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Is Wemby already a top 10 player? NBA early award predictions plus more! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode
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  number thirty four. Are the so called sports analyst, Josh, how you
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  doing? You know, I'm coming off a high. I'm coming off a
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  really big high. Chiefs won the Super Bowl, but we're transitioning ladies and
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  gentlemen transitioning to the NBA. My team's not doing as hot in this one.
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  They're last in the West. But even when I'm losing, I'm winning.
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  We have the greatest prospect in the history of sports on my team and
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  he's living up to the hype, Victor wimbin Yama. So let's just jump
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  Flying Garcia one hundred and Underscore Alfonso zero three. But alright, alright,
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  let's going and get right into it. And which we're gonna start off first
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  with because back in October, before the NBA season started, we had some
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  predictions as far as how the standards would be. And since we're kind of
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  out the middle of the point all All Star Break is happening right now,
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  we're we're gonna compare from last or from the last time we said anything about
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  it. So Josh, just give a quick rundown of who was your or
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  what was your prediction for the East and West? Okay, for the are
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  we gonna do just the top eight or through the top ten? Let's go
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  to do this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. I had
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  the Celtics and first, Bucks and second, Sixers and six Ers, third,
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  Caves, fourth, Heat, fifth, Nick, sixth, Nets,
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  seventh, and the Pacers eighth for the East. And then for the West,
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  I had first, Nugget, second, Sons, third, the Lakers,
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  fourth, the Warriors, fifth, the Clippers sixth, the Kings seventh,
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  Timberwolves in eighth, the Thunder And that was so for real. And
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  then so for my East, II had Bucks, Celtics, Cavs, Sixers,
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  Heat, Nicks, Hawks, and Nets. And for the West,
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  I had Nuggets, Sons, Lakers, Kings. Forgive me for this when
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  I had the Grizzlies as a fifth seed, the MAVs, Warriors, and
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  then Clippers. But compared to now Okay, I'll let you do the West
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  because I already know your team's in the Western Conference and my team's in the
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  Eastern Conference. So uh, the Western Conference standing it looks like the Timberwolves.
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  They're thirty nine to sixteen, Oka See thirty seven, seventeen, Clips
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  thirty six and seventeen, Nuggets thirty six and nineteen. Out of those top
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  four teams right there, which one are you most surprised about? Okay,
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  So I'm gonna put that in a two parter right there, because I'm surprised
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  that both the timber Wolves and the Thunder are so high up on this list.
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  But the thing is that makes them so good is both these teams are
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  two of the best, two of the top five teams defensively in the entire
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  NBA. They don't let people score points and all they do is put up
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  points against people led by Shay and Anthony Edwards, and so those two are
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  definitely the most surprising for me in the Western Conference just because the youngness of
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  the team. I get the Okay, the Thunder are the second youngest team
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  in the NBA behind the spur so that's really more surprising. But as far
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  as the two Wolves. I don't think anyone expected them to be number one
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  in the West at this point in it, at to this point at the
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  beginning of the season, because sure they had and they had, they have
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  kat Rudy Gobert, they have some good weapons around them. But I just
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  think it was more of like, can these guys. Can these guys win
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  on a more consistent basis? Because I even had them at my seventh spot,
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  I was expecting them to be around this. I didn't expect them to
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  be the first seed in the in the Western Conference and second overall in the
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  NBA. So both these teams have surprised a whole lot. Especially and then
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  let's look at the thunder. The thunder are coming with Jalen Williams and the
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  other Jalen Williams S, Yeah, Josh, we don't talk about him.
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  Then we have we have a Daddy women Yama's son, chet Holm Grin right
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  there, and then Daddy Wimby, you know, so chet Holme grins his
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  son. He's on this team, you know, And they're all playing good.
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  Both these teams don't allow points, and they score points. They win
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  by big and honestly, it's pretty cool to see because it kind of slipped
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  the narrative where we thought the Nuggets were gonna continue to be the main dominant
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  force in the Western Conference that they have been, but the lack of debt
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  that they kind of have going into this season is starting a show where the
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  depth is made up on the Timberwolves and and Thunder as a whole. And
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  the biggest thing that stands out for me right here is obviously you look at
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  the record, it's amazing from both of these teams, but as far as
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  their wins versus the conference, what really stands out for me is that the
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  Timberwolves are twenty seven and eight in the conference, which is just purely the
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  West, and they have a seven point three difference points per game difference,
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  So they're not just beating these teams, they're blowing these teams out. And
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  then you already mentioned it with Oka, see what they're doing, and they're
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  one of the youngest teams. It's like what the Sacramento Kings were last year,
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  but an even better version because you have Shay Gilgis Alexander, which we'll
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  get into as far as MVP talk later, but he's emerged himself as clearly
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  a top ten player in the league. But as far as this Clippers and
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  Nuggets team, right here, the Nuggets we kind of kind of expected.
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  With the Clippers obviously those big changes that happen in the middle of the season,
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  as far as with James Harden being traded. So at first they started
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  off I believe it was oh and five they started off, and now they've
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  been one of the best teams since January first, they've been seventeen and five,
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  which is the second best. So are you buying into this Clippers team?
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  I know we always say the Clippers they have all the talent. They
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  have PG Kawhi Leonard, they have Tyron Nu, they have all the pieces
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  everything around them. But do you think this is finally the year where it
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  looks realistic. I mean we say this every year if it looks realistic going
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  back to the Lob City. So with Blake griff and Chris Paul, DeAndre
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  Jordan, Jamal Crawford and the boys. You know that even back to those
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  teams, we've thought the Clippers were gonna win year in and year out,
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  and and we want to make the comparison, sorry to harp on your team,
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  they're the Dallas Cowboys. Basically of the NBA. They have all the
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  high going into this season, they don't and they once they get to the
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  playoff time, they don't live up to expectations. And then I'm not ready
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  to say that with the Clippers, are they ready because with this team,
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  they're still led by and Paul George to the most injury prone players in the
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  NBA. Paul George on a less likely basis, but Kawhi Kawhi messes a
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  lot of time. And and then the thing is, they can't have Russell
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  Westbrook and James Harden on the court at the exact same time, So if
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  one of those guys goes down, there's a likely chance that these guys are
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  gonna be on the court at the exact same time. I'm not gonna sit
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  here and say that they don't have what it takes to win, because are
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  we really gonna sit here and say Kawhi Leonard led team doesn't have what it
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  takes to win. They do? They have all, they have all they
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  need to win. Really, they probably the most set up of any team
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  in the entire NBA to win a championship with the experience that they have.
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  But with that being said, can they get the job done. I'm not
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  ready to hear say they can, because a year and year out, we're
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  just disappointed over and over again. Yeah, so, like you said,
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  but first off, we're done with the NFL. I don't appreciate you taking
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  a shot of my team there that that kind of stung a little. But
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  I think the biggest thing right here, the piece that holds everything together for
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  the Clippers, is Russell Westbrook coming off the bench. And obviously health is
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  a main concern, and you can't say, well, if healthy, No,
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  there's gonna be some injuries on this team, whether it happens within this
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  week, within the playoffs or whatever. But as of right now, it
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  looks like they can win a championship. It does. And with the Nuggets,
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  I'm not necessarily concerned. I don't know about you, because they're still
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  thirty six and nineteen. If it was, it's not like they're down like
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  ten games. They're only down three games to the Timberwolves. So let's go
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  ahead and get into these next four teams right here, which it's the fifth
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  seed Phoenix Suns. They're thirty three and twenty two. Six seed Pelicans thirty
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  three and twenty two as well, the seventh seed MAVs thirty two and twenty
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  three, and then the Kings are thirty one and twenty three. So out
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  of those four teams right there, which one surprised you the most that they're
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  there as far as you didn't expect them there, or they're lower than you
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  expected. I'm gonna say I really didn't. Okay, I'm gonna go with
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  two. I'm gonna go harp on two teams in this situation. I thought
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  the Kings and Pelicans, I think they're probably in a correct spot they should
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  be. I don't think I think you could either have them either. Those
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  teams in many people's rankings to start this season from six all the way to
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  to the Tennessee people had those two teams for sure and there locked in.
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  But as for me, the MAVs were iffy going into the season. The
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  MAVs, I thought they have Luca. Everyone knows they have Luca. And
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  then the question is is Kyrie gonna be available? Was Kyrie gonna be the
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  same Kyrie he usually is? And so far this season when he's on the
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  court, he's been nothing short of a ball the Kyrie irving that we're used
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  to seeing, but then also some of the moves that they have made that
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  with bringing in Daniel Gafford to sir up the rebounding and all that, it's
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  really helped them out over the last couple of weeks. Over the last week,
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  you can see the difference in the game, in the game plan.
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  And then to pick up Derek Lively, I think Derek Lively being drafted to
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  this team has helped them tremendously defensively and on the boards. And he's a
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  good he's a he's an okay scorer, like I'm not gonna sit here.
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  He's not like in the higher level of rookies as a score, but he
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  can get his own when he needs to sometimes down low. And that's the
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  maps are kind of surprising to be up here for me because I Loki didn't
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  have really high hopes for them going into this season, because there was a
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  lot of a lot of speculation whether Luca wants to be there or not,
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  and there still is because they still might fall apart. They still might they
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  still might come up short in the playoffs, and he just might think like,
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  is this team ever gonna get me to the place I want to get
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  to? Being arguably the best player in the NBA. But to me as
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  a whole, this team has surprised me quite a quite quite a bit.
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  But if we're gonna go on the Phoenix Suns, I had my doubts with
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  the Phoenix Suns. I only put them number two in my rankings to start
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  the season because they're out of respect for the name such as Devin Booker and
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  Kevin Durant. But this team you can see in some games where they lack
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  the depth to keep up with some of the teams, and defensively, losing
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  DeAndre Aams didn't seem like a big deal. But to me, DeAndre and
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  Can rebounds at a high rate, one of the best in the NBA at
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  rebounding, and he's he's kind of he's okay in the interior better. I
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  think he's better than Joseph Nurkic in the interior defending wise and so and then
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  going to the bench, they're playing with a whole bunch of Grayson Allen.
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  Good player, but he's not your sixth man. He's not gonna be your
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  sixth man on a winning NBA championship team. He's a good depth piece,
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  but I think that's where this team falters and why they're not at number two
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  where I had them, and they're sitting here at fifth, but they're still
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  in fifth place with Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Bill. But
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  much like the Los Angeles Clippers, health is gonna be a big part into
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  what gets this team moving because we have to start to see the big three
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  for this team. Bradley Bill, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker did not play
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  for like almost the first twenty games together. And then they came together,
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  and one goes out again, and then one comes back in, then one
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  gets out, and there's two of them, there's only one of them.
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  It's just a roller coaster for this team. It's just a matter of these
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  players having big knights game in and game out to hold this team, hold
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  this team accountable and within these standings. You know what, the Phoenix Suns,
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  they kind of remind me of They remind me of the Brooklyn Nets the
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  next year. As far as when James Hard and Kyrie and Kadi, they
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  were all technically together for a year, but when one person would come in,
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  like you said, another person would go out. So they're not really
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  able to gel together, and I think this team if we take out health,
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  which were not, but they would be the scariest team just because of
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  those three players right there, because they could score a bucket on anybody.
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  But it's just at some point they just got a play together. They got
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  to play together, and if they don't, they could be a first round
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  exit right here, because as of right now, you'd be playing the Nuggets,
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  and we already know what the Nuggets they bring to the table. But
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  as far as a team that I'm very surprised with is the Pelicans. So
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  I had the Pelicans. I know, we didn't list our ten seat.
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  I had the Pelicans ten, but I didn't expect Zion Williamson and the crew.
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  We already knew as far as the several years ago when they made when
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  Zion was wasn't playing in the playoffs. We're like, oh, this is
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  a young team. They're gonna be next up and come team. And then
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  they kind of flop last year, so you didn't know what to expect.
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  So it's just good to see that they're kind of living up to their potential.
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  But again, there's a whole Zion Bush Zion william Williamson issue. Can
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  you stay healthy. I feel like that's the biggest thing in the West compared
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  to the East, is there's a bunch of health factors that you kind of
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  don't know what's gonna happen, and it could shift the whole playing field.
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  And the MAVs and Kings, I feel like these two teams are very similar
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  as far as score a bunch of points with their great guards and just pray
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  for the best. Obviously, the MAVs have the better of the two and
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  have the better ceiling, but that's all. It isn't really in my opinion,
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  And I'm gonna go and enlist as nine to ten team the Lakers and
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  the Warriors. We both had these teams pretty high up there. So the
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  Lakers are thirty and twenty six, the Warriors are twenty seven and twenty six.
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  Out of these two teams right here, who do you think is more
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  likely to jump up in the standings? H I'm gonna have to go with
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  the Lakers only because Lebron and the ad factor Lebron I get. Curry is
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  on the other side. But this isn't the same Warriors, Tam he's used
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  to playing with. He's really playing hero ball game in and game out with
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  this team because Draymond Green, we never know what's gonna happen when Draymon Green.
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  No one knows what's gonna happen when Draymond Green. Klay Thompson's talking about
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  being the next Monogenoble and going to the bench like because but the thing is,
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  Monu can create his own shot. Can you create your own shot?
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  He's just not the same player he used to be, you know. So
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  he's just catch and shoot and his defense is faltered a lot because one of
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  the biggest harps on Klay Thompson, which made him so elite in the NBA.
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  Sure, he was the best spot up shooter in the NBA. Catch
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  and shoot. Eleven dribbles and sixty points. Just that's that's all. You
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  gotta know. How elite Clayton? Are you taking a shot at my teams?
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  Man? We talked about that. Man, I forgot about that,
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  But come on, like, eleven dribbles sixty points, that's how elite Klay
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  Thompson was. He's not that guy anymore. He's not the same defensive player
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  he used to be anymore. And then when they're also struggling with the John
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  then Kamie doesn't know if he wants to play for this team or doesn't want
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  to play for this team. So there's a lot of static in the air
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  with the Golden State Warriors, which is why I it's hard for me to
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  see them moving forward. And it kind of sucks because Stephen Curry's playing some
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  of the best ball he's played in his career and in going into whatever year
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  he's going deep into his career, you know. But as far as the
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  Lakers, I feel like it sucks to see that they forgot the recipe that
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  you need to put around Lebron to make to have Lebron teams be successful.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it's literally three and D players. Just put three point
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  shooters around Lebron and Lebron's gonna facilitate, He's gonna bring in and they just
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  don't have that. They don't have a spot. Austin Reeves is playing really
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  ISO ball a lot of the times. And then D'Angelo Russell, I don't
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  know what he just after that Brooklyn Net season, his car and he got
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  traded away after that, confidence completely down. He's never been the same player
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  since then. And then as far as AD eight eights AD, it just
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  matter health wise. That's the biggest thing with the West. Hell it's sad
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  to say, but health for the West is literally the bread and butter for
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  all these teams of whether they're gonna make it far. Yeah, to the
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  playoffs and then Lebron. Lebron's doing Lebron things, But how much more can
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  Lebron do Lebron things before he's just like what, Yeah, thirty, I'm
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  gonna be thirty nine years old and I'm over here being Superman game in and
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  game out, holding my team in games. But they're the team out of
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  the two that I see that could rise up more in the rankings. And
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  that's also because they are in the thirty win a column. Yeah, they
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  could easily rise up, and I think they can. They having Lebron is
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  always the X factor. You're always gonna be in the basketball game. It's
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  just a matter can the surrounding pieces match the energy? Yeah. So both
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  of these teams, they've both been on fire as of recently, the Warriors
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  eight and two and the Lakers seven and three. I think the biggest thing
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  with the Lakers obviously if they're healthy, but it's just the role players.
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  Can they do just enough you need. So the best way I could put
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  it is, so the Lakers. The Lakers when they won the championship in
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  the Bubble, they obviously had Lebron and Ad, but they always had one
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  player stepping up at least every other game. A Kyle Kuzma, Alex caruz
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  Soo, a Dwight Howard that was given a random twenty points per game.
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  And that's sometimes what you need. Austin Reeves he's been inconsistent, D'Angelo Russell's
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  been inconsistent. So you just need somebody to just be consistent enough to step
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  up where all the load it's not a pause on Lebron James over Anthony Davis.
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  So but as far as with this Warriors right here, honestly, I'm
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  I think the Warriors have the best chance of rising up because Okay, I
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  really like the way that because ever since Draymond Green he got suspended, Jonathan
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  Kaminga, he's become one of the main reasons this Warriors offense has taken off.
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  And Steph Curry has done even better if you if you look at it
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  because Johnathin Kaminga, he's actually become their second option since Klay Thompson he's moved
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  to the bench and he's been starting. He's been starting now in place of
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  Klay Thompson and brings that young athletic defender. So I think, especially with
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  the way that I know I can trust Steve Kerr as far as Darvin Haam,
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  I'm not exactly sure what I could get from him game in and game
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  out. So I'm gonna have to say the Warriors here, And I know
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  you said the Lakers are in the thirty win column, but or but the
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  Warriors only three games back, and they're only six games back from the five
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  seeds, so I feel like they could really make some noise and I think
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  they are gonna make some noise here. But all right, let's go ahead
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  and get into the Eastern Conference right here, And which y'all list the first?
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  For the Celtics, they're forty three and twelve. The two seeded Calves
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  are a thirty six and seventeen, the Bucks are thirty five and twenty one,
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  and the four seed of New York Knicks are thirty three and twenty two.
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  So this is kind of expected right here. But out of these top
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  four teams, which one is more likely to make it to the NBA Finals
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  because we knew these teams would be here. But which one out of these
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  four will make the finals? M I'm gonna go. I'm gonna have to
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  go with the Celtics. I think it's just a given. You know,
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  Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown have the experience, along with Derek White, who's
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  playing magnificent this season. Not the same Derek White that played for the Spurs
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  who I hated, But this is a new Derek White that's playing playing great
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  basketball. And then they had and then they just continue to improve year in
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  and year out. But the thing is, I can see them getting there,
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  but do I see them winning. I do not see the Celtics ever
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  winning a championship. I just don't ever. I just they just don't give
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  me that feeling that they're championship winning team. They can get to the dance,
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  but can they complete the dance? I don't. I don't think so.
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  And then the thing is with the Bucks just they don't. They're just
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  they have Damian Lillard, but they're not striking fear into me, like like
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  how I feel like they used to with Drew Holiday. In my opinion,
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  they were such a defensively stout team with Drew Holiday. It was almost like
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  you got to you gotta fight for every point you're gonna get against this Bucks
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  team. But right now they're one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA
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  outside of Giannis and brook Lopez. When they're off the court, it goes
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  downhill from there. And then so yeah, I see the Celtics having the
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  biggest chance to make it see the championship based off the top four teams.
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  So the Celtics, I know, they have all the stats, they have
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  everything there. They're thirty and six against the conference, they're they're twenty six
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  and three at home. They have they have everything right in their hands.
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  But I don't think that they will get it done because if I don't trust
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  Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. They have the talent, but I just don't
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  trust them. I don't at all. I don't and I think honestly not
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  necessarily the Bucks, because like you were saying, I agree with you on
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  that premise as far as I didn't think it would be that big of a
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  drop off between or defensively between Drew Holliday and Dame, but it has been.
• 22:25
  And Grayson Allen that was kind of a big piece right there because that
• 22:29
  was one of your perimeter defenders right there. But honestly, I think it's
• 22:33
  either gonna be the Calves or nixt year. I really, I really do
• 22:36
  think that the Calves. So it's I want to go with the Knicks or
• 22:44
  you know what, No, I'm gonna go with the Knicks. I'm gonna
• 22:45
  go ahead and say this right now as far as what the pieces they have
• 22:49
  made. They got Bogdanovich, they got og Ananobi, they got Alec Burks,
• 22:55
  they got they actually have wing defenders around Jalen Brunson, and I felt
• 23:00
  like that's what was missing last year when you played the Miami Heat in the
• 23:03
  playoffs, or now when you're gonna play the Celtics in the playoffs. You
• 23:07
  need somebody to guard Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, Jimmy Butler, and Jalen
• 23:12
  Brunson. First off, he should have been an All Star starter over Damian
• 23:18
  Lillard, but I'm not gonna get into that. But Jalen Brunson, he's
• 23:22
  just playing an absolutely different level right now, and there's just all the pieces
• 23:26
  there. And we talked about this earlier on the pod or not on the
• 23:29
  pod in text Tom Thibodeau's he's a championship winning coach. He is everywhere he
• 23:36
  goes and no matter what, you're gonna get consistency. Harden knows defense and
• 23:41
  when you have to get a bucket, there's gonna be a bucket there.
• 23:45
  So the reason why I trust him over the Cavs is because Donovan Mitchell and
• 23:52
  Darius Garland, I don't know if I could trust that backcourt defensively wise,
• 23:56
  and there could be a lot of buckets out on that. I know.
• 24:00
  They're eighteen and three since January and they have the best, one of the
• 24:04
  best, I think it's top three defensive rating. You have Jared Allen,
• 24:08
  you have Evan Mobley, but kind of like the Celtics, it's like a
• 24:15
  lesser version. I have to see it to believe it. But as far
• 24:21
  as with these five to eight range teams, you have the Sixers who are
• 24:25
  thirty two and twenty two, the Pacers or the sixty Pacers who are thirty
• 24:29
  one and twenty five, the seven seed Heat or A thirty and twenty five,
• 24:33
  and the eight seed in Magic who are thirty and twenty five as well.
• 24:36
  So out of these eight teams, right here, kind of like the
• 24:40
  same question I had with you earlier. So are you surprised any of these
• 24:44
  teams here for a good or bad reason? Uh? I think we're gonna
• 24:48
  get the first one off the bat. That's the Orlando Magic who probably were
• 24:52
  the most surprised with me and you both, I think anyone, yeah,
• 24:55
  because based off what they came off from last year. But the mergers of
• 25:00
  pal Bnchero as a player as a whole has been pretty significant. He's using
• 25:03
  his size at at the position that he plays to stop frowns. Will stop?
• 25:08
  Bro, I didn't do that? Uh, Bro. I can't wait
• 25:15
  till we get the face cam on here. Bro. They're gonna see what
• 25:18
  you do on a on a podcast basis, No, no, no,
• 25:23
  no no. But with Franz Wagner, Wagner, all them like they're emerging
• 25:30
  as a good young team in the NBA. Are they gonna make noise in
• 25:33
  the playoffs? I doubt it, But this is this year should build confidence
• 25:38
  going into the next season, and I think this is this that's a good
• 25:41
  testament to what they have been able to do. They have one every recently
• 25:48
  two when they played My Spurs the last two times in the last two three
• 25:51
  weeks. Two or three weeks. I always thought like easy dubs, easy
• 25:55
  dubs, But no, they've just blown us out the building both of the
• 25:57
  both of the games that we played against them. Because I'm still thinking of
• 26:00
  this is the same old Magic team. This isn't the same old Magic team.
• 26:03
  They are building something good there and it's pretty cool to see. But
• 26:07
  as far as these other ones who I'm the most, I guess we can't
• 26:11
  say we're most surprised about the seventy six years based off circumstance. I mean
• 26:14
  Joel Ebid, Yeah, been half the season if he was If he was
• 26:18
  in there, I think they would be where the Knicks are at the Knicks
• 26:22
  or Bucks are at. Moving the team is spot down, but they're still
• 26:26
  playing great despite him being gone, especially Tyres Maxley. He stepped up in
• 26:30
  a big way this year as a leader of this team. But yeah,
• 26:37
  I think that those two right there, we can harp on as the most
• 26:38
  surprising. With Tyre's Halliburton from the Pacers. He's been nothing short of spectacular
• 26:42
  this season, especially with passing and three point percentage. Wise, dude is
• 26:48
  averaging almost thirteen. I think he's how much is Tyres however, almost thirteen
• 26:52
  a game. Thirteen Yeah, it's almost thirteen in the game. Yeah.
• 26:55
  Yeah, that is insane work right there. And he's leading this team and
• 26:59
  he just looks. They can shoot threes like crazy, and they can pass
• 27:04
  the ball around. So that's that's the biggest recipe for the Pacers to winning
• 27:10
  basketball games. I just think those three teams, it's just the East is
• 27:15
  pretty cool to watch this year. That's all I'm gonna say. Like the
• 27:17
  Heat, the Heat. I don't know, people expect them to be the
• 27:18
  Heat, the seventh seed, but they're but there's they're gonna be in the
• 27:22
  playoffs no matter what. I think. The Heat, we kind of know,
• 27:26
  like compared to the West, we kind of know what we're gonna get
• 27:30
  from the East every single year. In the Heat, they're gonna be that
• 27:33
  team that doesn't care throughout the regular season, and then when it comes to
• 27:37
  playoff time, whoever they play in the first round, they're gonna end up
• 27:41
  giving them a scare and potentially make it into the damn NBA Finals. I
• 27:45
  don't care where they at right now, how how bad they're playing, or
• 27:49
  if Jimmy Butler he doesn't look like how he did last year in the playoffs.
• 27:53
  They're gonna flip the switch. They're one of the only team in the
• 27:56
  league where I know, come playoff time, they're gonna flip the switch.
• 28:03
  And I honestly believe that the Sixers this would have been the best chance for
• 28:07
  him this year as far as for them to reach the NBA Finals. Let
• 28:11
  let alone get out of the second round. If you want to say any
• 28:14
  teams the Cowboys, this is the seventy six Ers right here, except we
• 28:17
  don't have in we don't have injury problems. So Joel Embiid, he's gonna
• 28:23
  come back. I think it's late March, so right before the playoffs.
• 28:27
  Do you think that's that's enough time for him to get his legs underneath him,
• 28:33
  or do you think it's gonna be a situation kind of like last year
• 28:36
  where he kind of looks hobbled and he doesn't look like the same guy,
• 28:38
  because as of right now, they would be playing the knick. I think
• 28:45
  I think, honestly, if they keep up this pace of winning and he's
• 28:51
  able to get his legs back back underneath him, this isn't the same Joel
• 28:55
  Embiid. We've seen the last couple of years. You see me that stat.
• 28:59
  You told me that stat before where he played the Spurs. Literally you
• 29:03
  were like, he's more likely to score forty points than he is thirty.
• 29:07
  And dude just dropped, yeah under thirty points. Yeah yeah, So this
• 29:12
  isn't the same Joel Embiid that we're used to seeing. I'm sure, sure
• 29:17
  he's always been a dominant score but this is a different Joel Embiid. He
• 29:21
  looked like he was on a mission to start this season to prove something,
• 29:23
  and it just sucks because injuries catch up to him. I don't know what
• 29:27
  it is, but if he's able to stay healthy throughout the playoffs, this
• 29:30
  team is going to be very scary to play against, especially if he's playing
• 29:34
  at that level. Yeah, no doubt about it. And then, like
• 29:40
  we did with the West, we have the nine seeded Chicago Bulls and the
• 29:44
  ten seeded Atlanta Hawks. Oh wait, yeah, Atlanta Hawks. That just
• 29:48
  sounded weird. I was thinking football. Okay, I'm trying to transition to
• 29:52
  the NBA. But the Bulls are twenty six and twenty nine and the Hawks
• 29:56
  are twenty four and thirty one. These two teams right here which one can
• 30:02
  rise up the most. Give me Kobe White, Baby, Give me Kobe
• 30:07
  White Baby. He's gonna lead the Bulls to the playoffs. Trust Trust.
• 30:12
  I don't know. He's on my fantasy team as fonto's favorite player right now,
• 30:17
  you know. So we're big Kobe White believers in this, big Kobe
• 30:21
  White believers in the in the podcast right now. So yeah, I'm gonna
• 30:26
  go with them. I don't know, there's not really there's not really much
• 30:30
  the harp on. There's nothing else but Kobe White to be excited about.
• 30:33
  For the Bulls, I feel like, but you might get rid of zach
• 30:37
  Lavine, you might not at the end of the off season. But as
• 30:41
  far as the Hawks, I hope they keep losing so Trey Young Giante become
• 30:45
  available and they come to this one of them comes to the Spurs because those
• 30:48
  they are one of the there there. The Spurs are both top two favorites
• 30:52
  to land either one of them come off season time. So I hope they
• 30:55
  keep losing. So Hawks keep losing basketball games so we can get a point
• 30:59
  guard. Keep losing, and it's crazy for me because the Hawks they have
• 31:03
  the third or they score the third most points in the points in the league.
• 31:08
  They they score one hundred and twenty points in the league. It's just
• 31:12
  they suck defensively, That's what it is. But but yeah, I know
• 31:18
  as far as with the Bulls here, DeMar DeRozan, he's obviously going to
• 31:22
  be gone. Vooch, I don't know why we re signed him. And
• 31:25
  Zach Lavine he's gonna be gone. He was, He's injured for the rest
• 31:27
  of the year. It was ankle injury, if I know, a foot
• 31:32
  injury, a foot surgery, and he's out for the year. So honestly,
• 31:37
  the Bulls' I don't know where they're at. And yeah, but like
• 31:41
  I said, I think I made literally buy a Kobe White jersey. I'm
• 31:45
  dead serious about that because we just resigned him to like a four year There
• 31:49
  tim more about Kobe White when the yeah come around. Okay, dude's been
• 31:55
  crazy, he has. But but okay, before we get off of this
• 32:01
  topic, I know we'll get into it another time. Who's your finals matchup
• 32:07
  right now? I know we talked about your Eastern Conference, but who's your
• 32:10
  finals matchup right now? Well, my prediction at the beginning of the season
• 32:14
  was Nuggets versus Celtics Nuggets winning. But right now I'm gonna go craft for
• 32:22
  the East. I'm going Celtics East. I'm going Celtics for sure. Okay,
• 32:27
  but the West, I do not have an answer. I do not
• 32:30
  have an answer for a year. But I'm my most educated guests I will
• 32:35
  make I'm gonna go. No, I'm not giving chat championship fuck that I'm
• 32:40
  gonna I'm giving. I'm gonna do the Minnesota Timberwolves as my team coming out
• 32:45
  of the West, and because the defensively, this Minnesota Timberwolves team is one
• 32:52
  of the most elite that we've seen in quite a long time. And it's
• 32:57
  behind Rudy Gobert, who is going crazy. I get it. He's second
• 33:01
  in in defensive Player of the Year, which we'll get to in a moment
• 33:05
  in my opinion, but he's gonna win off circumstances. But he's leading the
• 33:10
  way defensively. And Anthony Edwards is a dog. Anthony Edwards night in night
• 33:15
  Out just plays hard. I saw this guy play in person in San Antonio.
• 33:22
  He rose ten feet what it felt like ten feet in the air,
• 33:24
  caught the ball, stayed there for three seconds, looked at Keldon Johnson and
• 33:29
  then dunked on him. That's what it felt like in the moment. That's
• 33:30
  what it felt like then. He So, I don't know behind this team
• 33:35
  just feels different. This Timberwolves team just feels different than what they used to
• 33:37
  be. Hy So, I have the Timberwolves versus Celtics, but give me
• 33:43
  the Minnesota Timberwolves winning the NBA championship at this point in time. So this
• 33:49
  sounds very This sounds very disgusting right here. The two teams that I'm about
• 33:53
  to say, I already know I said, Kingston Magic. Hell nah that
• 34:00
  Bulls Bulls and Warriors, Baby what he exit? Magic? That would be
• 34:06
  a really disgusted matchup now. But let's be serious here. I really think
• 34:14
  as of right now, it would be the New York Knicks and the Los
• 34:16
  Angeles Clippers. And I trust more than clip Yes, I know, I
• 34:22
  know, I don't any more rings. I hate Kawhi. I hope you're
• 34:27
  still salty yes to this day, but I need to meet coming in from
• 34:30
  to this die. Yeah, but I hope Jaylen Brunson would win that one.
• 34:37
  Yeah. I'm not gonna give no prediction as far as winner yet,
• 34:40
  but I'm just saying those two. But all right, let's go in and
• 34:45
  get into this next topic right here, which like we did with our standards,
• 34:50
  we had predictions beforehand. We had our award predictions beforehand, and we'll
• 34:53
  see how how they're at the moment. So as far as with m v
• 34:58
  p UH, before the season, I had Jason Tatum. Who did you
• 35:02
  have before the season? I had the joker, Nikola Jokic. So,
• 35:07
  all right, who's number one on your ballot right now, Shah Shay Gilgis.
• 35:15
  Alexander is my MVP at this very moment in time. He's on the
• 35:20
  second youngest team in the NBA, leading the way while averaging thirty one point
• 35:25
  one points per game, which is number two in the entire NBA, six
• 35:30
  and a half assists, which is thirteenth in the NBA, and two point
• 35:32
  two stills per game, which is first in the entire NBA. I kind
• 35:37
  of feel like me and Fonso were some of the first people to be putting
• 35:42
  Alexander to the point where we both had him number ten, I think in
• 35:45
  our rankings going into the season. Yeah, I had them, And well,
• 35:51
  right now he's jumping up to the best player in the NBA. Right
• 35:53
  now, this season, I think he has been I think you can argue
• 35:57
  Joki Jokic has had a great season. You can argue Roll and Be probably
• 36:00
  would have been my MVP if he stayed healthy. But he's just not healthy.
• 36:04
  He's not even gonna be eligible for the award, which is something we'll
• 36:07
  probably talk about after we finish, get finished with this award, like who
• 36:10
  he think is gonna win. But as far as that, Shay is leading
• 36:15
  this team, the second youngest team, like I said, to the second
• 36:20
  best record in the West, third overall, he's good defensively, good offensive.
• 36:25
  He's just the MVP of the league right now. And there's you can
• 36:30
  make other arguments, but he's mine at this very moment. So as of
• 36:35
  right now, I'd have him as two in my ballot. So number one
• 36:38
  I have to have Nikola Jokic. Honestly, I think he should have won
• 36:43
  it last last year. And it's it's hard to go against a twenty six
• 36:46
  point one points per game, twelve rebounds, eight point nine assists, almost
• 36:50
  a triple double, fifty eight percent from the field, he's shooting thirty six
• 36:54
  percent from three. He has almost a block of game one point two stalls
• 37:00
  and only two point nine turnovers when being top fifteen in usage in the league.
• 37:05
  So it seems like just because the timber Wolves and the Thunder there ahead
• 37:08
  of them, it's like, oh, well, the Nuggets, they took
• 37:10
  a step back. They still won thirty six games already this year, and
• 37:15
  there's no reason to believe that that this team isn't doing this well because Nicola
• 37:21
  Jokichi is the entire engine for this offense and this team in general, and
• 37:24
  that's why he's number one. So I'm pretty sure you had Jokic number two,
• 37:30
  right if I'm if I'm correct, So who's So who's your number three?
• 37:37
  Right here? Who's number three in your ballot? Victor Wibinyama? Is
• 37:39
  that even a question here? Just kidding. I'm gonna go with Ah.
• 37:46
  People could say Giannis. I can see the argument, but I'm gonna go
• 37:50
  with Luka Doncics. Bro Luka Doncs iving thirty four points per game on eight
• 37:54
  point eight rebounds and nine point five assists per game. That is almost better.
• 38:00
  That is way better than what Yoka is averaging. The thing is,
• 38:02
  the records aren't matching up. The records are a big play reason why people
• 38:07
  win MVPs in the NBA. But if Luca was maybe the second, the
• 38:10
  third seed, fourth seeds, this team would be he would be the He
• 38:14
  would be the runaway MVP right now. And I don't know, honestly,
• 38:19
  I might be convincing myself he might be the MVP, but I know how
• 38:21
  awards work in the NBA. Yeah, he's third for me right now.
• 38:24
  But averaging thirty four points per game on eight almost nine rebounds and almost ten
• 38:30
  assist you, you're on another planet, dude, You're probably the your top
• 38:35
  two player in the world. And that's what Luka Doncins is. Yeah,
• 38:38
  it's what Luca And he scored seventy three this year, so yeah, yeah,
• 38:45
  you're right. What Luca does, it's it's just crazy. And again,
• 38:51
  as far as the whole MVP conversation, is it best player in the
• 38:54
  league or it's best player on the best team, and that's where the voters
• 39:00
  they it's kind of confused, confusing. The last one that we had was
• 39:04
  Russell Westbrook and he was a four seed. So maybe Luca he could get
• 39:08
  up to the four seed. There's still plenty of time left, but I
• 39:13
  really don't see that happening. With the West being so crowded. But I
• 39:17
  know he already talks about Luca here, but so I still have third on
• 39:22
  my ballot. I have Juwelnbid there. I just feel like, I just
• 39:25
  feel like the he was at a historic he was at a historic pace.
• 39:30
  He was averaging and he was just up there with Luca. I think he
• 39:32
  was no. He was averaging thirty five points per game, and it just
• 39:37
  really sucks to see. And as far as the sixty five game marker that
• 39:43
  you have to reach in order to win MVP, I think the only one
• 39:47
  who was injured half the season one MVP was Bill Walton in seventy eight or
• 39:52
  seventy nine if I was if I'm correct. So do you think if historic
• 39:58
  times? We're not going to get into that debate. We're not going to
• 40:02
  get into that debate here. But all right, let's go in and go
• 40:07
  into defensive player of the year. So who'd you have before season. I
• 40:10
  don't want to get into player of the year. I don't want to you
• 40:14
  go first, you go first, all right? So for my defensive player
• 40:21
  of the year before the year, it was Anthony Davis, which when he
• 40:22
  plays he's up there. But that's obviously not how it works. You have
• 40:27
  to play a certain amount of games. But number one right now on my
• 40:30
  ballot who, Josh, he's not gonna want to agree with, but it's
• 40:35
  Rudy Gobert on the best defensive team in the league as far as defensive field
• 40:39
  goal makes, defensive field goal attempts, field goal percentage, and the difference
• 40:45
  was when he's on the floor, it's just significant. They average. So
• 40:51
  whoever plays the temper Wolves, if Rudy Gobert is not on the floor,
• 40:53
  they get four point six more points per possession, which that's ridiculous. You
• 41:00
  could only score three points per possession at most maybe you would get a four
• 41:04
  point play. So that's how much he means to the Timberwolves. And as
• 41:10
  far as what they've been doing this year and how he said they can make
• 41:14
  that finals run is because what Rudy Gobert he's been doing defensively because and he's
• 41:20
  not needed offense offensively, so he could just focus in on the defense and
• 41:23
  that's exactly what he does. And he still averages two blocks a game.
• 41:29
  So, Josh, who's one in your ballot right now? It's gonna be
• 41:35
  Rudy Gobert for all the same reasons you said, I'm not whatever, dude.
• 41:39
  Oh who I had to pick up the season was Jaron Jackson Junior.
• 41:44
  But we all know that was just a pick that I had to make because
• 41:46
  I couldn't pick this guy twice again. But I'm picking him this time to
• 41:51
  pick your women. Yama is a defensive Player of the Year. He let
• 41:54
  me tell you right now, let me tell you you watch basketball, Turn
• 41:59
  on the games, watch a Womby game, and watch a go Beart game,
• 42:02
  and tell me who's better defensively. Just put it and watch it.
• 42:06
  Watch them play each other. Put the games on. When they're playing each
• 42:08
  other, watch who's better defensively. It's fucking It's fucking women Yama and Victor
• 42:14
  Women. Yama defensive Player of the Year. He's leading the NBA in blocks
• 42:16
  per game at three point two as a rookie. As a rookie, he's
• 42:21
  doing this and if he wasn't on the most trash defensive team in almost NBA
• 42:23
  history, he would probably be number one. If they had maybe the third
• 42:29
  worst defensive team in NBA history, he would probably be the defensive Player of
• 42:34
  the Year. You know, because when he's on the court, I think
• 42:37
  I think our defensive rating is one hundred and five point five. When he's
• 42:40
  off the court, it like jumps to like one hundred and forty three point
• 42:45
  seven. Dude, you're telling me he's not defensive player of the year.
• 42:47
  And when he's on the court, teams take seven point four percent less shots
• 42:52
  at the rim. And I think he's allowed the least amount of points when
• 42:53
  guard when as the primary defender, as the primary defender victor woman youngman as
• 43:00
  a rookie, and he's leading the NBA in stocks, which is steels plus
• 43:04
  blocks per game at like four point three or something like that. He is
• 43:07
  the defensive player of the year as a rookie at nineteen twenty years old,
• 43:12
  and he should be the defensive player of the Year this year. But it's
• 43:15
  not gonna happen that way based off record, and because because guys named named
• 43:21
  Trey Jones, Devin Vaselle, Jeremy Sohan, Zach Collins, Keldon Johnson,
• 43:28
  a City Sissoku, Cheddy Osman, Blake, now break Blake. Wesley's pretty
• 43:34
  nice defensively, so he'll get excluded. But all these guys, who am
• 43:38
  I missing right now? Who am I missing some other Do you think I'm
• 43:43
  I know my team guys, don't freaking harp on me. I miss one
• 43:46
  guy. Now I'm freaking not thinking, you know, because I'm angry.
• 43:49
  Oh, Julian Champagne. Just because these guys can't play defensive defense does not
• 43:54
  fall on Wimby. Wimby should be defensive players. Oh shoot, you got
• 44:05
  too excited there. You broke off your mind, man, All right,
• 44:07
  yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I'm back. I'm back, Okay,
• 44:10
  base of all not. He should not be losing because of those guys.
• 44:15
  And he's third as a rookie in defensive player odds, and he should
• 44:19
  really be number one, Okay, And he's had I believe eight games was
• 44:22
  seven plus blocks. I don't want to hear nothing about that. I don't
• 44:25
  want to hear nothing about anyone. And he had a triple double wind blocks
• 44:29
  this season. Yeah, so I don't even want to hear it. He's
• 44:31
  the best defensive player in the NBA and he should be number one. But
• 44:35
  Rudy Gobert is gonna win because he's on the number one team in the Western
• 44:38
  Conference. So honestly, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie that case was
• 44:44
  pretty a pillar, and so I put him number two. No, no,
• 44:49
  so I put him number two. I had Wimby at three at first,
• 44:52
  but so so number three I have right here. I think you'll agree
• 44:58
  with. It's Jared. It has to be Jared Allen. Jared Allen.
• 45:01
  He's a lesser version of Rudy Gobert as far as all the defensive stats,
• 45:07
  defensive radiant. But the thing that holds him back is Evan Mobley being on
• 45:12
  the exact same team and him being almost just as good defensively and almost winning
• 45:16
  defense with the player Defensive Player of the Year last year. But I don't
• 45:22
  think there's really nothing else to talk about it as far as from here at
• 45:27
  I think I said it all. I think Wimby next year he'll for sure
• 45:32
  be a clear cut favorite. It's just there. Has there ever been a
• 45:37
  rookie to ever win Defensive Player of the Year. That's a good thing to
• 45:40
  search up. I feel like it had to be like in the prehistoric times,
• 45:43
  like a white guy or something like it. I looking I'm looking it
• 45:47
  up right now. No rookie has ever won Defensive Player of the Year.
• 45:51
  No teenager has ever won Defensive Player of the year either Jared Jackson was the
• 45:54
  youngest person and he was twenty three years old, was in his fourth season.
• 46:00
  He's nowhere near as good as Wimby. Defensively, I don't even want
• 46:05
  to hear it, dude, So all right, let's in the guard positions
• 46:12
  one through five. I would like to see Rudy Gobert guard positions one through
• 46:15
  five. I would like to see him do it. I'll say this,
• 46:21
  if if Wimby and Rudy Gobert they switched places, Wimby he would be way
• 46:27
  better than what Ruby would be MVP right now, I'm putting it out there.
• 46:30
  Wimmy would be talking on MVP voting at the very at this very moment
• 46:34
  if he were to do that. Okay, okay, no, let's not
• 46:37
  get carried away here. But then I also wouldn't be high on Wimby if
• 46:39
  he wasn't on the Spurs. So also I would probably be like fuck women,
• 46:45
  Yama. But and we would have Scoot Henderson on our team, so
• 46:47
  I don't know. I don't know Scoot Henders we would have had we would
• 46:52
  have he would have been if we didn't have Wimby. That probably means the
• 46:55
  Timberwolves traded got the number one pick, and then we ended up with the
• 47:00
  number two pick. Yeah, so yeah, you would have been with Scoop.
• 47:04
  But all right, let's go to moving to most improved Player of the
• 47:07
  year. So who did you have before the season. I had mckel bridges,
• 47:12
  but the Nets decided to stop playing basketball this season and they fired Jack
• 47:16
  Vaughn literally two day. So yeah, so yeah, yeah, right now
• 47:22
  my most improved player, which we just talked about, mister afro Man himself,
• 47:28
  Kobe White, this Tar Hill. Okay, let's get into this.
• 47:32
  I'm probably gonna steal all your stats, but I'm doing it. I don't
• 47:35
  care. Okay, So last season he had twenty three minutes per game,
• 47:39
  nine point seven points, two point nine rebounds, and two point eight assists
• 47:45
  per game. This season, thirty six minutes per game, nineteen point six
• 47:50
  points, four point seven rebounds, and five point three and assists. This
• 47:52
  is big jumps in every statistical major category for a point guard that matters,
• 47:58
  and he's playing great basketball. He's always been a good three point shooter,
• 48:01
  but this season he just seems to be knocking him down at at a different
• 48:06
  level. And he's leading this Bulls team even when they even when it kind
• 48:09
  of feels like they're going into no man's land, at some point, Kobe
• 48:13
  White just comes through. Yeah. So as much as I want to put
• 48:19
  Kobe White number one, it's going to be Tyree Smax that ends up winning
• 48:23
  this because how he became an All Star averages twenty five point seven points per
• 48:29
  game, he has six point four assists, seven percent from three. That's
• 48:34
  just one of the best shooters in the league. And I'm gonna go and
• 48:37
  give it away Kobe White his number two. So from last year he went
• 48:43
  from or his jump, he's averaging ten points per game now almost two rebounds
• 48:49
  more, two and a half more assists, two percent up field goal percentage
• 48:52
  wise, and two and a half percent more as far as three point percentage.
• 48:55
  So he technically fits that criteria for most Improved Player. But I know
• 49:02
  it's gonna go to Tyree Smaxy. And you know what, I'm gonna go
• 49:06
  ahead and say, Kobe Whiteman wins Most Improved Player of the Year. I'm
• 49:10
  gonna get myself a jersey as a Bullskin. Why you need him to win
• 49:15
  it? Okay, it's because it's not like Wimby he's a star, so
• 49:22
  obviously you'll get you'll get that. We don't necessarily have a star wars Lavigne.
• 49:27
  Technically I wouldn't consider DeRozan a star. Hey, don't talk about Damorrow,
• 49:32
  don't talk about Jamarrow. Oh but but you hate Kawhi. That makes
• 49:37
  no Senserosen was only put into a circumstance to be on the Spurs because Kawhi
• 49:45
  was being a little bitch about everything and set out games so and he took
• 49:49
  he took my beloved Danny Green with him because he was crying all the time.
• 49:53
  And he left the Marcus alderge to Finn for himself as the number one
• 49:58
  option when we all the marks, or isn't a number one option? Okay,
• 50:01
  this is a whole totally off topic. We're going crazy off topic right
• 50:05
  now. But it's not Damar's fault. It's not Damar's fault. He was
• 50:07
  put into a tough situation. But if if anything, well, I don't
• 50:14
  know a lonzo. He doesn't stay healthy. Future Spur, Future Spur.
• 50:17
  What you're gonna get like ten games out of him? No, you're not
• 50:21
  gonna get play different with us. Yeah, he's gonna maybe maybe play like
• 50:28
  ten minutes a game. If you think Wimby, he's not getting enough minutes.
• 50:30
  But do you see what they give Lonzo as far as minutes wise.
• 50:34
  But all right, we're getting off topic here. As far as for the
• 50:38
  third in your ballot, as far as most improved player, who would it
• 50:43
  go to? Honestly, I didn't go that far after Kobe White because I
• 50:45
  only had one option and that was Kobe White. But most let me think,
• 50:51
  let me think off the top of the dome, right, well,
• 50:52
  do you want me to go ahead and do you want me to go ahead
• 50:54
  and save mine? Shay, it would be shake Gilders out. He's in
• 50:57
  here. It's most improved player. Nope, no, no, no,
• 51:01
  no, no no. I think it's Alprinson, goon from the Rockets.
• 51:06
  I'll never give Rockets players love, So you can just go off with whatever
• 51:08
  you want to talk about. Yeah. So so Alp well that's his nickname,
• 51:14
  Alp so six point four points per game more and then two more sists
• 51:19
  more and he went up as far as usage wise, and now he's the
• 51:23
  main offense for the Rockets, off or for the Rockets. I know that
• 51:28
  Jalen Green he's there. I know that I'm in Oh no, yeah,
• 51:32
  I always get between the get confused between the Thompson brothers Onstons. Yeah,
• 51:39
  so I know a'mn Thompson. He's there too, Fred van Fleet, they're
• 51:43
  there. But he controls that Rockets offense right there, and he's become a
• 51:47
  focal point and any other year he would win Most Improved Player of the Year.
• 51:52
  It's just the two guys in front of him. And so you know
• 51:59
  what, let's go ahead and get into this next one right here. As
• 52:02
  as far as for six Man of the Year, so for the year,
• 52:07
  I had Ammanual quickly. Who's now he's on the Raptors. He got traded.
• 52:10
  But who was your six year before the season, and who's number one
• 52:17
  for you right now? It was Cam Thomas, but the nets socide has
• 52:21
  stopped playing basketball and he it's to start the season. It looked like it
• 52:23
  was like probably one of the better choices that I made because he was going
• 52:28
  absolutely insane. And then Jack Vaughn got fired, so we're going through this
• 52:30
  whole thing again. So right now my six minute of the Year would probably
• 52:35
  be Honestly, I don't like any of these three guys. I really don't
• 52:38
  like him with Derek White, even though I hate Derek White, but I
• 52:44
  think I'm gonna have to go with Malik Monk. I think that's the way
• 52:45
  it's gonna go. He's averaging fifteen point one points per game off the bench
• 52:51
  almost he has five assists on twenty five minutes per game. He's played really
• 52:55
  well this season, especially any I've seen it. I've seen it a couple
• 53:00
  of times when they played this burds basically, especially him from the three point
• 53:02
  shot. He's improved quite a bit. And honestly, he's my six men
• 53:06
  of the year so far. So I have him one and then number two.
• 53:10
  We'll just give our top two. So I have Tim Hardaway number two.
• 53:15
  I mean, and Tim Hardaway averaging seventeen points a game. Then,
• 53:21
  well, all he really does, he just comes off the bench to just
• 53:23
  score. That's that's all the maps they really have. They just have guards
• 53:28
  who could score. And he fills our role right there. And he wasn't
• 53:32
  this good when he was starting. And I think this is a perfect spot
• 53:35
  for him. But out of the two, I would have to say Malik
• 53:38
  Monk, he definitely would be the sixth man of the year. This is
• 53:42
  the only award where I feel like you can't you can't really debate it.
• 53:46
  And so all right, let's go and get into a Rookie of the Year,
• 53:51
  Josh. I know there's some questions here as far as who's the rookie
• 53:53
  of the Year. No, there's no question in the entire world. If
• 53:57
  anyone still thinks it's check, you are a lying to yourself. You are
• 54:00
  aligning. You just want to be a hater. You just want to be
• 54:02
  a hater. If you still say check, and you're probably gonna say check
• 54:06
  because I know you're a hater. And so so Rookie of the Year,
• 54:09
  my prediction, of course was Victor wim bin Yama. And then my Rookie
• 54:14
  of the Year so far is Victor wimbin Yama. First in points per game
• 54:17
  for rookies twenty point five, first, and rebounds ten fourth and assists three
• 54:22
  point two first, and steals one point one and first in blocks and all
• 54:28
  in the NBA first three point two blocks. I can harp on all the
• 54:31
  defensive stats that I that I just said, I'm not gonna do it again.
• 54:37
  We already get the deal. Best defensive player in the NBA already,
• 54:40
  Okay, but offensively. I did not expect this from Victor Winbin Yama.
• 54:46
  I even said it to Fon So I said to a couple people in the
• 54:49
  barbershop that I didn't think he was gonna be this good to start off the
• 54:52
  seat, start off his career offensively. He's averaging twenty points per game,
• 54:58
  almost twenty one points per game on only twenty eight minutes per game. He's
• 55:00
  not even playing over thirty minutes per game. If he had an extra five
• 55:04
  minutes, he would be averaging twenty five twenty six points per game. And
• 55:08
  if he and once his three point shot gets more efficient, Oh my god,
• 55:12
  the world is about to be introduced to the greatest player to ever live.
• 55:19
  And I'm happy to say I have Victor woman Yama and Patrick Mahomes on
• 55:22
  my two favorite teams. So I'm living good life right now. And I
• 55:27
  don't know. We've seen him drop thirty numerous times. We've seen him take
• 55:30
  it to a d We've seen him take it to a couple, to Rudy
• 55:32
  Gobert to a couple, and we saw him son Chet Homegren on national television.
• 55:38
  He'd called he freaking bodied for a couple of times. Game. Hey,
• 55:43
  it doesn't matter who won the game. We all know what we were
• 55:45
  watching. We all know what we were watching. We all know what we
• 55:47
  were watching. Pull up the highlights and watch Chet Home Green versus Women Yama,
• 55:52
  and that will tell you who the Rookie of the Year is. Yeah,
• 55:55
  yeah, no. Obviously Wimby is a favorite here, but there's now
• 56:00
  not really anybody else. Three four five. It's the closest one is Chet.
• 56:05
  And I started looking at the odds. Wemby's minus six hundred Chess plus
• 56:08
  five hundred, so it's a clear runaway. We could Wimby could not play
• 56:14
  another game. And I know if you take out the criteria, I think
• 56:17
  he'd still win Rookie of the Year because Jet he has had a good season
• 56:22
  after he was injured. Let's not take that away from him, even even
• 56:27
  though I know there's some people that are hating on this podcast, but sixteen
• 56:32
  points, seven points per game, seven point six assists, fifty three percent
• 56:37
  from the field, that's pretty damn good. Not even to mention all all
• 56:43
  the people around him. Obviously, you have Shay, you have Josh Katy,
• 56:45
  you have both the Jalen Williams, you have Lou Dort, you have
• 56:49
  Asiah Joe, you have pieces around all them average over eight points a game
• 56:52
  and they all get a chance to score the ball. So compared to Wimby
• 56:57
  who not necessarily that it's all on him, but he's able to get more
• 57:00
  touches throughout the game if he really needed to, compared to Check who can't.
• 57:05
  But he's still had a good season, good season so far. But
• 57:08
  obviously Winby, he deserves this, and as far as coach of the year.
• 57:13
  So my coach of the year got fucked over. I had Adrian Griffin
• 57:17
  and this dude got fired before the All Star break. And you know what
• 57:21
  was even crazier, Dark Rivers. He had the All Or he became the
• 57:24
  All Star coach. So so if Dark Rivers he wins Coach of the Year,
• 57:30
  I'm considering my pick, right, I don't care, I'm considering it
• 57:34
  right. So who is your coach of the year? Before the season?
• 57:37
  Mine was Mark Dagnall like a smart person, coach of the Oklahoma City a
• 57:44
  coach of the Oklahoma City Thunder, And right now he is my favorite to
• 57:46
  win Coach of the Year. He is second in the West, third in
• 57:51
  the whole NBA. His offensive rating is forced in the NBA. His defensive
• 57:55
  rating is fourth in the NBA and his points per game fourth in the NBA.
• 58:01
  Four four four angel numbers. But you know, so he's leading the
• 58:07
  he's leading the squad of the second youngest team in the NBA to the second
• 58:09
  best record in the entire Western Conference with the team full of veteran teams.
• 58:14
  This team, this, this that should be nothing short of being coach of
• 58:17
  the year. I don't know if I can bring up any more stats that
• 58:21
  proves that. And he's leading, he's allowing Shay to really develop into the
• 58:24
  star that he's gonna superstar that he's going that he is and is becoming.
• 58:29
  And that's why, that's why Mark Dagnall is my coach of the Year at
• 58:32
  this very moment. So it's hard to disagree right there. But let's go
• 58:39
  ahead and get into this next topic right here, in which so since we
• 58:44
  already went over all the wards and stendings, and it's been a long gap
• 58:47
  in between, we've had this really majority of the season right here, this
• 58:53
  backstretch, it's gonna be the fun part here. But as far as some
• 58:58
  of the biggest surprises of the seas, so Josh what was what is one
• 59:02
  of the biggest surprizes you've seen throughout the season so far. I understand people
• 59:08
  may not be as high as I was on them going into the season,
• 59:12
  but the Brooklyn Nets, for me, I had a really high hope,
• 59:15
  especially how they ended the season without Katie and Kyrie, and how mckel bridges
• 59:20
  and Cam Thomas and Nicholas Klaxon came into their own to end the season last
• 59:23
  year. I really thought they were gonna make that big jump, not necessarily
• 59:27
  be in the top three of the Eastern Commerce, but somewhere in that ye
• 59:30
  in that four to eight range. I thought they were gonna be there.
• 59:31
  But they've completely fallen off. And I don't know if it's Jack Vaughn if
• 59:35
  the players aren't responding, but Jack Vaughn's gone, so we're gonna see how
• 59:38
  they do respond, because I think this team is full of talent. Dude
• 59:44
  like Cam Thomas is one of the best scorers in the NBA, and I
• 59:46
  will sit here and say that he on a He may be sometimes inefficient,
• 59:52
  but when that dude is on, he is on, and he's gonna do
• 59:55
  it while keeping a straight face and acting like this isn't this is just his
• 1:00:00
  side job, it's not even his daily job, and this is why.
• 1:00:04
  And Nicholas Claxton is one of the better defensive players in the NBA. So
• 1:00:07
  it's kind of it's a little confusing to why they're in this position that they
• 1:00:09
  are, and I don't really have really answers for it. So the biggest
• 1:00:15
  surprise for me, we kind of talked about this a little bit earlier,
• 1:00:19
  It has to be the Orlando Magic. As far as the Orlando Magic,
• 1:00:22
  I don't know if you know this, as far as there's any betters that
• 1:00:25
  watches, but as far as against the spread, their record against the spread
• 1:00:30
  this season, I think they're like forty something and seventeen. So even Vegas
• 1:00:37
  they doubted them throughout the entire year and didn't expect them to be up to
• 1:00:40
  the eight seed. They were literally one of the worst teams there were fourteenth
• 1:00:45
  or thirteenth as far as in the Eastern Conference, and now that the eighth
• 1:00:49
  seed in which the Eastern Conference not necessarily that there's any great teams other than
• 1:00:55
  the Boston Celtics in my opinion, but everybody else has solid there and they've
• 1:01:00
  still done pretty good. And Paulo Bank Carrol. I didn't expect him to
• 1:01:05
  make that jump right there. I didn't going from about sixteen seventeen points a
• 1:01:09
  game to now twenty three points a game, seven rebounds, five assists,
• 1:01:13
  forty six percent from the field. And I really like, like you said,
• 1:01:17
  this isn't the same old Magic team. You got Franz Wagner who's averaging
• 1:01:22
  twenty two points a game, and you have some good role players Cole Anthony
• 1:01:24
  Window Carter, Maurice ragn Wagner, and you have Jalen Suggs there too,
• 1:01:30
  So that's going to be an interesting spot as far as you're building a nice
• 1:01:36
  young team there. Will they make a jump as far as the next year
• 1:01:40
  since there's expectations, I'm not sure about that. But as of right now,
• 1:01:46
  they've done a pretty good job. So when you said not sure about
• 1:01:51
  that, I thought back to that, and he was like, are you
• 1:01:52
  sure about that? Ye? Are you sure about that? But that's what
• 1:01:58
  it reminded me of, like, oh, that John Cena one, are
• 1:02:02
  you sure about? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I
• 1:02:06
  know what you're talking about. I still believe John Cena is a better restler
• 1:02:09
  all time than Randy Orton. I know that's really, I know that's really.
• 1:02:14
  We're not there that night. I was faded. I was gone.
• 1:02:16
  Off the twisteds and off the t do's and sprite dude, and I will
• 1:02:21
  sit here and die. Randy Orton is the greatest wrestler to ever walk the
• 1:02:24
  face of the planet. And we might have to might have to do a
• 1:02:28
  WWE pod where we debate this ship. But we're not gonna. I don't
• 1:02:31
  know if we should get into it right now, but I am not gonna.
• 1:02:35
  I'm no, I'm already heated. I'm not talking about it. I'm
• 1:02:37
  not talking about it, all right. Yeah, we're just gonna leave it
• 1:02:42
  at that. John Tena's better, but all right, Josh who what was
• 1:02:46
  one of your other biggest surprises of the season so far? The Minnesota temper
• 1:02:52
  Wolves in Oklahoma City Thunder. I mean, we kind of talked about it
• 1:02:54
  earlier in the standings. I don't want to go too much into it,
• 1:02:58
  but the fact that I had them seven and eight and they're one and two
• 1:03:01
  in the conference station is a big flip, is a big foot from what
• 1:03:06
  I had, and it's pretty cool to see because it's like kind of a
• 1:03:08
  changing of the guard. We see the young players come through, Anthony Edwards
• 1:03:13
  and Shay, it's kind of like to see the old guys kind of moving
• 1:03:16
  on out, you know, kind of moving into that secondary role in these
• 1:03:19
  new guys taking over as the best players in the NBA. And that's that's
• 1:03:22
  those that would be my second biggest surprise so far this season. So the
• 1:03:28
  biggest surprise for me is that the Lakers and the Warriors they continue to struggle
• 1:03:35
  like they did last year. And I didn't expect that as far as with
• 1:03:37
  all the pieces that both these teams made, and you still have the faces
• 1:03:42
  of the NBA Steph Lebron James on both of those teams right there, I
• 1:03:46
  thought that this would have been one of the last hurrahs as far as them
• 1:03:52
  being up there, them being like a three to four seed with realistic chances
• 1:03:55
  of get into at least the finals. But obviously that's not gonna happen right
• 1:04:01
  there, or which I don't think will happen for both of these teams right
• 1:04:04
  there. But it's just pretty surprising. And I know there's a little bit
• 1:04:10
  bit off topic right here, but obviously those guys are older, Kevin Duranron
• 1:04:15
  James, Steph Curry, Who do you think is gonna be the face of
• 1:04:21
  the NBA coming? Do you really want me to answer that? You already
• 1:04:28
  know who My answer is, Who's gonna be the face of the NBA.
• 1:04:30
  There's only one man that's gonna be the face of the NBA, and that's
• 1:04:33
  Victor Win Vignamu bro. There's no other option, Victor option. There's no
• 1:04:41
  other option. There's none. The guy that gets compared to being the greatest
• 1:04:45
  prospect of all time and in so far living up to the hype, is
• 1:04:48
  gonna be the face of the NBA. And wait till they get a couple
• 1:04:51
  pieces around him. He's gonna win, and he's gonna win a lot.
• 1:04:57
  Okay, Hey, in San Antonio sant still the most winning his organization in
• 1:05:01
  NBA history when it comes to percentage wise, and we're gonna get back to
• 1:05:04
  that with Victor Winbinyama. But face of the league. It kind of matters
• 1:05:11
  where you're at. But the thing is is not is a lot more.
• 1:05:19
  He's low key. He's a low key guy, but he's already I believe,
• 1:05:26
  number two in Jersey sales. In the entire world, he's number He's
• 1:05:30
  the second most streamed player in the NBA, in the entire world, and
• 1:05:36
  he's getting He's just got a Louis Vuitton ambassadorship. He's nikeah, Nike's next
• 1:05:44
  biggest face of their like basketball promotion. Yeah. He literally in the Rising
• 1:05:50
  Stars game, he was the one sitting down taking the pictures while all the
• 1:05:55
  other players set around him. They already know who the next great is gonna
• 1:05:59
  be. Bro, it's gonna to be Victor Women Yama. It's gonna be
• 1:06:01
  Victor Women Yama. Who's gonna be the face of the NBA. So you
• 1:06:05
  don't think, like there's an Anthony Edwards, a Shay anybody like that.
• 1:06:11
  You don't think you don't think they could be the face of the league.
• 1:06:14
  I don't think I'll give another answer. I don't think twenty six years old.
• 1:06:18
  So the market matters. I think the best the market does matter.
• 1:06:28
  But naming Minnesota, yeah, you know, like, do you have you
• 1:06:35
  noticed something of all the teams that signed the big players are not teams that
• 1:06:41
  were thinking of winning championships. All the lower teams that drafted all their players.
• 1:06:44
  I'm just putting that out there, just putting that out there. I'm
• 1:06:47
  trying to think there's not really another guy who's who's on the high market end
• 1:06:55
  and up in Luca. Yeah, that's like. But the thing is that
• 1:07:00
  it's the same aspect as Victor women Yama. They're both international players, the
• 1:07:03
  best at their positions, all that stuff, you know, Like I would
• 1:07:08
  say, Luka Doncics, Luka Doncis is probably the face of the NBA.
• 1:07:13
  Like guys like you're disappointed, like Devin Booker, Donovan Mitchell. They all
• 1:07:17
  have the they all have the attributes to be face face of the league,
• 1:07:23
  but they're just not. They're not at all. Anthony Davis should be,
• 1:07:28
  Janna should be, Jason Tatum should be, but they but they can't.
• 1:07:32
  I think it's too late for there. You think it's too late for Yannis.
• 1:07:35
  I think is up there? I think I think I think Victor women
• 1:07:40
  Yama is going to be the face of the league. I think there's no
• 1:07:44
  there's no question about it. I know you're gonna hate this answer, but
• 1:07:46
  I really think this guy he could be face of the league because he's still
• 1:07:50
  top fifteen in Jersey Cells. It's John Moran. That's why I was thinking.
• 1:07:57
  That's what I was thinking. But the thing is he has to the
• 1:08:00
  wrong generations for all the wrong reasons. Like, Okay, people, I
• 1:08:04
  hate this younger generation that harps on Jamran. Jummran can't play defense, Drummarrant
• 1:08:09
  can't shoot, like Drumarran is just an inside scorer. Bro. Like,
• 1:08:13
  I don't know, I just I'm not on the Morant train, but I
• 1:08:15
  get it. He all the all these kids, all they want is a
• 1:08:19
  Ja Morant Jersey. Like, yeah, all these kids want is Ja Morant
• 1:08:25
  Jersey and Ja Morant. This Dummarant, the gritty Dummarant, young boy,
• 1:08:29
  all that stuff. Like I don't know, like for real, because that's
• 1:08:32
  that's he promotes, all these things. He promotes all he's He's just he's
• 1:08:40
  just every little kid. I asked, like, who's your favorite player?
• 1:08:42
  John Morant? The hell, Like that's what I'm saying. He has a
• 1:08:45
  pool on this younger generation. But the thing, I think that the thing
• 1:08:50
  is obviously off the court. There's off the court, no question, which
• 1:08:54
  is why he will never be the face of the NBA. He's already gotten
• 1:08:58
  into too much trouble, he's been suspended, and then plus I don't think
• 1:09:01
  he'll ever win a major MVP Award. Yeah, I could I could see
• 1:09:08
  that. Yeah, I could see that. Zion Man Zion. He was
• 1:09:13
  supposed to be facing the league. Man, there's so many issues. Is
• 1:09:17
  already kind of too much already. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It
• 1:09:21
  would happen international, now that I'm thinking about it. The five best players
• 1:09:30
  in the league, most of them are international as well as Yeah, there's
• 1:09:39
  a big there's a big gap between them because for me, face of the
• 1:09:44
  league's Luca Wombin, Yama and Shape. That's who I'm gonna give mm hmmm.
• 1:09:49
  Because the things I think they don't get in trouble off the court.
• 1:09:53
  They they keep low key lifestyles. They're all about ball. They're really promotable
• 1:09:59
  to the to all you generate to like all generations, like it's gonna that's
• 1:10:02
  who's gonna be. Yeah, yeah, I could see that right there.
• 1:10:06
  But all right, let's let's go ahead and get onto what we're supposed to
• 1:10:10
  get onto. But so, like we always do Fantasy Draft, now it's
• 1:10:15
  gonna be NBA edition here. It's gonna be eight man rotation. And the
• 1:10:20
  criteria for this is players who have never won a ring, and we have
• 1:10:29
  one wild card as far as so we have seven normal spots and we have
• 1:10:31
  one wild card as far as somebody who has played less than ten years and
• 1:10:38
  who hasn't won a ring yet. That's that's the wild card right there.
• 1:10:41
  But other than that, the criteria they haven't won a ring and they had
• 1:10:44
  to play over ten years in the league so far, they could still be
• 1:10:46
  active or retired, but at least ten years. So we didn't decide on
• 1:10:54
  as far as who's drafting first. But I'll be I'll be a gentleman here.
• 1:10:59
  I'll let you draft first. I'll let you get I'll let you get
• 1:11:00
  first grabs here. Dang. I didn't even think I was gonna get that
• 1:11:03
  opportunity. Okay, Now, like I have my list, but I'm like,
• 1:11:12
  I don't want to make the wrong decision. It's a tough one.
• 1:11:18
  Mm hmm. Make your choice wisely, man, you know what, I
• 1:11:30
  don't know what actually I'm gonna go with. Crap. You want to go
• 1:11:39
  first, you can go first, you can go first. You want me
• 1:11:42
  to go first, I'll let you go first. Ah. Man. So
• 1:11:47
  there there's plenty of options here. But I think this is gonna be.
• 1:11:54
  This is pretty obvious for me. I'm gonna have to i'mna have to go
• 1:11:58
  with a team at here. I'm gonna have to go with team Tracy mcgrae.
• 1:12:02
  But okay, So as far as position wise, i'm gonna put him.
• 1:12:08
  I'm gonna put him at my one team. Okay, no, no,
• 1:12:12
  no passing. Okay, Well, then i'm gonna go with you know
• 1:12:20
  what, I'm gonna go with Russell Westbrook as my point guard. Russell Westbrook
• 1:12:27
  as your point guard. Okay. So I'm gonna take Charles Barkley Okay,
• 1:12:35
  okay, and I'm gonna put I'm gonna put him at my Oh he want
• 1:12:44
  to ring? No? No, no, no, he didn't want to
• 1:12:45
  ring, wondering. Yeah, no, no, I'm tripping. I'm tripping.
• 1:12:47
  I'm tripping. Go ahead, go ahead, my bad. I'm putting
• 1:12:53
  it at my point. I put Berkeley on mine. Okay, I put
• 1:12:56
  it back on your Okay. So the criteria was ten seasons, right,
• 1:13:02
  my singer is gonna be twelve, and that that's a good that's a good
• 1:13:12
  pick right there. I didn't I didn't even think about that one right there.
• 1:13:15
  So for my next pick right here, again, we're going with we're
• 1:13:24
  going with a different type of or we're going with ten years. So put
• 1:13:28
  Paul George at my two. That's a good one. That's a good one.
• 1:13:32
  I felt like, Okay, So then I'm gonna go at my two.
• 1:13:36
  I'm gonna go with Vince Carter. Vince Carter. Yeah, Vince Carter's
• 1:13:43
  gonna be my number, my my two. So I probably shouldn't have picked
• 1:13:51
  this guy. I probably should have picked this guy. I think you already
• 1:13:58
  know who have me to pick? No, but I'm trying to Okay,
• 1:14:02
  okay, okay, let me see, let me see you know what I'm
• 1:14:08
  I'm keeping him off off limits. I think we already know who we're talking
• 1:14:12
  about. Here, go ahead and give me. I'm gonna take my sixth
• 1:14:18
  man. Here, give me James Harden. Oh dang, okay, okay,
• 1:14:24
  that's where I was gonna go for my six man. All right.
• 1:14:27
  For my three, I'm gonna go with Carmelo Anthony. You're gonna take mellow
• 1:14:33
  mm hmm. So for my five here, I don't know if I want
• 1:14:43
  to use I don't know if I want to use my criteria or oh,
• 1:14:48
  I'm not sure you know what. Wait I think let me make sure I'm
• 1:14:58
  trying to double check here whenever, whenever this player got drafted because I had
• 1:15:05
  him down, but I didn't double check. Where's he yet? Where's he
• 1:15:13
  at? Where's yet? It doesn't show? Oh wait, okay, give
• 1:15:19
  me Jimmy Butler at my three. He's played twelve seasons. Oh okay,
• 1:15:25
  I'm a my sixth man, which you'll probably have a hard time accepting that
• 1:15:28
  he's a six man on my team, but he's gonna have to be.
• 1:15:30
  It's gonna be Allen Iverson as my sixth man. How did I completely forget
• 1:15:36
  about him? Oh my goodness, I completely that's the obvious guy who's never
• 1:15:42
  won a ring before. Oh my goodness, I completely forgot. You know
• 1:15:48
  what, Go ahead and give me for my other bench guy, somebody who
• 1:15:54
  could who could spark up and who could get hot at any second, spark
• 1:15:58
  up like that. Give me, give me Reggie Miller. Give me Reggie
• 1:16:05
  Miller. Okay, okay, for my four. He's gonna run the court
• 1:16:15
  for me, and his name is Chris Webber. Chris Webber is gonna be
• 1:16:19
  my number. Oh that's a nice pick. That's a nice pick. I
• 1:16:23
  was I was hoping you wouldn't take him my team. Is eating your team
• 1:16:28
  alive in my opinion right now? Uh okay, So I have one bench
• 1:16:34
  spot left and I have a center left, so I have to I have
• 1:16:40
  to really think about this right now. You know, you know what.
• 1:16:47
  I feel like we should go deep. I want to go ten deep.
• 1:16:49
  Bro. I'm sorry, I get I can't you just you're the one that
• 1:17:03
  says this stuff bad. I tried not to have this dirty butd but we're
• 1:17:10
  just saying ship like that. Man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Should
• 1:17:15
  we go ten players? Should we go ten players? Because I have a
• 1:17:17
  whole list right here. I'm like, damn, this is gonna be left
• 1:17:20
  off the depth? All right? All right, yeah, no, we
• 1:17:27
  can go ten players. Let me go ahead, and I had them here.
• 1:17:33
  I can't believe this guy. But guy, but you know what for
• 1:17:39
  my center here, give me the kimbe give me. He's got to get
• 1:17:44
  worked by freaking Joel Embiat is he though? Yes he is? He's too
• 1:17:49
  slow though the kimbembo. All right, So I have my start lineup Westbrook,
• 1:17:57
  Vince Carter, Mellow Weber, and Dull Embiid. My sixth man is
• 1:18:01
  Allen Iverson. So I'm gonna go with my seventh man, and he's gonna
• 1:18:08
  have to you know, I'm gonna take my wild card right now. It's
• 1:18:14
  gonna be mister Victor Wiben Yama as my seventh as my seventh taking Victor.
• 1:18:19
  You think I'm You thought I was playing. I wasn't, bro I thought
• 1:18:23
  you were playing. You know what I'm I'm gonna pick this guy right here,
• 1:18:32
  and we completely forgot about this guy. So I'm gonna move him a
• 1:18:36
  tumble to my bench. But give me Yaoming as my That's a good pick
• 1:18:42
  right there, that's a good pick. I did not think of Yao Ming
• 1:18:45
  only because yeah, I just been on the rocket, so you know.
• 1:18:48
  But two, three, four, five, eight, all right, yeah,
• 1:18:55
  d bag, I got a deep bag. I'm gonna get my final
• 1:18:59
  big man, final big man. It's gonna be Dwight Howard. No he
• 1:19:06
  didn't. Oh I forgot? Does that count? Never mind? Never mind
• 1:19:15
  as that guy you're not gonna count the bubble? Oh yeah, I forgot.
• 1:19:20
  I just forgot he was on the team. He was all right,
• 1:19:28
  nothing nothing crazy. I feel like I'm gonna go with elgind Baylor right here.
• 1:19:32
  Elgend Baylor never won a ring. That is insane. I'm gonna go
• 1:19:36
  with him as my ninth, as my as my eighth. I'll show love
• 1:19:40
  to the old guys when I need to show love, I'm showing love,
• 1:19:43
  guys. I'm taking elgind Baylor right here. So I'm I'm conflicted here as
• 1:19:50
  far as with these two. With these two players here, I'm gonna go
• 1:19:59
  in and tell you them because you have your guards already, right, you
• 1:20:02
  pretty much have your guards already well Westbrook and Vince Carter. So I'm tempted
• 1:20:11
  between and I think this is a Homer pick. So I'm templed between these
• 1:20:16
  two d Rose and CP three mm hmm. But you know what, I'm
• 1:20:21
  gonna go CP three here because him and Hard and they have worked before.
• 1:20:29
  And I know team Mac he could be a little bit of a ballhog here,
• 1:20:33
  but CP three he's a dog, so I know, I know we'll
• 1:20:38
  be good. I know we'll be good. Well, I am going to
• 1:20:41
  go with mister ah crap. It's between these two for me right here.
• 1:20:54
  Oh, I know my last pick, you know what? Okay? So
• 1:21:06
  I have Weber embiid Winbin Yama, those my three. Should I take one
• 1:21:10
  more big man so I can have a good rotation or mellow could play the
• 1:21:15
  four sometimes getting cooked. Mm hmm. You know what, I'm gonna take
• 1:21:25
  a Homer pick right here, give me mister LaMarcus Aldridge as my number as
• 1:21:29
  that's a good pick as my pick right. That's so, I haven't used
• 1:21:34
  my wild card yet and I still need a wing defender. So a little
• 1:21:42
  bit of Google's here. There's different guys that was that were popping up for
• 1:21:47
  me, and I'm tempted between either Jason Tatum or Grant Hill. Well,
• 1:21:59
  Branton Hill he didn't and I'm I probably shouldn't have told you that second name
• 1:22:09
  because he was literally on my mind for this next Yeah, him and two
• 1:22:15
  other people. I'm I'm so tempted right now. Take Jason Tatum. But
• 1:22:30
  you know what, this this may I don't feel like this is too crazy,
• 1:22:33
  But give me j t here. I'm taking him over Grant Hill.
• 1:22:39
  That's not crazy. But I do think at their peaks, I think,
• 1:22:44
  yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like Grant Hill had his peak, it's
• 1:22:46
  it's crazy. Mm hmm. I kind of feel like I have to go
• 1:22:51
  Grant Hill right there, because I can have Ai in Westbrook handling the ball
• 1:22:56
  at all times. Yeah, with everyone else buddeling through, because I don't
• 1:23:00
  want to help you with your last pick by naming these other guys. I
• 1:23:03
  already got ten. I went first, Oh you have ten? Well,
• 1:23:08
  then I'm stuck between Grant Hill, Damian Lillard, and Steve Nash right now.
• 1:23:14
  Mm hmmm. I thought of Dame, but I went in c P
• 1:23:17
  three over Dame because defensively, I'm gonna go with Grant Hill. I'm gonna
• 1:23:21
  take Grant Hill right here, supposed to be the next Jordan he he when
• 1:23:26
  he was on the court. Crap, bro what does it? Keeping?
• 1:23:32
  Injuries got to him in his career. But I'm gonna go with him over
• 1:23:35
  Steve Nash. Keep taking your mic off. Okay, can you hear me?
• 1:23:42
  Okay? How about now? Is that better? Now? Yeah?
• 1:23:44
  Yeah, okay, yeah, I just screwed up a little bit so you
• 1:23:46
  could hear. Yeah. I'm gonna take Grant Hill over Steve Nash and Dame
• 1:23:51
  Dolla right here. I just feel like, at his peak, he's that
• 1:23:56
  guy. Yeah, So all right, we'll go ahead and list our teams
• 1:24:02
  right here. I'm gonna so I'm gonna kind of adjust my lineup here,
• 1:24:08
  so it's kind of the way I like it. So I'm gonna have CP
• 1:24:13
  three as my starting point guard. I'm gonna have I'm gonna have Paul George
• 1:24:20
  as my shooting guard, Jimmy Butler as my three, Charles Barkley as my
• 1:24:26
  four, Yao Ming as my five, and for my bench, I have
• 1:24:30
  Tracy McGrady, James Harden, Reggie Miller, the KEMMI M tumble and wait,
• 1:24:38
  I said Jason Tatum. Already yeah, yeah, that's my ten.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah, I thought I was stripping. Yeah, that's my ten. Alrighty
• 1:24:45
  for me at my point guard, Russell Westbrook at my shooting guard, Vince
• 1:24:51
  Carter my three, Carmelo Anthony, my four, Chris Weber. My five
• 1:25:00
  is Joel Embiid. My sixth man is Alan Iverson. Then I have Victor
• 1:25:04
  Wimbin yama elgend Baylor, the Marcus Aldridge and Grant Hill. No, you're
• 1:25:14
  getting bro No, you're getting cooked, broke. They have I have the
• 1:25:21
  Marcus Aldridge is gonna bust anyone's ass from the mid range. You already know
• 1:25:27
  the Marcus in the mid range was lethal, was lethal, and you got
• 1:25:32
  coming off the bench with Wimbyama it's insane, bro. No, I just
• 1:25:42
  think I think I have a bunch of wing defenders and guys obviously, I
• 1:25:47
  know I have. I have James hard in there, but that's just one
• 1:25:50
  guy. Everybody else they're committed to winning. Ai not sure, Russell Westbrook,
• 1:25:58
  not sure. Vince Carter, he just wants to hit a highlight rail.
• 1:26:02
  Uh uh. I was like, guy were committed to winning, obviously.
• 1:26:05
  I mean, that's why they're on this list, right, That's that's
• 1:26:11
  why we drafted them. That's why who can lose the best? But some
• 1:26:20
  honorable mentions. I had Alex English, John Stock, Pat Ewing, Karl
• 1:26:28
  Malone, Patrick We're not gonna mention his name ever again on the NBA pot,
• 1:26:33
  but yeah, Carl Malone, Chris Mullen, Bradley Bill, the Martyrosen.
• 1:26:42
  Okay, we were thinking of the same guys. Then Pistol Pete,
• 1:26:45
  Old Pistol Pete Maravich, Dominique Wilkins, George Garvin, and then yeah,
• 1:26:51
  there's a there's just a couple of others that we probably didn't name. Nate
• 1:26:55
  Thurman. I put a Mario Stanemeyer up there. Yeah, I had him
• 1:27:00
  too, was thinking of him. I don't think of someone else. I
• 1:27:03
  just can't remember. Crap, I thought someone else, but I just couldn't
• 1:27:08
  remember. Which player do you think in the NBA that's rising up that that
• 1:27:14
  won't win a ring? Like that's one of the best up and Jason Tatum.
• 1:27:20
  Yeah, I don't think. Well, good, well, good thing
• 1:27:24
  I drafted this because it's probably gonna age like one. Then. I don't
• 1:27:27
  know. I just don't see them winning, Bro, I do something about
• 1:27:30
  that team that I just don't see winning. Mm hmm, yeah, I
• 1:27:33
  don't. I don't know what it is. But this was this was a
• 1:27:38
  good podcast right here. I like this one right here. Hard have never
• 1:27:42
  won a ring. They could this year. I feel like they have a
• 1:27:48
  better chance than the Celtics. That's just me, though, I don't know,
• 1:27:55
  but that one, chief, I don't know. But all right,
• 1:28:00
  let's go ahead and get into our so called MVPs of the week. So
• 1:28:05
  so called MVPs obviously would do them every single week. This one now it's
• 1:28:11
  basketball related, Josh, who's your so called MVP of the week here,
• 1:28:17
  I'm gonna go with the hardest white boy since in the them, Mac McClung.
• 1:28:24
  Bro is my so called of the Week, Red Raider Nation, Stand
• 1:28:28
  Up Texas Tech Legend one is back to back Slam Dunk Award Slam Dunk Awards,
• 1:28:35
  and you know, it was a mid off to the end. It
• 1:28:38
  was just a mid off to the end. With the Slam Dunk Championship last
• 1:28:41
  year, he came in ate. This year he just kind of did the
• 1:28:44
  same shit, just on the other side. But you know, I have
• 1:28:47
  to give it to him, g leaguer. He already ever gets his praise.
• 1:28:50
  He's that's why he's so called VP of the Week for me. But
• 1:28:55
  yeah, you know, Spurs signed him so I can just have a mc
• 1:28:57
  mcclun Spurs jersey and then that's okay. But you know, it's just cool.
• 1:29:01
  It's cool to see sometimes. Yeah, it is so for mine.
• 1:29:06
  Even though he didn't win All Star Game MVP. I'm gonna give it to
• 1:29:11
  Tyrese Halliburton here because the All Star Game it wasn't Indie. And this dude
• 1:29:15
  in the first quarter he hit five threes in a row and he hit one
• 1:29:18
  of them as a half quarter. And I don't know if anybody noticed this,
• 1:29:21
  but this dude he shoots. He shoots very weird and somehow all of
• 1:29:27
  these that were going in and yeah, that's my first so called MVP for
• 1:29:31
  NBA wise, but yeah, let's go ahead and get into our Q and
• 1:29:38
  a's here. So we don't have that many. But the first one that
• 1:29:43
  we're going to get into, which you kind of mentioned, why is the
• 1:29:46
  dunk contest dying? And how do we fix it? For me? The
• 1:29:54
  stars are no longer gravitating towards the Dunk Contest like it used to be and
• 1:29:59
  where they used to be. Dominique Wilkins, Michael Jordan's, Vince Carter's,
• 1:30:02
  Kobe Bryant, even Ray Allen at one point, these guys all competed in
• 1:30:08
  the Slam Dunk Contest and then it even had even the great ones. Not
• 1:30:14
  they're not necessarily the big names, but the big names who we knew were
• 1:30:16
  dunkers like Nate Robinson at his size, Dwight Howard even competed. We had
• 1:30:26
  yet, I mean, at these times, Jason Richardson, they were known
• 1:30:29
  for dunking the basketball. Yeah, yeah, there, we don't have guys
• 1:30:32
  like that anymore trying to join. Now we have to suven G leaguers and
• 1:30:36
  Jaylen Brown's is doing his best his best. Whatever he was trying to do
• 1:30:42
  out there, I don't know what he was, but it's like, and
• 1:30:45
  I blame Lebron James. I play if I don't blame Lebron for a lot,
• 1:30:49
  but I blame Lebron James for never doing the dunk contest because we saw
• 1:30:54
  Jordan, we saw Kobe do it. And then if Lebron James were to
• 1:30:57
  do the dunk contest at one point in his career, I believe we would
• 1:31:00
  still have stars doing it to this day because he could do all he does,
• 1:31:02
  all these dunks pre game that are crazy, and he just didn't do
• 1:31:08
  one slam dunk contest, And I think that's what led to the downfall of
• 1:31:10
  the dunk contest. We're just not seeing the stars gravitate if we I get
• 1:31:14
  if we didn't have great dunks, but if we saw like just I don't
• 1:31:18
  know, some Anthony Edwards and yeah, uh huh, John Moran Zion,
• 1:31:24
  Yeah, John Moran Zion all competing in the same dunk contest, I guarantee
• 1:31:28
  you it would create the atmosphere so different. But I also think, like
• 1:31:32
  another thing, I want to purport higher street dunkers just to come in.
• 1:31:36
  Yeah, that would like it. Would I think it would boost the slam
• 1:31:41
  Dunk Contest to a whole other level if they just got street dunkers to come
• 1:31:45
  in and just show off. I agree. I agree with that as far
• 1:31:49
  as it shouldn't just be NBA players anymore, because at this point, like
• 1:31:55
  you said, nobody really wants to be in the dunk contest. And there
• 1:32:00
  was something that came out that I read earlier that Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant,
• 1:32:04
  Lebron James, and all these different guys they got offered each a million
• 1:32:09
  dollars to join the dunk contest and they didn't want to do it. So
• 1:32:14
  if that's not going to convince your players, then it's definitely not going to
• 1:32:18
  convince anybody else. And I don't think this is necessarily a Lebron problem,
• 1:32:26
  because there still could have been other players that could have stepped up and done
• 1:32:31
  the dunk contest. It's just I think what happened now is compared to back
• 1:32:36
  then in the eighties, nineties and even early two thousands, all these dunks,
• 1:32:42
  dunks that we were seeing, it's dunks that we've never seen before.
• 1:32:45
  It's kind of hard to get so damn creative with these dunks, you know
• 1:32:49
  what I mean. At this point, they're kind of repeating themselves. Now
• 1:32:53
  when somebody sees a windmill through the legs or three sixty through the legs,
• 1:32:58
  nobody is surprised. They're like, yeah, yeah, that's good, give
• 1:33:00
  them a forty two. But back then, if you did that, then
• 1:33:04
  that's that's something amazing. I just think it's just a creativity has gone down
• 1:33:10
  between the dunks, if that makes sense. That's what I think the biggest
• 1:33:15
  thing is and street dunkers. That's the way to go, or just ban
• 1:33:18
  it for a couple of years, like like they did before Kobe, And
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  then when Kobe did it, it started to go crazy again. But then
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  we even still saw people like John Wall and Blake Griffin still trying to keep
• 1:33:31
  it alive. And then even yeah, even Liu was in the dunk contest.
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  I don't know, people forget it like these I forgot about that completely.
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  Guys that were up and coming like stars, they joined the dunk contest.
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  We just don't see those guys joining anymore. I think what kind of
• 1:33:48
  killed it was after such a great dunk contest and twenty sixteen between Zach Lavine
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  and Aaron Gordon. That was two years in a row of just greatness from
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  those two though. Yeah mm hmm. Well even Aaron Gordon versus who was
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  a Derek Jones junior. Yeah, that was twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
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  that was That was Alaska dunk contest that we've seen. But I feel like
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  it's getting Those guys were doing dunks we had never seen before, Zach Lavine
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  and Aaron even Derek Jones junior, like they just but like we just need
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  guys like that. I don't know, those guys are just different type of
• 1:34:25
  athleticism that we're just Yeah, and Zach Lavine what he did and Aaron Gordon
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  is what they were doing. You want to hear a hot take from me?
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  Hm, I think Aaron Gordon won that dunk contest against Zach Lavine.
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  I think you did. Yeah, but I don't know, they both did
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  crazy. I'm not even mad at the result, Like, I don't know,
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  Like honestly, I think it was clear. I think so the dunks
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  that okay, Okay, I know that he went through the free free throw
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  line twice. The first one was normal, the next one was a through
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  the legs. I think okay, first the Aaron Gordon won where that dude
• 1:35:09
  was spending on the hoverboard he caught it cocked back, and the one where
• 1:35:14
  he jumped over the mask through the legs, through both legs and went through,
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  not to mention the the double pump and then back bro like I think
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  clearer his day, clear as day. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Like
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  there's a difference. The reason why Michael Jordan, like, honestly, Michael
• 1:35:36
  Jordan Zach Levine's it's way different because Michael Jordan had air like you, there
• 1:35:42
  was aura. No no disrespect to Zach Levine. He's on he's on my
• 1:35:45
  Bulls, my favorite team, but he doesn't have that much aura, you
• 1:35:49
  know what I mean. Like it was it was more just an iconic dunk,
• 1:35:55
  not necessarily like holy crap dunk, if that makes sense. But it
• 1:36:00
  was still a great dug contest. But like at the end of the day,
• 1:36:03
  like they both freaking did some crazy shit like oh yeah, kind yeah.
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  I thought after that, I thought it was gonna revive it, but
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  it just didn't happen, and Aaron Gore tried a couple more times and then
• 1:36:15
  he just like I retired from this ship. He never won a dunk contest.
• 1:36:17
  Huh No, he never won. He was like, I'm tired of
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  this, Like I think I should have won twice already. Yeah for real,
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  No, he definitely won against Derek Jones Junior. I think d Web
• 1:36:28
  d Wade just screwed him over. Mm hmm, Well because Derek Joe Junior
• 1:36:31
  was a heater, a heatle at the time. Yeah. No, but
• 1:36:35
  all right, let's get into this next question right here. So we're talking
• 1:36:41
  about the dunk contest and how we fix it. How do we fix the
• 1:36:44
  All Star Game? Honestly, makes make them have home court advantage like the
• 1:36:51
  World Series, like if you're gonna do it the middle of the season,
• 1:36:56
  like I don't know, winner, Yeah, the winning conference gets home court
• 1:36:59
  advantage in the championship. I don't know, something like that, because like
• 1:37:03
  I don't know, you're not gonna get these guys to compete at a high
• 1:37:05
  level unless there's like even the whole charity thing, Like they don't they do
• 1:37:10
  enough money to their charities as it is. You really they're gonna ball out
• 1:37:14
  just for some random charity that one player picks. You know, I don't
• 1:37:16
  know. That's I get for a good cause, but these guys are all
• 1:37:20
  just there to have fun at the end of the day. Yeah, Like
• 1:37:25
  the thing is now the biggest knock on players now they're too friendly with each
• 1:37:29
  other now, Like I don't know, like back then, people want to
• 1:37:33
  I'm gonna say it, like I don't like it, but like I feel
• 1:37:38
  like if there was a little bit more like, hey, bro, let's
• 1:37:40
  go at it like me and you one on one and just like it would
• 1:37:43
  be pretty cool to see. But they're just not that same. They're they're
• 1:37:45
  all just chilling now, you know. Like I don't know, m okay,
• 1:37:51
  but the whole Kobe year, I think the Kobe year, it was
• 1:37:54
  a lot more at stake because Kobe's death and the whole thing. But they
• 1:37:58
  went at it with each other to where in that game, but then after
• 1:38:00
  that they just kind of went back to normal. Yeah, it just died
• 1:38:03
  now. Yeah, I think instead they should replace it with the one on
• 1:38:08
  one tournament as far as yeah, King of the Court, even if it
• 1:38:13
  doesn't place like like the pure All Stars, because like the Dunk Contest,
• 1:38:17
  you'll get in that, but just seeing NBA players like in a one on
• 1:38:20
  one they're they're so skilled that you don't see some of these guys what they
• 1:38:26
  actually do. Wait, what if first he's winning against anybody? Uh?
• 1:38:39
  I think PG, he has a he has the deepest bag as far as
• 1:38:43
  well, okay, not deepest bag as far as like there's no weakness to
• 1:38:46
  him defense, offense, anything. Does that make sense there? And I
• 1:38:56
  think and he's just ooh maybe maybe, but yeah no, there's not many
• 1:39:01
  people that could be that could be Kyrie. I don't give it time.
• 1:39:09
  Yeah, yeah, no, I think even all time or should they do
• 1:39:14
  like a no, but like a little I don't know what they would do
• 1:39:16
  to fix the All Star Game. I I kind of like how they went
• 1:39:19
  back to the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference. But I did draft scenario
• 1:39:24
  too. I always I always like how that is the thing is Yeah,
• 1:39:27
  I mean where they have to have a guaranteed starter, like these teams have
• 1:39:30
  to be these players have to be guaranteed starters. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:39:34
  whoever you want, you know what I'm saying, like you shouldn't be
• 1:39:38
  like, oh, since Demonti sa Bonis got top five, never gonna get
• 1:39:43
  it. But since he got top five in voting, top five in voting,
• 1:39:47
  you have to draft him and he has to be your starter. No,
• 1:39:49
  like just line them all up and then draft from that from that,
• 1:39:54
  you know, instead of like these guys have to be the starters. Yeah.
• 1:39:58
  See I like that right there. But I don't know. I didn't
• 1:40:01
  like them going back to the East versus West. I didn't like that because
• 1:40:06
  because it just makes it even more relaxing. But as far as that whole
• 1:40:11
  thing, as far as back then people were more enemies, I don't know,
• 1:40:15
  just me thinking about it. If I'm compared to me going up against
• 1:40:19
  the enemy or me going up against a friend, I'm gonna go way harder
• 1:40:24
  competing against a friend, you know what I mean, Because that's bragging right
• 1:40:27
  there. That's just that's just my thinking. They're like if me, if
• 1:40:31
  me and you we'd play basketball, Josh, like like we're cooling everything.
• 1:40:35
  But I'm thinking in my head, Noah, I'm trying to kick your ass.
• 1:40:39
  Bro. I want bragging, right so I can talk on the pod,
• 1:40:43
  you know what I mean. So it's like, so it's like that.
• 1:40:45
  That's I don't like how people they say, oh, because they're friends
• 1:40:48
  now they're buddy buddy. No, I don't buy that. I don't buy
• 1:40:51
  that. I just think they just don't care. Now, they just don't
• 1:40:56
  care about the All Star Game. Well look at look at the NFL.
• 1:41:01
  Look what, Yeah, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. But the
• 1:41:05
  thing is nfls they're hitting each other. I get that, you know.
• 1:41:09
  But the NBA, Yeah, that's true. The NBA. You're playing a
• 1:41:12
  basketball game, you know what I'm saying. But the thing is also making
• 1:41:15
  the break because eighty two game season, you know. But yeah, I
• 1:41:20
  don't know. I think it's hard. Ways to fix the All Star Game.
• 1:41:25
  Yeah, there's I feel like there's nothing that could really fix the All
• 1:41:29
  Star Game just the events, though the events could be fixed. But yeah,
• 1:41:35
  like I think they should do a three point contest. Was pissed about
• 1:41:40
  the effort in the and all the challenges, really he was. I didn't
• 1:41:45
  see that part right. He says something like like, yeah, I hated
• 1:41:47
  the effort that people gave in the in the challenges. I wanted to win
• 1:41:53
  or something like that. So imagine how he's gonna be when he makes an
• 1:41:55
  All Star Game for real over here Like Kobe. I don't know if you
• 1:42:00
  saw Kobe. He was like when me and CP three were on a team
• 1:42:03
  on an All Star game. We didn't lose at all, and I checked
• 1:42:06
  the stats. They literally didn't lose at all. They didn't. But I
• 1:42:13
  think when Wimby, when Wimby gets going, he's already has that like dog
• 1:42:16
  where he doesn't want to be friends with anybody. I can see, Like
• 1:42:18
  you can see it, like he doesn't really like The only player that I've
• 1:42:21
  seen that he kind of like was like, oh shit, was like Katie
• 1:42:24
  because that was like his favorite player growing up. But everyone else he was
• 1:42:28
  building exactly like Katie. Mm hmm. The other players, he's kind of
• 1:42:30
  just been like, oh, like whatever, you know. Hm, Well,
• 1:42:38
  let's go to get into this last question right here. Well, we've
• 1:42:42
  kind of been talking about this for for a while, so I guess we'll
• 1:42:46
  just kind of do just quickly through it, dude. Teams like the Thunder
• 1:42:51
  and Timberwolves have a real shot of making it to the NBA Finals this year.
• 1:42:58
  Yeah, I cook the timber Wolves m hm, So yes, they
• 1:43:02
  do have a real shot at making it. I just think I don't know,
• 1:43:05
  defensively, they're they're too good, I don't know, But and they
• 1:43:09
  can put it together offensively, when they need to. But you're not concerned
• 1:43:13
  that Rudy Gobert always gets exposed in the playoffs. I think I have concerns
• 1:43:20
  for every team. If I'm really gonna like that makes it like, yeah,
• 1:43:25
  that's true. So what teams can overcome their problems? That's true.
• 1:43:31
  It's not like years. It's not even like last year where the Nuggets they
• 1:43:35
  were steamrolling everybody. So yeah, yeah, you are right. Uh,
• 1:43:42
  obviously I think they do have a real shot this year. They're up there
• 1:43:45
  for a reading. At the end of the day, I'm just a hater.
• 1:43:51
  I don't know, You're just a hater of Chet, not the Thunder,
• 1:43:55
  just of Chat. I just I don't hate Chit. I just hate
• 1:43:59
  the compare of Chet to Wimby's like there's no comparison, Like there's just no
• 1:44:03
  comparison. And what sucks is that there's no in between, Like you can't
• 1:44:10
  either be for Wimby or or you can't be in between. You have to
• 1:44:13
  either be for Wimby. Wimby's way better than Chet, or Chet's better than
• 1:44:16
  Wimby. You can't just say both of these players are good. Mm hmm
• 1:44:21
  no, But is there anything else you want to say before we wrap up
• 1:44:28
  this pot here, desive player of the year leave it at that period,
• 1:44:35
  and Kobe White he is most improved player of the year. But all right,
• 1:44:39
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• 1:44:42
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• 1:44:53
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