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The Kenny Report | 15 October · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Love from the Sky, New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Barry Manilo his song the Housing Crisis, The Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: and his beach house. Also how the United Nations has
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  Speaker 2: allowed Iranian backed Hesbala to wreak havoc on Israel. Kristen
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  Speaker 2: Tate on the US presidential races. Donald Trump gets an
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  Speaker 2: unexpected boost from Bill Clinton. Also joining me tonight, Tim Blair,
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  Speaker 2: Suzi O'Brien, Stephen Senna, Teampo on the Great Paul Murray
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  Speaker 2: on News.
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  Speaker 1: Poll and Bathurst.
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  Speaker 2: We all know that Anthony Albanezi loves his music, usually
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  Speaker 2: rock music. I mean, this is a Prime Minister who
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  Speaker 2: likes to take in bands live and even spin a
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  Speaker 2: few discs as a DJ now and then. But who
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  Speaker 2: among us picked him as a Barry Manilo fan.
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  Speaker 1: Look to be fair, he's probably not into Man alone.
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  Speaker 2: But in case you haven't heard, the Prime Minister is
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  Speaker 2: buying a beach house. Not just any beach house, but
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  Speaker 2: at four point three million dollar beach house at Copa
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  Speaker 2: Cabana on the New South Wales central coast. Yeah, more
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  Speaker 2: than four million dollars overlooking the beach. And he's doing
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  Speaker 2: this while He divides his time between the Lodge that
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  Speaker 2: is the Prime Minister's official residence in Canberra and the
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  Speaker 2: official Sydney residence of Kiribilly House on the Harbor.
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  Speaker 1: Not too bad, hey.
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  Speaker 2: Albanizi also has his private residence in Marrickville, and he
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  Speaker 2: still owns an investment property in nearby Dullich Hill, which
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  Speaker 2: he's got on the market for just under two million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good for a bloke who's only ever worked in
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  Speaker 2: politics and has been through a divorce, But not a
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  Speaker 2: great look for the prime minister of a nation in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of a housing crisis. Latest reports show that
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  Speaker 2: one point six million households are facing mortgage stress in
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  Speaker 2: this country right now. Interest rates are biting heart. This
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  Speaker 2: prime minister promised to bring mortgages down, but he's seen
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  Speaker 2: rates go up a dozen times and the beach house
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  Speaker 2: he's buying is more than four times the national average
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  Speaker 2: house price.
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  Speaker 3: Jody and I are getting married, as is known, and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Pleased about that.
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  Speaker 3: And JODI's a coasty, She's a proud coasty. When your
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  Speaker 3: relationship changes, your life changes, and you make decisions. But
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  Speaker 3: what I'm focused on is making sure that everyone can
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  Speaker 3: get a roof over their head.
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  Speaker 2: Well, really, the bloke is allowed to buy a house
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  Speaker 2: if he wants to, But at the moment he and
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  Speaker 2: partner Jody are living in the Lodge and Curebilly, and
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  Speaker 2: he has two other houses. I mean, did it really
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  Speaker 2: need to buy this one now? Couldn't it wait till
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  Speaker 2: after the election?
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that have been wiser politically?
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't his marginal seat members have preferred that? Do they
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  Speaker 2: really want to see their chances of getting re elected
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  Speaker 2: suffer because their boss wants a four point three million
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  Speaker 2: dollar beach house and he wants it now.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, I am much better off as a prime minister.
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  Speaker 3: I earn a good income. I understand now, I understand
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  Speaker 3: now I've been fortunate, But I also know what it's like.
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  Speaker 4: To struggle.
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  Speaker 3: My mum lived in the one public housing that she
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  Speaker 3: was born in for all of her sixty five years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, there he goes again. We've all heard that
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  Speaker 2: story so many times. We don't need to hear it again.
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  Speaker 1: Do we.
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  Speaker 2: So let's get back to the beach house. Like many
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  Speaker 2: other climate alarmists who tell us that the oceans will
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  Speaker 2: rise and beaches will be washed away, and cliffs will
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  Speaker 2: be swept into the sea. Albanez's still happy to buy
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  Speaker 2: absolute ocean front, so I guess he reckons the coastline
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  Speaker 2: will stay the same for a little while yet, And
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  Speaker 2: with residents further north along the coast from Coca Cabana,
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  Speaker 2: they are facing the prospect of offshore.
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  Speaker 1: Wind farm spoiling their views.
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  Speaker 2: But we think Albo's view is safe from the wind
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  Speaker 2: turbines for now, unless buck out Bowen has got a
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  Speaker 2: death wish. But apart from the obvious question about political
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  Speaker 2: judgment during a housing crisis, there is one other query
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  Speaker 2: raised by the PM's beach house purchase. Doesn't it look
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  Speaker 2: like he's getting ready for retirement.
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  Speaker 3: I'm plenty to be in my current job for a
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  Speaker 3: very long period of time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Albo, just like you'd never lost a news poll, hay.
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  Speaker 2: I guess the election will sort all of this out.
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  Speaker 2: And regardless of course, we can all see him, We
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  Speaker 2: can all see him at the.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Look, sometimes this job is just too much fun.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I won't be expecting an invite to Copa Cabana.
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  Speaker 1: Just a little update on Nanny State watch.
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  Speaker 2: Our three levels of government never tire of reaching further
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  Speaker 2: and further into our lives, and it's my duty to
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  Speaker 2: point this out, of course, and please don't ever be
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  Speaker 2: shy about.
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  Speaker 1: Sending in examples.
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  Speaker 2: But this latest one is how does a way of
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  Speaker 2: fighting back of enshrining common sense. The New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: government wants to stop the NIMBI or not in my
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  Speaker 2: backyard objections to noisy venues in entertainment areas. So there's
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  Speaker 2: a new law to add a new clause to new
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  Speaker 2: property purchases and leases. Now the new clause is called
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  Speaker 2: an eyes wide open clause because it's just recognizing that
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  Speaker 2: you're buying or renting in a noisy area. And the
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  Speaker 2: idea is to reduce the chances of objections in the
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  Speaker 2: future about new venues or new events.
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  Speaker 5: We want this city to be exciting and vibrant and
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  Speaker 5: a place to attract young people to stay and also
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  Speaker 5: to spare money and drive the nighttime economy, not just
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  Speaker 5: local residents but also those from around the world. That's
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  Speaker 5: not going to happen unless we can get rid of
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  Speaker 5: some of the antiquated rules that have been in place
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  Speaker 5: for a long time, which really actively disincentivize pubs and
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  Speaker 5: clubs from operating. Having fun, a little bit of an
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  Speaker 5: excitement and driving the economy.
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  Speaker 2: Now this sounds fair enough, right, I mean, you know
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  Speaker 2: where you're buying when you buy. But think about how
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  Speaker 2: crazy this stuff is getting. Too many people are using
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  Speaker 2: the nanni state provisions, all the laws and regulations and
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  Speaker 2: processes that are open to them to oppose developments and activities.
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  Speaker 2: So we have to pass another nanny state provision trying
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  Speaker 2: to ensure that people know what they're buying or leasing
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  Speaker 2: before they seal the deal, so that they'll have less
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  Speaker 2: luck in objecting later. It's just madness and I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be too pessimistic. I accept the good intentions
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  Speaker 2: here from the New South Wales government, but we all
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  Speaker 2: know the truth. We've seen too much of this in
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  Speaker 2: the past. It won't stop the complaints or the legal cases.
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  Speaker 2: It'll just add another clause, another layer to the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Let's catch up now with Liberal MP from Victoria, Zoey
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  Speaker 2: Mackenzie joining us in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: Good to speak to you, Zoe.
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  Speaker 2: What do you feel about the Prime Minister's four point
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  Speaker 2: three million dollar beach house purchase.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, good luck to him and Jody. It's
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  Speaker 6: an exciting time in their life. That said, it was
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  Speaker 6: an exciting time for me this morning when I saw
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  Speaker 6: this news and I thought, Ripper, he's planning to retire,
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  Speaker 6: so when we're getting it. And then I thought, well,
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  Speaker 6: maybe if he's not retiring, he's just trying to get
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  Speaker 6: in before Jim Chalmers bands negative gearing once and for all.
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  Speaker 6: So maybe it's an investment property and he wants to
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  Speaker 6: put the architecture in place to negative gear it for
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  Speaker 6: a few years before they move into it upon retirement.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not sure, but I found it interesting. You know
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  Speaker 6: that he's buying a newsath West because right down he
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  Speaker 6: could get good for money down here on the Mornington Peninsula.
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  Speaker 6: We've got so many taxes courtesy of the state government,
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  Speaker 6: land taxes, through the roof a new airbnb tax of
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  Speaker 6: seven and a half percent. Basically, you can't blame him
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  Speaker 6: for choosing New South Wales because the disincentivization caused by
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  Speaker 6: the Allen Labor government down here is massive.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you'd get a plug in for the Mornington Peninsula,
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  Speaker 2: but it's two bloody cold down there. You can only
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  Speaker 2: swim in summer. At least up on the central coast
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  Speaker 2: you can swim all year round, but Seriously, isn't this
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  Speaker 2: politically blind death and dumb? I mean, shouldn't he realize
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  Speaker 2: it's a housing crisis and he doesn't need to be
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  Speaker 2: the owner of three properties at the moment and living
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  Speaker 2: in the lodge and care ability.
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  Speaker 1: He should have just waited at least until after the election.
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  Speaker 6: Look, the timing is terrible, but I am mindful that
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  Speaker 6: he's about to get married in December, so I do understand,
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  Speaker 6: and it is where Jodi is from. That said, I
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  Speaker 6: didn't hear him talking much today about people who face
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  Speaker 6: an extra twenty five thousand dollars a year in just
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  Speaker 6: principle in interest payments alone, not touching the principle or their
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  Speaker 6: average eight hundred thousand dollars mortgage.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear.
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  Speaker 6: Him talking about people who face prints which have increased
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  Speaker 6: by twenty five percent since he was elected. So tone
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  Speaker 6: def terrible timing. That's Edi probably thought he was entitled
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  Speaker 6: to some privacy and not to have it splashed all
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  Speaker 6: over the pages. But I think when you buy somewhere
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  Speaker 6: called Copacabana kind of asking.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you are asking for it. And it's not as
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  Speaker 2: if he's going to live there. He's going to stay
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  Speaker 2: in politics. He's electorate. He's in a city, Sydney, so
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  Speaker 2: it's a holiday house. It'd be no good for me
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  Speaker 2: that when it looks pretty specky. But it's the sort
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  Speaker 2: of place and by the looks of it close to
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  Speaker 2: the cliff there. If the kids hit a six over
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  Speaker 2: the back fence, you'd lose the ball.
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  Speaker 1: You'd never get it back, it'd be in the marine environment.
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  Speaker 2: Staying on the serious side of the housing crisis, I
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  Speaker 2: noticed that some of your colleagues are talking about new
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  Speaker 2: arrangements that would allow women, in particular single women to
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  Speaker 2: access some of their super to get into the housing market.
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  Speaker 2: Now that seems sensible, but why does it have to
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  Speaker 2: be gender based? Surely all people after a certain age
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  Speaker 2: other whether it's in your thirties or forties, we should
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  Speaker 2: allow people to access at least some of their own
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  Speaker 2: forced savings to get into a house of their own.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I think this is an argument that Maria Kovasik
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  Speaker 6: has put forward, and she is a powerful voice for
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  Speaker 6: the economic empowerment of women, particularly women who might find
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  Speaker 6: themselves in difficult circumstances later in life. So I greatly
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  Speaker 6: admire her for taking this forward. That said, Obviously, the
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  Speaker 6: difficulty in getting into the housing market is across the board.
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  Speaker 6: It's young people, it's old people. You know that we
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  Speaker 6: had Red Bridge polling out yesterday that show just how
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  Speaker 6: hesimistic people are about whether they can get into the market.
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  Speaker 6: And the main reason for that, my friend, is all
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  Speaker 6: about supply. Michael Suka was on the radio this morning
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  Speaker 6: explaining that we have now at the lowest number of
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  Speaker 6: house starts on record, one hundred and fifty eight thousand.
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  Speaker 6: Labour's plan assumes there's going to be well and truly
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  Speaker 6: well over two hundred thousand years. I think they prost
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  Speaker 6: one point two million in just four years, and they're
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  Speaker 6: running at this point four hundred thousand short. Their plan
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  Speaker 6: is pure fantasy. We're not seeing the homes being built.
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  Speaker 6: As I've said, we've got so many taxes down here
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  Speaker 6: in Victoria that it's a really big leap of faith
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  Speaker 6: for a builder to buy land and to start to
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  Speaker 6: build knowing full well that it's going to make a
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  Speaker 6: huge cost by it before you can get to the
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  Speaker 6: cfmuutax on top. So the challenging into housing is ubiquitous,
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  Speaker 6: but it's largely due to the lack of supply. And frankly,
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  Speaker 6: no one has confidence in this alban easy run economy to.
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  Speaker 1: Take a risk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the demand, of course, exacerbated by high record
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  Speaker 2: immigration rates, just extraordinary. Thanks for joining us, Zoe, I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate it. That is Zoe mackenzie. They're joining us from
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  Speaker 2: a Melbournelle Electric takes in the Mornington Peninsula, which is
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  Speaker 2: why she reckon.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a bad place to.
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  Speaker 2: Get beachfront property either, although we did lose a prime
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  Speaker 2: minister down that way many many moons ago. Let's he
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  Speaker 2: let's at least help hope that Albo is safe and
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  Speaker 2: sound in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go to the Middle East stand in
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  Speaker 2: war and international conflict. Just as in other aspects of life,
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  Speaker 2: it's sometimes the exceptions that prove the rule. And so
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  Speaker 2: it was on Sunday when a Hesbella drone attack from
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  Speaker 2: Lebanon struck an Israeli Defense Force base in northern Israel.
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  Speaker 8: Minutes after the drone came in chaos and casualties as
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  Speaker 8: soldiers raced to help the injured. There were so many
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  Speaker 8: hurts they were sent to eight hospitals that these sixty
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  Speaker 8: soldiers injured, several seriously and four.
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  Speaker 1: Killed a tragic outcome there.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason I say this is the exception is
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  Speaker 2: that this attack was targeted at soldiers at a military site.
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  Speaker 1: Hezbela are a.
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  Speaker 2: Terrorist outfit, Islamist extremists, jihadists hell bent on eliminating Israel
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  Speaker 2: and Jews, and they usually fire rockets indiscriminately into Israel,
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  Speaker 2: ranrandomly targeting any civilians, even school children like the twelve
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  Speaker 2: who were killed on the Goal and Heights in July.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying the Israeli soldiers are legitimate targets. They
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  Speaker 2: are merely trying to defend their nation, but Hesbilla usually
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  Speaker 2: just aims to kill anyone and the more the better.
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  Speaker 1: Israel, on the other.
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  Speaker 2: Hand, is targeting the Hezbala terrorists that have been firing
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  Speaker 2: rockets into Israel. Yet Israel's tactics have been criticized by
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  Speaker 2: the United Nations after UN personnel from UNIFIL, that is,
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  Speaker 2: the UN Interim Force in Lebanon were wounded.
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  Speaker 9: UN peacekeepers caught in the middle so they've been deliberately
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  Speaker 9: targeted by the IDF multiple times. In the latest incident,
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  Speaker 9: the main gates of their base in Ramya were destroyed
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  Speaker 9: by Israeli tanks before they entered the compounds.
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  Speaker 2: As Ever, when it comes to this conflict and Israel
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  Speaker 2: defending itself, the UN and the EU condemned Israel with
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  Speaker 2: extreme allegations.
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  Speaker 10: The twenty seven members agree don't asking Israeli to stop
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  Speaker 10: attacking UNIFIL.
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  Speaker 2: Now, these sorts of allegations are usually repeated in most media,
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  Speaker 2: they're seldom interrogated. So first up, let's look at how
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  Speaker 2: UNIFIL puts itself in a vulnerable position. It's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: get rid of Hezbalah and its weapons and terrorists from
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  Speaker 2: all of southern Lebanon, but as these pictures show, within
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  Speaker 2: meters of a UNIFIL surveillance post and base, there are
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  Speaker 2: Hezbla tunnels, and in these tunnels Hezbla terrorists store and
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  Speaker 2: the mass weapons which are then used to attack Israel.
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  Speaker 2: And far from targeting UNIFIL, Israel has been warning the
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  Speaker 2: UN to take protective action.
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  Speaker 11: The charge that Israel deliberately attacked UNIFIL personnel is completely false.
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  Speaker 4: It's exactly the opposite.
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  Speaker 11: Israel repeatedly as UNIFIL to get out of harmswell, it
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  Speaker 11: repeatedly asks them to temporarily leave the combat zone. Which
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  Speaker 11: is right next to Israel's border with Lebanon. Israel is
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  Speaker 11: not fighting Uniform, it's not fighting the people of Lebanon.
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  Speaker 11: It is fighting Iran's Proxyfizbala, which uses Lebanese territory to
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  Speaker 11: attack Israel.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, it's even worse than all that.
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  Speaker 2: It goes to the complete ineffectiveness at best of the
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  Speaker 2: United Nations and possibly their complicity. If you go to
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  Speaker 2: the United Nations website, you can see for yourself that UNIFHIL,
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  Speaker 2: among other things, is supposed to enforce Security Council Resolution
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  Speaker 2: one seven zero one, which has.
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  Speaker 1: Been in place for eighteen years.
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  Speaker 2: And under that resolution, UNIPHIL is supposed to help the
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  Speaker 2: Lebanese army in the south of Lebanon, between the Israel
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  Speaker 2: border and the Latani River.
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  Speaker 1: It's supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: Help keep that area free of any armed personnel or
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  Speaker 2: assets and weapons other than those of the government of
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  Speaker 2: Lebanon and of UNIFIL. That's the job of UNIFIL, that's
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  Speaker 2: the job of the UN to keep Hesbalah and its
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  Speaker 2: terrorists and their weapons out of southern Lebanon. Yet, over
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  Speaker 2: the past year, more than nine thousand missiles have been
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  Speaker 2: fired from this area. Into Israel, killing people, mainly civilians,
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  Speaker 2: and this area has remained the stronghold of the Hesbalah
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  Speaker 2: terrorists funded and controlled by the Islamic Republic of Iran.
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  Speaker 2: So as is usually the case, the United Nations has
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  Speaker 2: absolutely failed. It's imperilled the people of Israel and the
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  Speaker 2: people of Lebanon by failing to stop Hezbalah, failing to
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  Speaker 2: impose the UN mandate, and by clearing out Hezbala. Now
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  Speaker 2: Israel is only doing the job that the UN said
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  Speaker 2: it would do and has failed to do it. All
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  Speaker 2: we get is this blame game against Israel, even our
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  Speaker 2: taxpayer funded broad Last night, Paul Barry on Media Watch
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  Speaker 2: was again indulging his ideological biases, all but accusing Israel
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  Speaker 2: of deliberately targeting school students, hospital staff, and journalists in Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: If you're looking to blame anybody else for the tragedy
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  Speaker 2: and trauma we're seeing that is anybody other than the
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  Speaker 2: terrorist groups of Hamas and Hezbalah and the malevolent force
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  Speaker 2: of Iran, then the place to sheet home blame is
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  Speaker 2: the United Nations and the international community, because they have
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  Speaker 2: failed to prevent terrorists taking the lead in the Palestinian territories,
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  Speaker 2: that failed to stop the terrorists getting access to tens
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  Speaker 2: of billions of dollars in a foreign aid funding, and
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  Speaker 2: that failed to make sure that all this funding and
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  Speaker 2: all this global support is used for nation building there
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  Speaker 2: rather than allowing it to be used for jihadist obsessions
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  Speaker 2: with obliterating Israel. All this is so obvious that even
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  Speaker 2: in South Arabia they can see merit in what Israel
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  Speaker 2: is doing. This cartoon, reportedly from the leading Sunni nation
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  Speaker 2: of Saudi Arabia, shows Benjamin Netanyahu surgically removing the cancer
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  Speaker 2: of Hesbellah from Lebanon, Hesbella being controlled, of course by.
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  Speaker 1: Iran, the leading Shia nation.
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  Speaker 2: When Saudi Arabia has a more realistic view than the
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  Speaker 2: UN and the EU about Israel and what's happening in
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East, well then you know how far off
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  Speaker 2: track the West is drifted. Let's now go to Peter
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  Speaker 2: Jennings from Strategic Analysis Australia. He joins US live from Canberra.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Sir Peter. We're still waiting to
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  Speaker 2: see what Israel does in response to the Iranian attacks.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: You're speculating very strongly publicly now that it will be
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: an attack on Iranian, on Iran's nuclear weapons program, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: that if this happens, the the rest of the world
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: will indeed be indebted to Israel.
• 20:05
  Speaker 12: So Hi, Chris, Yes, I think there's a strong likelihood
• 20:08
  Speaker 12: that if Israel decides to attack Iran, it will go
• 20:14
  Speaker 12: after its nuclear reprocessing sites. That's the area that's making
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: weapons grade uranium. And the reason for that is because
• 20:22
  Speaker 12: Iran is probably somewhere between a week or maybe a
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: few months away from being able to build a nuclear
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: weapon itself. That's the judgment of the Central Intelligence Agency
• 20:33
  Speaker 12: in the United States, it's the judgment of the International
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: Atomic Energy Agency.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So Israel has one chance. Now it can.
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: Attempt to degrade that Iranian capability quickly or by Christmas
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: New Year, Chris, Iran will have a nuclear bomb. That
• 20:50
  Speaker 12: seems to be the path that we're heading on, and therefore,
• 20:53
  Speaker 12: if Israel takes that step, the rest of the world
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: should be grateful for that. It will stop, for example,
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: sound Arabia and Egypt and a number of other countries
• 21:02
  Speaker 12: in the Middle East from rapidly acquiring nuclear weapons themselves,
• 21:07
  Speaker 12: and it will keep the hands out of the Iranian
• 21:10
  Speaker 12: Mullers of an atomic weapon, which could see a nuclear
• 21:14
  Speaker 12: explosion in anger for the first time since the end
• 21:17
  Speaker 12: of the Second World War. We all need to be
• 21:19
  Speaker 12: on Israel's site in stopping Iran from getting nuclear weapons.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Well, and the complexities are of this are that, of
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: course Saudi Arabia and other Sunni states so on the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Gulf there will be very happy if Israel does do that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely they would.
• 21:35
  Speaker 12: And it's worth thinking back a year to remember that
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: one of the reasons why Hamas, it's thought, staged that
• 21:43
  Speaker 12: horrible attack into Israel twelve months ago was because Israel
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: and Saudi Arabia were probably a week or two away
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: from signing a peace agreement. And of course that suits
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: no one's interests in Iran. It suits none of the
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: extremest terrorist organizations that Iran funds and trains, but frankly
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: most of the certainly the Sunni Arab countries, that is
• 22:08
  Speaker 12: to say, Saudi Arabia, Israel, sorry, Egypt and Jordan, many
• 22:13
  Speaker 12: of the Gulf states, you know, they would rather see
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: Israel damage around's nuclear weapons ambitions, absolutely see a run
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: emerges the nuclear power in the Middle.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: East, Absolutely no doubt about that. Whatsoever.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Just briefly before I let you go, Peter, we're still
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: waiting for this action.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: What would be taking the time now?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Would it be Israel fine tuning the exact nature and
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: targets for its response, or would it be them negotiating
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes to make sure that the US is
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: satisfied with whatever their response is.
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: Probably more the second. I think they'll have the target
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: set down pat by now. What was very interesting was
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: to see the Americans sending in a very capable anti
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: missile weapon, the FAD, along with hundred American troops. Some
• 23:02
  Speaker 12: might say that's America's attempts to stop Israel from attacking Iran.
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: On the other hand, you could see it as a
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: way of giving Israel more confidence that they can attack, run,
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: and be protected at the same time. So I don't
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: think we can be very far away from a military
• 23:16
  Speaker 12: strike unless the Americans can find some way to get
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: Tehran to back down, and at least as of today,
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: that doesn't seem very likely.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: It raises the stakes too for US troops to be
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: there on the ground in the light of any year
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: further Iranian attacks. Thanks so much for joining us, Peter,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Peter Jenning there from a strategic analysis Australia.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: The whole world waits to see what next unfolds.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to take a break.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: On the other side of catch up with Suzio Brian
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and Steven Sennatiempe. We'll talk about the federal government talking
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: about a ban on debit card surcharges and also the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: premiers are under fire for snubbing the.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: King and of course the Queen.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Well, let's catch up with Susio Ryan from The Herald
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Sun and Steven Senta Tiempo from Radio two Double C
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: in Canberra.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Thanks both for joining us.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Stephen Holbo's got a tin here, hasn't he And in
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the middle of the housing crisis to grab yourself a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: beachfront property and over four million dollars.
• 24:15
  Speaker 13: Look, I think we've come to expect that this government
• 24:18
  Speaker 13: is tone deaf, but this really takes the cake. Four
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: point three million dollars on a beach house in Copa Cabana.
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: And when he's questioned about it, well, you know, Jodie
• 24:27
  Speaker 13: and I are getting married. Well, there's plenty of osings
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: that are probably putting off their weddings because they can't
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: afford to at the moment, there's plenty that can't afford
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: to buy a house or even rent a home to
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: keep a roof over their heads. And his response is, well,
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: I know what it's like to do it tough. I mean,
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: fenikm is this guy anticipating that he's going to be
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: out of public housing again because he likes to brag
• 24:45
  Speaker 13: about the fact that he grew up in public housing
• 24:47
  Speaker 13: and lives in public housing now and his way out
• 24:50
  Speaker 13: is to go into a four point three million dollar mansion. Look,
• 24:52
  Speaker 13: everybody has the right to buy property if they can
• 24:54
  Speaker 13: afford it, but in the current environment, this is just
• 24:57
  Speaker 13: really dumb politics, which I guess what we've come to
• 25:01
  Speaker 13: expect from this government.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's smacks of hubris and just political stupidity.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: As you say, let's hear from Albou. Oh susy, he's
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: never going to leave live this fun down is it?
• 25:23
  Speaker 14: Oh my god, that's just the worst digital imaging I've
• 25:27
  Speaker 14: ever seen, but very funny. Look, I guess the thing is,
• 25:32
  Speaker 14: I don't mind that he's bought this house. He's probably
• 25:35
  Speaker 14: spent about ten times his annual income, like a lot
• 25:38
  Speaker 14: of Australians have to do if they can actually afford
• 25:41
  Speaker 14: to buy a house if.
• 25:41
  Speaker 15: They can find one that is in that bracket.
• 25:45
  Speaker 14: He's probably a little bit more modest than some conservative
• 25:49
  Speaker 14: politicians we've.
• 25:50
  Speaker 15: Had over the years, but there's no doubt that to.
• 25:53
  Speaker 14: Drop that kind of money at this point in time
• 25:55
  Speaker 14: is a little bit tone debt. I mean, he's not
• 25:57
  Speaker 14: going to be living in it, so it's got another invent.
• 26:02
  Speaker 14: Don't expect politicians, Yeah, well, I don't expect politicians to
• 26:06
  Speaker 14: live and make the same kind of housing choices as
• 26:09
  Speaker 14: the rest of us.
• 26:10
  Speaker 15: But what they have to do is ensure.
• 26:12
  Speaker 14: That they take into account the fact that the rest
• 26:15
  Speaker 14: of us have just had twelve consecutive interest rate increases
• 26:19
  Speaker 14: and so on, make good policy. That's more important than
• 26:23
  Speaker 14: the house that he buys for himself.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: The other thing I hate about this purchase is the
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: fact that he got the copa Kbana because I don't
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: like that song and now I can't get it out
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: of my head.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: He should have loved Barry Matter. I wish he had
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: bought it at analong, but that might have cost a
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: bit more. But Peter Dunton is not getting into it
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: over and have a look.
• 26:46
  Speaker 16: What's the matter for the Prime Minister, But I wish
• 26:49
  Speaker 16: he and Jodie well, and they're obviously planning for the
• 26:52
  Speaker 16: next stage of life post politics, and I wish them
• 26:55
  Speaker 16: well in that the Prime Minister can answer questions.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: In life to it otherwise.
• 27:01
  Speaker 16: But the homeowners at Australia that I'm worried about it
• 27:03
  Speaker 16: at the moment of people who can't afford their mortgages.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And that's the very smart and reasonable political response. Just
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: make sure you see way to home ownership and the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: real struggles that most people are having. So Peter Dutton
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: on point right there. Let's talk about another big political
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: issue at the moment, that is the premiers not turning
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: up in Canberra to meet the King and the Queen.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Here's what the Victorian Premier, just Into Alan has had
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: to say about it. I have a number of existing
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: engagements that I have committed to and the government and.
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: The Victorian community will be very well represented by the Governor.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Susie, it reminds me of that old ad for lamb.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: You know that you can't go on a date with
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise because mum's cooking a lamb roast.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But I'm probably too old. You guys don't remember that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: But you've cheed off at the premiers in your column.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: You reckon just into Allen and all the rest of
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: them should turn up.
• 27:58
  Speaker 15: I remember that ad. I'm old enough to that.
• 28:00
  Speaker 14: Naomi Naomi Watt's talking about Tom Cruise, well, indeed, absolutely,
• 28:06
  Speaker 14: I mean the Nami Watsons in that ad that was.
• 28:09
  Speaker 15: Her first big breakthrough.
• 28:12
  Speaker 14: The thing is the state premiers to sound like a
• 28:14
  Speaker 14: miserable bunch. Honestly, I mean people who break tender dates
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: because they change her mind, come up with more inventive
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: excuses than the mob.
• 28:23
  Speaker 15: Oh I've got other engagements.
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: Oh got an election, you know, Oh we've got a
• 28:27
  Speaker 14: cabinet meeting. Who cares about a cabinet meeting when the
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: King is in town. He's a seventy six year old
• 28:32
  Speaker 14: who's breaking cancer treatment to come all the way here,
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: and the least that they can do is show him
• 28:39
  Speaker 14: the basic respect to turn up. And I'm a Republican.
• 28:42
  Speaker 14: I can't wait till we have an Australian head of
• 28:44
  Speaker 14: the state. But until that time, give our King and
• 28:47
  Speaker 14: our Queen the respect they deserve.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just briefly, Stephen, I think Susie's right. I'm a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Republican too, but this is the current system. You've got
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to show this Blanke respect and respect for the system.
• 29:00
  Speaker 13: Yeah, you salute the uniform, not the man. But this
• 29:02
  Speaker 13: is just a classic example of our politicians governing for
• 29:05
  Speaker 13: their Twitter arting for the echo chamber on Twitter. So
• 29:08
  Speaker 13: they'll get a few pats on the back from their
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: left wing mates and Republicans on social media. But I
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: mean the reality is the king, our King is here
• 29:16
  Speaker 13: in Australia and well not yet he isn't and they're
• 29:18
  Speaker 13: not going to go to meeting moment. It's just extraordinary. Yeah,
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: even trying to get a bait to the war memorial
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: when he turns.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Up there, Yeah, turn up, turn up with a Eureka
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: flag pin on your lapel. I do want to go
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: to the sad news that the broadcasting legend of George
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Nigas has passed away today, age to eighty two. I'll
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: get your reflections at a moment. I just want to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: show some snippets here. But here's a famous interview where
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I think he lowered his colors.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: He had his colors lowered by.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Margaret Thatcher in her heyday, but it was a riveting exchange.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
• 29:50
  Speaker 17: Why do people stop us in the street almost and
• 29:52
  Speaker 17: tell us that Margaret Thatcher isn't just inflexible, she's not
• 29:56
  Speaker 17: just single minded. On occasion she's playing pigheaded and won't
• 30:00
  Speaker 17: be talld by you. Will you tell me who has
• 30:01
  Speaker 17: stopped you in the street and said that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Ordinary brittons in conversation? But I thought you has come
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: from Belize. Oh this is not the first time we've
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: been here. Will you tell me who and where and
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: where Brittain's in restaurants?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: How many?
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: How many? I would say at least one in two?
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's an expression I've never heard. Tell me
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: who has said it to you?
• 30:22
  Speaker 17: When these these are people that we meet in passing,
• 30:25
  Speaker 17: but we raise question the state of their country with
• 30:28
  Speaker 17: them and they tell us, yes, we have a tough
• 30:30
  Speaker 17: part Prime Minister. But she's a little bit big headed.
• 30:33
  Speaker 17: She won't be talld by anybody.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Isn't this interesting?
• 30:36
  Speaker 17: Even the turne of voice you're using is changing from
• 30:39
  Speaker 17: what you used earlier.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: No, Maggie was terrific. But George nig has had it all,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: didn't these seas? I mean a serious journalists are seriously
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: good journo but star power as well, right.
• 30:52
  Speaker 14: Oh my god, I've just so I loved seeing the
• 30:54
  Speaker 14: tributes to him today. There's some of the clips of
• 30:57
  Speaker 14: him in the desert in the nineteen seventies in that
• 30:59
  Speaker 14: denim shirt all the way open with a chest hair
• 31:01
  Speaker 14: hanging out.
• 31:02
  Speaker 15: Oh he was sexy.
• 31:04
  Speaker 14: But he was also a very, very esteem journalist. And
• 31:07
  Speaker 14: who can forget that Margaret Thatcher interview. My partner and
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: I he's a journalist as well. We still quote that
• 31:13
  Speaker 14: to each other. We say, oh, somebody says, you know
• 31:16
  Speaker 14: you were wrong on that, and we say to each other,
• 31:18
  Speaker 14: who says that, it's really just amazing career side.
• 31:25
  Speaker 15: There we go.
• 31:26
  Speaker 14: There's the clip wonderful memories of George Nigas today.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I've used that in media training when I've trained politicians
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and others.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: To handle the media.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: This is do what Maggie does, hitting them down that
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: didn't get away with these these Let's have another.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Look at a little exchange here.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: He became a bit of an ABC lefty in he's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: latter years, of course, George Nigas, but as a journal
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: and especially in sixty Minutes.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: He was tough on all comers. Here he was with
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Bob Hawk.
• 31:52
  Speaker 17: I describe you as an ex boozer and womanizer X.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: The ex is definitely correct for both. I heard your
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: question and that's your anger. You take a lot of convincing,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: don't you.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well history tells us Stephen that George Negas shouldn't
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: have been convinced. Then his skepticism was warranty indeed. But look,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I want to give you another tribute to him. He
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: was a passionate supporter of Australian football. I used to
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: bump into.
• 32:20
  Speaker 13: Him every now and at this little cafe at the
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: Sydney Markets, and look, the discussions about football were a
• 32:25
  Speaker 13: lot better than his interviewed with Margaret Thatcher, No two
• 32:27
  Speaker 13: ways about that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: But he was always I won't I knew him.
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: We weren't mates, but occasionally we'd bump into each other
• 32:32
  Speaker 13: there and he was always generous with his time and
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: a passionate supporter of a sport that I love so
• 32:37
  Speaker 13: great loss and a brilliant journal from a time that
• 32:40
  Speaker 13: has passed us by unfortunately.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a big time. Those guys were absolutely stars.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: George Negas, Ian Leslie, Ray Martin. I bumped into Ray
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: on Friday out of cafe. He's still looking good, but
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: sad passing there of George Negas, thanks so much for
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: joining us at stephen as as you really appreciate it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: And catch you next week because we have to get
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to a break on the other side of that kind
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: of catch up with christ Tate.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: In the US, Bill Clinton's campaigning for Kamala spectacularly backfired
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: this week, Plus Paul Murray's going to join me.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about the latest on Newspoll.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Now, as you know, illegal immigrants and criminality here an
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: even bigger issue in the US than they are here,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and the Republicans have been citing some particularly tragic cases
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: to highlight Democrat weakness on border control.
• 33:30
  Speaker 18: Lencoln Riley should have been able to go on a
• 33:32
  Speaker 18: run in broad daylight without being murdered by an illegal immigrant,
• 33:38
  Speaker 18: but Joe Biden promised not to the port illegal immigrants.
• 33:41
  Speaker 18: Ibarro went to Georgia where he beat Lencoln Riley to death.
• 33:45
  Speaker 18: How many more killers as Biden set free.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Tough staff And while former Democrat President Bill Clinton was
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: campaigning for Kamala Harris, he was criticizing Donald Trump, for sure,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: but he made an obvious point about this murder, which
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the Republicans have quickly turned into a campaign ad.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: You got a case in Jeordan not very long ago,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: didn't you.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: They made an ad about it about it, the young
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: woman who'd been killed by emigrant. Yeah, well, if they
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: had all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened.
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: But if they all properly vetted and that doesn't happen.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I'm Donald J.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Trump, and I approved this message.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, direct words from a former Democrat president. And as
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I said to Christen tight in the US, Clinton has
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: actually delivered a strong message for Trump.
• 34:38
  Speaker 19: Yes, and that appearance by Bill Clinton has really angered
• 34:41
  Speaker 19: Kamala Harris's campaign staff. The democrats whole strategy when it
• 34:45
  Speaker 19: comes to a legal immigrant crime is to just act
• 34:48
  Speaker 19: like it's not happening.
• 34:49
  Speaker 20: And use their allies and the media to just not
• 34:51
  Speaker 20: cover it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 19: So Bill Clinton actually probably raised this issue of this
• 34:57
  Speaker 19: specific case with Laco and Riley to many voters who
• 35:00
  Speaker 19: didn't even.
• 35:01
  Speaker 20: Know about it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 19: Because these voters who would be at this event just
• 35:05
  Speaker 19: watch you know, MSNBC or CNN that don't cover these
• 35:08
  Speaker 19: horrific crimes, and.
• 35:10
  Speaker 20: Now they know about this particular crime.
• 35:12
  Speaker 19: But this election, Chris is starting to feel a lot
• 35:15
  Speaker 19: like twenty sixteen, back when illegal immigration and all of
• 35:19
  Speaker 19: the impacts of it were the main driving issue for voters.
• 35:23
  Speaker 20: I live in Massachusetts.
• 35:25
  Speaker 19: Even people here on the coasts are talking about illegal
• 35:28
  Speaker 19: immigration very seriously. The entire country has become full of
• 35:33
  Speaker 19: border states, not just Texas and Arizona anymore.
• 35:37
  Speaker 20: This is a big issue. I know a lot of
• 35:38
  Speaker 20: Democrats where I live.
• 35:40
  Speaker 19: We are getting very nervous about the impacts of illegal
• 35:43
  Speaker 19: immigration in Boston, which is obviously not close to the southern.
• 35:46
  Speaker 20: Border at all.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Incredible.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Democrat voters, the demographics there just of
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: course that Kamala Harris does very well.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: With female voters, not so well with mild voters.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Means there's a big focus on getting men to vote
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: for Kamala Harris.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: And this is the lightest that campaign. I find it
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: pretty hucky. I'm a man, I'm a man. I'm a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: man man, and I'm man enough. I'm man enough to
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: enjoy a barrel proof bourbon meat, man enough to cook
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: my steak rare. I'll tell you another thing. I sure
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of women. I'm not afraid of women.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of women. I love women who support
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: their families, women who decide not to have families, women
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: who take charge, and I'm man enough to help them win.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: So the only way I can prove I'm a real
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: man Christian is to vote Democrat, vote for Kamala Harris.
• 36:41
  Speaker 20: This is so cringe and just so demeaning towards men.
• 36:45
  Speaker 19: There's a reason why fifty one percent of registered voter
• 36:49
  Speaker 19: mails support Trump and only forty three percent say they're
• 36:52
  Speaker 19: supporting Harris. I suspect it's even lower than that for Harris.
• 36:56
  Speaker 19: But what's really interesting, Chris, is when you look at
• 36:58
  Speaker 19: different demographics, that gap persists. If you look at Latino men,
• 37:04
  Speaker 19: even if you look at Arizona, which is a big
• 37:06
  Speaker 19: battleground state.
• 37:07
  Speaker 20: I was just looking at a poll that shows.
• 37:09
  Speaker 19: Trump is way up with Latino men fifty seven percent
• 37:12
  Speaker 19: to thirty seven percent for Kamala Harris, and even with
• 37:16
  Speaker 19: black men, Harris still has the lead there. But Trump
• 37:20
  Speaker 19: is making huge gains in that demo, gains that we
• 37:23
  Speaker 19: haven't seen in decades, and it's making the Democrats very nervous.
• 37:27
  Speaker 20: But the reason why is obvious.
• 37:29
  Speaker 19: Men in this country are sick of being spad at
• 37:32
  Speaker 19: and the left just truly hates men. They wag their
• 37:36
  Speaker 19: fingers at them, they tell them they have toxic masculinity
• 37:38
  Speaker 19: and they should be more like women.
• 37:40
  Speaker 20: And it's just so off putting to all the men
• 37:44
  Speaker 20: that I know. So I'm not particularly surprised to see
• 37:46
  Speaker 20: these poll numbers.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why we see another paradoxical element of the campaign, really,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: because the vice presidential running mic for Kamala Harris is
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the side of Governor Tin Walls, and he's same as
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: being a bit too.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Soft, to be too weak.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So hey, he wanted to prove his credentials as a
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: as a shooter, as a gun and he went out
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to go Phizan shooting.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Seemed to have a bit of trouble with his firearm
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: though I have a look quite hearing.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: And it never fits quite right.
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: It never fits quite right, just.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Not quite right. How do you give him that?
• 38:19
  Speaker 20: Coming to what kind of done is? This was a
• 38:21
  Speaker 20: Burretta a four hundred I brought.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I bought it when I was shooting a lot of
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: trap because it has.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: A Yeah, he knew about as much about that gun
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: as I would Kristen to go over.
• 38:35
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean that looked like a high school theater
• 38:38
  Speaker 19: major trying to act like a manly man.
• 38:40
  Speaker 20: It just flopped terribly, and the whole.
• 38:43
  Speaker 19: Effort to portray him and also Kamala Harris's husband as
• 38:47
  Speaker 19: the new version of masculinity is not working.
• 38:50
  Speaker 20: It's the meaning and the only tickle.
• 38:52
  Speaker 19: It appeals to our liberal white women who are already
• 38:55
  Speaker 19: voting for Kamala Harris.
• 38:56
  Speaker 20: Anyways, And what do men want? They want authenticity.
• 39:00
  Speaker 19: I'm sure Trump probably wouldn't know how to use that
• 39:02
  Speaker 19: gun either, but he's not out there pretending he knows
• 39:05
  Speaker 19: how or he's some big gun guy.
• 39:07
  Speaker 20: He's authentic.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Men love that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 20: They want realness.
• 39:11
  Speaker 19: But the Kamala Harris campaign, they just don't get it,
• 39:13
  Speaker 19: and they hate men and they're just catering to women.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what though.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: The Republicans have had a funny response to Tim Wall's
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: out shooting.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Very y quiet I'm hunting weapons.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they wanted to know whether they're counting he's real
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: or fake. Just brilliant stuff. Just finally, Kristin, the big
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: news is that Kamala Harris. We know she's been on
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the cover of Vogue magazine. Again, that's the sort of
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: glitzy coverage I suppose in soft coverage we would expect,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: but the more surprising.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: News that she's going to turn up for an interview
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: on Fox News. Why is she doing that? Smart move
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: or desperation?
• 40:00
  Speaker 19: Well, it's smart because she needs an inflection point in
• 40:04
  Speaker 19: this race the VP debate a couple of weeks ago,
• 40:08
  Speaker 19: when combination with other factors have really tightened up this race,
• 40:12
  Speaker 19: and Trump supporters are historically underpolled. So if I were
• 40:15
  Speaker 19: betting right now, Chris, my money would be on Trump,
• 40:18
  Speaker 19: and I suspect the internal polls show an even worst
• 40:22
  Speaker 19: case scenario and even worst case scenario for Harris. So
• 40:25
  Speaker 19: she needs some sort of turning point here, and if
• 40:29
  Speaker 19: she can prepare herself well enough, maybe this will help her.
• 40:33
  Speaker 19: She's terrible in interviews though, so it also has a
• 40:35
  Speaker 19: pretty significant chance of backfiring.
• 40:38
  Speaker 20: But yeah, she needs some sort of inflection point.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good to say I'm over accountability SA. Good on
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: her for turning up for that interview. That'll be Thursday.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Australian Tom will be all over that. But thanks for
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: joining us again, Kristin, appreciate it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 20: Thank you, Chris.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Fascinating times in the US joining me on the disk
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: now is mcgreat Mike the wonderful Paul Murray, you'd love
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: to talk for our all that stuff and I know
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: everyone will get it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Ready nine o'clock and ready.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: So I want to get to you on two of
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: your other favorite topics. Let's talk about polling domestically. I mean,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I can't get over the fact that Albo has now
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: lost a newspoll.
• 41:11
  Speaker 21: There are three three things you never want in Australian politics.
• 41:15
  Speaker 21: One to lose a newspoll, two to go into minority,
• 41:17
  Speaker 21: Three to lose your job as the leader. We are
• 41:20
  Speaker 21: a third of the way down that road now, the
• 41:24
  Speaker 21: Prime Minister I'm in again.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: What a giant surprise.
• 41:27
  Speaker 21: Then in a week where he jokes about Tourette's the
• 41:30
  Speaker 21: way that he did in a week when supposedly cost
• 41:34
  Speaker 21: of living in front of center. Yet what were they
• 41:36
  Speaker 21: doing in the Parliament passing laws to protect the sale
• 41:38
  Speaker 21: of the NBN And again the failures in and around
• 41:43
  Speaker 21: everything you do with cost of living this guy and
• 41:46
  Speaker 21: obviously well talking about it with the House a bit later. Right,
• 41:48
  Speaker 21: this guy either has a turnable level death wish or
• 41:53
  Speaker 21: he is so full of his own supply that he
• 41:57
  Speaker 21: thinks he is so untouchable that even these moments like
• 42:01
  Speaker 21: the joke, regardless of how you reacted and we disagree
• 42:03
  Speaker 21: about that. That goes into normal world.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Right if M.
• 42:06
  Speaker 21: Radio listeners here that the house people who roughly brush
• 42:11
  Speaker 21: past the headlines will see that. And you don't have
• 42:13
  Speaker 21: much and you know this deep in a year after
• 42:16
  Speaker 21: the voice stuff. He doesn't have the buffer to do
• 42:18
  Speaker 21: this stuff.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Turnbull and he has Turnbull like Hubris in
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: my view, he thinks everything's going to be fine, which
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: is why he said this in February.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: We haven't lost the news poll since I've been prime
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: minis stuff. We haven't lost the news poll since I've
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: been prime ministuff.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hubris before or four. And that's with the house.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: You buy a four point three million dollar beach house
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: because you think you can now it doesn't even think
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: through the political cost. If you're a marginal labor MP.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Right now, you're furious at your leader because he's just
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: made it harder for you to hang on to your job.
• 42:51
  Speaker 21: Well, the only reason why it will not be as
• 42:54
  Speaker 21: devastating as other things that liberal politicians have done that
• 42:59
  Speaker 21: prove that they are not in the right moment, right,
• 43:01
  Speaker 21: that they're on the wrong side of something that they're.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Out of touch.
• 43:04
  Speaker 21: Is the majority of the media will just quickly move on.
• 43:06
  Speaker 21: They will do their best to change the subject tomorrow,
• 43:09
  Speaker 21: as opposed to let's get into this and who filled out.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: The form and who knew what and when couldn't we
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: organize a Barry maniload.
• 43:14
  Speaker 21: Tool a while a month to copa copa but also
• 43:19
  Speaker 21: some of his reasonings here it's like, look, oh, my
• 43:21
  Speaker 21: life circumstances of track, mate, You've got two mansions paid
• 43:25
  Speaker 21: for by the Australian public already, all right. The Central
• 43:28
  Speaker 21: Coast is not seven hour drive from Kirabilly. It's ninety minutes,
• 43:33
  Speaker 21: all right. So the idea that okay, great, he's feathering
• 43:35
  Speaker 21: his nest for an eventual retirement that he thinks is
• 43:38
  Speaker 21: one hundred years down the road. Normal people turn around
• 43:41
  Speaker 21: and go mate. There was a report today more than
• 43:45
  Speaker 21: three quarters of Australians in basically every state so the
• 43:48
  Speaker 21: only way that their kids or grandkids will be able
• 43:50
  Speaker 21: to buy a house is if their parents help them. Okay,
• 43:53
  Speaker 21: now that's all good if your parents can help. What
• 43:55
  Speaker 21: about the ones who can't. Another report today was about
• 43:58
  Speaker 21: food that now back to three and a bit million
• 44:01
  Speaker 21: people who are worried about the food that's falling on
• 44:03
  Speaker 21: the table. That's why it's a terrible decision.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Now, just buying his third house while he's living in
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: two others for free. It's just look, there's another issue yours,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: very knowledgeable and passionate about as this one that happened
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: on the weekend.
• 44:18
  Speaker 16: Down towards the final corner, one point.
• 44:21
  Speaker 14: Three seconds the gap and Bradie Kistecki has shaken off
• 44:25
  Speaker 14: the awkward start to the season to earn the.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Biggest win of his career. Brodie Kistecki is the clean,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: telling him, oh, mate, I know you must be heartbroken.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: You weren't there, but you were there in spirit, right
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: and victory.
• 44:44
  Speaker 21: I'm texting to Betty and Daniel, who of course run
• 44:47
  Speaker 21: the team, Barrye who also runs the team, and I'm
• 44:50
  Speaker 21: just good.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Luck, go chicko, go all the way through.
• 44:54
  Speaker 21: Normally I've had plenty of time to spend in the
• 44:56
  Speaker 21: garage of Erebus. I'm sorry I wasn't there, but I
• 44:58
  Speaker 21: sort of chose other mates another part of the country.
• 45:01
  Speaker 21: But this is your team winning the Grand Final, mate,
• 45:03
  Speaker 21: this is this is as you would be about the Crows,
• 45:07
  Speaker 21: you know, kicking it. I am about these guys. I
• 45:10
  Speaker 21: love Erebus, I love Betty Daniel, the team. I love
• 45:13
  Speaker 21: the story of the co driver, Todd hazel Wood, his parents,
• 45:16
  Speaker 21: you know, sausage, sizzls, selling sandwiches, all of that to
• 45:19
  Speaker 21: get him into a space to be able to become
• 45:21
  Speaker 21: a professional driver. This and look and you know, just
• 45:24
  Speaker 21: quite leap.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: They all love Scott News right.
• 45:26
  Speaker 21: They're our people. It's our team, and thank goodness they won.
• 45:29
  Speaker 21: I was I was just screaming, which is why you
• 45:33
  Speaker 21: can hear my voice.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: They are a great team. It's a great story and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: it was a great race. So I watched most of it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: It was fantastic stuff, just brilliant stuff. And I haven't
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: got the Crows are doing it for me just at
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the moment.
• 45:43
  Speaker 20: Come on.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: This time, I'm big. Get on board next year. There's
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: got Old Coast and Adelaide to come see. You're back
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. I love the chick.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I love the He's not only back, but it's winning bloody.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: After the break, I'll catch up with Tim Blair. We'll
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: talk about how the PM thought he couldn't do anything
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: wrong and how it's not really cutting the mustard.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Let's get some.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Common sense now from Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: joining us from Victoria.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Has ever goodness? Oh Tim, you picked a great data
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: where your copa kabana t shirt.
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: All of the Central Coast is beautiful. I lived there
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: for several years myself. But I've got to say, for
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: albows be moving so close to the water's edge. Has
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: he not heard of this thing called climate change which
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: is going to send send oceans rolling. All of Australia's
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: climate change politicians, in fact, just about all of the
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: world's climate change politicians end up with water views. Is
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: it because they want to keep an eye on it
• 46:46
  Speaker 10: to make sure it doesn't kill the rest of us?
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: Chris are very, very pretty suspicious.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: If their predictions turn out to be accurate, We're going
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: to see Tim Flannery, Malcolm Turnbull, Anthony Albanezy all floating
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: past each other out there.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Hanging on to their banana lounges.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: How you picked a great day today to colonize about albow?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: The heading is Cadley Albow now torn and tatted, Teddy Bear,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: walk us through your theory.
• 47:11
  Speaker 10: Well, there are multiple elbows, as we know, as we
• 47:13
  Speaker 10: saw in the previous election campaigns. Sometimes you get two
• 47:19
  Speaker 10: different elbows depending on where Elbow is on mining. For example,
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: if he's in Queensland, he's very much pro mining. But
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: if you locate that Elbow in say Victoria, where they're
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: not quite so affectionate towards things like, you know, making money,
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: he adjusts his views according to geography. So you've got
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: those elbows. You've got Hauso Elbow who occasionally lets it
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: be known Chris that he may possibly be brought up
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: in some difficult circumstances in the Housing Commission plant. And
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: I think, how's elbows now?
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: He's gone?
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: I think we've a raised He.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Tried it today, he willed it out again today. But
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're not buying it. We've heard it too often.
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, is how Elbow there now? And of course international
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: who hear about Elbow who loves getting on a jet
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: more than anyone, but mysteriously doesn't do it when it's
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: when the destination might be Israel, But he becomes all
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: very timid and shy Albow and stays at home.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you also highlighted some analysis from our own Graham Richardson.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Richo said this about Alba not so long ago.
• 48:22
  Speaker 22: I think what Labour's got is this likability factor with Albow.
• 48:26
  Speaker 22: Everybody likes Elbow and it's hard not to anyone who's
• 48:30
  Speaker 22: He knows that, so you know he'll he'll keep Labor's
• 48:34
  Speaker 22: numbers looking fairly good.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: So I'm I'm glad we've got him. Yeah, I don't know.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I think Albo is a good bloke one on one,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: but people don't vote for you based on that, right.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I think everyone's falling off in big time because he's
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: just so incompetent and.
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: Out of touch absolutely, and also political cycles operate a
• 48:56
  Speaker 10: much more more rapidly these days. So Richard's comments, which
• 48:59
  Speaker 10: were entirely the fabland absolutely accurate at the time. That's
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: just February. There's just you know, a few months ago,
• 49:04
  Speaker 10: and now we're looking at the situation where Alba has
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: lost his first news part, which is apparently a big
• 49:08
  Speaker 10: deal to him, and he will now try to downplay it,
• 49:11
  Speaker 10: of course, as politicians do whatever they tend to lose news.
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: But you know, that's just really no time at alls
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: the lapsed between those comments and now as we see
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: Albo not looking the goods.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great stuff Tim has ever appreciated, And just to
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: add to what Tim had to say. There's how's O
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Albow and International and Airbus Elbow. There's also, of course
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: remember big band Elbow.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: We do have some fun here. I'll see you tomorrow
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: night