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Muppet Treasure Scriptland - D.J Mausner · Muppet Fan Podcasts with ToughPigs.com

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  Well, shiver my Timbers and shiver my soul, because on May
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  12th, we're getting another live Muppet script reading, this time
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  hitting the seven seas as they take on Muppet Treasure Island.
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  As always, Tough Pigs is on board to present the official
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  Companion podcast, which I can luckily do on land because
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  genuinely, I get really bad seasickness.
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  Joining me, as always, is the show's director and producer,
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  and a good friend to us at Tough Pigs, it's Matt Wilkie.
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  Hey, Matt. Hey, Jared.
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  Hey everybody. And our guest today is a
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  comedian, writer and improviser who has appeared in shows like
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  Dropouts, Make Some Noise, I'm Actually and Dirty Laundry.
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  They also wrote the Hulu film Prom Dates and currently host a
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  very funny podcast called Conversion Therapy.
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  They'll be playing Spat am in the Muppet Treasure, Scriptland,
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  Scriptland. Scriptland.
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  Will their role get them sued by the spam company like the Jim
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  Henson Company? There's only one way to find
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  out. Please welcome DJ Mausna.
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  Hi, DJ. Hi that's me, the spam shell.
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  The spam are you, did you know DJ, that spam sued the Jim
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  Henson Company. I did know that, and I believe
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  that the case was thrown out because it's spelled SPA
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  apostrophe AM. For that reason, it's not
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  considered 1 to 1 is. That correct I, I assume so I
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  don't know. I think it's also just because I
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  think even like the courts looked at this and went, are you
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  guys kidding? Like move.
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  On, move on. Absolutely.
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  It's also free advertising. Exactly.
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  Yeah. Well, I'm very excited to have
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  you here, DJ. Can you tell us what's your
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  history with The Muppets? Oh, super big Muppet fan came
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  from a big Muppet family. I still have some of the
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  original VH s s of their of the Muppet Show.
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  Specifically when they put a couple episodes together for
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  like the Halloween episodes. You know?
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  Like I remember very distinctly the Vincent Price episode, the
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  Alice Cooper episode. I remember also as a kid
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  particularly loving the Robin and Kermit and you know, many
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  others of the Muppet cast doing Octopuses Garden and how magical
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  that number was with the puppets.
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  Because I remember being like, it was a lot of wides and we got
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  to see all sorts of things floating through the ocean.
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  Just as a kid I found that incredibly charming.
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  And then as I got, you know, more into my career as I got
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  older, I was incredibly lucky to write on a Nickelodeon show
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  called Max and the Midnights, which is kind of like Lord of
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  the Rings for kids energy. And some of the people behind
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  that were people who were part of the original Henson Studios.
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  So worked with Dave Skelly, Kirk Thatcher, who was the Co writer,
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  of course, on Mount the Treasure Island, as well as John
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  Stevenson and getting to hear their stories.
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  Every once in a while we'd be talking about something for the
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  show and one of them would go, yeah, you know, well, like Jim
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  always used to say, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  And I'm like Jim Patterson, you know, which was an insane
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  experience to have as a as a massive, massive fan.
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  So I feel incredibly lucky to be a part of this reading.
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  I've enjoyed all of Matt's programming and to get to play
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  spot AM no better character quite frankly in my opinion.
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  I mean, it's the best 1, so yeah.
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  How are you feeling now being involved in a script reading?
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  So you've seen the others? Yeah, I saw the live stream of
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  The Muppet Christmas Carol. I love.
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  Well, I mean, Matt has such an incredible way of bringing the
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  perfect casts together because you know, the the it's not
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  necessarily always supposed to be 1 to one, but I do meaning
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  that the character that the actor is playing is the actors
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  trying to play it exactly like the original actors were in
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  puppeteers and Muppeteers were were playing the character.
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  But I do genuinely feel like Matt has a great eye of like
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  nabbing the essence of the characters, which is part of the
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  fun. I mean, working the idea of like
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  Nina W as Miss Piggy, like calm, odd, you know?
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  And then obviously some of my other pals who have been in
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  other other iterations of shows like Ruha Tessalini, who's like
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  a human muppet themselves, a good friend of mine that's said
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  with love, of course, and Ruhan knows that.
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  Or Giovanni, you know, these people who naturally just kind
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  of like channel those like very, very funny, just so happens to
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  be appropriate for all ages. Brightness, lightness, but also
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  like wryness and genuine like point blank period hilarious
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  sketch kind of vibes. At least what I'm thinking in
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  the Muppet Showroom. And then Muppet movie wise, it
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  only gets better from there. Yeah, you're not wrong, Matt.
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  You've Matt, you your your eye for casting is impeccable.
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  Truly. And, well, can you talk about
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  casting DJ as Fat Anne? I mean, like, talk about a no
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  brainer. It was so, so easy.
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  DJ is someone who I've, I've been a fan of for a long time.
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  DJ and I got to work together once before on a a live stream
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  fundraiser that we were doing separately from the Muppet
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  script. But it was someone who worked
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  there, a good friend of mine, Langston, was setting this up
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  and we were raising funds for some anti ice demonstrations
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  and, and different things. And so like I said, we need
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  something to fill up this time. And so we're taking all kinds of
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  pictures. And I said, well, we couldn't do
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  a full script reading in this 15 minute slot.
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  So what if we did an improvised version of The Muppet Show?
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  And so we did like this really quick version.
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  DJ was the first person I reached out to because I knew
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  how great they were at improv and how much they loved Muppets.
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  And so it was our first time interacting and they came out
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  and they played Kermit for that show pretty much.
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  That was like the main they were doing.
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  Nailed it already. I was a huge.
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  Fan. Yeah.
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  And so when it came time for this next show, one of the first
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  people I thought of and it was just so fortunate that they were
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  available and so wonderful that they saw we're, we'll talk about
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  this a little bit, but we're tweaking the character of spam
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  just a little bit, as well as the other boards.
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  And when I pitched the approach to that, DJ immediately got it
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  was immediately on board and said, yes.
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  And this is how we can make it cool.
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  And this is how we can make it more inclusive.
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  And this is how we can make it funnier.
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  And their performance is going to be I'm, I already know, just
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  amazing and I can't wait to see it.
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  I can't we don't stop a couple of.
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  Days like we'll get to the balls in just a SEC.
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  Are there any other casting announcements you wanna make?
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  Who, who? Who else have we got?
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  Yeah, yeah, so, so this week we're we're kind of trickling
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  out the full announcements and some of them I think will be a
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  surprise in the day of as well. But we've got a lot of returning
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  favourites. So previously mentioned Nina W
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  as Miss Piggy will be back. And I love them so much.
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  I'm so excited that they're going to be around for this one.
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  And Nina loves doing the show. She absolutely loves it.
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  So it's wonderful that they're back again.
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  We'll have Mark Evan Jackson as Kermit and I love him to death,
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  but then we also have some new folks.
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  So our Fozzie Bear this time is going to be Betsy Sedaro.
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  And Betsy is super excited and and for this version of Fozzie
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  especially, it's going to be such a great fit.
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  We also have also previously mentioned Kirk Thatcher will be
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  in the show as well, so go away. OK, I'm just going to reach out
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  to him, but I didn't know if he knew about the reading.
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  And I was like, why don't you talk too bad first?
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  That's hilarious. I can't wait to see Kirk Kirk
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  televise. We have who do we have Kirk
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  play? He will be playing Mr. Billy
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  Bones and yes. Of course he will.
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  And you know what, As someone who's gone to many Renaissance
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  fairs with Kirk, I have no doubt he's going to show up and show
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  up with that costume. So get those live stream tickets
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  because that man knows how to wear eyeliner.
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  Let me tell you something about that.
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  We also have it's it, it was mentioned but I don't think
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  folks really picked up on it. We have a pirate icon playing
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  another pirate in our show. So in the role of Mad Monty, we
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  have Dante Basco, Rufio himself from and I think that's so cool
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  that we have like like it was like 2 years apart these movies.
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  And so to have such an icon of one version of a pirate playing
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  whatever he's going to play it as is going to be so great.
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  I love it, I love it and I hope someone just shouts that Rufio
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  during it and absolutely I won't be there.
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  DJ, if you can take care of that for me, that'll be wonderful.
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  Yes, no problem. I'll be sure to do that.
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  I'm sure he'll love that. Probably no one's ever said it,
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  no. One's ever done it?
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  For him. All right, Matt, So you said you
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  were going to tweak the pigs and the balls.
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  We're telling the pigs. Yep.
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  Tell me, tell me, what does that involve?
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  What does that look like? So the boars are a product of
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  1996 that I think really needed an upgrade.
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  We I looked at the script in the movie again and I said to
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  myself, this is not very friendly, this this portrayal
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  and it's just a product of the time.
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  It's it's nothing to insult the writers or anything like that.
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  So our version, we're going to upgrade it a little bit to be
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  more inclusive. And the thought process that I
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  put behind this was if the boars learned English from Miss Piggy,
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  and if we know that Benjamina Gunn, her mother was French, she
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  was going to come in from France.
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  So if she's teaching them English, she might have a bit of
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  a French accent to it. And so our version of Spam and
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  all of the boars will have a nice little French accent
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  instead of the little less friendly version that they had
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  in the film. Yeah, OK.
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  Yeah, the, the, I love this twist too, when Matt and I were
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  talking about the character. I'm Canadian.
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  I'm originally from Toronto, but I lived in Montreal for six
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  years. And so I speak some French and
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  my French is very heavily Quebecois accented, which is
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  arguably the gruffer cousin of the Parisian accent.
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  And so I honestly think it's a hilarious overlay for, you know,
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  Spam to be like, you know, this kind of like honking rounded
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  French that I think lends itself to the character very well.
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  So super amped about that change for the reasons of being more
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  accessible and for the reasons of I think it's going to be
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  hilarious. Yeah, yeah.
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  That's that's a fun little change.
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  And yeah, you're right. It probably it wasn't anything
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  that I really thought about until you Matt, you said to me,
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  I think last week that, you know, you're looking at changing
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  the pigs. And so I went back and watched
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  some of those scenes and was like oh in my 7 year old mind
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  when I saw this, this wasn't an issue.
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  But now I'm like I see it. Yeah, what what helped a lot was
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  so I was kind of toying with this idea and my wife and our Co
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  producer for the show Grace, we were watching the movie and we
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  were like, we've got Disney plus, we can change the
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  language, why don't we see what that would look like?
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  And so we changed the language to French and we watched the
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  scene with Spam and it was hilarious, first of all.
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  And then what that led us to was the greatest discovery, which is
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  that the French version of Muppet Treasure Island is
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  bonkers. And I almost want to say better
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  than my wife's. She this is her favorite Muppet
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  movie and she agrees. She said, I don't, I I love
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  Muppet Treasure Island, but Leo Treasure Leo de Treasure Dons le
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  Muppets is even better. And so the best best part
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  though, is that they're all doing it's not like a one to one
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  translation for a lot of the songs because they want to kind
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  of make they they're very aware of like making them the lips
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  movements match and also like making it a little more
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  accessible. So the love song is not called
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  love lettuce here. It is called Bonjour Lamour and
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  it is beautiful. So if you have a chance and you
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  have like the either the DVD or if you're watching it on Disney
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  Plus and you want to change the languages to French, highly
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  recommend that scene. It is really, really sweet.
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  That's incredible. I have to do that, being that I
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  think I would understand probably 90% of it.
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  You know, I'm like, I got to just watch it in French, no
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  subtitles, and just enjoy the movie.
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  That's so cool. I love that.
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  I love it. When do all the pirates laugh?
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  Do they laugh like. They.
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  Do chase bug. Like like you would think like
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  even in Shiver My Timbers, when it's like that one part of the
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  where you're getting where it's like that is in French, it's
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  like. Chanel, Chanel.
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  Yeah. Wow, I love that.
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  That's one of the numbers I'm really looking forward to seeing
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  is Shiver My Timbers, because it's unlike anything that has
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  been in any other Muppet movie. Yes, yes, this movie is really
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  like it's it's set and filmed like a musical more than any
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  other Muppet movie in my mind. And so when we were when we were
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  coming up, we have some really, I'm not going to spoil it, but
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  we have a really fun sequence that goes with Shiver My Timbers
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  in the theater that's really going to impress people, I think
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  all. Right, looking forward to it.
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  DJ, are you a fan of spam? Spam in general, yes.
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  I mean, unfortunately, these days I'm pescetarian, but living
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  in Los Angeles means that we have access to so many
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  different, like, foods in place of other foods for people with
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  dietary restrictions. And I believe it's called
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  Smorgasburg, which feels like a Muppet word of itself.
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  That happens in LA where it's like a bunch of food trucks
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  gathered. Sometimes there's like record
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  sales people and like, you know, selling vintage clothes and
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  whatever. And there's a truck that does a
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  vegan Spam Masubi that's so good.
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  So it's fake Spam, but it tastes so unbelievably good.
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  So in that regard, yes. And I also like, I'm somebody
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  who when I travel, I'm like, well, I'm not going to not eat
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  the meat thing and try it. So my hope is at some point to
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  like, actually get to a place who's making like Spam Missouri
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  or using Spam. Or I can just enjoy it.
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  Nice, lovely. You talked before about the fact
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  that, like, Kirk Thatcher's definitely going to dress up.
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  Umm DJ, have you thought about a cost?
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  I have there's elements of it that I need to keep under wraps,
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  but I want the costume to reflect one that changes we're
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  talking about to kind of the the the background and the accent of
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  the character, but also to reflect like the fun Muppet E
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  Nos. You know, there's something one
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  of the things that I really admire about The Muppets is
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  aside from how funny it is and aside from the star power of
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  bringing in incredible actors, human actors, aside from the the
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  the incredible and like kind of unbelievable muppeteering.
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  The puppets themselves are beautiful.
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  Like these are these are works of art.
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  These are characters that are so defined.
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  I had that. Well, actually, it was my
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  brother's. So I don't want to take his his
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  objects, but I we had when I was growing up that that big book of
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  like kind of like Muppet lore. And it's where Kermit is ripping
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  through like white paper on the front of the book.
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  And I remember distinctly just, you know, I'm talking about that
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  with the white paper and the he's like in the kind of the
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  negative space exactly that he, I remember just thinking his his
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  design is so distinct. Obviously it was turned into
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  like the Henson logo and even moving to LA and seeing like the
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  Kermit in that tower, you know, like that there's something
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  about wanting to really nail down like an iconic silhouette.
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  And I'm hoping to do that with with elements of my costume.
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  I'm trying not to be too vague, but I wanted to feel, I wanted
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  to feel equal parts in the world of Treasure Island, Muppets and
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  Pig. So take that 3 circle bed
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  diagram and find the center and that's where that's where I'll
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  be. Folks, this is exactly why I
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  love DJ and needed to have them on this show because you would
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  not get analysis like that from Ebony and.
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  I appreciate it. I mean, listen, this movie is my
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  favorite Muppet movie. I know.
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  Controversial to say, given that it's it's not necessarily
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  directed by Jim Henson. It is my favorite.
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  It was huge growing up. My siblings and I used to in our
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  basement do a reenactment of Cabin Fever where we'd have my
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  sister lay on the the table in the basement and then rise up
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  like this, like, and I worked kind of hilariously a couple
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  years ago, I worked on a cruise ship for for several months as
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  an improviser, as a comedian. And one of the first things I
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  put on a hard drive, so I had things to watch while I was in
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  the open seas, was a Treasure Island.
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  And we watched it over and over again.
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  And you know, the, the like kind of deep plot of all the rats,
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  like being on a cruise. They're like margaritas at the
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  midnight buffet. That line, like it was all of us
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  in our cast of improvisers was quoting that to each other when
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  we were getting margaritas at the midnight buffet.
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  You know, it's just what you did.
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  So yeah, I really can't wait to see all the ways that Matt Matt
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  sets up this performance to just sing.
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  I love it. Yeah, this is one of my
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  favourites as well. This is the first film I can
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  remember seeing in theaters. I don't think it is the first
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  film, but it's the first one that I can trace my mind back to
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  in a cinema that was literally 404 hundred metres.
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  That's me being Australian from my house now, that's now closed,
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  which I'm really disappointed about.
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  But yeah, I have AI have a deep affection for this, for this
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  film as well. And like, I don't know if you
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  know, but like in the Muppet world or in the Muppet fan
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  world, I should say this isn't a particularly well loved film,
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  which is strange. So I love it and I'm looking
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  forward to seeing what you guys do with it.
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  And I'm you'll change their minds, I'm sure.
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  Oh yeah. Oh yeah, that's that is you.
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  Know please, please, Matt. Yeah.
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  Oh, thank you. So I think a fun idea and I
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  might not do this, but I might like take a little poll at the
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  beginning and then take another poll at the end because I would
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  love to know if we if we truly can change someone's mind.
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  Yeah. Oh, totally.
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  Well, I feel like also, you know, sometimes that opinion can
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  come from Muppet purists who, you know, know them, love them,
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  respect them. And also the idea of being like,
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  well, you know, some of the more beautiful parts of Muppet movies
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  were like the ways that they essentially like reinvigorated
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  the medium of puppetry and like Kermit riding the bicycle, you
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  know, like things like this, like like feast for the Eyes or
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  like, oh, we're bringing in celebrities that ultimately like
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  are playing bit parts on the backdrop of a, of a broader
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  story that's set in an archetype.
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  But I feel like like something like Muppet Treasure Island
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  falls into the same category of Muppet Christmas Carol, where of
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  course, not only is it taking a classic story and reinventing it
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  with The Muppets, but I feel like there's not really anyone
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  other than Michael Caine in the Muppet universe of human actors
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  like Tim Curry, who just slots right in.
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  Like that is somebody who based in his career, based in, I think
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  his performances, like his being a music man, you know, having a
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  musical background. I feel like he is he's a Muppet.
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  The Muppets are him, you know, like it's like they fit so well.
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  And he's again, one of those actors that just makes you feel
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  like every interaction happening with a Muppet is between two
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  actors and not an actor and a puppeteer, which, you know, of
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  course puppeteers are actors, but you know what I mean?
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  Like holding the puppet into frame versus two people.
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  And I think that's part of what makes it so striking because he
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  he as a kid, I remember first of all the black spot section at
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  the very beginning of the movie being genuinely tear.
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  Ah, the black spot, being frightened so much as a kid and
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  then moving into meeting, you know, Tim Curry's character and
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  seeing how he interacts with Jim and kind of being this like,
• 20:36
  father figure and congenial, but then also this kind of like
• 20:39
  darkness lurking. Like, that's the kind of big
• 20:43
  world like focus on wonder that I think The Muppets do so well.
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  And anyways, oh, let's just say haters, forward your mail to my
• 20:51
  address and I'll read you a big long essay as to why this is the
• 20:54
  best movie ever made. Well, you know, that leads me to
• 20:59
  my next question. Matt, have you got, have you got
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  a black spot? Like, let's talk a little about
• 21:03
  the props that are coming up. Oh yeah, of course.
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  Yeah, we have. We have a wonderful, wonderful
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  my other Co producer, Missy Steele, and she is absolutely
• 21:14
  great at props. And so we're gonna have so many
• 21:17
  fun props. We'll have swords, we'll have
• 21:19
  flintlocks, we'll have treasure chests and compasses and and
• 21:24
  we'll have probably a talking vegetable in there as well.
• 21:29
  There's, there's going to be a lot of really fun stuff.
• 21:31
  Yeah, yes, absolutely. I, I in the beginning, I, when
• 21:38
  I, when we first started doing the shows, I debated how much
• 21:42
  prop do you want? Because you don't want to take
• 21:45
  away, you don't want to encumber the actors where they're having
• 21:47
  to like put things all over their bodies so they can pull
• 21:49
  them out for one moment in one scene.
• 21:52
  But there are some things that are truly iconic and that
• 21:56
  absolutely need to be seen. So if if you've seen our Muppet
• 22:00
  Scriptness Carol show, it's about that same level where
• 22:04
  you're going to see some some really fun props coming up.
• 22:07
  Beautiful. I mean, I know we're not a big
• 22:09
  fan of guns, but have we got boom boom sticks?
• 22:13
  We've got a couple of boom boom sticks, beautiful with with that
• 22:16
  bright orange cap on the front, so you know that.
• 22:20
  There. And of course, have you got a
• 22:22
  gong that you can just throw Mark Evan Jackson into?
• 22:27
  I don't know if I'll have you know, I got AI have to ask our
• 22:30
  drummer Dana Wickens if she has maybe, maybe we have a gong.
• 22:35
  She might have one. So stay tuned for that.
• 22:38
  Again, I want to see Mark just run at it as hard as he can.
• 22:42
  Man doesn't I need those. I've listened to the Good Place
• 22:44
  podcast. I need to see those limp limbs,
• 22:48
  Kermit limbs. Limbs smashing, Yeah.
• 22:52
  So look not to look too forward because, you know, we've still
• 22:55
  got this one to go. But DJ, is there anyone you'd
• 22:58
  like to pitch yourself as to Matt now going forward for like,
• 23:01
  say, Muppets? Muppets from space.
• 23:05
  Oh, that's a tough one. I mean, especially Muppets from
• 23:09
  space. I actually saw that a couple
• 23:10
  years ago with the other writers of that Nick show at the New
• 23:14
  Beverly Inn in Los Angeles. And it's such a beautiful one.
• 23:20
  There's not someone in particular.
• 23:22
  I mean, I feel like I, I have a, my, my personality.
• 23:26
  If I were to do sort of Muppets astrology, I would say that I'm
• 23:30
  a scooter son. Kermit Moon and an animal
• 23:36
  rising, you know, so there's like this very like
• 23:39
  perfectionist streak. I think I'm often like, let me,
• 23:43
  you know, lead us. And then the nervousness of like
• 23:46
  wanting to put on a good show and then just being an absolute
• 23:48
  freak is kind of mixed in there too.
• 23:50
  So any sort of roles in there I would be more than happy to do.
• 23:54
  I mean, it's also though, like the ways that I've seen, like
• 23:57
  the characters, the actors that Marcus Cass play, the characters
• 24:01
  that they had before, they really are beautiful.
• 24:03
  Like they walk the line between knowing how to hit all those
• 24:05
  comedic like Marks and, you know, genuinely putting on a
• 24:07
  good show. And then those really touching,
• 24:11
  touching moments where you're like you, you feel it, you know,
• 24:16
  they'll like keep on dreaming, keep pretending.
• 24:19
  Like when you see that, that scene in the movie, you're like,
• 24:22
  you know, you feel brought in. It's like a hug.
• 24:25
  And I, I feel like, you know, any casting that Matt's doing is
• 24:29
  the right casting. So I I put it in his very
• 24:33
  capable hands. Look again, not to not I'm in a
• 24:36
  fan cast here. I think you'd make it a
• 24:39
  thriller. I think you'd make a killer K
• 24:42
  Edgar singer. So like the the villain in.
• 24:46
  The Jimmy. Tambor role, I think you'd be
• 24:48
  wonderful. That is a massive compliment.
• 24:52
  I would love to play that role. And listen, I think there's no
• 24:56
  more fun character to play than an evil guy.
• 24:59
  Keep getting my head. Keep in the back of your head,
• 25:01
  Matt. It's.
• 25:01
  There, it's there. I think legally I have to ask
• 25:07
  this question to everyone who's ever been on Make Some Noise DJ.
• 25:10
  As I said before, I did rewatch your episode last night and
• 25:13
  loved it. Who were your ideal Muppet Co
• 25:15
  stars for a game that makes some noise?
• 25:18
  That is such a good question. OK, I'm trying to think of you
• 25:24
  gotta have Fozzie in there, right?
• 25:26
  Like I feel like also if I knew the Muppet Gang and I didn't
• 25:28
  invite Fozzie, it would be like, now that's just rude.
• 25:31
  That's this whole thing, you know, like you got a lot of and
• 25:34
  then I'm trying to think of like AI mean.
• 25:39
  I think because I love physical humor and I love stunts.
• 25:42
  Maybe Gonzo, if he's allowed to bring Candace's GF, you know, to
• 25:47
  clock around the set. Because I think those two are
• 25:50
  not only like, I feel they're, they're, they're kind of like
• 25:55
  Swiss army knife players in the Muppet Show in general, where
• 25:58
  they have their like core things that they do, but they've been
• 26:01
  swapped in and out of things like Gonzo being one of the
• 26:05
  narrators or like omniscient voices in A Muppet Christmas
• 26:08
  Carol or like Fozzie playing Fezziwig for the characters.
• 26:12
  You know, the character rather he's playing in Muppet Treasure
• 26:14
  Island to, you know, his stand up comedy persona.
• 26:17
  Though controversially, my favorite Muppet is Rolf.
• 26:22
  I think that he's an under sung hero, also voiced by Henson.
• 26:26
  Obviously muppeteered by Henson and I just feel we would need
• 26:33
  him behind the camera, you know what I mean?
• 26:34
  Or musical accompaniment maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:38
  I also think you could give give Ralph Sanskill.
• 26:44
  Oh my God, the connection between Sam and Rolf.
• 26:47
  You just blew my mind. There needs to be fan art made
• 26:51
  of that. Like immediately it just Rolf at
• 26:53
  the desk in a little suit with the glasses and the fight the
• 26:56
  fuzzer shut. Up that's.
• 26:58
  Really. That now I love that.
• 27:01
  Family, do it. Do it please.
• 27:04
  I'll send it please. I need it.
• 27:08
  Matt, remind us who we're supporting.
• 27:10
  Oh, I would love to thank you for asking.
• 27:13
  So for each show, as you know, we do a different charitable
• 27:16
  organization that we are supporting.
• 27:18
  And this time around I am so, so happy and proud to say that we
• 27:23
  are going to be supporting the California Collaborative for
• 27:26
  Immigrant Justice. This is an organization that
• 27:29
  utilizes coordination, advocacy, and legal services to fight for
• 27:34
  the liberation of immigrants in detention in California.
• 27:38
  I know I said this last time, but I'll say it every time.
• 27:40
  Fuck ICE and I cannot. Say that.
• 27:43
  Enough, yes, All right. So we are very happy that we're
• 27:49
  going to be able to give support to this wonderful organization
• 27:52
  that helps folks who are in these attention centers and need
• 27:56
  to be released immediately. So I'm very, very glad.
• 28:01
  Love it. How can people get their live
• 28:03
  stream tickets Because the in person tickets sold out in 3
• 28:07
  minutes I think you said last time.
• 28:09
  It was yes, yes, Grace always says make sure you say under 3
• 28:12
  minutes. She's there.
• 28:14
  She's like, she's like say under 3 minutes.
• 28:17
  Yes, we sold out in under 3 minutes.
• 28:18
  It was a wonderful crazy morning.
• 28:21
  But the great thing about these shows is every single one we've
• 28:25
  done, we have live streamed so you can catch the live stream.
• 28:28
  It'll live air. It'll air live on the same
• 28:32
  night, May 12th, next Tuesday at 7:00 PM Pacific Standard Time.
• 28:37
  It will also be available to view after that for up to two
• 28:41
  weeks. And you can get those tickets at
• 28:44
  dynasty.tv. Looking forward to it.
• 28:48
  Also real quick, I want to plug the coming very soon, probably
• 28:52
  within the next few days. I don't know if it's up today,
• 28:56
  but by the time folks are listening, this should be up.
• 28:59
  We will have on dynasty.tv in our our landing page our
• 29:04
  previous shows that haven't been up yet.
• 29:05
  So Muppets Take Scripthatten and Muppets Script.
• 29:08
  Miss Carol will be back on the website very soon, and we're
• 29:12
  also going to have some bundles that you can buy in addition to
• 29:15
  the live stream tickets, so check that out, dynasty.tv.
• 29:20
  DJ, before I wrap up as well, can you just tell people a
• 29:23
  little bit about conversion therapy?
• 29:24
  Because I listened to a little bit of it yesterday and giggled
• 29:28
  like a madman. Oh, I'm so glad you asked.
• 29:31
  Yes, incredible intro. Can you tell us a little bit
• 29:35
  about Conversion therapy? Well, how much time do you have?
• 29:38
  Conversion Therapy is a podcast where I play a couple different
• 29:42
  characters. 1 is a a male pastor named Pastor Toot Whitley, who's
• 29:47
  kind of like a southern gentleman with who's a reformed
• 29:50
  homosexuals he refers to himself, who works with Los
• 29:53
  Angeles's gayest comedians to help them convert from gay to
• 29:57
  straight. Sometimes that means enlisting
• 29:59
  the help of masculinity coach Skid Beef, who's kind of like a
• 30:02
  manosphere red pilled kind of man, or femininity coach Vanessa
• 30:07
  Fi Gap very much runs in this sort of like Erica Kirk, like
• 30:12
  women of the right realm. The podcast format is I assess
• 30:19
  the guests level of homosexuality.
• 30:22
  Then we bring in the masculine under femininity coach and then
• 30:24
  the third part we go air quotes six months later where the
• 30:28
  conversion has been successful and we interview the guest who
• 30:31
  is now successfully straight and they get to play character in
• 30:34
  and of themselves. The idea was born of thinking
• 30:39
  conversion therapy is so ridiculous outside of the
• 30:42
  experiences of my friends who have been in it and some of the
• 30:44
  guests who've been on the show or who will be future guests
• 30:48
  this season have experienced outside of the serious nature of
• 30:52
  that. It's ridiculous to think that
• 30:54
  you could change someone and and think that any part of someone
• 30:57
  that they are naturally is is wrong.
• 30:59
  And So what better way to do that than to lampoon the whole
• 31:02
  thing? And yeah, it's, it's fun, It's
• 31:06
  stupid. We have an Instagram account at
• 31:07
  Conversion Therapy Pod where I published some clips.
• 31:10
  But all of the episodes so far as of today's recording date,
• 31:15
  there are three episodes out can be listened to any place you get
• 31:19
  your podcasts. DJ can you tell people where
• 31:23
  they can find you? Yes, you can find me on
• 31:26
  Instagram at at DJ Mausner or most Monday nights at UCB
• 31:31
  Theatre in LA with Herald Team Dance Club Remix.
• 31:35
  Love it. And Matt, where can people find
• 31:37
  you? You can find me at that Matt
• 31:40
  Wilkie on Instagram as well and also you can check out the show
• 31:44
  page The Muppet script at The Muppet Script.
• 31:46
  OK. And where can people find you
• 31:48
  physically? Like what's your address?
• 31:50
  It is.