Latest / Behind The Village Podcast / The Hardest Thing I Ever Did: Saying No and Slowing Down | Risha Yorke

Transcript

The Hardest Thing I Ever Did: Saying No and Slowing Down | Risha Yorke · Behind The Village Podcast

0:02
You're listening to the Behind the Village podcast,
0:05
where we invite you to join us on a journey to
0:08
understand how to live a life worth living. When
0:13
Risha York moved back to Toronto from Vancouver
0:15
after university, she was running a theatre company
0:18
and working in retail management, both at the
0:20
same time. From there, entering the world of
0:23
IT as an office manager, where she shifted and
0:25
adjusted her way over to organizational development.
0:29
She discovered a shared skill set with curriculum
0:31
development and theater, which essentially boiled
0:33
down to storytelling. And because I'm good with
0:40
storytelling and metaphors and all those things,
0:42
I was able to teach 22 -year -olds straight out
0:46
of college, like, what a storage array is and
0:49
how that works and, like, why you need antivirus
0:52
and how that works and what networks look like
0:55
and what's that all about. And so it was a fun
0:59
gig for a little while until it just became so
1:03
intense. Like we were there at 7 a .m. every
1:05
day. I left at 5 p .m. every day. And I had to
1:09
schedule pee breaks. That's how busy it was.
1:12
Wow. Wow. And so even though I enjoyed the job
1:16
and liked the company, I just. I couldn't keep
1:20
doing this because I was also running a theater
1:23
company on the side, right? Like all this while
1:25
still running the theater company, which, you
1:31
know, at this point was paying me, but not a
1:33
lot, right? So I started to come to terms with
1:39
this, like, okay, something's got to give. I
1:43
can't be working 90 hours a week. This is going
1:48
to burn me out. And then I found out my mom found
1:51
out she had Parkinson's disease. And I started
1:54
to realize like the wheels in my head started
1:56
to turn like, oh, my God, I am my mother. I am
2:00
doing 10 jobs. I am doing too much. I am over
2:05
committing myself. And she now has a disease
2:07
that attacks your nervous system. Like, shoot.
2:14
This is me. Right. Right. So I started to really
2:19
think like, OK, I need to slow down. I need to
2:21
figure out how to slow down. I don't know how
2:23
to slow down. This isn't a thing I excel at.
2:28
Right. Like I like my plate full. I want to be
2:32
busy. I like to do things. I'm I'm a busy person,
2:35
but I'm starting to realize like health wise,
2:38
this is going to come back at me tenfold and
2:41
I need to find a way around it. Right. So I.
2:46
gave my notice at the IT company and everyone
2:50
was shocked. The COO took me out to lunch and
2:54
was like, why are you leaving? And she's like,
2:57
you're at the top of your game here. We don't
3:00
understand. Did somebody headhunt you? And I'm
3:03
like, no. She was like, what are you going to
3:07
do? And I'm like, nothing. I need... I need a
3:10
break. And she was like, what are you doing,
3:13
though? Like, how are you going to? I'm like,
3:15
listen, I just need to stop. I'm on the hamster
3:19
wheel. And for me to figure out what's next,
3:21
I have to get off the hamster wheel. Yeah. And
3:25
luckily, we had put ourselves in a financial
3:28
position where I could do that. Right. I recognize
3:30
the privilege that I had there. We were about
3:34
to get married. So everyone was like, you're
3:36
nuts. So you're saving for a wedding. And you
3:40
quit your job? Like, I don't understand what
3:42
you're doing. And I was like, yeah, I don't know.
3:45
And I had this really great therapist at the
3:49
time. And she was like, you quit your job? And
3:52
I'm like, yeah. And she's like, okay. How's that
3:57
going? And I was like, oh, it's great. Like I'm
4:02
getting so much done around the house. Like I
4:04
painted this bare bedroom and I refinished this
4:07
furniture. And she's like, uh -huh. So she had
4:11
my number. Like she knew I couldn't stop. And
4:15
she was like, so do you feel less stressed out
4:19
now that you're not at work? And I said, no,
4:21
no. I'm still doing all the things, just different
4:26
things, right? And she's like, oh. So we need
4:30
to slow down and start to talk about ways to
4:34
kind of like amp this down a little bit. And
4:37
then my therapist was like, yeah, I'd like you
4:41
to kind of ratchet down and we're going to start
4:44
by doing one thing a week. And I was like, whoa,
4:47
that's a big change. Y 'all, it was hard. I don't
4:56
even know if I could do that. It was the hardest
4:59
thing I ever did. I would love to do that actually.
5:03
Like that sounds really nice. So then she's like,
5:05
I want you to think about how you want to spend
5:07
your time. So you can only do one thing in a
5:10
week that like is a, is like a work thing or
5:14
of, of a task thing. Every other part of your
5:18
day has to be free and clear and you do only
5:22
what you want. Like you. You're not allowed to
5:25
give yourself homework or tasks. You have to
5:29
just go with the flow. And if you feel like cooking,
5:34
cook. And if you don't feel like cooking, don't
5:37
cook. And I was like, this is going to be impossible.
5:42
And she was like, just try it. And she said,
5:48
what do you feel like doing? Like if you could
5:51
spend the perfect day doing anything. What would
5:55
it be like? Think about a time in your life where
5:57
you felt so relaxed. And I laughed and I was
6:02
like, it would be so inappropriate and irresponsible
6:08
to go back to that point in my life. And she
6:12
said, why? And I said, because the last time
6:14
I remember feeling that relaxed, I was stoned
6:18
and playing Tony Hawk. And I was probably in
6:22
my mid 20s till like 4 a .m. Drinking bubble
6:25
tea. Yep. That was a good game. Right? Talk about
6:28
the game. It's such a good game. And she was
6:32
like, so do that. And I'm like, I'm a grown up.
6:37
You don't get to do that anymore. She said, why
6:42
not? And it was a bit of an awakening for me.
6:45
I was like, yeah, why not? I'm a grown up. I
6:48
have, at the time, no children. I just quit my
6:51
job. Right. What am I going to do with my time?
6:57
And so I literally spent two weeks like playing
7:01
video games and zoning out and laying around.
7:04
And then I was like. I was dying to get out of
7:08
the house at that point. I like I'd had my two
7:11
weeks. I was steeped in it. And then she said,
7:14
OK, now we're going to do three things a week.
7:17
And then it was like five things a week and then
7:20
it was one thing a day. And then she's like,
7:24
I really want you to start to focus on like prioritizing
7:27
these things. She's a genius. I still see her.
7:29
She's incredible. And it put things into perspective
7:33
for me. I was like, right. I'm trying to do all
7:36
the things and I'm trying to do them all perfect.
7:39
And I haven't had a chance to sit back and really
7:43
prioritize like what. What do I want? And then
7:47
I started to develop. this philosophy for myself
7:51
that was, okay, moving forward, it's lifestyle
7:56
first. It seems so simple, but it's so hard in
8:04
practice to put lifestyle ahead of work. It seems
8:07
backwards. June and I are definitely guilty of
8:10
trying to make our lives fit work first instead
8:13
of the other way around. So it's like the major
8:18
act of rebellion now is to rest and say no and
8:23
protect your wellness. And that takes time to
8:27
figure out, right? Because you have to figure
8:29
out what is important to you, where you're going
8:32
to spend your energy, and then set your boundaries
8:35
around that and be unwavering. And it's especially
8:39
tough, again, going back to what society demands.
8:42
And it's not just your time, but it's the expectation
8:44
that your time is not worth something if you're
8:47
not productive and making money. And that's a
8:50
hard one for me to switch into. It's like, no,
8:52
but my time raising my kids, that is worth it.
8:57
I may not be gaining anything financially from
9:00
it, but putting the time into my kids is just
9:03
as valuable as sitting at my desk. And I mean,
9:06
and that. also you know speaks to art most artists
9:11
are painfully underpaid right but they provide
9:14
the world's entertainment and so we devalue them
9:19
from a monetary position but in culture and in
9:24
the world artists are highly revered so what's
9:28
going on there right so this is where the conversation
9:33
started to happen in my head too i'm like wait
9:35
a minute wait a minute Like, I run a theater
9:39
company and the things I'm putting out into the
9:40
world, they're valuable and people are enjoying
9:43
them and they're fun and it's hard work. It's
9:47
really hard work, but somehow I don't deserve
9:49
to be paid for that work. Sometimes it feels
9:55
like an impossible decision to choose between
9:57
something you love and are passionate about or
10:00
something that will pay the bills. Risha felt
10:03
caught in that trap too. Burning the candle at
10:05
both ends, trying to maintain her passion in
10:08
theater and working full time. What was it that
10:10
shifted her perspective and how did she make
10:13
that change? Yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny.
10:20
I started seeing like how much my mom was suffering
10:23
with Parkinson's and I was like, OK. I really
10:27
need to not end up down this road. So what do
10:31
I need to do to protect myself? to get there.
10:35
And I started by making my New Year's resolution,
10:40
learn to relax. And that has been my New Year's
10:45
resolution every single year for the last 15,
10:49
20 years since I started it, because it's an
10:53
ongoing process. It doesn't happen overnight.
10:56
It's actually, it has to be a priority. In order
11:01
for me to focus on it and make it happen. But
11:06
I started to feel like it was funny. The first
11:10
day that I was like, hey, learn to relax. I don't
11:12
know how to do it. I don't know. I need to go
11:15
to an expert. I have to go to someone who's going
11:18
to show me or tell me or something. I don't know.
11:20
It's not who I am as a person. So I started going.
11:24
And again, I recognize the privilege here. But
11:27
I started setting aside money to go to a spa.
11:30
a couple times a year. And I was like, okay,
11:32
this place is supposed to make you relax. That's
11:38
their job, right? So I'm going to go in and I'm
11:41
going to be like, give me the works or the day
11:43
long, whatever. And I would go in anxious and
11:48
uptight and being me and trying to do 700 things
11:52
before I got there. And then I would disconnect.
11:55
I would be there. I would disconnect. I would
11:59
be present. I would be in my body. I would meditate.
12:03
I would parse information in my brain. I would
12:07
have quiet. I would have a moment to think. And
12:10
by the end of the day, my body was relaxed. My
12:15
mind was calm and still. And I was exhausted
12:20
because all of that stress that I was carrying
12:24
with me hit me like a Mack truck afterwards.
12:28
And I would go home and crash out and sleep like
12:32
16 hours. And I was like, okay, there's something
12:37
wrong. Like a day of relaxation shouldn't knock
12:43
me out for 24 hours. That's crazy. So what's
12:48
happening? Like what's actually happening here?
12:51
And then I started to realize it's a practice.
12:53
The more I learned to be present, the more I
12:57
learned to relax, the more I habitually did things
13:00
to bring my energy level down, like meditation
13:04
or weekly massages or even the chiropractor,
13:09
whatever it was, the more I invested in my personal
13:12
wellness and spent time there, the less I felt
13:17
wiped out by it and the more energized I felt.
13:22
And I was like, exactly. I'm like, this is working.
13:27
This is now working. I can see what's going on
13:30
here. And then I started to kind of roll around
13:33
that concept of, okay, so it's lifestyle first.
13:38
I can't sign on for a job that requires me to
13:41
be there from 7 a .m. to 5 p .m. I cannot do
13:43
it. It's not feasible for me. I'm going to die.
13:49
Like I'm going to die. No word of a lie. So what
13:55
can I do? What is my capacity? Right. So checking
14:01
in, constantly checking in. What is my capacity?
14:04
What do I think I could do? What would bring
14:07
me joy? What do I think would be helpful? And
14:09
then we started to talk about, you know, we used
14:12
to rent a cottage every summer and we'd spend.
14:16
you know, like classic Toronto people, a lot
14:18
of money to rent a cottage for one week of the
14:21
year. Right. And every time we went up, I'd be
14:24
like, I don't want to leave. And my husband's
14:29
like, yeah, no, me neither. And then I said to
14:32
him, how do we live at the cottage? Like, can
14:34
we do, you can work remotely and I can figure
14:37
something. Like, why are we living in the middle
14:40
of the most anxious place I've ever been other
14:43
than New York? Sorry, New York. But like, you
14:47
know what I mean? Like everybody's so high anxiety.
14:50
And, you know, like I think about our old neighborhood
14:53
in Toronto and people were just angry and in
14:56
a hurry and pushing people out of the way. And,
14:59
you know, someone's counting change at the counter
15:01
and the person behind them is like, take a minute.
15:07
Like, it's okay to stop for a second. And so
15:12
I said to my husband, what if we left Toronto?
15:14
And he never lived anywhere else. And he was
15:16
like, I don't know. Really? Do you think it's
15:19
a good idea? And we started to really think about
15:21
it. And I said, I think it's necessary. You know,
15:25
for us to slow down, to live somewhere that just
15:29
moves at a slower pace, I think it might be a
15:33
smart move. So we moved to Orillia. Nice. And
15:37
it's awesome. It is different. Yeah, sure. Yeah.
15:43
In terms of Orillia versus Toronto. Oh, yeah.
15:45
It's bananas. It's it's so much slower. People
15:49
are so much more mindful. It's very much community.
15:53
Like I lived in a huge high rise and I knew three
15:56
people in the building. Now I live in a cul -de
15:59
-sac and I know absolutely everybody on the street
16:01
and half the people in the neighborhood and half
16:04
of Orillia, frankly. It's true. Yeah. You know,
16:07
a lot of people. Right. And so it really helped
16:10
us build community, which is supportive and it
16:13
helps reduce your stress. And I mean, there's
16:16
article after article after article saying longevity
16:18
is supported by the friends you make, by the
16:21
connections you have. That's true. That's longevity.
16:24
Right. You're going to live longer if you have
16:27
a community and a support system. I have these
16:30
like cards I pull every day. Just as like a little
16:33
bit of an inspirational whatever. My friend bought
16:36
them for me. They're called Spiritual AF. And
16:39
it's like, it's cool because it's not one kind
16:43
of religion. I'm not really anyone that subscribes
16:45
to one religion. But it kind of plays with that
16:49
whole capacity of you write your own ticket,
16:52
right? And the message today is stop looking
16:56
for happiness in the same place you lost it.
16:59
Interesting. So it gives you that moment to be
17:03
like, yeah, there are moments throughout my day
17:06
where I'm like, why am I miserable here? And
17:08
I'm doing the same patterns and the same shit
17:11
that's making me angry and frustrated. Yeah.
17:14
And expecting a different outcome. Yeah. And
17:16
this is it. Like at the end of the day, we have
17:19
so much control. But we're taught we have none.
17:26
But we have so much control. You just have to
17:29
say no. And what a powerful word that is, right?
17:35
To just be in so much control by just saying
17:39
no more, right? Yeah. And it's funny, like my
17:42
husband and I, when we first met, used to have
17:44
this fight because I'd be like, oh, we have to
17:45
go to this thing. And he's like, why? And I'm
17:47
like, well, it's expected of us. Like we're meant
17:50
to be there. We've been invited. It's just good
17:53
manners. And he's like, I don't want to do that.
17:55
And I'd be like. I'm sorry. What makes you think
17:57
you get to say you don't want to do that? Like
17:59
we're going. It's the polite thing to do. And
18:01
he's like, yeah, I'm not going. And in my mind,
18:04
I was like, who taught you you're allowed to
18:07
do this? I was taught you go. Yeah. The expectation
18:12
you show up. And. And that was like a learning
18:16
moment for me, too, because I was like, wait
18:19
a minute. And I started asking all the other
18:20
men because I hung out with mostly men. I started
18:23
asking all the other men in my life, like, if
18:25
you don't want to go somewhere, do you go? And
18:26
they're like, no. You're like, what do you mean
18:30
you just don't go? I was in shock. I was like,
18:36
wait a minute. What? I don't have to go places
18:40
I don't want to go. Yeah. Okay. Who knows? That's
18:48
great. So now when someone's like, do you want
18:51
to go to this? I'm like, do I want to go to this?
18:55
No. Or yeah, I'm excited about going to that.
19:02
That's awesome. Yeah, it's funny because it seems
19:06
so obvious and so simple, right? But then you're
19:10
like, but really? Oh, I mean, look, we could
19:13
talk about feminist theory forever, but women
19:15
have been done a disservice. Like we have been
19:19
taught to toe the line and do the thing and pick
19:22
up the pieces and fill in for everybody's shortfalls.
19:26
And I am not disparaging men at all. They were
19:29
taught different things. But we were taught to
19:33
just make it work, make it all work. Figure it
19:37
out. It's tough because there are days where
19:41
like I don't have the energy to make it work.
19:44
And that's kind of an unfair burden to put on
19:48
me. Yeah. And so, you know, in a real partnership,
19:53
which I like to believe my husband and I have,
19:56
I can say today's not my make it work day. Today's
19:59
your make it work day. Or. today's oh we both
20:04
give up and order pizza day that's okay too valid
20:07
yeah also valid yeah exactly right and it's like
20:11
giving yourself permission to do what you need
20:15
to do to keep your cup full to make the decisions
20:19
that are right for you to to block out that external
20:22
influence that you were talking about June right
20:24
where it's like am I doing this for me or for
20:26
someone else or because someone suggested you
20:30
got to check in with you After making such a
20:37
big change, what kinds of beliefs and routines
20:40
does she have to support her thinking and keep
20:43
her from returning to those past patterns? Another
20:48
simple but completely eye -opening way to start
20:51
approaching a big change in life. As a self -proclaimed
20:56
recovering people pleaser, I struggle with saying
20:58
no and putting my own wants and needs above someone
21:01
else's. I find that really, really tough. I wanted
21:06
to dive into our needs as people, self -discovery,
21:09
and the role they play in balancing life. I feel
21:15
like the biggest thing that people don't realize
21:17
is how much control they actually have. So, you
21:22
know, a lot of it comes down to boundaries. If
21:25
you're not checking in with yourself, understanding
21:28
your capacity, understanding what you need to
21:31
fill your bucket, then you have nowhere to start.
21:34
to set those boundaries. So you have to have
21:39
really good knowledge of self. And then the next
21:41
step beyond that is, okay, now I'm going to set
21:45
my goals and set my boundaries and understand
21:49
the direction I'm headed and keep, you know,
21:54
correcting course. If I get off course, it's
21:57
not. a moment to beat myself up and be like,
22:00
see, I can't work out. I'm not a gym person.
22:03
It's like, no, no, no, no. Like you missed a
22:05
few days, right? Just go back tomorrow. It's
22:09
all good. We don't need to be so hard on ourselves.
22:13
And I think that's the hardest part for people.
22:19
Yeah. Can someone, you know, this question just
22:25
came up for me is like, do you think someone
22:27
can actually achieve that perfect balance, if
22:32
you will, of work life of, you know, however
22:35
that shakes out? You got to think of it like
22:38
this way. Work life balance is sort of like dealing
22:42
with the water levels of a river. Sometimes they're
22:46
high and sometimes they're low. When they're
22:50
low, like take advantage and spend that extra
22:53
time in your personal life. And when they're
22:56
high, you know, set some boundaries so that you
22:59
don't drown. Right. It's it's sort of there's
23:03
no perfect balance. Nothing's going to be 50
23:05
50. But I would say if you are healthy and you
23:10
are focusing on your wellness and you are not
23:13
so stressed out that you want to like check yourself
23:16
into the psychiatric ward. you're probably in
23:19
good shape, right? You just have to keep feeding
23:24
yourself, nurturing yourself so that you feel
23:29
that you have the capacity to handle what comes,
23:32
right? And part of that is resilience because
23:36
you're going to get knocked down, right? And
23:39
sometimes it's going to feel like it's not a
23:41
river, it's a waterfall. Those days suck. Right.
23:46
There's no removing pain from your life. There's
23:49
no removing hardship. This is just how life goes.
23:53
We're on an ever running roller coaster. However,
23:57
the dips can be shallower. Right. The ebb and
24:05
flow can be lighter if we allow for it and we
24:09
are flexible. Is that how someone would be able
24:13
to tell if they're going in the right direction?
24:15
If someone thinks like, oh, I'm working too much
24:18
or I'm not working enough, whatever extreme they
24:20
are and want to correct the ship, how do they
24:24
know that they're going in the right direction?
24:25
Is all of a sudden things aren't or the hard
24:29
things aren't as hard and the good things are
24:31
better? How would you figure out? It's really
24:36
about like, okay, how do I invest my time in
24:39
self -care? How do I invest my time in finding
24:42
the things outside of work that give me, you
24:48
know, motivation, excite me, want me, you know,
24:51
like I love to sing. I'm not the best singer,
24:55
but I love to sing. So if someone's like, oh,
24:58
we're doing karaoke, like I'm there. Right? It
25:02
fills my bucket. I love to do it. It's so fun
25:06
for me. There's like a release in it for me.
25:09
And, you know, I'm going to give a shout out
25:12
to Brett at Revolution, Choir Revolution, because
25:15
he's incredible. And, you know, you leave there
25:17
full of joy. So how do I find those moments in
25:22
life where I leave somewhere or end a process
25:25
of something where I am full of joy? that's how
25:31
you know it's working, right? When you can actually
25:34
be like, oh my God, I'm so blissfully happy in
25:38
this moment. It's not going to last forever because
25:40
that's not how the world works. But moments of
25:45
joy, the more you find them and the more gratitude
25:49
you have for them, because gratitude's huge.
25:51
If you're not grateful for the joy and the beautiful
25:54
things that exist for you, you're just going
25:57
to be miserable. Right. Of course. Yeah. Right.
26:00
So finding those gratitude moments, too, to be
26:03
like, wow, I'm so grateful that I'm here right
26:07
now and I'm drinking out of my favorite coffee
26:10
cup. And, you know, I'm having a moment to myself
26:13
in this peace and quiet and I can hear my own
26:16
thoughts. And I'm grateful for that. It rewires
26:21
your brain. Literally just 10 minutes of silence.
26:27
can make me a different human being. Happiness
26:31
is a loaded term. Everybody's searching for happiness.
26:38
But I like to reframe it more as like those moments
26:41
of joy because I think that we can find ourselves
26:44
in those moments of joy and then sit in gratitude
26:47
in them. Right? And it's euphoric. It creates
26:56
a thing in your brain. All the good chemicals
26:58
are being released. And your brain's like, oh,
27:02
I can't believe I'm here right now. I mean, I
27:05
think a lot of people have had that experience
27:07
in their life where they're like, I can't believe
27:09
I'm here right now. And it can be something as
27:12
simple as you're with your two best friends around
27:15
a campfire. Yeah. And it can be something as
27:19
crazy as I'm on the top of the Eiffel Tower.
27:24
Right. And everything in between. So it's sort
27:29
of like pinpointing those moments and being like,
27:31
oh, I need to be here. I need to be here and
27:34
present in this moment and really appreciating
27:37
it, because that is the other thing with work
27:40
life balance is being present. Because if you're
27:45
in the past. that's linked to depression. If
27:49
you're dwelling on things in the past, that's
27:51
linked to depression. If you're dwelling on things
27:53
in the future, that's linked to anxiety. There's
27:56
my problem. That's what it is. You're not alone.
28:01
Right? So if we're in either of those places,
28:05
then we're having a hard time focusing if we're
28:08
present. Right here. Yeah. I'm right here. right
28:13
now i'm mindful about what's happening to me
28:15
right here right now there's a great exercise
28:19
actually if you take a raisin and put it in your
28:21
mouth and mindfully eat the raisin and feel all
28:23
the ridges and like it creates a moment of being
28:28
extremely present And it's interesting to notice
28:35
how your body reacts to that because it's like
28:38
a huge shift when we're anxious. Often we're
28:41
like all uptight, our shoulders are up by our
28:44
ears and we're, you know, jittery. And when we're
28:49
present, it's almost like a release. Yeah, I
28:53
totally get that. There's a meditation that I
28:55
like to do where you imagine shining a spotlight
28:59
on different parts of your body. And then just
29:02
thinking about what is that body, that part feeling
29:06
right now? Like, you know, my back, what is it
29:09
feeling? The air? Is it feeling the back of the
29:11
chair? Is it feeling, you know, there's clothes
29:13
in the middle? Like, what is it that it's feeling?
29:16
And just, again, the idea of being present, like
29:18
it really focuses inward and it really changes
29:21
your perspective. My hack for the next step beyond
29:25
that is I pick six words. That really means something
29:30
to me. And I meditate on the word. So I'll sit
29:37
and be like, health. Health. What does health
29:43
mean to me? And feel that in my body. What color
29:47
is health? How does my body feel? What parts
29:51
of my body feel healthy? And I'll take like five,
29:54
ten minutes per word. Not usually timed, but.
29:58
Sometimes timed. And I'll just focus on the word
30:04
and the word itself brings up thoughts. And you're
30:08
really just sort of people are like, oh, you're
30:11
supposed to turn your brain off when you meditate.
30:14
No, you're supposed to allow thoughts to come
30:17
and go. That's the training. Yeah. It's not a
30:22
big black screen in there. You're never getting
30:24
that. Right. But you're supposed to allow things
30:28
to come and go. And so for me, you know, visualizing
30:32
things, I'll visualize like those 1970s block
30:36
letters from Sesame Street, like nice health.
30:40
Right. And I'm like, what color is it and what's
30:43
the font and how big are the letters? And I'll
30:47
really think about what the purpose of that word
30:49
is and how it feels to me and how I interpret
30:52
it and how it's portrayed to me. That gives me
30:56
something to think about, but something that's
31:01
also filling my bucket and helping me understand
31:03
something that's important to me. Right? So I'll
31:08
do like health, wealth, kindness, happiness,
31:12
peace, and love. Those are my words. With Risha,
31:20
our conversations are always fantastic. There's
31:23
always so much to take away and I absolutely
31:25
love hearing her perspective and hearing how
31:28
she thinks about the world around her. I appreciate
31:31
the information and perspective she shared and
31:33
I can't wait to chat with her again soon. Thank
31:36
you for listening to the entire episode. All
31:38
the links and info you heard in this conversation
31:40
will be featured in the show notes on our website.
31:43
If you'd like to know more about anything we
31:44
mentioned in this episode, make sure to check
31:46
villagermagazine .ca slash podcast. If you enjoyed
31:50
this episode, please leave us a review on Apple
31:52
Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you're listening
31:55
from. If you'd like to help this podcast grow,
31:57
consider subscribing to our podcast channels
31:59
like YouTube or Spotify so you never miss an
32:02
episode. Thanks again and I'll see you next time.