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Patriots Draft Countdown: Scouting College Defensive Lineman, Edges and Linebackers, Latest News and Mock Drafts · Patriots Unfiltered

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Speaker 1: We're back with another episode of Patriots Draft Countdown presented
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Speaker 1: the latest mock drafts, and some.
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Speaker 2: News from the owner's meetings. Let's do it.
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Speaker 3: We're the thirty.
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Speaker 4: First gigs the New England Patriots.
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Speaker 2: Guys, just a few weeks here to go. We're counting
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Speaker 2: down to the draft.
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Speaker 5: Not a ton of.
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Speaker 1: News this week, but ev let's start with us. We
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Speaker 1: put out our mock drafts. I think we were pretty great,
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Speaker 1: weren't they.
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Speaker 5: I thought I nailed it. I mean, I don't know
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Speaker 5: about you, but you know, I thought it was pretty good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
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Speaker 5: I took the supposedly if if the Patriots get Aj
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Speaker 5: Brown trade route. My second one will be if they
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Speaker 5: don't get Aj Brown in that direction. But the more
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Speaker 5: I thought about it, the more I thought it did
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Speaker 5: make some sense to take that tackle there at the
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Speaker 5: top of the first round. Whether it's you know, Morgan
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Speaker 5: Moses successor will Cam insurance, whichever way you want to
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Speaker 5: look at it. I do think it makes a little
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Speaker 5: bit of sense there, just because of the depth of
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Speaker 5: the positions and go find those edgreshers and those guys
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Speaker 5: on day two early day three. But the tackles, there's
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Speaker 5: a gap. There's a drop off pretty significantly after the
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Speaker 5: first round.
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Speaker 3: Guys.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that I went with the edge.
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Speaker 1: Paul and we talked in this episode here today we
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Speaker 1: got a giant We're talking tech, defensive tackles, defensive ends
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Speaker 1: as well as linebackers, all kinds of positions in the
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Speaker 1: need that we could probably consider for the Patriots.
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Speaker 6: Maybe.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, edge to me is at the top of the list.
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Speaker 3: I really want a wide receiver too, But in terms
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Speaker 3: of the probably the biggest need on the roster would
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Speaker 3: be on the edge. And you know, stay tuned because
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Speaker 3: we're going to get a lot of guys mentioned and
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Speaker 3: a lot of guys you know, Evan is going to
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Speaker 3: go into great detail on But it is a pretty
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Speaker 3: deep class and I think that's that's exciting when when
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Speaker 3: the needs sort of line up with the availability.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we have Chris Matisa gonna break down.
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Speaker 6: Evan and Iesmock were reviewed both at ther drafts and
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Speaker 6: we each a three round block that both a differenthilosophies,
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Speaker 6: but both were interesting. So we reviewed both of your guys.
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Speaker 6: We did a three round monck.
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Speaker 2: Was your what was your philosophy in your three round monket?
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Speaker 6: I was closer to you, Douce. That's why I don't
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Speaker 6: want to spoil it. But let's just say Chris had
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Speaker 6: a sleeper pick coming at the second round, which I
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Speaker 6: thought was interesting. So you'll probably talk about it more
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Speaker 6: on the front.
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Speaker 5: Try to do that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's just a little bit of news that
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Speaker 1: we heard from Mike Frable down at the owners meetings.
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Speaker 1: We talked to Mike Rabel again mentioned the tight end group.
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Speaker 1: So I think we all need to if you're watching
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Speaker 1: this show, you got to be aware of this tight
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Speaker 1: end group.
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Speaker 2: Seems like he loves them. He wants all of them apparently.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he wants all the tight ends. I think he
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Speaker 5: said he'd take nine if he could out of eleven picks.
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Speaker 3: So go do a mock.
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Speaker 5: Draft now of just tight ends through all eleven picks
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Speaker 5: that they have in the draft, and you might get
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Speaker 5: it at get it right. I Yeah, Look, it's a
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Speaker 5: great group. You know, we all know Kenyon Sadik is
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Speaker 5: the number one guy there at the top, and then
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Speaker 5: there's a cluster of players on day two, and then
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Speaker 5: there's another mini cluster in early day three. And I
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Speaker 5: think that's going to be the toughest part is you know,
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Speaker 5: it's like going to the ice cream shop and picking
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Speaker 5: your favorite flavor of tight end here, but not all
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Speaker 5: of them are going to be good, so you got
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Speaker 5: to get it right, you know, you got to pick
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Speaker 5: the right one. So that's going to be the toughest
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Speaker 5: part of the thing for them, And that's what ray
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Speaker 5: Will mentioned. You know, there's some guys you know, I'll
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Speaker 5: just put names to it. Eli Stower is more of
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Speaker 5: like a receiving tight end. You know. Sam Roush has
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Speaker 5: the size and the blocking ability, and like which one
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Speaker 5: do you gravitate towards? Is gonna ultimately decide which one
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Speaker 5: they take. So very good to sit here and say, oh,
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Speaker 5: well take the one that's good at everything. Well that's
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Speaker 5: Tyler Warren and he goes in the top ten, right
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Speaker 5: or I think it was fringe top ten. So like
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Speaker 5: those guys go high. You know, Kenyan Sadik is going
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Speaker 5: to go high because he does a little bit of everything. Well,
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Speaker 5: the guys that are going to be lower and the
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Speaker 5: draft are going to have specialties, and it's just a
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Speaker 5: matter of which specialty you want to take.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna have a full show about
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Speaker 1: the tight ends in a couple of weeks, Paul, we'll
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Speaker 1: get all into that, but first here in this episode,
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Speaker 1: jam packed all the front seven. First up, though, Chris
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Speaker 1: Matiz breaking down the mock drafts.
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Speaker 6: Chris, you know he's always were going over mock drafts,
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Speaker 6: so we did. We should a three yround mock. But
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Speaker 6: before we get to ours, we gotta go to the
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Speaker 6: most important Evan and du the mock draft track. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: so let me let me go through deuces real quick,
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Speaker 6: and then we'll react and go through Evans because they're
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Speaker 6: both they're both different for different different reasons. So Mike
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Speaker 6: d so ready with the thirty first pick, he took
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Speaker 6: Zion Yudd, young edge rusher. He also took Chris Bell
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Speaker 6: from Louisville wide receiver. And then an interesting part of
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Speaker 6: his is he took two tight ends. Took Sam Rouge
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Speaker 6: from Stanford and uh Tanner Cozy All from Houston. So
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Speaker 6: you got the tight end, you got the edge rusher.
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Speaker 6: And you got the receiver. Remember Chris Bell is off
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Speaker 6: the a c L injury, right.
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Speaker 7: I think I like the idea of the two tight end.
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Speaker 7: You know, the thought is there. You know Hunter Hendre's getting.
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Speaker 3: A little bit older.
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Speaker 7: Yep, you know, Hooper's gone. Hooper's gone. You need to
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Speaker 7: fill void there. I think one of those guys could
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Speaker 7: fill a hole one way. But I like his idea.
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Speaker 7: I like what he's going for. Someone's got to stuff
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Speaker 7: up there. And again, it doesn't hurt to have too
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Speaker 7: many tight ends. Yeah, I think it's a good thing.
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Speaker 7: I think it's it's important to your team, to your offense.
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Speaker 7: But I personally don't think I would go to in
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Speaker 7: the draft. But all right, but you're okay with that, yes,
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Speaker 7: But to talk about his first overall or sorry, first
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Speaker 7: round pick, Zion Young, Yeah, I mean Rightan's on the wall.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm a fan, I know you are.
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Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a second. But he's he's just
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Speaker 4: a tank. Everything that he's said, he's a beast.
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Speaker 6: All right. So we're going to Evan, who took a
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Speaker 6: different philosophy to this draft, which we have mixed reviews
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Speaker 6: on too. With thirty first pick. He took Blake Miller,
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Speaker 6: offensive tackle from Clemson.
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Speaker 3: UH.
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Speaker 6: He also took Derek Moore, who's an edge rusher from
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Speaker 6: UH Michigan, as well as Oscar Delp. And then we're
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Speaker 6: also gonna mention Bud Clark because that might tie into
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Speaker 6: something later. He's a safety. But Oscar Delp the tight
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Speaker 6: end from Georgia. So when you take Blake Miller, that's
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Speaker 6: your your first round pick, and he's probably not going
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Speaker 6: to touch the field, you would hope. So he's gonna
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Speaker 6: learn behind Morgan Moses. So an investment pick.
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Speaker 7: You're setting him up for success in the future. That's
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Speaker 7: your that's your vision with Blake Miller. But then you
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Speaker 7: look at the second round. I mean, you know, Patriots,
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Speaker 7: they need an edge rusher. Derek Moore, He's one of
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Speaker 7: those guys a lot like I kind of put him
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Speaker 7: in the same category as Malki Lawrence got good speed
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Speaker 7: coming off the edge.
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Speaker 4: Really, you know, Derek Moore.
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Speaker 7: Doesn't have a full set package of finesse moves and stuff.
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Speaker 7: He's more bull rush. I'm gonna use my speed against you.
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Speaker 7: That's just what I'm gonna do. But I really like
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Speaker 7: Derek Moore in that second round spot if you're gonna
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Speaker 7: go there for that that type of area for edge rushers.
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Speaker 7: But you know, he's a really good selection. And we
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Speaker 7: mentioned Delp just a receiving tight end. He's got great speed,
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Speaker 7: great hands, doesn't drop the ball very much, I mean receiver,
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Speaker 7: more of a receiver. But you know, right, so I
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Speaker 7: think it's important. Again we talked about already about Duce's
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Speaker 7: draft need a tight end this draft.
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Speaker 4: I don't think you need to, yeah, but I my
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Speaker 4: personal favorite is Delp. And we'll get more into it as.
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Speaker 6: We all got it, all right, So guys, both these
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Speaker 6: mock drafts are available on the Patriots dot Com mock
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Speaker 6: draft tracker. But we're here for the real reason. Chris,
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Speaker 6: you and I we did a three round mock. So
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Speaker 6: do you want me to go first and then you go?
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Speaker 4: All right?
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Speaker 6: So listen, I mean I've told you I'm not the
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Speaker 6: biggest fan of this drafts. It's not the sexiest draft
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Speaker 6: in the world. This is more for the football nerds.
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Speaker 6: But I took Zion Young to ede rusher at thirty one.
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Speaker 6: I thought about doing the trade up. We use the
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Speaker 6: mock draft database. I thought about doing the trade up
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Speaker 6: for Sadik the tight end, but I said, I don't
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Speaker 6: think that's gonna happen. I took Zion Young. That's the
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Speaker 6: safe pick, all right. With the second round, I took
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Speaker 6: aj Halsey, the safety from LSU. Duce mentioned him. I
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Speaker 6: mentioned him in our safety's defensive back segment. That was
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Speaker 6: kind of the best player on the board. Yes, so
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Speaker 6: you got Kevin Byrd. He's up there in age. So
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Speaker 6: once again, this is an investment pick. But he's a baller.
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Speaker 6: He's a ballhawk. And then with my third round pick,
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Speaker 6: I took Kyle Lewis, linebacker from pitt A bit of
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Speaker 6: a hybrid safety line back. He could He's a bit undersize,
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Speaker 6: but he can move. He can move and he can
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Speaker 6: make an impact. He could go over the field.
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Speaker 7: I like those three rounds. I really like your Halsey pick.
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Speaker 7: I mean, like you said, you're the best guy on
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Speaker 7: the board when you're doing a mock draft.
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Speaker 3: But it's tough.
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Speaker 4: You want to see him in that spot.
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Speaker 7: And I do think the Patriots benefit from taking a
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Speaker 7: guy like him, uh, you know, just a stud. Like
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Speaker 7: you said, he's your prototypical safety and you stick him
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Speaker 7: behind to Kevin Bayerd yeah, let him grow for a year.
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Speaker 7: I mean, that's realistically what's gonna end up happening with
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Speaker 7: a lot of these guys that they're gonna draft.
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Speaker 6: So the thing is, too, he had twelve pass breakups
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Speaker 6: eight receptions in the past two years. That's what I
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Speaker 6: want my safety. Yeah, no fly zone, so he could
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Speaker 6: become that.
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Speaker 7: The upside with it with being in defensive back is
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Speaker 7: you can put him in different packages and I still
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Speaker 7: use him on the field, Whereas like there's other positions,
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Speaker 7: Like we talked about the tackle position. You know, that's
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Speaker 7: a harder one to sort of, you know, immediately start playing,
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Speaker 7: especially if you're draft first round, like first round, your
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Speaker 7: first round talent. Sure you could probably start, but you know,
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Speaker 7: Will has a left side and you know Morgan has
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Speaker 7: the right side.
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Speaker 4: Just develop as you as.
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Speaker 6: You go exactly. And the Kyle Lewis pick from Pitt,
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Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not fully sold in it, but linebacker
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Speaker 6: is a position to need, and it is again one
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Speaker 6: of the better players on the board. I'd rather just
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Speaker 6: get a guy than start getting all these trades and stuff.
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Speaker 7: So you know, I really like Kyle Lewis. I mean,
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Speaker 7: I think this linebacker class is very deep. Yeah, with
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Speaker 7: Fisher and Lewis.
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Speaker 4: And all these guys.
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Speaker 7: You know, I think there's a lot of leverage there
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Speaker 7: and you can wait and hold out a little bit
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Speaker 7: and still get a good linebacker in this draft.
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Speaker 4: But I love Kyle Lewis for you.
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Speaker 6: Let's get into Chris. Sorry, I'm excited.
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Speaker 7: So round one we got T J. Parker Clemson. All right,
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Speaker 7: the edge rusher.
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Speaker 4: Round two a little bit of a reach for me,
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Speaker 4: but I personally.
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Speaker 7: Think this is a need for the Patriots and there's
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Speaker 7: a lot of great t tackles out there. I'm trying
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Speaker 7: to jump into it. Dominique Gornge, big citrus. You know,
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Speaker 7: he's just an animal. I love him. Talk about him
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Speaker 7: in a second. Yeah, third round, Oscar Delp as well.
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Speaker 7: I I really think the Pats indeed to hit on
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Speaker 7: a tight end in the first three rounds. Uh, that's
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Speaker 7: why the trade up for I don't disagree with that.
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Speaker 7: I don't disagree with it, but be realistic, and you know,
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Speaker 7: some solid tight ends in this draft there are. So
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Speaker 7: my first favorite is Delp. As you mentioned, Evan has
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Speaker 7: Delp going as well in the third round. So you know,
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Speaker 7: like I said, we talked about t J. Parker for
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Speaker 7: a minute. Round one, you know, sort of that border
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Speaker 7: guy for the edge rusher position round one, early round two.
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Speaker 7: He has a lot of potential, does a great job
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Speaker 7: with his hands against tackles, can use his length and
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Speaker 7: bul rush to his ability. Doesn't have all the finesse
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Speaker 7: moves in his caliber, but you know he can use
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Speaker 7: his size to help.
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Speaker 4: Help him there. And again just get into the quarterback.
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Speaker 4: I think that the Patriots needed.
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Speaker 6: Are you taking him because Zion Young's got off the board?
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Speaker 4: Yes, Young off the board.
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Speaker 6: But if Zion Young's there, Yes, okay, all.
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Speaker 4: Right, I would say you take Zion Young.
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Speaker 6: That's the way the board played out.
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Speaker 4: Yes, the way board played out.
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Speaker 7: T J.
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Speaker 4: Parker was there for me. I like him. I think
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Speaker 4: also there're two different play styles.
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Speaker 7: Zion Young is more of the brute rugged three downs,
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Speaker 7: three dous.
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Speaker 4: You can put him inside, put him outside, you know.
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Speaker 3: T J.
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Speaker 4: Parker is more of your outside guy.
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Speaker 7: He can also extend himself and helping pass coverage on
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Speaker 7: the flat a little bit, you know, which is beneficial,
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Speaker 7: especially with how offensives work nowadays. Uh, that's that's kind
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Speaker 7: of I've been on t J. Parker now Dominique Orange,
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Speaker 7: bake Citrus. He is just as interesting Williams, I know,
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Speaker 7: but but he he is.
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Speaker 4: As specific as it gets to a noseguard.
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Speaker 6: Got it?
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Speaker 7: And you need somebody who you can line up Tonga
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Speaker 7: esque and just stuff ale.
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Speaker 6: And you're taking that in the second round.
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Speaker 4: Why not?
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Speaker 3: Why not?
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Speaker 4: If you love it? And again I'm reaching here a
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Speaker 4: little bit.
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Speaker 7: Dominice Orange could be in the third round in my opinion,
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Speaker 7: maybe fourth, But I do like him. If you love him,
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Speaker 7: I love him. I'm taking Dominice Go Orange in the
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Speaker 7: second round. Just his ability to move blockers. And he's
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Speaker 7: six or four, three hundred and thirty pounds.
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Speaker 6: Like boy, that's a big fellow in the middle. Got it,
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Speaker 6: got it?
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Speaker 7: I mean I like a big guy when it comes
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Speaker 7: to kind of holding holding, holding their own in the
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Speaker 7: front line.
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Speaker 6: All right.
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Speaker 7: So that's my take on Dominice Orange. I think he's
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Speaker 7: gonna be available to second round. I don't know, we'll
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Speaker 7: see if the pass go that way, but that's my preference.
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Speaker 7: And then round three, doubt we already talked about about speed.
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Speaker 7: Great hands, doesn't drop the ball very often, could create
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Speaker 7: a little bit more separation against UH defensive backs. Downfield,
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Speaker 7: but converts a lot of twelve plus yard plays in college,
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Speaker 7: and he could take in turn over into the NFL.
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Speaker 6: So perfect, Chris, I like it. I like it. Well, guys,
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Speaker 6: you'll hear more about the front seven as we go
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Speaker 6: on to the next section.
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Speaker 1: All right, it's a big day here for me because
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Speaker 1: it's the front seven preview.
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Speaker 3: Guys, y'all know me. I love me some defense, Mike.
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Speaker 3: I know if you ever heard of Mike's defense, I
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Speaker 3: do you.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, especially this edge class, Am I wrong? This is
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Speaker 1: a really strong edge class. It's a big position and
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Speaker 1: a need for the Patriots. So this should be a
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Speaker 1: fun one because I think really all through these positions,
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Speaker 1: I think you could see them potentially take him. We're
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Speaker 1: talking of course, defensive tackle, defensive end, edge, whatever you
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Speaker 1: want to call it, ev and of course off the
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Speaker 1: ball linebacker, and I think the best place to start
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Speaker 1: is with this stacked edge class. Patriot's probably not going
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Speaker 1: to have a shot at some of these top guys.
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Speaker 1: But let's first talk about David Baileyan and Ruben Bain, who,
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Speaker 1: of course, do you watch the National Championship.
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Speaker 2: Ruben Bain is a nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Talk some short arms, but at the same time, those
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Speaker 1: guys gonna.
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Speaker 2: Make a big impact, I think right away.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Ruby Bain is probably the most powerful
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Speaker 5: player in this entire draft, just for cinder blockhands. Obviously,
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Speaker 5: the bend is something that goes around social media. Look
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Speaker 5: at the shin angles, look at the bend, you know,
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Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff is great. But just watching
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Speaker 5: him a little bit, you know, checking out Ramelo Height,
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Speaker 5: his running made, his wing made there on the other
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Speaker 5: side of Texas Tech. Both those guys, you know, with
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Speaker 5: David Bailey and Ramelo Height, could really get after the
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Speaker 5: quarterback too. So I both the schools have bookends, right,
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Speaker 5: I mean, we're going to talk about a Keem mesidor here.
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Speaker 5: I'm sure in a second more in the Patriots range.
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Speaker 5: And he worked, you know, in tandem with Rubin Bain,
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Speaker 5: and then David Bailey has Hermelo Heights. So some guys
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Speaker 5: that interest the Patriots. But I think with those two,
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Speaker 5: you just see both of those guys have extremely good
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Speaker 5: explosiveness off the football, power in Bain's case, more athleticism,
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Speaker 5: I would say, in Bailey's case. So it's a good class.
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Speaker 5: It's a good class.
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Speaker 2: I think the bigger question, Paul, what are we looking
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Speaker 2: for in this group?
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of different options, and we talk edge, defensive,
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Speaker 1: end guys that can stand out, guys that are hand down.
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Speaker 2: There's a wide range covered in this position group.
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Speaker 3: And I'm having a little bit more of a hard
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Speaker 3: time because of you know, sort of been in that
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Speaker 3: Belichick frame of mind for so long. It's hard because
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Speaker 3: I do think Rabel and Zach Korr played the front
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Speaker 3: seven a little bit differently than what I have been
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Speaker 3: accustomed to me too over the years. So I'm having
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Speaker 3: a hard time sort of identifying. It used to be like,
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Speaker 3: you know, six or four guys that could run you know,
15:03
Speaker 3: a four to six, you know, and they can be
15:05
Speaker 3: William McGinnis types on the edge well, you know, as
15:08
Speaker 3: that likes to say, those are kind of planet players.
15:10
Speaker 3: There's not that many of them, So I think you
15:12
Speaker 3: can open up the lens a little bit more because
15:14
Speaker 3: I think the way that they played last year is
15:17
Speaker 3: a little bit more conducive to different body styles. You know,
15:20
Speaker 3: when you look and you're looking at some of these
15:22
Speaker 3: guys and you know, I think baying in measudor you know,
15:25
Speaker 3: even though they're they're teammates. They're really different and they
15:28
Speaker 3: do a different way. Obviously, Mezidor is a little bit
15:31
Speaker 3: older too, so I think that's going to be the
15:33
Speaker 3: key for me, is trying to find do they want
15:36
Speaker 3: a guy in the first round, and then you sort
15:38
Speaker 3: of identify the guys that are in that area, Chris
15:40
Speaker 3: and try to figure out which ones might fit best
15:42
Speaker 3: for the Patriots. Yeah.
15:43
Speaker 7: I mean we talked about Messidor a little already, but
15:45
Speaker 7: I think that's my overall favorite of this Yeah, I've
15:49
Speaker 7: really loved in this player. I think age is a
15:52
Speaker 7: little bit of a factor for him because obviously you
15:54
Speaker 7: have your rookie contract going through the first round start
15:57
Speaker 7: at four years, so you play four years, you're already
15:59
Speaker 7: twenty years old, and then you're talking extension. Are you
16:02
Speaker 7: talking trade value or are you talking like something like that.
16:05
Speaker 7: But I think for overall, balanced edge rushers kind of
16:10
Speaker 7: what I think the Patriots need the most.
16:12
Speaker 4: I think he's a really solid, solid piece of that.
16:14
Speaker 3: But he's got a.
16:14
Speaker 4: Great movement to get to the quarterback.
16:16
Speaker 7: He's he's quick, he's i mean, his finesse ability is there.
16:21
Speaker 7: You know, he's a really positive edge rusher. Again, I
16:26
Speaker 7: think experience plays a big factor in that, especially playing
16:29
Speaker 7: a power five ball, and Miami went deep in the
16:31
Speaker 7: playoffs here, so I think that was important.
16:34
Speaker 4: But that's kind of my time.
16:36
Speaker 3: If I'm just curious with with Mike, and you know,
16:38
Speaker 3: because Mike is the expert on defense. But I'm for
16:42
Speaker 3: you just like, do you think that Like I think
16:46
Speaker 3: in the past Belichick would have maybe sort of eliminated
16:50
Speaker 3: like a pure pass rusher that just rushes the passer.
16:53
Speaker 3: Now I don't necessarily take those guys off the board.
16:57
Speaker 3: What you know, for for for Rabel, is he looking
17:01
Speaker 3: for just a good player or a guy who does
17:04
Speaker 3: one thing if he doesn't set the edge as well,
17:07
Speaker 3: you know, like that would be off the board for Bill.
17:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this is the hardest part about this
17:11
Speaker 5: entire draft class at this position is it's pick your
17:14
Speaker 5: favorite ice cream flavor, right, like the Vanility like chocolate?
17:17
Speaker 5: Do you like cookies in cream? Do you like coffee?
17:19
Speaker 5: Do what do you like? Because they have all the
17:22
Speaker 5: different types in this edgeresher class, he got bigger guys
17:24
Speaker 5: like Zion Young or Keldric falk or two sixty five plus.
17:28
Speaker 3: Six six guys, smaller guys.
17:30
Speaker 5: Like Cassius Howell obviously have great bend and explosiveness and
17:33
Speaker 5: playmaking ability, but they have shorter arms and are a
17:36
Speaker 5: little bit undersized for the position. So I tend to
17:40
Speaker 5: lean with Rabel towards Harold Landry kind of being his prototype, right.
17:46
Speaker 5: I think that Harold Andry is the type of guy
17:48
Speaker 5: that he is always you know, obviously has loved, has
17:51
Speaker 5: kept with him, you know that sort of thing. And
17:53
Speaker 5: Harold Landry's six two fifty two fifty five, it can
17:58
Speaker 5: really rush the passer first, explosiveness, bend, fluidity as a
18:02
Speaker 5: pass rusher, heady against the run, but that's not really
18:06
Speaker 5: I would say, his calling card. And so I look
18:08
Speaker 5: at this class in that prism of who are the
18:12
Speaker 5: best Harold Landries of this class, and there's plenty of them,
18:16
Speaker 5: but I would just point out, you know, right off
18:18
Speaker 5: the top, like to me, Casius Howell is a Harold
18:21
Speaker 5: Landrid clone. I think he rushes the pass or the
18:24
Speaker 5: exact same way. I think he plays the run and
18:27
Speaker 5: pass with good instincts and good feel, which allows him
18:30
Speaker 5: to kind of play the run at a pretty high
18:32
Speaker 5: level at that size. But most importantly, some of the
18:36
Speaker 5: best you know explosiveness, bend, fluidity, inside out, ability to
18:39
Speaker 5: get on the edges of anybody in this class. And
18:43
Speaker 5: I look at him as a player that because of
18:45
Speaker 5: the arm length, he might fall to the Patriots at
18:48
Speaker 5: thirty one, but off the tape, he is a top
18:50
Speaker 5: twenty player in this class. And when you pick at
18:53
Speaker 5: the end of the first round, that's kind of what
18:55
Speaker 5: you're hoping to get. YEP, as a guy that slips
18:57
Speaker 5: through the clack cracks a little bit, whether it's injury,
19:00
Speaker 5: whether it's you know, measurables, or whatever the case may be,
19:03
Speaker 5: and you end up getting a top twenty talent at
19:05
Speaker 5: thirty one because the guy's arms measured an inch too short.
19:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cut.
19:10
Speaker 4: So I agree with cash toal, I really like him.
19:12
Speaker 7: I'm gonna kind of go a different angle with excuse me, Kendrick.
19:18
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
19:18
Speaker 7: I just bla liked that had in my head literally
19:20
Speaker 7: a second ago. Kendrick Falk run defender. He's a beast
19:24
Speaker 7: against the run. I think the Patriots lacked that a
19:26
Speaker 7: little bit, especially down the stretch. You saw that, especially
19:29
Speaker 7: in the Super Bowl. You saw it, and I think
19:31
Speaker 7: for the Patriots it's important for them to again, like
19:35
Speaker 7: I said, I think it's a balanced guy. I think
19:37
Speaker 7: you need a guy that can do both. And you
19:40
Speaker 7: mentioned the Harold Landry komp with cash towel, and I
19:42
Speaker 7: agree with that one. But you have the ability to
19:46
Speaker 7: sort of grow Falk as a pass rusher as well
19:50
Speaker 7: as he is a run run defender.
19:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, young guy, Yeah, yeah, twenty one.
19:57
Speaker 3: You know he'll play at twenty one. I act he
20:00
Speaker 3: looked at him as a guy who might get kicked inside.
20:02
Speaker 3: As a pass rusher, he's got. I think Chris is
20:05
Speaker 3: right about his run stopping ability, but that's I think
20:07
Speaker 3: him is more of maybe a sub rusher inside.
20:10
Speaker 5: I think the issue with both him and Zion Young
20:12
Speaker 5: that I have is that their full time role is
20:15
Speaker 5: probably going to be playing straight up over the tackle
20:18
Speaker 5: and a five technique with their hand in the you know,
20:20
Speaker 5: hand in the dirt. The Patriots did not really rush
20:23
Speaker 5: their rushers from the five technique a whole lot last year.
20:26
Speaker 5: They had inside guys like Barmore and Millon Williams, and
20:29
Speaker 5: then they had true outside guys like Kaylo and Chase
20:31
Speaker 5: On and Landry and Ponder and Jennings. So those guys,
20:35
Speaker 5: you know, just looking at the next gen of it
20:36
Speaker 5: all are logging snaps at seven and nine technique, which
20:39
Speaker 5: are all the way outside the tackle. So big guys
20:42
Speaker 5: like folk like young, really talented players and like fun
20:46
Speaker 5: players to watch, have those long levers and they know
20:49
Speaker 5: how to use them. But at the same time, you know,
20:51
Speaker 5: where do they play in a four man front? For
20:54
Speaker 5: Mike Rabol, Are they interior guys? Are they outside guys?
20:57
Speaker 5: They're kind of in the middle. It's not exactly the same,
21:00
Speaker 5: but I just to use a more tangible comparison, Like
21:04
Speaker 5: it's kind of like how they struggled with Keon White
21:06
Speaker 5: last year. Like they know that this is a talented player,
21:08
Speaker 5: they know they he has something to offer, but we
21:11
Speaker 5: just don't really have a great role for him within
21:15
Speaker 5: the framework of this defense.
21:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:17
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about some of the guys though, that
21:18
Speaker 1: maybe you know, could bring that on the outside.
21:20
Speaker 2: I just I mean, you mentioned Zion Young.
21:22
Speaker 1: He's a he's a popular mock draft pick, but moving
21:25
Speaker 1: you know past him, our Mason Thomas and.
21:27
Speaker 2: Gabe Achis are two guys that to me play like
21:30
Speaker 2: Mike rabel w.
21:31
Speaker 1: I like both of those guys really air on fire,
21:33
Speaker 1: aggressive kind of guys.
21:35
Speaker 3: You know.
21:36
Speaker 1: I mean Achus is six four to two sixty, so
21:38
Speaker 1: I mean he's still in that range. Maybe not quite
21:39
Speaker 1: the length of the other guys, but you know, ar
21:41
Speaker 1: Mason Thomas is two forty, so he's going to have that.
21:44
Speaker 2: And Chris, going back to what you said, you have
21:46
Speaker 2: to kind of pick what you want.
21:48
Speaker 1: I found myself gravitating towards these kind of guys, guys
21:50
Speaker 1: that I know has some juice. We'll find someone to
21:53
Speaker 1: stop the run. And I think this is Paul rubbing
21:54
Speaker 1: off on me, maybe, but I really like watching those No.
21:56
Speaker 3: But but that's why I brought up the whole kind
21:59
Speaker 3: undrum at the getting, because if you're looking for more
22:02
Speaker 3: well rounded guys, do you think that's what Rabel wants
22:04
Speaker 3: or West starting to get away with that if you
22:06
Speaker 3: have a you know, an elite skill like I mean,
22:08
Speaker 3: I think most people would say Chase On last year
22:11
Speaker 3: was kind of yeah, just you know, an edge rusher,
22:14
Speaker 3: you know, and he made plays, you know, against the
22:16
Speaker 3: run too. But I think that you're looking more like
22:19
Speaker 3: an r. Mason Thomas is just a guy who is
22:20
Speaker 3: probably going to be a speed guy off the edge.
22:22
Speaker 3: That's what he That's what he does and he does
22:24
Speaker 3: it pretty well. Do you want that or do you
22:26
Speaker 3: want you know, someone who's a little.
22:28
Speaker 1: Bit more versatile and maybe like a guy like Josh
22:30
Speaker 1: Ucha is a little bit of an example of the
22:31
Speaker 1: guy that.
22:32
Speaker 2: It doesn't always work out.
22:33
Speaker 1: I mean I remember talking to Don Brown when he
22:35
Speaker 1: came out, and Don Brown saying he can rush the arc.
22:37
Speaker 1: He's got that bend, he's you know, he never really
22:39
Speaker 1: translated here at least. But you know, I have two
22:41
Speaker 1: guys that that I'd love to hear you comment, And
22:43
Speaker 1: I don't know why I kind of have these these
22:45
Speaker 1: two kind of side by side.
22:46
Speaker 3: It's t J.
22:47
Speaker 1: Parker and Derek Moore. I feel like they're well rounded guys,
22:50
Speaker 1: tough guys. Maybe not the electric pass rush juice, certainly,
22:54
Speaker 1: you know the bull rush there from from Derek Moore's
22:57
Speaker 1: pretty impressive.
22:58
Speaker 2: I mean he's a powerful dude. How do you see
23:00
Speaker 2: those guys line enough?
23:01
Speaker 3: Yeah?
23:01
Speaker 5: So t J. Parker is an interesting one because he
23:05
Speaker 5: was a Shorefire first round pick junior coming out of
23:08
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty fourth season. Like even maybe in the
23:11
Speaker 5: conversation with Ruben Baind and David Bailey at that point
23:14
Speaker 5: of this cycle, he had a little bit of a
23:16
Speaker 5: down year last year. It comes int twenty five and
23:18
Speaker 5: now he's kind of slid into the back end of
23:20
Speaker 5: the first round as a result. But he is, you know,
23:23
Speaker 5: I wrote down in mind, he's a power oriented player.
23:26
Speaker 5: You know, that's a guy that's trying to go through
23:27
Speaker 5: blocks instead of around them more times than not. But
23:31
Speaker 5: what I do like about him is that he can
23:33
Speaker 5: get to the high side edge and get on the
23:35
Speaker 5: outside and then just kind of go through people's punches
23:38
Speaker 5: on the outside. So it's not all just going through
23:41
Speaker 5: right through a chess right, And I think that's what
23:43
Speaker 5: I get worried about when you start talking about translating
23:46
Speaker 5: from college to the pros. It's a lot easier to
23:49
Speaker 5: go through a chest of a college tackle than it
23:51
Speaker 5: is to go through the chest of a pro tackle.
23:53
Speaker 5: You know, the guys up here play a little bit different.
23:55
Speaker 5: You know, they got a little bit stronger, basses, stronger,
23:58
Speaker 5: you know, core strand and all that good stuff. They're
24:01
Speaker 5: grown men, so it's a little harder to do that.
24:04
Speaker 5: I really like Derek Moore. I think that at sixty three,
24:08
Speaker 5: he's right in the wheelhouse there for the Patriots. At
24:10
Speaker 5: that pick, i'd put you know, kind of a toss
24:13
Speaker 5: up between him and Gave Akis from Illinois. I really
24:16
Speaker 5: like as well wrestling background, a grappler, you know, guy
24:19
Speaker 5: that really knows how to control his body and can
24:21
Speaker 5: toward his body into gaps and move blockers out of
24:24
Speaker 5: the way. And both those guys play with a lot
24:28
Speaker 5: of power, a lot of fire, a lot of effort
24:30
Speaker 5: and finish. As Mike Rabel likes to say, So if
24:33
Speaker 5: you want to look for maybe in the body type
24:37
Speaker 5: of the guy that I'm bringing up with Harold Landry,
24:40
Speaker 5: but plays with a little bit more power to him.
24:43
Speaker 5: I think Akis and Derek Moore on day two fit
24:46
Speaker 5: that mold, and then we can kind of get into
24:48
Speaker 5: the screamers you know on day two as well. But
24:51
Speaker 5: those two guys, I would say, are probably in a
24:53
Speaker 5: little bit of a lower tier than TJ. Parker. I
24:55
Speaker 5: think t J. Parker is still a first round pick.
24:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like TJ.
24:58
Speaker 5: Parker.
24:59
Speaker 4: Another NAM gonna throw too is Malki Lawrence.
25:01
Speaker 7: Obviously, just at Combine, has a lot of speed, a
25:05
Speaker 7: little little top heavy with how he plays a little
25:08
Speaker 7: nimble down low. I feel like he can improve as
25:10
Speaker 7: a run defender, but he has unbelievable speed. He can
25:14
Speaker 7: get off the edge that you guys are looking for
25:16
Speaker 7: somebody that is speaking to get to the quarterback.
25:18
Speaker 4: I mean, he has a lot of speed, So yeah, Lawrence.
25:22
Speaker 5: What I was most impressed with with Malki Lawrence was
25:25
Speaker 5: how well schooled he is with his hands in his
25:28
Speaker 5: pass rush moves. Usually, when you get guys like that
25:31
Speaker 5: from a school, you know, smaller schools like UCF that
25:33
Speaker 5: have great combines, they're just these raw athletes that you
25:37
Speaker 5: know are just winning on pure athleticism at that level.
25:40
Speaker 5: But when I watched the film, I thought that he
25:43
Speaker 5: had a lot more tricks in tools in his bag
25:46
Speaker 5: than I was expecting. You know, he has a very
25:48
Speaker 5: deep pass rush toolbox, as we like to say, with
25:51
Speaker 5: different moves and hand counters and ability to maybe rush
25:55
Speaker 5: a little bit on the inside. But I thought he
25:57
Speaker 5: struggled at times doing that. But I think that what
26:00
Speaker 5: you see with him is some monof versatility. He can
26:03
Speaker 5: play a little bit off the ball if you want
26:04
Speaker 5: him to play there. But most importantly is not just
26:08
Speaker 5: the athleticism, but also the ability to win different ways
26:11
Speaker 5: in the pass rush. And that's really what you're looking
26:13
Speaker 5: for out of all of these guys, is you know,
26:16
Speaker 5: it's great to have one trick that's really really good,
26:19
Speaker 5: but you need to have multiple, at least two or
26:21
Speaker 5: three change ups that you can throw at NFL tackles,
26:24
Speaker 5: and I think he's got that. So mal Chy Lawrence
26:27
Speaker 5: to me is a sneaky first round possibility, Like I
26:30
Speaker 5: wouldn't be shocked if he slides into the back end
26:33
Speaker 5: of the first round. I think he's a top fifty
26:34
Speaker 5: player all day.
26:35
Speaker 2: Yea, No, you look like you're about say something. Don't
26:39
Speaker 2: want to get two in the weeds.
26:40
Speaker 1: With this because we do have two other position groups
26:42
Speaker 1: to go, but it is a stat class, so maybe
26:44
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for a double dip here.
26:46
Speaker 2: I mean, it's in need. Love to see that.
26:48
Speaker 1: I just you know, one guy I'm just going to
26:50
Speaker 1: throw out there is Wesley Williams from Duke, who you
26:52
Speaker 1: know is still developmental guy but just plays that same thing.
26:55
Speaker 1: It stands out to me the way he plays with
26:56
Speaker 1: a great motor, just all over the place, overwhelmed, but
27:01
Speaker 1: a developmental kind of a guy.
27:03
Speaker 2: Love to see them. Maybe add one of those kind
27:05
Speaker 2: of guys.
27:05
Speaker 1: But who else you guys got As we wrap up
27:07
Speaker 1: the edges here of a notable maybe later day, Day two,
27:11
Speaker 1: day three kind of prospects, maybe they they could grab.
27:13
Speaker 3: Now, Walliams was the guy that you sort of put
27:15
Speaker 3: me on earlier in the week, and I watched him
27:18
Speaker 3: a little bit yesterday and I see, you know, you
27:20
Speaker 3: know what you were talking about. So it doesn't do
27:22
Speaker 3: anything that really jumps off the page at you, but
27:25
Speaker 3: does kind of everything, okay, yea, And I think this
27:27
Speaker 3: is probably worth worth tapping into trait. To me, this
27:32
Speaker 3: is about the top because I think this is a
27:35
Speaker 3: huge need. I think most people would argue it's the
27:37
Speaker 3: biggest need that exists on the rosters. So I think
27:40
Speaker 3: it's going to be really interesting to see how these
27:42
Speaker 3: guys come off the board ahead of them at thirty one,
27:45
Speaker 3: Do five six guys go and then you say, I
27:48
Speaker 3: don't really want to have the seventh or eighth edge rusher,
27:52
Speaker 3: you know, in the first round. I'll wait till the
27:54
Speaker 3: second or third round, or do some of these guys
27:57
Speaker 3: start to slip and then maybe you get a guy,
27:59
Speaker 3: you know, like TJ. Park or something something like that
28:02
Speaker 3: maybe you don't really expect to be available, who becomes
28:04
Speaker 3: available and is too good to pass up. That to
28:06
Speaker 3: me is the intrigue of this first round for the Patriot.
28:10
Speaker 2: We've got to get off your chest at before we
28:11
Speaker 2: move on, I'll.
28:12
Speaker 5: Do some rapid fire. So key On Crawford from Auburn
28:15
Speaker 5: is one of my favorite, like mid round, third or
28:17
Speaker 5: fourth round prospects in this draft. He played the buck
28:21
Speaker 5: position for Auburn, which is like kind of a versatile
28:24
Speaker 5: rush off the passer, dropping to coverage off the line
28:28
Speaker 5: of scrimmage, play the overhang, so he's kind of like
28:31
Speaker 5: all the way out almost over the slot at times.
28:34
Speaker 5: Really athletic player, but his bend is twitch, is the
28:37
Speaker 5: first step, explosiveness, all elite. One of the guys that's
28:40
Speaker 5: sort of a late riser at least in the media
28:43
Speaker 5: is JSHN Barham from Michigan who played a little bit
28:46
Speaker 5: off the ball, a little bit on the ball at Michigan,
28:48
Speaker 5: but I think he's he's a pure you know, outside
28:51
Speaker 5: linebacker in the NFL on the ball and really really
28:55
Speaker 5: explosive player, can get underneath pads. But really what you
28:59
Speaker 5: see with him is just a guy that really can
29:02
Speaker 5: get off the football. If we're getting into Day three,
29:05
Speaker 5: you know, especially there with those two fourth round picks.
29:08
Speaker 5: I think there is a little bit of a drop
29:10
Speaker 5: off once you get through the Crawfords, the Barms, the
29:13
Speaker 5: Joshua Joseph's from Tennessee. I'm interested to see where Romelo
29:16
Speaker 5: height goes. You know, you only measured in at like
29:18
Speaker 5: two hundred and forty pounds. He's pretty light. But a
29:21
Speaker 5: couple of guys there on D three. Max Lewellyn from Iowa,
29:26
Speaker 5: I think he, you know, is a skilled rusher. Paul
29:28
Speaker 5: is kind of talking about maybe gravitating more towards the
29:31
Speaker 5: guys that just kind of purely rushed the passer at
29:34
Speaker 5: a high level. I think he's one of those guys
29:36
Speaker 5: that could come in and rush the passer on third
29:38
Speaker 5: down pretty much instantly. Maybe not the run defender or
29:42
Speaker 5: the guy with the play strength, but a really deep
29:45
Speaker 5: pass rush Arsenal. Last one McHale Kamara from Indiana. Chris
29:50
Speaker 5: wanted run defense. This guy can bring the run defense
29:54
Speaker 5: if that's what you want. If they want a sturdier
29:56
Speaker 5: edgesetter that can come in and hold up blocks and
30:00
Speaker 5: host up on the edge and make plays on the
30:02
Speaker 5: other side of the line of scrimmage in the run game.
30:04
Speaker 5: You know, I would say, gravitate towards him. Okay, I'll
30:08
Speaker 5: throw one more out there and then I'm done. Cad
30:11
Speaker 5: and Curry from Ohio State. I think we just got
30:13
Speaker 5: to mention all the buck guys at all times. So
30:17
Speaker 5: I'll mention him and Contagious Hutchins from Boston College just
30:19
Speaker 5: because it's right down the street and the pipeline exists,
30:22
Speaker 5: and I'm just gonna throw that out there as well.
30:24
Speaker 5: But I think all those guys that I just mentioned,
30:27
Speaker 5: you know, Llewellyn, Kamara, Curry, Hutchins, those are Day three
30:32
Speaker 5: players that maybe if they want to double dip, or
30:35
Speaker 5: guys they could come back to and on Day three.
30:37
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's move on to the defensive line.
30:40
Speaker 1: We saw they lost Kyris Tonga and free agency, so
30:42
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a need there. I've been
30:45
Speaker 1: saying all year, kind of looking for a bigger type guy.
30:48
Speaker 1: Keep it keep it going with OSU, with Kate McDonald,
30:51
Speaker 1: you know, right at the top, probably the best guy
30:53
Speaker 1: in the class, although it seems like it's you know,
30:55
Speaker 1: a little jumble together. Caleb Banks, Peter Woods, those guys
30:58
Speaker 1: kind of in there as well.
31:00
Speaker 2: Jump in, Chris, what do you got no.
31:01
Speaker 4: I mean you talked about it.
31:02
Speaker 7: My personal favorite of that like kind of up at
31:05
Speaker 7: the top tier is Caleb Banks.
31:06
Speaker 3: And he's six.
31:07
Speaker 4: Six and he's just a minute inside.
31:09
Speaker 7: He's your true notes Like you need a run stopper,
31:12
Speaker 7: you need a guy who can also get to the quarterback.
31:14
Speaker 4: I mean you can kind of do it both do
31:17
Speaker 4: it both ways.
31:17
Speaker 7: And he's he's my personal favorite of that group for sure.
31:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see how his foot checks out.
31:24
Speaker 4: Is that the foot thing.
31:26
Speaker 5: Kate McDonald is probably, you know, one of my favorites
31:29
Speaker 5: out of this entire class, just because he actually makes
31:31
Speaker 5: plays in the run game. Like this isn't a space eater.
31:34
Speaker 5: This is a guy that gets off blocks and penetrates
31:37
Speaker 5: gaps and he can get into the backfield. I want
31:40
Speaker 5: to say, at thirty seven run stuffs last year for
31:42
Speaker 5: Ohio State, which is a huge number for an interior player,
31:46
Speaker 5: you know, similar to him, you know, Banks, Lee Hunter,
31:50
Speaker 5: you know, all these guys are kind of these run
31:52
Speaker 5: stuffers and I the nose tackles back baby.
31:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know for the position, those guys are pretty athletic.
31:59
Speaker 3: I would agree with you. It's a little bit of
32:01
Speaker 3: a resurgency.
32:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it. I love it. I think you know,
32:04
Speaker 5: as we could probably talk about this for hours. But
32:06
Speaker 5: as defenses get into more split safety coverages and they
32:11
Speaker 5: have the two safeties back because of the way the
32:13
Speaker 5: passing game has evolved in the NFL, you're stopping to
32:18
Speaker 5: run with a lot of light boxes and you have
32:20
Speaker 5: less people in the box, and so these three hundred
32:23
Speaker 5: and thirty pound run stuffers, you know, I'll just call
32:25
Speaker 5: one out from the Super Bowl like Byron Murphy. These
32:28
Speaker 5: are extremely valuable players because they can take on multiple
32:31
Speaker 5: gaps and hold up multiple gaps and multiple blockers so
32:35
Speaker 5: that you can play a man short in the box.
32:38
Speaker 5: And if they have penetration skill, well, now you can
32:40
Speaker 5: use them on gap penetrations and run stunts and things
32:43
Speaker 5: like that that allow you to play a man short,
32:47
Speaker 5: which is all everybody is trying to do. How can
32:50
Speaker 5: we get as many guys out of the box and
32:52
Speaker 5: stop the run with six or seven man boxes. What
32:55
Speaker 5: are the mechanics that we can use to do that?
32:57
Speaker 5: And if you want to do that, you don't necessarily
33:00
Speaker 5: need the space eating nose tackle. You kind of need
33:03
Speaker 5: a tweener well who can penetrate but also eat up blocks.
33:07
Speaker 1: Paul, is there an argument to me? And I'm probably
33:08
Speaker 1: asking the wrong person for this, but is there an
33:10
Speaker 1: argument to be made? Kayden McDonald's still there? Uh, you know,
33:13
Speaker 1: if there, you don't maybe there's a run on the edges.
33:15
Speaker 1: You don't love any of those guys kind.
33:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of what I was getting at with
33:19
Speaker 3: watching the way the board unfolds, and that, to me
33:23
Speaker 3: is why it's so difficult to do MUCKs, like, you know,
33:26
Speaker 3: without knowing exactly where everybody's gonna go. But I mean
33:30
Speaker 3: I would hope that they will go in a different
33:32
Speaker 3: direction than you know I got. But he's everything you
33:35
Speaker 3: haven't said about Kyden McDonald. I think he is a
33:38
Speaker 3: little bit different. He's not like this big you know,
33:42
Speaker 3: I just I stand in the middle and take up space. Yeah,
33:45
Speaker 3: he can get to a few of those oh you know.
33:47
Speaker 3: You know Lee Hunter is a little like that too,
33:51
Speaker 3: you know, like these guys are pretty athletic, you know,
33:54
Speaker 3: the banks banks. To me, it was like I worry
33:57
Speaker 3: a little bit about the foot. Yeah. But you know,
34:01
Speaker 3: in reading some stuff about him, I thought it was
34:02
Speaker 3: really impressive. And there was I read something from an
34:05
Speaker 3: anonymous scout that was so impressed with him hurting the
34:09
Speaker 3: foot easily could have been a first round draft pick,
34:12
Speaker 3: just shut it down, but he played, He played through it,
34:15
Speaker 3: ended up having to have surgery, and then fought to
34:17
Speaker 3: come to get back before the end of the year.
34:20
Speaker 3: I think that's something that might hurt his stock physically
34:24
Speaker 3: but really help his stock in terms of how it's
34:27
Speaker 3: going to be perceived among NFL teams. So that's an
34:30
Speaker 3: interesting guy. I don't know exactly how he fits. He
34:33
Speaker 3: seems like I'm not an expert f I don't try
34:35
Speaker 3: to like break all the you know, the the zero
34:38
Speaker 3: technique and all that stuff down. He just seems too
34:41
Speaker 3: big to play inside like that.
34:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think that a lot of these guys
34:45
Speaker 5: that were talking about are probably shade shaded noses, so
34:48
Speaker 5: they're gonna probably play into the a gap like as
34:50
Speaker 5: one technique. You know, some of them, I'm sure could
34:52
Speaker 5: play odd front nose. I think Lee Hunter could probably
34:55
Speaker 5: do that pretty easily just with his size. And then
34:58
Speaker 5: we'll get to some true one tech zero tech mons
35:01
Speaker 5: a second, the big Orange we'll get it. We'll get
35:05
Speaker 5: But I think a lot of these guys, the McDonald banks,
35:09
Speaker 5: even you know, going down a little bit, like to
35:12
Speaker 5: Kristin Miller and those players. I think those guys are
35:16
Speaker 5: one to two I to three probably at this level,
35:20
Speaker 5: and you know, are are stuff in the run still
35:23
Speaker 5: on the inside. It's all kind of like that's really
35:25
Speaker 5: minutia and it really kind of comes out in the
35:27
Speaker 5: wash for the most part.
35:28
Speaker 2: Come on, Chris, take us, take us to Big Citrus Carr.
35:30
Speaker 2: I'll give you.
35:31
Speaker 7: I'll give you my two top big guys interior. Those
35:36
Speaker 7: guys Skylar Gil Howard from Texas Texas Tech the other
35:40
Speaker 7: defensive tackle. He did get injured this past season early on,
35:44
Speaker 7: but just another guy stout big. You know, just Texas
35:49
Speaker 7: Tech defense is really great this past year and he was.
35:52
Speaker 7: He was a part of it until he went down.
35:54
Speaker 7: And I think he you know, he he could have
35:56
Speaker 7: been up there with Lee Hunter. I think if he
35:58
Speaker 7: was able to play a full season. That's my person opinion.
36:01
Speaker 7: And yeah, get into Big Citrus Dominique Orange. You know,
36:05
Speaker 7: he's just your prototype, you know, three hundred and thirty
36:07
Speaker 7: pounds Iowa.
36:09
Speaker 5: State squatty, Yeah, squatty what we called them wide bodies, Yeah,
36:13
Speaker 5: wi body.
36:14
Speaker 4: I mean he I picture how the Patriots used Kayas.
36:17
Speaker 7: Tonga this past season, and I think that's your vision
36:20
Speaker 7: for Big Citrus.
36:21
Speaker 4: And I mean I really like him.
36:24
Speaker 7: He's a guy could go late second, early third in
36:27
Speaker 7: my opinion if he if he's kind of still on
36:30
Speaker 7: the board there, and I really love what he can
36:32
Speaker 7: do here to stop the run. Can get a little
36:34
Speaker 7: bit better at the end of the quarterback. You know,
36:37
Speaker 7: obviously is a big guy like that, you're more expected
36:39
Speaker 7: to stop the run. So I'm not saying that's his
36:41
Speaker 7: main priority to fix, but you know, he loves to
36:44
Speaker 7: play inside against guys on that old line and loves.
36:47
Speaker 4: The interior battle. So I really love him as a
36:49
Speaker 4: run stuffer.
36:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's He's one of the strongest players in the draft.
36:52
Speaker 5: It's it's really just pops off the film, how stronk
36:55
Speaker 5: he is. It's not a lot of guys that can
36:58
Speaker 5: just ragged all lineman and you know at that level
37:00
Speaker 5: of D one football, and he certainly can do that.
37:03
Speaker 5: He's got great size, really heavy hands, really big upper
37:09
Speaker 5: body strength, and he kind of uses that lower center
37:11
Speaker 5: of gravity as natural lower center of gravity to get
37:15
Speaker 5: underneath blockers and hold the line of scrimmage. I would,
37:19
Speaker 5: you know, just philosophically, I find it interesting with him
37:23
Speaker 5: and the other great nickname in this defensive tackle class,
37:26
Speaker 5: the Godfather, sorry Paul dot di carlyon, both those guys. Historically,
37:33
Speaker 5: in recent history history with at least with the draft,
37:36
Speaker 5: these guys have been devalued and where exactly do they
37:39
Speaker 5: go in the draft. They've fallen a little bit, maybe
37:42
Speaker 5: relative to what their tape would suggest, because they're situational
37:45
Speaker 5: players like Dominie Gorange is gonna play on first and
37:48
Speaker 5: second down, he's gonna play goal line, he's gonna play
37:50
Speaker 5: short yardage. He's not going to play on third down
37:53
Speaker 5: in the league. So he's what a forty five percent
37:57
Speaker 5: snap count guy maybe at most. And so if you're
38:00
Speaker 5: drafting that player in the top one hundred, it's a
38:04
Speaker 5: question of value and all that good stuff. So we've
38:06
Speaker 5: seen a lot of these types of guys, you know,
38:09
Speaker 5: whether it's Big Citrus, whether it's Corleone, whether it's Timmy
38:12
Speaker 5: Keenan from Alabama who's another one of these run stuffing
38:15
Speaker 5: nose tackles. You know, all those guys have typically seen
38:19
Speaker 5: themselves drop you know, half a round of maybe even
38:22
Speaker 5: a full round. You know, Corleone also has some blood
38:24
Speaker 5: clots in his history too that he has to work through.
38:27
Speaker 5: Missed some time in twenty twenty four. With that, So
38:30
Speaker 5: are these guys going to go top one hundred or not?
38:33
Speaker 5: I think matters one like how many of these big
38:37
Speaker 5: guys that we mentioned at the top go to teams
38:39
Speaker 5: that need nose tackles, because then that group goes from
38:42
Speaker 5: here to hear right, and then you have to worry about, okay,
38:45
Speaker 5: which teams are actually using nose tackles, and that shrinks
38:48
Speaker 5: it even more.
38:49
Speaker 3: So.
38:49
Speaker 5: I don't know if they're going to be top one
38:52
Speaker 5: hundred guys because of all of that good stuff. But
38:53
Speaker 5: there's no doubt that the two of those guys can
38:55
Speaker 5: play some ball. I mean, they're great players.
38:57
Speaker 1: Just a couple other guys I want to mention Kayleb
38:59
Speaker 1: Proctor from Southeast Louisiana, who's just blew up the combine
39:02
Speaker 1: all over the place. Really interesting guy jumping competition coming,
39:06
Speaker 1: but I just, you know, talk about a guy who
39:07
Speaker 1: maybe you can find in a little bit later.
39:10
Speaker 2: He seemed to do it all.
39:11
Speaker 1: And Zane Durant from Penn State, who just you know,
39:13
Speaker 1: I don't know if you need another millon Williams. Christian
39:15
Speaker 1: Barmore kind of quick off the ball penetrator type, but
39:18
Speaker 1: I think that's a pipeline you should always keep running
39:21
Speaker 1: and make sure it's stocked because interior pressure, especially in
39:23
Speaker 1: this defense, seems like a key.
39:25
Speaker 2: Those are two guys later that stood out to me.
39:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Caleb Procter is the top one hundred pick.
39:30
Speaker 5: His pass rush tape is excellent. He reminds me a
39:33
Speaker 5: lot of Milon Williams coming out of college. Millon Williams
39:36
Speaker 5: are the third round pick. He is a very high
39:40
Speaker 5: level pass rusher. I think Zane Durant right now is
39:42
Speaker 5: a little bit more raw, like that's more combine drafting
39:45
Speaker 5: off the combine and the athleticism. And the other one
39:48
Speaker 5: I'll just throw out there is Grayson Halton from Oklahoma.
39:51
Speaker 5: All three of those guys, if they're looking for still
39:54
Speaker 5: the Milton Williams right, the undersize interior pass rusher. We've
39:58
Speaker 5: talked a lot about run stuff. Those three guys fit
40:01
Speaker 5: the other mold. It's just funny because normally that's what
40:04
Speaker 5: we're talking about at the top of the draft, and
40:06
Speaker 5: the nose tackles are at the bottom of the draft,
40:08
Speaker 5: and this is one of those classes that has been flipped.
40:11
Speaker 7: Yeah, anybody Chris Chris McClellan from Missouri, another big guy.
40:15
Speaker 4: I really like his tape, and.
40:17
Speaker 2: You like the guys, Yeah, run stop.
40:19
Speaker 4: I mean a big guy got all the big game.
40:21
Speaker 4: I feel like that's how it works nowadays.
40:24
Speaker 5: Four inch arms, Yeah, those things always turned out to me.
40:26
Speaker 7: It's like running into a net, you know, It's like
40:29
Speaker 7: you're just gonna get hit clos.
40:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love him.
40:33
Speaker 5: The long arm guys on the interior, to me, are
40:36
Speaker 5: are really valuable because they can separate from blocks first
40:39
Speaker 5: of all with their arms, but they also cast that
40:41
Speaker 5: net where they can swallow multiple gaps with their tackle radius.
40:46
Speaker 5: And if you have a little bit of lateral quickness
40:48
Speaker 5: in there as well, then even better. But you can
40:51
Speaker 5: just see them just bear hugging guys and swallowing guys
40:53
Speaker 5: that you know running the ball through the a gaps. Right.
40:56
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's let's swing it over here to
40:57
Speaker 1: our last position group of the front seven. That's the
40:59
Speaker 1: linebacker group. And there's another really talented group, especially at
41:03
Speaker 1: the top. I mean, RL Reese, what are you going
41:05
Speaker 1: to call him an edge? We'll call him an off
41:07
Speaker 1: The ball linebacker here. But I mean I got a
41:09
Speaker 1: feeling the Patriots are gonna have to deal with him
41:10
Speaker 1: in some capacity next year in the NFL, if not
41:13
Speaker 1: with the Jets, maybe somebody else but him and Sonny Styles.
41:16
Speaker 1: Sonny Styles was amazing at the combine. I mean, he
41:19
Speaker 1: just looks like a dude.
41:20
Speaker 2: He blew it up, crazy athleticism.
41:22
Speaker 1: I think that stood out to me was like they
41:23
Speaker 1: were just doing like flexibility testing, and this is like
41:25
Speaker 1: a giant dude who just can do it all perfectly constructed. So,
41:30
Speaker 1: you know, those two guys kind of kick things off
41:31
Speaker 1: and then CJ.
41:32
Speaker 2: Allen.
41:33
Speaker 1: But actually before we get into that, just real quick
41:35
Speaker 1: on the need. You know, Jack Gibbons is gone. They
41:37
Speaker 1: brought in kJ Britt still see it as maybe a
41:40
Speaker 1: long term need maybe that you know, seen a lot
41:42
Speaker 1: of random mock drafts where they're throwing you know, Rodriguez
41:47
Speaker 1: next to him, you know that kind of pick.
41:49
Speaker 2: I do see it.
41:49
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a huge need, but I do
41:51
Speaker 1: see it as like a long term it splaying got
41:53
Speaker 1: a little bit banged up last year.
41:55
Speaker 2: Love to maybe plug in a guy with some potential.
41:57
Speaker 3: I do think it's a need. I don't think it's
41:59
Speaker 3: in need like say to use a first round pick
42:01
Speaker 3: on or something like that. But I you know, not
42:04
Speaker 3: only they lost Gibbons, but Jilani Savai gave him some
42:07
Speaker 3: snaps last year too. He's gone, so obviously they like
42:10
Speaker 3: what they got from Christian Ellis and in Splain is
42:13
Speaker 3: obviously the one guy that never leaves the field. I
42:16
Speaker 3: think they need more than that. And I think Splain
42:19
Speaker 3: in particular is someone that I'm small se concerned about,
42:22
Speaker 3: not by his play but just the wear and tear.
42:25
Speaker 8: Yeah, year old line played a lot of played a
42:29
Speaker 8: lot of football, So I do think this is a
42:32
Speaker 8: you know, you know, call it a secondary need and
42:35
Speaker 8: you know, sunny styles just just I know he's going
42:39
Speaker 8: early in the draft.
42:40
Speaker 5: Like like top ten.
42:43
Speaker 3: I can't believe he ever played.
42:44
Speaker 2: Safety at that size.
42:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he is an impressive athlete.
42:50
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean, I Ohio State defense is going
42:53
Speaker 5: to have like all eleven guys I think drafted by
42:56
Speaker 5: the time they wrap up there with Matt Patricia, I
42:59
Speaker 5: would say this is probably one of my favorite classes
43:02
Speaker 5: out of all the classes. The linebacker cross rocks. I mean,
43:05
Speaker 5: it's great from Anthony Hill. So yeah, Anthony Hill.
43:09
Speaker 7: And c J.
43:10
Speaker 5: Allen, I think are two guys that are very very
43:12
Speaker 5: different players that projected in similar ranges.
43:15
Speaker 3: C J.
43:15
Speaker 5: Allen is more the dirty work guy, like he's gonna
43:18
Speaker 5: get his hat into the gap, He's gonna take away
43:21
Speaker 5: away compressed space. He'll makes place. Hill flies around, He'll
43:26
Speaker 5: is you know, they're not exactly the same, but I
43:29
Speaker 5: think Dante High Tower to Jamie Collins right like Anthony
43:31
Speaker 5: Hill Junior is the Jamie Collins. He's the guy that
43:34
Speaker 5: makes some you know, the plays on the ball a
43:37
Speaker 5: lot less understand you know, all that kind of stuff.
43:41
Speaker 5: I'm not saying stylistically they're exactly the same. It's just
43:44
Speaker 5: role and what they bring to the one.
43:46
Speaker 3: He's an athlete with instincts. The other one is just
43:48
Speaker 3: you know, a sort of I'm bringing.
43:52
Speaker 5: I'm bringing my hard hat ring.
43:55
Speaker 4: That was my personal favorite. I really like Cjen.
43:58
Speaker 7: Again, you mentioned the clogging, and I feel like that's
44:00
Speaker 7: been a theme for me on this on this episode,
44:03
Speaker 7: and you know, I just think it's important.
44:05
Speaker 4: For the Patriots to really address the run this year,
44:07
Speaker 4: like it has to be a priority.
44:09
Speaker 7: And I think they know that, but I really think
44:12
Speaker 7: that you need a linebacker who can do it.
44:15
Speaker 1: And well, I mean to that point, Chris, I mean
44:16
Speaker 1: not to push back on you, but but I mean,
44:18
Speaker 1: how do you feel about tight end coverage?
44:20
Speaker 3: You know, and this is something we.
44:21
Speaker 2: Talked a lot about. Do you address it with a safety?
44:23
Speaker 2: Do you address it with one of these guys?
44:25
Speaker 1: I mean, I look at you know, a guy like
44:26
Speaker 1: Jake golda who's a little bit bigger, maybe more of
44:28
Speaker 1: the Julyani Tavai type of linebacker that would play the
44:32
Speaker 1: strong side a little bit. He's another one in that range,
44:34
Speaker 1: as well as Josiah Trotter as another bloodlines kind of
44:38
Speaker 1: a guy.
44:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think Rabel loves Jack Golday, I mean
44:42
Speaker 5: just the way Jake gold excuse me, the way that
44:44
Speaker 5: he plays his motor, the explosiveness to the football. Maybe
44:49
Speaker 5: a little bit raw in terms of processing the game
44:52
Speaker 5: right now, Like you see a little bit of hesitation
44:55
Speaker 5: with him reading plays, but once he shoots his shot, man,
44:58
Speaker 5: I mean, that guy's out of a can to the football.
45:01
Speaker 3: He looks to me like a guy that'd be able
45:02
Speaker 3: to dominate on special teams too. Yeah, which these kinds
45:05
Speaker 3: of guys are going to have.
45:06
Speaker 5: To fantastic athlete, you know, at the combine as well.
45:10
Speaker 5: So I look at this as like, if you know,
45:13
Speaker 5: gold is probably a little bit too high for them,
45:15
Speaker 5: you know, he's probably gonna be a second round pick.
45:18
Speaker 5: But you put him, you know, next to Robert Splaine
45:21
Speaker 5: for a year, attach him to his hip, you know,
45:23
Speaker 5: follow him around, study film with him, you know, get
45:26
Speaker 5: to know that instinct in that you know, play processing
45:29
Speaker 5: and reading blocks and all that good stuff. And Golde
45:32
Speaker 5: has got all the tools to just be a heck
45:34
Speaker 5: of a linebacker at the next level. So I could
45:38
Speaker 5: go on and on about this class, but I think, what, Douce,
45:40
Speaker 5: you just hit on it a little bit. Are you
45:42
Speaker 5: looking for somebody that's complimentary to Robert Splaine or are
45:46
Speaker 5: you looking for somebody in the pipeline to eventually replace
45:49
Speaker 5: Robert Splaine? Because I think that those are two very
45:51
Speaker 5: different things. You know, if you're looking for a player
45:54
Speaker 5: that's complimentary, you're talking about a week sidelinebacker that can
45:57
Speaker 5: cover that maybe can cover tight ends, that has some
46:00
Speaker 5: sideline to sideline speed, you know, that sort of thing.
46:02
Speaker 5: And I think you get into the Kyle Lewis's and
46:05
Speaker 5: Harold perkins Is and those types of guys, when you
46:07
Speaker 5: start talking about that, if you want somebody that's gonna
46:11
Speaker 5: replace Roberts playing in the year, you know that's a
46:14
Speaker 5: true mic like that's a true organizer, conductor of your defense.
46:19
Speaker 5: That's a very different type of player in the class
46:23
Speaker 5: like this. So it's a flavors thing again. But I
46:26
Speaker 5: think in all these defensive positions, safety, linebacker, it's a
46:30
Speaker 5: are you trying to improve the twenty twenty six team
46:33
Speaker 5: or are you trying to keep the pipeline stocked for
46:35
Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven and beyond.
46:37
Speaker 7: Just to jump in, I mean you mentioned Paul mentioned
46:39
Speaker 7: kJ Britt, the signing kJ Britt, you want to also
46:42
Speaker 7: know what type of player he's going to be for
46:43
Speaker 7: your defense, And I mean he shows flashes against the run.
46:47
Speaker 4: But he also shows splashes against the passing game.
46:50
Speaker 7: So you know how much value will kJ Britt have
46:53
Speaker 7: in the passing game to help you make the decision
46:54
Speaker 7: at linebacker that you might be interested in or might
46:57
Speaker 7: be looking for.
46:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I got to mention Jacob a Vegas
47:00
Speaker 1: because he had a crazy season, and like I said,
47:03
Speaker 1: I've seen Max with eight first round taking him probably
47:05
Speaker 1: more in the mold of Spallane, but I mean seven
47:08
Speaker 1: force fumbles this year to return for touchdown.
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Speaker 2: Talk about a conductor. He got a neck that's about
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Speaker 2: thirty five inches wide.
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Speaker 3: I mean he was. He was so good for Texas
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Speaker 3: Tech that he actually got like legitimate Heisman consideration. I
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Speaker 3: mean that's you know, you have to have a pretty
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Speaker 3: special year on defense to get to do that, and
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Speaker 3: he did, and that was a terrific defense. You know,
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Speaker 3: we talked a lot about and rightly so the Ohio
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Speaker 3: State guys Texas Tech had a lot of as the
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Speaker 3: you know as they say, dudes playing defense as well.
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Speaker 3: So he's he's an impressive athlete, did a lot of
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Speaker 3: different things. He's you know, you look into his story
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Speaker 3: a little bit too. He's an interesting guy.
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Speaker 2: Massive black helop copter pilot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's and this is just stuff I know
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Speaker 3: from watching games randomly on Saturday Texas Tech. Like, I
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Speaker 3: didn't really do much research on him in the draft process,
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Speaker 3: but he's a guy that every time you watch Texas Tech,
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Speaker 3: like it's impossible not to notice him, like ten times.
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Speaker 2: Great mustache too.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a really good player. I The one thing
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Speaker 5: I will say though about these types of linebackers, Like
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Speaker 5: does anybody hit anybody anymore? Because like that, that part
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Speaker 5: of it did drive me a little bit nuts with
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Speaker 5: someone watching some of these guys, I can I know
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Speaker 5: why they're good. I can tell why they're good too.
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Speaker 5: I the old school in me just loves the Dante
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Speaker 5: high towers, right, Like, who's the guy that's gonna take
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Speaker 5: on the blocks, Who's the guy that's gonna, you know,
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Speaker 5: have these big finishes on the ball. Like that's not
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Speaker 5: the guys we're talking about, Like, that's not Jacob Rodriguez,
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Speaker 5: That's not this class. So a little piece of me
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Speaker 5: when I was watching him was like, go hit somebody, man,
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Speaker 5: Like come on, you know, yeah, Like he's just kind
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Speaker 5: of like running around. But I do really like him.
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Speaker 5: You know, he's kind of top fifty player, I would
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Speaker 5: say in that sort of mold I mentioned Kyle Lewis
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Speaker 5: from Pittsburgh. I don't know who's gonna draft Carol Perkins.
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Speaker 5: I don't know where he's gonna play. I don't know
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Speaker 5: what his future holds. But the right coach gets a
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Speaker 5: hold of Harold Perkins is going to turn that guy
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Speaker 5: into a superstar. And they just have to figure out
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Speaker 5: exactly where to play him. I mean to run a
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Speaker 5: four to three eight at He.
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Speaker 3: Just came off a great protest, Yeah right, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 5: Like there's got to be a role for him in
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Speaker 5: an NFL defense, you know, is it nickel star box
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Speaker 5: on the line of scrimmage?
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Speaker 4: More like a Rover guy too.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if Again, if they're trying to
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Speaker 5: be complimentary to Robert Splaine, you kind of let Robert
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Speaker 5: Splain do the dirty work. You let him do the
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Speaker 5: the regular stuff, and you let Harold Perkins just be
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Speaker 5: an athlete and fly around. And I can't help but
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Speaker 5: think that would be awesome.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That gives back to how do you divvy it up?
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Speaker 1: Do you want big safeties? Do you want fast linebackers?
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Speaker 1: Anybody else? You guys want to mention here as we
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Speaker 1: start to put a bow on this epic episode.
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Speaker 7: I mean, one of the guys I like, just Justin
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Speaker 7: Jefferson out of Alabama. Of course, not Justin Jefferson the wide
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Speaker 7: receiver from Minnesota, but Justin Jefferson from Alabama. I really
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Speaker 7: like him, you know, kind of your balt linebacker can
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Speaker 7: help in the covers game, but another another stuffer.
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Speaker 4: So I like him a lot.
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Speaker 1: I kind of like Deontaylston too, and the other two
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Speaker 1: time captain guy can run pretty well rough.
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Speaker 2: But you know, maybe this is a developmental position too.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I had both good names. I would just mention,
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Speaker 5: you know, because I was talking about kind of guys
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Speaker 5: that could replace Robertsplaine in the future. In the pipeline,
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Speaker 5: Aidan Fisher from Indiana was Indiana's Roberts plane. You know,
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Speaker 5: he's he was there. Captain Mike Linebacker made all the
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Speaker 5: calls on the field, made a lot of plays for
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Speaker 5: that defense, obviously won a national championship there with the Hoosiers.
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Speaker 5: He to me is one of the more fun like
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Speaker 5: fourth round targets. And then I would also mention, you
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Speaker 5: know Bryce Betcher from Oregon kind of similar Mole played
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Speaker 5: some safety at Oregon to started his career, then went
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Speaker 5: down in the box and played more linebacker baseball player
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Speaker 5: drafted in the MLB already as well, So good athlete.
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Speaker 5: I think both those guys are future field generals. Like
50:57
Speaker 5: both those guys are gonna wear the green dot. They're
50:59
Speaker 5: gonna play my climbbacker. So if you again want to
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Speaker 5: draft you know, Robert Spoayne's successor, then attach him to
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Speaker 5: his hip for a year, let Aiden Fisher you know
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Speaker 5: or better learn under Splaine, and then eventually replaced Spoyne
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Speaker 5: down the road.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, great stuff, a lot there to unpack,
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Speaker 1: big positions in need. That's going to do it for
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Speaker 2: But don't worry, we'll be.
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Speaker 1: Back next week as the draft is quickly approaching. Don't worry,
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Speaker 1: got you covered till then