Latest / David Pollack Primetime / Mamdani’s 9/11
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- 0:10Speaker 1: TONIGHT, THE WAR WITH IRAN HEATS UP. IN A SINGLE DAY,
- 0:14Speaker 1: THE U.S. SENT FIVE IRANIAN OIL TANKERS TO THE BOTTOM
- 0:18Speaker 1: OF THE SEA. WE'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THIS WAR STANDS
- 0:22Speaker 1: RIGHT NOW AND ITS WEAPONIZATION. WATCH WEDNESDAY, THE STORY OF
- 0:27Speaker 1: A DECORATED POLICE OFFICER OF THE OBAMA JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SENT
- 0:31Speaker 1: TO FEDERAL PRISON FOR THE CRIME OF ARRESTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I'M SERIOUS. This Friday marks 25 years since the darkest
- 0:45Speaker 1: morning New York has ever known. 25 years since nearly 3,000
- 0:50Speaker 1: innocent Americans were taken in an act of pure evil
- 0:53Speaker 1: and an act of Islamic terror on a clear September day.
- 0:59Speaker 1: And we promise never to forget. And on this sacred
- 1:02Speaker 1: anniversary at Ground Zero, the man who now runs New
- 1:07Speaker 1: York City The Islamo-Marxist Mayor Zoran Mundani, well, he intends
- 1:14Speaker 1: to show up uninvited to stand next to the families
- 1:19Speaker 1: and take part in the ceremony, even though they asked
- 1:23Speaker 1: him not to come. In fact, nearly 100,000 people have
- 1:28Speaker 1: signed their names to a petition begging him not to.
- 1:32Speaker 1: AND THESE ARE NOT POLITICAL OPERATIVES. THESE ARE THE MOTHERS
- 1:35Speaker 1: AND THE FATHERS, THE WIDOWS AND THE CHILDREN WHO LOST
- 1:38Speaker 1: SOMEONE THEY LOVED IN THOSE TOWERS. THE RETIRED PORT AUTHORITY
- 1:43Speaker 1: OFFICERS WHO CARRIED THE DEBT OUT OF THE RUBBLE. EVEN
- 1:45Speaker 1: THE GOVERNOR WHO LED THE STATE THROUGH THAT DAY, GEORGE PETAKI,
- 1:49Speaker 1: THEY GATHERED ON THE STEPS OF CITY HALL THIS WEEK
- 1:52Speaker 1: TO SAY IT AS PLAINLY AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Is serving himself, not the people. We all went through
- 2:08Speaker 2: a traumatic event and we had politicians that were by
- 2:14Speaker 2: our side helping us, inviting us into their homes, caring
- 2:20Speaker 2: about us. We don't want a mayor who only wants
- 2:27Speaker 2: to be there for the publicity. This mayor is not
- 2:33Speaker 2: serving us. He's serving himself. We are asking respectfully that
- 2:41Speaker 2: he not show up.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Do not come. That's the message. And in the face
- 2:47Speaker 1: of that message, he's going to show up anyway, almost
- 2:51Speaker 1: mocking the solemn anniversary with his presence. And there's a
- 2:54Speaker 1: good reason they don't want him there. And it's not
- 2:56Speaker 1: just because he's Muslim. It's also because of the Muslims
- 3:03Speaker 1: he associates with. This is a mayor whose close friend
- 3:07Speaker 1: and booster, the streamer Hasan Piker, once declared that America
- 3:13Speaker 1: deserved 9-11, a comment Mandani would not initially condemn. THIS
- 3:19Speaker 1: IS A MAYOR WHO JUST HANDED THE JOB OF THE
- 3:21Speaker 1: CITY'S TOP LEGAL COUNCIL TO AN ATTORNEY WHO ONCE DEFENDED
- 3:24Speaker 1: A CONVICTED AL QAEDA TERRORIST WHOSE OWN BROTHER-IN-LAW WAS AMONG
- 3:31Speaker 1: THE HIJACKERS WHO MURDERED THOSE PEOPLE ON 9-11. I'M SERIOUS.
- 3:37Speaker 1: AND THIS IS A MAYOR WHOSE OWN MESSAGE MARKING 9-11
- 3:41Speaker 1: MOURNED AT LENGTH THE WARS THAT CAME AFTER 9-11 IN
- 3:46Speaker 1: RETRIBUTION FOR 9-11. while somehow not even finding the time
- 3:52Speaker 1: to mention the Islamic terrorists who flew the planes into
- 3:56Speaker 1: those buildings. The families have noticed all of it, and
- 4:01Speaker 1: they asked him respectfully to let them have their hours
- 4:06Speaker 1: of mourning in peace from 7 to 11 on the
- 4:10Speaker 1: 25th anniversary of the worst day of their lives. And
- 4:13Speaker 1: you know what he told them? No, no, I'm coming anyway.
- 4:17Speaker 1: to talk about what that says about this mayor and
- 4:21Speaker 1: about the solemn week in our history. Let's bring in
- 4:24Speaker 1: my next guest. She's an investigative journalist, host of The
- 4:27Speaker 1: Mel K Show, and author of Infiltration Instead of Invasion.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Mel K, welcome to David Pollak Primetime. Look, 25 years ago,
- 4:39Speaker 1: since 9-11. We ask all the time, have we forgotten?
- 4:44Speaker 1: And I think New York has. They elected Zoran Mandani. But,
- 4:49Speaker 1: I mean, the family said, Zoran, just stay home. Just
- 4:51Speaker 1: stay home. Your presence here insults us. 100,000 people said,
- 4:55Speaker 1: don't show up. You're friends with people who think 9-11,
- 4:58Speaker 1: America deserved 9-11. And he's saying, you know what? I
- 5:00Speaker 1: don't care what you say. I'm showing up anyway. What
- 5:03Speaker 1: do we make of this?
- 5:04Speaker 3: This is the more, you know, they're very provocative. They
- 5:08Speaker 3: want to be in the spotlight. The bottom line is
- 5:11Speaker 3: we have to respect the families first and that he can't.
- 5:14Speaker 3: And that 101,000 New Yorkers signed that essentially overnight asking
- 5:19Speaker 3: him not to come. And if it was reversed, you know.
- 5:22Speaker 3: We know what would happen if it was reversed and
- 5:24Speaker 3: that they asked us not to come or the people
- 5:27Speaker 3: not to come to something that was for his community.
- 5:31Speaker 3: I believe that it would be respected. The other thing
- 5:33Speaker 3: is that we're still dealing with the Patriot Act. We
- 5:37Speaker 3: are still dealing with all kinds of threats on our soil.
- 5:40Speaker 3: There's a lot of things going on right now in America.
- 5:42Speaker 3: We also have the anniversary of October 7th coming up.
- 5:46Speaker 3: We have now back in the news the Saudi Arabia
- 5:50Speaker 3: trial of the hijackers. It's a very heated time and
- 5:56Speaker 3: out of respect. Just not showing up would be the
- 5:59Speaker 3: right thing to do. But I don't think that he
- 6:00Speaker 3: cares that much about that. And in fact, he just
- 6:03Speaker 3: signed some kind of declaration and handed the pen over
- 6:05Speaker 3: to one of the terrorist lawyers. So look, I mean,
- 6:10Speaker 3: I think that we're all being played. We're all being manipulated.
- 6:13Speaker 3: And he probably won't even just show up alone. He'll
- 6:16Speaker 3: probably show up surrounded by his group of people that
- 6:20Speaker 3: were all, you know, essentially agreeing and nodding when they
- 6:23Speaker 3: were talking about America deserving 9-11. And then I saw
- 6:26Speaker 3: earlier that they were talking about Hassan Piker and the
- 6:29Speaker 3: rest of his other friends from the Democrat Socialists about
- 6:32Speaker 3: all the damage that has been done to the rest
- 6:34Speaker 3: of the world since 9-11, barely even mentioning that 9-11 happened.
- 6:39Speaker 1: So, you know. It's so terrible. And then you and
- 6:45Speaker 1: it's not the fact that he's Muslim, like a lot
- 6:46Speaker 1: of people say just because he's Muslim, he shouldn't be there.
- 6:48Speaker 1: But I don't think it's just because of that. I
- 6:51Speaker 1: think it's also because of his attitude towards 9-11. And
- 6:53Speaker 1: like you said, his friend's attitude towards 9-11. But, you know,
- 6:57Speaker 1: 9-11 affected the whole nation. It certainly affected New York
- 7:00Speaker 1: more than anywhere else. And obviously New Yorkers are coming
- 7:02Speaker 1: around and rallying. to keep him from showing up. He's
- 7:05Speaker 1: going to show up anywhere, anyway. What do you think
- 7:09Speaker 1: is going to happen? Because I'm looking ahead towards 9-11,
- 7:12Speaker 1: and I can imagine people are going to be upset
- 7:14Speaker 1: if he shows up. Look, 100,000 people already asked him
- 7:17Speaker 1: not to be there. I can see this turning into something...
- 7:20Speaker 1: pretty ugly on a day that should be solemn and
- 7:23Speaker 1: in remembrance. I hope it doesn't turn out that way.
- 7:25Speaker 1: But he doesn't care. I think he would actually be
- 7:28Speaker 1: happy if it turned into something because he would use
- 7:30Speaker 1: it as a campaign point to say how divided we
- 7:33Speaker 1: are and blame Trump or something. But I mean, I
- 7:36Speaker 1: just really hope this. What do you think is going
- 7:38Speaker 1: to happen?
- 7:39Speaker 3: Well, I think we have to pay attention to the
- 7:41Speaker 3: NGOs that are funding a lot of the protests, particularly,
- 7:45Speaker 3: I mean, I'm worried about the groups that have not
- 7:47Speaker 3: been dealt with from Columbia, from NYU, from all the universities.
- 7:52Speaker 3: They have very robust pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas groups there. I would
- 7:56Speaker 3: be more concerned about that. And on the other side,
- 7:59Speaker 3: I'd be concerned about what is happening to the morale
- 8:01Speaker 3: and the ability of the NYPD to police at all.
- 8:05Speaker 3: So we have a powder keg here, and the right
- 8:07Speaker 3: thing to do would be to be an adult.
- 8:09Speaker 1: And do this.
- 8:10Speaker 3: But I have not seen there be enough repercussions for
- 8:15Speaker 3: everything that has happened leading up to this time or
- 8:18Speaker 3: for anything that's happening with the tremendous rise in anti-Semitic
- 8:22Speaker 3: hate in New York especially and all the rise in attacks.
- 8:27Speaker 3: I just personally think that, from all sides, this is
- 8:30Speaker 3: a bad situation. But I do not put it past
- 8:33Speaker 3: the pro-Palestinian movement, the Muslim Students Association, CARE, or any
- 8:37Speaker 3: of the tentacles of the Muslim Brotherhood to encourage people
- 8:41Speaker 3: to show up with counter-protests. That is what they're doing.
- 8:44Speaker 3: And they really, really want to divide the country as
- 8:47Speaker 3: much as possible before the midterms. And so I would
- 8:50Speaker 3: say brace for it. But I think the families will
- 8:52Speaker 3: show up proud and stronger than ever, and maybe a
- 8:55Speaker 3: lot more people than normally will show up. But let's
- 8:58Speaker 3: just hope for the best. I just know that we
- 9:00Speaker 3: have a serious NGO, nonprofit problem that is paying for
- 9:05Speaker 3: a lot of this on the ground. And for them,
- 9:07Speaker 3: something like this is a you know, like you said,
- 9:10Speaker 3: it's like a win to show up. Like, we'll show
- 9:12Speaker 3: those stupid American New Yorkers. That is their mentality, and
- 9:16Speaker 3: we've seen it over the past three years nonstop.
- 9:19Speaker 1: It's so sad. And it really speaks to the title
- 9:21Speaker 1: of your book, Infiltration Instead of Invasion, because what do
- 9:24Speaker 1: you have? 25 years ago, it looked like an attack,
- 9:28Speaker 1: but in the 25 years since, they have infiltrated many
- 9:32Speaker 1: parts of the United States. Oh, yeah. In another... segment
- 9:35Speaker 1: of the show, Representative Self was on here talking about
- 9:38Speaker 1: the spread of Sharia in Texas and has stopped to
- 9:40Speaker 1: fight it. I mean, 25 years later, we're fighting Sharia.
- 9:44Speaker 1: There's more anger towards Jews regarding 9-11 than there is
- 9:47Speaker 1: towards Muslims. The Muslim mayor in New York is saying,
- 9:50Speaker 1: I'm showing up anyway. I don't care if you want
- 9:52Speaker 1: me here. I mean, we have been infiltrated then, right?
- 9:56Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. And we have to remember, this is a
- 9:58Speaker 3: long game plan from 1991.
- 10:00Speaker 4: 1991.
- 10:00Speaker 3: People forget that it was actually Hillary Clinton as the
- 10:03Speaker 3: first lady that brought in Uma Abedin, started to normalize
- 10:06Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama was involved in the Arab Spring,
- 10:10Speaker 3: putting in the Muslim Brotherhood who got ousted in Egypt.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Now Florida and Texas are calling the Muslim Brotherhood in care,
- 10:19Speaker 3: terrorist organizations. And on top of all of this stuff
- 10:22Speaker 3: that we're dealing with now, We had 60,000 unvetted Afghans
- 10:27Speaker 3: come into this country. We have a growing problem around
- 10:31Speaker 3: the country of Sharia and halal. And it's not made up.
- 10:36Speaker 3: It is real. It is in the 1991 documents. It
- 10:39Speaker 3: was exposed in the Holy Land Foundation. And never forget,
- 10:43Speaker 3: during the Obama and Holder administration, they essentially erased a
- 10:46Speaker 3: lot of very important information that was collected after 9-11
- 10:51Speaker 3: because it was offensive to Muslims. And Islamophobia came in
- 10:55Speaker 3: and became some real thing. But the truth is that
- 11:00Speaker 3: there are things to fear on U.S.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Soil.
- 11:02Speaker 3: There are threats coming to us from all over the world.
- 11:05Speaker 3: And like I said, October 7th, I believe that they
- 11:08Speaker 3: are planning to have some kind of celebration— as opposed
- 11:12Speaker 3: to a morning day. And again, the lie was that
- 11:17Speaker 3: we got the Patriot Act, which I believe to be
- 11:19Speaker 3: fully unconstitutional, to keep them there.
- 11:22Speaker 4: And us safe here.
- 11:23Speaker 3: And instead, they opened the floodgates to Yemen, to Somalia,
- 11:27Speaker 3: to everywhere in the world, and then turned the Patriot
- 11:30Speaker 3: Act on us. So we got a lot of problems
- 11:32Speaker 3: to deal with in the aftermath of 9-11, including the
- 11:35Speaker 3: Patriot Act and what it has been weaponized as, and
- 11:38Speaker 3: this idea that, you know, we can't—that separation of church
- 11:42Speaker 3: and state, except for Islam. They have the whole fatwa
- 11:46Speaker 3: out now that every Muslim of voting age has to
- 11:50Speaker 3: vote for in the name of Allah coming up in
- 11:53Speaker 3: the election. If any other religion did that, it would
- 11:55Speaker 3: be the biggest problem. So what has happened is truly
- 11:58Speaker 3: like an inversion of everything we were promised right after 9-11.
- 12:02Speaker 3: And then, of course, the whole war on terror and
- 12:04Speaker 3: everything now. We just really have to get ourselves together
- 12:08Speaker 3: and realize that America is worth saving, but not that
- 12:13Speaker 3: everyone that is in this country and claims to follow
- 12:16Speaker 3: the Constitution really does care about this country. They care
- 12:19Speaker 3: more about, I believe, destroying it from within.
- 12:21Speaker 4: Wow.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people feel that way. I mean,
- 12:23Speaker 1: you look— I was at the airport with my daughter, and
- 12:26Speaker 1: I saw her getting— a 15-year-old getting patted down by TSA.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, I'm like, they won. Look
- 12:31Speaker 1: what's happening in New York. Look what's happening in Texas.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Look at, you know, and it's, gosh, on the 25th
- 12:36Speaker 1: anniversary of 9-11, I thought we'd be in a better spot.
- 12:39Speaker 1: We still fight, though, and we won't forget. Mel Kay,
- 12:42Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Everybody go check
- 12:45Speaker 1: out her amazing book about the infiltration instead of invasion.
- 12:49Speaker 1: And I appreciate you being here. Look forward to having
- 12:51Speaker 1: you back real soon. Thank you, sir.
- 12:53Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Thank you. Still ahead tonight, Congressman Keith Self on the
- 12:58Speaker 1: fight to stop Sharia law from taking root right here
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- 14:02Speaker 1: From an Islamo-Marxist mayor in New York City with a
- 14:06Speaker 1: documented soft spot for the enemies of 9-11 to the quiet,
- 14:10Speaker 1: deliberate spread of Sharia law right here in the American heartland.
- 14:14Speaker 1: 25 years after that clear September morning, the question that
- 14:19Speaker 1: should haunt every single one of us is a simple one.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Have we forgotten? Because down in Texas, one congressman has
- 14:26Speaker 1: decided that we won't And it started in his own backyard,
- 14:30Speaker 1: a group tied to an Islamic center near Plano drew
- 14:33Speaker 1: up plans for a sprawling private community, more than a
- 14:37Speaker 1: thousand homes, a mosque, its own schools. A development, Governor
- 14:41Speaker 1: Greg Abbott says, was engineered that only Muslims could live there,
- 14:46Speaker 1: governed by Islamic law, Sharia law. AND TEXAS MOVED FAST.
- 14:51Speaker 1: ABBOTT SIGNED A LAW BANNING WHAT HE CALLS SHARIA COMPOUNDS.
- 14:55Speaker 1: AND THE VOTERS OF TEXAS DIDN'T LEAVE IT TO THE POLITICIANS.
- 14:57Speaker 1: THEY WENT TO THE BALLOT BOX AND PASSED PROPOSITION 10,
- 15:00Speaker 1: AN OUTRIGHT BAN ON SHARIA LAW IN THE LONESTAR STATE.
- 15:04Speaker 1: TEXAS CONGRESSMAN LOOKED AT WHAT WAS HAPPENING NOT JUST IN
- 15:08Speaker 1: TEXAS BUT IN FRANCE AND IN ENGLAND AND ACROSS AMERICA
- 15:11Speaker 1: WHERE HE WARNED ENTIRE NATIONS ARE LOSING THEIR IDENTITY AND
- 15:14Speaker 1: THEIR SOVEREIGNTY. He and Congressman Chip Roy launched the Sharia
- 15:22Speaker 1: Free America Caucus, and in nine months, it has gone
- 15:26Speaker 1: from two men to roughly 60 members of Congress from
- 15:29Speaker 1: 25 states, nearly half of the House of Representatives. They
- 15:32Speaker 1: have taken over the House floor for hours at a time,
- 15:36Speaker 1: and they're not just talking. They've put seven bills on
- 15:39Speaker 1: the table. Self himself wrote the No Sharia Act to
- 15:42Speaker 1: bar any American court from ever enforcing Islamic law over
- 15:46Speaker 1: the Constitution. There are measures to finally designate the Muslim
- 15:50Speaker 1: Brotherhood and CARE, K-C-A-I-R, as the terrorist organizations they are.
- 15:57Speaker 1: And this month, Self is forcing the entire House of
- 16:01Speaker 1: Representatives to go on the record to vote up or
- 16:04Speaker 1: down on a resolution that says the only law in
- 16:07Speaker 1: America is the Constitution of the United States, not Sharia,
- 16:12Speaker 1: not any foreign code. That's it. See how many Democrats
- 16:15Speaker 1: vote yes or no on that. 25 years ago, they
- 16:20Speaker 1: came for us with box cutters and airplanes. The threat
- 16:23Speaker 1: today is quieter, and it's patient, and it works through
- 16:27Speaker 1: our own courts and our own zoning boards, and one
- 16:30Speaker 1: Texan has made it his mission to stop it. He
- 16:32Speaker 1: joins me now. Congressman Keith Self, welcome back to David
- 16:36Speaker 1: Pollak Prime Time. I can't believe, and I've talked about
- 16:39Speaker 1: this in this segment before, I cannot believe that that
- 16:43Speaker 1: 25 years after 9-11, we're having to fight to keep
- 16:47Speaker 1: Islamic law from becoming law in a state in America. Congressman,
- 16:53Speaker 1: thank you for your fight on that. What's your take
- 16:54Speaker 1: on all this?
- 16:56Speaker 6: It is absolutely amazing that we have a Muslim mayor
- 17:01Speaker 6: of New York City, ground zero, New York City. So
- 17:05Speaker 6: my take on this is we've got to stop this now.
- 17:07Speaker 6: We've got to wake up Americans to the danger. Because
- 17:11Speaker 6: this will not coexist with the U.S.
- 17:13Speaker 4: Constitution.
- 17:14Speaker 6: They have no intention. They are commanded to replace the U.S.
- 17:19Speaker 4: Constitution.
- 17:19Speaker 6: I simply want to get the House of Representatives on
- 17:22Speaker 6: the record with a vote.
- 17:24Speaker 4: That's all this is. It's a non-binding resolution.
- 17:27Speaker 6: I want everybody to have to vote whether they will
- 17:30Speaker 6: ban Sharia, basically say it has no place in America,
- 17:35Speaker 6: or vote yes or no.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems we know how that's going to go,
- 17:39Speaker 1: by the way. I think it'll fall on partisan lines,
- 17:42Speaker 1: which is absolutely insane. Sharia, and for the folks at
- 17:46Speaker 1: home who may be just hearing the term Sharia, we
- 17:48Speaker 1: did an entire episode on Sharia law and the threat
- 17:50Speaker 1: it posed with Frank Gaffney a couple of months ago.
- 17:53Speaker 1: But basically, Sharia law is the law of the, I guess,
- 17:59Speaker 1: I mean, how do we say it? It's the law
- 18:01Speaker 1: in the Quran that supersedes in the Islamic faith the
- 18:05Speaker 1: Constitution and the law itself. And they want to institute
- 18:07Speaker 1: that above the Constitution. And they want to go as
- 18:10Speaker 1: far as creating entire communities that would have their own
- 18:13Speaker 1: set of rules that isn't even consistent with the Constitution.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Texas blocked it. But that's the way these groups are thinking.
- 18:20Speaker 1: They want to replace the U.S. Constitution, replace U.S. law
- 18:23Speaker 1: with Sharia law. And it's a pretty barbaric type RULE.
- 18:26Speaker 1: IT ALLOWS FOR THINGS LIKE MARRYING MINORS. IT ALLOWS BEATING
- 18:29Speaker 1: AND ABUSING WIVES. I MEAN, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT AMERICANS
- 18:34Speaker 1: WANT TO SEE IN OUR STREETS, RIGHT?
- 18:37Speaker 6: THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THEY THINK IT FALLS UNDER
- 18:39Speaker 6: A RELIGION. But you and I understand faith. Matters of
- 18:44Speaker 6: conscience belong to you. This is conduct under the law
- 18:47Speaker 6: of the United States. You've talked about a few. Child marriage, polygamy,
- 18:52Speaker 6: women's rights. Women inherit half as much. Women's testimony is
- 18:56Speaker 6: worth half as much. If you want to leave Islam,
- 18:59Speaker 6: you die. It goes on and on.
- 19:02Speaker 4: It is barbaric. And it is not.
- 19:07Speaker 6: It is not compatible with the United States Constitution.
- 19:11Speaker 1: And again, I.
- 19:11Speaker 4: Say they don't want to live alongside the U.S. Constitution.
- 19:15Speaker 4: They want to replace it. They are commanded to replace it.
- 19:19Speaker 6: Sharia means the path to Islam, and Islam means submission.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing is, you know, a lot of
- 19:26Speaker 1: people will be quick to call this conversation Islamophobic. I
- 19:30Speaker 1: can just see the headlines now. You know, OAN has
- 19:32Speaker 1: an Islamophobic conversation with congressmen from Texas. But what they're
- 19:36Speaker 1: branding as Islamophobic is really just America. We're talking about
- 19:39Speaker 1: awareness because you're exactly right. I have spoken to Muslims
- 19:42Speaker 1: from various, whether SHIA OR SUNNI, THEY HAVE ALL AGREED
- 19:45Speaker 1: THAT alongside Christians or Jews in the United States. They
- 19:59Speaker 1: plan to replace them. And we've seen it happening in
- 20:02Speaker 1: places like New York. You're seeing it. It's spread in Texas,
- 20:04Speaker 1: Texas of all places. This is the fight that they're
- 20:07Speaker 1: bringing to us. And on the 25th anniversary of 9-11,
- 20:10Speaker 1: in just a couple of days, I mean, this is
- 20:13Speaker 1: the real threat. And because we want to avoid offending
- 20:16Speaker 1: anybody or being accused of being Islamophobic, we're going to
- 20:18Speaker 1: ignore the real threat that we're facing in our communities.
- 20:21Speaker 1: But you're going to stop this with legislation, right?
- 20:25Speaker 6: Legislation is very difficult to get through the Congress. This
- 20:27Speaker 6: is why I had a meeting with state legislators in
- 20:30Speaker 6: Texas about a week ago, because this is where Texas
- 20:33Speaker 6: must lead the way.
- 20:34Speaker 4: They've stopped nothing yet. They're working on it.
- 20:37Speaker 6: They've delayed some things, but Texas legislators must step up.
- 20:42Speaker 6: Citizens must step up, like they did in McKinney, to
- 20:46Speaker 6: tell the city council, we do not want this. I
- 20:49Speaker 6: encourage citizens to go to city council meetings, school board meetings,
- 20:54Speaker 6: county commissioner court meetings. Make your decision known that you're
- 20:59Speaker 6: part of the 95 percent of Republicans that said, no,
- 21:03Speaker 6: we want to ban Sharia.
- 21:05Speaker 1: It has to happen. The threat is real. I encourage
- 21:07Speaker 1: everybody to go and look it up. Look at what's
- 21:10Speaker 1: actually happening in America and look at those countries that
- 21:13Speaker 1: have implemented Sharia law and look what life is like
- 21:16Speaker 1: for people inside. It is a real threat. We need
- 21:19Speaker 1: to pay attention to it. Congressman, thank you so much
- 21:21Speaker 1: for your fight on this and thank you so much
- 21:22Speaker 1: for being here today as always.
- 21:24Speaker 4: Thank you, David. Thank you.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Coming up, the war with Iran is intensifying. Five Iranian
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- 23:24Speaker 1: From the Afghan war following 9-11 to Iran, it seems
- 23:28Speaker 1: we just can't get out of the Middle East, but
- 23:30Speaker 1: we might be close. It seems the region is losing
- 23:35Speaker 1: its patience with Iran, and Trump clearly has the upper
- 23:39Speaker 1: hand both economically and militarily in that conflict. Now, at
- 23:43Speaker 1: this point, I think Iran wishes it could go back
- 23:45Speaker 1: to that MOU signed back in June. Remember the Islamabad memorandum,
- 23:50Speaker 1: an agreement meant to wind down this war with a
- 23:53Speaker 1: 60-day window to negotiate a deal in lasting peace? That framework, unfortunately,
- 23:58Speaker 1: hasn't held. Here is the arc of what's happened since
- 24:01Speaker 1: the ceasefire began. And then the fighting just didn't really stop.
- 24:07Speaker 1: American forces cleared the mines Iran had scattered across the
- 24:09Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz. and reopened the world's most important shipping
- 24:13Speaker 1: lane for energy. Then Iran moved to close it again,
- 24:16Speaker 1: trying to remine those waters. The United States forces, they
- 24:19Speaker 1: weren't having it. They destroyed the mine launchers before Iran
- 24:23Speaker 1: could finish the job. Iran didn't like it, retaliated. And
- 24:27Speaker 1: from that moment on, it's been a back and forth fight.
- 24:30Speaker 1: America strikes, then pauses. Iran tries to hit back, calm
- 24:34Speaker 1: for a couple of days. And then the whole thing
- 24:36Speaker 1: starts over again. This week brought the sharpest exchange yet.
- 24:40Speaker 1: After Iran's Revolutionary Guard tried twice to strike an American warship, U.S.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Central Command carried out the largest single day of strikes
- 24:48Speaker 1: in the entire war, striking five Iranian tankers and releasing
- 24:53Speaker 1: the video of one of them going straight to the
- 24:56Speaker 1: bottom of the sea. Iran answered with 20 ballistic missiles
- 25:01Speaker 1: fired at an American airbase in Jordan and Jordan's military
- 25:04Speaker 1: says 18 were intercepted. The other two came down in
- 25:07Speaker 1: empty desert somewhere. No one was hurt. Iran, however, went
- 25:12Speaker 1: on television and claimed it has sunk American destroyers and
- 25:16Speaker 1: hit American ships, claims since proven false. So the war moves,
- 25:20Speaker 1: the strikes come, the strikes pause, but through every bit
- 25:24Speaker 1: of it, every missile, every tanker, every round of this thing,
- 25:27Speaker 1: the one thing that actually matters that hasn't changed, the
- 25:31Speaker 1: straight of war moves. According to the United States, It
- 25:34Speaker 1: remains open. The oil is still moving. That tonight is
- 25:38Speaker 1: where things stand. Now to figure out how we got
- 25:39Speaker 1: there and where things go next. I'm excited to welcome
- 25:43Speaker 1: foreign policy analyst Samira Khan. Welcome, David Pollak, Prime Time. Look,
- 25:47Speaker 1: here's where we're at. We're getting really close to Karg Island.
- 25:52Speaker 1: The tankers are being hit now. Iran's inflation is out
- 25:55Speaker 1: of control. Their dollar or their money is worth almost
- 25:59Speaker 1: nothing now. The economic situation is really not good for
- 26:03Speaker 1: the Iranian people. It seems that they're facing a lot
- 26:06Speaker 1: of pressure, the Islamic regime in Iran, both militarily and economically.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Can they hold out much longer? Just this morning, President
- 26:13Speaker 1: Trump said he thinks the war will be over the
- 26:15Speaker 1: second the midterms are over, and he thinks they're holding
- 26:18Speaker 1: on just to impact that. What do you make of
- 26:20Speaker 1: all of this?
- 26:21Speaker 7: Well, you're absolutely correct.
- 26:23Speaker 8: Trump does have the upper hand when it comes to Iran,
- 26:25Speaker 8: both militarily and and economically. However, there are certain interesting
- 26:30Speaker 8: developments that we've seen. It's been a sort of tit-for-tat retaliation,
- 26:35Speaker 8: kinetic action, et cetera, et cetera. But there is no
- 26:38Speaker 8: sort of political resolution to the conflict. And Trump is
- 26:42Speaker 8: not incentivized to go back to the table at the moment. Now, Iran,
- 26:46Speaker 8: like you said, is wishing that they could go back
- 26:48Speaker 8: to the MOU that was signed.
- 26:50Speaker 7: That was very favorable for their interests.
- 26:52Speaker 8: But they decided to overplayed their hand in the Strait
- 26:56Speaker 8: of Hormuz and started shooting at ships, thinking that they
- 26:59Speaker 8: could exert control of the strait. So things are not
- 27:02Speaker 8: looking good for Iran militarily and economically. They are facing
- 27:06Speaker 8: a lot of pressure. They have all acknowledged this internally
- 27:09Speaker 8: within Iran. And also what's important here is that the
- 27:12Speaker 8: other day, the government raised fuel prices double. And the
- 27:17Speaker 8: Iranian people are very upset with this. The opposition is
- 27:20Speaker 8: very upset with this. So that what happens and what
- 27:23Speaker 8: comes out of that remains to be seen.
- 27:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw images of gas lines of people lining
- 27:28Speaker 1: up for hours to try to get fuel at that
- 27:30Speaker 1: increased price. And yeah, the people are really not happy
- 27:33Speaker 1: that this war continues now. I'm sure that when this
- 27:36Speaker 1: war ends, if the Islamic regime is either in place
- 27:40Speaker 1: or not, the conditions can improve for the Iranian people.
- 27:44Speaker 1: But the problem is there's no deal. And right now
- 27:46Speaker 1: there's still an active shooting war. And until that ends,
- 27:49Speaker 1: the United States isn't going to do anything for the IRGC.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Certainly they did have a good deal with the MOU.
- 27:53Speaker 1: A lot of people were upset with that MOU. Israel
- 27:55Speaker 1: was upset with that MOU. And Iran walked away from it.
- 27:58Speaker 1: The fighting continues. I agree with President Trump. I do
- 28:00Speaker 1: believe that the reason why this continues is because I
- 28:04Speaker 1: do believe Iran wants to affect the midterms. And whether
- 28:07Speaker 1: they're doing it on their own or they're being encouraged
- 28:09Speaker 1: to continue on behalf of some other country, that's yet
- 28:12Speaker 1: to be seen. But certainly, Iran can't go on forever.
- 28:15Speaker 1: And early on, I really thought, especially with the public
- 28:19Speaker 1: sentiment in the United States that the United States would
- 28:22Speaker 1: be pressured to kind of stop the fighting before Iran.
- 28:25Speaker 1: But since they started attacking bases in Jordan and Kuwait
- 28:29Speaker 1: and throughout the rest of the Middle East, they've grown,
- 28:32Speaker 1: its neighbors have seemingly grown irritated with Iran. And it
- 28:36Speaker 1: seems the patient is running out for Iran, where in America,
- 28:39Speaker 1: they only care about the oil. So does it look
- 28:42Speaker 1: like the partners in the region might be putting pressure
- 28:45Speaker 1: on Iran as well, and they're becoming isolated based on
- 28:47Speaker 1: their retaliatory actions?
- 28:49Speaker 4: The.
- 28:51Speaker 8: partners in the region are absolutely putting pressure on Iran.
- 28:54Speaker 8: They are trying to sort of create the environment for
- 28:57Speaker 8: them to go back to the table. China is also involved.
- 29:01Speaker 8: Pakistan is involved. Qatar, Saudi Arabia. And a lot of
- 29:04Speaker 8: these Gulf countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.
- 29:07Speaker 7: etc.
- 29:07Speaker 8: have been getting hit. They've been catching the strays, so
- 29:11Speaker 8: to speak, of the U.S. operation in Iran. for the
- 29:14Speaker 8: past six months. And they do not want Iran to fall.
- 29:20Speaker 8: They are very invested in preventing the collapse of Iran,
- 29:24Speaker 8: because that, like we've seen in the past, could have
- 29:27Speaker 8: regional spillover effects that could possibly affect them and Israel,
- 29:31Speaker 8: if you want to go there. But like you said, yes,
- 29:34Speaker 8: I do think that they believe that this will have
- 29:38Speaker 8: some sort of an effect on midterm that the American
- 29:41Speaker 8: people will put pressure on the Trump administration to stop
- 29:44Speaker 8: this war, to come to some sort of political resolution.
- 29:47Speaker 8: But I actually do believe that they are sort of
- 29:50Speaker 8: miscalculating American sentiment here. I mean, we've seen in the
- 29:55Speaker 8: past that wars and military operations like this one they
- 29:59Speaker 8: have not really had that great of an effect on
- 30:02Speaker 8: midterm elections unless it really hits American pockets. And as
- 30:06Speaker 8: of right now, yes, we've seen oil prices go up
- 30:09Speaker 8: and inflation go up, but it has not reached the
- 30:12Speaker 8: level where the American people would actually factor that into
- 30:16Speaker 8: their decision-making from midterms.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the gas prices is the one thing
- 30:19Speaker 1: everybody's talking about. There's a certain amount of folks who
- 30:22Speaker 1: are like, he said no new wars and are upset
- 30:25Speaker 1: about that. But it's really the gas prices and the
- 30:28Speaker 1: price of diesel that's having the biggest impact on the
- 30:31Speaker 1: American people. But relatively stable right now is oil because,
- 30:36Speaker 1: you know, the strait is open. The major deal with
- 30:38Speaker 1: Venezuela to bring oil into the United States and ship
- 30:42Speaker 1: it around the world, HAS REALLY EASED A LOT OF
- 30:44Speaker 1: THAT PRESSURE ON OIL. WE'VE HAD ECONOMISTS ON THE SHOW
- 30:46Speaker 1: TALK ABOUT THE ROCKET VERSUS THE heading into the midterms.
- 30:50Speaker 1: But if Trump can continue to articulate that prices will
- 30:53Speaker 1: come down and they start seeing that release, leave it
- 30:55Speaker 1: at the pump, I do believe it buys President Trump
- 30:57Speaker 1: more time. Now, let me ask you this last question.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Where do you think this ends? Because regime change isn't
- 31:02Speaker 1: one of the stated goals of President Trump. He doesn't
- 31:04Speaker 1: care who's in charge of Iran as long as they're
- 31:06Speaker 1: not clogging up the Strait of Hormuz, as long as
- 31:08Speaker 1: they don't get a nuclear weapon. Those seem to be
- 31:11Speaker 1: the objectives. There was a push early on to restore
- 31:13Speaker 1: the monarchy back in Iran. It doesn't seem like that's
- 31:16Speaker 1: building much momentum. The people of Iran seem split on it.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Certainly the American Iranians want to see the prince back
- 31:22Speaker 1: in charge of Iran. Where do you think this ends?
- 31:25Speaker 1: IRGC remains in control. Monarchy comes back. Where do you
- 31:29Speaker 1: see this ending?
- 31:30Speaker 8: I don't really see much of a chance of the
- 31:32Speaker 8: monarchy coming back. They are very unpopular in Iran. The
- 31:36Speaker 8: Iranian people are not in favor of replacing the current
- 31:39Speaker 8: government with the monarchy, the former monarchy that was taken
- 31:44Speaker 8: down in 1979.
- 31:46Speaker 7: Now, what they do want to see, however, is reforms.
- 31:49Speaker 8: They want economic stability, and they are willing to sort
- 31:52Speaker 8: of give up certain concessions to the United States and
- 31:55Speaker 8: play ball with the United States in order to reach
- 31:58Speaker 8: that level of economic stability. And in this regard, I
- 32:01Speaker 8: would say that regional partners and regional allies of the
- 32:05Speaker 8: United States and partners of Iran, they would also like
- 32:08Speaker 8: to see the same situation because for them, an economically
- 32:12Speaker 8: stable Iran is an economically stable region. It stabilizes the
- 32:17Speaker 8: region both economically, militarily, also politically. And it could also
- 32:22Speaker 8: facilitate Trump's agenda of deprioritizing the Middle East and focusing
- 32:27Speaker 8: more on the Western Hemisphere as well as the Indo-Pacific
- 32:30Speaker 8: and Eastern Europe. And the Middle East is not as
- 32:33Speaker 8: important as it used to be for U.S.
- 32:35Speaker 7: Foreign policy interests. So that is there.
- 32:39Speaker 8: And also, we should also keep an eye out on
- 32:42Speaker 8: the meeting that's going to be happening between President Trump
- 32:44Speaker 8: and President Xi of China. Some sort of economic arrangement
- 32:48Speaker 8: could be made there that will keep oil prices down,
- 32:50Speaker 8: because as reports have shown, China cutting oil imports during
- 32:55Speaker 8: the closure of the Strait of Hormuz actually kept global
- 32:58Speaker 8: oil prices stabilized.
- 33:00Speaker 7: It kept them fairly low, and they prevented them from soaring.
- 33:03Speaker 8: So we just have to see what's going to happen
- 33:05Speaker 8: late September when this meeting does happen.
- 33:08Speaker 5: Yep.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Look, all eyes are on Iran. I think everybody wants
- 33:10Speaker 1: this war to end. everywhere, and we just hope that
- 33:14Speaker 1: whatever the deal is at the end, everybody's interests in
- 33:17Speaker 1: the United States at least are represented so we can
- 33:19Speaker 1: stop going to keep this war going because we don't
- 33:21Speaker 1: want to go back. We don't want to keep going
- 33:23Speaker 1: back and forth. Let's just end this thing. I think
- 33:25Speaker 1: that's what everyone wants. Samar Khan, thank you so much
- 33:27Speaker 1: for being here. Great takes, and I look forward to
- 33:29Speaker 1: having you back real soon.
- 33:30Speaker 7: Thanks so much.
- 33:32Speaker 1: When we come back, the company that proved man can
- 33:35Speaker 1: make it rain returns, and its founder is coming out
- 33:39Speaker 1: with a new white paper showing that seeding causes holes
- 33:43Speaker 1: in the clouds. I ask him all the questions about
- 33:46Speaker 1: it and what impacts it has on the environment. You're
- 33:48Speaker 1: not going to want to miss it. And later, Weaponization Wednesday,
- 33:51Speaker 1: the story of a decorated police officer the Obama Justice
- 33:55Speaker 1: Department sent to prison for arresting illegal immigrants. You're not
- 33:59Speaker 1: going to believe it. He's here with his story. All
- 34:02Speaker 1: that's still to come.
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- 34:48Speaker 1: Monday night on this program, we took you inside a
- 34:50Speaker 1: company most Americans have never heard of, Rainmaker. The company
- 34:54Speaker 1: that did something people spent 80 years insisting was impossible.
- 34:59Speaker 1: It proved on radar that, man, well, they can control
- 35:04Speaker 1: the weather. Now, if you missed that special, go and
- 35:07Speaker 1: find it. You can watch it on OAN Live On Demand.
- 35:11Speaker 1: Because tonight, founder of that company, he's back, and the
- 35:15Speaker 1: story is getting just even more interesting. In just the
- 35:18Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, Rainmaker's team went up to Alaska,
- 35:22Speaker 1: to the Kenai Peninsula, and in about three hours of
- 35:26Speaker 1: drone operations, they say they've pulled roughly 19 drones. million
- 35:30Speaker 1: gallons of fresh water out of the sky, the first
- 35:33Speaker 1: time anyone has ever provably produced precipitation that far north.
- 35:37Speaker 1: And now there's new evidence that shows that when the
- 35:40Speaker 1: seeded and the snow falls out of it, it leaves
- 35:44Speaker 1: behind a hole, a clean, often perfectly circular hole punched
- 35:50Speaker 1: right through the cloud layer. Scientists, well, they call it
- 35:54Speaker 1: a fall streak hole, and it's the visible fingerprint, the
- 35:58Speaker 1: proof written across the sky that the snow came from seeding.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Rainmaker just published a white paper documenting all of it,
- 36:06Speaker 1: and it gets bigger. You just heard about the fear
- 36:09Speaker 1: of artificial intelligence and the enormous data centers powering it, right?
- 36:14Speaker 1: A lot of people talking about that. We've talked about
- 36:17Speaker 1: how much electricity they burn and how much water they
- 36:20Speaker 1: consume from local communities. Well, Rainmaker's newest move, announced just
- 36:25Speaker 1: this week, is to point this technology directly at that problem,
- 36:29Speaker 1: cutting deals with big tech to seed the clouds and
- 36:32Speaker 1: put water back into the ground near those data centers
- 36:35Speaker 1: so the local community comes out ahead instead of drain dry.
- 36:39Speaker 1: From ending drought in the West to refilling the Great
- 36:42Speaker 1: Salt Lake, to watering the age of AI. The man
- 36:45Speaker 1: building all of this is back here. Joining me now,
- 36:48Speaker 1: the CEO of Rainmaker, Augustus DeRico. Man, what an interesting special.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here on Monday.
- 36:57Speaker 3: And.
- 36:59Speaker 1: I've gotten so much feedback, so much responses, a lot positive.
- 37:02Speaker 1: A lot of people still have questions. But then I
- 37:04Speaker 1: see this new white paper. And of course, since we've
- 37:06Speaker 1: recorded that, that sit down on Monday, you produce results
- 37:09Speaker 1: of millions of gallons pulled out of the sky. Now,
- 37:11Speaker 1: white paper showing where the snow is falling. Talk about
- 37:14Speaker 1: an update where we were from the last time we
- 37:16Speaker 1: sat down to where we are now. What big developments
- 37:18Speaker 1: have come out of Rainmaker?
- 37:20Speaker 10: Yeah, well, firstly, David, thank you so much for having
- 37:22Speaker 10: me back. And the reception or the feedback that we
- 37:25Speaker 10: got from the special on Monday was spectacular. We had
- 37:27Speaker 10: people from California and Texas and Nevada reaching out to
- 37:31Speaker 10: us asking, hey, my farm, my community doesn't have enough water.
- 37:34Speaker 10: Can you come here and help make more rain, make
- 37:37Speaker 10: more snow to alleviate the drought? So I totally encourage
- 37:41Speaker 10: anybody to go back and watch that. Since we had
- 37:45Speaker 10: that in-person sit down, Rainmaker's done a handful of really
- 37:48Speaker 10: cool things. First of all, we talked about how in
- 37:52Speaker 10: the special, Rainmaker became the first and only company in
- 37:54Speaker 10: history to provably produce man-made precipitation to measure our effect
- 37:59Speaker 10: on radar. And between January and April, we made 143
- 38:03Speaker 10: million gallons of man-made precipitation across those four months across
- 38:07Speaker 10: many states. But in Alaska, we went and in just
- 38:10Speaker 10: three hours with only two drones, we produced 19 million
- 38:14Speaker 10: gallons of precipitation. So we're getting way better at producing
- 38:18Speaker 10: water with this technology. And then also, we released that
- 38:21Speaker 10: white paper, that second one you mentioned, on fall streak generation.
- 38:25Speaker 10: So not in every cloud seeding opportunity can you clear
- 38:29Speaker 10: out part of an overcast sky. But if there's a
- 38:31Speaker 10: really thin overcast cloud deck, then sometimes we can open
- 38:36Speaker 10: up a hole either to increase aviation safety so that
- 38:40Speaker 10: pilots know where to land safely or to increase solar
- 38:43Speaker 10: power generation. These are just some of the capabilities that
- 38:46Speaker 10: we've developed over the course of the last couple of weeks.
- 38:49Speaker 10: And I think that in this upcoming decade, we're going
- 38:52Speaker 10: to see technological miracles beyond our wildest imagination made here
- 38:56Speaker 10: in the United States of America.
- 38:58Speaker 1: Now, of course, when I sat down with you, my
- 39:00Speaker 1: big question still remains. OK, that sounds cool. Like, yeah,
- 39:04Speaker 1: we can clear the clouds over my solar panels. We
- 39:07Speaker 1: can clear the clouds for pilots to fly through. All
- 39:09Speaker 1: that sounds awesome. But what about the side effects? If
- 39:14Speaker 1: there's a hole in the sky that wasn't supposed to
- 39:16Speaker 1: be there, does it create more heat on the ground
- 39:19Speaker 1: that maybe should have been shielded? I mean, again, I
- 39:22Speaker 1: asked you about this when we sat down. You had
- 39:23Speaker 1: a great answer about the water. Like it's basically just
- 39:25Speaker 1: falling all over the ocean. And when you reroute rivers
- 39:28Speaker 1: or you dam up rivers, you're doing the same thing.
- 39:31Speaker 1: But with these holes in the sky, is it the
- 39:33Speaker 1: same argument that there's no impact of having like giant
- 39:37Speaker 1: holes punched into the sky?
- 39:40Speaker 10: Well, it's not that there's no impact, right? And it's
- 39:43Speaker 10: not even necessarily that we should deploy this product and
- 39:47Speaker 10: technology however we want. I think that these capabilities to
- 39:51Speaker 10: modify the weather, to interact differently with creation than we
- 39:55Speaker 10: have in the past, they need to be talked about.
- 39:58Speaker 10: They need to be studied and researched, not just by Rainmaker,
- 40:01Speaker 10: but by other labs. I think that states and the
- 40:03Speaker 10: federal government need to regulate them so that the American
- 40:07Speaker 10: people transparently know exactly what's going on. I think that
- 40:11Speaker 10: it's more important that the United States has a clear
- 40:14Speaker 10: regulatory framework and can choose how they want to use
- 40:19Speaker 10: this capability than it is to say wholesale ban stuff
- 40:23Speaker 10: until we can study it enough. In the United States,
- 40:25Speaker 10: we already have a terrible time trying to build anything,
- 40:28Speaker 10: trying to develop new technology. That's why places like China
- 40:31Speaker 10: are racing ahead of us in so many different fields.
- 40:34Speaker 10: I want this to be governed by an American company.
- 40:36Speaker 10: I want it to be governed by the American people
- 40:39Speaker 10: and our regulatory departments. We need to study it more.
- 40:43Speaker 10: If we don't have the option to use it than
- 40:45Speaker 10: other people will in the future. And so we have
- 40:48Speaker 10: to be the responsible stewards of the tech.
- 40:50Speaker 1: So look, you're the contractor. You're the one who puts
- 40:53Speaker 1: the technology up in the clouds that allows it to
- 40:56Speaker 1: extract the water to fall wherever private land or public
- 41:00Speaker 1: land you're contracted to have that precipitation fall. And you
- 41:03Speaker 1: have a way to measure that you're actually doing your job.
- 41:05Speaker 1: I mean, that's the big story. The big story is
- 41:07Speaker 1: weather modification is real. We can actually pull precipitation out
- 41:11Speaker 1: of the sky. In your case, it's mostly snow, more
- 41:12Speaker 1: so than rain. But you can pull it out of
- 41:14Speaker 1: the sky. And then you can prove that you're doing
- 41:17Speaker 1: that because you have the radar proof that, hey, you
- 41:20Speaker 1: see these holes in the sky? That's where we seed it.
- 41:22Speaker 1: You see the snow falling on radar? That's where we
- 41:24Speaker 1: seed it. So that's the concept, the big picture we
- 41:26Speaker 1: can take away. Now, we've addressed the long-term impacts of it.
- 41:30Speaker 1: You're developing new technologies. seeding formulas that would be left
- 41:34Speaker 1: less impact on the environment, more natural occurring things. But
- 41:38Speaker 1: do you as a company, or is this where the
- 41:40Speaker 1: regulations comes in, do you as a company look downriver,
- 41:43Speaker 1: so to speak? Like this year they keep talking about
- 41:46Speaker 1: this super strong El Nino, and it's supposed to bring
- 41:48Speaker 1: extra rain and extra moisture across certain parts of the country.
- 41:52Speaker 1: But let's assume that all winter you have these contracts
- 41:54Speaker 1: for these snowpacks. These snowpacks are broadening on top of
- 41:57Speaker 1: these mountains to create, because as you explained it to me,
- 42:00Speaker 1: as the snow melts, it creates a controlled temperature. THAT'S
- 42:03Speaker 1: A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I
- 42:05Speaker 1: THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
- 42:07Speaker 1: I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S A
- 42:08Speaker 1: GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK
- 42:10Speaker 1: IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
- 42:30Speaker 1: of drawing precipitation out of the sky where you draw it?
- 42:35Speaker 10: Lots of thought and scientific research goes into not just
- 42:38Speaker 10: the immediate impact, but the subsequent downstream impacts. It's not
- 42:43Speaker 10: just Rainmaker that's thinking about researching this. It's also our
- 42:47Speaker 10: state and regulatory partners. Something very important to keep apprised
- 42:51Speaker 10: of that most people don't know about is in Utah, Colorado, Idaho,
- 42:56Speaker 10: most states in the American West, you have cloud seeding
- 42:59Speaker 10: and weather modification regulations, permits and licensing structures. And one
- 43:03Speaker 10: criteria that they all share is suspension criteria, meaning under
- 43:08Speaker 10: what conditions do you suspend operations? Are you required to
- 43:13Speaker 10: suspend operations even if the customer wants more snow? And
- 43:16Speaker 10: so in all of our operations case, if there is
- 43:18Speaker 10: risk of avalanche, if there is risk that the snow
- 43:21Speaker 10: melt overfill and spill over reservoirs in the spring, If
- 43:24Speaker 10: there's risk that the soil is already too moist and
- 43:27Speaker 10: it can't retain any more water, no matter whether our
- 43:30Speaker 10: customers want more, we're obligated to suspend operations. And not
- 43:34Speaker 10: only do we suspend operations because we have this regulatory obligation,
- 43:39Speaker 10: the PR around this tech is obviously already really zany.
- 43:42Speaker 10: People have a lot of concerns, understandably, but we have
- 43:46Speaker 10: to do no harm and will do no harm because
- 43:49Speaker 10: we don't want to take any risk to people's well-being
- 43:53Speaker 10: or the future of this tech.
- 43:54Speaker 1: I have so many more follow-up questions for you. Even
- 43:57Speaker 1: after sitting down with you for an hour and walking
- 44:00Speaker 1: around your facility for an hour, we're going to have
- 44:02Speaker 1: to save that for another segment. I hope you come
- 44:04Speaker 1: back because I'm very curious about this. I know our
- 44:07Speaker 1: viewers are very curious about this. And I look forward
- 44:09Speaker 1: to having you back again and we can keep breaking
- 44:11Speaker 1: this down because the technology is fascinating. You made me
- 44:15Speaker 1: a believer in the utility of it. And the way
- 44:17Speaker 1: you explained it as just being a technologically different way
- 44:20Speaker 1: of getting water to places other than rerouting it on
- 44:23Speaker 1: the ground. I understand all of it, but man, I
- 44:25Speaker 1: still have so many questions and I know our audience
- 44:27Speaker 1: does too. So I look forward to having you back
- 44:29Speaker 1: again and congrats on the success of being able to
- 44:31Speaker 1: prove the model. I know you're doing some groundbreaking technology
- 44:34Speaker 1: in that respect. And so good on you, man. And look,
- 44:37Speaker 1: we'll keep making it rain and snow. And I look
- 44:39Speaker 1: forward to a good ski season.
- 44:43Speaker 10: David, it was a pleasure. Thanks so much, man.
- 44:45Speaker 11: Thanks, guys.
- 44:46Speaker 1: Still ahead, it's Weaponization Wednesday. A cop who cracked a
- 44:50Speaker 1: massive fraud ring got prosecuted for it because the criminals
- 44:54Speaker 1: turned out to be illegal aliens. You're not going to
- 44:57Speaker 1: believe this story. It's up next.
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- 46:42Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, which means it's time for the second weaponization
- 46:46Speaker 1: watch that we're doing on this show. Again, this is
- 46:48Speaker 1: a segment we're going to do every week where we
- 46:50Speaker 1: bring you the story of an American crushed by the
- 46:53Speaker 1: very government that's supposed to serve them. Tonight's case, the
- 46:57Speaker 1: Obama DOJ targets law enforcement in 2013. A federal jury
- 47:02Speaker 1: convicted a Connecticut police officer named Dennis Spalding of violating
- 47:07Speaker 1: the civil rights of Latino residents in his own town.
- 47:12Speaker 1: Six counts, five years in federal prison, and he served them.
- 47:15Speaker 1: But the verdict leaves out almost everything that actually matters
- 47:19Speaker 1: in this story. Dennis Spalding was a decorated police officer
- 47:24Speaker 1: in East Haven, Connecticut, a small town with a very
- 47:27Speaker 1: real problem, a sprawling fraud ring. People buying fake license plates,
- 47:32Speaker 1: phony vehicle registrations, counterfeit insurance cards. paying as much as $ 1, 500
- 47:38Speaker 1: a pop. And Officer Spalding did his job. He enforced
- 47:42Speaker 1: the law. The trouble was, the people running that particular racket, well, surprise, surprise,
- 47:49Speaker 1: they happen to be in this country illegally. That's right,
- 47:53Speaker 1: illegal aliens getting fake documents to drive cars. So when
- 47:56Speaker 1: they crash into you or drive drunk, well, there's no
- 47:59Speaker 1: consequences for them. So in 2009, Eric Holder's Justice Department
- 48:05Speaker 1: came to East Haven, and when East Haven refused to
- 48:08Speaker 1: sign a consent decree handing control of its own police
- 48:12Speaker 1: force over to the federal government, the DOJ, well, they
- 48:16Speaker 1: made a different choice. They moved to put the town's
- 48:18Speaker 1: police in prison. And in the words of the group
- 48:22Speaker 1: that defense officers like him, to send a message to
- 48:25Speaker 1: every other police department in America, fall in line or
- 48:28Speaker 1: you're next. A jury convicted Spalding, but a conviction? Well,
- 48:33Speaker 1: it's not always the end of the story. Sometimes It's
- 48:35Speaker 1: only the beginning. Officer Spalding says he was a cop
- 48:38Speaker 1: who arrested criminals and got prosecuted for it in his
- 48:41Speaker 1: own words. Take a look.
- 48:43Speaker 12: Two of our officers were arrested at the police department
- 48:46Speaker 12: in uniform with their guns, and one of them was
- 48:49Speaker 12: a canine officer. That, to me, as a law enforcement officer,
- 48:54Speaker 12: is the most ridiculous, dangerous thing that they could do.
- 48:58Speaker 1: Joining me now is the man at the center of
- 49:00Speaker 1: this controversy, former East Haven police officer Dennis Spaulding, and
- 49:04Speaker 1: he's joined with Jason Johnson, president of the Law Enforcement
- 49:08Speaker 1: Legal Defense Fund, the organization fighting for officers across this
- 49:11Speaker 1: country who say they were prosecuted for just doing their jobs. Gentlemen,
- 49:15Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Dennis, I'm going to go first
- 49:17Speaker 1: to you. TELL ME ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THIS CASE BECAUSE, YES,
- 49:22Speaker 1: YOU WERE CONVICTED BY A JURY SO PEOPLE ARE GOING
- 49:24Speaker 1: TO SAY CLOSED DOOR, CASE SHUT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
- 49:27Speaker 1: BUT THERE'S NUANCE TO THIS CASE AND THERE ARE SOME
- 49:29Speaker 1: FACTS THAT AREN'T READILY KNOWN BY THE PUBLIC. CAN YOU
- 49:31Speaker 1: TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR PARTICULAR CASE? CORRECT.
- 49:34Speaker 7: SO THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON YOUR SHOW. BASICALLY, THANK YOU.
- 49:37Speaker 7: This started around 2008.
- 49:38Speaker 13: I had discovered a major fraud occurring with the state
- 49:43Speaker 13: of Pennsylvania registration plates. Illegal immigrants were paying up to $ 1, 500
- 49:46Speaker 13: for these license plates. They were having fake insurance cards,
- 49:53Speaker 13: fake driver's licenses. They were involved in a huge amount
- 49:57Speaker 13: of hit and run accidents. One report said that 23%
- 50:01Speaker 13: of all hit and run accidents occurred in that time period.
- 50:05Speaker 13: where the drivers would flee. When we would track down
- 50:07Speaker 13: these drivers, a lot of them didn't have any documentation
- 50:12Speaker 13: from the United States. They had fake insurance cards, no
- 50:15Speaker 13: driver's license, no insurance. One particular case, we had a
- 50:19Speaker 13: 14-year-old boy hit by an illegal immigrant, went through the
- 50:22Speaker 13: windshield of his car. The illegal immigrant fled the scene.
- 50:27Speaker 13: We ended up arresting him, put him in jail. set
- 50:31Speaker 13: a high bond. The next day, the judge released him
- 50:33Speaker 13: with a lower bond and the illegal immigrant fled to Ecuador.
- 50:38Speaker 13: So that was just one of my investigations. I had
- 50:41Speaker 13: opened up investigations into about three other states, three or
- 50:45Speaker 13: four other states that the same fraud was occurring. They
- 50:48Speaker 13: were forging documents and paying a middle person at DMV
- 50:52Speaker 13: to provide them with documentation that they were not allowed to.
- 50:55Speaker 7: Have because they were illegally in the United States.
- 50:59Speaker 13: We arrested close to over a thousand illegal immigrants in
- 51:03Speaker 13: the small town of East Haven, Connecticut. We're only about 30,000
- 51:06Speaker 13: residents and about 50 police officers. So as you can imagine,
- 51:10Speaker 13: us making a thousand arrests of illegal immigrants is going
- 51:14Speaker 13: to anger activists. It's going to anger some Democrats that
- 51:20Speaker 13: didn't believe what we were doing was correct. They had
- 51:24Speaker 13: betrayed us in the media as racist. They had protested us.
- 51:29Speaker 13: They had followed us around in traffic stops. They had
- 51:32Speaker 13: wrote complaints. They had filed civil rights violation investigations. And
- 51:38Speaker 13: during that time period, when we were making these high
- 51:41Speaker 13: number of arrests of illegal immigrants, many investigations took place.
- 51:47Speaker 13: The state of Connecticut investigated our police department. The police
- 51:51Speaker 13: department did an internal investigation into these allegations of civil
- 51:54Speaker 13: rights violations. The local FBI office had investigators for over
- 51:59Speaker 13: a year with no findings of criminal wrongdoing on anything.
- 52:04Speaker 13: I was a nine-year.
- 52:05Speaker 7: Decorated police officer.
- 52:06Speaker 13: In that time, I had never been disciplined for a
- 52:11Speaker 13: single reason. And the only lawsuit I ever had in
- 52:13Speaker 13: that nine years was the one filed by Yale Law
- 52:16Speaker 13: Clinic that represented the illegal immigrants in this case.
- 52:20Speaker 4: Wow.
- 52:21Speaker 1: Now, let me go to you, Jason. Where are we
- 52:25Speaker 1: at right now in the, because look, time is served
- 52:29Speaker 1: in this particular case, but you're looking for some sort
- 52:32Speaker 1: of post-conviction resolution for this officer, correct?
- 52:37Speaker 14: Yeah, so in addition to Dennis, there are three other
- 52:39Speaker 14: East Haven police officers who were essentially co-defendants of his.
- 52:44Speaker 14: They were all charged by the Department of Justice under
- 52:46Speaker 14: Tom Perez, who was the head of civil rights, later
- 52:49Speaker 14: became the head of the DNC. He led this investigation
- 52:54Speaker 14: and this prosecution and persecution of these four officers. What
- 52:58Speaker 14: we're seeking now is a full presidential pardon. So we're
- 53:03Speaker 14: trying to tell their story the best we can, as
- 53:07Speaker 14: broadly as we can, and hope to inspire President Trump
- 53:11Speaker 14: to issue a pardon for these four brave and decorated
- 53:14Speaker 14: former East Haven law enforcement officers that, although they They
- 53:18Speaker 14: did serve time in federal prison, unfortunately. They were away
- 53:23Speaker 14: from their families for up to five years. Their careers
- 53:26Speaker 14: were ended. Some of them have had difficulty reestablishing new careers.
- 53:31Speaker 14: But these are brave men and women of law enforcement.
- 53:33Speaker 14: They were persecuted by an administration that was on a
- 53:37Speaker 14: warpath against the men and women of law enforcement, who
- 53:39Speaker 14: in this case were just simply doing their job. It's
- 53:41Speaker 14: time to make it right. It's time to have a
- 53:44Speaker 14: full presidential pardon to formally clear their names.
- 53:47Speaker 5: Wow.
- 53:47Speaker 1: Look, and this is why we bring these stories every
- 53:50Speaker 1: single week, because, you know, there's a lot of prosecutions
- 53:55Speaker 1: that happen under Biden, under Obama, and the president simply
- 53:58Speaker 1: doesn't have enough time to go through every single one
- 54:01Speaker 1: of those. And so I'm doing my best to at
- 54:03Speaker 1: least bring awareness to these cases. Dennis, I appreciate your
- 54:07Speaker 1: service to your community. I'm sorry for what's happened to you.
- 54:11Speaker 1: Hopefully— Jason, you can fight for Dennis and we'll see
- 54:14Speaker 1: if this can get to President Trump's desk for a pardon.
- 54:18Speaker 1: Thank you both for being here tonight and bringing us
- 54:21Speaker 1: this important information. That's our show for tonight. I want
- 54:24Speaker 1: you to join us tomorrow for a program unlike anything
- 54:28Speaker 1: we do all year because tomorrow marks one year to
- 54:32Speaker 1: the day. since Charlie Kirk was assassinated on a college
- 54:35Speaker 1: campus in Utah. We're going to honor him, we're going
- 54:38Speaker 1: to remember him, and we're going to show you the movement,
- 54:42Speaker 1: the incredible movement that he left behind. As always, stay
- 54:45Speaker 1: in touch with us on social media, David Pollak USA,
- 54:48Speaker 1: or send us an email, davidpollakprimetime at oadoublen.com. We'll see
- 54:51Speaker 1: you tomorrow, same time, same place. And until then, stay classy, America.
- 54:55Speaker 1: Good night.
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