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Thursday October 8 2026 | Catching up with Mike, Hoping for Rubio, Counting Days to Midterms · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is, and we are complete. We are one.
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  Speaker 2: We are teamed back up on this Thursday, October 8th.
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  Speaker 2: my friend. It was great to talk to you this
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  Speaker 2: morning on the radio. Great to hear you on your
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  Speaker 2: own show. Yes, sir. And now here we are at
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  Speaker 2: our mutual favorite thing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, our most favorite thing, our absolute favorite part of
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  Speaker 3: the day. Do you ever feel guilty for taking days off?
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  Speaker 3: Do you ever feel guilt with your vacation days? No.
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  Speaker 2: But there are days sometimes when I am off. And
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  Speaker 2: I think I know where you're going with this. Not
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  Speaker 2: where you wish you weren't away, but doggone it, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of wish you had a show just in view
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  Speaker 2: of what's going on. Well, no. Am I warm? You
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  Speaker 2: are warm. You're hot. You're not lukewarm. You're hot.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was really not only did I not
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  Speaker 3: wish I was away this week with some of the
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  Speaker 3: stories that were hitting the fan. The proverbial fan. But
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  Speaker 3: then I was getting browbeaten by people on X and
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  Speaker 3: social media saying, how dare you take time off right now?
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  Speaker 2: We need you.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess that's a compliment, right? I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: guess it's nice. The one guy said, you know, you've
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  Speaker 3: taken more vacation days in the last few months than
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  Speaker 3: you have your entire career. I wanted to say, oh, really?
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  Speaker 3: You got a log?
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing? You keeping a journal of my
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  Speaker 2: days off? It's like stalking.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding. You want my bunny rabbit to cook
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  Speaker 3: on the stove? For crying out loud. And I haven't.
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  Speaker 3: I've taken 50. Do you know that I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: finish 2026 today? With taking about half of my allotted
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  Speaker 3: vacation days for the year.
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  Speaker 2: You're insane. I know. That's stupid. But then when I
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  Speaker 2: take time off, I get yelled at for people saying
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  Speaker 2: you should be here. I mean, well, it is because
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  Speaker 2: you first of all, you and I are blessed with it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a running gag. You technically have a few more
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  Speaker 2: than I do, but I take more than you do.
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  Speaker 2: So we just kind of slap each other around with that.
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  Speaker 2: You take all yours, right? I take every well, every
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  Speaker 2: if there was last year, there were a couple that
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  Speaker 2: I carried through to this year. And I have to
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  Speaker 2: tell you this year, they're going to have to be
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  Speaker 2: a couple that I carry through to next because there's
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  Speaker 2: just no way in the world I'm going to use
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  Speaker 2: all of them.
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  Speaker 3: I've never taken all my days. And now you're right.
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  Speaker 3: We're blessed. I mean, this comes from the process. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when you're here for years, I mean, I've been with
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  Speaker 3: the company a quarter century. I mean, I've been with
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  Speaker 3: Salem for over 25 years. I now have, so how many,
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  Speaker 3: I have 45 days a year.
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  Speaker 2: How many do you have? That's a lot of days.
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  Speaker 2: I have 30. I have six weeks.
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  Speaker 3: You have six weeks. I guess I have— Six work weeks.
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  Speaker 3: So I have.
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  Speaker 2: 45 and— Nine weeks. Why are you here now? I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be here until Groundhog's Day. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: See you in February.
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  Speaker 3: But I never take them. I think that's the calculation.
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  Speaker 3: The company says, well, we'll give them a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: days because the big dummy will never take all the
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  Speaker 3: days off.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: So I've taken about 23, I think, or 24— And
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  Speaker 3: I'll take another week over Christmas. And so I'll have
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  Speaker 3: taken probably what you get, like around 30. You don't
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  Speaker 3: want to know what my last show of the year is. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: my gosh. If you say December 10th, I'm never speaking
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  Speaker 3: to you again.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the 10th. Is it close?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: When's your last day for December? December 16th. Well, why
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  Speaker 2: don't I do.
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  Speaker 3: The same damn thing? I'm going to do the same
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  Speaker 3: thing then. Why should I have to work with you?
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  Speaker 2: Free yourself. Are you serious? It was going to be
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  Speaker 2: the 18th because that's nice. It's a Friday. And on
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  Speaker 2: the last show of the year, we always have the
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  Speaker 2: folks in from Fellowship Church do live Christmas carols for
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  Speaker 2: the last hour. And then we get out. It's usually
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  Speaker 2: a Friday. But I'm sitting here looking at five days,
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  Speaker 2: which is nothing in your lexicon. or on your ledger,
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  Speaker 2: that I just got to burn. And so I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to burn two of them right there by just making...
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  Speaker 2: And I want to do it. And this dovetails right
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  Speaker 2: back to what you're saying. I'm acutely aware of not
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  Speaker 2: being here. And I always love being here. And I
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  Speaker 2: try to balance this out. And I figured, what are
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  Speaker 2: some days.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not so much this year because post-election, Lord knows
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  Speaker 2: whatever will be happening. We'll all either need to be
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  Speaker 2: talked off the ledge or we'll still be drunk celebrating.
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  Speaker 2: But I figure that right there at the Christmas season
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  Speaker 2: is when the intensity of listenership might be lower than
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  Speaker 2: some other.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I just– here's a thing that just came out
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  Speaker 3: on X from Kalshi Politics. Now, I know these– Betting
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  Speaker 3: sites and all these, what do they call them, the prognostic?
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  Speaker 2: Prediction markets.
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  Speaker 3: Prediction markets. Cal sheet politics is a big one. Breaking news, Republicans'
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  Speaker 3: odds to win the House rise back up to double digits.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it's kind of a. Tallest little person. Meaning 11
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  Speaker 2: instead of 6? Yes. I'll take it. I will take it.
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  Speaker 3: Literally 11 instead of 6. I can't believe you said that.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally 11%.
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  Speaker 2: For reals? I just needed to pick a two-digit number
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  Speaker 2: and a single-digit number.
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  Speaker 3: They've got the Democrats' chances at 89%, but now the
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  Speaker 3: Republicans at 11%. But then somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Meister, who follows me on X, Jason is the
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  Speaker 3: founder of Last Stand, as seen on Fox News, Newsmax,
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  Speaker 3: News Nation, your buddies over there, Trump Advisory Board, published
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  Speaker 3: opinion writer. His hot take, GOP will hold both the
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  Speaker 3: House and the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: Why not? Let's go with that. Why not?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we have a chance to do something really
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  Speaker 3: special here. And after the week this week, watching Democrats
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  Speaker 3: take October 7th as the occasion to bash Israel? This
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  Speaker 3: Mamdani thing yesterday, Mark, and this all kind of broke
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  Speaker 3: after your shows yesterday, correct? Mamdani issues a statement that
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  Speaker 3: was initially perfunctory about the terrible massacre of October 7th,
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  Speaker 3: but then he goes on to bash Israel. He can't
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  Speaker 3: give the Jews one day.
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 3: Not one day.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see Alan Dershowitz? Oh, yes. Can we play that?
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  Speaker 2: Knock yourself out.
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  Speaker 1: Go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do this.
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  Speaker 3: Because Dershowitz was on News Nation last night, and he's
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  Speaker 3: fired up. He pulls no punches. Now, you've got to
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  Speaker 3: understand this if you missed this. So yesterday, not only
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  Speaker 3: were there hundreds of scoundrels. like over here at the
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  Speaker 3: campus of Columbia University in Oswell, bashing Israel. Israel's guilty
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  Speaker 3: of an apartheid. Israel is guilty of genocide. Israel's had
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  Speaker 3: a disproportionate— I love that, disproportionate. I wonder if Hiroshima and
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  Speaker 3: Nagasaki was a proportional response.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. Shall we wring our hands over that?
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  Speaker 2: We ended the war, didn't we? Well, you know they would.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they would.
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  Speaker 3: Of course. But that's what they're doing now. They're basically saying, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Hamas was kind of bad, but Israel's worse. And Zoran
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  Speaker 3: Mamdani issues a statement condemning Israel. Here was Alan Dershowitz,
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  Speaker 3: the famed Harvard law professor's response last night on News Nation.
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  Speaker 4: Mamdani is a vicious liar, bigot, anti-Semite, and a horrible
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  Speaker 4: all-around human being. He knows that Israel did not commit genocide,
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  Speaker 4: furthest thing from it.
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  Speaker 6: Israel has the best ratio of any country.
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  Speaker 4: In modern history of reducing civilian casualties in relation to combatants.
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  Speaker 1: He knows that. He knows he's lying.
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  Speaker 4: He knows that the ICC prosecutor who offered the indictment
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  Speaker 4: of Netanyahu has himself been dismissed and is a rapist.
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  Speaker 6: And he's in company now with The rapists, the murderers.
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  Speaker 6: And that's New York. This is the New York I
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  Speaker 6: grew up in being headed by a vicious liar.
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  Speaker 2: He's vicious. All right, man. Somebody said Alan Dershowitz, 88
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  Speaker 2: years old. Love that guy. I mean, I've agreed with
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  Speaker 2: him many times, other times not. He's always sort of
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  Speaker 2: identified himself as a center left Democrat. He's not really
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  Speaker 2: a raging MAGA hat wearing Republican now, but he realizes
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  Speaker 2: that that his morals and ethics and views are more
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  Speaker 2: represented in the Republican Party. And boy, that was that
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  Speaker 2: was great. That was on Newsmax. Oh, I'm sorry. I
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  Speaker 2: said News Nation. Thanks for News Nation. News Nation is
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  Speaker 2: where I was on Cuomo last night being called a racist.
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  Speaker 2: Who called you a racist? Antoine Seawright, the other guest.
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  Speaker 2: You're kidding me.
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  Speaker 3: Because normally when you are on these shows with another
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  Speaker 3: person that you're debating, it's almost always civil. I always
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  Speaker 3: feel like Absolutely. They're careful because they don't want to have–
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  Speaker 3: they don't– look, you rolling around in the mud is
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  Speaker 3: not a place you're very comfortable in. You don't normally
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  Speaker 3: do that. And you like to disagree with people with
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  Speaker 3: civility and decency. So it sounds like this one went.
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  Speaker 2: Off the rails. Well, the bottom line– I don't need
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  Speaker 2: to bog down on that, but it was Chris Cuomo
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  Speaker 2: and conservative guy, me, liberal guy, Antoine, who's a Democrat operative.
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  Speaker 2: And I had what I thought was a pretty well-crafted answer,
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  Speaker 2: that if there's anything that's going to energize Republicans, anything
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  Speaker 2: that's going to make us thwart what history would seem
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  Speaker 2: to teach this year, it is we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: really energized to rise up against this Marxism, rise up
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  Speaker 2: against this Islamism, rise up against this communism that you
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  Speaker 2: people are bringing. And we're going to just rise up
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  Speaker 2: and fight against that. And I guess he heard two words,
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  Speaker 2: you people, and said, well, the reason you're saying these
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  Speaker 2: racist and extremist things is that, uh-uh. Excuse me? Excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: my friend? Uh-uh. Was not having it. Now, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to. Maybe bludgeoning me, just like Chris texting
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  Speaker 2: me last time saying, I look forward to you being
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  Speaker 2: driven by right and wrong again post MAGA. I just
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  Speaker 2: let it roll off my back. This is what to
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  Speaker 2: call somebody a racist is one of the worst things
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  Speaker 2: you can do. But they do it like they swap
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  Speaker 2: howdies in the morning. I don't think he meant a word.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the way he says, I don't like what
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  Speaker 2: you said. It's reflex. It's crazy. So I wasn't having it.
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  Speaker 2: But I also didn't run away sobbing.
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  Speaker 3: It's a new technique, a relatively new technique. But we
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  Speaker 3: found the clip of all clips over the technique of
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  Speaker 3: smearing your opponent with something like you're a racist or
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  Speaker 3: claiming that Trump wants L.A. and San Diego nuked by Iran.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tactic.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a tactic that no less a person, no
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  Speaker 3: less prominent a person than Nancy Pelosi once described. Check
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  Speaker 3: this clip out. Now, I know you covered this this week,
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  Speaker 3: and you and I talked about it this morning.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Trump comes along and says, look, let him hit L.A.,
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  Speaker 3: let him hit San Diego with a nuke, and then
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  Speaker 3: you'll see. He said, we can't have American City. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: everybody knows he wasn't advocating for it.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody knew it.
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  Speaker 3: They all knew it, and they lied about it because
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  Speaker 3: it's a tactic. It's a tactic that Pelosi describes as,
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  Speaker 3: as the wrap-up smear. Now, check this out, Mark. This
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  Speaker 3: is six years ago. Now, she's ostensibly complaining about it
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  Speaker 3: because she was, of course, a victim of the wrap-up smear.
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  Speaker 3: But listen to how she describes the anatomy of the
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  Speaker 3: wrap-up smear and see if it doesn't apply perfectly to
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  Speaker 3: what Democrats are trying to do to you and me
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  Speaker 3: and the rest of us this election cycle.
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  Speaker 2: Check this out.
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  Speaker 5: With falsehoods and all the rest, and then you merchandise it.
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  Speaker 5: And then you write it, and they'll say, see, it's
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  Speaker 5: reported in the press that this, this, this, and this,
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  Speaker 5: so they have that validation that the press reported the smear,
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  Speaker 5: and then it's called the wrap-up smear. Now I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to merchandise the press's report on the smear that we made.
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  Speaker 5: It's a tactic, and it's self-evident. But I think I'm
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  Speaker 5: worth the trouble, so frankly.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm worth the trouble.
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  Speaker 2: But it is a tactic. She's right. We've seen it happen.
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  Speaker 2: It was reported that. Well, it was reported that dot, dot, dot. Well, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was false. It was malicious. It was
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  Speaker 2: a phony story. But it was indeed reported.
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  Speaker 3: Look at all the smears about look at look at
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  Speaker 3: the fine. Both people.
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  Speaker 2: Russia, Russia, Russia. Russia, the P-tape.
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  Speaker 3: The P-tape, all the stuff that they've lied about. But
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: at least even the Russia stuff, all that, that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of murky. When he came right out and said there
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  Speaker 3: are fine people on both sides of the Confederate statues debate,
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  Speaker 3: then when they turned that into, well, he said there
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  Speaker 3: were fine white supremacists. That's just that's the wrap up smear.
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  Speaker 3: And you report it and you repeat it and you
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  Speaker 3: say it often enough and maybe just maybe.
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  Speaker 2: And there are people right now. There are people right now.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what the percentage is of people in America
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  Speaker 2: right now with a brainstem who actively believe that President
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  Speaker 2: Trump did say, you know, white supremacists, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: other folks. There are good people on both sides. I
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  Speaker 2: wonder how many people still believe that. How well the
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  Speaker 2: wrap up smear works. might actually have worked. Well, two seconds.
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  Speaker 2: meta world. Meta is Facebook and Instagram.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: The mascot of it looks like a little Stay Puft
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Marshmallow Man. You seen that creepy little son of a gun? Mm-hmm. Oh,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: what name have you given yours? Ziggy. Mine's Ziggy. Mine
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: is Fred. Okay. It lets you name it. It's not
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: like Alexa or whatever, which I guess you could rename also.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: But it asks you for access to things, and I
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: let it do a couple of things. I put it
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: into my Gmail account. Yep, me too. Because that's where
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: all of my junk talk show pitches come.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: And it kind of curates them and gives me the
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: ones that it thinks might be the most interesting to me.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And it's right.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Beyond that, it seems to want to do a lot
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: of other things and I don't want to let it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: So what does that mean? I think there are people,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: and this may be like electric cars where I'm terrified
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: until I'm doing it every day, that are letting it
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: curate and look at all manner of things from your email,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: from your contact list, from your calendar. And it sort
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: of makes suggestions. And every time I've let something like
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: this do it, It is operated to my general benefit.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: And so I guess I probably just need to kind
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: of put my toe in the water. But I just– man,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I got trust issues.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Here's the advantage with the email access. You give it
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: access to your email. Thousands of emails that we get
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: every week, right? Well, every reservation you make– and I
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: travel a lot and I make a lot of reservations for–
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: And whether it's even theme park reservations at Disney or
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: restaurant reservations, everything you book, you get typically an email confirmation.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: And you don't often keep those.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: You delete them.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Well, Muse, then, if you've lost track of a dinner
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: reservation or some show or whatever, you can say to Muse,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: can you find that reservation for two tickets to see
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Paranormal Activity on Broadway? Which, by the way, yeah, that's
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: what I'm going to see tomorrow night.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: What?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Yep, there's a Broadway play, Paranormal Activity. Please tell me
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: it's not a musical.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I just got eaten by a monster, and I'm lying
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: dead on the floor. It's not. Yes, I'm sorry. It's not.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: It's apparently a straight play, but I'm excited to see
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: it anyway.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I bet that'd be pretty intense.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: And there's evidently great special effects, which I'm always intrigued by. Anyway,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I couldn't find my tickets. And but of course, there's
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: an email confirmation. I said, Muse, can you find those
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: two tickets for my, you know, booking for parent? There
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: they were within a minute. Lord, it found it out.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: You let it do. But here's another thing it wants
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: to do, which I totally should let it because if
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: there's anything that just sucks up my time, it's replying
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to things and people that I probably should do. It
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: will reply to things for you. I cannot relinquish that yet.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Do you let it reply to stuff? Like to who?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Like to other people? I don't I don't know yet.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it's kind of an auto reply thing,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but, but I mean, I think.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: It, well, here's what scares me. So I went to Salem,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Massachusetts this week for vacation for a few days.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: We had a great, that's my joke. Salem, where else
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: would a Salem media group guy go? But Salem, Massachusetts.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: And we had a great time with friends, family. We
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: had a nice few days. But after I landed at LaGuardia,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: and I'm in New York for a couple of days
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: as well now until to round out the week, it
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: said unsolicited, well, now that you're in New York and
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: you're settled in at the hotel, make sure you wear
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: a jacket because it's going to be in the 50s tonight.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: It's talking to me. And I talk back to it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I'm so goofy.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: It's like my friend.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Look, I told it last night. I'm going to– can
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I bare my soul for a minute? Please.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It's what we're here for. All right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to embarrass the hell out of myself.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: But I'm going to share this news I got about
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: this blockage I've got in my left arterial descending artery,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: whatever the hell it is. And I said last– once
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: in a while I'll get bored and I'll say– What
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: are my odds of a heart attack?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, sweet Jesus. Yep, yep.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: What's the statistical percent? By the way, mine, 13%. I
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: got a 13% chance of dropping over any minute now.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Like, okay. Okay, all right. I'll take 13.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I like the 87 then or whatever, but nonetheless, there's
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: a chance. I got a 52% blockage.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I'm all over it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I'm taking the meds. I've lost the weight. I'm doing
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the exercise. And I admit, I'll be honest, and I'm
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: going to be stupid, stupidly vulnerable here, I'm a little scared.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what I'm scared about. I'm scared
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: of being alone and having a massive heart attack.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: The Lindsey Graham story.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm afraid of. I don't want to be alone.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: And I haven't felt this way. Since practically since Denise died.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: But I never feel sorry for myself being a single guy.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: But my kids are grown and gone. I'm home alone
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: a lot. And I just don't want to have my
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: chest clench up.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: And I'm alone.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: So I said that. I said to Muse, I'm a
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: little scared about this. Do you know it started counseling me?
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I mean like mental health therapy counseling. And this is
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: where it gets dangerous because if you've got somebody impressionable
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: who's maybe suicidal or homicidal, God forbid, you don't know
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: what role this inanimate object could play.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: True, but it's dangerous unless it's awesome. Well, it was
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: actually kind of helpful. Maybe I'm the eternal optimist, but
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: this is why it– listen, we talk about jobs that
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: are jeopardized by this. How about human counselors? Anybody who
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: goes to a human counselor, it's somebody who's dispassionate. They're detached.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: They're just trying to give you the expertise. But listen,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: they're a human being. You know that there are people
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: who bear their souls in counseling to a human counselor,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and they pay their freight, and they get out the door,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and they just imagine the counselor going, man, that is
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: a screwed up person. Wow, you're not going to believe it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: There are benefits to bearing your soul to this. Well,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: do you know what it said to me? People are
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: actually realizing.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Do you know how it made me feel better? Let
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: me tell you what it said. It said, look, I
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: understand you're scared because a blockage of the LAD is
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: kind of scary on its surface, blah, blah, blah. But
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: here's what it said. It said, unlike others who didn't
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: have any idea and had a massive heart attack, You're
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: on top of it. Now you know. Now you know
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: how to treat it. Now you know what meds to take.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Now you've got a cardiologist. And in other words, it
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: made me feel better because it's right.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I do know. And it's better to know than not
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: to know. The glass half full approach. That's right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: And why not be– at least I'm aware. Poor Lindsey
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Graham didn't have a clue. A lot of people have
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: massive heart attacks, had no idea they were even up
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: against it.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And then they did nothing.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: My doctor did tell me a week or so ago, look,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: you're not going to drop dead in the next month.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: But if you did nothing about this, yeah, it would
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: get worse. You'd get more plaque. You'd have more of
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: a blockage. And you would probably have a terrible thing
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: happen to you. So the point is I'm not going
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: to let it go. And Muse made me feel better
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and less scared.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: This is a perfect, prescient– Trailblazing story. People listening to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: this right now are thinking one of two things. Like, wow,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: he's really on to something. Mike's an idiot. This is
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: our future. Mike's pathetic. Mike's pathetic. No, I don't. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: think you have found a way to display usefulness of
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: this technology. It is coming. It is here. Not everybody
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: has to do it. You can completely avoid this like
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the plague if you want to or use it a
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: little or put your toe in the pool or whatever.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: This is exactly what it's going to be doing for countless,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: countless people. And I will tell you, as the human
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: being talking to you right now, I am actually very,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: very pleased that it did that. And I've heard other
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: people garner certain benefits from it. Let me do something.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: But let me interject, though. I'm worried, though, about– and
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: you're right. In my case, in this particular chapter, it
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: was helpful. On the other hand, if somebody is suicidal
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: or if somebody is thinking about.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: What do you think it's going to do? If somebody
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: is suicidal, maybe it will give them reasons to live.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe or maybe not. Do it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Do it. What do you think it's going to do?
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I don't– I'm with you on the lack of trust.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I don't fully trust it when it comes to things
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: like mental health or emotions.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: It's one thing if it's finding an email from your
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: deleted emails, but when it's starting to tell you about
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: your feelings, about your psychological state, about what your feelings
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: might be towards your parents or your kids or your
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: wife or your husband, aren't we kind of getting into
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: a danger zone here?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Well, we are, and we're concerned about our muse bot saying,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you know, in view of what you told me, your
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: life does suck, and I'd probably be on top of
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: a building right now myself. I don't know. I guess.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I worry about it a little bit. And we're in
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a time now where, like it or not, we're facing
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: real life or death stories. We're facing people on the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: left who justify murder, people who justify abortion all the
• 26:11
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• 26:13
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  Speaker 2: get out of here today. Tomorrow, I don't even know
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: what to call it, Historical Travel Friday. I have been
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: to some places, and I know that our listeners have
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: thought about it. You just came from Salem, Massachusetts, where
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the witch trials were in, God, I want to say 1692.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Do I know that? Yeah. In there somewhere.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Somewhere around there. And I want to ply you with
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: questions about that and see some other places you've been
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: where you get to stand where the founders were or
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: stand where it might not even be American history. It
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: might be world history. Historical travel is some of my favorite.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Shall we weave a few tales about that tomorrow?
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Let's do that. I like that. We'll do that for
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: our Friday version. And by the way, you were right,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: February of 1692 through May of 1693. Look at that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I can't find my car keys, but I know what
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: year the Salem witch trials were. Good for you. Also,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: this just in, Mike's chances of a heart attack are
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: greater than Republicans keeping the House. 13 versus 11. Thank you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. You're supposed to make
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: me feel better, not worse. Let me make you feel
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: better about this. You said something that excited me, that
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: buoyed my hopes. And yet you've got to tell me
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: how it happens. You predict things. And then I say, well,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: tell me how it happens. And then they happen. Like
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: when you said Biden's getting out. And I went, he's
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: not getting out. Why would he get out? And I
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: was the big dummy. So here's the thing you got
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: to help me with here. You predict, I believe, don't
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: want to put words in your mouth. You predicted Rubio
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: is the 48th president, or at least he's going to
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: be the Republican nominee. I love, and I love, I too,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: like you, love J.D.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Vance.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: JD, but my gosh, every time Rubio is anywhere. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: in Greece, talking about Western civilization just made me just, Oh,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I'm ready for him to be Trump's successor today. However,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: he has said he won't run if J.D. Vance does.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: You know J.D. Vance is. So how do you get
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: me there? Well, that's an easy change. I mean, politicians
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: make that promise.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: He just changed his mind about that. They change their mind.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: They say, I've thought about it. I've consulted with my family,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: my loved ones. I've decided. I've talked to J.D.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: About it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of ways he can get
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: around that. But I'm telling you, this guy's got momentum now.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Unlike any politician I've seen in years, every time he speaks,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: he becomes more impressive. Millions of people like the guy.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: And he's one of those guys that he's broken the
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: shackles of the establishment Republican Party. And now he is
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: MAGA through and through. He is one of those great stories.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Marco Rubio is not and I'm not
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: going to say he's the nominee. I'm going to say
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: he's the next president.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: OK, I wondered whether. But so no matter who he's
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: up against, he will. I'd love to think that's true.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: And I want to believe that truth. I like our
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: chances in 2020. There you go. I can't wait to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: watch it play out. All right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I can't wait for tomorrow. The historical travel Friday tomorrow.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. Great to be back in
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: the saddle again, my friend. Let's do it tomorrow.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Take care. Thank you.