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Standing Up for Love with Katie Thurston · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Today we have a special guest. Her name is Katie Thurston.
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  Speaker 4: Hey Katie, Hello everybody.
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  Speaker 3: So Hey you so Pumpeda. Have you here by the way,
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  Speaker 3: Just very excited it's I have.
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  Speaker 5: I am so interested in your life right now, like
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  Speaker 5: from afar, follow you on social media with the show
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  Speaker 5: coming up. Just very intrigued by you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it in the best of ways.
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  Speaker 5: Like I just have a lot of questions, So I'll
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  Speaker 5: let Ashley dig in first, then I'm going to jump in.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds good.
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  Speaker 2: Well, obviously you're going to be on f Boy Island
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  Speaker 2: any day now. It's October sixteenth, Monday, October sixteenth is
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  Speaker 2: when you are going to be one of the three
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  Speaker 2: women trying to tell the difference between a nice guy
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  Speaker 2: and an f boy. It's the first season that it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be on c W. I want to know
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  Speaker 2: what your reaction was when you first met Alan Gale,
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  Speaker 2: who officiated my wedding and was a father of the
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise for so long.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'd never got to work with him, you know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: By the time I had my experience, well on Bachelor,
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  Speaker 4: I should say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yes, yes, yes, okay, ye yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I'd heard so many great things about him, and
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  Speaker 4: so when the opportunity came for the show, and his
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  Speaker 4: name obviously being like the mastermind behind it, I already
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  Speaker 4: had a feeling like it was going to be a
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  Speaker 4: really good match meeting him though everything everyone has ever
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  Speaker 4: said about him is true. He's amazing, He's a genius.
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  Speaker 4: He tells you ideas and you're just like, this is
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  Speaker 4: why you are doing what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So he was great. I love him. We're very
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  Speaker 4: close today, like we've been in constant contact even after
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  Speaker 4: the show, and I mean, he's going to be in
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  Speaker 4: my life forever for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I when I saw that you were going on f
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  Speaker 5: Boy Island, and obviously Alon was around when I was
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  Speaker 5: on the show, I immediately my first thought was like, those
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  Speaker 5: two are a good duo, Like you two could work
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  Speaker 5: really well together, and I kind of wanted to go
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  Speaker 5: in and we don't have to, you know, obviously your
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  Speaker 5: time on the Bachelorette is not something we're here to
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  Speaker 5: talk about. We're here to talk about Foy Island. But
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  Speaker 5: I think if you think back on your time as
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  Speaker 5: a bachelorette and you would have had an Alan there.
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  Speaker 5: Who let's be honest, right, Alan does share a lot
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  Speaker 5: of opinions. He has a lot of thoughts. He is
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  Speaker 5: much more I would say, vocal about what he thinks
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  Speaker 5: you should be doing and what he thinks would be
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  Speaker 5: really good. Sometimes that rubs people the wrong way. Sometimes
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  Speaker 5: you're like, no, that's a crazy thought. I would never
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  Speaker 5: do that myself. Do you think you would have appreciated
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  Speaker 5: having him there or do you think it would have
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  Speaker 5: annoyed you in that season of life?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it would have been a better experience, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And what I went through without him being there? And
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  Speaker 4: what now I know he's like if he had been there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he definitely has that human element of like,
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  Speaker 4: here's my thoughts, now, tell me what your thoughts are
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  Speaker 4: about that. It was just like it, oh, dialogue ongoing
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  Speaker 4: on how to make great TV? Fine love, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Like there was just so much transparency and that's something
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  Speaker 4: I really respect from him versus you know, other experiences
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  Speaker 4: are a little like everyone's trying to like make you
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  Speaker 4: a little bit bit of a puppet. It's like no, no,
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  Speaker 4: just tell me what you want and like, let's work
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  Speaker 4: together and make something great happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give me, give me the clarity.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's one of the big things that I
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  Speaker 5: felt was at least I had the clarity and I
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  Speaker 5: felt like I had the position to say, no, man,
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  Speaker 5: you're crazy. I'm not doing that. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 5: right at all. And at least the conversation existed. And
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  Speaker 5: maybe that was part of his strategy, because every time
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  Speaker 5: you just get worn down and you're like, yeah, I'll
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  Speaker 5: do whatever you say. But you know, before we dive
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  Speaker 5: into f Boy Island, you do have a career right
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  Speaker 5: now in improv. You have been doing stand up. I
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  Speaker 5: have done that once in my life. I think it
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  Speaker 5: was the hardest thing I've ever done. I never want
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  Speaker 5: to do it again because.
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  Speaker 3: I wants to do it so badly.
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  Speaker 5: I was sweating all over in places I didn't know
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  Speaker 5: I could sweat. I was sick to my stonfe make
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  Speaker 5: it the green room behind it, it was a It
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  Speaker 5: was an open mic. Night was chaotic because you have
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  Speaker 5: people getting sick from being nervous, you have people super
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  Speaker 5: chilled out being like this is just great. And then
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  Speaker 5: you had me just in the corner like shaking, like
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to do it. Katie, what made you
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  Speaker 5: step into that? And kind of how's it going? Give
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  Speaker 5: us a quick update?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, first of all, Jared should definitely give it
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  Speaker 4: a shot, because you never know until you do it.
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  Speaker 4: You have either a Ben who's like I tried it,
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  Speaker 4: never again or myself who when I did my first
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  Speaker 4: open mic, same vibe, I was like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: and then did it. I watched the tape back I
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  Speaker 4: was like, hell, yeah, I got this.
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  Speaker 3: You did.
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  Speaker 2: You do have a set written out?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So when I did my very first open mic,
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  Speaker 4: it's three minutes, which is so obtainable, right, And so
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  Speaker 4: I kept chickening out and then finally I was just
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  Speaker 4: telling you. I'm like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: do I'm gonna do it. Kind of hold myself accountable
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  Speaker 4: by like announcing it. You know, like once you put
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  Speaker 4: it out in the world, you look like a little
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  Speaker 4: chicken when you like back out. So I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: everyone knows I'm gonna do it, so I might as
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  Speaker 4: well go all in. So, yeah, I had practice a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of a three month the set, but you
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  Speaker 4: really don't know what it's like until you're on stage.
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  Speaker 4: And so when I was on stage, I felt like
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  Speaker 4: I blinked and it was over. But then when I
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  Speaker 4: watched the video back that my friend recorded, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I think I got this. And so it's been a
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  Speaker 4: year now of doing stand up, both with either open
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  Speaker 4: mics or big shows with big names, and it's just
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  Speaker 4: been so much fun.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Can you give us a joke right now?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: Literally, men will say that when they find out you're
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  Speaker 4: a comic, They're like, Oh, tell me something funny, and
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  Speaker 4: then I just look at them and I say men,
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  Speaker 4: and then I just want I usually, you know, shut
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  Speaker 4: a lot of guys up when they do that.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that's the thing with with stand up ash.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when I was preparing for it and I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to give it a shot, was like, it's there
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  Speaker 5: is such a different kind of mind space that I
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  Speaker 5: had to get into to go up on the stage
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  Speaker 5: and to share what I was wanting to share and
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  Speaker 5: to see if it would work and react to. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I had I had jokes or segments that got no
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  Speaker 5: last I had some that got a ton of laughs,
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  Speaker 5: and I think Actually I found it more funny once
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  Speaker 5: I was up there at the ones that I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: getting laughs at because it was so awkward, and the
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  Speaker 5: awkwardness makes people laugh, and that was fine for me.
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  Speaker 3: I was good with it. Okay, So, Katie, My first
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  Speaker 3: thought on f Boy Island.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously we've mentioned that we're supporters of Alan tuned in
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  Speaker 5: to the first season. What happens if one of the
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  Speaker 5: three of you just want an f boy? Like, is
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  Speaker 5: that an option or are you all agreeing to look
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  Speaker 5: for the nice guy?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Like, you're not there to really find love, are you.
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  Speaker 4: I mean with this show, it's very different because there's
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  Speaker 4: there's multiple levels to it. There's one hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 4: on the line. There's also the dating element, so it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of like a win win, like, hopefully maybe I
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  Speaker 4: win some money, maybe I find love, maybe a boyfriend.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we all kind of had different goals. The
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  Speaker 4: perk of looking for a nice guy is it's an
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  Speaker 4: automatic split of the one hundred thousand dollars with them,
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  Speaker 4: So in some degree you hope you fall for a
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  Speaker 4: nice But the thing is, we don't know who that
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  Speaker 4: is yet. So once we've already developed feelings and a
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  Speaker 4: relationship with someone. Towards the end is the reveal of
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  Speaker 4: who is an F boy who's a nice guy? And
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  Speaker 4: sometimes you're just stuck with maybe all F boys and
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  Speaker 4: like you have to just hope that maybe they're what
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  Speaker 4: we call reformed and will choose to walk away with
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  Speaker 4: you and the money at the end, or are they
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  Speaker 4: just the ultimate F boy and they take one hundred
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  Speaker 4: thousand dollars and leave you heartbroken and broke.
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  Speaker 5: The For those who haven't seen the show, do these
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  Speaker 5: guys know what category they're in or is this a
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  Speaker 5: surprise to them?
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  Speaker 4: So every guy comes in with their own definition of
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  Speaker 4: what they think is a nice guy or an F boy,
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  Speaker 4: So you're not like assigned a category. People have their
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  Speaker 4: different reasons for, you know, self labeling themselves is what
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  Speaker 4: they are. You know, I will hint that there was
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  Speaker 4: one nice guy who we will all agree was not
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  Speaker 4: so much of a nice guy. So just because they
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  Speaker 4: label themselves something doesn't mean like that's really who they are.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to have you call out any
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  Speaker 2: of your bachelor exes directly, but we know that you've
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  Speaker 2: dated Matt James Blake Wins and then your boyfriend that
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  Speaker 2: you met on your season, John, that you ended up
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  Speaker 2: dating in real.
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  Speaker 3: Life, but you were no longer with.
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  Speaker 2: Of the three of those guys, is there an f
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  Speaker 2: boy amongst them?
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  Speaker 4: I will say this, I do think I tend to
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  Speaker 4: date nice guys, and I would say all three of
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  Speaker 4: those are nice guys. And then in my experience on
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  Speaker 4: this show, I thought I was going to be really
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  Speaker 4: good at picking out who the nice guys are because
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  Speaker 4: that's the type that I date. I was very very
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  Speaker 4: wrong in truth.
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  Speaker 3: Was that a surprise to yourself? Were you?
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  Speaker 5: I mean kind of what's your emotions? Is that as
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  Speaker 5: you walk through this process? Were you frustrated with yourself? Surprised?
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  Speaker 4: I mean overall, I was happy with my experience and
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  Speaker 4: learning about myself and getting to watch these men kind
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  Speaker 4: of navigate their experience as well. But there was at
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  Speaker 4: least one situation that left me very frustrated because it
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  Speaker 4: was very much like a blindside.
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  Speaker 3: I'll say that M something to tune into.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Katie, you obviously have been in the spotlight, you
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  Speaker 5: were the Bachelorette, You've gone on to stand on stages.
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  Speaker 5: You're correct me If I'm wrong, tell me that if
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  Speaker 5: I'm far off, your experience on reality television up to
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  Speaker 5: let's say six months ago was maybe not a positive one. Like,
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't one that you would say, yes, this was
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  Speaker 5: the best season of my life. You know, there's good
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  Speaker 5: things that came from it, but you know you you
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  Speaker 5: weren't exactly like seeking to get back onto the Bachelorette
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  Speaker 5: to be the bachelorret at.
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  Speaker 3: A second time. What is it? Am I right or wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I had a lot of emotion recovery
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  Speaker 4: from my reality TV experiences and I didn't have it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the front of my mind to ever
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  Speaker 4: really go on reality TV again. So when I got
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  Speaker 4: the call actually for Bachelor in Paradise and for f
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  Speaker 4: Boy Island this summer, it was just kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 4: I guess, I guess I'm not done with reality TV.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so what like.
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  Speaker 5: Give us a perspective to you personally then, like what
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  Speaker 5: made you say yes to this stuff?
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  Speaker 4: So for f Boy Island, I'd never seen the show,
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  Speaker 4: so I had binge watched season two before agreeing to
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  Speaker 4: do it and then seeing what it was about. Nicki Glazer,
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  Speaker 4: who's a comic. She's the host alone he's the executive producer.
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  Speaker 4: There was just all these positives behind the scenes and
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  Speaker 4: what the show is about. That felt like maybe this
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  Speaker 4: was going to be a better match for me and
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  Speaker 4: my personality than what like traditional bachelorette is. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's very bachelor, it's very serious, which is great and
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  Speaker 4: works for some people. I just think that's not a
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  Speaker 4: good match for me, you know. So my experience in
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  Speaker 4: doing f Boy Island was are silly and there's humor,
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  Speaker 4: and there's comedians both on this on the cast and
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  Speaker 4: behind the scenes, like it's just a big fun joke
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  Speaker 4: that we're all in on it. It was just it was
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  Speaker 4: just a much better experience. I'm really glad.
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  Speaker 2: I said, yes, now you're with two other girls during
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  Speaker 2: this whole process. It never seems to get catty between
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  Speaker 2: the girls though, but what if you're like fighting over
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  Speaker 2: the same guy because you are genuinely interested, Like, does
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  Speaker 2: it give you bachelor and paradise vibes?
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  Speaker 4: So we all talked about that we didn't really know
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  Speaker 4: what to expect, but truly, with the exception of one person,
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  Speaker 4: it all kind of organically worked itself out naturally. The
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  Speaker 4: one guy that they were kind of both interested in
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  Speaker 4: they talked about real quickly, like behind the scenes, it's
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  Speaker 4: not even a moment for the show, and we're just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: go for it. You know, I got a good group
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  Speaker 4: of men here, so they're really for us. Wasn't that
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to really fight over anybody or trade and it
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  Speaker 4: just kind of worked out organically.
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  Speaker 5: How does that make it different? And when they did
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  Speaker 5: two bachelorettes, you think, is there a difference between them?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't know how that worked for
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  Speaker 4: the two bachelorettes. I can only speak from my own
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  Speaker 4: bachelorette experience, and what I will say is on f
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  Speaker 4: Boy Island, there's a lot of freedom to just exist
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  Speaker 4: as you are, you know, like like I didn't get
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  Speaker 4: interrupted a lot. There wasn't a lot of producer input,
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  Speaker 4: like they're there, but like as nothing like there's just
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  Speaker 4: they're not interrupting anything, you know. And so I think
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  Speaker 4: that really allowed for organic connections to happen, whereas as
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  Speaker 4: you guys know, with you know, the Bachelor, there is
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more of like guidance for certain things
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  Speaker 4: to happen or conversations or people to be talked to,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So I think just by allowing us to
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  Speaker 4: exist freely, allowed everything to just work out the way
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  Speaker 4: it's supposed to.
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  Speaker 5: What what happens Katie and I apologize, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I know you go to Bachelor in Paradise. You just
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  Speaker 5: mentioned it. We've seen the teasers. It's not a it's
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  Speaker 5: not a spoiler. I don't know what capacity, like, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if it's in a Hannah Brown capacity and
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  Speaker 5: you're you're just going down to you know, shakes things
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  Speaker 5: up for a couple hours and you're like, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 5: just actually here a chill, or if you're actually going
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  Speaker 5: as a contestant. Is that has that been released yet?
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  Speaker 4: That hasn't been talked about. So yeah, you will have
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  Speaker 4: to kind of tune in. I will say Paradise was
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  Speaker 4: filmed first, so the timing of what ends up happening
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  Speaker 4: on Paradise during filming, after filming, and then going on
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  Speaker 4: to F Boy, which you know sometimes there are f girls.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say that in short, you just got to tune
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  Speaker 4: into both shows to kind of see what ends up happening.
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  Speaker 5: It's a big piece and that's like my my curiosity
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  Speaker 5: is here. Let's just say, you know, we don't let's
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  Speaker 5: just say, you go down to Paradise to date, you
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  Speaker 5: find love. What happens then with your commitment to go
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  Speaker 5: to F boy Island.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just because there's F boys doesn't mean they
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  Speaker 4: can't be F girls.
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  Speaker 3: So this is big. Wow, that's really big.
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  Speaker 2: For some reason, seeing you walk down those steps in Paradise,
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  Speaker 2: I never even contemplating, contemplated you being a contestant where
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  Speaker 2: you actually totally can be what it just like was
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  Speaker 2: ruled out in my head that you would ever go
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  Speaker 2: down as a contestant. Okay, Wow, this is good, this
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  Speaker 2: is juicy. Now, you haven't talked to Blake for two years,
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  Speaker 2: he says, as you walk down the stairs, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: tease us with how your first interaction was.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. I was told when I was gonna see everybody,
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  Speaker 4: everyone's going to be very excited and get up and
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  Speaker 4: hug me. And so I went in with this like
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  Speaker 4: mentality like I'm about to be so welcome. When I
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  Speaker 4: walk down, obviously the first person I look for is Blake,
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  Speaker 4: and he's looking at me like he saw a ghost.
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  Speaker 4: And it feels like five minutes of nobody saying anything,
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  Speaker 4: no one's getting up, Like I feel so uncomfortable, like
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  Speaker 4: I will do open mic over and over again before
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  Speaker 4: I ever had to experience entering the beach that way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you. I did.
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  Speaker 5: Were you nervous though, I mean, like, were you nervous
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  Speaker 5: to see Blake again?
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  Speaker 4: You know, so much time had passed. I was indifferent,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I Blake's is very mature and despite how
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  Speaker 4: things happened, you know, in the aftermath overall, like we were,
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  Speaker 4: we were two happy people in love at one point,
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  Speaker 4: and so I was very optimistic that, you know, regardless
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  Speaker 4: of his situation status on Paradise, that the conversation was
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  Speaker 4: going to be a positive one and much needed, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as we both navigate whatever happens next in our lives.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I have to just say, as a bachelor detective here,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the bachelor contract would not have allowed you to go
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: down there and date in then do f Boy Island,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: So you are not a contestant.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: So this is you are not a contestant.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're entitled to your thoughts. Just you have
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: to know as a as a former bachelorette, you do
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: have a little bit more power and what your trap
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: says and how you navigate that. So I am a
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: very smart business woman. I read my contracts, I negotiate
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: my contracts, and all I'm going to say is, obviously
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: I made it work out for me the way I
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: needed to that best was going to benefit my life,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: my love life, and my bank account.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not convince you're not a contestant me neither.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Now that response was epic.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's I think it's very fair. Here
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: here's the wild part about all this, Katie. Let's just
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: say you were a contestant. You've spent the last I mean,
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: you spent all summer on television, like you were filming
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: all summer like this is you got to feel all
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: sorts of weird, right, Like that's a whole different reality
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: than the real world and sitting in your house with
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: a foster dog.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it was because the dust felt like it
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: was finally settling in my life. I was like, all right,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: this is the next chapter of what I'm going to do.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: And then these phone calls happen. I go, well, I
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: guess my summer is in front of the camera again.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: So was that exciting?
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: Like are you looking were you looking forward to that
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: or is this like like does it feel like intimidating
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: and nerve wracking.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: You know, I did. I did my research with both opportunities,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Like I really didn't. I wasn't quick to be like, yes,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: put me in front of that camera. You know. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: really made sure it made sense for me, for my
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: mental health, for everything that I worked so hard to find,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: you know, in this point in my life. And so
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: this year of reality TV has just for both shows,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: has just been so much better than my past experiences,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: and so I'm really glad to just leave on a
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: positive note with you know, both different like franchises, my
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: mental health, you know, coming off of it, and just
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: feeling just overall very good about my experiences.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: So if you are dating in Paradise, who was on
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: your list that you wanted to see down there?
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: That was the hard part because I haven't actually watched.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: That was a hard part. So she had to do it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I looked, you can do all you want, Ashley, but no,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: but I really I haven't kept up with the show.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: And so when I showed up there was a lot
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: of faces. I had no idea who they were. I
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: don't know where they a villain, are they a good guy?
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Are they just a night one guy? I had no
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: idea who anybody was really.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Who was the hottest when you got down there.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: I'll be so honest, there was this comfort in seeing
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Blake again. It definitely stirred up some like things I
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: didn't know.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: We're still there and he's kind of he's just looking good,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: like we're all everybody talking about Blake two point zero
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: is doing all right for himself.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: It's that breakup glow up that everybody goes through, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: you did it. So I was like, nice to see you.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: We had Wells on a few weeks ago, and as
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: we close out here with you, obviously f Boy Island
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: is coming up.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Prety should tune in.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: There's just a lot of intrigue and it's a very
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: fun show to watch. I don't think the name fully
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: represents the show. I think there's a lot of really
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: good like moments too behind well that we get to
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: watch on television as well. But we had Wells on
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: a few weeks ago, and he had mentioned that there's
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: a unique dynamic when a lead a former league comes
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: onto the beach, and that you know, you have multiple
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: different ways of going about it. Once some of the
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: leads go down and they only care about everybody else
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: because they don't feel like they need to care about
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: themselves or really pursue relationships of selves. Some leads come
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: down and they kind of have this ego give or take,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: you know, a little bit to say, hey, you know,
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I was a lead and I'm coming back to the
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: paradise and you know, y'all you're gonna want me, because yeah,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: at one point I was it. How would you best
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: describe kind of your feelings leading up to the beach?
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, I I definitely did not want to target
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: on my back, so I wanted to make sure I
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: was humble in my experience. Also, let's not forget two
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: guys quit my season, so I don't really have that
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: confidence as the bachelorette. I'm just Katie coming to the
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: beach and if you like me, great. If you don't,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: well that's your loss. But no, I definitely want to
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: stay humble and just open and not have this like
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: entitlement when I was there.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Is it the same mentel you took on f Boy Island?
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Even more so on f Boy Island because it's a
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: shared lead spot with two other women, and I was
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: very nervous that they would feel some kind of way
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: fun fact, they had no idea who I was, so
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: we didn't even have to deal with that. So we
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: really got to navigate our experience, you know, as three
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: equal women dating these guys, and kind of every night
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: we kind of go through the list and like, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: mix around cards like this has to be an f boy,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: this has to be a nice guy. And that was
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: kind of our like bonding moment every night after filming when.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: You go down to Paradise.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know that there's anybody from your season besides Blake,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: But when you look back on your season, you did
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: date John after the fact, is there anybody else that
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: you were like, Oh, like I could revisit and date
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: that person, I'm thinking because Michael Alio is single. Your
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: take on all that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I will say there definitely was a time where Michael
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: was on my mind, but more like fresh in my
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: experiences and reflecting and watching back and just all of
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: that stuff. With all the time that has passed, I
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: do feel like I don't know him as who he
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: is today. You know, a lot of people go on
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: the show and come out a little different. A lot
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: of people go on the show and it's a heightened
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: version of themselves. But then you get to kind of
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: see them on social media and you're like, oh, that's
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: a little different, you know. So there definitely was a
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: time where Michael was on my mind, but I can
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: say pretty confidently that that would never be experienced again.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Well, Katie, we got to let you go, but we
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: do want to remind everybody tune in the f Boy Island.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Katie is going to be one of the three women
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: walking through the experience.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: What do you call them?
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: What do you call yourselves as the kind of leads
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: of f Boy Island? Is there a name for it?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: You know? Some of the articles have been just calling
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: us the bachelorette, but yeah, I'd just say the leading
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: women of.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: F Boy Island, leading women of f Boy Island. And
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: also we've got to tune in to uh to Katie's
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: story on the beach in Paradise to see how this
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: all kind of like filters out.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Katie, I'm watching.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: And I'm listening to you, and I'm thinking this has
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: to just get messy. I don't know if it does,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: but it feels like it had a lot of risk
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: to get messy and I want to see if it happens.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I am known for being messy, so tune in to
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: find out.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: That's is good TV.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: So thank you, Katie. We'll see you on our TVs
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: multiple times a week soon maybes, yes, maybe it thank you.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Bye bye.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Well that's been Katie Thurston, former bachelorette, also a potential
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: contestant on Bachelor in Paradise and one of the leading
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: women on f Boy Island. Katie's got a lot going
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: on uh this summer. I if you you're going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: be watching a lot of her, you can tune in
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: to f Bay Island on the CW. As we spoke about,
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: and I don't know, Katie should be shown up to
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: the beach soon. I guess it would happen within the
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: next couple of weeks.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I'm excited about that. That is so unexpected.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I totally just.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Assumed she wasn't coming because she's on f Boy Island.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Oh she worked it all out. Well, until next time,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I've been, Ben, I've been Ashley. Talk to you soon.
• 23:27
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