Latest / Privycast / Ep. 135 Sex Separated Bathrooms
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- 0:01>> Hunter Hoover: Share a space that
- 0:03is pretty intimate and private.
- 0:07And when they share that space with a person of
- 0:10the opposite sex, things
- 0:13get uncomfortable for people.
- 0:19Um, welcome back to privy. Privy is a
- 0:21podcast about bathrooms
- 0:24recorded from my home bathroom.
- 0:27I'm your host, hunter Hoover, and I
- 0:30love bathrooms. Welcome back, everyone. I hope you
- 0:33guys are enjoying the summer air. For those
- 0:35who are joining us by video, you're going to be able to
- 0:38see it in my face. Um, but
- 0:41less than 20 minutes ago, I was just
- 0:44neck deep in a cherry tree, just plucking
- 0:47cherries, just fisting
- 0:50cherries out of a tree left and right.
- 0:54I swam to Jan. As soon as I got out of that tree,
- 0:57it was like the floodgates of the histamines
- 1:00in my face opened up, and
- 1:03I unleashed an allergy cavalcade
- 1:06the likes I had not seen in some time. Now
- 1:09I'm also just getting over some seasonal
- 1:12ish. Um, so the post nasal drip is
- 1:15fierce. So, for those who are joining us, if this your
- 1:18first time joining us here on privy, and you're wondering,
- 1:20my goodness, is he going to talk about allergies this much
- 1:23on a show about bathrooms? Like, I already clicked on this show,
- 1:26and it had a toilet as, like, the
- 1:29thing. Like, I was already on the fence. But, yes, there's
- 1:32gonna be some allergy conversation at the beginning of this
- 1:35one. We will do our best. Um, the
- 1:37video editing is next to nothing,
- 1:40so forgive the. Forgive the allergy
- 1:43sniffles. Um, they exist. We will do our best
- 1:46to power through and do that. But it's
- 1:48June, and we're almost to the. We're. We're almost
- 1:51to the end of the rainbow hellscape
- 1:54that is June. I want to share
- 1:58just my interactions. So I live here in
- 2:01the, I will say, smallish city
- 2:03of Albany, Oregon. And, uh, this
- 2:06just today, Albany, Oregon, had
- 2:09its pride celebration. They got together
- 2:12downtown, and they had rainbows all over.
- 2:15Um, and I. Whatever. Like,
- 2:18I'm staying out of it. I chose
- 2:21to not go downtown, but what I will say
- 2:24is the Facebook page for. For Albany
- 2:27pride, um, says that
- 2:29they. That they wish that there be
- 2:32no public disturbance during the
- 2:35event. And I think that is an
- 2:38excellent idea. The problem is, is the event shut
- 2:41down at least two public roads
- 2:43downtown, and I believe it's more like four, but two
- 2:46that I could tell. And as far as there not being a
- 2:49public disturbance, in my opinion, if we had just not
- 2:52had a full blown festival of
- 2:55rainbows downtown today, we could have avoided
- 2:58all of the public disturbance. So much so
- 3:01that I took my son and we went and put Pokemon
- 3:04go elsewhere. But, um, in honor of the month of
- 3:07June, we need to talk about the elephant
- 3:09in the room, or perhaps it's
- 3:12the ass in the corner. We try not to get political
- 3:15on the show.
- 3:17Um, but Papa Joe,
- 3:20he came into the bathroom space.
- 3:23He kind of entered the bathroom, ripped a fat
- 3:25beefer. It's good he did it in the bathroom this time.
- 3:28It seems like he's been willing to do that from the stage,
- 3:31but he really mucked things up for
- 3:33everybody. And as always,
- 3:36we cannot start with Joe Byron, um.
- 3:40Cause it turns out
- 3:43the pride rainbows run deep in his 80
- 3:46whatever year old catholic heart. But we can't
- 3:49start there. Today, we are tackling the
- 3:52super chill, the. The super chill
- 3:55and totally uncharged
- 3:57topic of
- 4:00segregated bathrooms. More
- 4:01specifically, sex segregated
- 4:04bathrooms.
- 4:14When we start talking about the history of
- 4:17sex separated bathrooms, it is one where,
- 4:20like most market economies, it
- 4:23is not a question of when or how, but
- 4:26what was the need? When did the need
- 4:29arise for us to separate these
- 4:31bathrooms?
- 4:34And for a really long time, there wasn't much of
- 4:36a need to separate bathrooms based on men and
- 4:39women. In the earliest days of public
- 4:42bathrooms, those of ancient Rome. There you go, guys.
- 4:45We thought about it for the day where public
- 4:47bathrooms were probably a lot more public than anyone
- 4:50really wanted. Like, they're so public that if you look to
- 4:53your left, you're probably going to see nasty Dave's little Dave
- 4:56as he makes his deposit. Or if you're
- 4:59lucky, he'll offer you to use his
- 5:01spongy poo wiping wand. Check out
- 5:04episode one if you want to know more about the wiping wand and
- 5:07Dave. But separating everyone
- 5:10from using the same bathroom
- 5:13wasn't really an area of concern in
- 5:15ancient Rome. And that's mostly
- 5:18because
- 5:21they were not worried about making sure that
- 5:24women could use these restrooms. The
- 5:27restrooms were for those who were going to be in the public
- 5:30space. And while women did use them, they
- 5:33were designed often by men, and they
- 5:35were not designed thinking, oh, man, we got to make sure that
- 5:39the ladies are comfortable here. Most
- 5:41of the time, women were not out in public as
- 5:45often or not in the same
- 5:47capacity as men. And so often,
- 5:50you know, we're less likely
- 5:53to be using these public bathrooms.
- 5:56Now, uh, a woman could
- 5:59use these public bathrooms as much as
- 6:02I can use an Ada big
- 6:04stall. But just like the
- 6:07Ada big stall is not designed for me in
- 6:10mind. It's designed for people with limited mobility,
- 6:14wheelchairs and the like in mind, the
- 6:16public bathrooms of ancient Rome were not
- 6:19designed with women in mind,
- 6:22they were designed for anyone in public use. And in
- 6:25ancient Rome, men were often the people who
- 6:28were out in the public more often.
- 6:31So, technically, yes,
- 6:33Rome had unisex bathrooms,
- 6:36but only in the sense that they had
- 6:39bathrooms and didn't think of separating
- 6:42them at all. It's a wild world.
- 6:45Uh, it's really the wild west of
- 6:47separate bathroom. I mean,
- 6:51we're getting ready to do full circle on it.
- 6:54And if you hear that and you think,
- 6:57man, that really doesn't sound great. Like,
- 7:01that doesn't sound like what I want to get my ish
- 7:04into. I cannot stress. These
- 7:07bathrooms were very public,
- 7:10but they were still not quite as public
- 7:14as many of the bathrooms that they used in the
- 7:17middle ages. During the middle
- 7:20ages, they saved time and money by not
- 7:23even building bathrooms. You
- 7:26know what will save us? Let's not even build toilets. Let's
- 7:29just take a fat chassis right in the river,
- 7:31drop a stack right in the middle of the street.
- 7:35So, again, technically public,
- 7:38technically a unisex bathroom,
- 7:41but this time, it is only a unisex
- 7:44public bathroom in the sense that all
- 7:47of the outdoors is public.
- 7:50By that knowledge, bears on the regular.
- 7:52Where's the bears supposed to poop? If not in the woods,
- 7:56but the bears on the regular, then, are using
- 7:58unisex public bathrooms. Are we trying to
- 8:01be no better than bears? Not as
- 8:04public. Uh, but it is. And
- 8:07you can't get much more public than Dr. Like hanging
- 8:10beef in the middle of the street. And
- 8:13that didn't last long. In the Renaissance
- 8:15era, perspectives about bodily
- 8:18functions and sex
- 8:21separated ideas began
- 8:24to shift, and there was an
- 8:26increased focus and an
- 8:29increased importance placed on
- 8:32privacy, specifically the privacy
- 8:35of a woman. How we
- 8:38view the time spent in the
- 8:40bathroom changed, and as they
- 8:43started to perceive this separation,
- 8:46as time went on, the private things that we
- 8:49sometimes have to do in public
- 8:51started to be separated as well.
- 9:01As men and women. Both began to be in
- 9:04these public spaces more often.
- 9:07And with ongoing changes in cultural
- 9:10norms and expectations for
- 9:13both sexes as it relates to what you
- 9:16do in private, this led
- 9:18to women needing to
- 9:21access a public bathroom more
- 9:24often. And there's this moment,
- 9:27do they use the same
- 9:29bathroom? Like, it
- 9:31seems as if there's a cultural shift at this
- 9:34time, because for so long,
- 9:37that's how it was. There was not a special space for
- 9:40women. Um. Um. And not in a
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- 9:46here. Mango, BlackBerry, polar
- 9:48seltzer. Oh,
- 9:51get it, get it.
- 9:54Praise be to he. It's just
- 9:57good. Um, polar. You guys are doing good stuff out
- 10:00here. But there's this moment, like, do men and
- 10:03women now use the same bathroom? Since there's, like, new
- 10:06standards of privacy? And for a time, that's how
- 10:09it was. If there was a public bathroom,
- 10:12it could be used by all intended
- 10:15for males, like, designed for males in mind,
- 10:18because they were the ones who were leaving the house, going
- 10:21out, working, doing those things,
- 10:23um, but could be used by
- 10:26both. And there's been a couple of
- 10:29stories about how we arrive at these
- 10:32sex separated bathrooms as we
- 10:35come out of the 16 hundreds.
- 10:37The first is a story about the first sex
- 10:40separated bathrooms placed in public, at least
- 10:43the first ones that we have on record.
- 10:48This was reported as
- 10:501739 in Paris, France.
- 10:52You know what I found out? Here's something that I find
- 10:56interesting. If you're going to
- 10:58talk about the history of
- 11:01bathrooms, it's only
- 11:04a matter of time before you get back to Rome,
- 11:08ancient Rome, which, here we are, guys, we
- 11:11talk about it. Or France.
- 11:13Like, the French are just wild about
- 11:16toilets. They cannot get enough.
- 11:19The French are absolutely hog wild
- 11:22about where they go to the bathroom.
- 11:26But this. This first reported
- 11:29public sex separated
- 11:32bathroom was reportedly used at a
- 11:35restaurant as kind of a gimmick
- 11:37to make the men and women of the upper class and
- 11:40the establishment feel
- 11:43refined, as if they have their own
- 11:46special bathroom spaces. It was kind of a party
- 11:49trick. Um, is the way that this
- 11:52story goes. Now,
- 11:56it was a way of making both the men and
- 11:59women feel special.
- 12:02Now, the interesting thing about this theory is
- 12:06it was not technically a public bathroom
- 12:09because it was a sex separated
- 12:12restroom at a private ball
- 12:15held by french king Louis
- 12:17XVI, the Hotel Deville, in
- 12:20celebration of his daughter's wedding, to which
- 12:23about 14,000 people were reportedly invited.
- 12:26Now, it's not technically public,
- 12:30but if you're anywhere in this world, if you
- 12:33are in any space on planet Earth
- 12:36and there are 14,000 people
- 12:39there with you, it's
- 12:42going to feel pretty public. Like it? Uh,
- 12:45but, yeah, the story doesn't completely
- 12:48check out, but I would argue 14,000 people in
- 12:50attendance might as well be public. King Louis.
- 12:53Little bit. Little bit too big of a flex there. But
- 12:57the second prevailing theory about sex
- 13:00separated bathrooms comes
- 13:03from, uh, is from. And that it
- 13:06is derived from sexist ideas
- 13:09out of the further intermingling of the
- 13:12sexes after the industrial revolution,
- 13:15um, especially post world war.
- 13:19The idea is, as women went to work
- 13:22and were found in work
- 13:25spaces more often, the
- 13:27theory says that men chose
- 13:30to separate the bathrooms by
- 13:33sex in order to fight back and
- 13:36further limit, at least in one space
- 13:39where men and women could mingle. It
- 13:42was as if they're saying, if you're going to be here at work
- 13:44with me, you will not be in the bathroom with me. This is
- 13:47a no lady zone. Um, and if that was
- 13:50true, we're going to get into that. But if that were
- 13:53true, in my experience with interacting with women,
- 13:58they don't care. Like, they have
- 14:00almost negative desire to be
- 14:03in a bathroom space with any
- 14:06man. Like, I think
- 14:09if. If you even ask married
- 14:11couples and you ask the lady and they're like,
- 14:14hey, if you had a perfect world where you could have your
- 14:17own bathroom, didn't have to share with your husband, would you take
- 14:20it? I think most of them are going to say
- 14:23yes. Like, so,
- 14:26oh, you really show to men of the industrial revolution if
- 14:29this was true.
- 14:32But as it turns out, many of the laws
- 14:35about bathrooms and sex separation
- 14:38in the workplace occurred
- 14:40to curb sexual harassment that was on
- 14:43the rise as men and women
- 14:45populated the same public,
- 14:49yet very private
- 14:51spaces. Isn't that
- 14:53interesting? You know, that's pretty
- 14:56interesting. When men and women
- 14:59share a space that
- 15:02is pretty intimate and private,
- 15:06and when they share that space with a person of
- 15:09the opposite sex, things
- 15:12get uncomfortable for people. And there were
- 15:15sexual harassment cases from this,
- 15:18I want to note before you, unless somebody hears
- 15:21this and say, oh, well, here's another, here's another angry
- 15:24whatever, trying to dunk on
- 15:27sex separated bathrooms. Um, most
- 15:30of the like, other than my commentary,
- 15:33the last few minutes of information was gained from
- 15:35Yale laws website. Link in
- 15:38the. In the diddly bopper down below. Go check that
- 15:41out. Um, this is their findings.
- 15:44Do with that what you will. In the
- 15:47article, it is cited that the first
- 15:50laws about sex separated
- 15:52bathrooms can be seen in Massachusetts in
- 15:551887. Now, the
- 15:58media, that modern day media,
- 16:01I'm looking at you, modern day media, you sick
- 16:04freak. Um, they incorrectly
- 16:07assume that since this is the first time
- 16:10we see Allah calling for sex
- 16:13separated bathrooms, it's the first time it ever happened.
- 16:16But for lack of a better way of saying it,
- 16:19that's stupid. It's also not
- 16:22accurate.
- 16:30I want to also note, as we transition into the
- 16:33next section, that much of the
- 16:35research and much of the information in this
- 16:38episode is in the debt of A.
- 16:41W. Brulette Carter, who wrote an article
- 16:44debunking the history of sex separated
- 16:47bathrooms in 2018. Again, link
- 16:50episode description go, go check out,
- 16:53uh, cite your sources, kids.
- 16:57If. If I'm going to tell you something, cite your sources.
- 17:00It's the best thing you can do.
- 17:02If you want to read it, it's down there. It's a lot, but it's
- 17:05good information. But first is noted that this
- 17:08idea of separating sexes in
- 17:11public, yet private natured spaces,
- 17:14bathrooms, locker rooms,
- 17:17pretty much the two things, you know, like, here we
- 17:20are, goes back to ancient times, and they
- 17:23have found writings and other notes about times
- 17:26when women would be allowed to access these public
- 17:29bathrooms. So what it was is, like I said,
- 17:32with the ancient roman public bathrooms, in
- 17:34certain parts and in certain cities, they would have
- 17:37women hours or women blocks where
- 17:40they would block off sections of time. And that was
- 17:43when women and children could go.
- 17:47Again, they didn't. It was unisex, but they
- 17:50separated when they could go. Greek writing
- 17:53and greek culture speaks of human nudity and
- 17:56privateness as something that ought to be kept
- 17:59separate as often as they were able to
- 18:02do so. This is seen in songs, plays,
- 18:05artistic depictions of the time.
- 18:08Jonathan Swift, in his satire of the
- 18:11nobility, wrote of setting up a bunch of
- 18:14toilets so they can sit out there and take a dump.
- 18:16And in it, he wrote about putting, quote,
- 18:19the other sex in the cells on the
- 18:22left. In other words, even in
- 18:25Jonathan Swift's time in, um,
- 18:28early England, they
- 18:31were separating. The idea of
- 18:34separating private spaces based on
- 18:36sex was not uncommon, and it was not
- 18:39unheard of, mostly
- 18:41because they could intuit that it was the
- 18:44right thing to do.
- 18:47These can be seen in the history of separate
- 18:50sex in public baths within the United States
- 18:53since the outset of the country. And we covered the public
- 18:56bath movement, um, back. I think it
- 18:59was during the bit about the Chicago
- 19:01fire. Um, you'd have to go check that out.
- 19:05Um, in short, those public baths in America
- 19:08had a. Had a different problem. It was not sexism.
- 19:10It was outright racism. That was the
- 19:13trouble with those. It should also be
- 19:16noted that this
- 19:19idea that we need to separate
- 19:22the sexes did not apply to
- 19:25the lower class. It was the nobility that
- 19:28often had this treatment. It was as if the
- 19:30low class had to just deal with sharing these
- 19:33spaces with one another, rather
- 19:36than what is tried to be peddled today by
- 19:39the media. That is that sex separated bathrooms
- 19:42are a, uh, modern sexist idea used
- 19:45to separate us. It would seem that
- 19:48quite the opposite is true.
- 19:50Rather, as you look back at history and
- 19:53you take a good, long look at common
- 19:55sense, you realize something.
- 19:59We have been seeking to
- 20:02have sex.
- 20:07What a place to. Stop that sentence. I'm sorry, kids.
- 20:11Um, we have been seeking to have sex
- 20:14separate private spaces for m men and
- 20:16women since pretty much ever.
- 20:19The instances where they were not. Were special. They
- 20:22were outliers, and in many cases, not the
- 20:25standard by which you wanted or
- 20:28desired to have things measured.
- 20:32In the instances where they were unisex bathroom,
- 20:35there was often special care taken to
- 20:38figure out still how to
- 20:41separate based on sex
- 20:43for the comfort and privacy
- 20:46of the different sexes.
- 20:50It seems we separated these spaces
- 20:53for the purpose of privacy. Men and women are different,
- 20:56and also for the purpose of safety.
- 21:00But there's been this push recently to try and
- 21:02retell a portion of bathroom
- 21:05history. And here on privy, we like bathroom
- 21:08history. We like it a lot, so leave
- 21:11it alone. And
- 21:14the reality is, sex
- 21:16separated bathrooms are
- 21:19the norm. And
- 21:22that brings us to a
- 21:25segment of who in
- 21:28the news
- 21:34now, while, again, we are trying. We try not to
- 21:37get political here on privy. This poo in
- 21:40the news is. And it is centered
- 21:43on bathroom things.
- 21:46A simple Google search today.
- 21:49The point you're listening to this, you have probably about five
- 21:52days left of this rainbow
- 21:55thing. Um, and a quick google search of
- 21:58title ix and bathrooms. It's going
- 22:00to bring a lot up these days. Um, title ix
- 22:03is the civil rights law Congress passed
- 22:06in 1972, which demands that
- 22:09schools that receive federal funding
- 22:12ban discrimination based on many
- 22:15basis. And at the time, one of
- 22:17those basis is that it could not discriminate on
- 22:20was sex at the
- 22:23time. This law did a lot to
- 22:26secure the rights of women and their
- 22:29access to safe public spaces,
- 22:32specifically in education settings, and was
- 22:35huge for the implementation of
- 22:38women's sports in
- 22:40education related facilities and
- 22:43entities. In 2020,
- 22:46Joe Biden was elected, and he seems bent
- 22:49on pandering to any demographic that will
- 22:52listen as he tries to get reelected this
- 22:54year. Again, not to get political, but I want
- 22:57to remind all of the
- 23:01elder Gen Z, millennial, and young
- 23:03Gen Xers who might still be staring down some student
- 23:06loan debt. We were promised it to
- 23:09be paid off, and it has not been.
- 23:14So here we are. And he seems
- 23:17bent on pandering to any demographic that
- 23:20will listen as he tries to get reelected this
- 23:23year. And the biggest thing he
- 23:26did recently, and by the time
- 23:29this comes out, he probably has done something even more
- 23:32wild. But he redefined
- 23:35sex, the term sex
- 23:38male female, uh,
- 23:41to include and also
- 23:43mean and encompass the term
- 23:46gender. The problem is, that's
- 23:49not how it works. This
- 23:52redefine will allow
- 23:56all genders, transgender students, to choose
- 23:59to use a bathroom based on their gender,
- 24:02rather than using a bathroom based on
- 24:05their sex. So you can have a
- 24:07man with male
- 24:09genitalia and male
- 24:12tendencies identify as
- 24:15a female in gender and use the girl's
- 24:18bathroom with your
- 24:20sisters, daughters, and the like. There's a couple
- 24:23problems here. We don't usually make
- 24:26laws to cater to people's feelings.
- 24:29Laws are generally based in facts,
- 24:31and they serve to protect people.
- 24:36They are often based in facts that can be proven and are not,
- 24:39uh, based on a person's feelings.
- 24:41Turns out it's really hard to prove
- 24:45how someone feels, or, better yet,
- 24:47whether or not they do feel a certain way.
- 24:51Second problem here is this change to title ix
- 24:54undoes a lot of the work that Title
- 24:57Ix originally sought to do,
- 24:59namely, create safe spaces for
- 25:02females and all
- 25:05races. But in the encompassing
- 25:09conversation, females in public
- 25:11life here in the states,
- 25:14our country is in huge debate over this. And by that,
- 25:17I mean a minority of the population, which is really loud,
- 25:20has bent the ear of the president. He wants their
- 25:23vote. That's why this goes through in August
- 25:263, unless we get a big screeching halt from the
- 25:29Supreme Court. It's interesting that this
- 25:32happens just months ahead of the election.
- 25:35Why didn't he do it on day one? Makes me wonder,
- 25:38you know, it makes me wonder why week one,
- 25:40just first week out of the gate, why Joe Biden didn't
- 25:43come in and do that. It's kind of interesting to me.
- 25:46But whether you agree or not, remove the
- 25:49politics here for a second. Set it aside.
- 25:53The reality is that this change
- 25:55allows any teenage boy to follow your
- 25:58daughter into the bathroom, and vice
- 26:01versa, any teenage girl to follow
- 26:04your son into the bathroom.
- 26:08And I think if we're
- 26:10honest in doing so, we are giving
- 26:13up the already established rights,
- 26:17young men and women, for the desired
- 26:20mental comforts of a
- 26:22vastly small population of kids that will be
- 26:25taken advantage of by a larger
- 26:27population of sick young people.
- 26:30But sometimes the
- 26:32news, like my underpants in the middle of
- 26:35privy summer, is messy.
- 26:42So why try and make this change?
- 26:45Well, you see, bathrooms because they are separated
- 26:47by sex and are in the cultural
- 26:50zeitgeist a lot nowadays. An
- 26:53article by NYU published in 2016
- 26:56states that sex separated bathrooms are
- 26:59largely due to sexism related to women as
- 27:02they grow in their social roles. It argues, as it
- 27:05quotes, enforced
- 27:07segregation erodes dignity of their very
- 27:10being. It is, right on its face,
- 27:13unequal. And trust me, this is
- 27:15just one of many articles pushing this.
- 27:18This idea that sex
- 27:21separated bathrooms exist to tear down
- 27:24women. But you know, what is a really
- 27:27modern idea? Like, really
- 27:30modern is gender.
- 27:33And as it would seem, and as it would happen,
- 27:36the idea of gender is probably less than 100
- 27:39years old now. We're not solving a gender debate. Here on
- 27:42privy. But we are going to weigh in on bathrooms
- 27:45because that's why we're here. We care about bathrooms.
- 27:48There's a podcast about bathrooms. That's what this
- 27:50is. And it
- 27:53seems that we separate bathrooms
- 27:55based on sex.
- 27:58The parts in our pants, if you will,
- 28:02not based on gender.
- 28:05The feelings that we have in our body and our
- 28:07brain, they argue your
- 28:10gender is how you feel. It's impossible
- 28:13to separate on gender. As
- 28:16a result, they go non gender
- 28:19bathrooms. And the problem is, according to them, we
- 28:22all have gender. We're just supposed to suppress it
- 28:25in favor and in favor of a
- 28:28gendered bathroom. That's
- 28:31why, if you are going to separate, if
- 28:34you're going to separate bathrooms at all, you
- 28:36separate based on sex. What's in the
- 28:39pants? What is your DNA?
- 28:42And the reason you do that is because,
- 28:45yes, there might be someone who is
- 28:48male sexually, and they say
- 28:51that they are female gender. But
- 28:54because this is a public space
- 28:57and you are entering into a private,
- 29:00public space, we separate based
- 29:03on your biology, what is in your
- 29:05pants. Feel whatever you like.
- 29:08Now, the other path forward
- 29:11here, if you're not going to separate,
- 29:14if you're not going to do sex, separated bathrooms
- 29:18and you want to work out your gender on your go, do that.
- 29:22The other option is single
- 29:25stall
- 29:28bathrooms. Just single stall bathrooms. One
- 29:30person. We don't care what type of person that
- 29:33is. But make all the bathrooms single stall. If
- 29:36that's your path forward,
- 29:40if you don't think like. And this is different than
- 29:42this idea of open stall, wherein all
- 29:45the men and women go in and then they split.
- 29:50Single stall. There's one room, one way
- 29:53in, one way out, one person.
- 29:56That's it. If you're gonna. If you're not gonna separate on
- 29:59sex, separated bathrooms, that's the path forward.
- 30:04If you don't think this is, if you don't think all of this stuff is a
- 30:06mess, go check out the last few winners of
- 30:09America's best restroom. And a lot of them have
- 30:12kudos because they have these all access
- 30:15bathrooms. But it's redundant because any
- 30:17gender can use any bathroom because it's a feeling,
- 30:20and not all feelings are good, real, or should be
- 30:23valued. Rather,
- 30:27as it seems we always have, bathrooms
- 30:30were, are,
- 30:32and should be continue to be separated by
- 30:35sex, male and female.
- 30:39That'd make them all single stall. That's the only path forward.
- 30:42Or, to quote the
- 30:44article from earlier, Carter's article,
- 30:50the alternative bathroom histories do not
- 30:53fail merely because they incorrectly
- 30:56explain how bathrooms first
- 30:59became separated by sex. They do not,
- 31:02err, because they seek to tell the stories of
- 31:04LGBTQ peoples. They
- 31:07fail because they exclude the
- 31:10histories and experiences of other vulnerable
- 31:13groups, specifically women and the
- 31:15poor. Those who push
- 31:18narratives that contort women's history, even
- 31:21when they do so in the interest of aiding transgender
- 31:24people, oppress women while
- 31:27supporting the rights of everyone to be treated fairly, women
- 31:30and supporters of women have the right to push back
- 31:33against those narratives, end quote. And so we
- 31:35do. June's almost
- 31:38over. We're almost on to some freedom.
- 31:48Well, guys, we hung in there. Uh,
- 31:51sorry, we got a little in the weeds this week.
- 31:54Um, we made
- 31:56it. This, uh, brings us to the end of another episode
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