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Double the Wo Mack Daddy · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with R Radio. Hello everyone, it is Ashley and it's
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Speaker 1: just me solo today, which is always kind of weird
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Speaker 1: for me because I can't talk to myself the way
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Speaker 1: that Ben does, and I mean that in a compliment
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Speaker 1: towards him. But I am going to go through some
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Speaker 1: Bachelor hot topics now, and then a couple of little
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Speaker 1: bullet pointed thoughts that I had while watching Brad's seasons
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Speaker 1: over again. And then after that we're going to be
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Speaker 1: having Michelle Money, Ashley Spivey, and Linny's Atoms joined the podcast,
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Speaker 1: and I'm really excited about those interviews. Let's start with
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Speaker 1: the first hot topic. It's not that hot, guys, gonna
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Speaker 1: be honest, it's more of an evergreen. But E Online
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Speaker 1: just did an article twelve Facts about the Bachelor Mansion.
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Speaker 1: Twelve secrets about the iconic home. It was built in
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Speaker 1: two thousand four and it what it's worth a reported
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Speaker 1: eight point seven five million, or at least it was
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Speaker 1: back in two thousand eight. It's nine thousand square feet
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Speaker 1: and it's built on ten acres of property. It's got
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Speaker 1: six bedrooms and an infinity pool, which you guys have
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Speaker 1: all seen the contractor and president of the Marshall Group,
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Speaker 1: Marshall Harden and his family built the house and he
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Speaker 1: also lives in the house still when The Bachelor isn't filming.
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Speaker 1: Marshall is a great guy. Love him so much. He
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Speaker 1: honestly like, if I'm passing by and I text him
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Speaker 1: and I'd be like, hey, can I jump in the
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Speaker 1: pool real quick, he'd let me. He does. It's he's
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Speaker 1: so sweet. The house is called it's as a name,
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Speaker 1: it's called Villa de la Vina Vina, and it's actually
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Speaker 1: available to rent for events like receptions, corporate events, proposals,
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Speaker 1: which I've seen a couple on Instagram. You can also
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Speaker 1: book Chris Harrison for it. And they've also done weddings
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Speaker 1: at the band that the mansion too. I can see
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Speaker 1: that being a pretty cool wedding venue. They record for
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Speaker 1: about forty two days per season, twice a year, So
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Speaker 1: at this time Marshall and the family pack up everything
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Speaker 1: they legit like take everything out of the house, curtains, TVs, pots, pants, clothes, everything.
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Speaker 1: It goes out in one day. They've got it down
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Speaker 1: to a science um and then it takes about two
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Speaker 1: weeks to put the whole house back together again. But
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Speaker 1: whatever you see in the house when you're watching the show,
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Speaker 1: it's not like that, um, when they're living in it.
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Speaker 1: It has a whole different set of furniture. It looks
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Speaker 1: more like a home than it does a set at
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Speaker 1: that point. Oh and another thing that they do is
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Speaker 1: they paint the walls different every season and they kind
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Speaker 1: of coordinated to whether it's a man in the house
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Speaker 1: or a woman in the house as the lead. And
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Speaker 1: then they sometimes painted back when they move back in.
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Speaker 1: He says that there's about forty four coats of paint
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Speaker 1: on each wall. And if you're wondering where the Hardened
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Speaker 1: family lives, they stay at a hotel about two or
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Speaker 1: three miles down. He does call it quite a hassle um.
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Speaker 1: And then the first night you think about the wet
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Speaker 1: the wet driver, right, Well, that is what by a
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Speaker 1: a production assistant who is the host every night. Wine.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why they care about listening. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: it has something to do with making the lighting look prettier,
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Speaker 1: the environment more lush. Contestants also have, like you guys
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Speaker 1: know from just listening to Ben and I on this podcast,
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Speaker 1: full access to the kitchen and you can cook whatever
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Speaker 1: we want. And the for those two ish weeks that
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Speaker 1: we were in the mansion filming, there's not like a
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Speaker 1: group dinners or buffets or anything like that. The feeding
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Speaker 1: yourself is pretty much on you, alright. So I hope
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Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed those little facts. Did Our next hot
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Speaker 1: topic has to do with where they are filming The
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Speaker 1: Bachelor right now. They're calling the Laquinta Resort a protective
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Speaker 1: bubble right now while filming clear season. They say that
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Speaker 1: the amount of crew there is less than a normal
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Speaker 1: season would have, and that of course no one is
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Speaker 1: allowed on the resort to go like in and out
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Speaker 1: as they please. Everybody's been wearing masks and keeping at
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Speaker 1: a social distance. I mean, I don't think the cast
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Speaker 1: is going to be staying at a social distance, but
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, And there's also a
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Speaker 1: medical team on site that is enforcing all the protocols
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Speaker 1: and administering the tests. There's overall an abundance of safety
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Speaker 1: and caution going on at the Quinta these days. And
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Speaker 1: what's nice is that the resort does have so much
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Speaker 1: acreage and a lot of the filming time is being
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Speaker 1: done outdoors. Next hot topic is Barb. Barb is running
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Speaker 1: her mouth again, and I say that in a nice way.
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Speaker 1: She's talking about Kelly Flannagan and whether she and her
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Speaker 1: son are going to be getting engaged anytime soon, but
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Speaker 1: she says they're taking a day by day. Engagement is
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Speaker 1: not on the radar right now, but when it is,
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Speaker 1: you'll hear it from her. Oh, Barb, so funny. Demi
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Speaker 1: Burnett says that Cassie Randolph refuses to tell her why
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Speaker 1: she broke up with Colton Underwood. I don't think it's
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Speaker 1: she broke up. I think like why the two of
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Speaker 1: them broke up? But that is the headline from Cosmo,
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Speaker 1: and I think this is just another demonstration of how
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Speaker 1: far Cassie is going to protect Colton in their relationship.
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Speaker 1: And all the drama last week about her being on
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Speaker 1: one of the Goat episodes. I think is just really
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Speaker 1: crazy because she has been very very private about all this,
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Speaker 1: and Demi says she's asked her fifty times but she
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Speaker 1: won't budge. Well, it's not all that Demi has been
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Speaker 1: saying this week about Colton and Cassie. She's also calling
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Speaker 1: him petty. She did this on the Chicks in the
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Speaker 1: Office podcast. She says that Cassie has been one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite cast members post show. She and I are
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Speaker 1: actually really good friends. I hung out with her recently.
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Speaker 1: This is where she asked about the whole this This
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Speaker 1: is where she asked about the breakup fifty times. She
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Speaker 1: said that she wouldn't talk about it. She said that
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Speaker 1: she has been so respectful of their privacy and that
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Speaker 1: they're not going to be public about anything about their breakup. Um. Randolph,
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Speaker 1: she says, has nothing bad to say. She even cried
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Speaker 1: at one point during their meeting. She said it was
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Speaker 1: really hard. Um. She cares about him so much, And
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Speaker 1: she said so even though I don't know what happened,
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Speaker 1: She's really loyal to her word on on that being
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Speaker 1: the privacy. So with the Instagram drama and Colton being
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Speaker 1: mad about the fact that she went on the Bachelor episode,
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Speaker 1: I've really think that's ridiculous because she didn't even say
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Speaker 1: anything about the relationship at all. She also said, I
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Speaker 1: think that he was just like being petty and trying
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Speaker 1: to get a reaction out of her. But I was
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Speaker 1: really proud of her for what she said. Um. She
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Speaker 1: said that I think that it was really cool that
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Speaker 1: she stood up for herself and that was the best
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Speaker 1: way she could have handled it. Our next hot topic
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Speaker 1: is pretty hot. So we all know if you follow
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Speaker 1: pop culture, that vander Pump Rules has a couple of
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Speaker 1: cast member spots available right now since Stacy and Kristen
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Speaker 1: will no longer be on the show, and Sina shat
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Speaker 1: is suggesting that her friend Jasmine Good, our bachelor, one
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Speaker 1: of our Bachelor lums, be a part of their cast. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so this all came about on Friday's episode of Shenanigans.
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Speaker 1: Jasmine said this at the suggestion, I don't know. I mean,
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Speaker 1: for me, it's one of those things where if it
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Speaker 1: makes sense of the time, sure, So maybe I would.
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Speaker 1: I think I would. I think I'd be great. She
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Speaker 1: goes on to say, one, I think it'd be great
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Speaker 1: because you guys do not have anybody that looks like
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Speaker 1: me on the show right now. So number one, you
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Speaker 1: do need some representation. So she says that she entertained
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Speaker 1: the idea and see what's up. She also said that quote,
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Speaker 1: I've met a lot of people on this show and
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Speaker 1: they just want to be this character. Maybe since I've
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Speaker 1: already been on a TV show. I don't care about
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Speaker 1: that part. To me, it's going to be very real
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Speaker 1: and authentic, and that's why I'm kind of scared if
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Speaker 1: I did do it, if I am to be honest. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So basically, she doesn't want to be playing a character.
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Speaker 1: She just wants to be herself. So we'll see if
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Speaker 1: this idea that they had on Shenanigans comes to be
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Speaker 1: our final hot topic leads into this week's overall discussion.
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Speaker 1: Brad wall Max says that he would not be the
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Speaker 1: Bachelor for the third time. I did love Brad as
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Speaker 1: a bachelor. I know he's very vanilla, He's a little
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Speaker 1: straight laced, but he is kind of the quintessential bachelor
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Speaker 1: to me as far as like the caricature of it
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Speaker 1: all goes. You know, But Brad is currently in a
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Speaker 1: relationship and not interested in putting himself through that. So
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Speaker 1: I watched, of course, last night, the Brad Goat episode.
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Speaker 1: Brad was the first season I ever watched, but it
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Speaker 1: was ten years ago, and I had some good laughs
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Speaker 1: and thoughts or rewatching it a decade later. Like when
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Speaker 1: you say a decade, it really changes things. It's like, Wow,
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Speaker 1: that is a damn period of time. My first laugh
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Speaker 1: was Chris Harrison calls him the sexiest Bachelor ever, and
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Speaker 1: I think he definitely was at that point leading up
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Speaker 1: to two thousand ten. I still think he's a very sexy,
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Speaker 1: good looking man. But you guys, I need to know
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Speaker 1: is he the sexiest bachelor ever? I'd say that there
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Speaker 1: have been some guys that are more my type sense,
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Speaker 1: and let me know what you think. Tweet at me
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Speaker 1: at Ashley Ico, because I'd love to know who you
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Speaker 1: guys think was the sexiest Bachelor ever and if we
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Speaker 1: need to retire that title for Brad. And then I
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Speaker 1: was also wondering was he ever on the show prior?
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Speaker 1: I don't think he was. I think Brad was one
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Speaker 1: of those guys that they saw it was a good looking,
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Speaker 1: hard working, successful Southerner and they kind of plucked him
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Speaker 1: out of obscurity, gave him the title of bachelor and
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Speaker 1: then did it twice. So that's interesting. I think it
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Speaker 1: was probably the last time we've had a lead until
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Speaker 1: Matt James, who was not part of the cast the
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Speaker 1: season or couple before. And then Chris Harrison also says
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of this that it was the most
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Speaker 1: shocking moment in Bachelor history when Brad doesn't choose two
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Speaker 1: girls or he doesn't choose from either of his final
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Speaker 1: two girls, And I was thinking, is that still the
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Speaker 1: most shocking moment in Bachelor history? It's up there, It's
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Speaker 1: definitely up there, I'd have to say, in my personal opinion,
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Speaker 1: it may be tied now with Peters season and just
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Speaker 1: all that went down in the Top three and post show,
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Speaker 1: you know section of that whole thing, because they're more
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Speaker 1: twist and turns and that then I've I can remember
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Speaker 1: seeing another thing that made me laugh while watching this
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Speaker 1: was baby doll dresses. These girls were getting. They were
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Speaker 1: walking out of the limo and baby doll dresses. They
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Speaker 1: were they were going to be proposed to in baby
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Speaker 1: doll dresses. It's a fashion item that I'm glad has
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Speaker 1: um cooled down a bit because they're cute every now
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Speaker 1: and then, but to use them as your, you know,
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Speaker 1: your formal attire, it doesn't work for me. And watching
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Speaker 1: Brad season the first one for the first time, I
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Speaker 1: had to think, at the end of it all, did
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Speaker 1: they make him choose between dumping the girls completely or
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Speaker 1: getting engaged to one of them? Because I'm really confused
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Speaker 1: still kind of why he didn't ask Diana just to
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Speaker 1: date a little bit, because he could have been like, look,
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Speaker 1: I really like you. I don't. I'm not there. I'm
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Speaker 1: not that point to propose. I don't even know if
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Speaker 1: I'm at that love point, but I'd like to see
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Speaker 1: how this goes in real life. But he didn't take that.
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Speaker 1: He didn't take that route. So I'm wondering, like, if
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Speaker 1: he really truly thought that it couldn't go anywhere with
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Speaker 1: with her and how he was feeling that entire time
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Speaker 1: throughout the entire process. Was he thinking, I don't think
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Speaker 1: there's a girl here that I can really see myself
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Speaker 1: with or did that decision come down to the last
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Speaker 1: day anyway? Questions that may always remain questions, but they weren't.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't really completely clear to me watching this Goat
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Speaker 1: episode back. I had to laugh when Chris Harrison had
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Speaker 1: Brad on the couch during after the final Rows and
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Speaker 1: he was talking about why Brad decided to buy the ring.
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Speaker 1: He's like, but you bought the ring. Why would you
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Speaker 1: buy ring if you weren't planning on for posing. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, Chris, this is this is back at a
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Speaker 1: time that we pretended that the lead bought the ring,
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Speaker 1: or that like the proposed the proposing person bought the ring.
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Speaker 1: I guess Neil Lane wasn't a sponsor back then, but
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Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty freaking funny. I've got a
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Speaker 1: couple more things that I want to mention before getting
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Speaker 1: Michelle money on the phone. The girls didn't know who
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Speaker 1: the bachelor was when they pulled up, and yet they
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Speaker 1: had all of these very witty things to say to Brad.
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Speaker 1: They show the limo pulling up and they're like, who
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Speaker 1: is it? Who is it? Oh it's Brad, Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: it's Brad. And yet they all had something to say
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Speaker 1: that was just perfectly tailored to Brad, like Chantel in
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Speaker 1: the slap. I'm like, okay, So they pretend to the
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Speaker 1: girls like there was a list of options and it
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Speaker 1: could be any of those men, And then did they
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Speaker 1: have to come up with entrances for each of the
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Speaker 1: possible bachelors. I don't know. This was silly. It seemed
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Speaker 1: a little produced to me. I also love the time
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Speaker 1: where Emily says, my mom says it's better to be
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Speaker 1: home alone than to be home and wish you were alone.
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Speaker 1: And I think that is a great phrase for girls
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Speaker 1: in a relationship these days to think about before you know,
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Speaker 1: getting a ring on it, before committing, before moving in together.
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Speaker 1: Just repeat that line to yourself a time or two.
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Speaker 1: It's better to be home alone than to be home
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Speaker 1: and wish you were alone. All right, Well, I I
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Speaker 1: obviously feel a little awkward talking to myself on this podcast,
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Speaker 1: so I'm going to get Michelle Money on the phone.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about Brad's season, her
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Speaker 1: role in it, and all the life changes that have
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Speaker 1: been thrown her way recently. Hey guys, today it is
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Speaker 1: just me, but I have some amazing guests from Brad's season,
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Speaker 1: including one of, in my personal opinion, the most iconic
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Speaker 1: Bachelor contestants. She's always kept it real, She's always had
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Speaker 1: the best beauty moments. And Michelle Money, you have always
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Speaker 1: had this amazing motherly, protective, encouraging quality when somebody needed
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Speaker 1: on the show. And I love you for being here. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. It's such a trip
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Speaker 1: that we're doing this ten years later, but here we are.
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Speaker 1: It is so crazy. So I do want to talk
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Speaker 1: about Brad's season, and I know that you kind of
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Speaker 1: had like some emotional baggage. Uh, just ten years later,
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Speaker 1: you were still experiencing it. And you're not alone because
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Speaker 1: so many people have been like I thought, I put
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Speaker 1: my season to bed, and now they're regurgitating it so
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Speaker 1: many years later. Yeah, it's this emotional like upheaval of
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Speaker 1: this thing that you thought. I know, for me, I
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Speaker 1: really thought I had dealt with it all, um, and
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Speaker 1: everyone's experiences different. Mine on the Bachelor just happened to
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Speaker 1: be like very edited and very um. I mean I
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Speaker 1: even had the executive reserves apologizing to me about how
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Speaker 1: overly edited I was. And so for me, it was like,
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Speaker 1: I mean, of all the shows I've done, the three
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Speaker 1: shows I've done, that's the one show I would never
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Speaker 1: want to relive again. I have a season like that too. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So I had it, um, But I do want to
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Speaker 1: talk to you about brial first. So of course, like
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Speaker 1: you know, all Bachelor Nation was, I mean, I like
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Speaker 1: to think that all Bachelnation just follow in your story
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Speaker 1: with Brielle. In March, she had a skateboarding accident. We
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Speaker 1: were praying, praying, praying, Um, do you feel comfortable kind
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Speaker 1: of like going through the stages totally okay, So like
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Speaker 1: from the accident, like, can you explain what happened for
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Speaker 1: those who didn't follow. Yeah, so um. On March twenty nine,
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Speaker 1: Brielle had decided that she wanted to go on a
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Speaker 1: little longboarding um trip by herself, which in my where
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Speaker 1: I live it's kind of slop, being lots of hills,
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Speaker 1: but she usually does her longboarding at her dad's house,
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Speaker 1: which is totally flat. So she's like, Mom, I want
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Speaker 1: to go get my longboarding and going to ride. I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: so listen, you gott to wear your helmet. She's like, no, Mom,
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Speaker 1: I don't need a helmet, Like I'm a professional long boarder.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not a professional word, and and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you need to wear your helmet. Well, she left by herself,
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Speaker 1: didn't put her helmet on, and her first run, which
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Speaker 1: was just right outside of her house, is down the
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Speaker 1: steep hill, and we think that she probably hit like
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Speaker 1: a manhole and and just crashed and just smacked her head.
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Speaker 1: So she landed on the right side of her head
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Speaker 1: and the force was so severe that it pushed her
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Speaker 1: brain to the left side. So there was bruising on
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Speaker 1: the left side and damage and its structured school on
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Speaker 1: the right. So she was because she was by herself
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Speaker 1: and she had just left. I about ten minutes passed,
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Speaker 1: and then I was like, I wonder what she's doing.
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Speaker 1: So I look out my window and I can kind
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Speaker 1: of see at the bottom of this hill like some
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Speaker 1: commotion going on. Well, turns out Brielle had been laying
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Speaker 1: there by herself for thirteen minutes before my neighbors who
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Speaker 1: happened to be on a walk I saw her laying
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Speaker 1: in the streets and called, and so I thought maybe
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Speaker 1: she had broken an ankle or twisted her wrist. Long
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Speaker 1: story short, I drive down there thinking I'm just gonna
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Speaker 1: take her right to the er, and she's unconscious and
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Speaker 1: laying in the street, blood everywhere. I mean, I'm freaking out.
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Speaker 1: The neighbors thank god UM found her in time, because
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Speaker 1: she wasn't getting oxygen to her brain and all the
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Speaker 1: stuff that happens with brain injuries. So we uh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I got her sent right over to Primary Children's Hospital,
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Speaker 1: where she was in a coma for ten days, and
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Speaker 1: she was she was in the hospital for a whole month, right, yeah, yep, Wow,
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Speaker 1: Um just how did you how is the support did
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Speaker 1: you feel support from your fans? I could not believe
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Speaker 1: how much support and love and attention was was had
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Speaker 1: over all of us. I really, I mean it's been
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Speaker 1: the one thing that I feel totally confident in is
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Speaker 1: the power of prayer. And think about that, because I mean,
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Speaker 1: after this, you really believed in it. I could not
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Speaker 1: believe the timing of like we had just I had
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Speaker 1: to do like a big group player on Sunday. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, it had been a week since and she
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Speaker 1: was still in a coma, and we did this group
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Speaker 1: prayer for four o'clock and that is when everything started,
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Speaker 1: um shifting for the better. And a few days later
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Speaker 1: they were able to take her out of a coma.
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Speaker 1: So it's just been amazing, I mean, all the love
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Speaker 1: that you and everyone from the Bachelor family gave. And
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Speaker 1: And a really cool story is Emily Maynard had shared
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Speaker 1: my story on her Instagram and one of her followers
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Speaker 1: was followed the story and made her her little boy
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Speaker 1: put this helmet on. Well, the next day he got
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Speaker 1: and he got hit by a car. He's four year
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Speaker 1: old got hit by a car, but he had his
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Speaker 1: helmet on and like Bril saved his life through Emily
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Speaker 1: Maynard's post like Bachelor. The Bachelor family is just like
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Speaker 1: such a powerhouse of like influence, and so it really
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Speaker 1: has I mean I get messages all the time. My
21:03
Speaker 1: child now wears their helmet because of your story. And um, so,
21:07
Speaker 1: I mean it just spread like wildfire and everyone was
21:10
Speaker 1: just so wonderful and supportive and and twenty six days
21:14
Speaker 1: after she was checked into the hospital, she was walking
21:17
Speaker 1: out and she is now like doing so awesome. I mean,
21:22
Speaker 1: she's still got a lot that she has to wait for.
21:26
Speaker 1: Just the brain takes about a year to heal, so
21:29
Speaker 1: she's still struggling with some short term memory um issues
21:33
Speaker 1: and some focusing issues and headaches and um. But like
21:38
Speaker 1: physically she's just like back to herself. There was a
21:41
Speaker 1: while where we thought she was going to be paralyzed
21:43
Speaker 1: on her left side of her body. Um, I mean
21:46
Speaker 1: there was so she had blood clots. There were so
21:49
Speaker 1: many things that could have just taken this down a
21:53
Speaker 1: totally different path. But I truly believe because of all
21:57
Speaker 1: the prayers and love, she is through of being and
22:00
Speaker 1: doing amazing and we believe she will have a full recovery.
22:03
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I'm I'm so so happy to hear this.
22:06
Speaker 1: We kind of all felt like we, well, I'm speaking
22:09
Speaker 1: on behalf of everyone, I should speak on behalf of me.
22:12
Speaker 1: I felt like, not only do I have a connection
22:14
Speaker 1: to you, but like, through watching Brielle and just you
22:17
Speaker 1: talk about her on the show, I feel like a
22:19
Speaker 1: lot of fans felt like they kind of knew her
22:22
Speaker 1: and watched her grow up too, Because now she's did
22:25
Speaker 1: you fifteen and a half? That is so crazy? And
22:29
Speaker 1: then on on Brad season she was five. I know
22:34
Speaker 1: what is going on. It's such a trip, And yeah,
22:36
Speaker 1: I do think you know, Brielle has been a huge
22:39
Speaker 1: part of you know, the dialogue that I've had throughout
22:42
Speaker 1: my experiences on each show. So yeah, it's it's I
22:46
Speaker 1: love that people feel like they are connected to her,
22:48
Speaker 1: and it's just made all the difference in her recovery.
22:51
Speaker 1: I truly believe that. Do you guys, do you feel
22:53
Speaker 1: like even more attached to her at the hip? Like
22:56
Speaker 1: do you feel like you're like, I'm obsessed and overly
22:58
Speaker 1: protective of you right now? Is I just have such
23:01
Speaker 1: a deeper compassion and understanding for anyone who has watched
23:05
Speaker 1: their child go through like a living hell and come
23:08
Speaker 1: out on the other side. You just it changes you forever.
23:13
Speaker 1: And I just for me, the biggest change that I
23:17
Speaker 1: have found is that I really am actively um parenting
23:22
Speaker 1: her first and being her friend's second, where before it
23:27
Speaker 1: was the reverse. And that is what got us into
23:29
Speaker 1: this accident, where like it was just like this wake
23:32
Speaker 1: up call, Like Michelle, you are her mother. Your job
23:35
Speaker 1: is to protect her. You should have taken that helmet
23:38
Speaker 1: and strapped her in it or else not let her go.
23:41
Speaker 1: And so for me, there's a lot of guilt that
23:44
Speaker 1: I wasn't a parent first. And so now as I
23:47
Speaker 1: move forward, you know, as I get the amazing opportunity
23:51
Speaker 1: to continue to parent her, I'm like, I'm showing up
23:54
Speaker 1: differently in her life and I have to, you know,
23:58
Speaker 1: as until she's eighteen years old or moves out or whatever,
24:00
Speaker 1: like you these are the rules. Like we've dialed things back,
24:03
Speaker 1: like less screen time, dialing in the curfew, like being
24:07
Speaker 1: overly protective about like who she's hanging out with and
24:10
Speaker 1: what she's um, what she's up to do. So, yeah,
24:14
Speaker 1: it's changed me in a lot of ways. With that's
24:16
Speaker 1: the biggest way. And you also have had the support
24:19
Speaker 1: of your boyfriend. Um is his name is Mike Weir.
24:25
Speaker 1: He's a professional golfer. Is weird? How's thats how you
24:27
Speaker 1: say it? Yeah? Yeah, you guys have been together for
24:30
Speaker 1: how long now? So we um we just celebrated our
24:34
Speaker 1: four year anniversary in May, and it's so funny because
24:42
Speaker 1: we just have had this beautiful, organic, slow progression of
24:46
Speaker 1: a relationship that has been like so healthy and like
24:49
Speaker 1: we never fight. We just had this very deep respect
24:53
Speaker 1: for each other. And but we've never wanted to get married.
24:57
Speaker 1: So on our anniversary in May, Mike got down on
25:01
Speaker 1: a knee and gave mir ring and asked me to
25:04
Speaker 1: be his forever girlfriend. So really okay, So now I
25:07
Speaker 1: need to know more about this and so easy a
25:08
Speaker 1: perfect match, your true love. You never wanted to get married?
25:11
Speaker 1: Is it because was he married in the past? He's
25:13
Speaker 1: been married before, I've been married before, And we almost
25:18
Speaker 1: just feel like things are so good and so beautiful
25:21
Speaker 1: that like we don't want to do anything to like
25:23
Speaker 1: mess anything up, and where we're I'm not that like
25:27
Speaker 1: marriage would mess it up, but like I feel like
25:29
Speaker 1: Mike is like a hell yes, but marriage is not
25:35
Speaker 1: hell yes. For either of us, and you both have
25:38
Speaker 1: children from prior relationships, so I think to some degree
25:42
Speaker 1: that affects it because you don't have together. Yeah, we
25:45
Speaker 1: don't want more kids. We have a beautiful relationship with
25:50
Speaker 1: each other's children that just feels really healthy and good
25:53
Speaker 1: and I just for now, this is what we're doing.
25:57
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, Like minute, but I wear my ring
26:01
Speaker 1: on my right hund. I'm like, I don't know, there's
26:04
Speaker 1: something about it. I'm like, I had it on the
26:06
Speaker 1: left hand for a while and I'm like, I just
26:08
Speaker 1: can't like, so I switched it over to the right.
26:11
Speaker 1: We just I don't know. When you've been through a
26:14
Speaker 1: marriage and you've been divorced and then you've seen a
26:17
Speaker 1: lot of divorce in your life, it's like there's I'm
26:20
Speaker 1: at this place where I'm like, I just don't know
26:23
Speaker 1: that that's what we want to do in our lives
26:26
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, So now I have to ask about
26:28
Speaker 1: the rings. Do you I like the thought of Jared
26:31
Speaker 1: wearing a ring because it says to other women I'm taken,
26:34
Speaker 1: and you know, vice versa with me. So do you
26:36
Speaker 1: guys have do you have guys coming up to you
26:38
Speaker 1: trying to hit on you. Does he have girls? You know,
26:42
Speaker 1: is it there's not that stay away symbol? Yeah, but
26:46
Speaker 1: it doesn't for us. That doesn't mean anything, you know,
26:48
Speaker 1: like I don't wear this every day and I don't
26:51
Speaker 1: need him to wear one, and like it is a
26:55
Speaker 1: really beautiful what it represents is so beautiful. Um, and
27:00
Speaker 1: I love having it on. I'm getting more and more
27:01
Speaker 1: used to it. But like if girls hit on Mike,
27:05
Speaker 1: it means nothing to me, Like yeah, like there's no
27:11
Speaker 1: intimidation or like concern or like we just have a
27:15
Speaker 1: really solid relationship. I don't know. I'm not happy for you.
27:22
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm really really happy for you. Um. So
27:26
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about Brad season. So from
27:29
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know what, Okay, So let's you. It's
27:33
Speaker 1: so funny because I Brad season was the first season
27:36
Speaker 1: I watched kind of, Um, I watched Ali's season and
27:41
Speaker 1: but I watched it in a really quick, like two
27:43
Speaker 1: day binge. So, but Brad season was the first one
27:45
Speaker 1: that I watched week by Week, which his first yours
27:50
Speaker 1: yours your time, so the second one, and I remember
27:54
Speaker 1: my like I try to transport myself back to the
27:57
Speaker 1: week by week, and I was like my sister, and
27:59
Speaker 1: I would be like, man, Michelle, like she's she can
28:03
Speaker 1: be so bad, she could be so annoying, but she's
28:06
Speaker 1: so pretty. I can't even hate her because she's so pretty.
28:08
Speaker 1: Like that was our thing. But I remembered that I
28:11
Speaker 1: was often annoyed by your actions. But that was only
28:14
Speaker 1: when I really transported myself back to that because you
28:19
Speaker 1: and I feel like myself, if I am to my
28:22
Speaker 1: own horn, have had our bad times on the show.
28:25
Speaker 1: The way that we were well you know, maybe we
28:29
Speaker 1: were a little mean, and maybe we were a little extra,
28:34
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we we are
28:37
Speaker 1: blessed to be thought of as loved characters. How do
28:41
Speaker 1: you feel you are able to just evolve like that? Well,
28:46
Speaker 1: I think for me a lot. I learned so much
28:49
Speaker 1: from from you know, just to rewind. Like right before
28:53
Speaker 1: I went on to film the show, I had like
28:55
Speaker 1: walked away from my religion that I had like grown
28:59
Speaker 1: up in the Mormon really and um, I had been divorced.
29:02
Speaker 1: I was just like kind of like a new single
29:04
Speaker 1: mom with like a new kind of sense of confidence
29:08
Speaker 1: and security, and like, um, I just was in this
29:12
Speaker 1: place in my life where I was really kind of
29:14
Speaker 1: stepping into my sexuality, my independence, um, my own free thinking,
29:22
Speaker 1: and so I kind of it was. It's so interesting
29:25
Speaker 1: when I look back at it now, how like, oh,
29:27
Speaker 1: I was just like I was just like trying to
29:29
Speaker 1: figure it out and so but that's not what everyone
29:32
Speaker 1: else knew, right and so um for me personally, when
29:38
Speaker 1: I watched some of the show, because I didn't watch
29:40
Speaker 1: all of it. When I watched my season, it was
29:43
Speaker 1: like a slap in the face of like, whoe girl,
29:47
Speaker 1: Like who do you think you are? Kind of a thing,
29:51
Speaker 1: because I really was like very overly confident and and
29:57
Speaker 1: and and arrogant in a lot of ways on But
30:01
Speaker 1: through that I learned a lot. I learned a lot
30:04
Speaker 1: about myself, and it's helped me to become a more
30:07
Speaker 1: well rounded version of myself. So then I went on
30:10
Speaker 1: to do Bachelor Pad and Bachelor in Paradise and taking
30:14
Speaker 1: the things that I've learned from that experience, which by
30:17
Speaker 1: the way, is the most like awful setting to put
30:22
Speaker 1: women in this like one man, all these women, Like
30:26
Speaker 1: your insecurities get thrown out in the most bizarre ways.
30:30
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, you're going to be the worst
30:32
Speaker 1: version of yourself, worst version, and then they're only showing
30:36
Speaker 1: the worst version, the worst of the worst. There's a
30:39
Speaker 1: lot of really soft and more compassionate sites me that
30:43
Speaker 1: we're not shown. But um, it did give me an
30:46
Speaker 1: opportunity as the years have gone by to kind of
30:49
Speaker 1: like reflect and really and really kind of look a
30:51
Speaker 1: little deeper at how I showed up then versus like
30:56
Speaker 1: how I'm showing up in my life now, and I've
30:58
Speaker 1: come a long way. I feel the exact same way.
31:02
Speaker 1: It really like pushed me into a state of growth.
31:06
Speaker 1: I'm forever thankful for it. Um you guys, you also,
31:10
Speaker 1: but like I also feel like people didn't quite understand
31:14
Speaker 1: your sense of humor a lot of times, like you
31:16
Speaker 1: were being snarky, like you thought that you were being
31:19
Speaker 1: like funny with a little attitude, where I also made
31:23
Speaker 1: that kind of mistake because you put a little music
31:26
Speaker 1: behind it, you clip that in during a certain scenario,
31:30
Speaker 1: and people don't see your like self aware sense of
31:36
Speaker 1: humor at all for sure. And that was something that
31:38
Speaker 1: I think I had to look at because I think
31:40
Speaker 1: sarcasm and a lot of times is like a defense
31:44
Speaker 1: mechanism and a lot of the things I were saying,
31:47
Speaker 1: we're sarcastic, but it was coming from this true place
31:50
Speaker 1: of insecurity where I was like I didn't quite have
31:53
Speaker 1: my uh my my footing on, like my my feelings
31:58
Speaker 1: and being able to full express what I was really feeling.
32:01
Speaker 1: And so instead of like letting myself express that in
32:05
Speaker 1: a healthy way, it kind of comes out through sarcasm.
32:09
Speaker 1: And so it was interesting for me to see like
32:11
Speaker 1: how sarcastic I was, and how that was actually a
32:15
Speaker 1: shield I would use to keep me from feeling pain
32:19
Speaker 1: or feeling insecurity. Right yeah, um, you also talk about
32:25
Speaker 1: on your Instagram this week about your insecurity is about
32:29
Speaker 1: this season re airring and the fact that you said that,
32:31
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about it earlier. You had
32:33
Speaker 1: so many feelings that you thought would be gone by now,
32:36
Speaker 1: but you don't. You said this thing that we're all
32:39
Speaker 1: villains and we're all heroes at the same time. I
32:41
Speaker 1: love it when you said, you're like, I mean, but
32:43
Speaker 1: I also have a loving heart. I'm lazy, but I'm
32:46
Speaker 1: a hard worker. It's this ten minute video she posted.
32:49
Speaker 1: You guys should go watch it. You're so eloquent and
32:52
Speaker 1: so like amazingly articulate. The fact that like that's not
32:54
Speaker 1: edited and you're just like rambling in the car is amazing.
32:58
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about how just the self
33:02
Speaker 1: discovery that you had recently, well it's funny, like it's
33:06
Speaker 1: embarrassing to even talk about because it's been ten years
33:09
Speaker 1: and it's like no one's talking about me, Like everyone's
33:12
Speaker 1: moved on, no one's no one's dwelling on it. But
33:14
Speaker 1: when I got the call that they were going to
33:16
Speaker 1: be re airing my season, it evoked this like uncomfortable
33:19
Speaker 1: anxiety that I have been living with that comes and
33:22
Speaker 1: goes like you know throughout the years, like it's very
33:26
Speaker 1: rare that I feel it now, but when it when
33:28
Speaker 1: it hits me, it like hits me, and it was
33:30
Speaker 1: just like why is this still? What is what am
33:33
Speaker 1: I not seeing? I mean, I've been through therapy, I've
33:35
Speaker 1: done all sorts of like healing modalities, I've done all
33:38
Speaker 1: the the work right around it, but the one thing
33:42
Speaker 1: I never did was own it, like own that I
33:48
Speaker 1: am a villain and that that's just part of like
33:52
Speaker 1: being human. And it was this really powerful connection I
33:56
Speaker 1: made through my recent like the veil kind of being
34:00
Speaker 1: lifted off me around racism because I've really been looking
34:04
Speaker 1: at my white privilege, and I've really had to look
34:08
Speaker 1: at which is It's funny now that I look back
34:10
Speaker 1: on my season, there was so much white privilege that
34:13
Speaker 1: I was scaring. I mean, I was like privileged all
34:15
Speaker 1: over the screen. It was just like, oh my god, Michelle,
34:18
Speaker 1: it's like more defined now as far as just like
34:21
Speaker 1: so anyway I've been, I've really been dissecting that and
34:24
Speaker 1: I really had to look a little bit deeper at
34:26
Speaker 1: like what what I'm not seeing about myself. And I
34:30
Speaker 1: read the book White Fragility, which was very same I
34:34
Speaker 1: did too. I had I had the author on the
34:36
Speaker 1: podcast Oh my gosh, stop it, I'm gonna listen. I
34:40
Speaker 1: just found it to be so like so refreshing to
34:44
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Okay, there's this thing about me, and
34:48
Speaker 1: I can't change it unless I look at it and
34:50
Speaker 1: own it. And that's kind of what I did with
34:52
Speaker 1: this villain title of being like, oh, I have to
34:55
Speaker 1: own it, and then I have to integrate it and
34:57
Speaker 1: I have to show up differently. And for whatever reason,
35:00
Speaker 1: it just like removed to the charge that was like
35:03
Speaker 1: landing in in my chest every time I would even
35:06
Speaker 1: think about my season on the Bachelor and It's funny
35:09
Speaker 1: that that was a few weeks ago, and I have
35:12
Speaker 1: felt so much more peace and like resolution and kind
35:16
Speaker 1: of like contentment around all of it ever since. I
35:19
Speaker 1: just like looked at it and owned it and then
35:21
Speaker 1: just was like, oh, it's just like part of my personality.
35:26
Speaker 1: And we have to own all of these aspects of
35:29
Speaker 1: who we are as human beings in order to really
35:32
Speaker 1: see each other as equal. Right, So what do you
35:36
Speaker 1: think about cancel culture? Oh gosh, because I feel like
35:40
Speaker 1: it rolls over It's like, well, you can admit that
35:43
Speaker 1: part of you is a little villainous, part of you
35:46
Speaker 1: is a little bit mean, but how but it doesn't
35:50
Speaker 1: admitting that doesn't go hand in hand with with cancel
35:53
Speaker 1: culture because in cancel culture you have to be pure
35:57
Speaker 1: and perfect. Yeah, I mean I struggle a out with
36:00
Speaker 1: it and the problem that I'm seeing, like it's just
36:03
Speaker 1: how hard it is now to to feel comfortable speaking
36:07
Speaker 1: your truth. And it's very dangerous when we start, um
36:13
Speaker 1: like being so black and white about things and not
36:18
Speaker 1: finding any room for grace or forgiveness or understanding, And
36:23
Speaker 1: it's scary and it makes people silent themselves, um silence themselves.
36:27
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's it's scary. How do you
36:30
Speaker 1: feel about it? I feel like I probably a worse
36:35
Speaker 1: host today than I would have then I probably was
36:39
Speaker 1: a year ago, because I feel like both Ben and
36:41
Speaker 1: I together censor ourselves a lot more, and we over
36:46
Speaker 1: analyze like every little sentence were about to say because
36:50
Speaker 1: we don't want it to be misconstrued. We know it's
36:52
Speaker 1: coming from a good place, but if you just have
36:55
Speaker 1: like the wrong word there, or you're struggling to articulate yourself,
37:01
Speaker 1: people will jump it and call it something it wasn't intended.
37:05
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, how you know. I was talking
37:10
Speaker 1: to my sister about gender inequality, and she brought up
37:13
Speaker 1: a really good point about how if you were to
37:15
Speaker 1: take a metal beam and bend it one direction, in
37:19
Speaker 1: order to get it back to equal, you kind of
37:23
Speaker 1: have to over extend it the other direction for it
37:26
Speaker 1: to kind of land right back to equal. And that's
37:29
Speaker 1: what I'm feeling is happening with with racism, with inequality,
37:34
Speaker 1: with social injustices, is like we have to have someone
37:38
Speaker 1: scream it in our face and make an over emphasize
37:43
Speaker 1: it for us to hopefully land back right around here.
37:48
Speaker 1: Because I do think there are people who are carelessly
37:51
Speaker 1: throwing out reckless and damaging and toxic conversations that should
37:57
Speaker 1: be canceled to some degree and should be people should
38:02
Speaker 1: be held accountable. My hope is just that like it
38:05
Speaker 1: kind of we use all of this as like a
38:07
Speaker 1: wake up call to just like eventually end up back
38:12
Speaker 1: in in the middle where we can just all show
38:15
Speaker 1: up as like kind of a better, more evolved version
38:18
Speaker 1: of ourselves with a little bit more insight into a
38:21
Speaker 1: lot of injustices and inequality going on in the world.
38:24
Speaker 1: I love that analogy. Honestly, I think you need your
38:27
Speaker 1: own talk show. I know there's too many podcasts out there,
38:30
Speaker 1: but perhaps you should start one because you like have
38:33
Speaker 1: a lot of oprah. I feel like you do. Okay,
38:39
Speaker 1: I want to talk about some more fun stuff regarding
38:41
Speaker 1: a broad season right after this break. Al right, guys,
38:54
Speaker 1: we are back with Michelle Money. Michelle, you culture the
38:58
Speaker 1: first villain? Were you truly because you were like the
39:02
Speaker 1: first season I watched, Were you really the first villain? Yeah?
39:05
Speaker 1: I think I really was. I mean I think that
39:07
Speaker 1: there was like a rated r who was on Ali's
39:09
Speaker 1: season who like but as far as like a female
39:12
Speaker 1: character there was also Vienna. Okay, yeah, but as far
39:17
Speaker 1: as like, I mean, yeah, I think I think I
39:21
Speaker 1: was one of the first. I don't know how to
39:24
Speaker 1: feel about that. I think you probably were, because even
39:28
Speaker 1: though I didn't watch the show, I feel like I
39:30
Speaker 1: would have known other names. Yeah, yeah, What the heck
39:34
Speaker 1: was up with your black eye that one day you
39:36
Speaker 1: woke up? You really never were able to figure out
39:39
Speaker 1: the black eye? Never? All I know is it was
39:42
Speaker 1: alcohol induced. Um, that's it. Like I had been drinking.
39:47
Speaker 1: I don't, and I woke up and did not remember
39:51
Speaker 1: much of the night clearly. Um, but I have no
39:54
Speaker 1: recollection on what on what happened? I have no clue.
39:57
Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? It's so weird. We all thought it
40:00
Speaker 1: was like makeup or a sort of production element, and
40:04
Speaker 1: it wasn't so weird. You use sexuality on Brad season
40:11
Speaker 1: and I like need tips, give a girl's tips out there?
40:15
Speaker 1: How do we just like embrace that confidence that you
40:18
Speaker 1: had and yeah, give me an Oprah here, give me
40:21
Speaker 1: a Well, I don't. I don't know that I'm necessarily
40:24
Speaker 1: um proud of of that. It. I mean, I do
40:29
Speaker 1: love that I am in touch with my sexuality. But
40:32
Speaker 1: I do think that um there was a comment that
40:35
Speaker 1: um Um Chantel had made where it's like, Michelle is
40:39
Speaker 1: a girl who's used to getting what she wants and
40:42
Speaker 1: she usually does, and that is true for how I
40:46
Speaker 1: was in my twenties, Like I was able to use
40:49
Speaker 1: my beauty and my sexuality to get me a head
40:52
Speaker 1: in life. And as I look back at it now,
40:54
Speaker 1: it's not something to be proud of when you're doing
40:57
Speaker 1: it with the intention of using your sexuality in in
41:01
Speaker 1: like a very authentic sexual moment um. Then I think
41:05
Speaker 1: it's powerful when you're using it in order to get
41:09
Speaker 1: ahead or get um attention that I don't know, like
41:15
Speaker 1: I'm not super proud of the way I showed up
41:19
Speaker 1: that way sexually, to be honest, Okay, but you did
41:22
Speaker 1: say a thing, but go ahead, yes, I will say.
41:25
Speaker 1: Confidence is such an important factor in and be in
41:28
Speaker 1: becoming more sexual and owning your sexuality is feeling confident
41:33
Speaker 1: in your own skin, which goes back to accepting all
41:36
Speaker 1: aspects of who you are, which I think is one
41:39
Speaker 1: thing and I've learned because of The Bachelor, Like I
41:41
Speaker 1: was able to take kind of the pain of what
41:42
Speaker 1: I went through and turn it into power in a
41:45
Speaker 1: really authentic way and not a phony look at me,
41:50
Speaker 1: I'm sexy way. Does that make sense? Like a lot
41:53
Speaker 1: of that transformation came from being on the show totally, totally.
41:58
Speaker 1: When you watch moments back, like the time you got
42:01
Speaker 1: Brad in the room, said you have some big decisions
42:04
Speaker 1: to make. No talking, no talking, no talking, we got
42:07
Speaker 1: to send some girls home. Now, what do you feel?
42:11
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of amazing. At the same time, well,
42:19
Speaker 1: what people didn't see was that they had the whole
42:23
Speaker 1: They had me walk into the room. And when I
42:26
Speaker 1: went and talked to them and told him I wanted
42:27
Speaker 1: to have this conversation, there were two chairs there. When
42:30
Speaker 1: I walked in, both of the chairs were gone and
42:32
Speaker 1: there was just a bed, and I was like no, no, no,
42:35
Speaker 1: no no. So I turned around and left, and I'm
42:38
Speaker 1: like I'm not doing that, you know. So they're like, okay, okay,
42:41
Speaker 1: we we set it back up with chairs. And I
42:43
Speaker 1: walk in there just one chair and he's sitting in
42:45
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god. I was drunk enough
42:49
Speaker 1: to be like our listen, Like I took a lot
42:51
Speaker 1: of like yeah, producing and like gearing me up and
42:56
Speaker 1: pouring the alcohol and I'm just a ham. I don't know.
43:00
Speaker 1: It's cringe. It's all very cringe. E it's so funny. Um.
43:04
Speaker 1: I also need to talk to you about the fact
43:07
Speaker 1: that you were one of the women that I love
43:09
Speaker 1: the first night because you didn't think that Brad should
43:13
Speaker 1: be the most hated man in America. I was wondering
43:17
Speaker 1: why so many people were giving him ship, because make
43:20
Speaker 1: sure the other two women that he left at you
43:22
Speaker 1: know the quote Altar the season before, we're wonderful women.
43:25
Speaker 1: But if he wasn't feeling that strongly towards him, why
43:29
Speaker 1: would we have wanted him to pick somebody temporarily? Yeah. Now,
43:33
Speaker 1: I love when people do the hard thing, the right thing,
43:38
Speaker 1: even when it's hard, you know. And that is such
43:40
Speaker 1: a sign of character for me that he did the
43:44
Speaker 1: right thing even when it was hard, and so I
43:46
Speaker 1: found that to be incredibly sexy and something to applaud.
43:51
Speaker 1: Love it, Love it. My last question for you has
43:54
Speaker 1: to do with our dear friend Claire Crawley. Oh so
43:58
Speaker 1: so amazing. I really would I think of you guys,
44:00
Speaker 1: I think of you together. Maybe it's because the time
44:03
Speaker 1: you were on the show. Maybe it's because of your
44:04
Speaker 1: friendship but you guys both just like alude strong sexy
44:08
Speaker 1: women who like don't deal with any crap. But I
44:12
Speaker 1: need to know about how you feel about the age
44:16
Speaker 1: range of the guys that we saw were announced last week.
44:18
Speaker 1: I think it's perfect. I think it's a great spectrum
44:21
Speaker 1: of men. I think Claire really truly does normally date
44:25
Speaker 1: younger guys. Right, I'm actually on board with they added
44:30
Speaker 1: more men, they added some older men. I think it's
44:32
Speaker 1: gonna I think it's I think we're gonna be good.
44:35
Speaker 1: Was there anyone amongst those those those guys that you
44:39
Speaker 1: looked at and said that could be one that could
44:42
Speaker 1: be him? I don't remember anyone's names. I'd have to
44:45
Speaker 1: pull it up and look again. Okay, but there are
44:49
Speaker 1: I mean there's a few that are like yes, and
44:50
Speaker 1: there's a few that are just like, that's a note.
44:52
Speaker 1: We're gonna be just like, that's just gonna have to
44:54
Speaker 1: be a note. And I don't remember any names. Well,
44:57
Speaker 1: if we had more time with you, I would deferent
45:00
Speaker 1: only be going through the list and having some good
45:01
Speaker 1: girl talk. But right now we will. Um. We need
45:05
Speaker 1: to get Ashley Spivey on the phone. Michelle. It's so
45:08
Speaker 1: wonderful to catch up with you, and thank you for
45:09
Speaker 1: all your wisdom. You're wonderful. I love you. I appreciate
45:13
Speaker 1: it very much. Tell Spivey Hi, Okay, love you bye,
45:16
Speaker 1: love you bye. Alright, guys, we are back with Ashley Spivy.
45:31
Speaker 1: Hello Ashley, Hi, Ashley, did you get to see this
45:35
Speaker 1: episode Brad's Double Header? I haven't. Okay, so I'm gonna
45:40
Speaker 1: be honest, You're not really in it. I did not
45:44
Speaker 1: think I was going to be um. Every time someone
45:47
Speaker 1: would tell me it was coming on, I was just like,
45:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I made it. So I think like eleventh Place,
45:54
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to be on a ton um. Besides,
45:59
Speaker 1: like maybe first impression Rose, maybe like the two on one,
46:04
Speaker 1: I got the first impression Rose. Yeah, and they didn't
46:08
Speaker 1: show what I was wondering. Um when it was very
46:14
Speaker 1: they were talking. There was the first night you know
46:16
Speaker 1: that Chantel slaps him. Um. He's talking to Emily and Michelle.
46:19
Speaker 1: I'm thinking who got the first impression Roles? Was it Emily?
46:23
Speaker 1: Was it Chantel? It must have been Chantel, It was you?
46:26
Speaker 1: It was me and you only stuck around to the
46:29
Speaker 1: eleventh Place. What do you think happened there. I think
46:34
Speaker 1: that I started off strong, and then the more I
46:39
Speaker 1: hung out with Brad, the more it was obvious the
46:43
Speaker 1: producers that he just was really not my type. Um
46:48
Speaker 1: going into it, I thought it was going to be
46:51
Speaker 1: Chris Lambdon, who was a little more kind of like
46:55
Speaker 1: college frat guy, party boy, and that Brad was like
47:01
Speaker 1: my dad. Brad does have a very steady energy about him. Yes,
47:08
Speaker 1: at the time, you're into frad boys, though unfortunately, I
47:13
Speaker 1: mean luckily I got out of that phase. But at
47:17
Speaker 1: the time, not that I wasn't ready to settle down.
47:21
Speaker 1: I was definitely looking for like a great love in
47:23
Speaker 1: my life. I just don't know if Brad was that
47:27
Speaker 1: for me, and I think him and I just would
47:29
Speaker 1: not have connected on that level at all. He would
47:32
Speaker 1: have been a little boring for me. Gotcha, got youa yeah.
47:34
Speaker 1: But so, even though you're not a huge name that
47:38
Speaker 1: we connect back to Brad season, we you are still
47:42
Speaker 1: a huge name in the franchise when it comes to
47:44
Speaker 1: those hardcore fans, like when I think of Ashley's Boby,
47:47
Speaker 1: I think that you are an advocate for those and
47:51
Speaker 1: things that we don't normally see represented enough on the show.
47:55
Speaker 1: You've developed a great relationship with Reality Steve and you
47:57
Speaker 1: do podcasts with him a lot. I want to talk
47:59
Speaker 1: about how you guys formed that bond. Um. So, I
48:04
Speaker 1: think it kind of started even just being an advocate
48:08
Speaker 1: for people on the show after my season, UM, when
48:12
Speaker 1: Ashley Rosenbaum, who was my best friend in the house,
48:16
Speaker 1: I started my own blog, UM called say No to Cosmo,
48:20
Speaker 1: where I would do recaps of the shows or the episodes,
48:25
Speaker 1: and I would kind of like peel back the curtain
48:27
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I would do um interviews with
48:30
Speaker 1: contestants where if they weren't given a lot of screen time,
48:33
Speaker 1: you would kind of get to know them better and
48:35
Speaker 1: like the causes that were important to them and things
48:37
Speaker 1: like that, and I would do them kind of in
48:40
Speaker 1: meme form that they were funny but also like they
48:44
Speaker 1: had some substance to them, I guess. Um. And then
48:47
Speaker 1: ABC actually hired me because back in the days, they
48:51
Speaker 1: would feature people's or contestants recaps on their website. I
48:56
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember that vaguely, yeah, Um. And
49:00
Speaker 1: then this is probably where like my issues with production started.
49:04
Speaker 1: But I found out that they were paying me way
49:07
Speaker 1: less than a male counter part. It was Michael Sagliano
49:12
Speaker 1: and I I mean Michael Saglano told told me this
49:16
Speaker 1: is like how I know this? Um, But so I
49:19
Speaker 1: stopped doing it. I just put I kept him on
49:21
Speaker 1: my website and was just like, all right, screw you, ABC,
49:25
Speaker 1: And UM, yeah. So I think that's when I kind
49:29
Speaker 1: of like I love the show. Don't get me wrong. Um,
49:34
Speaker 1: they offered me a great opportunity. I wouldn't have this
49:38
Speaker 1: platform if it wasn't for them. I got a great
49:41
Speaker 1: edit on the show. I'm still friends with producers, UM,
49:45
Speaker 1: but I think there are ways that they can do better.
49:48
Speaker 1: And so I met Reality Steve at a charity event
49:52
Speaker 1: and he was really good friends with Michelle Money at
49:55
Speaker 1: that time. That's how I kind of started talking to him,
49:59
Speaker 1: and I really he's not as horrible kind of as
50:02
Speaker 1: everyone thinks whatever you get off the show, um, And
50:06
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, I'd like to think that
50:08
Speaker 1: maybe I've kind of helped him be better in some
50:12
Speaker 1: of his recaps of the show and the way that
50:14
Speaker 1: he um chooses to cover people and things like that. So,
50:21
Speaker 1: I mean, this is something he'll even say. UM. I
50:25
Speaker 1: think sometimes he would be a little misogynistic and his
50:29
Speaker 1: recaps um or just a little too overly harsh and
50:34
Speaker 1: um snarky. And I think sometimes he would get into
50:41
Speaker 1: areas of people's lives that he didn't necessarily have to
50:46
Speaker 1: record on. So now I think he sees contestants more
50:51
Speaker 1: as humans rather than dollar signs for his sight. So um,
50:58
Speaker 1: But the podcast I do with him, it's mainly relationship
51:02
Speaker 1: advice or just general advice where people just feel really
51:07
Speaker 1: stuck in a situation, and then he'll give his opinion,
51:10
Speaker 1: I'll give my opinion. We don't always agree, but a
51:14
Speaker 1: lot of times we play off each other well. So
51:16
Speaker 1: I think our friendship and just doing that podcast together
51:20
Speaker 1: has changed him, Um, for the for the good. I
51:26
Speaker 1: don't know you recently did a podcast with him, I
51:30
Speaker 1: think this week about Claire's eliminated men. I'm a little
51:34
Speaker 1: confused about this, but I want you to educate me
51:37
Speaker 1: on it because from what I gather, the forty two
51:41
Speaker 1: men that were released last week, not all of them
51:44
Speaker 1: are going to hit the screen. No. Um, I'm not
51:48
Speaker 1: even sure in terms of how many were eliminated. Um,
51:53
Speaker 1: it looks like there were about fifty fifty older guys
51:58
Speaker 1: and fifty of the younger guys eyes Um, that actually
52:02
Speaker 1: got eliminated, not by Claire herself or by yeah. Um.
52:09
Speaker 1: There was one person who was let go because he
52:13
Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID. So just one of those guys
52:17
Speaker 1: was a positive test. Interesting, okay, but they're saying that
52:22
Speaker 1: he was not put back on that plane with COVID,
52:25
Speaker 1: so a lot of people were freaking out. No exactly,
52:31
Speaker 1: that's I mean the way the guy his name is Alex,
52:35
Speaker 1: the way he um kind of portrayed it was he's
52:38
Speaker 1: in a limo error a car and he says COVID
52:42
Speaker 1: to Alex zero, and then you see him next on
52:45
Speaker 1: a plane and he has his mass down, and I
52:48
Speaker 1: mean I automatically was just like, what are you doing?
52:52
Speaker 1: Don't so good? Okay, al right, so interesting stuff. We
52:57
Speaker 1: probably won't be seeing all forty two guys. Bet and
53:00
Speaker 1: I were very overwhelmed. Were like, how in the world
53:02
Speaker 1: do you date forty two people? Keep track of their names,
53:06
Speaker 1: decide who you like, so it'll be more of a
53:09
Speaker 1: normal size cast, I'm assuming, yes, I and I thought
53:13
Speaker 1: Brad had one of the biggest opening night cast. How
53:17
Speaker 1: much was that? I think he had thirty We had
53:20
Speaker 1: thirty two on Chris season. But I think it meant
53:22
Speaker 1: that he eliminated more than usual a night one because
53:25
Speaker 1: I think he took it down to twenty two. So no,
53:28
Speaker 1: maybe not. Yeah, alright, So you also, UM, you you
53:34
Speaker 1: have been such a commentator on the show, which is
53:37
Speaker 1: why I think you've stayed relevant. Um, You've been somebody
53:40
Speaker 1: who's just been like an outspoken advocate for how the
53:42
Speaker 1: show can evolve. UM, whether it's racial, more racially inclusive,
53:46
Speaker 1: or more inclusive about having queer people on the show.
53:50
Speaker 1: How do you want to see the franchise look in
53:53
Speaker 1: five years and how do you think it will actually look? UM.
53:58
Speaker 1: So I actually just read this really great book UM
54:02
Speaker 1: called One to Watch. I don't know if you've heard
54:04
Speaker 1: about it, but it's by UM an author named Kate
54:08
Speaker 1: Stam in London, and she imagines this bachelorette who is
54:14
Speaker 1: a plus size blogger and they pick her as a
54:19
Speaker 1: bachelorette because they really do want to move in a
54:22
Speaker 1: different direction. And then she has a very diverse cast
54:27
Speaker 1: of men. It even includes someone who UM is kind
54:31
Speaker 1: of considered a sexual UM. I think what I would
54:36
Speaker 1: like to say, I would like to see more size
54:38
Speaker 1: inclusion in terms of the show, I think there's just
54:42
Speaker 1: a lot of thin women and fit men, and I
54:46
Speaker 1: think it should look more like America. UM. And I
54:52
Speaker 1: I know that there's been a huge push for production
54:56
Speaker 1: to really take into consideration what the Bachelor diversity campaign
55:00
Speaker 1: has been pushing for. UM. I thought that with Claire's men,
55:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll have to check even with the men
55:08
Speaker 1: that they did eliminate, but it looked like some good
55:11
Speaker 1: stats in terms of diversity. And I love that they
55:17
Speaker 1: picked Matt James for The Bachelor. I just hope that
55:19
Speaker 1: the women they cast aren't just skinny white women. I
55:24
Speaker 1: would I would like for there to be diversity and
55:26
Speaker 1: size inclusion there as well. UM. And one day I
55:30
Speaker 1: would love to have a gay Bachelor, gay Bachelor like I.
55:35
Speaker 1: I just think it's time to evolve. UM. We've had
55:39
Speaker 1: how many seasons of mainly white characters and casts on
55:44
Speaker 1: the show, and it would just be nice to have
55:47
Speaker 1: something different totally. On a more personal note, you and
55:51
Speaker 1: your husband are your well, you are pregnant. You guys
55:55
Speaker 1: are having a baby. You're having a boy. Congratulated shins.
56:00
Speaker 1: What do you do? I'm do February first, Okay, so
56:05
Speaker 1: are you you're just going as a second trimester. Yes, okay,
56:08
Speaker 1: Well how was that first one on you? Um? So
56:13
Speaker 1: I actually did not know I was pregnant for the
56:15
Speaker 1: first two months, so easy. Yeah. So kind of what
56:22
Speaker 1: had happened was, Um, we've been trying for a year
56:26
Speaker 1: to get pregnant after I had a miscarriage last year.
56:29
Speaker 1: I remember we talked about that and um, we had
56:34
Speaker 1: kind of just given up. My I U I cycle
56:37
Speaker 1: was canceled because of COVID and things were pretty bad
56:42
Speaker 1: here in New York. So my husband and I were
56:44
Speaker 1: just like, this is not the time to try. Let's
56:47
Speaker 1: just take it off the table. Um, let's maybe go
56:50
Speaker 1: in for an IVF appointment. So we had scheduled an
56:55
Speaker 1: IVF appointment on a Thursday. My sister came to see
56:59
Speaker 1: me on a Tuesday and I was just telling her
57:02
Speaker 1: how I had felt kind of depressed. I couldn't even
57:06
Speaker 1: enjoy a cup of coffee in the morning, and She's like,
57:10
Speaker 1: have you taken a pregnancy test? So, sure enough, I
57:14
Speaker 1: take a pregnancy test that Wednesday, find out I'm pregnant
57:18
Speaker 1: and I This all happened one day before we were
57:22
Speaker 1: supposed to go in from my IVF. Oh my goodness,
57:24
Speaker 1: that's so excellent. That's amazing. I'm so happy for you.
57:29
Speaker 1: Thank you. I mean, it is a crazy story. Is amazing.
57:36
Speaker 1: Isn't it just crazy the way that they say sometimes
57:40
Speaker 1: you just have to take a little relaxation, and it
57:43
Speaker 1: happens when you're not really trying, when you just relax. Um.
57:50
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't say I was relaxed, okay, taking
57:54
Speaker 1: a pause. I wasn't even thinking about That's what I'm mean. Okay. So,
58:03
Speaker 1: and it's funny because now when I look back all
58:05
Speaker 1: all the symptoms, I mean, I'm an adult, and I
58:08
Speaker 1: couldn't even figure out that I was pregnant. Like it's
58:12
Speaker 1: just completely like whenever my head, I was just thinking
58:15
Speaker 1: about everything else that was going wrong. Girl. I did
58:19
Speaker 1: another podcast while my other podcast, I Don't Get It,
58:22
Speaker 1: and we talked to you four women who didn't know
58:26
Speaker 1: they are pregnant until they were delivering. So I understand
58:30
Speaker 1: how you can go two months nine months up still
58:34
Speaker 1: a littit more of a challenging thought. All right, Well,
58:39
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. We hope that
58:42
Speaker 1: you enjoy watching your the episode tonight. Even though you
58:46
Speaker 1: may not be a huge part of it. Where can
58:48
Speaker 1: people check you out? Um? Online Twitter, You're very active there,
58:53
Speaker 1: tell us your deeds. So on Instagram and Twitter, it's
58:58
Speaker 1: just at Ashley Spivey. Um. I also have a book
59:01
Speaker 1: club on Instagram and Facebook. Um, and that's just Spivey's
59:06
Speaker 1: book Club. They're pretty easy to find. That's pretty much
59:10
Speaker 1: everywhere you'll find me, Thanks Ashley. Moving away from Brad season,
59:27
Speaker 1: our next guest is Lanise Adams, and you guys may
59:31
Speaker 1: remember watching her a couple of weeks ago when they
59:34
Speaker 1: re aired Alex Michelle's first season of the Bachelor. She
59:38
Speaker 1: was the first kiss of all Bachelor history. Hay, Lenise, Hi,
59:46
Speaker 1: athletes are you? I'm good? How are you good? Good? Lenise?
59:51
Speaker 1: When you were experiencing that kiss, were you like this
59:55
Speaker 1: is about to make history. I did not think that
1:00:01
Speaker 1: way at all. Like it wasn't until the show aired
1:00:04
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh my god, because people were like,
1:00:08
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she kissed him. It's like people kind
1:00:12
Speaker 1: of I don't know. People didn't know how to feel
1:00:15
Speaker 1: about it, Like they were actually like not happy that
1:00:19
Speaker 1: I so called it kissed on the first date. So
1:00:22
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, some bad, some good, I
1:00:24
Speaker 1: liked the kiss, but I got a lot of crap
1:00:27
Speaker 1: for it. How funny is it that you got crap
1:00:31
Speaker 1: for kissing on the first date and now people kissed
1:00:35
Speaker 1: during the first conversation on the show? I know, I mean,
1:00:40
Speaker 1: you know what, I think people were really just in
1:00:43
Speaker 1: their bag, like too much, Like so what so I
1:00:46
Speaker 1: kissed a guy we were on like a romantic gondola thing,
1:00:51
Speaker 1: Like why why did me crap about that? You know,
1:00:57
Speaker 1: you got a lot of You've got a lot of
1:01:00
Speaker 1: backlash and this is the saddest, most horrible thing for
1:01:04
Speaker 1: being a black woman dating a white man and kissing
1:01:07
Speaker 1: him on TV. And this is back in two thousand two.
1:01:11
Speaker 1: This effect, this is before the you know, this is
1:01:13
Speaker 1: before social media. Yeah, and it was. It was harsh
1:01:17
Speaker 1: for you. So can you tell us how it affected
1:01:21
Speaker 1: just your your whole being because I think I think
1:01:25
Speaker 1: i'm reading this that you like really fell into a
1:01:28
Speaker 1: depression from it. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's like
1:01:32
Speaker 1: it's been quite some time now, so thankfully, you know,
1:01:36
Speaker 1: I just like I moved so far past it that
1:01:39
Speaker 1: it feels like a distant memory. But as I'm talking
1:01:41
Speaker 1: about it and sharing my story, because most people didn't know.
1:01:45
Speaker 1: The only people who really knew were my family because
1:01:49
Speaker 1: they had to take care of me. But yeah, I
1:01:52
Speaker 1: went into a really deep depression. Um. It was like
1:01:58
Speaker 1: it was sort of the perfect form of UM dealing with,
1:02:03
Speaker 1: you know, instant fame that I wasn't expecting because I
1:02:07
Speaker 1: think it was like we had twenty million people watching
1:02:10
Speaker 1: or something, so you know, but but we didn't expect it.
1:02:15
Speaker 1: So it was that mixed along with getting crap about
1:02:20
Speaker 1: kissing on the first date and then finding my picture
1:02:24
Speaker 1: on a white supremacist web site with me kissing alex
1:02:30
Speaker 1: Um talking about how that was just terrible, and then
1:02:34
Speaker 1: reading because even though social media wasn't around, we did
1:02:38
Speaker 1: have blog blogs, and the girls and I would be
1:02:42
Speaker 1: on the blogs just to see what was going on,
1:02:44
Speaker 1: and most stuff was positive, but the negative stuff really
1:02:49
Speaker 1: got to me and I just like I started like
1:02:54
Speaker 1: having anxiety and I didn't want to leave my house
1:02:58
Speaker 1: and um, and then I kind of it into a
1:03:00
Speaker 1: depression because I just no longer like I thought I
1:03:04
Speaker 1: knew who I was, I thought I knew what life
1:03:07
Speaker 1: was about. I thought I had everything figured out because
1:03:10
Speaker 1: being from l A, we don't experience what other black
1:03:16
Speaker 1: people have had to experience outside. So I was just
1:03:19
Speaker 1: so naive and yeah, I went through a deep depression. Okay,
1:03:23
Speaker 1: you talk about l A where you grew up, being
1:03:25
Speaker 1: a melting pot, a mixing bowl, and you're just saying
1:03:28
Speaker 1: that you've never experienced racism like that until you you
1:03:34
Speaker 1: were on The Bachelor on more of a national platform.
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Speaker 1: How do you How do you feel like the show
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Speaker 1: has The show is evolved, but also the audience has
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Speaker 1: as they include more people of color into the cast
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Speaker 1: and now we have our first black lead, Matt Jane. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I never thought that the show was
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Speaker 1: the problem. Like, I actually adore the producers at The Bachelor,
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Speaker 1: and I had a great time and they've always sort
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Speaker 1: of taken care of me. Like, I never thought that
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Speaker 1: the show was the issue. I think that there's just
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Speaker 1: some people, um that just had had come to accept
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Speaker 1: interracial dating. I'm glad that society has the the ship.
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Speaker 1: It's there's been a big ship, and I'm so happy
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Speaker 1: about that. Um. I do think that that The Bachelor
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Speaker 1: plays a great role in being able to show um
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Speaker 1: interracial dating across America and the world, because I really
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Speaker 1: think that, you know, the more we all sort of
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Speaker 1: love each other, the better we can enjoy the world.
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Speaker 1: The world's like such a beautiful place, Like, let's not
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Speaker 1: spend our time hating over silly stuff. You know, completely
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Speaker 1: completely agree. I remember when you were on the show
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago doing the interview with Chris Harrison.
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Speaker 1: He didn't ask you the state of your personal life. Now,
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Speaker 1: how are you doing what almost twenty years after? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know how the interview was much longer than what
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Speaker 1: they show. Um, But but yeah, so what am I
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Speaker 1: doing now now? I'm I'm so happy to be back
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Speaker 1: acting like That's what I was doing before The Bachelor,
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Speaker 1: but I ended up taking a long break just because
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Speaker 1: you can't really um do acting if you don't have
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Speaker 1: your stuff together. So um, now I'm back acting. Like.
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Speaker 1: I hope that your fans and Bachelor Nations checks out
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Speaker 1: my latest short film. It's called Heaven's Revenge and so
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Speaker 1: I play a woman who gets revenge on a guy
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Speaker 1: for breaking her heart. She gets the ultimate revenge and
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Speaker 1: that was really fun to play. And people can find
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Speaker 1: that at www. Dot Heaven's Revenge dot com. Amazing anything
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Speaker 1: else you'd like to add? Where we can? Where can
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Speaker 1: we find you here more from you because you do
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Speaker 1: talk a lot about self discovery and getting over self medicating.
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Speaker 1: So if that is something that people are dealing with
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Speaker 1: and wanting to get better at, where can they reach
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Speaker 1: out to you? Yeah, you can find me on I'm
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Speaker 1: on my Instagram mostly at Lenise Adams, and then I'm
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Speaker 1: on Facebook at Linnise Adams and Twitter as well. And
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Speaker 1: we're now actually working to do more to talk about
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Speaker 1: mental health and to talk about like what I do
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Speaker 1: to keep my health uh in check and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: So there will be more things coming out where I
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Speaker 1: can help people because, especially with the quarantine, there's people
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Speaker 1: going through depression right now, so I think it's the
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Speaker 1: perfect time to bring up that subject and try to
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Speaker 1: help get people through. Yeah, it's a great time to
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Speaker 1: work on yourself. Um, with all the extra time, I've
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Speaker 1: just been working out and eating better and cooking totally
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Speaker 1: differently than so I feel like, if you're going if
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Speaker 1: you need something to do with your extra chime, put
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Speaker 1: it into yourself. Yeah. Yeah, and you know what, that's
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Speaker 1: what I learned that I think the biggest lesson that
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Speaker 1: I learned when I went through that depression stage. I
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Speaker 1: think I was using the pain in a bad way,
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Speaker 1: just letting the pain take me down. What you do
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Speaker 1: is if you feel pain, you feel something uncomfortable you
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Speaker 1: you know, try to figure it out. Try to maybe
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Speaker 1: read a book, be help, go for a walk, do
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Speaker 1: some journaling. Like everyone is going to have negative things
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Speaker 1: and it's all about how you react to it. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're in this quarantine work out. Yeah, read some books,
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Speaker 1: you know, find a passion, like life is all about
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Speaker 1: turning the negatives into a positive. Lenise, you are a
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Speaker 1: light and we are very thankful that you came on
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Speaker 1: the podcast today. Thanks for having me and Ashley. So
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Speaker 1: I was doing a little bit of reading up on
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Speaker 1: you before I had this interview, and I just want
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Speaker 1: you to know that your wedding day, honest, the eleventh
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Speaker 1: is my birthday. Good day, well, happy upcoming birthday and
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Speaker 1: happy upcoming anniversary. Thank you. Is a great day. It's
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Speaker 1: a great day. It's the best day by Lenise, by Ashley.
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Speaker 1: Well that's it. Thank you guys so much for listening
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Speaker 1: to me for the last hour and some. I really
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Like I don't know how you guys listen
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Speaker 1: to my voice, um, but you do, and it means
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Speaker 1: a ton to me, And I guess I'll sign off
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