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Rays kill St. Pete deal, deGrom plan goes viral, Gabriel Moreno on Jays trade, Cards sign Maton · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: I disagree.
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  Speaker 2: You put the stadium in the right place, you do
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  Speaker 2: the right thing, people will come. I promise you. Look
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  Speaker 2: at the Ray's TV ratings. They're great attendants. Not so
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  Speaker 2: great because of the ballpark.
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  Speaker 3: Charge. We are charging the mound and the Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 3: Race might need a name change soon. So we get
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  Speaker 3: the news officially from the press release in AJ's dancing
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  Speaker 3: because this puts them one step closer to perhaps another city.
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  Speaker 3: But here's Brian Hoak saying the Rays announced they're not
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  Speaker 3: moving forward with a new ballpark in Saint Petersburg. How
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  Speaker 3: Steinberner has said the Yankee spring training facility is only
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  Speaker 3: a one year solution. And I did read the whole
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  Speaker 3: press release. It essentially said, hey, not working out with
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  Speaker 3: Saint Pete. Clearly they're still fighting about the money and
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  Speaker 3: they're excited to get back into the trap because that
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  Speaker 3: falls on Saint Pete to put that together. Here is Dan,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know how to say Dan's name, but
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  Speaker 3: he's a smart fangrafts writer. On some level, you have
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  Speaker 3: to admire them for having the nerve to thank their
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  Speaker 3: fans for the support. The press release that's along witted
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  Speaker 3: sat way of saying thank you, And it's not think
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  Speaker 3: so anyway. AJ, we get this news actually much earlier
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  Speaker 3: than expected. The deadline for them to come up with
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  Speaker 3: the money and the deal here with Saint Petersburg was
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  Speaker 3: March thirty. First, we're weeks out. Do you think this
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  Speaker 3: means that something might change. I we've had so much
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  Speaker 3: back and forth for twenty years with the Rays, for
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  Speaker 3: twenty years with the a's MLB's waiting for this stuff
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  Speaker 3: to happen. The latest negotiation, back and forth. Essentially I'm
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  Speaker 3: paraphrasing here on what's going on is that you had
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  Speaker 3: a hurricane. It stalled things. It makes the project cost more,
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  Speaker 3: and the Rays don't want to foot the bill for
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  Speaker 3: the extra money. And Saint Petersburg's like, this is it.
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  Speaker 3: We are not giving you any more public tax dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That and I don't know that Sternberg has the money.
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  Speaker 2: He has to come up with what's seven hundred million
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  Speaker 2: dollars or some crazy number for half of the range,
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  Speaker 2: yeah or whatever was So I mean there's rumors also
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  Speaker 2: that they weren't sure that he had the money. So
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a combination of a lot. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they're going to be back in Saint Pete.
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  Speaker 2: You've already seen rumors of Manfred be saying, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: other owners saying, hey, we got we got to get
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  Speaker 2: a new ownership group in there to make things happen.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's the most logical step. Nest Is
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  Speaker 2: is stew and his group of people have to sell
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  Speaker 2: to the highest bidder and then they have to figure
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  Speaker 2: it out because whether it's in Tampa, whether that's in Orlando,
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  Speaker 2: wherever it is. But they want to keep the team
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  Speaker 2: in Florida. They just don't know where it's going to be.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Tampa makes obviously the most sense because they already have
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  Speaker 2: a built in fan base of being the Tampa Bay Rays.
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  Speaker 2: But if that can't they they've been trying to get
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  Speaker 2: a stadium there for twenty plus years and it hasn't
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  Speaker 2: worked out. But hey, there's a town not far down
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  Speaker 2: the street. Does it starts with the know and ends
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  Speaker 2: in Orlando that would welcome them gladly?
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  Speaker 3: Do we think this is done? Like, does this press
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  Speaker 3: release really tell us the raise.
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  Speaker 2: And it's done with this? It's done with the ownership group.
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  Speaker 2: To me, I believe I think this is the end
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  Speaker 2: of because don't forget. The mayor of Saint Peter already
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  Speaker 2: came out and said, you know, we've done everything we can.
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  Speaker 2: We're at the end of our row. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: them to do something right. It's time for Sternberg and
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  Speaker 2: his group to do something. So I think, to me,
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  Speaker 2: the mayor jumped it and said, hey, I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to be the mayor that loses the team, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna put the pressure on them, and then the Rays
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  Speaker 2: to come out and say thank you for all your
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  Speaker 2: support and whatever, and then Brian Hoak saying it's only
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  Speaker 2: a one year situation and them saying, oh, we're not
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  Speaker 2: pursuing this because let's not forget. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: real estate people that had big plans for this area.
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  Speaker 2: I mean was across the street in the parking lot
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  Speaker 2: they were looking at like a battery type of thing.
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  Speaker 2: So for them to come out and say it's not happening,
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  Speaker 2: it's a big blow to the city of Saint Petersburg,
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  Speaker 2: But it's also a big blow to money people in
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  Speaker 2: the city of Saint Pete in that area because people
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  Speaker 2: had invested money in it. So that's why I think
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  Speaker 2: it's dead. I don't know, can you revive it possibly,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's time for them. They're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to figure out another situation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah if I mean, perhaps a new ownership group can
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  Speaker 3: revive it if they take over and say, hey, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to honor that deal. But that's got to happen
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  Speaker 3: in the next few weeks. The team's not getting sold
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  Speaker 3: in two and a half weeks.
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  Speaker 4: No, not getting sold and not like you can't just
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  Speaker 4: find that kind of money, Like it's hard to be like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I got five hundred million, but where am
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  Speaker 4: I going to come up with the other two hundred
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  Speaker 4: and sixty million to suffice what I need for the stadium?
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  Speaker 4: To me, I think it's a great job by the
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  Speaker 4: government whoever made I think the mayor made the made
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  Speaker 4: the decision. Governor made the decision to stand firm like, no,
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  Speaker 4: we can't pay more. We've already committed a lot. And
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  Speaker 4: in this case, you own a business, you want to
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  Speaker 4: have it somewhere, you have to step up. And if
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  Speaker 4: he's not willing to step up, go ahead and move
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  Speaker 4: on because this isn't just like, this isn't just sell
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  Speaker 4: the Rays and that's it. Manford's already drawn a line
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  Speaker 4: in the sand and said, if we don't get the
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  Speaker 4: situation with the a's and rays taking care of first,
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  Speaker 4: we can't go to expansion. So now you have the
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  Speaker 4: head honcho saying, okay, we have to push this so
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  Speaker 4: that we can each get our two billion dollar expansion
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  Speaker 4: fees for all the owners. It's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 4: Four billion dollars for two new expansion teams. It'll be
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  Speaker 4: under Manford's legacy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there has to be a competition in order for
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  Speaker 3: MLB to get what it wants with public tax dollars,
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  Speaker 3: real estate, et cetera. Right, So, just to explain this,
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  Speaker 3: let's say the top two contenders on the west side
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  Speaker 3: of the country are Portland and Salt Lake City, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: And on the east side it's one of the big
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  Speaker 3: cities in the Carolinas, Right, like a what have you
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  Speaker 3: been talking about Riley Durham, Charlotte, Charlotte, Yeah, kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of a national World or Nashville.
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  Speaker 3: You can't eliminate one of those top contenders because then
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  Speaker 3: it takes leverage away, right, because they're going to say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: for example, Portland, Salt Lake City, let's break down the finances.
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  Speaker 3: Which city is giving us the most money, Which city
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  Speaker 3: is giving us the most realist state, the best project
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  Speaker 3: around the stadium, that includes owning everything possible to make
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  Speaker 3: this as lucrative as possible. That is what happens in
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  Speaker 3: this analysis when they're figuring out which team is going
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  Speaker 3: to get a new team or right, which city is
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  Speaker 3: going to get a new team AJ So it can't
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  Speaker 3: just be one city. So anyway, that's why they want to.
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  Speaker 1: Get it for Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: They already lost Vegas because that was one that was
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  Speaker 2: rumored for an expansion team. That's why the A's saying
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna move to Vegas kind of put a you know,
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  Speaker 2: a hitching their gideo so to speak, right, because that
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  Speaker 2: was the one city where everyone's like, oh, Vegas is
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  Speaker 2: the place they'll figure out how to get the money
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  Speaker 2: like the Golden Knights did. And the Vegas people were like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: we'll take an expansion team, we just don't want to
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  Speaker 2: use team like the A's. So that's why when the
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  Speaker 2: A's announced, oh We're going to Vegas, then they're like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: who else can we come up with on the west
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  Speaker 2: coast because you kind of got to do one east
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  Speaker 2: and west. That's where Salt Lake is kind of embidding.
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  Speaker 2: Portland's kind of out there, right, and you have Nashville
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  Speaker 2: and the Carolinas, whether it's Roley, Durham or Charlotte, so
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  Speaker 2: that I'll put them in. I don't know what's gonna happen,
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  Speaker 2: but I think that the fact that you have two
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  Speaker 2: teams playing in a minor league park this year is
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  Speaker 2: crazy to me. Two major league teams are playing in
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  Speaker 2: minor league parks. That's insane to me. And also, you
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  Speaker 2: got to figure out Tampa. You got to figure out
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  Speaker 2: when Vegas is finally done, and if you want to
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  Speaker 2: do expansion, I think it's a few years away because
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  Speaker 2: of all the other things going on. But you got
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  Speaker 2: to find the right fit for these teams, because you
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  Speaker 2: don't want an expansion team going let's say to Portland
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just using Portland or Salt Lake or wherever
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  Speaker 2: it is, and then five years from now saying no,
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  Speaker 2: this is viable, we can go to the other one
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  Speaker 2: that also bid. You don't want that. You want them
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  Speaker 2: to be established franchises for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: aj is I get that there's a standoff when there
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  Speaker 3: are negotiations, and we just saw that in the dispute
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  Speaker 3: with the Orioles and the Nationals over their TV rights
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  Speaker 3: that finally got settled, and as Ken Rosenthal called it,
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  Speaker 3: the one hundred years War, we've essentially seen this now
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  Speaker 3: with the Rays and the A's. I mean, we're close
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  Speaker 3: to two decades of staring matches and projects that have
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  Speaker 3: not happened. Right, this was sigin seal delivered. We did
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  Speaker 3: the whole press release. Let's talk about it. Spend a
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  Speaker 3: nice fifteen twenty minutes on FT how awesome this is
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  Speaker 3: going to be. They deserve a new park. The trap
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  Speaker 3: is not pretty. I mean, this is seventeen plus years
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  Speaker 3: now of working on this. So I do actually think
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you that at this point you're not
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  Speaker 3: going to see this ownership group figure it out with
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  Speaker 3: Saint Pete. I mean, they've made that quite clear. And
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  Speaker 3: the other side of the equation here is will they
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  Speaker 3: actually sell and will they do it soon or will
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  Speaker 3: it get ugly with MLB and even the MLBPA because
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  Speaker 3: part of this whole equation is revenue sharing money and
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  Speaker 3: it's estimated that the Rays got about sixty million dollars
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  Speaker 3: per year in free money from the league to operate
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  Speaker 3: as a smaller market franchise. There are also other smaller
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  Speaker 3: market franchises that are pissed about it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know why the Rays are considered small market.
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  Speaker 2: Explain that to me, because they're in the top I
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  Speaker 2: think they're twelve in TV markets.
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  Speaker 1: They're twelfth.
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  Speaker 2: They're not like Vegas is like I think fortieth or
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  Speaker 2: in the late thirties. Tampa Bay Area is twelfth in
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  Speaker 2: a TV market, So why are they considered small market?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, it looks like they're they're top twelve.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm on Wikipedia real quick for TV markets
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  Speaker 3: right now, and it looks like Tampa Saint Pete is
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  Speaker 3: number eleven and the Bay Area is number ten. You know,
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  Speaker 3: in the A's obviously had been getting all that kind
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  Speaker 3: of money for.
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  Speaker 1: A long time.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 2: The funniest the A's didn't get that money. That's why
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  Speaker 2: when they moved to Sacramento, they did get the money,
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  Speaker 2: because that's why they had to spend the money.
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  Speaker 1: Right It's like Miami.
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  Speaker 2: Why is Miami not spending the money where Miami's like
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  Speaker 2: top ten markets.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're well They're listed as eighteen, so they're a
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  Speaker 3: little bit.
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  Speaker 2: So they're eighty, so they're smaller than Tampa. Okay, but
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  Speaker 2: Miami's been getting money and they're not spending it, So
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  Speaker 2: why don't Why are they not getting why are they
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  Speaker 2: getting a pass right? That's why I think this is
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  Speaker 2: so frustrating and confusing to people is because nobody really
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  Speaker 2: knows who gets what money. No one's really coming out
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  Speaker 2: and saying, oh, well, Pittsburgh gets money this why would
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  Speaker 2: Tampa get money? They're tough, they're eleventh and TV size.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that supposed to be a big market?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: What about the people that say, hey, Florida doesn't care,
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  Speaker 3: they can't support baseball.
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  Speaker 1: I disagree.
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  Speaker 3: Disgree, I disagree too.
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  Speaker 1: I disagree.
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  Speaker 2: You put the stadium in the right place, you do
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  Speaker 2: the right thing, you build up the area around it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Miami has a great new giant stadium.
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  Speaker 2: They put in a bad spot. If say what you
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  Speaker 2: want about where the Dolphins play in Lauderdale, but you
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  Speaker 2: can draw from Palm Beach, Oca Lauderdale and Miami in Miami.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody from Lauderdale in North is going to drive down
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  Speaker 2: to Miami to a stadium that, quite frankly, isn't easy
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  Speaker 2: to get to. There's really bad parking, and it's not
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it ain't in the greatest area. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I mean you remember where the old Orange Bowl was.
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  Speaker 2: Got you went to the University of Miami.
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  Speaker 1: It's Note Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I don't mean that rudely at all,
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  Speaker 2: but it just isn't in a great spot. And then
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  Speaker 2: you take Tampa. Nobody from Tampa and East Orlando ish
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  Speaker 2: and even you can you throw Sarasota in them in there.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lot of people want to go over the
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  Speaker 2: Giant Bridge, the Sunshine Causeway, which is the huge bridge,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody wants to go over one of the other
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  Speaker 2: bridges from Tampa because they always get backed up and
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  Speaker 2: it could take you thirty minutes, it could take you
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  Speaker 2: three hours. You just never know, and it's just a pain. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: they've done a lot to spruce ub Saint Pete, but
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  Speaker 2: there's not a ton around the ballpark, so you have
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  Speaker 2: to go into Saint Pete. It's not it's just if
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  Speaker 2: you build it in the right place, people will come.
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  Speaker 2: I promise you. Look at the Ray's TV ratings, they're
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  Speaker 2: great attendants not so great because of the ballpark.
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  Speaker 3: Well, just because we're Florida residents and obviously you're mister Orlando,
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  Speaker 3: but you know the state really well. I've seen comments
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  Speaker 3: on clips when we talked about this topic, and some
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  Speaker 3: people have said, well, there would be plenty of traffic
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  Speaker 3: issues in Tampa and it's not like Orlando as a
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  Speaker 3: breeze with traffic either compared to many other spots. What's
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  Speaker 3: your response to that, Like, if it does end up
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  Speaker 3: in one of those places, will it be easier?
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  Speaker 1: It depends again where they put it.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: There's main thoroughfares in both of those spots, right in
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  Speaker 2: Tampa where some of the projected stadiums have gone. But again,
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  Speaker 2: if you build up the area around it and make
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  Speaker 2: it a nation like they did in the Battery, because
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  Speaker 2: guess what they said about the Battery in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's traffic, da da da da. People go there
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen how much money the Braves have made off
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  Speaker 2: off the truest park since they put it in. Right,
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  Speaker 2: look at Saint Louis with ballpark village. There's not much
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  Speaker 2: around there, meaning highways and traffic and all that. But
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  Speaker 2: guess what people go because there's a bunch around it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the key.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be able to put it in put
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  Speaker 2: something around it. I know some of the places they've
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  Speaker 2: talked about. In Orlando, there's multiple multiple major highways. They've
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  Speaker 2: talked about putting a train station in there on the
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  Speaker 2: light rail so people can get in from Tampa and
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  Speaker 2: Miami and everywhere else to come to games. And in Tampa,
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  Speaker 2: you'd have to do the same thing. You just have
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  Speaker 2: to make it a spot where it's not just a ballpark.
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  Speaker 2: It has to have other things around it so people
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  Speaker 2: can get there at four o'clock, five o'clock, go have dinner,
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  Speaker 2: then go to the game. It's a day gaming, go
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  Speaker 2: have lunch, stay after, have dinner after the game. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So it's not just in and out. It has to
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  Speaker 2: be something where it's a destination with other things to
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  Speaker 2: do besides just the baseball. Yes, the baseball would be
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  Speaker 2: the main attraction, but you have to be able to
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  Speaker 2: have concerts that the people want to go to. You
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  Speaker 2: have to be able to have hotels, apartments, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: You have to have that other attractions. That's how you
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  Speaker 2: make it a destination.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Restaurants, bars, right, in Atlanta and Atlanta Cobb County
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  Speaker 3: where the Braves play. I mean, that's its own community
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  Speaker 3: with great food, great drinks, the whole deal. And let
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  Speaker 3: me tell you, I have been there plenty of times,
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  Speaker 3: including for the World Series. It ain't easy to get
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  Speaker 3: out of the ballpark right after the game. So what happens.
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  Speaker 3: It's a party in that area and you just plan accordingly.
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  Speaker 3: In Florida, you could do the same thing like AJ mentioned,
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: it just has not been drawn up correctly. And right
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: now there's just a money battle that looks like it
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: finally hit a stellmate where the city's like our Saint
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Pete's like, hey, we're done. This is what we agreed to.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: We're not paying anymore. So anyway, we'll see what happens.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I would have Eric cove your eyes, just cove your eyes.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: There they go, Eric Covey Ryes is it?
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 14:49
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• 14:49
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• 14:50
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• 14:50
  Speaker 4: What's great about a drug tester? They can be pissed
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: off every day, but never pissed on great point.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Wow, I've never ever seen the drug testers.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: They just walked.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: They just made an appearance. That's cool.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Every testers, every cam.
• 15:10
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• 16:17
  Speaker 6: Yo.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Shout out to our team. Absolutely hustling out in Arizona.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: We're doing two shows a day. We hit the camps
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: and then at night we do these Clutchhouse conversations, so
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Clutches and Agency and MLB and they put an activation together,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: so we were like, hey, can we swing by and
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: talk to your players? So it's been really cool. You know.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Part of the inspiration here is that we see other
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: shows in the basketball and football space do this where
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: they'll go to you know, camps for football, or they'll
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: sit down at a home of a basketball player and
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: it looks all fancy and high quality and they get
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: like a good you know, fifteen twenty minutes whatever it is.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: So we're doing that here. We did that last night
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: with a few notable names. So we're going to show
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: one conversation now then we'll talk about it. Gabriel Moreno,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: in my mind, stole the show last night with the
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: outfit and the word. So here's five minutes from it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: What do you think when you got traded?
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Because I know Toronto fans to say that was one
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: of their worst trades they've ever made. Not nothing against
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Dalton var Show, but they got you gold Glover and
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: they got Gurriel who's a very unbelievable player and hit
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: her big clutch hitter.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: So what do you think when you got traded?
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: I always think like when they called me, like was
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: December twenty three at Rossanski called me for giving the the.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: The Amry Christman.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: That was my Yeah, for sure, that was my my
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: first time in the States and yeah.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: No, no, in the in the big league. And I
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: thought it is he gonna give me that?
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: And he told me, hey, you in for trade so
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: to both to Diamondbacks and.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: I say wow, and he'd believe me.
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: But like he just trained me, just train me. Like
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: but it's good good, I think, yeah, And and.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: And the divas give me the opportunity.
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: To be behind the play every day and that's what
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: I'm so happy for this thing.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: And I feel like I'm a home.
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: I feel like I'm Mahon and all this stuff and
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: wing Gouriel like that's my teammate, like all with him
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: everywhere he goes and go with him and that's a
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: good parent.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Hell yeah, what.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Color he had?
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: Purple? Being green last year? He thinks, he says, it's
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: good chained for another color, but I don't know what
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: color is gonna be.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: But yeah, we had a.
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: My teammate like Corn Carrol al Thomas. Everybody can tell
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: Domo and they give you the they welcome to a
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: team and and they are good, good tayor the good person.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: Like they give you their coffees to be like like
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: a home. And that's the key for for where we
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: are now.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Now, that's awesome.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: So what a what a what a run that you've
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: already had, you know, coming just growing up in Venezuela,
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: obviously wanting to get to the big leagues, signing as
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: an infielder and already a gold glove and you're you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: young in your career and that's that's pretty awesome. Congratulations,
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: Thanks for taking.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: The time before we go. You got to ask you
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: about the Dodgers. Come on the last time to beat
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers. He was buying the place.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: Now that's awesome, honestly, like you guys. Nobody, you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: with the exception of you. Everybody believed that the Dodgers
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: were going to win that series, right, and you proved
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: everybody wrong.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: How much satisfaction was there in that?
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, wow, remember that moment, like I'm crazy, Yeah, I
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: guess I hit at home against the Yeah, I was
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: gonna always remember that that homer we put it. I
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: had a good photo, a good photo for putting Mike
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: Mike walk and hang, hang when he throw the ball
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: was like like this and I was flipping the bag.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: That was That was the best photo I'm going to have.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: And and good I think being that those three games,
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: I think beat it the first game and then you're
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: staying that was amazing. We did a pretty good job.
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: Everybody like was like, what's focal to doing the yard?
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Doing the job? And they did it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: And how about the four home runs on one inning?
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, thanks.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: See how she changed the subject from Dodgers. He changed
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the subject. Yeah, yeah, she doesn't want to talk about
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Dodgers this year. You guys, you guys are not afraid
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: of the Dodgers this year.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: You have a great team.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You guys have the.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Best started one of the best starting rotations if not
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the best, right and every day you.
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: Yep, you will have been. I believe all rotations. And
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: I think we're gonna win a lot of games.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Have a great rotation.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're gonna.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: Wear a lot of games to stay aheady first and.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: And and play baseball.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Who's your favorite one to catch? Oh?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Zach, because you got Zach, you got Merrill right now,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: you have Corbyn, you can say Corbyn.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Monty.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Brandon, I think my favorite catch.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I just say, just say all of them.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm gonna say. Like I got, I just gotta.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: I just call.
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: Two spring training games. Barnes love with him well, Garland,
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: Merrill and all the feature Like I know how the
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: peach I love.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: I love everybody.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: We had to five star star a star rotation and everybody.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: I know, anybody's good. I can say one.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: That's a perfect way to answer. Good job. I appreciate
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: you taking the time.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: They're gonna listen. They're gonna be good. I know we
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: talked about the as being good. You were in there,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: we were at your camp yesterday. You guys are gonna
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: be good, good, good, good, stay healthy and good luck.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: All right here we go better than box scores.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So I'm strolling wherever they play. Sorry, Jerry.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Jerry's walking by and I asked him why he took
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: my parking spot that said Ryan Rhinestorf on it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: What did he say?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: He said, you can park there tomorrow when I'm not here.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, two taking.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: That's good, that's good. You're allowed to stop and tell
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: us about your conversations with White Sox ownership. We're good
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: with that. That's why you're there. We sent you out
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: there for this inside info.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I did parking his when I was with when we
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: were at Dodgers camp on Monday. I did come over
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: here and I knew he wasn't here, so I did
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: park in a spot, took a picture and send it
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: to him, and he's he said, wow, I'm surprised they
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: remember who I am.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you're on the.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Team, dude, idea what he looks like? So I'm glad
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: you're there, not me.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: You don't know what he looks like. You don't know
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: what Jerry looks like.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Really, really, if you saw him, remember when they won
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: all the Bulls Championships and the White Sox championships.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: He looks the same.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I remember that guy.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same guys. It's the same day, all right. So
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: let's get to better than box scores. Because I'm scrolling
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: through the news sites, you know, USPN, CBS, ETCATRA right
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: where you're just looking at sports news, and I see
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: something about Bruce Bochie and the phantomiel, And I'm like,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: is this from our show yesterday? So I click on
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: the article and it, indeed is. There was some fan,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: especially Mets fan, feedback on a quote from Bruce Bochie
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: on our show yesterday. So here's one of the headlines
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: in CBS. Rangers plan to keep to ground fresh could
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: include using the il to skip starts. So Boach just
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: was casually talking about.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: How did he say that?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I dug up the quote, you know, and at
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: one point like he's I'll just read it real quick
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: because it's not that long. But he said, we're going
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: to have him at the back end of the rotation season,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: so when he got in there, we have those days
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: officers for his first five starts to all that that
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: extra day off. We'll just try to watch his workload.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: He's a key for our success. We know what we
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: got to take care of him try to get as
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: many starts as we can. Now during the season, if
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: we have to skip a start or put him on
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: the il to miss a couple starts to keep him fresh,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: we'll do that. To me, this is the essence of
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: how this works and how casual it is in our sport,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: which we've told everyone about for the first two plus
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: years of this show, aj and how it's so casual
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: that we just keep going in conversation. But part of
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the world stops, like didn't Billy Eppler got in trouble
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: for this with the Mets.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, Jacob vc Grum's coming off Tommy
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: John so every team on Earth will find a way
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: to limit his innings. And the Rangers would rather have
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: him healthy at the end of the year when they
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: believe they're going to be playing for a postseason birth
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and have him into the playoffs in the World Series.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So this isn't This was not news to me. Every
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: team does this with guys that are coming off surgeries
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and injuries and whatever it is, and pitchers in general.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, Doug, I remember back in two thousand
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and five, we used to have to skip ol Duke
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: because he was older, and we wanted Brandon McCarthy to
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: come up and start, and so we had al Duke
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: in the postseason, which he had one of the biggest
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: postseason innings of all time.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So listen, this is not this isoldn't be a story.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I think this is ludicrous and we're making this into
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: a story. But I mean, come on, he's not talking
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: roster manipulation. He's talking about trying to keep a guy healthy.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: That's what the AL is for, to try to keep
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: a guy healthy long term for his team.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's what the al's for, because
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Billy Eppler got a six month vacation for it, lost
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: his job.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Like I.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: There has to be some type of stipulation because you
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: can't just say, well, we're going to punish the team
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: for having a player who's recovering from an injury. Isn't
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: this the epidemic of baseball is just all these injuries
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: and reoccurring injuries. So let's try to curtail it here.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Let's make sure we have some caveat in here, because
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: teams abuse this. This is not a case of abusing
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: it by the Rangers and Jacob de Grum this is
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: a case that this is how it should be used.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Other teams abuse it to manipulate the amount of people
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: that they can have on their big league roster.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Amen, that is correct, and we're not just for the
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: record making a story of this. National headlines were making
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: a story out of this, alluding to our conversation yesterday,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: so I felt like we had to double down on
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: it and explain what's going on. Not defending anything. I
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: more just feel like part of the obligation of our
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: show with you guys is to just give people a
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: peek behind the curtain, to say I got no big deal.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I got put on the phanom my l as Bochie
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: was my manager. Boachie was my manager when I was
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: on that team. They were like, we need a third catcher.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: We don't have a spot for a third catcher.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Boom, there you go. And boach doesn't give a crap.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, I got too much dirt in my cleats,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: too many rings on my hand to really worry about
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: this stuff that MGM futures, What do we like with
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the al West. I want to keep reminding people will
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: do official predictions when we get closer to the season,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: But we're looking for value here. Houston listed at plus
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: one sixty, Texas plus two hundred, the Aattle plus two
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: twenty five, the Aths at plus twenty two hundred, and
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the Angels are expected to finish in last place by
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: bet MGM Odds at plus twenty eight hundred. What do
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: you like here?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Aj Aths? Are you kidding me?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: If you watched the show from Clutch last night had
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Seth Brown and Gunnar hoggling on and I was like, uh,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I love the A's so yes, I think plus twenty
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: two hundred. I think they're young, they're hungry, they made
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: some nice additions. I think another year of Lawrence law
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Dog as you guys call them in there. I think
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Langaliers will take another step, Brookers back for another year.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I think I love what they did. They got springs
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: from Tampa Bay. I love what Oakland did, and I
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: think they're going to be excited. They're going to get
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to play in front of a bunch of people in
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a packed howls almost every game. Cots they got an extension,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I mean plus twenty two hundred, Are you kidding me?
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I mean that seems like this is one of the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: easier bets because if you throw money down, you win.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: But that's the one where you can make a lot
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: of money off of it. You know me, guys, when
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: we get into the locks of the day, I'm going
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: for the big home runs. I'm not going for the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the Crats and the scot bron you know, minus one
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: oh five to win one hundred. I'm looking for the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: plus three four hundreds.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: That's fair. I appreciate that I was a plus man
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: all year last year, but it's okay. Don't worry about it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: You roll your dice, that's what you do. I wish
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: the Mariners were like at plus four ten four to
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: twenty gggity, but they're not. So I'm taking the Rangers.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be. I think it's be
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: a close race the whole season, I really do. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: don't think anybody's running away with this division.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think it would be crazy to see the
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: A's win the division this year. I really don't. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I'm with AJ. If you're looking for value and you
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: buy that you want to put a little that way,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at the return you're getting. I do
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: not think that's crazy, Angels, that's crazy, right. The difference
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: between those two is not enough for you to be like, oh,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I think the Angels are going to win the division,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: because that ain't happening anyway. Bonus code foul if you
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: want a place up to fifteen hundred bucks paid back
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: in bone bets if you don't win your first bet
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: when you sign up, in deposit at least ten bucks
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: into a bet MGM sportsbook account, a new account on
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  Speaker 3: the app or at betmgm dot com, and if you
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: lose that first wager, you can get up to fifteen
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: hundred bucks back in bonus bets if the bet loses
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: depends on how much you place. Of course, gambling problem
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: more concern called one in hundred gambler. It's March thirteenth,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: and we finally have the last team to sign a
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: major league or this offseason. It's not really the offseason anymore,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: but the Saint Louis Cardinals sign up Phil Aton, who
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: finished really strong last year in the regular season, obviously
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: had some playoff moments too good and bad. One year,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: two million dollar contract, seventy one appearances last year for
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the Rais and the Mets, including a one to nine
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: to nine ERA in his final forty two regular season
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: appearances should be part of, you know, a higher leverage,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: mid to high leverage role with the Cardinals. And it's
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: a team that didn't do anything this offseason because they
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: were just sitting waiting for a team to bite. On Aaronato,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: they got one team to do it. He said, no,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I'm good, and they're in a weird mode. But at
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: least they added someone who should be helpful. And I
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: think you can book it. He'll be traded in July
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: and they'll get a prospect out of it.
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  Speaker 4: This screams, well they told us to not that Phil
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Yiton shouldn't be a big leaguer and get a big
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: league contract. To me, he's a soft thrower that gets
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: extremely soft contact. So why he was sitting out here
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: this long? I have no idea the way he turned
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: his season around after I think the end of the
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: previous season twenty three he had a little hiccup, but
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: don't quote me on that. On now I'm second guessing it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: But either way, like it almost feels like the Cardinals
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: were told you gotta sign somebody like this looks bad.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Marlin's even got somebody.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: And Katie Wu, who hosts Cardinal territory will go over this,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I'm sure with an episode at some point this week
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: she was tweeting about it because I guess some fans
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: are like, let the young kids pitch. I'm like, one
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: film a time, signing is not going to hurt anyone, Okay.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: One veteran in the bullpen, and and Olie Marmol was
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: asked about it actually had a good answer where he
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: was like, Hey, some dudes aren't ready, So we are
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: going to put our development in a bad position if
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: we don't fill a spot or two here with veteran
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: arms like a minor league contract guy and like a
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: major league deal, which is what we see here with
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Phil Maton. So I'm like, hold up, we want a
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: youth movement, but an armor two is okay.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, you need to complete the innings. You do not
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: need to rush pitchers. You need to give position players
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: some leash, give them at backs. Giving pitchers leash and
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: throwing them out there is only going to get them
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: hurt because they're going to try to do something that
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: they're not capable or able to do. Yet.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Bingo looks like it's getting a little stormy out of
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: the back man. Yeah, it didn't rain.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: It didn't rain. When we heard the Dodgers side of
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: side of camp. I'm just saying, just just make sure
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: we realized it was like sunny birds were out. We
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: go to White Sox camp and it's like, can't can't
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: get anything done. They're getting all their work in White
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Sox side, cloudy, rainy, windy, No birds. Not one bird
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: the whole day, No kind of wild. And I wore
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: a minor League hat because I couldn't find my White
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Sox hat.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Well, you can show it now, what did you wear?
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Or you don't want to show it. That's one of
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: those new ones, were there?
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does, the new ones, the new ones with
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: the mistakes on it. Oh my goodness, that is hilarious,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: just because of the words that it spells.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that that one. That one's an issue. It was
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: covered in depth on Fair Territory today, so if you
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: want to check it out. There were some mistakes. The
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: main point I want to make is just that I
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: don't understand sometimes how things get approved. You know, how
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: something would get past so many people and then be
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: produced and then get noticed.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: It's not like on our show, where like aj Or,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: I look at a tweet and go, oh, what somebody
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: sold the rais Oh wait, no, nobody sold it like that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: That didn't happen. It was a fake tweet. Sorry, Like
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: you don't just like fake make a hat and be like, oh, whoops,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: we put a we put ass on a hat.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Come on, officially licensed. Doesn't the league have to approve
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: that too.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I'm actually positive they do. They do approve anything somebody
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: that's got their stamp on it. So this is multiple
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: checks and balances and a lot of people in trouble
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: for those hats that went viral.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: And that's not even the worst one. Everybody needs to
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: go to look at the Texas hat. Just look at
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: it and then we're golate.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, apparently they're selling online for a ton
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: of money, just as a collector's item or whatever, right,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: because it's just crazy that something like that would get
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: all the way to production and sale online. Anyway, this
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: was fun. This was exactly what I expected to be.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Thanks to the White Sox for giving us all the
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: players that we had combos with. Tomorrow a'scam. We'll wrap
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: up the Arizona trip tonight, please seven o'clock eastern FT. Fam.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: There it is Clutchhouse confirmed guests. Luis Sevarino asked Kate,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: who's been on our show before? Eric Sabrowski and Jeffrey
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yon new addition to the guest list, Yes, with the splits,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: the celebratory Jeffrey Yon of the Rockies. All right, we'll
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: see you tonight seven o'clock. I'll be in the chat.