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The Eyes Have It with Amy G. Dougherty · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

0:39
SPEAKER_01: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Mystic Nerd Squad Podcast.
0:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Kelly Meyerson, and you all know that I love to geek out on all things science and spirituality.
0:53
SPEAKER_01: My guest today has the perfect, most beautiful intersection of those two things.
1:01
SPEAKER_01: And you're gonna want to sit down, you're gonna wanna take some notes, maybe have a fun beverage while you're listening.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: You can always pause and start again.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: And uh my guest, Amy Glesby Darthie, is a fantastic resource for understanding your ancestry.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you a little bit about her.
1:26
SPEAKER_01: Amy hosts The Eyes Habit: Unlocking Your Ancestral Code with Amy.
1:31
SPEAKER_01: She's a best-selling author and founder of Erogenics Ancestral Eye Reading.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: She just launched her phone app, My Eye Origin for You, to take your iPhotos and get an ancestral eye reading of your own.
1:46
SPEAKER_01: Amy, thank you so much for being here.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for having me, Kelly, because you know it's not just you who can geek out on science meets the metaphysics, meets the spiritual meets the soul.
1:59
SPEAKER_00: Um that's absolutely my home playground, also.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: And I will tell you all that I was fortunate enough to be part of the beta for the app.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: So I got to be there at like round zero learning about it and checking it out and supporting Amy in um building the best app possible.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: It is just so cool.
2:23
SPEAKER_01: And you're definitely gonna want to check out her show because she walks people through, looks at their eyes.
2:30
SPEAKER_01: Let me just dial it back a minute because if somebody's listening, they're like, I've never heard the term erogenics.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: Can you just tell us what that is?
2:38
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: So erogenics, um, I'll I'll I'll give the full disclosure.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: We we woke up New Year's morning and we're like, let's make a word for the um for the dictionary, right?
2:58
SPEAKER_00: Let's let's make our own word.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: And I was doing ancestral eye reading already.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: And so era or IRA is the colors, right?
3:05
SPEAKER_00: The rainbow or the colors of the iris, the iris in the eye or the iris flower.
3:09
SPEAKER_00: And genics is, you know, the study of the genetic interfacing.
3:14
SPEAKER_00: And so irigenics was really a perfect word for the study of the iris and how the DNA, how the epigenetics demonstrate and show themselves like a blueprint in our eyes.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: So many people are familiar with iridology and the health aspect of the eyes.
3:30
SPEAKER_00: And I don't do any of the health aspect.
3:32
SPEAKER_00: What I do is all epigenetic patterning, gifts, talents, abilities, as well as unresolved traumas of our ancestors and ancestral images will show up in the eyes.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: I know this.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: I know this.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: And I think what is so cool about it is for anyone listening who's never heard of this, it's such a cool way to get into all of those ancestral pieces that you shared and to figure out.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean, don't we all want to know where did I come from?
4:07
SPEAKER_01: Why do I feel the way I feel?
4:09
SPEAKER_01: Why am I interested in this?
4:11
SPEAKER_01: Why is this aversive to me?
4:12
SPEAKER_01: What was the experience of my ancestors?
4:15
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's just me who has all these questions, but I don't think so because it's a very popular um skill that you've been developing over the past few years.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: So, how did you get started in this?
4:28
SPEAKER_01: What first interested you in looking at the eye?
4:35
SPEAKER_00: Well, I was actually in uh Africa doing survival skills training for kids.
4:40
SPEAKER_00: And when I came back to the States, I wanted to continue working with kids.
4:43
SPEAKER_00: I had a nonprofit, but I didn't have a college degree.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: And so, I mean, I really even kind of struck out trying to volunteer places.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: They were like, oh, no degree.
4:51
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, really?
4:53
SPEAKER_00: I just was in Africa for six years building award-winning programs.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay, but I get it.
4:59
SPEAKER_00: So I went to this class with this gentleman who was teaching about conscious language, people who will say, I never win.
5:07
SPEAKER_00: I'll never find love.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, I always lose, right?
5:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm, you know, I never have any money.
5:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm broke, those kinds of things.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Where they're kind of self-prophecying into their future.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: But as part of his class, he introduced us to another aspect that he did called biooptic holography.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: He was looking at the seven layers of the eyes of the iris.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: And I thought, well, that's just too cool, right?
5:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, geek out, right?
5:30
SPEAKER_00: So he was looking at the layers, but he had come from iridology.
5:34
SPEAKER_00: So he was always looking kind of at health aspects a little bit.
5:37
SPEAKER_00: But not just health aspects, but like what's wrong with you?
5:40
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't care for that part of it.
5:43
SPEAKER_00: But he had some really great um abilities and great, he had a great program.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: What he was doing was great.
5:50
SPEAKER_00: But what he did was pretty much matched iridology to Louise Hay.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: So if you had a mark at six o'clock in your eyes, then you know that might be about partnership forgiveness.
6:00
SPEAKER_00: It was about kidneys.
6:00
SPEAKER_00: He would take where the heart was on the iridology map and say that's about love.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Where the lungs were on the iridology map, that's about fear.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: And his readings were great, but he kept saying that eyes changed all the time.
6:12
SPEAKER_00: He didn't have any pictures of it, which I wasn't questioning him, but I thought, hmm, why don't I see some pictures of this?
6:19
SPEAKER_00: So then I studied with the next guy and the next guy and the next guy.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, they said the next one said, no, eyes really do not change.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: There's only a few things in the eyes that do change from our time of birth.
6:29
SPEAKER_00: And iridology now agrees with that, with new lighting, with new cameras, with new computers to compare, they know that there's only a few things in the eyes that do change during life.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: But then I said, no, wait a minute.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: If there's a marking in sibling rivalry with sisters and I'm the oldest child and my eyes don't change, right?
6:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm geeking out, right?
6:49
SPEAKER_00: This doesn't make sense.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: Where's my science?
6:51
SPEAKER_00: Because then do my eyes change when I get a sister?
6:54
SPEAKER_00: And if my sister dies, does it change back?
6:57
SPEAKER_00: But wait a minute, eyes don't change.
6:58
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, it's like having this dilemma.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: So I went to the next guy and the next guy.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: And finally I got to someone who was working with birth order and with grandparents and great-grandparents.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: And it finally was like the giant light bulb, right?
7:10
SPEAKER_00: Like Tesla bulb in the sky that said, that's it.
7:14
SPEAKER_00: It was our ancestors' experience of a female competitive environment.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: They may have been sisters, they may have been stepsisters, they may have been children in an orphanage, but it's that catty jealousy.
7:24
SPEAKER_00: How come Kelly always gets this?
7:26
SPEAKER_00: How come Kelly always gets that?
7:28
SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, you don't have to have sisters to engage that pattern.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: You'll find it at work, you'll find it in school, you'll find it in your friends, while putting together some social thing at church.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: Somebody will bring the pattern up and it'll hit your trigger and you'll be like, why are we going through this again?
7:44
SPEAKER_01: That sounds so familiar.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: I am the oldest child and I do have a sister.
7:50
SPEAKER_01: And there was definitely moments in childhood where I was, you know, two years older.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: So how come Kelly gets to do this?
7:57
SPEAKER_01: How come I don't get to do this?
7:58
SPEAKER_01: Why don't I get to do it at the same time?
8:00
SPEAKER_01: So that's so interesting.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: And interesting too that this is a pattern that is more common than not.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
8:10
SPEAKER_00: And even if you were a boy with all brothers, you would still engage this pattern, right?
8:15
SPEAKER_00: It's the questioning.
8:16
SPEAKER_00: It's the it's the one thing the first guy I trained with was absolutely dead on right about is it's the language.
8:22
SPEAKER_00: You'll find the pattern in the language.
8:24
SPEAKER_00: So when you say, you never listened to me, it's like your ancestor's voice from 1657 when they were speaking German or speaking Russian or speaking Spanish.
8:35
SPEAKER_00: It's like their voice is coming through you in 2025 saying, this is still a threat to us.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: This still causes drama and trauma.
8:43
SPEAKER_00: Therefore, we're going to continue to imprint this trigger on our DNA going throughout our family line.
8:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: That makes so much sense.
8:53
SPEAKER_01: And I think about the conditioning that can often happen in childhood with those familiar patterns.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking like specifically about money and like those phrases that become part of your lexicon that you just keep repeating, and you're like, I, and then you start to do some self-help stuff and you're like, I don't want to keep repeating that.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: I don't want that to be the truth.
9:15
SPEAKER_01: Like you have to work hard for money.
9:17
SPEAKER_01: Money doesn't grow on trees, like, et cetera.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, that's where I see like it's a very commonplace pattern to get stuck with us.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
9:28
SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, the unhooking can be really quite simple because people will say, okay, now you've told me all my stuff.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: Now what's my, you know, how do I fix it?
9:36
SPEAKER_00: And really the number one is to just in that one second interject, tap out, right?
9:43
SPEAKER_00: So when you're about to go off, right, and you're like, you're there, just stop for one second and go, oh, that's so ancestral.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: Right.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: And I mean it.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: Put some humor on it, that is enough right there.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: You've changed the universe, right?
9:57
SPEAKER_00: So ancestral.
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SPEAKER_00: Breathe.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: And then give some compassion to those because the things that imprint in your eyes are either available for expression, the gifts, or they're available for resolving the traumas, right?
10:11
SPEAKER_00: And so in that moment, what you want to realize is for you and I, sibling rivalry is kind of an annoyance, right?
10:17
SPEAKER_00: It's not a big deal.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: In our ancestors' time, it could be the princesses and one steals the the prince, and now she becomes the queen and she banishes her sister to the tower or has her beheaded.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: Hello, Anne Boleyn.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is where um, this is where you will find these patterns.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: If they imprint in your eyes, it means in your ancestors' time, it was a really big deal.
10:42
SPEAKER_00: So when they had identity issues at Ellis Island, it may have meant they were never going to see their loved ones again because somehow the name got goofed up.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: In our case, we get a Facebook hack and we go, that's not me.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: That's that's not me.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: I've been hacked.
10:57
SPEAKER_00: And what do we do?
10:58
SPEAKER_00: We change our password.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: Right?
11:01
SPEAKER_00: We just have to find what we have that our ancestors didn't to interject the pattern.
11:06
SPEAKER_01: I like this so much because it's such a nice reframe from being in a state of victimhood and powerlessness to being empowered, to being able to say, this is an opportunity to heal, to feel, like you said, to express, versus feeling like this is someplace I'm stuck and I don't get to change this.
11:30
SPEAKER_01: I have to live with this.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: And that's why it's so important for me to work with kids whenever possible, because so many times kids think, well, it must be me.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm the common denominator.
11:41
SPEAKER_00: Why does nobody ever listen to me?
11:43
SPEAKER_00: And the thing you want to remember is if it's weird, bizarre, unique, only happens to you, happens to you over and over again, or happened up to age eight to 10, it's ancestral.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: So at that time, we are full on emotion, right?
11:56
SPEAKER_00: Mom, he's sitting on me.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: Mom, he won't let me up.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: Mom, I hate you.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: Get off me.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: Right?
12:02
SPEAKER_00: We are full physical, chemical, cellular response, right?
12:06
SPEAKER_00: When we're an adult, we'd be like, get off me.
12:09
SPEAKER_00: What's your problem?
12:10
SPEAKER_00: Right?
12:10
SPEAKER_00: We're in a whole different place.
12:12
SPEAKER_00: So in childhood and in our early formative years, that's when these things really hit home.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: The loss of a pet, having to give a pet away so many times is a reflection of an ancestor who had to re-home a child, or maybe they had to put the child on the ship to America by themselves while they were coming later, right?
12:29
SPEAKER_00: And so it's not that common to have to give a child up in that way in America.
12:34
SPEAKER_00: And so it reenacts as having to give away a beloved cat or a beloved dog, a member of the family.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: And so the patterns will show up in whatever way they can.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: But kids, I mean, sometimes kids will become absolutely almost suicidal over things.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: They never listen to me.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: What's wrong with me?
12:51
SPEAKER_00: It's me.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: And it's not, it's an ancestral pattern.
12:55
SPEAKER_00: Let's look at it for what it is and let's find the solution.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: And let's move through so you can get to the good stuff, get to the gifts your ancestors had, because you're not spending all your energy into combating traumas that don't really need to be anymore.
13:10
SPEAKER_01: I love that so much.
13:13
SPEAKER_01: And I also love the potential for somebody who went through their childhood with those patterns happening, being able to go back and reframe their childhood as those pieces showing up and heal that trauma for the past.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: And forever.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: And forever.
13:34
SPEAKER_00: So people sometimes will ask me my why.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: And I was at a show in Oaks, Pennsylvania, some years ago, I think 2019 or 18.
13:43
SPEAKER_00: And I encountered a um a retired Navy admiral.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: And he kind of asked me what was what I was doing, right?
13:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, and he had that confident air, you know, as a retired admiral should, right?
13:56
SPEAKER_00: And he was like, What are you doing?
13:58
SPEAKER_00: I was explaining to him.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: And then I said, well, for example, I said the parents' experience of their pregnancy with the child shows up in the eyes.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: It shows up at five o'clock in in the left eye and seven o'clock in the right eye, mom and dad.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: And I said, so oftentimes, especially when they're military children, we'll find that there was some kind of clash at the conception time, especially if the baby was conceived during a military furlough, right?
14:22
SPEAKER_00: Or just before active duty, where where the dad is like, oh my gosh, I'm going on active duty.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: We can't be pregnant.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: You better not be pregnant, that kind of thing.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: And the child is born with this sense of, it's my fault.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: You don't love me.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: They can't hear I love you from their parent.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I'm babbling away, right?
14:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a show, I'm talking.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: And I look over and the man has a tear running down his face.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: And he says, Amy, you have to do this work.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: He said, This was our story.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: He said, My son, we were in therapy with him for five years, and he could not hear, I love you from me.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: We did family bonding exercises, we did counseling, we did everything, and he could not hear it.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: And he said, In five years of counseling, this conversation never happened.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: He said, We lost our son to suicide.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: And he said, I am sure.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: He said, I know it in my every cell that that is why we had a big fight when she got pregnant because I was headed overseas and I was mad about it.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: But when he was born, I absolutely loved him.
15:25
SPEAKER_00: I loved him from day one, and we couldn't fathom why he couldn't hear I love you.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: And I said, This is the true tragedy.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: I said, I was adopted, so I have that in utero experience in me.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: My adopted parents loved me like crazy, but I had trouble feeling.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: I'd be like, I hear the words, but my cells are saying something else.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: So either I'm wrong or you're wrong.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: And now this child has this battle going on, and all they need is the rest of the story.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: They just need to understand why they feel this way and why it might not be true.
15:57
SPEAKER_01: I think that's such a beautiful thing because there are so many tragic stories like that, or even just not like globally tragic, but people living with pain that's unnecessary.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: And when I think back, and again, keep in mind, nobody did anything wrong during the pregnancy.
16:18
SPEAKER_00: Nobody knew that that the in-uter impressions came from the emotional feet of the parents, even if the father didn't know about the child, it's still imprints.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: So if it's someone, a man who doesn't even know he has a child and he's cruising through life and his brother gets in a car accident and he has a big emotional response, it's still imprints on the baby, right?
16:37
SPEAKER_00: And so it's just important to put things into kind of a perspective layer, you know what I mean?
16:43
SPEAKER_00: To just give it some cushion and say, let's just look at this from another angle, you know, just for a moment.
16:48
SPEAKER_00: Let's just take a moment and look at this another way and see where this may come from.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, and like you said, there's so many tragic stories out there.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: And when I think of how my mom and I butted heads all the way growing up, and if I'd just known that she has the eye structure that you don't talk to before 10 in the morning, we'd have been so much better.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: If I'd have known I got this hoppy boppy personality and she had the instinct, the instinctive similar to yours, where it's like if you're gonna drop something like a bomb, like I'm gonna go to Europe and I'm gonna blah, blah, blah, blah, blah you just drop it off and let it perk for a couple days.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: You don't ask for an answer right now, you just let them process because they're a processor.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: And if people knew that in their relationships, oh my gosh, especially family relationships, before people become estranged when it's just not necessary.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: So true.
17:38
SPEAKER_01: So true.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: And and I think about um in past generations, how infrequent conversations happened to give the background and the explanation.
17:51
SPEAKER_01: I feel like even I'm I'm a Gen Xer, I was born in the late 70s, and talking about feelings was such a a no.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: Like that it didn't happen.
18:04
SPEAKER_01: Or if you're going to, you're gonna hire someone.
18:06
SPEAKER_00: I will send you to the we'll send you to the the school counselor, we'll send you to the person at church, we'll send you to the social worker.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we don't we don't really know what to do with this.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: I I feel like we grew up more with like feelings are super uncomfortable, like high emotions are super uncomfortable.
18:26
SPEAKER_01: And I feel fortunate enough to be an adult now, to have done a lot of inner healing and figuring out myself to know that very often parents who are having difficulty with the strong emotions from their children, it's because it's triggering a trauma, it's making them feel unsafe and everybody's in fight or flight and trying to manage through that.
20:16
SPEAKER_01: And knowing that one, I feel like I have just so much understanding and forgiveness for my parents and realize that they were always just doing the best they could.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: And two, I feel as a parent, just that little bit of self-awareness when there are moments that happen, I can make a better choice than maybe I did before I wasn't so aware of that.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
20:40
SPEAKER_00: And you know, um, I see behind you you have the self-healing book that you and I both wrote in.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: And in that book, the chapter I wrote was about the in utero experience and that if you have impossible family situations.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I know, I hate to say it, but I know plenty of kids whose parents have tried to kill them.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's kind of an impossible family situation.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: And in that book, I take them through a meditation where they make a timeline on the floor and meet their parents before they were born, maybe before their parents even met, right?
21:11
SPEAKER_00: And walk them through the entire inuter experience and rebirth it, holding their parents' hands as if they were little children, like meeting them as children when they were full of joy and laughter and all those things before things happened to them in life to get them where they were.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
21:27
SPEAKER_00: And just to rebirth.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: And again, being adopted, it's a great exercise for people who know nothing about their ancestry or their lineage or anything else.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: And just reaching out to your ancestors when you don't know anything about them.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's kind of brilliant.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: Or if you've got horrible grandparents, it doesn't happen as often, but I know a few who, you know, tell incredible stories about things that went on with their grandparents.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: Go back to the first ancestor you don't know and love on them because you're all descendants of them.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: So just take it back one step further and then bring it forward.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: And another great place to do some healing work because you know when you're in that day and you got, here's, you know, Kelly's Nerd Squad podcast, and you're like, Yes, I was born to do this.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: All 4,000 of your last 11 generations of ancestors are in there going, Yes.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: And in fact, we're typically made up of about 80 ancestors in our DNA, but it comes from that pool of 4,000, which is why siblings are so different, because they're tied to different ancestry.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: And when you're having that day and you're a puddle, you're like, you never listen to me.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Why can't you hear me?
22:34
SPEAKER_00: In that moment, there's 200 of them going, oh, that one was mine.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: I was on a ship.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: There was this captain.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I was in the market.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: That one's mine.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: They didn't mean for you to go through it again.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: Just like you wouldn't want your child or your grandchild to go through things.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: They really did not intend to pass down those traumas.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: So putting a bunch of love back there, your life can just start shifting in ways that's like the end of Mercury retrograde, right?
22:58
SPEAKER_00: All of a sudden the sun is out and you're like, wow, who are these people?
23:03
SPEAKER_00: Where did they come from?
23:04
SPEAKER_00: Where did this new job come from?
23:06
SPEAKER_00: You can just shift your universe.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: It's it's really amazing.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: I love that you brought up that tool that you gave us in the Ultimate Guide to Self-Healing volume four, because I remember um loving being part of that project with Brave Healer Productions, Laura DeFranco, and getting the advanced reader copy and getting the opportunity to read everybody's chapters.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: And I remember sitting in my bedroom doing that exact exercise and and going through it.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: And it was so tremendously simple and so hugely healing for me.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, back in 2020, when a lot of us were seeking those healing opportunities, um, it really did make such a huge difference.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: It really made my parents so much more human for me.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: And like the forgiveness that flows when you go through that experience.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: And the more opportunity for real unconditional love to filter back in is so amazing.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: It's almost like meeting, which I got to, it's almost like meeting your parents as an adult.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: When you're not in that high emotional, like I didn't meet my birth mother till I was 19 and my birth father till I was 54.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: And so I got to meet them as adults when we were side by side, right?
24:33
SPEAKER_00: And so we didn't go through all those traumatic early years that kids go through.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: And so again, especially being adopted and knowing that you know you're like, who am I?
24:43
SPEAKER_00: Where did I come from?
24:45
SPEAKER_00: Doing an exercise like this can just shift.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Besides that, it's just an automatic reach back through your DNA to your ancestors, right?
24:52
SPEAKER_00: It's just a loving plug-in.
24:53
SPEAKER_00: And it does not discount your adopted family.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: It does not discount them what bit it makes everything smoother.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: It just heals you enough to make everything more wholesome.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: I I love that you've done so much of this work and and there have been others along the way in the different ancestral books that you've written and supported the journal you know all of those tools are so fantastic.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: And what I love so much about it is it gives people an in to really taking that journey into healing themselves.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: And now you have started an app, which I think is just the coolest thing because whereas people would have to you know take pictures connect with you know and it was a very like homegrown organic experience now this is taking it to the level of technology.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: And I had the opportunity to come on your show and talk to you and go through and look at the pictures.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: It's to me I'm such a nerd like I get so excited about checking these things out and finding out more about myself and these secrets that are hiding in our eyes.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: So tell us a little bit about how did you get started with the process of going towards having an app versus just existing on your own doing all of these where did that journey start for you?
26:23
SPEAKER_00: Well true to your achievement rings, you were the achiever when it came to beta testing you did it not only perfectly you did it better than I ever dreamt um and you and for your audience Kelly has amazing achievement rings.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: So she has this constant to-do list I have to I need to I'm supposed to I should I've got to do this I ought to do that.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: When it comes to the app so I'm turning 60 this summer and I was like man I've got to start delivering this information to the world.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: And it's come to the point where it's almost been selfish to keep doing expos and shows and reading 40 people because while I'm taking the time to read 40 people there's 4000 people that don't know anything about this method of looking at your ancestors.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: And my experience I truly believe though it'll take science to prove it that we are seeing the DNA helix sliced that we're seeing like the fiber optics of the helix coming through our that's what we see in our eyes is our blueprint.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: So the app, we actually started it originally in like 2011 and it's taken all this time for cameras in the phones to catch up with us enough that we could actually do it.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: So what happens is you can upload or you can take your iPhotos and then it's going to ask you about seven or eight questions.
27:34
SPEAKER_00: And what it's going to give you is a report that is really all about your ancestral gifts and origin, the origin of your color, the ancestral gifts of your motivation rings like your achievement rings, um, what your structure was what your personality was and did you shift from your birth personality to kind of a survival mode or a little different operating system?
27:55
SPEAKER_00: And also your pupil shaping which takes place by age two or three.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: And so it goes through the things that are easily able to be read by AI easily able to be read by AI easily for you to be able to answer the questions for us to cover your ancestral gifts and origins.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: What it doesn't do just yet is it doesn't get into the true traumas which are basically like 12 segments of the eyes we're still working on that because some people's eyes set like this, some a little like this and some like this.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Plus when you take the picture you might be you know looking one way or another and now you're not at 12 o'clock.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: So we're still working on that aspect of it.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: But what it does right now, it gives you a free five to seven page report talking about your intuitive abilities, your intuitive gifts, your structure, all those things.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: And then for right now it's just$7.99 while we're working out some graphics like page numbers but it gives you a 52 to 72 page full report for under$8 for$799.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: And when we finish with the graphics and everything it'll be just 12, it'll be just$1299.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: It's only going to be$5 more because I want to make sure it's accessible to kids to teenagers to adults um because it really does give you a beautiful intro to your eyes your ancestors and yourself.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: It's so cool.
29:15
SPEAKER_01: And I love the way that it takes you through it guides you for how to take the pictures of your eyes and what will work best for you.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: You have to create a little bit of light to kind of really elicit seeing those inner pieces.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: And I know there are so many people like that.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm the kid who would look forward to getting the magazine and it would have like a quiz to tell you like who is your perfect boy your best state ever like out of your twos, out of your ones you're a you're a yellow you're a yeah I was the same way.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: What color is your parachute yeah all those things and and then on to like Myers Briggs and Strengthfinder 2.0 I'm obsessed with human design and I've got a friend that's got me into Baza which is B A Z I which is uh the four pillars of destiny which is a like a Chinese type astrology that looks at your your design and pattern.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: All of these things are just so fascinating to me because it really gets you to a point where you can celebrate your individual journey.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: Exactly and there's a professor in Oslo um Matt Slarsen he did a comparative between the Myers Briggs and the eye structures years ago.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: And I did a study with boys and girls clubs comparing the rings to skills assessment the achievement rings over 95% came out with achievement as one of their top five vocational skills and it was consistent on all the motivational rings right so I mean there is some tech stuff behind that.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: And you know the thing is as I said erogenics is the study of how the genetics interface with the iris.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: And so this is a study that'll go on long beyond my life.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: And you know actually it was Laura DeFranco who suggested to me oh Amy you know go out and teach you know you could be charging$10,000 and and you know training these people and these people and these people and I was like man that just doesn't feel like my format right like now I got to go to Minneapolis and train 20 people and what if they aren't doing it right and where do I have to book a hotel and a conference center and I I was just overwhelmed by it and I thought you know I really want to give this to the people right I want to give them the the shows the books the app and so now that the app is up I can start backing down on my show schedule a bit and start you know making more materials for people to learn from right get that book out there that kind of thing and so get it to the world and then once it's there, you know, like human design, once it's out there to the world then I can come back and say, okay, now if there are people who want to specialize and really know this, I know I need to do that part too.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: I just want to make sure that these materials are in people's hands first so they even know there's something to look at because some scientist some other geek like you and I is going to discover so much more than what we've discovered so far.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: And how cool is that that is so cool.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm like come on science I would love for you to take a look at it.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: Bring it in.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah and like you said I mean the the technology for the cameras just keeps getting more and more amazing and it's just the coolest thing that people can do this in the comfort of their own home sitting on their couch, you know, take those pictures and that accessibility I think is also something I'm tremendously motivated by by allowing people wherever they are right now to have access to healing, to understanding their ancestry and to really just living out their best life possible because they're so tuned into who they really are.
33:15
SPEAKER_00: And as soon as possible right don't wait until you're in your 40s and 50s like me.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: Figure it out so much earlier and those genetics are strong.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean my birth father made the software for fingerprint profiling.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: When you have your fingerprints run in America that's his software I didn't meet him until I was 54.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: I was knee deep in my eye reading by the time I met him right my birth mother and I worked for the same company at the same age sat at the same desk at least once even though it was three hours away from where either one of us grew up right and so it's I mean those genetics are stronger than we think they are and we're having these experiences and we don't realize okay if I've got 4,000 ancestors they've got how many hundred thousand if not million prodigy and I'm interacting with someone who's my cousin and I just don't even know it.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: It gives us such an opportunity to be more compassionate with others to say I don't know who I'm related to I don't know who I'm not related to and we're all just humans trying to do our best yeah I that I think resonates with me so much so because there's so much divisiveness in the world like such an emphasis on differences and you know people longing to belong and to feel like they're part of a group and when you start to look at this you see that the connections are so much bigger than the division.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah absolutely absolutely and it's just such a great opportunity to bring this information to the world I mean I feel like you know like I said right now what the report brings you and it's you know 60 pages but it brings you your gifts your talents you know your origin what did your ancestors load you up with as far as the good stuff goes right and just to get people started with that base to say wow I come from you know some people will say oh my ancestors they were all broke they were all a bunch of drunks you know I hear this stuff all the time and I'm like you don't know who 4,000 ancestors even Harry and William couldn't say exactly who their 4,000 are right I mean we don't know and so when you need something you're having a struggle with finances or whatever reach out to those ancestors and say you know hey I'm gonna bind got some ideas got some tips got some blessings to send my way right I mean yeah it's we just have this opportunity to really I mean that's the Ancestors within book series is all 101 ways to create interactive experiences with your ancestors right I mean it's 101 chapters of of here's how you can connect one gal went out and gathered dirt from the land of each of her ancestors brought it all home and planted a family tree.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: Hmm you know she went to she didn't get as far as like Ireland whatever but she had she had cousins from other countries even sending in the dirt just a little bit of dirt and planting the family tree.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean there's so many beautiful things you can do whether you know who your ancestors are or not you know they're they're back there cheering you on all day long.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: They're inside of you because when you win they win wow we got published for the first time right we got a television show we got a podcast you know and that's why when people take their iPhotos we say your ancestors waited your whole life for this moment because you will see their images in your eyes.
36:45
SPEAKER_01: Yes and that oh my gosh talk about geeking out like being able to actually see the shadows and the and the images that come forward um for me just the the amount of feminine energy that was coming through um and that and then you can kind of like feel into that and like does that resonate?
37:08
SPEAKER_01: Yes that definitely resonates I've always felt this you know kinship and um female ancestral support and hope for like are you gonna be the one who's going to help us break these patterns and heal um and I love that you bring it down to those 4,000 ancestors and how much you're capable.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: And I know there's tools too in some of those chapters where you can kind of take yourself back through and meet some of those ancestors and allow them to have influence in the sense that they they give you the empowerment to move forward and heal and it can become something that is accessible and simple and doesn't have to be a hardfelt journey.
38:03
SPEAKER_01: It can be something as simple as just shifting your mindset or your language.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: And also there's some so many gifts that have been lost over the over the years um skill sets that have been lost and you might be the one carrier right you might be the one who has that coded within you to bring it back you know bring it back to the world.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: And you know just in case you want to geek out a little more we're actually right now I mean outside of the app we're working a little bit on um galactic origin and how that shows up in the eyes you know which starseed kind of thing and and there's actually quite a bit of information about that.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: So it's it's got so many places to go yet.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: That that to me is super fascinating.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm ready for that one too I would like to know all the places.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: And I think again it just it makes things super expansive but also super intimate to to really feel like you have a very special design and there's a really special purpose for you to be here and we all have those unique expressions that we can be using in life.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: We were laughing because on one of my eyes there was literally a Z like like a Z for sleep.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: I was like this is what I was meant to be empowering people about sleep.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: It's in my eye it's so true.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: And you know I mean any of those people who do cirque de sole any of those high powered athletes you'll see the athletic prowess in their ancestral images in their eyes.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: I see people all the time who are in dance poses or ballet or trapeze or something of that nature.
39:37
SPEAKER_00: And you'll just ask them who's who's the slack liner in the family and they're like oh yeah that's me you know or I I did gymnastics for many years, you know, kind of thing.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: They they love to show those gifts and talents especially the ones that are yours to bring forward in this lifetime.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: So I mean you would think me having heterochromia would have been the you know the impetus for me getting into this work but it really wasn't.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: But in the end, what's the blueprint?
40:02
SPEAKER_00: You know I have some of the most rare eyes you're going to find on our planet with having not only a brown eye and a blue eye but the top of my brown eye having a blue wedge which actually shows where someone's made a sharp hemisphere brain shift from one to the other from their dominant brain to their to their non-dominant or back.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: And so um it winds up being the calling card our eyes are always our calling card.
40:26
SPEAKER_01: I I love that so much.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: I enjoy geeking out on this and I'm sure there are people listening who are saying oh my gosh I need to know more about this so where can people find you?
40:39
SPEAKER_01: Tell us about the app and then um what do you have coming up that people can come and find you and meet you and see all of the things that you're doing.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: So the app is myiorigin and it's on Apple and on Google.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: They can find it both places and the website is myeorigin.com now it's all built on Irogenics which was my origin my uh my original company so they can also buy me at irogenics.com but my iorigin will take them right over um coming up march 30th I'm not sure if we'll air before March 30th but March 30th I will be at Pathways at Tyson's Corners in Washington DC area and I'm doing a workshop there where I'm gonna have everybody doing the app, getting their iPhotos and doing some book signing and I'll probably be doing some brief readings um there.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be at Edgar Casey's Association for Research and Enlightenment in Virginia Beach April 12th Dulles in December but we'll we'll have my schedule up on the My IOrigin site so that everybody can see the upcoming locations.
41:43
SPEAKER_00: And most exciting the app next month in April is going to be in the cover awards the Coalition of Visionary Resources and so the trophies behind are from the from the covers and um so really hoping to bring home an award with the with the app because I think it's just a great way to get the world to find out about their eyes and their ancestors.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: It's just such an exciting exciting thing.
42:07
SPEAKER_01: So yeah and perfect for those of you who like to geek out on the science and spirituality of things.
42:16
SPEAKER_01: I want to thank you so much Amy for the work that you're doing and the path that you're paving.
42:21
SPEAKER_01: And like you said we we have no idea how explosive the technology is going to be I mean just from 2011 to 2025 is a huge leap you know in the next 10, 20, 50 years, who knows?
42:37
SPEAKER_01: But I know your ancestors are grateful that you took those steps and that you continue to move forward.
42:44
SPEAKER_01: And there's so much potential for healing.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna encourage everybody to go check out the app.
42:51
SPEAKER_01: You will not be disappointed and getting that report and either confirming or giving you some new fun information about yourself is always a great path to understanding your journey why you're here and how you can really serve the planet.
43:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah and the app is free.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: So by all means jump in and do it take a look at those eyes and get at least that short report for free because it's it's just an amazing world to look in your eyes and see what your ancestors have waited your whole life for you to see.
43:21
SPEAKER_01: So get ready to geek out on that everybody and I want you to come back and tell us what you found and share your exciting journey with the app.
43:32
SPEAKER_01: Amy I hope you will come back and tell me more about what's happening for you and give us some more hints and pointers for taking our pictures and figuring out how to really take that information and move forward with it.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: But I just want to thank you continue doing this work and I'll continue to geek out on it.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Kelly it's been such a delight to be here I love your show I love your geekiness we are like geek sisters.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: I love it absolutely we were supposed to be connected I feel that in my heart all right everyone thanks for being here check us out next time and remember stay curious.
44:11
SPEAKER_01: Bye for now