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Mix 106.3's Real Estate Show - 22/08/26 · The Real Estate Show

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  Speaker 1: Cameron Renee's Real Estate show on Mix one O six
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  Speaker 1: point three Step into Stylish, Low Maintenance Living in Canberra's
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  Speaker 1: Inner North to Berk by JW.
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  Speaker 2: Land.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we had another great show for the Mixed one
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  Speaker 3: oh six point three Real Estate Show and so it's
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  Speaker 3: time for another podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed thanks to JW Land. And of course it's
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a tricky market at the moments. A
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  Speaker 2: Steve Low, director of agent Team Cambra, joined us with
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  Speaker 2: another really interesting discussion under the heading of how do
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  Speaker 2: you time the bottom of the market and he.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of talked about what that meant and some of
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  Speaker 3: the potential dangers in that space.
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  Speaker 4: That was a really interesting chat.
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  Speaker 2: I love talking about decks and pergolas in the show too.
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  Speaker 3: On Saturday, Yeah, for sure, we had Xavier Duffy, director
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  Speaker 3: at act.
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  Speaker 4: Deck, were talking about trends that he's seeing.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously we're heading into the warmer months, people are thinking
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  Speaker 3: about forgola's decks and getting new ones, fixing up current
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  Speaker 3: ones and that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 4: So we spoke about some of the trends and some of.
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  Speaker 2: His experience and if you have an opinion on real
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  Speaker 2: wood versus the composite decking that happens at the moment. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: be sure to have a listen to that conversation one.
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  Speaker 4: Hundred percent and something really cool.
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  Speaker 3: We also explored Master Builders Act have launched a new
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  Speaker 3: Junior Builder program.
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  Speaker 4: Kids from super.
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  Speaker 3: Young can get involved and it's to help you get
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  Speaker 3: more young people into destruction because we know there's not
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  Speaker 3: enough workers in this space.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, so THEO the Master Builders Act and Aniela Gama
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  Speaker 2: spoke to us, and she spoke. She did a really
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  Speaker 2: good job of explaining that it's not just about making stuff,
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  Speaker 2: it's about all the things that go around that on
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  Speaker 2: the construction site.
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  Speaker 5: Yeap.
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  Speaker 3: When everything you learn, it's a great experience. It's coming
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  Speaker 3: up for these upcoming school holidays as well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the podcast today for you to have
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  Speaker 2: a listen to. Just before we get to all that,
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  Speaker 2: let's do this mix one O six point three's property
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we're asking the question this morning, how do you
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  Speaker 3: time the bottom of the market?
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  Speaker 4: What does that actually mean? And why are we talking
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  Speaker 4: about it? Should we be talking about it?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Steve low is a director and agent Team Canberra, to
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  Speaker 3: tell us more about it.
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  Speaker 4: Steve, good morning, Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Now, look when you say time the bottom of the market,
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  Speaker 3: what does that actually mean?
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  Speaker 6: So timing the bottom of the market is a lot
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  Speaker 6: of buyers trying to just wait to buy until the prices,
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  Speaker 6: the property prices hit the very very bottom of the market.
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  Speaker 6: And so it's a bit of an art to it.
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  Speaker 6: Not many people get right. But we are currently going
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  Speaker 6: through Canberra's second sharpest decline in prices post.
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  Speaker 3: COVID okay, and so how do you kind of manage
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  Speaker 3: that and work all that out?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you've got to look the first things, like at
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  Speaker 6: the moment our open homes, there's not a huge amount
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  Speaker 6: of buyers coming through the open homes. And as the
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  Speaker 6: market starts to turn and come back up, you'll start
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  Speaker 6: to see a lot more participation at auctions, a lot
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  Speaker 6: more people coming through the open homes. You'll start to
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  Speaker 6: see the days on market start to come down to
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  Speaker 6: under thirty. And you've started to see the auction clearance
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  Speaker 6: rates go back up to around sixty percent. If you're
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  Speaker 6: seeing all those signs, it means that you've probably missed
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  Speaker 6: the bottom of the market because the market's on the
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  Speaker 6: rise again.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, And so as you make all these judgment decisions,
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  Speaker 2: what are some of the things that you should avoid
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  Speaker 2: doing when you're thinking about.
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  Speaker 6: This probably overthinking it, like the thing that property has.
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  Speaker 6: We are pretty much all aware it's not time in
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  Speaker 6: the market. It is time a time in the market.
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  Speaker 6: So you've got to sort of hold this property to
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  Speaker 6: get the value out of it over as long, like
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  Speaker 6: over a five to seven ten year period. You can't
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  Speaker 6: really expect to buy it now and then turn it
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  Speaker 6: around in twelve months and sell it for a huge
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  Speaker 6: profit after all the fees and stuff. So I think
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  Speaker 6: just getting in and getting it done, it's a really
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  Speaker 6: good opportunity to buy right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. And what should people avoid doing in this space.
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  Speaker 6: Sitting on the sidelines just waiting because I'll see the
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  Speaker 6: opportunity pass and buy and all of a sudden they've
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  Speaker 6: missed the bottom of the market and they're paying twenty
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  Speaker 6: or thirty or even fifty thousand dollars more than they
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  Speaker 6: could have or should have three or four weeks ago.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, what about the sellers.
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  Speaker 6: Really depends on the sell the situation, and every one
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  Speaker 6: of those is different. Like, if you're buying and selling
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  Speaker 6: in the same market, it doesn't really matter too much
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  Speaker 6: because your change over cost is goin to stay the same.
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  Speaker 6: But if you're trying to sell in Canberra because you
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  Speaker 6: want to move elsewhere or maybe move into retirement villages,
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  Speaker 6: it might not be the very best time to sell
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  Speaker 6: at the bottom of the market, of course, so you
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  Speaker 6: might start to look for those telltale signs and advice
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  Speaker 6: from your agent as to the best time to sell
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  Speaker 6: for you.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, And what's the number one mistake that you've seen
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  Speaker 4: people make? Here?
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  Speaker 6: We see it like you know, when COVID first it
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  Speaker 6: was announced, when we started those lockdowns, we saw a
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  Speaker 6: lot of panic sales that the market declined really really quickly,
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  Speaker 6: and people just sold off because weren't sure it's going
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  Speaker 6: to happen, and all of a sudden it just bounced
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  Speaker 6: right back and then like a lot of people missed
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  Speaker 6: that opportunity. So I guess the advice here is this
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  Speaker 6: is a big opportunity if you look back in two
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  Speaker 6: or three years from today, see the prices, it was
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  Speaker 6: a really good time to buy, and you'll be potentially
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  Speaker 6: regretting it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, a lot of food for thought
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  Speaker 3: out for their people listening.
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  Speaker 4: Steve, thank you so much for sharing that with us
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  Speaker 4: this morning.
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  Speaker 6: Problem.
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  Speaker 4: She is Steve Loow, who's a director of Agent Team.
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  Speaker 4: Canbra there, Wellkem, it.
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  Speaker 3: Feels sort of like spring is kind of inching closer.
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  Speaker 4: It's on the horizon.
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  Speaker 3: It's on the horizon, and you know, with the weather
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  Speaker 3: sort of slowly but surely warming up a little bit
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  Speaker 3: against people thinking about, okay, what do.
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  Speaker 4: We need for summer the warm of months, how do
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  Speaker 4: we get our home.
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  Speaker 2: Ready Saturday morning at Bunnings.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, of course it just goes nuts, absolutely And one
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  Speaker 3: of the key things there are decks and pergolas, making
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  Speaker 3: sure that they're up to scratch or you might want
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  Speaker 3: to build a new one or whatever it is to
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  Speaker 3: get ready for summer. So we're going to ask what
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  Speaker 3: deck and pergola designs are trending for this coming summer.
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  Speaker 3: And Xavier Duffy is director at act Dex.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Xavier, going good now, Low, can you tell us.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any particular new trend that you're seeing when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to designing and building per goalas Yeah, look.
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  Speaker 7: A littleid roofs at the moment are really really popular.
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  Speaker 5: I think the ability to open and close and control
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  Speaker 5: the sun's been i think really important to people and
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  Speaker 5: like that outdoor living has really, I guess been important
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  Speaker 5: in that and it's an extension of your loundry essentially
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  Speaker 5: in getting outside.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and so these are the roofs that, as you say,
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  Speaker 2: they open and close and they're getting sort of the
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  Speaker 2: tech behind it. It gets better and better every time
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  Speaker 2: where you just hit a button and it all happens again.
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  Speaker 4: Is that right, Xavier, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: They look they have a rain censor on them, so
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  Speaker 5: it starts to round and you forget to close it,
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  Speaker 5: it will close itself.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, the tech is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so cool. And what about decking? Is there
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  Speaker 3: an emerging trend there?
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  Speaker 7: There is?
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  Speaker 5: Composite decking is taking over the low maintenance. With composite decking,
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  Speaker 5: I think no one really.
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  Speaker 7: Wants to oil their deck anymore.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's now about enjoying the backyard and you
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  Speaker 5: put composite down you, they have to think about it again.
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  Speaker 5: They've got really good warranties as well, and there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of different ones on the market at the moment too.
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  Speaker 2: So Renee and I are sitting here smiling at each other.
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  Speaker 2: Right before we brought you on here, I said to Renee,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I think I'm going to ask him about
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  Speaker 2: his view on traditional timber versus the composite, because I've
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  Speaker 2: got traditional timber both in our old place at Camber
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  Speaker 2: and where we are now, our new place, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy I've got a lot less decking to oil and
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  Speaker 2: it's really really special. But Eavier and you will have
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  Speaker 2: heard this a million times, no doubt. If you've got
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  Speaker 2: a large area of decking that you have to oil
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  Speaker 2: and it's exposed to the sun, that's a mission, isn't
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  Speaker 2: it work?
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  Speaker 7: It is.
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  Speaker 5: It is a mission, and it's a costly maintenance event
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  Speaker 5: that happens sort of every twelve months if you want
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  Speaker 5: it to be looking pristine.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, you don't want that headache, you can go
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  Speaker 7: to composite.
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  Speaker 5: Look, being a carpenter, I do love the hardwoods and timber,
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  Speaker 5: but it's really difficult when we've all got busy lives
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  Speaker 5: at the moment to make your home loook amazing.
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  Speaker 7: All the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and you've kind of already alluded to this, But
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  Speaker 3: what's the number one thing people are looking for when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to designing pergolas and decks? Is it that
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  Speaker 3: kind of ease not having to about stuff?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a little bit about low maintenance, but
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  Speaker 5: it's about how you're living out there, I think is
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  Speaker 5: the most important thing.
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  Speaker 7: You Know. Outdoor kitchens are really really becoming popular. I
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  Speaker 7: think a lot of people are.
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  Speaker 5: Utilizing the space that they've got and cooking outside save
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  Speaker 5: the washing up types of things.
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  Speaker 7: So I think, yeah, outdoor kitchens as well are being
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  Speaker 7: really popular.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not only that, right, So if you go
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  Speaker 2: if you go all in on an outdoor kitchen, that's
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  Speaker 2: very very expensive, and you want to have it protected.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have that exposed to the elements exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Well, you need to be you want to be
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  Speaker 5: utilizing it all the time, So having a bit of
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  Speaker 5: protection over there, you definitely need that for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And is there anything you know really special or
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  Speaker 3: cool that you're working on now or that you've recently
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  Speaker 3: been working on.
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  Speaker 5: We just finished off a project in Deacon and it
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  Speaker 5: had the absolute works in it, from a workshop to
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  Speaker 5: a big pool, to levi and roofs to counter leave
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  Speaker 5: it roofs. It was amazing projects. And yeah, it was
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  Speaker 5: really happy to finish that one.
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  Speaker 7: Off of it that there's come out fantastic, So yeah,
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  Speaker 7: that's the one that comes to mind. And the charger
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  Speaker 7: for the electric car out the front as well, so yeah,
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  Speaker 7: it was really cool.
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  Speaker 2: You must have those sorts of projects once it's done,
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  Speaker 2: because there's always like lots of little speed bumps along
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  Speaker 2: the way. You must stand back and look at that
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  Speaker 2: when it's special and just go man, that was amazing
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  Speaker 2: to work on.
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  Speaker 7: Definitely, definitely.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think that, you know, seeing the hard
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  Speaker 5: work that's been put in for months and months and
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  Speaker 5: months on a big project like that, and then you
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  Speaker 5: sort of step back and then the client tells you
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  Speaker 5: how they how they're utilizing it, how they love driving
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  Speaker 5: in under their new little sort of carpool where the
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  Speaker 5: lights turn on automatically for them.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's buddy awesome.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds very fancy, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, well, that was great, Thank you Xavier for
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  Speaker 3: sharing that with us. Really interesting and I'm have a
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  Speaker 3: great weekend too.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for a Thanks Cam, have a great one.
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  Speaker 4: Cheers, guys, cheers, thank you. Xavier Duffy, who's a director
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  Speaker 4: at ACT decks.
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  Speaker 3: Well Cam Master build as ACT has launched a really
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  Speaker 3: cool initiative and when we saw this, we were.
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  Speaker 4: Like, oh, we've got to explore more of what this
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  Speaker 4: is about.
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  Speaker 3: And it's about getting young people into construction because we
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  Speaker 3: know that we don't have enough construction workers, and so
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  Speaker 3: there's a program to target exactly this. And Anna Nilagama
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  Speaker 3: is CEO of Master Builders ACT and a good morning.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning guys, great to be here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: Now tell us about the Junior Builders program and what
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  Speaker 3: it aims to achieve.
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  Speaker 8: Is thanks you. We're really excited about this one. Junior
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  Speaker 8: Builders is a new school holiday program for six to
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  Speaker 8: fifteen year olds to give them a bit of a
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  Speaker 8: taste of what life would be like as a construction
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  Speaker 8: worker generally, but as a carpenter in particular.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, And so I mean six is quite young,
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  Speaker 2: because that's almost progressing from plastic hammers into the real thing,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it.
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  Speaker 8: It's absolutely so. Obviously, the safety planning and control of
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  Speaker 8: course has been done really carefully, so I want to
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  Speaker 8: ensure parents out there of that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're not detaining a nail gun to a
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  Speaker 2: six year old.
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  Speaker 6: Are you.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely not. But it's amazing what you can do. And
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  Speaker 8: the program's broken up into little chunks, so kids actually
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  Speaker 8: get to build something for themselves across the days, or
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  Speaker 8: if they're only coming for one half day, and they're
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  Speaker 8: things like toolboxes, birdhouses, dollhouses, cutting boards, planter boxes, and
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  Speaker 8: even a paper and a stepping stone. So it's really
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  Speaker 8: cool and kids will actually get to take those home
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  Speaker 8: with them.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, not only do they get
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  Speaker 2: to build this and design it and work on it
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  Speaker 2: and think about it, they've got something at the end
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  Speaker 2: that they can take home to their loved ones.
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  Speaker 7: So good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's excellent and I love that you guys are
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  Speaker 3: getting kids involved in this. Is it hard to attract
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  Speaker 3: younger people into you know, building trades.
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  Speaker 8: It absolutely is, and there's a few barriers to that.
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  Speaker 8: One kids have had no exposure to construction. So that's
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  Speaker 8: exactly why in school holidays, at younger ages, at that
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  Speaker 8: kind of pre pre workforce age, it's important to give
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  Speaker 8: them a bit of a taste of what are hands
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  Speaker 8: on drop looks like, because a lot of people really
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  Speaker 8: enjoy it to their surprise. And the second thing is
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  Speaker 8: to educate parents, because parents are often the biggest barrier
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  Speaker 8: to kids taking on board and apprenticeship. So I guess
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  Speaker 8: for us, if they can see their children engaging in
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  Speaker 8: this great program, coming into master builders, understanding what that
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  Speaker 8: learning environment's like, understanding what the industry is like, that's
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  Speaker 8: really really important for us.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess from what it sounds like, they're not
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  Speaker 3: just learning construction skills. You're getting them outside, You're getting
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  Speaker 3: them to work with other people. You're getting them you know,
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  Speaker 3: like there's a whole range of skills that they'll build
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  Speaker 3: from this as well, not just you know, the building
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  Speaker 3: side of it.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely, they're involved in like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're involved in safety planning, they have to mark
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  Speaker 8: out little walkways, they sort of set up their learning
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  Speaker 8: environments so it's the same as you would on the work.
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  Speaker 8: So it's really getting them thinking about I guess the
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  Speaker 8: whole project delivery, if you like, which is the real
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  Speaker 8: skill of construction?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And funny, I'll be super quick when I tell
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  Speaker 3: you this story. My five year old willow. She's not
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  Speaker 3: quite odd enough to join your program yet. But is
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  Speaker 3: it a trowel like a little shovel. It's more of
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  Speaker 3: a gardening thing. That her nan got her a trow
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  Speaker 3: for her birthday because she loves doing all that stuff outside.
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  Speaker 4: Now she's digging, and you know, like it's just.
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  Speaker 3: So cool to get them their hands dirty and working.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 2: The next thing you need to give her though, the
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  Speaker 2: doll before you dig telephone number. Oh yeah, because the
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  Speaker 2: trowel then gets into shovels.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. Trouble totally.
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  Speaker 3: And when where can we learn more about this Junior
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  Speaker 3: Builders program?
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  Speaker 8: Just NBA dot org, dot a u slash training or
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  Speaker 8: you can just give us a buzz thirteen hundred NBA ACT.
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  Speaker 8: So this will be running for the first time ever
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  Speaker 8: in the September school holidays.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, people definitely need to sign their kids up
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  Speaker 3: because it's so good and I thank you, I'm so
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  Speaker 3: much for sharing that with us.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you guys, have a great morning, you.
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  Speaker 4: Too, see you later.
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  Speaker 3: And Anila, who's CEO of Master Builder's ACT their Junior
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  Speaker 3: Builder program.
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  Speaker 4: How cool?
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  Speaker 2: If you love hearing about the latest trends, or you're
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