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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:05So Joe Rogan once again is saying the quiet part
- 0:08out loud about Bill Clinton and his pal Jeffrey Epstein. Now,
- 0:12I know a lot of people don't like to talk
- 0:14about this because you know, he's one of the faves
- 0:17and all. But the fact is, Bill Clinton and Jeffrey
- 0:20Epstein we're way closer than a lot of people want
- 0:23to admit. And I'm old enough to remember how crazy
- 0:26everybody went over alex Acosta. Meanwhile, those same people have
- 0:31nothing to say about Bill Clinton. Makes you wonder, doesn't it.
- 0:35But I'll leave the hypocrites up to their own devices here.
- 0:38We'll continue doing what we've always done, eviscerated anybody who
- 0:42was paling around with Jeffrey Epstein, and I don't care
- 0:46what political party they rock with. Today's article is from
- 0:50the Deli Mail headline Joe Rogan suggests Bill Clinton was
- 0:54blackmail by Jeffrey Epstein over twenty six trips on pedophile's
- 0:58private plane and claims infamous painting of President in blue
- 1:03dress is billionaire saying I got you, bitch. This article
- 1:08was authored by Andrea Cavalier, podcaster Joe Rogan has suggested
- 1:14that Jeffrey Epstein was blackmailing Bill Clinton by displaying a
- 1:18massive painting of the former president wearing a dress in
- 1:22his New York home. In a recent episode of The
- 1:25Joe Rogan Experience, Rogan brought up the painting, first revealed
- 1:29by Daily Mail dot Com in twenty eighteen, that hung
- 1:33in the foyer of Epstein's Manhattan apartment before he was
- 1:37found dead by suicide, allegedly in a jail cell after
- 1:40being accused of running a sex trafficking ring for underage girls.
- 1:45And let's not even talk about the flights on the plane. Okay, Fine,
- 1:49he was on the plane. Great. You know what really
- 1:52gets me going the fact that Jeffrey Epstein went to
- 1:55the White House over seventeen times. We're gonna talk about that. Ever,
- 2:00What the hell was he doing at the White House
- 2:01seventeen times? Why was Jeffrey Epstein paling around with the
- 2:05President of the United States seventeen different times at the
- 2:10White House? Anybody going to explain that. Flight logs have
- 2:13shown that Clinton was aboard the financiers Pedophiles Boeing seven
- 2:18to twenty seven jet a total of twenty six times
- 2:21between two thousand and one and two thousand and three,
- 2:25Clinton has denied being on Epstein's pedophile island Little Saint James,
- 2:29and this spokesperson angel Arena, said the former president knows
- 2:34nothing about Epstein's terrible crimes. The problem with all of
- 2:37that is everything angel Urana said in that KANDAZ statement
- 2:42back in the day that they haven't updated, by the way,
- 2:45is basically a lie. How many more times do we
- 2:48need to hear people in court or under oath say
- 2:51that Bill Clinton was on the plane or on the island,
- 2:54because you know, Bill Clinton is the pinnacle of truth, right,
- 2:58old salt and Earth kind of guy that's never told
- 3:00the lie in his life. The painting depicting Clinton lounging
- 3:04on a chair in the Oval office, wearing red heels
- 3:07and posing suggestively in a blue dress redolent of Monica Lewinsky,
- 3:13was in a room off the stairway of the Upper
- 3:15east Side townhouse. That painting is like I got you, bitch,
- 3:20Rogan said about Epstein keeping that painting in his home, adding,
- 3:24you know he knows about it. And let's not forget
- 3:28how much money Jeffrey Epstein gave to Bill Clinton to
- 3:31get Bill Clinton's foundation off the ground. And I know
- 3:35some people out there are like, yeah, right, that never happened. Well,
- 3:38like usual, I show up with receipts. From an article
- 3:41in Yahoo that was originally published in twenty nineteen, author
- 3:46Jack Crow writes mister Epstein was part of the original
- 3:50group that conceived the Clinton Global Initiative, which is described
- 3:54as a project bringing together a community of global leaders
- 3:58to devise and implement in a solutions to some of
- 4:01the world's most pressing challenges. Attorneys Alan Dershowitz and Gerald
- 4:06Lefcourt wrote in the letter, which was first reported by
- 4:09Fox News in twenty sixteen. So that's not me telling
- 4:14you that. That's his own lawyer's telling you that, Alan
- 4:16Dershowitz telling you that. But please tell me a little
- 4:19bit more about middle manager alex Acosta. Rogan continued, Imagine
- 4:25if I knew some horrible, dark secrets about you, and
- 4:28you came over to my house and I have a
- 4:30giant painting of you right when you walk into the
- 4:32front door, of you in address, and I'm like, hey, buddy,
- 4:36and I've said that from the beginning. What's the purpose
- 4:39of having that sort of painting on the wall. I
- 4:41know people want to joke about it, and you know
- 4:44that's fine. There are a million jokes to be made.
- 4:47But the implications of what it really means it's pretty
- 4:50serious and not for nothing. But flip the script real quick.
- 4:53Imagine if that was Trump in address on Jeffrey Epstein's wall,
- 4:57do you think the legacy media would be giving him
- 4:59a pass? That's all I'm asking for here, folks, a
- 5:01little consistency. It doesn't matter who you are. If you
- 5:05were hanging around Epstein, you were helping him refurbish his image,
- 5:09you were taking part in his crimes. You need to
- 5:12be eviscerated. And all of these so called advocates out here,
- 5:15all of these people who say that they care about
- 5:18what happened in the Epstein case, who completely ignore Bill Clinton,
- 5:22well they don't care. All they're looking to do is
- 5:25score some political points in hopes that they're shitty elected
- 5:28politicians can hold onto power. Clinton spokesperson confirmed that in
- 5:33two thousand and two and two thousand and three, the
- 5:36former president took four trips on the pedophile's private plane
- 5:41with multiple stops, and that staff end to Secret Service
- 5:45detail traveled on every leg and It's amazing to me
- 5:48that the legacy media lets Angel Arena get away with
- 5:52this shit. This dude's telling you lies, straight up, point
- 5:55blank period lies that has been documented in the trial
- 5:59of Glen Maxwell and in all of these different depositions
- 6:03that have been unsealed. And on the flip side of that,
- 6:06all we have is the word of Bill Clinton and
- 6:09Angel Arena really, and that's what people are going to believe.
- 6:13Oh yeah, Well, Angel Lorena said that Bill Clinton was
- 6:16never there, So he was never there, talk about cognitive dissonance.
- 6:22One of Epstein's survivors, Virginia Roberts, claimed she saw Clinton
- 6:26on the island for a dinner held in his honor
- 6:28shortly after he left office, and she stood by that
- 6:31claim when questioned under oath. So has Angel Arena been
- 6:35questioned under oath? How about Bill Clinton? Okay, I'm going
- 6:38to go with the people who were questioned under oath.
- 6:42The original painting is called Parsing Bill and is by
- 6:46Australian American artist Patrina Ryan Clyde. Although it is unclear
- 6:51if Epstein had bought the canvas or had a print mounted,
- 6:55Ryan Clyde had the picture as an exhibit for her
- 6:59degree show when she graduated with an MFA in twenty
- 7:03twelve from the New York Academy of Art. And we've
- 7:06talked about the New York Academy of Art before at length,
- 7:10and how they helped out with Epstein, the whole Maria
- 7:13Farmer story. And it's crazy how many connections Epstein had
- 7:17to the New York Academy of Art, another topic hardly
- 7:21explored by the legacy media. By the way, the painting
- 7:25was secretly snapped inside his lavish, fifty six million dollar
- 7:29home in October twenty twelve, four years after Epstein completed
- 7:34his sweetheart deal for prostitution of a minor and seven
- 7:37years before he was accused of running a sex trafficking
- 7:40ring of underage girls. The source, who asked to remain anonymous,
- 7:45was visiting Epstein to present a business proposal. Imagine showing
- 7:49up to somebody's house and seeing that picture on the
- 7:52wall and all of the other weird ass decor. I'd
- 7:55be turning right around and walking out of that house.
- 7:58Business proposal be damned. I don't want to be in
- 8:00business with somebody like this, ever, she told Deli Mail
- 8:04TV at the time. It was absolutely Bill Clinton. It
- 8:08was shocking. It was definitely a painting of him. It
- 8:11was very provocative sexual picture. He was wearing heels, a
- 8:15blue dress, and his hand was in a weird position.
- 8:18The color of the dress seemed to be pointed reference
- 8:21to Clinton's former intern Monica Lewinsky, who had a blue
- 8:25dress during their infamous sexual encounter in the White House.
- 8:29The dress is also strikingly similar to one worn by
- 8:32Hillary Clinton at the two thousand and nine Kennedy Center Honors.
- 8:37And it looks way more like the Clinton dress to
- 8:39me than the Monica Lewinsky one, And that too, in
- 8:43my opinion, was by design some people. Just as his
- 8:46legs crossed over the arm of a chair with blood
- 8:48red heels, hovering over a rug that seems to bear
- 8:52the presidential seal, The shoulder of the blue dress hangs
- 8:56off to the side as Clinton seems to point a
- 8:59finger towards Ward's the viewer. That image is apparently inspired
- 9:03by the famous image of Uncle Sam used in James
- 9:06Montgomery Flag's World War One recruiting poster boy That's Nice. Hunh.
- 9:12The source that spotted the painting said she saw it
- 9:15while being led from the office to his personal quarters.
- 9:18When we saw the portrait, it was through the door
- 9:21that had been left temporarily opened by his housekeeper or
- 9:24his butler. I thought, why in the world would Epstein
- 9:28have that up. I didn't even know that they knew
- 9:30each other. Although she was stunned by the painting, her
- 9:34business partner managed to take a snap of the painting.
- 9:37She said, he took a picture. I was mortified because
- 9:40there were cameras everywhere, again another person confirming that Epstein's
- 9:45pad was wired up for surveillance. The source added that
- 9:49she was inside Epstein's home for around an hour and
- 9:52a half for the meeting, which had been arranged by
- 9:55his then assistant Leslie Groff. The blonde was named as
- 9:59a possible a pomplice and granted immunity in Epstein's controversial
- 10:04plea deal in two thousand and eight. She's part of
- 10:06the Corps four and how leslie Groff was able to
- 10:09avoid all of this is pretty amazing. But like they
- 10:12said here, the non prosecution deal that Epstein scored protected
- 10:16the whole entire Core four from prosecution. It also protected
- 10:20Endyke and Cohn. Epstein committed suicide allegedly at age sixty six,
- 10:26in August of twenty nineteen in a Manhattan jail cell
- 10:30while awaiting trial for sex trafficking. Last month, the US
- 10:34government urged an appeals court the uphold Glenn Maxwell's conviction
- 10:38and twenty year prison sentence for helping the disgraced pedophile
- 10:42sexually abused teenage girls. Maxwell, sixty one, is behind bars
- 10:47in Tallahassee, Florida, after a Manhattan jerry convicted her in
- 10:51December twenty twenty one on five charges for recruiting and
- 10:55grooming four girls for Epstein to abuse between nineteen ninety
- 10:59four and two thousand and four. Her accusers have said
- 11:03she and Epstein at first made them feel welcome in
- 11:07their orbit, before Epstein began demanding sexualized massages. Hundreds of
- 11:12women have said he abused them. In her appeal, Maxwell,
- 11:16daughter of late British medio mogul Robert Maxwell, accused prosecutors
- 11:21of making her a scapegoat because Epstein was dead and
- 11:24public outrage demanded that someone else absorbed the blame. So ridiculous.
- 11:29All she did was get what she deserved. She played
- 11:32her part, and now she's getting her just deserts. Prosecutors
- 11:36rejected her claims that they waited too long to bring charges,
- 11:40and that Epstein's two thousand and seven non prosecution agreement
- 11:43arising from alleged abuse at his Palm Beach, Florida mansion
- 11:47also immunized her. They also said the trial judge had
- 11:51discretion to conclude that Maxwell's jury was fair and impartial,
- 11:56though one juror failed to disclose during pre trial questioning
- 12:00that he had been sexually abused as a child. Maxwell
- 12:04is eligible for release in July of twenty thirty seven,
- 12:07with credit for good behavior and the two years she
- 12:10spent in jail before being imprisoned. She should be in
- 12:14prison for the rest of her life for what she did.
- 12:17She got off light. I know she doesn't believe that,
- 12:20but she got off light. Others who were friendly with
- 12:23Epstein have seen their reputations tarred or ruined. Among them
- 12:28Britain's Prince Andrew and former JP Morgan, Chase executive and
- 12:32Barclay's chief executive Jess Staley. JP Morgan and Deutsche Bank,
- 12:37which both had Epstein as a client, are paying a
- 12:40combined three hundred and sixty five million dollars to Epstein's
- 12:44accusers over their work for him. The US Virgin Islands,
- 12:48where Epstein had a home, is also suing JP Morgan.
- 12:51And that's not even the half of it. There's so
- 12:53many people that were tied to this guy that should
- 12:56be having their reputations blown up that aren't even being
- 12:59talked about that it would make your head spin. But
- 13:02here we are, all these years later, and the legacy
- 13:04media is still providing cover for all of Jeffrey Epstein's buddies.
- 13:09All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this one.
- 13:11All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 13:14be found in the description box article today from uprocks
- 13:18dot com, and it is about Adam. About Adam Perry
- 13:25Lang's appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience, the headline Joe
- 13:31Rogan's most recent podcast guest, and the lack of questions
- 13:35about his past have raised some eyebrows. The author of
- 13:38this piece from uprocks is Zach Johnston. If you follow
- 13:43the Joe Rogan Experience, even in a passive way, you'll
- 13:47know how often the mysterious death of Jeffrey Epstein comes up.
- 13:50For sure, I pretty much religiously listened to Joe Rogan's
- 13:54podcast while I'm hiking and climbing and on adventures, and
- 13:58he talks about Epstein all the time. And for the
- 14:01most part, Rogan's awesome. I would say ninety nine point
- 14:05five percent of the time. Rogan is just incredible with
- 14:08the way he formats a show and how he goes
- 14:11about his business. But in this case, I really think
- 14:14that he missed a solid chance here to really really
- 14:19dig in and get some answers from the chef. You
- 14:24can simply google Joe Rogan Experience Jeffrey Epstein, and pages
- 14:28of clips of Rogan and different guests spanning dozens of
- 14:32episodes will pop up. If you listen to Rogan a
- 14:35little more closely, you'll also know whenever Epstein does come up,
- 14:39the infamous Lolita Express comes up too, Epstein's private plane.
- 14:44Rogan usually brings up brings it up in relation to
- 14:47former President Bill Clinton by saying, while emphasizing every single
- 14:51syllable Bill Clinton wrote on the Lolita Express no less
- 14:55than twenty six times, Well, yeah, why shouldn't he bring
- 14:58that up. It's like the author of this this article
- 15:00is mad that he would bring up Bill Clinton. I
- 15:02don't understand. I just don't understand what the whole rallying
- 15:06around Bill Clinton is these days. I mean, the guy's
- 15:09been credibly accused of by how many women, and still
- 15:12he's like somebody that people are rallying around to defend.
- 15:15And really, what that comes down to, folks, is tribalism, right,
- 15:18it comes down to our side versus their side. We're
- 15:21going to protect our side so it doesn't look like
- 15:24we're all bad. It's so stupid, and you know what,
- 15:27not to digress and jump off topic for a second. Well,
- 15:30kind of the same topic. But lately on Twitter, on
- 15:33a bunch of threads that I've been tagged in, I've
- 15:35been seeing a lot of partisan tribalism and it's a
- 15:39bunch of bullshit. If you tag me in one of
- 15:42those posts, you, with your tribalism and your nonsense, do
- 15:45not accept, do not expect a response from men. I'm
- 15:48not gonna talk about any of that. Bs. There is
- 15:51plenty of scumbags to go around on both sides of
- 15:54the aisle, all right, there's no good guys here. Everybody
- 15:56is a great character, folks, Come on now. Worth noting
- 16:01Rogan rarely brings up how many times current President Donald
- 16:04Trump was on that very same plane, So you have
- 16:08to engage in what about ism? Right, so if you
- 16:10bring up one person, you have to bring up the other. No,
- 16:12that's not how this works. Okay, we talk about each
- 16:15person and we move forward and then talk about the
- 16:19next person. We don't have to use what aboutism? Okay,
- 16:21just because you bring up Clinton, you don't have to
- 16:24bring up Trump. And just because you bring up Trump,
- 16:26you don't have to bring up Clinton. Okay. There are
- 16:29plenty scummy on their own folks, which makes this week's
- 16:33guest a curious pick for the podcast. Host Rogan welcomed
- 16:37famed Los Angeles steakhouse chef Adam Perry Lang apl restaurant,
- 16:42to talk about steak and how Lang's ultra high end
- 16:45restaurant is faring during the lockdown. Lang is a renowned
- 16:50chef and Rogan loves meat, So that bit holds water. Okay, Well, yeah,
- 16:54he is a renowned chef, no doubt about it. And
- 16:56Rogan not only loves meat, he's a prolific hunter. He
- 16:59does a lot of bowhunt. If you're not familiar with
- 17:01Joe Rogan, so yeah, I could see why he won't look.
- 17:04I could understand why Rogan would have a chef on
- 17:06the show, and I could even understand why he'd have
- 17:08Adam perry Lang on the show. But what I don't
- 17:11understand is the lack of hard questions that is so Unrogan,
- 17:15like that I don't even know what's going on there,
- 17:17Like did he have a new strain of weed that
- 17:20he was blasting before the show or during the show,
- 17:22and it made him forget I mean, I want to
- 17:24give Joe Rogan the benefit of the doubt more than anybody, honestly,
- 17:27because all kidding aside, you know, his podcast is something
- 17:32that is it's an incredible resource for the most part.
- 17:37So it's just disappointing when you see stuff like this
- 17:39and you see that Adam perry Lang was on there
- 17:42and he wasn't really quiz the way he should be.
- 17:47But Adam perry Lang worked for Epstein and Rogan somehow
- 17:50didn't bring this up a single time during the two
- 17:53hour interview. Instead, they talked about steak and that's pretty
- 17:57much it. Look I get it again, I get it.
- 18:00Rogan wanted to have Adam perry Lang on the show
- 18:03Steaks blah blah blah. I understand, but come on, Joe,
- 18:06there was nobody else that you could have picked to
- 18:07be on the podcast. It had to be Adam Perry Lang.
- 18:10There's nobody else that cooks a mean steak. I mean,
- 18:14especially considering just recently. Adam Perry Lang was brought up
- 18:20in the Papers from the Sun and the Documents from
- 18:23the Sun, one of the seventy people. So you would
- 18:26think Rogan would at the very least have a couple
- 18:29of questions. Right, Look, I have to tell you, a
- 18:32friend or not, if you come on to my podcast
- 18:34or my show and you had anything to do with
- 18:37Jeffrey Epstein, you can expect I Am talking the most hardball,
- 18:42digging questions you can possibly imagine, and it won't be
- 18:46done in a nice way to be honest with you, Right,
- 18:49friend or not, you have to answer for your transgressions.
- 18:52You have to answer for your time with Jeffrey Epstein.
- 18:55I mean, has anybody asked this guy about it? Has
- 18:58this guy really has he ever come out and done
- 18:59a full on interview about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein
- 19:03or what he saw while he was Epstein chef. Look,
- 19:07there's a lot there. I mean, look, the end of
- 19:09the day, he can end it all. Adam Perry Lankin
- 19:13ended all by coming out and doing an interview and
- 19:15explaining his role. Go to the FBI and tell them, look,
- 19:18this is what I saw. Let's get me, let's get
- 19:20on record. Let's go on record. I know that's what
- 19:22I would do if I was in issues. But no,
- 19:25none of these people seem to care enough about the
- 19:27survivors to do that. All of these people want. All
- 19:30these people want is for this to go away. They
- 19:32don't want it to ruin their public image and affect
- 19:35their ability to earn. That's all they care about. They
- 19:37don't care about these survivors, and it's sickening to me.
- 19:42It was confirmed that Lang spent considerable time traveling with
- 19:45Epstein and his crew to all the spots where Epstein
- 19:47was allegedly flying in underage girls to attend lavish parties
- 19:51he threw for celebrities, politicians, billionaires, and royalty. Lang himself
- 19:56admitted he was on some of the flights and worked
- 19:59in Epstein's home, but told Eedter in twenty nineteen that
- 20:03he was unaware of any wrongdoing going on all around him.
- 20:06Oh yeah, I'm sure that's what they all said, right
- 20:08and eater. That was the publication that chased him down.
- 20:12None of these legacy media outlets thought it was appropriate
- 20:15to try and get an interview with Jeffrey Epstein's private
- 20:18chef who was flying all over the world with them
- 20:20on the plane doing lord knows what. Nobody thought that
- 20:23would be an interesting interview. Huh. Nobody thought that some
- 20:26hard questions should be asked. Boy, that legacy media sure
- 20:29cares about us. What an absolute joke. The legacy media
- 20:32is an absolute dumpster fire. My role was limited to
- 20:38meal preparation. Lang told ter, I was unaware of the
- 20:41depraved behavior and have great sympathy and admiration for the
- 20:45brave women who have come forward. Well, have you come forward,
- 20:49mister Lang? Have you shown great courage by coming forward?
- 20:54Mister Lang? The answer is no, of course not. None
- 20:57of these guys have come forward because guess what, all
- 21:00of these people have something to hide. In my opinion,
- 21:02every single one of these people was an enabler. Every
- 21:05single one of these people that was paling around with
- 21:07Jeffrey Epstein is under the microscope. At this point, Lang
- 21:13hasn't offered any more information since the conversation. In the
- 21:17years after Lang worked for Epstein at his new Mexico ranch,
- 21:20Palm Beach compound, New York penthouse, and private Caribbean island.
- 21:25He's become the toast of the Los Angeles food scene,
- 21:27working for Oprah, Mario Batali and Jimmy Kimmel. The latter
- 21:33is such a close friend that Kimo let Lang live
- 21:35in his beach house after his recent separation and divorce.
- 21:38Oh isn't that nice. Wasn't Jimmy Kimmel up there screaming
- 21:41down from his ivory tower about the rest of us
- 21:44and Cavanaugh and all these other people who were accused
- 21:48of sexual assault. Yet he has this Jeffrey Epstein associate
- 21:53living with them at his house. This is what I
- 21:55mean about these hypocrites, folks, all right, all of these
- 21:57hypocrites are ridiculous. I am so against a hero worshiping
- 22:03that I can't even begin to explain to you how
- 22:06detrimental to people I think it is. You should not
- 22:09be worshiping any of these famous people as heroes. They
- 22:11are all gray characters, and they are all capable of
- 22:14incredible evil like any other human being. Nobody. None of
- 22:18these people should be put on a pedestal, especially a
- 22:20guy like Jimmy Kimmel, give me a break with this guy.
- 22:24While Joe Rogan, a man fairly obsessed with Jeffrey Epstein
- 22:27up to this point, choose not to sit and excuse me,
- 22:31chose not to ask a single question about Epstein while
- 22:34sitting across from one of his former personal chefs who
- 22:37was regularly on the Lolita Express, leaves a pretty big
- 22:40question mark. And he's receiving a lot of ir from
- 22:43Rogan's fans in and on social media and the comments
- 22:47section of the episode's YouTube page. So there's a couple
- 22:51of comments from people that they posted. One is from
- 22:54pure Optics. Shout out to pure Optics from Twitter. H Yeah,
- 23:00So these are you know, people that are asking questions
- 23:03of why these questions weren't asked to the chef, Adam
- 23:07Perry Lang. And they're good questions, right. It's legit to
- 23:12ask why Joe Rogan did not ask him anything about
- 23:15Jeffrey Epstein, all right, that is a legit question to ask.
- 23:19It's a legit criticism, and that's coming from one of
- 23:22Joe Rogan's biggest fans. I'll just straight up honest with you.
- 23:27The guy is an incredible story as far as a
- 23:31podcaster goes and his show is just amazing. So it's
- 23:34disappointing to see stuff like this, right, So the criticism
- 23:39is warranted, and I think that going forward, if anybody
- 23:44has this Adam Perry Lang sitting down in front of them,
- 23:48you have to ask these questions, right, You have to
- 23:50ask this guy what he knows, what he was involved in.
- 23:53Even if he just gives you a canned answer and
- 23:56you know, one of those prepared responses, at the very least,
- 23:59you did your job as the host of the show
- 24:02by trying to dig a little deeper. Instead, they just
- 24:05talk about stake, et cetera, et cetera. I don't you know.
- 24:08It's one of the word honestly. Honestly, there's one of
- 24:11the worst episodes that I've ever listened to on the
- 24:14Joe Rogan Experience. And what are their fourteen hundred and
- 24:18seventy episodes or something like that, So you know, I
- 24:21understand that it doesn't You don't always get it right
- 24:24as a podcast host or a content creator. Not everything
- 24:26is a home run. Sometimes the content is eh. But
- 24:30when it comes to situations like this and the fact
- 24:32that Epstein has i mean, Rogan has been so interested
- 24:35in the Epstein case. It's just mind boggling to think
- 24:37that he didn't have any questions for Adam Perry Lying
- 24:41laying in regards to his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Obviously,
- 24:47no one has to be fully accountable for their associates
- 24:49or employers, but this topic seems like a pretty large
- 24:52elephant to leave standing in the room. Of course, nobody
- 24:56is responsible for all of their friends or their boss
- 24:59or anything like that. Nobody's saying that. Okay, what I'm
- 25:02saying is this man was obviously around, he was on
- 25:04the planes, he had first hand knowledge, he witnessed things firsthand.
- 25:09To say he saw nothing, that's you'd have to be
- 25:11real naive to believe that, in my opinion, So it's
- 25:15warranted to ask this man, what have you seen? What
- 25:19do you know? But Joe Rogan took a different approach
- 25:23in this podcast, and it's a disappointing situation because usually
- 25:28Rogan be all over it, right, so you can understand
- 25:31why people are disappointed, and you can understand why people
- 25:34have questions. I would hope that in the future, if
- 25:38Perry Lang ever comes back onto the show, that Rogan
- 25:41would ask him some harder questions and really, you know,
- 25:46travel down that road because the audience wants to know.
- 25:50Everybody wants to know what Adam perry Lang saw and
- 25:54what he can add to the case. So he should
- 25:57really come forward, talk to the investigation and clear his
- 26:01name if he wasn't involved. But again, the only outlet
- 26:05that has chased him down is eater in twenty nineteen.
- 26:08This isn't a story for the legacy media. Nobody in
- 26:11the legacy media wants to talk to this guy. I mean,
- 26:15think about the resources that the legacy media wastes on
- 26:17dumb shit on a regular basis. But this guy who
- 26:20was a personal chef on the planes named in the documents,
- 26:23nobody wants to talk to him. Rogan doesn't even ask
- 26:26him any questions. In my opinion, none of that is okay.
- 26:31Adam perry Lang must be questioned, and he must answer
- 26:38why he was around Epstein for so long and how
- 26:42he can possibly say he did not see anything out
- 26:45of the ordinary. I am sorry, but I do not
- 26:48believe that, and I don't think anybody who was following
- 26:53this case believes that. We know that all of these
- 26:55people have the same excuse. Oh, I didn't see anything
- 26:59I wasn't around anything, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
- 27:02And they've been allowed to get away with that. No
- 27:04hard questions, nobody's challenged that. Everybody's just been like, oh, okay,
- 27:07he said he wasn't he didn't know anything, so he's good.
- 27:10He's good to go. It's like the Biden campaign coming
- 27:13out and saying, well, the Times investigated this and then
- 27:15then they gave us a pass. No, that's not good enough.
- 27:18Hard questions need to be asked. And unfortunately, on this
- 27:22episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, that was not accomplished.
- 27:27Let's hope going forward that Adam Perry Lang is questioned
- 27:33in the proper manner by authorities or the legacy media,
- 27:38and let's see just exactly what Adam Perry Lang knows.
- 27:44If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
- 27:46at Bobby Kapuci at protonmeil dot com. That's bo b
- 27:49b y c ap U c c I at Protonmeil
- 27:52dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at
- 27:55bo bby Underscore c ap U c c I. All Right,
- 28:00what's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 28:04So Joe Rogan on his podcast was talking about Epstein
- 28:09and he says that he also believes that Epstein was
- 28:13a CIA or Massad spy. Well, welcome to the party,
- 28:17Joe Rogan. We've been saying this for how long here
- 28:20on this podcast and elsewhere, right, not just us here,
- 28:24But it's obvious, at least to me that Epstein was
- 28:28some sort of asset. Now the question is who is
- 28:32he being run by? For me, I think the most
- 28:36logical answer to that is he was being run by
- 28:40both of them. My guess is that it was the
- 28:44CIA who okay the operation, and then of course there
- 28:49were some Masad elements as well. But the people who
- 28:53believe that it was a full on Massad operation, I
- 28:56can't get down with that because as strong and as
- 28:59powerful as the Masade is, they'll always be the little
- 29:02brother to the CIA. And there's nothing that goes on
- 29:06in this country or the world that the CIA is
- 29:09not aware of. These dudes know what's up, especially if
- 29:13you think you're gonna run an operation like this in
- 29:16America using somebody like Epstein who's already known to them.
- 29:20Let's not forget the FBI, Let's not forget all of
- 29:23his other run ins with the law that saw Epstein
- 29:26come out unscathed. What can explain all of that? Is
- 29:29it just good luck? Is he just the teflon don
- 29:32or is there something else going on behind the scenes.
- 29:37Today we have an article from the New York Post.
- 29:40The author is Ariel Zilbert. Headline Joe Rogan Jeffrey Epstein
- 29:46may have been CIA or MASSAD spy. Yeah, no shit,
- 29:52But I'll take a different approach than most people. I
- 29:55think it's a good thing Rogan's talking about this with
- 29:58his reach and his audience. The more people who know
- 30:01what really went on here, the better off we are.
- 30:04And I've saw some people come out and accuse him
- 30:07of being a conspiracy theorist for this. I mean, really,
- 30:11considering what Alexander Acosta had to say about Epstein being
- 30:16owned by intelligence, considering what we have heard from so
- 30:19many other sources, is it really that far of a
- 30:22stretch to believe that this guy was being run as
- 30:25an asset? And remember, being run as an asset doesn't
- 30:29mean the government itself is condoning what you're doing. You're
- 30:32being run as an asset by some black group, right,
- 30:36some black operation that's off the books. So people try
- 30:41that they conflated sometimes and act like you're saying, well,
- 30:44the whole government was in on it. That's certainly not
- 30:47what I'm saying. But there certainly are people within the
- 30:50government who are running these black ops who have zero
- 30:54care in the world about using a child molester or
- 30:58pedophile like Epstein compromant on people. And that's certainly what
- 31:04Epstein was up to, folks. Joe Rogan thinks that convicted
- 31:09pedophile Jeffrey Epstein may have been an agent of either
- 31:12the CIA or Israel's Masad who is part of a
- 31:16plot to collect sensitive information about the rich and powerful.
- 31:20We all know that that's what was going on. The
- 31:22girls all told us. All of his survivors, how many
- 31:25of them have told us about the house being wired?
- 31:28How many of us have how many of them have
- 31:29told us about the dossiers. You see, I don't worry
- 31:33about all the white noise. I listen to what the
- 31:35actual survivors have to say, and then what we see
- 31:38in court documents, because there's a treasure trove of information
- 31:42in all of those leaks, and when you start putting
- 31:44the pieces together, there's no way that you can come
- 31:47to any other destination besides one that has Epstein being
- 31:51protected from by somebody. Rogan broached the topic of Epstein
- 31:58and his connection to Harvard University on last Friday's episode
- 32:01of his popular podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, which is
- 32:05available on the Spotify streaming service. It's funny he's talking
- 32:09about Harvard here, considering mister Steven Pinker, Professor Pinker blocked
- 32:13me on Twitter and I've never even had a back
- 32:16and forth with the guy. I was looking at something
- 32:19else and I happened to run across his Twitter feed
- 32:22and it says you're blocked. And let me tell you what.
- 32:25I had a great chuckle at that. Imagine being some
- 32:28Harvard trained dude, all that money, some big shot and
- 32:32getting your lunch eating by a guy who's barely functional,
- 32:36a guy who barely made it through state school. Talk
- 32:39about wasted money. Huh. But Harvard is just a bedsty,
- 32:44a sore of disgustingness. When we're talking about Epstein. You
- 32:48want to talk about an open wound. It's Harvard and
- 32:52everybody who was involved with Epstein on that campus, and
- 32:57with Pinker blocking me, I hope the rest of them
- 32:59do the same. Then my next goal will be to
- 33:01have the Taliban put a fatwa out on me. The
- 33:06podcaster and his guest, comedian Whitney Cummings, began talking about Epstein.
- 33:10His comments were cited on Monday by Media eight. Well,
- 33:14he definitely donated some money to science, Rogan said. You know,
- 33:18but I had a conversation with a scientist who didn't
- 33:21buy into the Epstein stuff and wouldn't go to the
- 33:23meetings and stuff like that. Now, why would you if
- 33:26you were some scientists and this dorky ass dude who
- 33:29has no credentials, no anything, and has all of these
- 33:33rumors swirling around them. This guy comes and contacts you,
- 33:36You're going to take money from him? Oh yeah, that's
- 33:38a good idea. And he said he was really shocked
- 33:42at how little money he actually donated. Interesting, Cummings said,
- 33:47he goes, it wasn't that much money. He goes, it
- 33:50was really like he was more than that, Rogan said,
- 33:53he was. He was somebody who provided them something that
- 33:57they were incapable of getting themselves. Pretty young women, It's
- 34:03not that hard to figure out, folks. It's not this
- 34:06unsolvable puzzle. These dudes had proclivities. Grew up. You know,
- 34:12bookworms nerds never had hot girls, I'm sure. Then this
- 34:16disgusting pedophile shows up says to them, I have access
- 34:20to all these young girls. Why don't you come to
- 34:21my island for a vacation. And if Epstein tells them
- 34:25they're underage, or doesn't tell them they're underage, who knows.
- 34:28But the fact is, once you're on that island and
- 34:31they're engaging in, you know, relations with these girls, now
- 34:35they're part of what went on, right, And if you
- 34:37build a file on somebody and say to him, look,
- 34:39you were sleeping with an underage girl, and I have
- 34:42documented proof. You don't think that that person is going
- 34:45to become more malleable, somebody who's going to be more
- 34:48willing to give you information that you're looking for. Of
- 34:51course they are. He was bringing them to parties like
- 34:55it was an intelligence operation, Rogan said. Whoever was running it,
- 34:59whether it was Masade or whether it was the CIA,
- 35:02or whether it was a combination of both, it was
- 35:05an intelligence operation. They were bringing in people and compromising them. Look,
- 35:10this is Joe Rogan saying it as well. And you
- 35:13can like Rogan or not like Rogan, whatever, But if
- 35:16you're somebody who is interested in justice in this case.
- 35:19Having him talk about this to his wider range of
- 35:22audience is a good thing. And I hope that people
- 35:25who are listening say to themselves, what the hell, what
- 35:28do you mean he was an intelligence operative and they
- 35:30start digging deeper, because we all know that you can't
- 35:33just scratch the surface of this one. You got to
- 35:35dive right into the deep end. And when they would
- 35:41compromise them, they would use, you know, whatever they had
- 35:44on them to influence their opinions and the way they
- 35:46expressed those opinions. Rogan added, and I don't know why
- 35:49they would want to do that with scientists, which is
- 35:52really strange to me. Well, who knows what those scientists
- 35:54were working on. I think we would have to go
- 35:57back and look at every single scientist and look at
- 35:59the project that were working on, and then try and
- 36:02draw the comparisons and the parallels from there. Cummings then
- 36:08joked Epstein's like, I need you to do a study
- 36:10about how fifteen year old girls are adults. They're more
- 36:13mature than we thought. But if a scientist donates, I'm sorry,
- 36:17if a rich person donates to a scientist, do they
- 36:20have any ability to weigh in, or are they just
- 36:23like I get no decisions about how this money is spent.
- 36:26She said, that's an interesting point, but really with Epstein
- 36:29it was more it wasn't like he was just some
- 36:31kind of philanthropist who's trying to help people out. He
- 36:35was doing this to manipulate the situation and give him
- 36:38more power over things. Rogan replied, I don't know. I mean,
- 36:43I would imagine the money goes like if you have
- 36:46a research grant and say, like you're working on a
- 36:48cure for leukemia or something like that. You know, you
- 36:51find established scientists that are working on this thing, and
- 36:54then you allocate money so that they can work on
- 36:56the projects. Whether or not the person who donates the
- 36:59money has any influence on how that money is spent,
- 37:02I doubt it. I highly doubt legitimate scientists would adhere
- 37:07to that, Rogan added. Epstein killed himself allegedly while awaiting
- 37:12trial on sex trafficking charges. In twenty and nineteen. He
- 37:17allegedly assaulted dozens of girls, some as young as fourteen
- 37:20years old. Allegedly, no, he did, okay, and it was
- 37:24over one hundred who got to payout, So the base
- 37:26numbers should be the girls who got paid out at
- 37:29the very least. So I mean dozens? Really? How about hundreds?
- 37:33His madam, you mean co conspirator and fellow child abuser,
- 37:37Glen Maxwell, sixty, was sentenced last month to twenty years
- 37:40in federal prison for procuring young girls in epstein sex
- 37:44trafficking operation. Maxwell's late father, Robert Maxwell, was rumored to
- 37:49have ties with the Israeli intelligence service the Macade. Not rumored,
- 37:54it's fact, you see. Don't try and muddy the waters
- 37:57facts or facts, and what are in facts are rumors.
- 38:00But it's a fact that Robert Maxwell had tied to
- 38:04ties to the Massade and to Israeli intelligence. In twenty twenty,
- 38:11Harvard found that the university accepted more than nine million
- 38:14dollars from Epstein during the decade leading up to his
- 38:17two thousand and eight sex crimes conviction in Florida State court,
- 38:21but barred him from making further donations after that point.
- 38:25It concluded that Epstein visited the Cambridge, Massachusetts campus more
- 38:29than forty times after his conviction, including as recently as
- 38:33twenty eighteen. Martin Noak, a Harvard professor who had close
- 38:37ties to Epstein and who allegedly gave him an office
- 38:40on campus was disciplined by the school. The visits by
- 38:44Epstein stopped after other researchers conplayed to Noak about Epstein's presence.
- 38:49Investigators said, imagine being that daft and saying to yourself, Oh,
- 38:53it's okay if Epstein comes, nobody's gonna have any issue
- 38:56with that. Imagine being that ridiculous. The report cleared Harvard's
- 39:04senior leaders of wrongdoings, saying they acted appropriately in their
- 39:07dealings with Epstein. Of course it did. Every single one
- 39:10of these internal reports, same thing. Oh you did a
- 39:13little something wrong, but you didn't do it knowingly. Although
- 39:19most of the funding from Epstein had been spent by
- 39:21last year, the school said it donated the remaining two
- 39:24hundred thousand to groups that support victims of sex trafficking
- 39:27and assault. Other universities have also faced scrutiny over their
- 39:32ties to Epstein, including MIT and the former director of
- 39:36MIT's famous media lab, Joieto, resigned in twenty nineteen amid
- 39:41uproar over his financial connections to Epstein. He issued a
- 39:46public apology and vowed to raise money for victims of trafficking,
- 39:50and that's what they all try and do right to
- 39:52assuge people's feelings. Oh well, I'll just raise some money
- 39:55and that's going to fix everything. No, it's not. Why
- 39:58did you take money from Epstein? Why was Harvard involved?
- 40:01And why is Harvard for the most part, avoided any
- 40:04real scrutiny. Here I'll tell you why, because once again,
- 40:08the institutions are all broken and there is no equitable justice.
- 40:16If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
- 40:17at Bobby Kopuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O
- 40:21b b y c A. P u Cci at ProtonMail
- 40:25dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at
- 40:28Bobby Underscore c ap U c c I. The link
- 40:34that I discussed can be found in the description box.
- 40:37All right, everybody, I'll be back later on with a
- 40:39little more hope. You're all having a good one.