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Full Show Podcast: 27 August 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge you
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store news Dogs.
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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. Great to have your company this Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: It is the twenty seventh of August. A lot to
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Speaker 2: get through this morning. I'm actually a little angry this morning.
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Speaker 2: I've got to be in my bonnet about our energy
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Speaker 2: crisis crunch, whatever you want to call it. We'll get
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Speaker 2: to that a little later on. We're also going to
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Speaker 2: talk about whether we should be importing because we are
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Speaker 2: now going to need more gas hello, whether we should
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Speaker 2: be importing it or whether we should be getting it
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Speaker 2: out of the ground here in New Zealand. We'll talk
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Speaker 2: to the oil and gas industry in just a few
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Speaker 2: minutes about that. Also, Uber, you would have seen this
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Speaker 2: decision yesterday basically the four that took the case against Uber,
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Speaker 2: they have been declared employees not contractors. What does that
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Speaker 2: mean for your Uber rates? And we've got Leslie Yeomans
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Speaker 2: in Australia this morning.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the twenty seventh of August. Six people
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Speaker 2: have died in Ukraine following more Russian strikes in fifteen
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Speaker 2: regions across the country. That's now half the regions affected. Overnight.
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Speaker 2: Ukraine sees more than one hundred drones and one hundred
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Speaker 2: missiles have been fired, many cities reporting power and water outages.
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Speaker 2: Russia saying they are targeting quite specifically the infrastructure.
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Speaker 3: The strikes were a complex mix of drones, cruise and
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Speaker 3: ballistic missiles forward from landsea and air and managed to
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Speaker 3: impart overwhelm Ukraine's air defensive systems.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, more on that why they did that. In a second,
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Speaker 2: an apartment building in East London with known fire safety
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Speaker 2: issues has been engulfed in flames. One hundred people were
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Speaker 2: evacuated from the building, which two hospitalized. Forty five fire appliances.
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Speaker 2: Over two hundred firefighters worked on the blaze. A contractor
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Speaker 2: who'd been working on the building says non compliant cladding
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Speaker 2: was being replaced when the fire started. Back home and
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Speaker 2: Luxeon remember beating his chest at the mayors last week?
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Speaker 2: Were the Taxpayers Union has asked those local officials for
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Speaker 2: reaction to what Luxon had to say, and isn't all negative.
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Speaker 2: There's a fifty to fifty split between those who support
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Speaker 2: an oppose cabinet's decision to look at options to limit
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Speaker 2: council spending on the nice to haves.
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Speaker 4: But what these results show is that actually there's.
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Speaker 5: Approximately half the councilors across the country actually agree with
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Speaker 5: what the government's doing.
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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
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Speaker 1: a playing store news.
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Speaker 2: Talks, that'd be yeah, And the counselors some of them,
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Speaker 2: and the mayors some of them looked petty and petulant
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Speaker 2: and childish, didn't they. Oh, you can't come in here
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Speaker 2: and tell us what to do. Yes, he can, and
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Speaker 2: he just did, and you need it, so listen up,
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Speaker 2: just very quickly. On Ukraine, they are now calling. The
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Speaker 2: Ukrainians are calling, unsurprisingly, begging for the Allies to give
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Speaker 2: them permission to use long range weapons into Russia. Obviously
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Speaker 2: they've made an incursion into Russia, but they aren't able
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Speaker 2: to use long range missiles to go into further afield.
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Speaker 2: And it's France, it's Britain, it's the US who are
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Speaker 2: saying no, because I mean, who knows where that's going
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Speaker 2: to lead? Right? But now you've got what has just
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Speaker 2: happened overnight is one of, if not the largest missile
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Speaker 2: attacks of this war against Ukraine by the Russians, and
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Speaker 2: they are very specifically targeting the power and the water
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Speaker 2: supply to damage that six dead. See, the casualties not huge,
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Speaker 2: but it's the infrastructure that they're going after. Winter is coming,
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Speaker 2: and this is Putin saying, This is Putin saying to
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Speaker 2: the people of Ukraine. Sure you're having a bit of
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Speaker 2: success here, but boy do we have some firepower, and boy,
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Speaker 2: can we make your lives a misery come winter ten
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Speaker 2: up to five. Also, oil and gass. Watching that closely
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Speaker 2: because this is a Wall Street journeral report. Oils up
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Speaker 2: three sorry, three percent over night, two seventy seven US
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Speaker 2: dollars a barrel. Why it's the Israel his Bila situation,
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Speaker 2: the missile sparring, you could call it. At this point,
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Speaker 2: tensions are up, but the real money is on what's
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Speaker 2: happening between Iran and Israel, obviously, and the reason for
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Speaker 2: that here's the kicker. Iran's oil supply and infrastructure accounts
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Speaker 2: for three to four percent of the global three to
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Speaker 2: four percent of the global so that's why everybody's a
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Speaker 2: bit worried about that. Chris Hipkins has tweeted, and I'm
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Speaker 2: going to have it and we're going to chat about
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Speaker 2: this a little later on in the show. And this
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Speaker 2: is the oil and gas band labor introduced, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: But Chris Hipkins, I asked him on the show. Nope,
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Speaker 2: what's her name, Megan Woods? No, they're not available at
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Speaker 2: five point forty five in the morning. So I will
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Speaker 2: talk about Chris Hipkins because he has put out a
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Speaker 2: couple of tweeks. We'll get to that in a second.
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Speaker 2: We're also going to talk to the oil and gas
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Speaker 2: industry and we're asking the question, do we import the
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Speaker 2: gas or do we get it out of the ground here?
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Speaker 2: And if we need to get it out of the
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Speaker 2: ground here, what needs to change to make that happen.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition
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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a play
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Speaker 1: in store news Talk.
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Speaker 2: Zidby'd love to hear your views this morning. Nine two
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Speaker 2: ninety two is the number to text what did you
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Speaker 2: make of yesterday's announcement at postcab by Prime Minister Luxen
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Speaker 2: thirteen after five. Now, the cabinet decision, you heard it yesterday,
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Speaker 2: you saw it yesterday. It's a plan to try and
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Speaker 2: ease our energy woes. The Oil and Gas Exploration Band
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Speaker 2: will be overturned by the end of the year, but
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Speaker 2: they want Labour's support to do it, to try and
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Speaker 2: make it an enduring thing.
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Speaker 4: When there was talk of Lake Onslow sitting there at
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Speaker 4: sixteen billion dollars delivery in twenty thirty eight. That stops
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Speaker 4: people from wanting to invest in actual, proper infrastructure and renewables.
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Speaker 2: As a consequence, he says he's agnostic as to whether
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Speaker 2: we get the gas that clearly the country needs from
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Speaker 2: domestic sources or whether we import it. Joining me now
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Speaker 2: is John Carnegie, Energy Resources Our teed Archief executive. John.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Ryan, Good to have you on
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Speaker 2: the show. So do we import it or do we
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Speaker 2: get at ourselves?
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Speaker 5: Well, I think, as the Prime Minister has said, we're
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Speaker 5: likely to need both foreign gas, probably as a backstop.
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Speaker 5: But look our preferences that are untapped. We have untapped
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Speaker 5: domestic natural gas and we should be using that.
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Speaker 2: Why aren't we tapping it? Is it stuff that we
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Speaker 2: know is there? We haven't actually gone down and extracted
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Speaker 2: yet or set up the extraction.
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Speaker 5: Oh. Look, we've had a range of policies from previous
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Speaker 5: governments that have been targeted at suppressing actively suppressing a
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Speaker 5: role of natural gas economy, and the investment conditions haven't
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Speaker 5: been appropriate.
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Speaker 2: Here's the problem though, right because National is saying yep,
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Speaker 2: it's all on you turn the taps on, but Labour's
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Speaker 2: not saying that. Labor is saying we will not overturn
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Speaker 2: that oil and gas expiration band. So you're if you're
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Speaker 2: an investor, are you really going to care if just
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Speaker 2: the Nats are saying that because we could have a
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Speaker 2: change of government.
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Speaker 5: Right, Well, the Minister for Resources has been looking and
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Speaker 5: publicly using about a range of tools to address the
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Speaker 5: massive sovereign risk that the sector faces. But I guess,
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Speaker 5: coming back to your point, just keeping actually keeping the
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Speaker 5: lights on shouldn't be a partisan political issue, you know,
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Speaker 5: we should there's a big investments regardless of whether it's
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Speaker 5: foreign gas or our domestics. It shouldn't be a political football.
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Speaker 5: And actually I'm pretty sure that people rather he are
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Speaker 5: thinking that right about now as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and a lot of them unionized ironically too.
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Speaker 2: Just coming back to that sovereign risk issue. They've ruled
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Speaker 2: out subsidies. How else can you shore up business confidence
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Speaker 2: without using the likes of subsidies and without the support
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Speaker 2: of labor.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's a good question. I see that as
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Speaker 5: a part of the announcement yesterday that they are seeking
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Speaker 5: further work from officials on how to address the sovereign
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Speaker 5: risk issue actually for both our domestic natural gas resource
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Speaker 5: as well as for potential investment in LNG. And as
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Speaker 5: I said, the Minister of Resources, he's been talking about
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Speaker 5: bonds and long term contracts. I'm not quite sure that
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Speaker 5: either of those are going to be fit for this
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Speaker 5: particular purpose, but he's definitely on the right track. Basically,
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Speaker 5: what's needed sufficient if your investor, what you want is
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Speaker 5: you want to know that, if you're going to invest
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Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of dollars, that your investment will be
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Speaker 5: whole when politics changes in six or nine years time.
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Speaker 5: And that's really hard. But of course there's one Parliament
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Speaker 5: can't bind the next, that's right. So you're you're talking
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Speaker 5: about contractual measures. I mean, there are a range of
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Speaker 5: range of thoughts going around the public sector at the moment,
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Speaker 5: and government, and we're going to work closely with them
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Speaker 5: to ensure that they reach the right landing point.
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll be interesting to keep us up to
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Speaker 2: date with it. That John John Carnegie Energy Resources altered
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Speaker 2: chief executive eighteen minutes after five rain Bridge. I mean
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Speaker 2: contracts can be got out of too. Look at the ferries, right.
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Speaker 2: You sign a big contract, you say you're going to
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Speaker 2: do something, you say you're going to buy something, you
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Speaker 2: say you're going to sell something, Your government comes along
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Speaker 2: and it's all over. Nine ninety two is the number
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Speaker 2: to text. What do you think labor should be doing?
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Speaker 2: What they're not doing is coming on this show this morning.
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Speaker 2: I can tell you that much. But Hipkins is Tweetinghipkins
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Speaker 2: is tweeting about this, and he's blaming not the oil
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Speaker 2: and gas band that his government introduced. No, he's blaming
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Speaker 2: the mixed ownership model that John Key brought in. Remember
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Speaker 2: when we flogged off the state assets. I was in
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Speaker 2: the back of a bus following Phil Goff around that election. God,
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Speaker 2: it was depressing anyway that all happened. And now that
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Speaker 2: is who we are blaming. According to Christopher Hopkins, he
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Speaker 2: did a face palm emoji in his tweets and he
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Speaker 2: says we have enough renewable energy in New Zealand. The
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Speaker 2: market has prioritized profits rather than supply. Okay, I just
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Speaker 2: to you know this idea that in order to solve
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Speaker 2: this crisis we need more government. We should never have
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Speaker 2: sold bits of that company. We need more government to
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Speaker 2: be sorting it out. I mean, how has Key we
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Speaker 2: Railed done with investing into infrastructure. However, Hospital's done with
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Speaker 2: investing into infrastructure. I think is backwards thinking.
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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds had a flying store.
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Speaker 2: News Talk said B twenty one after five. It is
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Speaker 2: the twenty seventh of August. A vegan food manufacturer has
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Speaker 2: gone under. This is in Wellington. The owners of this
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Speaker 2: vegan food manufacturer included stuff, Yes, stuff. The news company
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Speaker 2: tj Peinada was another one gone into voluntary administration. They
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Speaker 2: made fake meat sausages, chicken mince burger patties. They used
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Speaker 2: hemp to do this. Anyway, apparently business hasn't been good.
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Speaker 2: Here's the kicker. Labor gave them one point two million
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Speaker 2: dollars in twenty twenty two as part of a regional fund.
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Speaker 2: I don't know where that money's gone, but it does
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Speaker 2: leave a sour taste in one's mouth, doesn't it Just gone?
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Speaker 2: Twenty two after five Bryan Bridge Hoover has lost a
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Speaker 2: landmark appeal after the Employment Court rule that four Uber
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Speaker 2: drivers should be treated as employees not contractors. Drivers are
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Speaker 2: now set to yet holiday pay, sick leave, and the
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Speaker 2: right to unionize. The ride share company has since announced
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Speaker 2: it and now wants to appeal the verdict to the
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court. And Alistair SB is an employment lawyer. He's
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Speaker 2: with us this morning, Alistair.
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Speaker 6: Good morning, morning mine.
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Speaker 2: How are you very well? Thank you? Is this going
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Speaker 2: to have ramifications for every other Uber driver?
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Speaker 6: In a word, yes, because essentially, although the decision here
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Speaker 6: was about just four Uber drivers, they are all effectively
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Speaker 6: employees and in the same way under the same model.
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Speaker 6: So just about every other Uber driver unless they're on
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Speaker 6: a totally different arrangements, and I think that's unlikely, it's
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Speaker 6: going to have the same argument that they are an employee.
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Speaker 6: And I believe that there's a fairly large number of
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Speaker 6: employees Uber drivers the unions representing and who they're trying
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Speaker 6: to bring claims from employment entitlements already.
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Speaker 2: So this is a process that's underway, which means Uber
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Speaker 2: is likely to have to stump up, which means for
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Speaker 2: every you know, your customers, we're going to be paying
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Speaker 2: more presumably.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's for Uber to work through in terms
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Speaker 6: of how it passes that cost on not so I
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Speaker 6: couldn't really say that, you know, that is one possible outcome.
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Speaker 2: Can't they? Aren't they different because they can essentially cheat
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Speaker 2: on their employer. You know, I come into work here
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Speaker 2: at ZB I'm not also you know, working on another
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Speaker 2: radio station doing a bit of side hustle for R
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Speaker 2: and Z at the same time, they can use multiple
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Speaker 2: apps on their phones, can't they? Does that not make
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Speaker 2: them different?
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Speaker 6: Yes, that's one of the things that was called of
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Speaker 6: feel head to look at in terms of Uber drivers,
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Speaker 6: are in set employees or contractors as one of the
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Speaker 6: parts of your bothers to what extends to you and
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Speaker 6: or questions I have to look at us to what
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Speaker 6: extend to you and business on your own account? And
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Speaker 6: did actually specifically look at the issue of are the
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Speaker 6: these drivers able to sort of let's just say, be
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Speaker 6: on the app for multiple different rietio companies at the
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Speaker 6: same time. And while it accepted it and theory they could,
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Speaker 6: they said that in reality they're not actually going to
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Speaker 6: be doing it, at least based on the evidence in
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Speaker 6: front of it, and that the drivers will be having
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Speaker 6: to potentially work for just peoper at one particular time,
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Speaker 6: and if they want to log off, work for somebody else,
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Speaker 6: and that's their own choice, but that's more akin to
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Speaker 6: what their casual employee might be able to do rather
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Speaker 6: than a true person who's in business on their own account.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, good point, Alis to thank you for that.
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Speaker 2: Als to esp employment lawyer, So I think I think
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Speaker 2: be careful what you wish for. Obviously you want to
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Speaker 2: have the conditions, and you want to have the holiday pay,
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Speaker 2: and you want to be able to unionize, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: But if that pushes the costs back up, and will
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Speaker 2: people jump back in cabs? Nine nine two the early.
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Speaker 1: Edition Full The Show podcast on iHeartRadio how By News
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Speaker 1: Talks it be twenty.
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Speaker 2: Seven minutes after five hundreds of decent, hard working key
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Speaker 2: we provincial union jobs. Yes, union jobs are hanging in
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Speaker 2: the balance today. Electros spot prices peaking at one thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars per megawalt hour. In the last couple of weeks,
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Speaker 2: power companies they're basically canceling deals for kiwis to heat
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Speaker 2: their homes this winter, and businesses literally shuttering operations, rationing
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Speaker 2: power producing less. Think of the ports that will be
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Speaker 2: affected by that from provincial New Zealand. Think of the
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Speaker 2: competitive advantage that we are losing. What's the problem Not
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Speaker 2: enough sun, not enough rain, not enough wind for our
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Speaker 2: renewable energy sources. Plus we have a gas shortage. This
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Speaker 2: problem will continue in part because labor canceled the oil
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Speaker 2: and gas exploration into the future. This is my generation's
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Speaker 2: nuclear free moment. Now the rubber has hit the roads.
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Speaker 2: The oil and gas investment and exploration has gone through
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Speaker 2: the floor. Investment confidence has gone through the floor. Where
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Speaker 2: are our leaders in this crisis? Well, just Cinda's in
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Speaker 2: Chicago doing carmel Mania. We know that's probably still dining
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Speaker 2: out on the nuclear free moment. James Shaw, Grant Robertson,
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Speaker 2: they're both in very cushy one percent jobs, probably not
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Speaker 2: worrying about putting the heat pumps on. I would think
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Speaker 2: Megan Woods was the Minister of Energy who signed off
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Speaker 2: on the band and she is still in parliament. She
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Speaker 2: is the shadow Energy minister. So where is she today?
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Speaker 2: The government yesterday issued a challenge to labor to help
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Speaker 2: dig our way out of this crisis at four pm
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Speaker 2: major announcement. What has been the response. Not one tweet,
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Speaker 2: not one Facebook post, not one press release from them.
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Speaker 2: They were unavailable to our producers for an interview at
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Speaker 2: five forty five am this morning. Don't know why. No
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Speaker 2: statement even we asked them for a statement if they
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Speaker 2: wouldn't appear on the program. No statement either, folks. This
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Speaker 2: is spray and walk away politics. It's a classic case
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Speaker 2: and it looks a little bit now that they're not
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Speaker 2: talking like it's cowering in a crisis too. And they
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Speaker 2: were warn MB told them a band would cost one
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Speaker 2: point two to two twenty three billion dollars in lost royalties.
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Speaker 2: They told them that Method X would up and leave
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Speaker 2: if this went ahead. She disagreed, she sprayed, and then
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Speaker 2: she walked away. Hipkins also not available for our interview
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Speaker 2: this morning. He has tweeted I'll have more on that later,
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Speaker 2: but I'm sorry. If you've got the energy and resources
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Speaker 2: to boot the sector up, Sharpe Creek at least have
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Speaker 2: the dec.
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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture
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Speaker 1: Beds and a playing Store.
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Speaker 2: News Talk Sibby good Morning twenty four away from six
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Speaker 2: News Talk said, b remember this the theme song. May
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Speaker 2: remember it's from Location Location, UK, great show where they
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Speaker 2: go around and look at the bathrooms and everything and
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Speaker 2: they've got funny accents. Kirsty Elsip is one of the presenters.
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Speaker 2: You'll know her face. You probably don't know her name,
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Speaker 2: but you know her face anyway, co presenters on this Location,
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Speaker 2: Location Location. She's in the news at the moment because
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Speaker 2: she let her son Oscar go on an overseas holiday.
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Speaker 2: And by overseas, I mean Europe's not that far as
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Speaker 2: it the problem. He's fifteen. So she has had a
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Speaker 2: call from Child Protective Services in the UK to say
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Speaker 2: they need to investigate her because she has let her
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Speaker 2: fifteen year old son, Oscar go on a holiday overseas.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that that's a little over the top.
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Speaker 2: He went with a sixteen year old friend that just
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Speaker 2: finished their GCSE's for the year, and she thought why
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Speaker 2: not have a treat off they go anyway, she's sending
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Speaker 2: some snaps online or whatever, and somebody obviously reports her.
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Speaker 2: Next thing, child protective services are involved. Nine to nine two?
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Speaker 2: How old do you think a child would be before
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Speaker 2: they're allowed to travel on their own. My mum wouldn't
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Speaker 2: let me even get on the train to go to
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Speaker 2: Wellington until I was And this is from why can
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Speaker 2: I it's certainly an hour until I think I was thirteen.
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Speaker 2: I was allowed to go when I was thirteen. Had
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Speaker 2: to be with some friends. Boy, we had fun day
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Speaker 2: in the big city. But yeah, I don't know about
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Speaker 2: She definitely wouldn't have let me get on a plane.
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Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. What do you reckon? Nine two?
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Speaker 2: Nine two is the number.
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Speaker 1: To text Bryan Bridge.
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Speaker 2: We're going to our reporters around the country. Lots of
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Speaker 2: your feedback coming on the electricity market as well. We'll
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Speaker 2: get to that too, But first, Cullum Proctor is in Dunedan.
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Speaker 2: Cullums some dead animals.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 7: Ryan is causing some concern here and animal welfare inspectors
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Speaker 7: making inquiries after a complaint about these dead animals on
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Speaker 7: the Sandy Mount Track, a popular walking track on the
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Speaker 7: a Targer Peninsula. Over the weekend, a resident took to
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Speaker 7: social media to voice the concern, saying there were many
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Speaker 7: dead sheep and lambs at the some of them half
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Speaker 7: rotten and likely there for a while. The Ministry of
20:04
Speaker 7: Primary Industries has received a complaint which they say they
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Speaker 7: are taking seriously. A the Department of Conservation says the
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Speaker 7: walk passes through what is an active working farm and
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Speaker 7: it's landing seasons, so stock fatalities can occur. They say
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Speaker 7: that while removing the carcasses would be desirable, the farmer
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Speaker 7: may have intentionally reduced his interaction as it can cause
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Speaker 7: mismothering and more deaths.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's often the case. Weather today.
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Speaker 7: Low cloud and drizzle, but it'll clear early charts of
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Speaker 7: an evening showers strong or easteries today fifteen the height.
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Speaker 2: All right and we're going to clear she when christ
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Speaker 2: Church Heay Claire, several weeks of disruptions for you guys. Yeah, look, this.
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Speaker 8: Is never what people want to hear. Ryan, but Chrishia
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Speaker 8: City Council is about to undertake several separate works in
20:48
Speaker 8: the areas of the city's northwest so that suburbs like
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Speaker 8: Papanui and Bishopdale they'll include some different upgrades, including installing
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Speaker 8: traffic lights at Grea's and Landon's roads and also some
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Speaker 8: gone a couple of railway crossings on Herewood and Langdon's roads.
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Speaker 8: The Council's Planning and Delivery Transport Manager Jacob Bradbury says, look,
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Speaker 8: there's going to be a lot of disruption from now
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Speaker 8: right through until just before Christmas. The impacts to motorists
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Speaker 8: will be significant, but the messages please be patient. Contractors
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Speaker 8: will do their best to mitigate the impact where they can,
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Speaker 8: but look there will be unavoidable delays.
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Speaker 2: Right. How's your weather clear?
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Speaker 8: Low cloud and drizzled to start. It will clear to
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Speaker 8: find from about midday though nor the leaves turning southwest.
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Speaker 8: It's a warm one the highest nineteen.
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Speaker 2: Very warman Dave Max. How's the rain been last night
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Speaker 2: in Wellington?
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Speaker 9: Well, look, there is more heavy rain this morning. It's
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Speaker 9: coming down quite heavily over the city at the moment
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Speaker 9: and it is forecast to continue. The heaviest period forecast
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Speaker 9: for around eight to ten am, which will almost inevitably
21:53
Speaker 9: mean more disruption this morning, more surface flooding, so take
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Speaker 9: care on the roads. Yesterday though quite extraordinary one in
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Speaker 9: rainfall in Pody Door lower huts also seeing a similar
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Speaker 9: extraordinary amount of rain flooding right across the region. Reports
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Speaker 9: of it helium balloon also somehow hit power lines in
22:10
Speaker 9: Pittorni that left several hundred homes without power trained disruption yesterday.
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Speaker 9: Wellington Water reporting wastewater leaks. So look, please do get
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Speaker 9: in touch if you have reports of flooding this morning
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Speaker 9: and we'll be assessing the situation shortly.
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Speaker 2: Goodness mate, stay dry at the EMS in Wellington for
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Speaker 2: US and Neva Rickimano's and Auckland. Good morning, Neva, good morning.
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Speaker 10: I have to ask you the story of the day
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Speaker 10: with my friends. Did you see that story yesterday from
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Speaker 10: the Herald about Kiwi's New Zealander's shower habits and whither?
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Speaker 10: You know, like do you shower? Do you need to
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Speaker 10: shower every day? And do you shower every day?
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Speaker 2: Yes? I shower once a day.
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Speaker 10: Do you shower it in the morning? No, So that's
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Speaker 10: what I shower every morning. It's called it to four
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Speaker 10: and no it might be three thirty. No, it's three
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Speaker 10: thirty three thirty every because it's part of my wake out.
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Speaker 2: How long does this shower take you?
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Speaker 10: That's ten minutes and I woke up earlier, even Leo,
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Speaker 10: the producer. Leo said, you need to just get up
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Speaker 10: and look.
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Speaker 2: At my hair. And I know your hair's done beautifully
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Speaker 2: every day. So how long are we spending on drying
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Speaker 2: on top of the ten minutes?
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Speaker 10: And now don't I don't dry my hair.
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Speaker 5: I just.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully you're drawing your body. D my body?
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Speaker 10: Yes, well no, that will take like five minutes and
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Speaker 10: then eighties music. But you see, I make that time
23:32
Speaker 10: for there.
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Speaker 2: So what does the survey say?
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Speaker 11: Or so?
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Speaker 10: The survey says over fifty percent of us have at
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Speaker 10: least a shower every day. Some have showered twice. Would
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Speaker 10: you have two shells and a few are showering three times?
23:44
Speaker 10: Which is too much and you're wasting water.
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Speaker 2: Depends what you're doing. If you're working with fish, three showers, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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Speaker 10: Or what about your workout too?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? You want to show after you work out? Do
23:52
Speaker 2: you know what I've always thought about? And my parents
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Speaker 2: in law, they are in there, seventies, seventies of not
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Speaker 2: quite seventy anyway, they're old.
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Speaker 10: Okay, oh you didn't say elderly.
24:05
Speaker 2: But I said to them, I said didn't you guys
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Speaker 2: used to smell, because they would They didn't forget showers
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Speaker 2: once a day. They would communal bath once a week.
24:14
Speaker 2: Everybody did, didn't People used to smell? And if you
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Speaker 2: went back in time, do you think you would walk
24:22
Speaker 2: around the street repulsed.
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Speaker 10: And then are two? They wouldn't be cleaning their clothes
24:27
Speaker 10: all the time for three days, not filthy. So did
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Speaker 10: they stink or not?
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Speaker 2: This is the thing.
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Speaker 10: What about the odor?
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Speaker 2: They said they didn't stink because they wouldn't know. I
24:37
Speaker 2: mean what, they never smell a clean person.
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Speaker 10: People would have been so nice to them. You see,
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Speaker 10: if that if we were back at the olden days,
24:45
Speaker 10: we were said, man, imagine if there was at zb
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Speaker 10: it ever, hundreds of people walking around with.
24:50
Speaker 2: The aliens smell cleanliness.
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Speaker 1: News and Views you Trust has done your day. It's
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Speaker 2: News Talk said oils up three percent overnight of affairs
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Speaker 2: of a more sustained conflict in the Middle East. And
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Speaker 2: we'll have chat more about that in a little second,
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Speaker 2: But first of all, a couple of texts from you
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Speaker 2: fourteen away from six now, Ryan, remember when smoking was
25:20
Speaker 2: banned in pubs you could smell the bo It was disgusting.
25:24
Speaker 2: We've just been talking about how many times a day's shower.
25:27
Speaker 2: After a story from Neva. Also the British TV host
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Speaker 2: Kirsty Elsip, she has been reported to Social Services. She
25:35
Speaker 2: hosts Location, Location Location because her sixteen year old son
25:39
Speaker 2: or he was fifteen actually at the time, went to
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Speaker 2: Europe with a mate and Social Services says that is
25:44
Speaker 2: too young. Ryan. My granddaughter wanted to go to Ravatonga
25:48
Speaker 2: for a holiday with her bestie. However you need to
25:50
Speaker 2: be eighteen to rent a room, so they weren't allowed
25:53
Speaker 2: to go. Ryan, I was sixteen when my parents sent
25:55
Speaker 2: me to the States on my own for two weeks
25:59
Speaker 2: to attend a sports I think that's slightly different if
26:01
Speaker 2: you're going somewhere arranged and another here from being. My son,
26:05
Speaker 2: Jaden is fourteen. He's off to Australia by himself next month,
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Speaker 2: though he'll be staying with grandparents.
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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ENSI Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for
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Speaker 1: New Zealand business.
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Speaker 2: We're odd enough to go to Australia and we're going
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Speaker 2: there right now. To Leslie Yeoman's The Australia Correspondent tell
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Speaker 2: us about this new right to disconnect, the new.
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Speaker 11: Law that's been brought in by the Albanesi government. It
26:34
Speaker 11: means that people don't feel like they need to be
26:37
Speaker 11: on call by their employer twenty four to seven. Now.
26:41
Speaker 11: The new laws came into effect yesterday. They apply to
26:45
Speaker 11: businesses with more than fifteen people and it means that
26:49
Speaker 11: mainly junior employees can refuse to be contacted out of
26:53
Speaker 11: work hours. The Australian Chamber of Commerce in Industry is
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Speaker 11: one of the employer groups that isn't happy with it.
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Speaker 11: They say the new laws aren't necessary. They're sort of
27:05
Speaker 11: trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. But the Greens,
27:08
Speaker 11: the ACTU and the government, they say these new laws
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Speaker 11: have been a long time coming because no worker, particularly
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Speaker 11: a junior employee, should feel like that they have to
27:18
Speaker 11: be taking phone calls or checking emails once they get
27:21
Speaker 11: home after.
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Speaker 2: Work, which I think is fair enough. Let's talk about
27:25
Speaker 2: the fifty cent fears on public transport across Brisbane. There's
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Speaker 2: still people evading them.
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Speaker 11: There are yes. Look, this trial was brought in in
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Speaker 11: just a couple of weeks ago. It was announced earlier
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Speaker 11: in the year. Nothing to do with a state election
27:45
Speaker 11: happening in thin Queensland later in the year, of course,
27:48
Speaker 11: that's what the government says. But this new trial was
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Speaker 11: brought in a couple of weeks ago and it ends
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Speaker 11: in February. And what's been happening is everyone no matter
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Speaker 11: where you travel on public transport and how far you travel,
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Speaker 11: your fair will be fifty cents as long as you
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Speaker 11: tap on and tap off. But there have been still
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Speaker 11: hundreds of fines for fair evasion being imposed. Plus there
28:14
Speaker 11: have been more than almost four thousand warnings to adults
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Speaker 11: and miners for not doing the right thing. Now, four
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Speaker 11: hundred and seventy five fines over two weeks out of
28:27
Speaker 11: the millions of trips being taken may not sound like
28:31
Speaker 11: a lot, but they're not that much down on what
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Speaker 11: the fair evasion figures were before these new fares, these
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Speaker 11: cheap fares were brought in. So it makes you wonder
28:44
Speaker 11: what is actually going on with people, you know, does
28:47
Speaker 11: the fifty is? It not a matter of how much
28:50
Speaker 11: the fare is, but it's just a matter of people
28:51
Speaker 11: trying to sort of play the system.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like there's a hardcore group of evaders,
28:56
Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter what the fear is, you will
28:59
Speaker 2: never make them pay. Leslie yeomans with us, our Australia correspondent.
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Speaker 2: And I guess the other thing is when you make
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Speaker 2: something so cheap, you know, fifty cents is nothing, you
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Speaker 2: kind of take the value out of it, don't you.
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Speaker 2: So you think, oh, well, who cares, it's only fifty
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Speaker 2: cents that they're missing out on, and before you know it,
29:14
Speaker 2: you're jumping over the turnstiles rain Bridge. Right, let's return
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Speaker 2: to our big story of the day. Big changes for
29:21
Speaker 2: the electricity sector on the way. A new regime for
29:24
Speaker 2: offshore wind is being developed except to be implemented by
29:27
Speaker 2: the middle of next year. A return a ban, I
29:31
Speaker 2: should say, on the oil and gas ban that was
29:34
Speaker 2: brought in under labor. National wants to undo it. However
29:38
Speaker 2: Labor won't support it. So how enduring is that for
29:42
Speaker 2: businesses who might want to invest in exploration here in
29:45
Speaker 2: New Zealand. We'll talk about that in a second.
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Speaker 4: Here is luxon A country like New Zealand with abundant
29:50
Speaker 4: natural resources shouldn't be in this position. And so the
29:54
Speaker 4: reality is, yes, we do need gas in terms of
29:56
Speaker 4: that firming part to our energy strategy. We obviously need
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Speaker 4: to double the amount of renewables that we have.
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Speaker 2: Ralph Smith is Messi University Professor Sustainable Energy. He's with
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Speaker 2: us this morning. Ralph, Good morning, Marina Ran, Thanks for
30:09
Speaker 2: being with me. Can we do this align with just renewables.
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Speaker 12: Yes, we can, because we've got such a resource of
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Speaker 12: renewables and this is the most opportunity because this is
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Speaker 12: climate carbon free and the other options the government's looking
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Speaker 12: at are really increasing our greenhouse gas emissions. And of
30:31
Speaker 12: course there's no decisions being made here. These are only
30:33
Speaker 12: things that the government is looking at, like reversing oil
30:37
Speaker 12: and gas exploration, importing liquefied natural gas, and they're technically
30:41
Speaker 12: possible to do. There's no guarantees we'll find gas, and
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Speaker 12: importing LNG is expensive, whereas we got the opportunity to
30:51
Speaker 12: develop our renewable energy generation to a greater degree.
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Speaker 2: We're also when you're talking about intimate and things that
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Speaker 2: aren't sit rain when Sun, I mean those are issues.
31:03
Speaker 2: That's why we're in this position in the first place.
31:05
Speaker 2: Right at the hydro levels.
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Speaker 12: It's always a concern with a renewable energy system, but
31:12
Speaker 12: there are bio energy plants that haven't even been mentioned where.
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Speaker 12: They're very common in Scandinavia, for example, where we're using
31:19
Speaker 12: the waste from the forest, we take out the logs,
31:22
Speaker 12: don't we leave the slash as it's called behind if
31:25
Speaker 12: we collected that as well, and you can store that
31:28
Speaker 12: and use it at any time. And that's exactly what's
31:31
Speaker 12: happening in Sweden, Finland, Austria, Germany. So there's another opportunity there.
31:37
Speaker 2: Okay, talk about light. How long before we can harvest
31:40
Speaker 2: the forests?
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Speaker 12: Oh, it's sitting there now. In fact, it's a project
31:45
Speaker 12: that we looked at twenty years ago. So the technologies
31:48
Speaker 12: that are easy to do. You just chip the slash
31:51
Speaker 12: and bring it out and then put it into the
31:53
Speaker 12: bio energy plant you're harvesting the.
31:56
Speaker 2: Where's the bio energy plant? Do we have one?
31:59
Speaker 12: This is a a good point about the decisions that
32:02
Speaker 12: are being looked at here is electric line companies can
32:05
Speaker 12: own more generation, so they could invest in bio energy
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Speaker 12: plants near to where the forest is and then generate
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Speaker 12: the electricity and sell that to their customers.
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Speaker 2: Fair enough point here, one, it was twenty years ago
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Speaker 2: you first looked at it. Why haven't we done it?
32:22
Speaker 2: And two that sounds like something that's away way off yet,
32:25
Speaker 2: don't we need guess in the meantime.
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Speaker 12: Well, gas is the we way off too. Genesis Energy
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Speaker 12: are looking to using bio energy in Huntley and to
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Speaker 12: replace it for coal, and they've done some tests on
32:39
Speaker 12: that already, so it's not that far off. Maybe if
32:42
Speaker 12: we look at LNG, it would take a long time
32:44
Speaker 12: to build a infrastructure which has got gas regasification, storage,
32:49
Speaker 12: distribution to accept the LNG when it arrives by boat
32:54
Speaker 12: and New Plymouth or whether it might be. And if
32:57
Speaker 12: we reverse the oil and gas exploration. We should know
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Speaker 12: here as well that although the oil and gas offshore
33:03
Speaker 12: ban came in then the existing permits were still going
33:08
Speaker 12: and companies were still looking for oil and gas right
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Speaker 12: the way through and on land as well.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think the problem there though, is that you
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Speaker 2: why would you look for something you're not sure you
33:18
Speaker 2: can actually get out of the ground and keep all
33:21
Speaker 2: of your resources here at the same time, Ralph, I
33:23
Speaker 2: appreciate your time this morning. Ralph Smith, Massy University, Professor
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Speaker 2: of Sustainable Energy. I should note that Hipkins and also
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Speaker 2: the energy spokesperson for labor whose name has just escaped
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Speaker 2: me have both declined woods as both declined to be
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Speaker 2: on the program today Get ahead of the headlines.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on early edition
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