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The Briony Akle Debate, Travel Rants & Bowel Screening Blues · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: Well, in the words of the great philosophers Handsome, you
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  Speaker 1: have so many relationships in this life, only one or
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  Speaker 1: two will last. You go through the pain and strife,
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  Speaker 1: then you turn your back and they're gone so fast. Well,
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  Speaker 1: at least one super netball coach is feeling the sting
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  Speaker 1: of that reality. This week where we're talking a lot
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  Speaker 1: about that. You're on No Dribble strap in Hello and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we talk about netball.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about so much more. I do have a
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  Speaker 1: handsOn reference in there because we talked about Hanson and
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  Speaker 1: Bob a few weeks ago, and our very young, hip
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  Speaker 1: cool producer Alex tells me that she's a Handsoon fan.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go with you thanks back.
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  Speaker 2: So I won't. I'm surprised we mentioned now.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's quite robust and she's at peace with
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  Speaker 1: her relationship with hands Anyway, she's an Bob fan and
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  Speaker 1: is grateful that I bring out the Christmas ceting. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: my name's Carolyn Swindle, I'm Cat Cocks, and I'm Gordy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm welcome, Gordian. Susan am Yeah so much.
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  Speaker 2: And tell us where you are because you look like
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  Speaker 2: you're fresh off the beach.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if you looked at my Instagram post last
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  Speaker 4: night you would know because I posted a picture of
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  Speaker 4: a bottle of bintang and a glass and said that,
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  Speaker 4: what do I say that? All you know all the
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  Speaker 4: netballers posting their bikinis, but this is my But did.
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  Speaker 1: You get my response? I only sent it about an
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  Speaker 1: hour ago?
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  Speaker 3: No, what did you say?
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  Speaker 1: Nice jugs? Classic a classic of the genre.
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  Speaker 3: Very good. Yeah, in Bali girls, you've just done a runner,
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  Speaker 3: haven't you.
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  Speaker 2: You've taken some time off your there by yourself. Tell
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  Speaker 2: what have you been doing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am over.
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  Speaker 4: I don't usually come here by myself, to be honest
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  Speaker 4: with you, but this is a bit of a runner
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  Speaker 4: because obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Colm Games is around the corner. So want to take
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  Speaker 3: a back breath?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, so, yeah, although I'm not as naked as I
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  Speaker 4: normally am, but with no general manager role sort of, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm better than normal. But what have I been doing?
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  Speaker 3: Like nothing?
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  Speaker 4: It's like nothing, seriously, So like I love going down
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  Speaker 4: the beach, So I go down the beach every day,
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  Speaker 4: same spot, same people, and yeah, podcasts, music, read a book,
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  Speaker 4: going to start another one today, and like, seriously, at nighttime,
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  Speaker 4: have dinner, go to bed.
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  Speaker 3: Last night was my latest night? What time was that about? Ten?
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  Speaker 1: And can you recommend anything?
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  Speaker 3: What are you reading? I read? I just read blind
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  Speaker 3: Side by James Patterson. Is that the movie?
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  Speaker 1: It's a great beach read.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an easy beach read. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Is it a movie?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're thinking of that Sandra Bullock movie
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  Speaker 1: which was great. The blind Side about this woman who
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  Speaker 1: ended up sort of semi adopting this poor kid and
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  Speaker 1: he then had this amazing career in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Really good movie.
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  Speaker 1: She and I think did she get an oscar for
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  Speaker 1: that or something? But this is James Patterson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good book.
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  Speaker 4: It was best seller, thriller. I've turned the pages. The
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  Speaker 4: worst thing about books though, on the beach, when the
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  Speaker 4: wind blows like the pages.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's why you've got to get your kindled.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have that. But the book.
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  Speaker 4: By the time I got to about page three hundred,
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  Speaker 4: I literally was holding the pages together. So I had
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  Speaker 4: to finish the book in the bedroom because I was
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  Speaker 4: a bit worried that I'd be chasing page three sixty
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  Speaker 4: down the beach.
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  Speaker 3: Knowing all about books. Yeah, I know that they end.
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  Speaker 2: That's the best part.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yea, yes, Hey, I wanted to tell you. I
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  Speaker 4: was thinking about this the other day. I go for
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  Speaker 4: a big walk every morning. That's the other thing I do, Catherine,
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  Speaker 4: I go for a big walk. And I was walking
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  Speaker 4: down towards the airport, and because this time of year
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  Speaker 4: in Bali, it's a little bit windy, and so they
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  Speaker 4: have a lot of kite like kite festival, so it's
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  Speaker 4: a big thing over here. And anyhow, as I was
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  Speaker 4: walking down that there's massive gathering and all the kites
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  Speaker 4: are being built, and you know, blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: And they do a lot of offerings. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: you've been cats. You've been to Bali, Carolin, you've been here, yep, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so you know the offerings.
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  Speaker 4: And they make the baskets out of the bamboo leaf
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  Speaker 4: and then they place in the flowers and they might
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  Speaker 4: put there's there's a certain number of things I have
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  Speaker 4: to put in there.
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  Speaker 3: I know, they put in some food like a biscuit,
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  Speaker 3: and they put in a cigarette. You know, the gods
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  Speaker 3: like to smoke, and all this sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Into vaping yeah, but it's still on the Alpine line.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Anyhow, speaking of the old pine lights. So I'm walking
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  Speaker 4: along and these two kids you can see. The dad
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  Speaker 4: said to them, go and take the offering down to
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  Speaker 4: the beach. And so the dad walks away and the
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  Speaker 4: kids are looking at it, and then the little kid
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  Speaker 4: says to the other kid, grab the cigarette.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, no, no, and then he does.
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  Speaker 4: He grabs a cigarette and pops it in his pocket
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  Speaker 4: and then walks down the beach and puts the offering
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  Speaker 4: on the beach. So he was going to go and
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  Speaker 4: have a little CIGGI. The two kids, I reckon they
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  Speaker 4: would have been I don't know, seven and eight.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, no, oh god. Anything happens in valley. It
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  Speaker 3: was so funny.
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  Speaker 1: So a few years ago, maybe seven or eight years ago,
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  Speaker 1: but it's been so long since I have smoked that.
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  Speaker 1: The menthol cigarettes now, like most cigarettes, have some type
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  Speaker 1: of menthol capability. There's just a little capsule in them
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  Speaker 1: that you squeeze and then that makes it mental. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: he used to have to go and specifically buy the
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  Speaker 1: Pine line to get that fresh mental flavor with your tobacco.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, now it's a little squeezy thing that you
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  Speaker 1: can take an ordinary gasper and turn it into a
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  Speaker 1: mental gasper. And it's not minty fresh everyone. It's not
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  Speaker 1: still not pleasant, so not at all, but it's cooler
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  Speaker 1: than vain.
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  Speaker 3: Catherine, where are you?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm in Queensland. I have just opened the window
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  Speaker 5: so you can see the beautiful you behind me. But
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  Speaker 5: we've been up north Queensland. My sister's got a place
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  Speaker 5: up there. We were up there for well like eight days,
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  Speaker 5: nine days, and we've just got back to the g.
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  Speaker 1: So did you say Bundy Way, like seventeen seventy round there?
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  Speaker 2: Is it all up Bundy Way?
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  Speaker 5: Yes? And the second night we walked into the local
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  Speaker 5: bowls club and I was just going towards our table
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  Speaker 5: and this woman goes Caperent and I turned around. She goes, oh,
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  Speaker 5: an issue and she was a dribbler and she just
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  Speaker 5: she had literally just driven up there.
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  Speaker 2: She goes, I've just been the podcast on the troop
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  Speaker 2: on the way here.
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  Speaker 5: And I kind of said your name, not thinking was
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  Speaker 5: actually you, but then you turned around and she said sorry,
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  Speaker 5: I'm having a moment.
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  Speaker 3: Oh how funny.
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  Speaker 2: It was brilliant dribblers everywhere and she's not do we here.
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  Speaker 5: Is what we do off season, we get out of that.
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  Speaker 5: So no, and the weather's been amazing. So we've done
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  Speaker 5: nothing else but same sort of things. Beach walks every morning,
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  Speaker 5: get a coffee, lie about dinners every night. We did
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  Speaker 5: go to it's been a bit embarrassing. Actually, they have
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  Speaker 5: raffle nights probably a couple of nights a week at
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  Speaker 5: the local club and they also do bingo.
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  Speaker 1: Love it.
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  Speaker 5: So first raffle night between our family, we won three
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  Speaker 5: raffle prizes and this is like fifty dollar ouches for
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  Speaker 5: the seafood place and meat trays, you know whatever.
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  Speaker 2: We won three. That was bad enough.
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  Speaker 5: Then Harper Mum, my sister and I went to bingo.
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  Speaker 5: Between us, we won eleven games of bingo. I added,
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  Speaker 5: what do you win when you win a bingo game?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, like like between five and fifteen dollars.
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  Speaker 5: So we walked out of there with death stairs, not
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  Speaker 5: from the locals, but also with all the change in
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  Speaker 5: the pocket. Then the night before we left Hasha, the
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  Speaker 5: night before we left, we went back for a final
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  Speaker 5: raffle ticket and a meal at the balls club.
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  Speaker 2: We ended up with five wins from the raffle. Well, wow,
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  Speaker 2: time to time to go.
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  Speaker 3: People were in the place pat that, oh you need
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  Speaker 3: to go and buy a lotto ticket.
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  Speaker 5: Now embarrassed, embarrassing, Like literally, by the end we've had
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  Speaker 5: seven year old smoking, ten year old's gambling. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 5: old lady said it was okay for her to gamble,
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  Speaker 5: so we're like, oh, they're approving, that's fine. But anyway, yes,
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  Speaker 5: it got embarrassing to the point that we had to
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  Speaker 5: We've got to have a little break from there. Can't
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  Speaker 5: show a great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's been good, gone by a lottery ticket.
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  Speaker 2: Might have to get onto that, do that acent And
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  Speaker 2: then what have you been doing since year of Carolin?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm, of course the fool who had my holiday
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  Speaker 1: before the Grand Final, Yeah, and then obliterated myself on
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  Speaker 1: the Grand Final. Weekends. I have just been I've had
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  Speaker 1: the quietest weekend. It has been very lovely. Actually, my
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  Speaker 1: mum and my stepdad arrived from New Zealand today, but
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  Speaker 1: we just we didn't do very much. We went out
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  Speaker 1: for dinner last night at six thirty, home by ten
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  Speaker 1: past eight, absolutely perfect. Sleeping in, yeah, but just trying
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  Speaker 1: to take a little bit of the frantic pace off
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  Speaker 1: while the kids are home. On school holidays. But they
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  Speaker 1: can go back to school next week.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm done.
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  Speaker 1: That's this been enough that they can go back and
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  Speaker 1: get further educated.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Carroll, they're all here in Bali. They're all here, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I bet they are.
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  Speaker 1: We did fight because we had our We had our
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  Speaker 1: holiday when we did because my son is doing his
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  Speaker 1: HSC so it was like best to lie in the
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  Speaker 1: first week of the school holidays and then he's been
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  Speaker 1: studying since. And we went up to punk Hove, absolutely beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: But we've discovered that as a family, what really unites
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  Speaker 1: us is picking people when we're around in public and
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  Speaker 1: hating them together, Like finding one person and going, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that person's really annoying me. I know it doesn't reflect
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  Speaker 1: that well on us. But we went to Hartley's Crocodile
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  Speaker 1: Farm and there was one kid who my son just
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  Speaker 1: de writing on it. And everywhere we turned this kid
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  Speaker 1: was there. It's like, oh, let's go in this direction
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  Speaker 1: because they've gone in that direction. Suddenly you turn around,
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  Speaker 1: we're standing next to the cassowaries and this kid is
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  Speaker 1: there giving his opinion again on stuff. And he was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was just young, very smart kid.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But it annoyed my son so much that the rest
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  Speaker 1: of us turned away from being annoyed at the boy
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  Speaker 1: and more focused on or how do we dial this
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  Speaker 1: up for Lewis? So I've done something that is probably
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  Speaker 1: it's probably not cool, but we've captured a fundo off him.
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  Speaker 1: So Louis is only get some socks this year with
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: a photo of the kid's face on it, and periodically
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  Speaker 1: both we keep texting him the photo for thisis he'll
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to.
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  Speaker 3: Boarding school soon.
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  Speaker 2: That is gold. You've got to turn it up a notch,
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  Speaker 2: don't you You can what you do I get?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know that that's not a game, that's a habit.
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  Speaker 4: I have that habit where I can, like I will
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  Speaker 4: just have an awareness of someone who's pissing me off,
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  Speaker 4: and I can't stop.
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  Speaker 1: Like completely unreasonable, Like there's no.
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  Speaker 3: Will in my head. It's not unreasonable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And Rose will say to me, she'd just like
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  Speaker 4: stop it, and I'm like I can't, like particularly on
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  Speaker 4: an airplane, airplanes where you can't get away, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and like you'll hear some lady telling a story about
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  Speaker 4: like it's always when you come to Bali and they're
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  Speaker 4: the bloody balley experts and.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they know couture and all this, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: just like shut up, Like if everyone knows, could tut
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  Speaker 3: you know whatever.
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  Speaker 4: I just can't stop Ago no, No, it's like you know,
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  Speaker 4: like thirty years ago. It's just one of the names
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  Speaker 4: over here, but Monday whatever. But you just you just
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  Speaker 4: hear them talking and I just like I put my
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  Speaker 4: earphones in because that's the only way I can stop.
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  Speaker 3: But I have that habit like your son.
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  Speaker 1: Well, where we flew back from Cans and it was
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  Speaker 1: a late night flies at last Thursday night before the
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  Speaker 1: weekend for the grand farm. There's it was quite an
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  Speaker 1: empty flight, so people spread out, which is great, but
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  Speaker 1: there's one kid lying there across the whole bank of
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  Speaker 1: seats watching the iPad. Great no headphones not great headphones
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  Speaker 1: on planes. Do not listen to something on a plane
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  Speaker 1: with ourt headphones on.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just we encountered this as well. But what's
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  Speaker 2: worse that it was a baby and they put freaking
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  Speaker 2: baby shark on nah with no headphones.
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  Speaker 3: That's unacceptable, watcher.
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  Speaker 2: It's actual torture. Unacceptable, it is, isn't it. I do
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  Speaker 2: not see that.
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  Speaker 4: I went through a period where as I would hop
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  Speaker 4: on the plane, I would get my phone out and
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  Speaker 4: I would post a Facebook like story explaining about everybody
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  Speaker 4: on the because it was like every time I hopped
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  Speaker 4: on the plane there was it was just like a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: And so I like and I felt so bad because
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  Speaker 3: but I had to get it off. So let therapal
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  Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, hey, speaking of planes, question, this is
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  Speaker 3: very appropriate that you spoke about a guy lying across
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  Speaker 3: four seats.
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  Speaker 4: So as we know, I'm I'm heading off to Glasgow
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  Speaker 4: next week, which we can have a chat about. But
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  Speaker 4: I've been looking at my seat on the plane. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know in advance, I have now you know, long
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  Speaker 4: long haul flights. I am in com and yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: So I have a question.
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  Speaker 4: So I looked last night where I went to bed.
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  Speaker 4: I've got to I've got a bulk head seat at
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  Speaker 4: the front right, so I've got good leg room, no
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  Speaker 4: one next to me. But at the moment, the plane
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  Speaker 4: looks empty, and I got a feeling that that's a
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  Speaker 4: little bit the way at the moment because a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people, like you know, flights aren't full going out.
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  Speaker 2: Don't risk it, don't risk it is that what you're
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  Speaker 2: going to say.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, so well yes, because there's like heats and
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  Speaker 4: heats and heats of rows of four just.
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  Speaker 3: Vacant like everywhere in the plane. And I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: what do I do? I do account hey, sick tight.
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  Speaker 2: Release till the eve of.
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  Speaker 1: But I even think then if the flights that empty,
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  Speaker 1: you'll be able to move, get up, and then if
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  Speaker 1: it's not those exit row seats. This is what when
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: we went to Europe last year, so good, got down
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  Speaker 1: my carry on bag, put that in fro of me,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: put my feet up, feet on that, and it was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to Land of Nod now.
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  Speaker 3: And there's the little person I was going to say,
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  Speaker 3: isn't every chair in exit roast seat for you on
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  Speaker 3: a plane?
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  Speaker 1: It's not. It's not the leg room. It's having the
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  Speaker 1: feet down the whole time for me. That that bothers me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just listen to you two on your holidays, having
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: a nice time. I'm here in the studio working hard.
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  Speaker 4: Goat.
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  Speaker 3: You'd laugh at these.
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  Speaker 4: Every time I stop on the plane with Rose. Rose
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  Speaker 4: would be like, I'd book the flights. And so if
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: we're sitting together, one of us is either going to
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  Speaker 4: be on the isle and in the middle, or window
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  Speaker 4: and in the middle. And so I'm like, you know, Rose,
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  Speaker 4: you don't travel as much as me, so you can
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  Speaker 4: suck it up and take a middle seat.
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  Speaker 3: And every time we'd hop on the plane, she would say,
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  Speaker 3: oh God, this is just like it's there's not enough
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  Speaker 3: room I need to sit in like an exit seat.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, Rosemary, you are five foot six or seven
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  Speaker 3: like it is here is like she got this perception
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  Speaker 3: that she she's so she's like, no.
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  Speaker 5: I'm quite tall.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, Rose, look at this man over here, his knees,
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  Speaker 3: you're around his ears.
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  Speaker 2: She's not.
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  Speaker 3: Every single time, I'm like, sit in the middle. Shut up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is very conversation.
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  Speaker 5: God might advice to you because I have I have
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  Speaker 5: done that before. Gordy, don't move because you'll end up
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  Speaker 5: with a family on either side of you. Stick with
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  Speaker 5: what you've got until the last minute. It's tempting, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't do anything until you get to the airport, and
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  Speaker 1: then charm the person who is cheating in and explaining
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  Speaker 1: the situation and let them give you an expert opinion.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: And they're always helpful if you're not an asshole to them.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: They block seats out for you.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Once I was flying back from Perth and I was exhausted,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: must have been a real early morning flight, and I'd
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: had something the night before, and so I paid to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: have the exit row seat. The plane was virtually empty,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and I was asleep with sort of leaning over onto
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the seat next to me. It was a two seater
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: in like a bank of two seats by the exit row.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I was asleep with my head on my bag. A
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: guy came up woke me up and said I want
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to sit there, and I'm well, well, I'm so annoyed
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: with myself. I just kind of acted annoyed with him
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: instead of like, well, what the hell, dude, I've paid
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: for this, you've woken me up. If you want to
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: sit here, you pay, go and talk to the flight attendants.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I did nothing except just sit there and be irritated.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: But what an arrogant But just he woke me. He
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: didn't even he didn't even go, oh, when she's awake,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I'll just go and sit there that. You know, if
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: that had happened, I probably wouldn't have been that worried.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: But it's like I've paid money to have this exit
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: row seat. No one else has paid money to have
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the exit row seat next to me. That doesn't mean
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: you just get to wake me up. Oh it's one
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of those one of those bloody fly in fly out
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: mining type.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we have a lot of them in
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: w A.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Oh so this has just been a lot of white
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: women rage this morning. We've had about eighteen minutes of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: moaning about the airlines and talking about children smoking and
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: kids we hate. But anyway, we should have a little
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: break and come back and talk about some network and
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about briani Acle. Ah yes, oh yeah, Okay,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: So I got to tell you this has been giving
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: me actually quite a lot of sleepless hours. I am
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: thinking about this. I am I get we're a professional
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: sport and that this stuff happens and that coaches get
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: moved on, but I am not happy about the decision
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: not to reappoint briani acor.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Where's that come from? I mean, none of us are, Carolyn,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: But what's your biggest gripe with it?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Well, my biggest gripe is that, well, look, I'm going
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to try to withhold some judgment until I see who
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: they are appointing next. Now, look, I get it, I'm
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: a Swifts member. I've been along to the games this year,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: but it's like we have a coach who, in what
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: she had nine seasons, coached them to Premiers twice. They
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: were defeated in the Grand Final by one goal. On
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a third occasion twenty five, they finished the regular season second.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: This year they've finished fifth, but both of the diamonds
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: in this team were injured for a significant part of
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the season. Helen Housby was out for most of the season,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: then they brought Grace White in, and then she was
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: injured for the last two games, and they still ended
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: up finishing just outside the four. I just think that
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: this is an entirely premature decision, and I would love
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: just unless they're bringing in someone with a perfect a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: really long track record that is perfect. I just think
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it's a bad decision.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Who's that exactly? No one like that exists will be interested,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: wonder who it is.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Then I think the if I put my old GM
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: hat on the decision to go to market on a
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: coach like this is the interesting one.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: The way that I was watching this from the out
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: so Briani I'm right in saying she actually applied for
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the role, is that right?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and said she wanted to yep.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you would like to think you'd like to
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: think that if they've opened up the role in the
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: sense and Brian and have said to Briani like we
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: want you to apply, you would like to think genuinely
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: that they thought she could potentially still hold the job. Yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: because otherwise you just you have those conversations, you probably
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: have them earlier so that there's the ability then to
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: prep departure appropriately, albeit probably quite uncomfortable. No coach likes
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: to be told see you later, blah blah blah. So
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: for me where I get where, I'm sort of trying
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: to get my head around this. And don't get me wrong,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: bry great coach and will continue to. I can't wait
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: to see what she does with the Silver Fans blah
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. But I just kind of go,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Surely the Swifts have handled this in the sense of
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: she's come in to interview, So when you say, Carolyn,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: you just hope it's someone that's going to step in
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: that's perfect. I'm probably going, well, whoever they've chosen they're
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: saying must have interviewed or been better than what Briani did,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: because you'd like to think that Briani went to the
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: interview with as equal an opportunity to get the role
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: as anybody else, because, like I said, otherwise, you would
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: handle this differently.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: So that's the only thing in my head. So can't
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: wait to see who it is.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, I can't wait either, And I'm really intrigued as
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: to when they'll announce this because not forgetting, players have
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: to sign contracts with clubs I think. I mean, the
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Swifts is a big powerhouse club. People want to play
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: for them, but this is going to be a really
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: pivotal appointment in what that looks like going forward. I'm
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: gutted for Briani, I'm guted for the club. I'm gutted
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: for former players. I'm guarded for sponsors because she had
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: such great relationships with a lot of those people. I
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: don't love the way it's been handled in terms of timing.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that that's how things are handled these days,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: but when do we get to celebrate Briannie Apele. We've
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: just missed a massive opportunity that've.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Had the Swifts, that had the gala dinner, I hosted it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: No one knew anything then, So I just don't want
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: this to be a moment that we have missed an
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: opportunity to celebrate Briani. Their decision has been made outside
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: the season as a change of poach, and that's it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That's the end of it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Like I think Briani was absolutely incredible in starting the
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: past players push when she took over as a head
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: coaching role and really getting a little bit more of
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: that legacy built. Because when I finished with the Swifts,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: I didn't feel a line to the Swift's a great deal,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: not a huge deal. We all do now, and it
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: was off the back of her passion say we have
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: got such incredible athletes as ex players of this club,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: we need to have them involved and we need them
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: to be a part of the storytelling in the history.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: And she was the big backbone behind that. What we
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: have now is an incredible group of ex players and
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: passion towards the club that brie built.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: You know, Kat's two things that pop to mind there
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: right like while you're saying that. So number one, whilst
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: it is sad Brianni can depart the club and know
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: and what an enormous legacy she leaves behind. And I
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: don't think that that like she won't she won't be
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: reflecting on that just yet. But what you're talking about
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: every club dreams of is to have that past player
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: connection and that the club is bigger than just the
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: sum of those there at that moment. And so I
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: think I think Briani will find time to eventually reflect,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: and I have no doubt many people will find her
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: to say that. But I also this is just ticking
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: over in my head as you were speaking. Briani's still
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: a young coach. Yes, yeah, I hope, and this comes
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: very much with my coach has had on. I hope
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: that the club have been able to give her the
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: right feedback as to why she hasn't been selected as
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: coach and that she can go away again in the
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: right time and actually go all right, If that's the case,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: how do I grow as a coach?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: What am I going to do about it?
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Because who's to say Brianie doesn't come back to the
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Swiss to coach.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: That's not an impossible feat, all.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Right, But it's what she does between now and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: that will be That's what defines her. You know what
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's going to be really defining. So I
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: don't know that this will be the end of Briani.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I think like there's not a huge amount of great
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: coaches this level, right, and so you see someone like
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Simone mckinness leave the game and you think, oh, I
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: don't know, Simone applied for the role, like who knows?
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but Simone very easily could still be
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: coaching an SSN club.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: But the willingness of.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Her to uplift her life and move this is always
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: one of the great difficulties in our game. And as
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: we know, Brian has got a big family and that
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: might not be overly easy.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: But what is it that she does.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Between now and potentially her next coaching opportunity, And who
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: knows where that's at, And like I said, it could
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: be at the Swift. So I just hope she's been
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: given I just hope she's been given honest feedback because
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I think that's so so important for all coaches' growth.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Whatever that is.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: It's a really good You raise some really good points
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: there about organizationally, how do you manage difficult conversations as employers?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: And that's you know, that's what we're looking at here,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: we are looking at an organization dealing with an employee,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and so you know, we are a professional sport and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: we have to deal with this personally. I think they've
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: missed a massive opportunity, like to say, Briani, next year
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: will be your last year if we do not have
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: a grand final appearance. So let's talk about what that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: looks like. So one, you're on notice, which I think
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: is a little bit unreasonable anyway, given her performance record
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: over the years. But if they wanted to do that,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to say, let's do it in your tenth year and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: then we can we can together exit you from this
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: role and then you can go, the fans can fare well,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: we can do it in an orderly fashion, like I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, when Julie Fitzgerald left last year
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of you know, totally of her own volition. That announcement
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: came at the end of the season and the club
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: were able to do something to farewell her at the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: doubleheader and at the beginning of the season. If I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: was Briany, I'm probably not feeling like going and letting
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: this shower me with love and talk about hashtag always
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a swift at the beginning of next season. Now, she
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: might be more mature than I am, and she might
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: be able to process these emotions a little bit faster.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: But I just I feel like there's been an enormous
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: lost opportunity to do this in a way that supports
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the way the Swift's organization presents itself as this heritage family,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you know, always a Swift, you know, all of that stuff.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I just I feel like this is a.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It could have been done very differently.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I agree, But I also have
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: the flip of the coin to go.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: That's that's the emotional side of all of us, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: that because we've all got a We've all the three
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: of us here have a connection to Brian in different ways, right.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: But I also know from an organization perspective that you know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: you don't get that all the time.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Actually you mostly don't get that, like mostly, and it
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter how long someone's but it doesn't happen.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: In rugby league.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It's like you're gone.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter midseason, you're gone. Now, we
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: rarely do that as a sport.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Will be very intrigued though, what the playing roster looks like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: because I feel like if you're going to make a
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: call like that on the coach, you need to be
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: that tough on this team.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: This team's been the same for a long time and
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: they're not getting results now.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: But dgually that's part of it though, cav maybe that's
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: and Carolyn, you know, like is that what the Swifts
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: have decided is that they do need to shift. They
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: can feel like maybe a different coach will have the
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: ability to like a different view and therefore a different
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: playing group, you know, I mean the phones are going
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: the phones are going crazy in the background, a player.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Movement frustrating, so you can't do anything about it. Just shit.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, at the end of the day,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: it's not just the responsible like the coach plays like
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: the game's grown so much so even like as an example,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: when I was at Fever, like Dan has a lot
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: to say, but my job was to recruit, so it
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: didn't matter whether I had a coach or not.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Like we've got a list management committee.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: We kind of we discuss, you know, you know, you
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: discuss your vision, you know, and then it's the role
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: of the recruiter to go and do that. And so
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: you know, I only used to pull Dan in every
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: once in a while if I felt he needed to
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: have a conversation with someone. So there's That's not to
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: say that the switch the Swiss will be heavily in
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: the process, irrespective of.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: What's been going on or who's been appointed as coach.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: And look at the maps.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You know they went into We almost started the season
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: without them having a coach, and Jared was able to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: come in. He was appointed once the entire team had
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you know, they were already locked in and he was
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: given here's your team, let's go, and did very well.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: So can I ask you both the question Dylan Nextip
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: was the assistant coach for the Swifts.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: If he is suddenly appointed the new Swift's head coach,
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: and we have three men as head coaches of the
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: national when there's only eight coaches available, what's your thoughts
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: on that?
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: So I'll answer this in this sense, I just want
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: the best coaches. I would like to think that I
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: would like to think that the there is like it's
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: not a male it's not a male female thing.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: For me, it's not at all.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: No, But you would like to think that we had
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: more pathways to support the women who are the majority
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: of the sport.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Right, Well, I think where my head goes straight away.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: And I was actually pissed about this. When afl W
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: started up. There was there, I don't know that there
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: wasn't a lot of female coaches. So afl W starts
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: and literally I don't want to say because someone will
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: come back and me go, now that's bullshit. But like
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: a lot of the coach's coaching positions were men, right,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: and so I'm like, okay, well where's the pathway for women?
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: So I feel like I felt very strongly about that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: So I guess on the flip.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Side of it, you know, And I mean I've worked
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: I work with Dan right so, and I know how
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: brilliant he is, So I don't have an issue, but
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: I just want to I want to know that the
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: best coaches are there in the league, and that probably
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: cas more teams promotes more opportunity as opposed to three
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: coaches being male in an eighteen competition. I just think,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: you know, we've got to keep this great vision of
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: our league growing.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: However that is, that's I'm sitting on the fence, yep.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I mean a couple of points. You know, afl W
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: came out of AFL, so it was not a women's sport.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: You know, netball has always been a predominantly female sport.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: The volunteers in it are predominantly female, so we should
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: be having more of our very senior coaches being female
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: than in AFL.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, AFL W, Sorry, AFL W.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Though there was a massive female system, it just like
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: that like the men in our gay it just wasn't
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: recognize So there was no shortage of women AFL coaches
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: around like they were they were there, you know, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: and and great, you know, you look now and there
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: are a lot of women coaches with opportunities at a
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: FL because the AFLD, like it got nasty, like and
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I think Nicole Livingston came in as the CEO, AM
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I right AFL. Yeah yeah, And and you know she
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: made a really concerted effort. From my understanding, this is
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: my memory, a balley memory at the moment, trying to
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: connect all the dots.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I just remember I just remember that that
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: like it. It actually really annoyed me at the time
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: when I was reading it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: So you just kind of think, like like give them
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: an opportunity, right, But then I guess, you know, don't
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: get me wrong, the men in our game are significant,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: are significant, and Dylan, Dylan's gone through everything, so if
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: he gets the job, I'll be fascinated to see how
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: he goes.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: No different to Jazz, But.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I think the question so when Jerah went in as
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the coach of MAVs, it was I think a big
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: step up for him. He'd done a lot of coaching,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: but this was the first time he had been He
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: hadn't been an assistant coach at this level as far
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: as I understand.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: So that was it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But they didn't have a flood of applicants for this position,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: So I think that's a separate thing. When I look
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: at the potential of Dylan being appointed as the new
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: South Wales Swift's coach, I would just hope that any
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: woman who could put a hand up and say I've
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: got two seasons as an assistant coach, as a specialist
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: defense coach with a team that has a poor defense
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: record in this last season, I'm ready put me in.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to be the head coach. I would hope
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: that a woman would be given the same sort of consideration.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, can't I can't draw a parallel
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: to know that. So you know, I look at what
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Dan and Jared have done and I think it's actually
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: quite exciting to have that diversity and to see the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: different ways that they coach and what and what they
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: bring to it. So for me, it's not about gender.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: It's about making sure that we're not fast tracking blokes
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: when if women weren't being given the same opportunities. So again,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I can't draw a parallel, So I can't say, oh,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that would be unfair because X, Y Z happened. But
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that's what I would need to see to go well, this,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: this is, this is not problematic.
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  Speaker 3: We should preface this conversation by saying, none of us
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: here on this screen have any I no, no, we
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: don't even know if he's who's got the job, not
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: at all, but no.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: But this is so, this is a lot of the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: chat in the Facebook group. There's a lot of and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Netbourne, New South Wales is well aware of
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the of the dismay among a lot of fans about
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Briany not being reappointed and the like, and you know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: there are you know, there's lots of speculation. Is Simone
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Mcinness coming back? You know, is Dame Noel in Tara
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: coming over here, none of which has any necessary substance
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: behind it, but this is this is reflecting the conversation
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that is going on there.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing I would say, if by chance Dylan
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: does get the role, the key thing and this is
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: the same with all coaches, but particularly Dylan, who's if
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: he does get this role, and I guess the level
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: of inexperience that sits in his coaching is that he
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: builds a really good mentor system around him that will
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: be so critical And a lot of coaches do this,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: and a lot of coaches don't do this, but I
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: think it's it'll be critically important that because you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: sitting as an assistant coach is one thing, but when
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: you are put in the driving seat, it's not about
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: game day coaching. Game day coaching is probably that's the
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: fun part, but it's everything that sits either side of
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: that game day coaching, in running a high performance system,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: managing staff, managing athlete you know, individual athlete relationships.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: It's a beast of a job.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: And I think a lot of coaches that step in
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: in their first year at like an SSN level are
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: quite shocked at the enormity of the role and you
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: step away, you know, you're stepping up from either A
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: being an assistant coach or b being the coach of
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: a state league program or whatever it might be, and
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: then realizing, hold on, I've actually got to run this
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: all day, every day, and I mean that it's seven
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: days a week with very very little downtime, So it
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: is a massive role.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: One of the prime examples is probably Dan Ryan right
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: when he was first with the other Aid Thunderbirds, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: he was he thrown into that right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: At the end.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Was that when no, no, no, he wasn't thrown into it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: But at that point in time, the high performance system
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: that was in place at the Thunderbirds was greatly lacking
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: to the point they didn't have a Yeah, they didn't
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: have a general or a high performance manager like he
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: had minimal staff.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah he yeah, And he was an inexperienced coach.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: And he'll be the first to say them, Yeah, person
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: the same coach, but what those extra years and the
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: support around someone the difference that can make.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And he went and did work on him, you know,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: he went did work, He went overseas, he coached. Yeah,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: but he'll be the first to tell you that you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: when he stepped into the role at Fever Like he
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: was blessed that the club, not dissimilar to the Swiss,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: has a great system and good people in it. But
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: he's still had a lot of work to do and
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: to learn. You know, he had a lot to learn
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: when he first came in and managed. But he's and
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: he continued, he's a real and again you would like
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: to think that anyone stepping into this Swiss role, you
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: just have to be you have to be a learner.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: You want you have to want to continue to you know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: learn as a coach constantly.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and look at an even more chaotic year than
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: than usual to start a job of this size, because
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: we've got you know, it looked looking like next year's competition.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Each team's going to look quite different to what looks
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like this year. But you know, we'll just finish off
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: this conversation now saying Briani. Beethoven composed nine symphonies legend,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: hundreds of years later, nine seasons legend. But I think
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: that the whole comp thunderbirds need to be thanking Briani.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Firebirds certainly need to be thanking Briani. If you've got
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a Kiwi in your team. You need to be thanking
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Briani Akle because it was only the work that Briani
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: did with Grace Wecki and Grace's courage to be able
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to step away from the New Zealand system and say
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I will put myself out of contention for silver ferns
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: selection because I believe that this environment here will support
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: my development more. Now, as a result of that, New
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Zealand had to change their selection criteria for silver ferns,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: which then allowed us to have all of these extraordinary
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: New Zealand athletes, making them move over here and joining
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: our competition. So I think that the legacy of Briani
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: acle goes well beyond the New South Wales Swifts and
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I look forward to being able to celebrate that at
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the appropriate time for the whole sport to pay tribute
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: to that appropriately.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Here's jeez, well we got through.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: We're swearing, I thought, but look, let's take a little
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: break and come back, and I have to tell you
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: something terribly exciting that's happened to me in the past week. Okay, So, Catherine,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you turned fifty this year. Did you get your invitation
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: from the Australian government just thend them a little pooh sample.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: I did get one to do a little boob squeeze
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: and one horrendously uncomfortable machine. But I think as I
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: had already had a test recently, they might have thought,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: we'll give her a break on that one.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Did you get one recently?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I did get one recently, so mine arrived. So you
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: start getting these after your fiftieth birthday arrived in a
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: very cruel twist of fate, on the day I turned fifty,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: So it was like, oh, well, thanks very much for that.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate. If I was not aware that I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: was middle aged today, I certainly am now. But anyway,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: so I got another test recently, and then I messed
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it up, so I had to order another one that
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: came through and messed it up. We need more mess
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: it up, Okay, So what they send you is a
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: little vial with a stick on the end, and you
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: put you there's a piece of paper that you put
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: into the toilet bowl that the instructions say, do we
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: first and then put this paper in, and then when
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you do a poop, it will fall on that. You
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: get your little stick, you put it in. They on'tly
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: need a little bit you put it in, no problem,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: super easy. But I'm not that regular, so you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: sometimes it happens for me and sometimes it doesn't. I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: might have had a little bit of Afer Foremancey anxiety.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: The paper was down, nothing showed up, and then I
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: just had to go, well, I can't sit here for
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: three days in the hope that that that this happens.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: So it was just that I had to flush away
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the piece of paper, so I had all of the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: other stuff, but just they sent me another one. Yep, exactly,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I just it's it's you need the paper.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: The paper is a critical component of this because you
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to be putting your hand in the ball
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and picking it out and anyway, So I did it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: You've got to do two samples. They want them to
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: be done within about three days. I did it, and
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: then yesterday afternoon I thought, I'm going to go to
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the post office and I had my cap my bag
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: of capsules to go back to an espresso for recite.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Clang had to pick up the dry cleaning from one
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: of those wonderful machines where you plug in your number
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: and it comes out like you're in the Jetsons or something,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and I said to Dot, I'll just grab the grab
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the mail. We'll walk up to the post office. And
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: she grabbed the little envelope that it's in. It's a
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: little padded envelope, gave it a squeeze and she said,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: is this a scrunchy And I said, oh, no, darling,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: and I made a hand it to me and I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: said it's my Pooh test. And she acted like she
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: almost vomited on the spot. I thought, for a.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Moment you were going to say you'd sent the capsules
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: back to an espresso instead of Yeah.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I think we're very fortunate to live in a country where,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: for free you can send off this sample and they'll
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: look at it and tell you if there's a problem,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and then if there is a problem, we had free
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: health care to help you deal with it. So I think,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: embrace all embrace all the opportunities to send people a
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: sample a ship through the mail.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh, post deserve more money these days, don't they.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It's just so funny. But she was so sure I scrunchy.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a comedy skip.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Anyway. Everyone needs to look after their health, have your
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: regular tests people. Anyway, I think that's probably all we've
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: got time for for a Wednesday.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: It was a.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: A great relief to have a laugh after the emotion
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: about netball segment. But Gordy, you're going to stay with
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: us until Friday and come back for another chat on Friday,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: So I think we'll sign off now, and thank you.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I'm Carolyn sw I've got got I'm so Gordian. Bye,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Shou