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179 // Hashimoto's in Teenagers: How Estrogen Dominance and Gut Health Drive Early Autoimmune Disease [Interview with Dr. David Bilstrom] · Health with Hashimoto’s - Thyroid or Immune Education for Autoimmune Thyroid Disease

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Our guest today on the Health with Hashimoto's podcast is going to tell you
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if you fix these things early enough, ideally by age 18, you prevent disease
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in adulthood and even help future generations.
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He's going to tell you about how anxiety, panic, and a brain that won't shut
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down are all part of a rev without calm pattern tied to hormone imbalance and Hashimoto's.
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And most of all, he's going to give you hope and practical solutions.
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Today on the podcast, I have Dr. David Bilstrom. Welcome to the Health with Hashimoto's podcast.
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This is where you will find clarity and simple, sustainable strategies to feel better.
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I want to help you figure out your root causes.
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My name is Esther Yunkin. I am a registered nurse.
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I spent about 17 years in the emergency department and then got sick and tired
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of putting Band-Aids on chronic things.
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I went back to school and now I have been in holistic health education for about 10 years.
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I know how exhausting it is to live with fatigue, brain fog,
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and the ups and downs of Hashimoto's. And that is why I'm here.
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I'm here to cut through the confusion and to give you practical steps that support
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your body, calm your immune system, so that you can regain your energy and feel like yourself again.
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Today, we are talking about teenagers, hypothyroidism, and Hashimoto's with Dr. David Bilstrom.
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Dr. David Bilstrom is a quadruple board certified physician and a nationally
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recognized expert in functional and regenerative medicine. He spent nearly 30
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years helping patients reverse autoimmune disease by treating the root causes, not just the symptoms.
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He is especially passionate about helping kids and teens reset their health
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early so they can prevent chronic illness later in life.
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And he has shown that by supporting the body's natural systems,
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it is possible to change the trajectory of autoimmune conditions like Hashimoto's
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for this generation and the next.
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Welcome, Dr. Bilstrom. Tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do.
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Well, I'm trying to change the way that autoimmune disease is dealt with worldwide.
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And a relatively small goal, but it's going to take me a while, I think.
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Unfortunately, I'm already a thousand years old, so I got lots more time to go here.
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But yeah, and so we're trying to teach people that we know where autoimmune
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disease comes from, including Hashimoto's.
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And I got to say, Hashimoto's is probably my favorite autoimmune disease to reverse.
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Kind of right up there with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. maybe a little more fun than autism.
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And then all the other ones are kind of like super fun, but I love Hashimoto's. Reversal.
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But I think Hashimoto's is a great example of autoimmune disease in general.
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But in addition to telling people, you know, hey, the science is very clear,
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kind of like your podcast mentions, Nanwu, right? This is the science.
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This is the science. The science is very clear about why people get autoimmune
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disease like Hashimoto's, but also very clear how we can reverse the process.
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And it's so important to reverse the process and try to make it go away completely
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if we can, because what drives one autoimmune disease drives other autoimmune diseases.
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And truly the big picture is it's not like hundreds of different autoimmune
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diseases out there. It's really one disease that can attack any body part.
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And so I've seen women in their teens with six autoimmune diseases already.
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I've seen eight-year-olds with four autoimmune disease was already. And.
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To your point, though, we can fix this stuff early enough, like ideally lock
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the system in place by age 19 as optimal.
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We really prevent all kinds of disease as an adult, whether it's depression,
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anxiety, cancer, you know, anything you don't want by setting the system.
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But also we can do that before someone conceives a child.
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We're actually passing on better health the next six to eight generations,
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which is really powerful for the individual, but then really powerful for their
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future and then even future generations.
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If a parent is listening, what would they be looking for in their daughter?
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And I'm assuming sons, too. But when I talk about Hashimoto's,
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I talk about puberty, pregnancy, and perimenopause.
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So what symptoms would a parent be looking for?
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And then what's the first action they should take? Yeah, so a really big driver
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of all autoimmune disease, including Hashimoto's, and one reason why,
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one of the two big reasons why women get 80% of all autoimmune disease is a
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hormone imbalance called estrogen dominance, where women have too much estrogen
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compared to progesterone.
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Now, both estrogen and progesterone, vitally important. Every cell in the female
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body has receptors for that, male body as well.
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So it's really important. But it's a great example of balance is so important
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for the body, including hormone imbalance.
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So sometimes it's not so much what this hormone is doing, that hormone is doing individually.
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It's, well, how do they compare to each other? So I call this estrogen dominance
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the most dangerous disease for women. Because truly, if you look at the top
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10 reasons why women die, this estrogen dominance is probably a part of about 90% of all that.
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Not just cancer, not just autoimmune disease, but heart attack,
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stroke, osteoporosis, Alzheimer's, dementia, all these kind of things are all tied into this thing.
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So how estrogen dominance looks in a woman, typically one of the big ways is
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hormonal menstrual issues.
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So if any woman, including, let's say, somebody who just started their cycles
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in their teenage years, for example, if they have bad flows, bad cramps,
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pre-menstrual syndrome, ovarian cysts, polycystic ovarian syndrome,
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fibroids, endometriosis.
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Fibrocystic breast disease, and then this is even tied into infertility,
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any of those hormonal menstrual things, you know that person's got estrogen dominance.
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And you look at that, and a few generations ago, that was kind of unusual.
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But now it's almost like, well, what woman doesn't have at least one of those,
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right? Or multiple runs, right?
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Now, the other thing that shows up as because estrogen is a hormone that revs
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the system. And most hormones rev the system.
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Estrogen revs the system. Progesterone calms the system.
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So estrogen dominance also shows up as excessive worry, anxiety.
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Like people will say, I'm just a worrier. You know, I'm just feel so anxious,
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you know, but also panic attacks.
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And then because the brain won't shut down because you got the Rev Without Calm,
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this can impact sleep negatively.
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Jeez, I just can't shut my brain down. I kind of, I'm thinking about stuff all the time.
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Any of the Rev Without Calm stuff is also estrogen dominance.
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So this stuff, estrogen dominance looks like this. right without calm,
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hormonal, menstrual, long before it turns into Hashimoto's and autoimmune disease.
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So we see these things coming, but people don't know what these symptoms tell
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us. They don't know what estrogen dominance.
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They don't know where it's going to go, including women with estrogen dominance
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before menopause have not twice the risk of breast cancer as anybody else,
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not three times, not four times the risk, has a 5.4 times greater risk of breast
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cancer before menopause,
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and a 10 times greater risk of dying of a malignant cancer,
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the kind that start one place and metastasize, terrible ones,
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10 times greater risk of dying of malignant cancer their entire lifetime.
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Yuck. Above and beyond, wow, this is one of the big reasons why 80% of people
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that get autoimmune disease are women.
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And so you see this stuff coming, and I say, well, women need to know this.
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Parents need to know this about their female daughters entering starting reproductive
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years, because it's not just crummy stuff already, but it's like,
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ooh, we have this beautiful flag that goes up that we need to fix this because
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nobody needs the Rev Without Calm stuff. That all stinks.
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Nobody needs the hormonal menstrual thing. That stinks, but we don't need it
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to develop into this stuff.
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But once we know sort of what this stuff is telling us, we're like,
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oh, okay, let's go fix it.
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Now, typically that's not the way that Standard, more traditional allopathic medicine does it.
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You know, oh, you got all these hormonal menstrual things. Well,
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let's put you on birth control pills.
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They're estrogen-based, so they make it worse. Well, let's put you on some Xanax
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or some Ambien. That'll take care of your anxiety or insomnia.
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And it's like, well, okay, you feel less anxious. That's cool.
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You sleep there. Well, that's cool.
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But you missed this beautiful opportunity to fix it and prevent that cancer
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and prevent that autoimmune disease.
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And so this is like great stuff to know, I think, because we're like,
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hey, let's stop this Hashimoto's before it even starts.
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Especially if you have a parent with an autoimmune disease already.
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Because really all autoimmune diseases are really one disease that just shows
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up in different people different ways, it'll show up in different ways in different
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people in the same family, right?
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And so what they see is, for example, rheumatoid arthritis is very connected with Hashimoto's.
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So you like to get rid of Hashimoto's so you don't develop rheumatoid.
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Well, let's say a parent has rheumatoid. Well, their child has a 5.4 times greater
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risk of developing type 1 diabetes, the kind that require the insulin shots and pumps.
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So if we see a parent with an autoimmune disease, we'd love to see the children.
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Okay. Is that for male and female children?
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Yes. Yes. Now, also, what may happen is maybe the child develops the type 1
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diabetes of the Hashimoto's first, before the parent even gets the rheumatoid, right?
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And so you're like, well, if we see a kid with autoimmune, we'd like to see the parents too.
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Because then let's prevent them from getting that. And that would go a long
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way also, whether you're coming at it from one direction or the other,
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really helping women prevent breast cancer, which I'm also so passionate about
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because nobody talks about preventing breast cancer.
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All you ever hear, like the entire Breast Cancer Awareness Month,
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early detection, early detection, early detection.
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And I sit there, now I've made videos about this, so I don't just sit there
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and listen. I sit there and I go, tell us.
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You're sitting there telling everybody, a supposed expert, that you're just
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going to not do anything at all to prevent a woman from getting breast cancer.
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Nothing at all. You're just going to sit there and wait, wait,
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wait, wait until she gets it.
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And then, all right, we detected it.
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We did what we're supposed to. And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no.
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So this is lovely because what we're talking about with this Hashimoto's is
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if you're preventing it or you're reversing it, you're also doing your due diligence
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to prevent other autoimmune disease and breast cancer.
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Right. So actually, I have an episode on estrogen dominance,
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and it's one of my most popular episodes. I believe it's episode 69.
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And I talk about environmental toxins, all the things that we put on our skin, and then liver health.
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Is that where you go with your patients, or do you have a different approach?
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You know, there are very specific things that tend to create autoimmune disease.
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A big one for all stuff happens to be the gut, right?
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The gut's such a central mechanism for anything. You know, so if you're seeing
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somebody with brainy stuff, and all brainy stuff is just brain stuff.
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It's all kind of the same thing, just shows up differently. A little bit like
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autoimmune disease. Well, it can show up different body parts, right?
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Well, brain stuff shows up different ways to different people.
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It's all just brain stuff.
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So you got brain stuff. First thing I'm thinking about, what's going on in the
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gut? There's such a big gut-brain connection. Well, there's also a huge skin-gut connection.
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Hey, you got some skin stuff? 95% of the time, I'm thinking,
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what's going on with your gut?
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80% of the immune system surrounds the gut. You got like immune system stuff.
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I'm thinking, what's going on with the gut?
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Now, when the gut gets thrown off, it's hard to detoxify.
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And when you make a healthy new hormone like estrogen, like estradiol,
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let's say, one of the three estrogens that women might make during their lifetime,
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estradiol is great because hormones keep away inflammation, keep away disease by doing that.
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So estradiol prevents heart attacks and strokes.
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It prevents cataracts and macular degeneration, prevents osteoporosis, the gut needs it.
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It prevents fine lines and wrinkles on the skin. Lovely hormone.
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But you make estradiol, and it does this work. But once this gets kind of circling
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the system for a while, it just ding, gets beat up.
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Now it's irritating and toxic. So it's not like the very first menstrual cycle of a woman.
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Estrogen is made by the ovaries. The ovaries go, okay, I'm done.
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I'm done for the rest of my life. Okay, I did my... It's like, no, no, no, now.
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We're going to get rid of the old toxic stuff because it's going to turn that
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way. But you got to keep making the new healthy stuff, right?
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Ideally for a long, long time.
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So, you dump old toxic things, toxins in general, kind of like to your point,
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toxic estrus into the gut, so you can poop them in the toilet because most toxins
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have to lead through pooping.
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But if you get the leaky gut, antibiotics, stress, metformin,
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birth control pills, all these other things that create this leaky gut,
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infections, well, you can't get rid of the old toxic estrogens.
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And they reactivate and reabsorb back in the bloodstream and start building over time.
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Now, before that even typically happens is we live in a very stressful world, right?
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And you're talking about emotional stress, including young people.
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You know, I might say to parents with a child with rheumatoid arthritis,
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and they're like five, six years of age. And I talk about the stress hormone cortisol.
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And I say, well, children's lives are very stressful. And they're like,
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what are you talking about? That's a six-year-old, stressed in their life?
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And I'm like, well, now I'm a thousand years old, right? So this is very old news.
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But when I was a kindergartner, if you were a good napper and you played well
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in the playground, A plus student.
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Yes. And fortunately, I was a good napper and played well in the,
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and so I started out pretty decent there. I was like, all right,
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I can nap and I can play nicely with others.
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But nowadays it's like, okay, three years of A's, let's learn to read.
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Let's just start doing some math.
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Okay, come on, get to school here now. Come on now, come on now. No napping.
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We got, it's just even that, right? It's like that.
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But then again, kind of to your point, We live in a really toxic world.
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We're full of environmental toxins.
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That's terribly physically stressing to the system, right?
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Disrupted guts because of early recurrent use of antibiotics.
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But now you've got a disrupted gut. That's physical stress.
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Vitamin deficiencies because the guts disrupt. You can't get nutrients out of your food.
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Well, all these physical stressors, vitamin deficiencies, gut disruption,
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toxins, those are 24 hours a day, seven day a week, month after month stressors
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to the system. So they kick up the stress hormone cortisol and get stuck in the stress moment.
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And we never heal well or at all when we're stuck in the stress mode.
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It's fight or flight mode, life or death mode. There's a bear chasing me,
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trying to kill me mode, you know?
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And so the hormone production cascade that makes cortisol, it's called the steroidogenic
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hormone production cascade,
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actually starts with a compound made by the liver called cholesterol.
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We'd be dead without cholesterol.
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It's a bad name, but it really shouldn't. We'd be dead without it.
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So from cholesterol comes a very important hormone, pregnenolone.
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They call it the mother hormone.
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Because then from pregnenolone, here comes DHEA, keeps the way joint pain,
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artichokes and strokes, keeps your brain sharp, bones strong.
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Here's estradiol, here's estrone, estrogens, here's testosterone, here's progesterone.
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All these important hormones, same production cascade.
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But what happens when cortisol gets stuck in the stress mode is cholesterol
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will tend to shunt towards cortisol production.
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And over time, these other hormones are the same hormone production cascade, aren't being made.
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The very first one that drops is progesterone.
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So typically, before the estrogen is ever rising, progesterone starts dropping
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because stress, stress, stress, physical, emotional, spiritual,
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even by the time a woman starts her menstrual cycles, that cortisol oftentimes is stuck.
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Progesterone is going to be dropping, estrogen rises, and that's kind of that
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double whammy. And so one of the hallmarks is fixing the gut.
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Fix the leaky gut so that you stop accumulating old toxic estrogens.
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Maybe use something to help run detox pathways like fully methylated B vitamins,
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the supplement DIM, broccoli extract, helps with detox.
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Create that calm. Get rid of physical stressors. And so you have these infections
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that drive all autoimmune disease.
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And then progesterone, cortisol goes, oh, that feels so nice.
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Oh, thank you. and then progesterone production comes up and the estrogen dominance
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is taken care of, menstrual hormonal stuff goes away because now you got this
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lovely calming hormone without this excessive revving hormone, sleep like a baby,
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super chill, which always feels nice.
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But then also when that happens, you're sleeping like a baby,
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you're super chill and these hormonal menstrual things go away.
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You know you took care of, well, you can, you always want to check blood tests.
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I love the blood test, but you know by the symptom control that you really got
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to handle on this estrogen dominance.
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And then you really got a handle on what we need to do to reverse Hashimoto's
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if it's already there or prevent Hashimoto's, other autoimmune disease,
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and cancer from coming down the line.
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All right. Wow. So that was a lot. So taking away, like the two biggest things to look at is stress.
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And we're talking body, mind, spirit, diet, environment. They're all,
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they can all have stressors. So we're looking at stress and we're looking at the gut.
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And those are the most important things to do for estrogen dominance.
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And helping your estrogen dominance is the most important thing that you can
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do for prevention of tons and tons of things, including Hashimoto's. Did I summarize that?
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That is beautiful. Now, this is also why we use progesterone quite a bit,
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prescription medicine, bioidentical progesterone.
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We'll do the blood test. We see that progesterone's tanked. We'll see that estrogens
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are either, you know, okay or they started to rise already.
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And people aren't sleeping. They're anxious. They have panic attacks maybe,
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hormonal menstrual stuff.
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But one of the things we'll do is put them on progesterone. Now,
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it's temporary because they can make it on their own eventually,
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like I just kind of pointed out.
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But by doing that and putting them on the right dose within two days usually
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we kind of say five but usually within two days you'll be sleeping like a baby you'll be so calm.
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Wow does your body like that and anything we do
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to create calm whether it's meditation or getting on nature or whatever is going
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to help to buy put be put in a position to fix anything all this stuff and then
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it's so much easier to reset cortisol because cortisol has all these hormone
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friends but almost all of them rev well if cortisol doesn't have its good friend progesterone,
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like where's it going to find calm it's kind of like if all your friends in
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your neighborhood that you hang out with are all like wired.
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You could be wired too. But if you have all these chill friends,
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you're like, oh, I love being around my friends. They just bring me down to earth.
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And so that, and I was like, why ask for the people, if there's no progesterone
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cortisol is going, oh man, how am I going to find calm? Give some progesterone temporarily.
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Oh, that's lovely. Well then, boy, does that allow the body to get in this position
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fast to start turning all this stuff around.
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Eventually you start making progesterone
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on your own. You don't need the progesterone. You're good to go.
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That kind of thing. So I usually hear about hormone testing as people are entering menopause.
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Are you saying you actually do hormone testing and progesterone in teenagers?
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Every person that has an autoimmune disease, because hormone deficiency or imbalances drive it in everybody.
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So I'll check, well, DHEA, pregnenolone, estradiol, estrone,
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the two estrogens, progesterone,
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total and free testosterone, and a protein called sex hormone binding globulin
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that binds up hormones, ideally to protect us from excess.
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So if you get these high estrogens, the body tries to bind them up to prevent
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them from hurting us in this situation. The body is so smart.
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And it kind of tells us how much the body is trying to bind up something that's
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toxic to the system based on the level of that sex hormone binding gland.
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I'll check that on everybody. As long as the woman started her menstrual cycles, not before.
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Now, I've heard that teenage boys, due to stress and dietary things and environmental
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toxins, they're also having more and more estrogen.
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Do you do the same testing for boys, whether or not they have Hashimoto's,
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or how do you approach the boys in your practice? Yeah, once they reach puberty,
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we check all those hormones as well.
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You're right, because we see this really funky thing where women are losing
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estrogen and gaining testosterone.
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More like in the 30s, 40s, 50s,
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maybe 40s and 50s. And guys are losing testosterone but building estrogen.
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And this is where at least 10% of breast cancer is actually in men nowadays.
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And those hormone balances drive tons of stuff, including testosterone deficiency.
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You know, ideally you want to be 800 to 1100 in a guy.
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A couple of generations ago, 70-year-old might be like 680.
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But now I see so many 18 and 20-year-old men with testosterone under 200.
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Oh, my goodness. They are feeling terrible, as you can imagine.
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For women, the hormones are a lot more, well, women are kind of more complex
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than men. Men are kind of a bunch of cavemen walking around going ugh and grunting a lot.
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So women have this hormone symphony that's very important, right?
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But very challenging to stay really good.
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And this is one reason why when you go check hormones in women,
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whether they have Hashimoto's, autoimmune disease, other kind of things,
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or it runs in the family, you want to take a look at the entire hormone symphony all at the same time.
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Because you got to look at everybody in the symphony and see who's going to
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be messing people up, who's already messing people up.
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Where in guys, it's kind of like, okay, dude, do you have testosterone?
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If you don't, you probably could be a grumpy old man, even if you're a 22-year-old or a 30-year-old.
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You're not old, but you are a grumpy old man already.
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So a funny thing that happens in my clinic all the time, so the health questionnaire
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I ask people to fill out, one is irritability, along with memory,
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concentration, sleep quality, energy, all these kind of things.
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So a guy will come in because his wife told me he had to, okay?
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And they're sitting there, and I go, oh, you know, here, sir,
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you rated irritability at 1 to 10. tends to work, you rate it a two.
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And the wife goes, a two?
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And he's like, I'm not a two? And she's like, oh my gosh, a two.
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I'll give her an eight to nine, if anything. He's like, really?
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I'm like, yeah, we got to fix that because this isn't going well for you and
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your relationship here. No kidding.
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When do you test? In a female cycle, is there a specific week of her cycle?
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And then guys, when would you test?
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So guys, anytime, because they don't tend to cycle like women do.
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But for women, when you want to really get a good look at estrogens and progesterone
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and that hormone symphony, day 19 to 21 of the cycle, with the first day of the flow being day one.
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Now, people have crazy, bad timing of their cycles.
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You know, you go, oh, you cycle every 17 days.
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Okay, so we're like, okay, we know you got estrogen dominance.
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We know your whole symphony is messed up.
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So we're like, okay, well, I tell you what, let's fix it a little bit first.
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Because we really don't have this great window of opportunity to look at those
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things. We'll fix that. We'll start fixing the gut.
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We'll start getting rid of the infections that have already gotten into your
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thyroid, driving the Hashimoto's or getting into your joints,
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driving the rheumatoid arthritis. We'll start getting rid of the infections.
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I use this product out of Canada that is an absolute game changer to get rid
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of the infections that drive autoimmune disease.
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And they go, oh, I'm starting to feel better. Okay, I got this stuff going on.
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The TPO antibodies and the thyroglybine antibodies are starting to drop.
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You know, hey, your TPOs are 480, the first blood test, and the second blood test are down to 240.
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And your thyroglybines are 84. Now they're down to 53. Okay,
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we got you on the right track.
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Now the cycles kind of get to where they're supposed to You know,
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hey, my cycles are back to 28 days, 30 days Okay, so we know you were worse
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before But let's go ahead and now we'll get a really close look at estrogen and progesterone,
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Do we need to start that DIM because you're still having high estrogen?
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Maybe they haven't totally normalized yet.
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You know, other kinds of things like that. But you fix the bottom line,
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even you can't do the test you might want to.
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And sometimes like 70% of all autism is one particular autoimmune disease.
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And so ideally in that population, I love to run a blood test.
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But sometimes the parents look at me and they had a blood test a couple of years before.
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And they go, please don't ask us to do a blood test. Oh, it was such, I tried, my gosh.
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And I go, that's okay.
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Don't worry. The science is very clear where this stuff comes from.
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We'll start getting rid of things. And as things kind of quiet down,
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we're on the right track.
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And we say, okay, you know, what loose ends do we need to kind of,
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you know, take care of in order to get you over this final hump?
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Hey, what do you think about a blood test now? Oh, yeah, yeah,
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that's fine. Or, hey, we got the cycles in a better place.
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Let's do a blood test and really look closely at that day 19 to 21.
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So we see if we got what we had to fine tune still to get over that final hump,
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set the system in a good place, ideally by age 19 or before conceiving a child,
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so that we can pass on, you know, cleaner epigenetics, cleaner health to the
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next six to eight generations.
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So we talked about women and you're going to do progesterone and calm everything down.
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What about a guy, Hashimoto's or just increased estrogen, decreased testosterone?
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Do you start out with, I've heard like weightlifting can build testosterone
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or do you start out with supplementing? Oh, it's so easy to do it.
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You don't need a weight lift.
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It sounds like a lot of work. I'm not a gym guy.
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I grew up playing tennis in tennis in college. I like biking and hiking and rock climbing and yoga.
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It's like lifting. No, we can do it. We don't do it further.
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So there's very specific guys, reasons why guys lose testosterone.
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So I don't use testosterone restoration therapy the last 20 years,
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nearly like I did maybe when it first came out, how important it was.
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Because you get things like,
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electromagnetic fields drop testosterone production you
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know cell phones wi-fi blues tuses everywhere but we can kind
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of minimize some of that a low in red
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blood cell zinc not serum zinc but the
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zinc in red blood cells it's showing us and
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this kind of goes with several things including gut disruption can't
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get zinc out of your food low red blood cell zinc makes
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it hard to make testosterone high ferritin iron
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iron stores accumulating toxic levels
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of iron detox issue too like gut right and cortisol
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are kind of the big four that drop
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testosterone production so you create the calm by getting
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rid of excess ferritin maybe say hey go donate blood
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once or twice get rid of that excess iron stores go to red cross give away some
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blood they'll start sink now we want to heal the gut so you start absorbing
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it eventually right and then keep your cell phone out of your front pocket you
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know that kind of thing and their testosterone will be you know let's say 180,
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270 is my, I've seen under 200, of course.
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They're up 200 points by three months.
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Another three months, they're up to like 640. Wow. Look how easy that was.
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And no weightlifting. Oh yeah, the body's so smart at fixing this stuff.
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You know, it's a lot easier to fix this stuff, prevent this stuff,
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I think, than people give it credit for.
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But if you really go out through these really big root causes like infections,
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the toxicity, the gut, the cortisol, the vitamin deficiencies,
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hormone imbalances, the deficiencies, you go right there.
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Really, the body's in a position to fix everything else. I see a lot of people,
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you know, we live in a society where medical people, traditionally trained,
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it's like one pill for an ill, one pill for one ill.
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But then when we start doing supplements a lot of times, even though people
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are really getting wise in how this stuff happens, they're still using like
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one supplement for one ilk.
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And I go, okay, well, that's okay. You know, at least it's not a medication
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with tons of side effects, right?
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But they're still missing these central mechanisms. And I tend to find it's
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the infections that people miss, or if they test, they don't get rid of it the
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right way and it never goes away.
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This is a product out of Canada that's called pH Structured Silver Solution.
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That's an absolute game changer in getting rid of these infections that drive
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chronic disease, a nano silver product.
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But the structured water, which they call the fourth phase of water,
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gets rid of inflammation and helps damaged tissue heal.
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All at the same time. And it's like, cool, it gets rid of inflammation and has
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damaged tissue heal. That sounds spectacular.
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And you create this calm and you do this gut restoration stuff. One particular thing.
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Combo that I like that fixes the gut in a way that fixes everything,
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including originally, it was shown to get rid of the autoimmune gut issues like
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ulcerative class and Crohn's disease.
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But then Harvard Journal of Psychiatry says, hey, it gets rid of major depressive disorder.
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Psych Journal, this other one, hey, it changes personality types.
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People become more outgoing and more social.
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Hey, it's a nuclear weapon against obesity and diabetes.
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I did all these videos that, hey, this is what prevents breast cancer too.
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Look at all these articles. is vitamin D daily, probiotics daily,
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and the use of something called butyrate.
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And butyrate is made by the good bacteria in the gut called the short-chain
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fatty acid, comes in capsule form.
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But it fixes the gut in a way that allows you to fix everything.
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And so I use that combo on so many people, the vast majority,
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because it fixes the way everything goes, including because of the problem that
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needs to be corrected is in the gut, even though every cell in our body has a vitamin D receptor.
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So every cell in these vitamin D, the vitamin D receptors become resistant to vitamin D.
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So we can have all the vitamin D in the world, can't find a place to attach,
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almost like we don't have vitamin D.
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Well, it turns out the gut has more vitamin D receptors than any other body part.
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So they go, oh man, the gut must really need vitamin D because look at all this receptors, okay?
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But they become resistant. Good bacteria in the gut go down, bad guys go up.
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The gut actually will start creating its own inflammation. And you might hear
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people talk about the gut can become this engine of inflammation. They got inflammation.
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The gut stops making specific proteins to keep bad bugs away.
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And so we get gut infections and dysbiosis and all this kind of stuff.
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And so when you fix it with a triad, foundational triad, daily vitamin D daily
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probiotic daily butyrate it fixes that in that way and then this is like oh
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my gosh it fixes everything including oh.
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Genes, epigenetics, the things that turn on and off genes.
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And we all have bad genes, we all got good genes, but when you get this stuff,
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you've turned on the bad, turned off the good, right?
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So this is where anything that works through epigenetics, like actually butyrate,
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works almost exclusively through epigenetics.
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Meditation and getting out in nature, that works through epigenetics.
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But when vitamin D hits the vitamin D receptor that's sensitive,
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it makes something called a vitamin D responsive element, a protein,
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that goes to other genes and turns them on and off, including it will turn off
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all the genes that predispose to type 1 diabetes and all the genes that predispose
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to autism all at the same time.
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So this vitamin D receptor resistance that you fix with the foundational triad
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is like, oh my gosh, that is like a super central mechanism,
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including turning off all the genes that predispose to things nobody wants, right?
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But then you're fixing the brain and the immune system and the gut.
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And so I think that's something that you don't hear talked about enough.
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And it is such a big central mechanism. That's why, like Hashimoto's,
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TPO antibodies, 480, 240, 137, 89, 54, you know, that kind of steady progression that you get.
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And when people get flares of any automobiles, including Hashimoto's,
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the first thing I think of is there's a bad bug in the gut.
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Usually candida, some kind of yeast, it's so easy to get in.
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So if I see Hashimoto's antibodies go up between blood tests,
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I go, oh, I think it was a bad bug in your gut.
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If somebody goes, I feel like I'm in a flare, bad bug in the gut.
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Instantly, I put them on something called grapefruit seed extract twice a day for six weeks.
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They'll get rid of any bad bug in the gut fast. Six weeks is really fast for
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these bugs that create chronic disease. Can you do that as drops?
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You can. It comes in capsule form, too. Okay. Either way.
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And even some of the fungal species, the candida species, for example,
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that are really, really stubborn to get rid of.
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It'll get rid of them and I'll get rid of them fast. And the flare is over quick
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because we don't like people to be flared up. Right. You know, it's like, that stinks.
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I remember with joints or Hashimoto's and all this kind of stuff.
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But I don't even check a digestive stool analysis on those people.
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I'm like, oh, you have to have a bad bug in the gut.
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And this stuff, there's no downside to grapefruit seed extract.
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And if you go, oh, I started it and I feel better. We go, yeah.
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Okay. That confirmed our suspicion.
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And I don't, I'm not sure I can remember the last time when a flare happened
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that it didn't help because that's just kind of how things work.
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And then you go, okay, well, we got still some improvement in this immune system
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to keep away infections and got to heal the gut a little bit better,
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not to let those bad dudes back in again.
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But at least we got you out of the flare quick and we'll keep doing our work
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so that hopefully we get you so well that that stops happening,
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never happens again. And that's part of the locking them in place with a healthy
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gut, healthy immune system for long-term health.
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We've covered a lot of stuff. Dr. Bilstrom, thank you so much.
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If somebody is listening, what is like the one thing you want them to take away
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from this episode if they can only remember one thing?
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You've got to get rid of the infections with this product out of Canada because
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it's the Epstein-Barr virus, the mycoplasma, the herpes virus 6.
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Those are the kind of dudes that get to the thyroid and create the Hashimoto's.
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And you're never going to turn this around. You're never going to prevent the
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flares. You're never going to prevent other autoimmune diseases unless you get rid of the infection.
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And this is an absolute game changer, including the structured water portion
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gets rid of inflammation and helps damaged tissue heal, which is ultimately
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what you're trying to do is heal the whole system, get rid of the things that
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are causing the damage, but then allow the healing to happen.
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What's the name of that product and where can they get it? It's called pH Structured Silver Solutions.
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And you can get it at 10 parts per million as a non-medical person,
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but you really want to use the 30 parts per million that you can get through physicians.
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Or if you're an NP, PA, physician, nurse practitioner out there, you can get it as well.
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Now, I've seen on Facebook some people make their own silver water.
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Is that the same thing or is that completely different? Don't do that.
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Don't do that. We don't need anybody turning blue.
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That's why we can't use colloidal silver. and you don't want to make your own
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colloidal because this is like night and day difference from colloidal silver.
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And colloidal is not even strong enough to get rid of these infections that drive chronic disease.
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And if you got a UTI, you got something like that, it'll get rid of it in short
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order, a couple of weeks.
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Malaria, it'll get rid of in a couple of weeks. But truly this nano silver is
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the one that's going to get rid of the infections that drive chronic disease.
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There's way too stubborn to get, use that other kind of silver to get rid of them.
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Okay, cool. Dr. Bilstrom, where can people connect with you and learn more?
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So my website is drdavidbilstrom.com. And I have courses for non-medical people.
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I have courses for medical people to teach them all about this stuff.
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Lots of blogs, lots of videos, and non-woo perspective that I come from.
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I'm usually going to say in a video, hey, this is what the Journal of said,
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including, you know, this is why this stuff prevents breast cancer.
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Look at these three articles and all this other kind of stuff.
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So people really understand this is the science, not just someone's opinion.
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Right. Awesome. I'll have those links down in the show notes.
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