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Chris Landry Interview · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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  Speaker 4: at Landry Football, Landry Football dot com and of course
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  Speaker 4: Landry Football on at TikTok and more. Chris, welcome in.
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  Speaker 4: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 5: I am doing good, Chris.
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  Speaker 3: We're doing well. We've been, you know, splitting things through.
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  Speaker 4: Of course we're obviously we always with you football specific
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  Speaker 4: from college baseball, college softball. A lot going on at
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  Speaker 4: SEC spring meetings. So it is a Monday on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: I hope you had a great Memorial Day weekend.
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  Speaker 3: And holiday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it did got a little golf in this weekend
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  Speaker 5: despite the rains. All in all is pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Chris, Let's go through some of the comments just to
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  Speaker 4: read the tea leaves down in Deston at the SEC
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  Speaker 4: spring meetings on Obviously, college football playoff expansion is front
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  Speaker 4: and center, and Kirby Smart had this to say today
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  Speaker 4: kind of was the to me, the comment of all comments.
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  Speaker 3: He said a quote, I've been a huge advocate.
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  Speaker 4: If we can't find rules that everybody plays by, then
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  Speaker 4: we should play play on our own. He said, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not afraid of that. I'm not afraid of a breakaway
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  Speaker 4: of the NCAA.
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  Speaker 5: Your thoughts, well, you know, I'm sure that's what he
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  Speaker 5: thinks and believes, and I think there's a lot of
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  Speaker 5: sentiment for that. There has been, I should say, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of sentiment for that, but I don't. I think
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  Speaker 5: sometimes that is one of those statements that may be
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  Speaker 5: kind of a kind of a threat, so to speak,
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  Speaker 5: that because obviously, college football on a national level and
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  Speaker 5: a national championship without the SEC in it is not
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  Speaker 5: going to be legitimate. So they have to have the SEC,
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  Speaker 5: just like you have to have the Big Ten to
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  Speaker 5: have a legitimate, you know, national champion. Now, I also
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  Speaker 5: think that if you're split away and you've just got
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  Speaker 5: the SEC and you did well, then you're not an
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  Speaker 5: you you can't win a national championship because you're only
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  Speaker 5: playing as a conference champion. And you might claim you're
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  Speaker 5: the best, but then we're going back to where we
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  Speaker 5: used to be, where people just voted who they thought
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  Speaker 5: was best. That's why you got like Alabama claims like
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  Speaker 5: eighteen titles when you know don't have that many, but
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  Speaker 5: you've got more. You got more claim titles than there
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  Speaker 5: are years that we play college football. So I look,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's realistic. Here, here's what I think
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  Speaker 5: it comes down to. It always comes down to money.
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  Speaker 5: So what is the television number that's going to you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's going to be two fifty to eighty million. That's
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  Speaker 5: going to say, Okay, the money works, we can cancel
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  Speaker 5: the SEC championship game and the money that comes with it,
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  Speaker 5: because now we will not only make it back, but
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  Speaker 5: we'll make more money being a part of this. There
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  Speaker 5: has to be that money that that number that works.
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  Speaker 5: If it does, then we're probably going to go to
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  Speaker 5: that number. Of it might be twenty four, which I
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  Speaker 5: think is too many in terms of you don't have
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  Speaker 5: twenty fourteen that are good enough to compete for a
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  Speaker 5: national championship. But it is getting more and more. Like
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  Speaker 5: the butt, you've got. More entry leads to more money
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  Speaker 5: and more games, more playoff games. More playoff games is
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  Speaker 5: more money. You know, you hear what I'm saying. Money, money,
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  Speaker 5: and more money. That's what it's all about. And it's
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  Speaker 5: what it's always been about. And so the theory is
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  Speaker 5: right or wrong, is hey, we can make more money
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  Speaker 5: by having more playoff games. It's the NFL model. It
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  Speaker 5: has been a big part of what the Big Ten
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  Speaker 5: and the people that are involved in the Big Ten
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  Speaker 5: kind of believe, and their whole model of having you know,
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  Speaker 5: the TV contracts with multiple people. It's all very much
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  Speaker 5: NFL modolation. That's why they're pushing it. And then we'll
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  Speaker 5: see exactly how firm of a stand that Greg Sinki
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  Speaker 5: has on this, because I know he wants sixteen, although
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  Speaker 5: there's some sentiment I'm told among coaches that want twenty
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  Speaker 5: four in the SEC. So look, it's it's going to
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  Speaker 5: be interesting to see how it plays out in the end.
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  Speaker 4: Michaeh Mike Elco, Texas A and M said this today.
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  Speaker 4: He said, hey, look, we have no enforcement of roles
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  Speaker 4: at the highest level. He said, what billion dollar industry
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  Speaker 4: doesn't have a CEO, So he calls it for what
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  Speaker 4: it is. It is a billion dollar industry. We have
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  Speaker 4: no quote CEO. There's no Roger Goodell, like him or not,
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  Speaker 4: there's no Roger Goodell in college football.
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  Speaker 3: There should be, Chris. I don't know how we get to.
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  Speaker 4: The end of this without a breakaway, because you know
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  Speaker 4: you've got the Big twelve and I get it in
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  Speaker 4: the ACC, and you've got other conferences out that's not
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  Speaker 4: named SEC Big ten. That's saying, hey, look, we need
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  Speaker 4: a rev share and I'm paraphrasing a rev share model
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  Speaker 4: TV share, you know TV deals where it's across the board.
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  Speaker 4: They're asking for an NFL model to where you know
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  Speaker 4: everything's equal, you know you have a CEO, there's a
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  Speaker 4: salary cap. They're asking for basically a professional model. It
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  Speaker 4: feels like to me, break me if I'm wrong here,
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  Speaker 4: but there's no decision makers to make the final call here.
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  Speaker 4: So ultimately, if you can't get it right, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how you don't go do your own thing, or
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  Speaker 4: at least a couple of conferences to do their own thing.
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  Speaker 5: Right in the decision makers are the conference commissioners who
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  Speaker 5: are not going to give up their power. And look,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it could end up being a situation where
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  Speaker 5: the SEC does their own thing. And then what do
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  Speaker 5: you do. Do you have kind of an SEC and
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  Speaker 5: do you have some game after it's all over that's
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  Speaker 5: the SEC champion against the Big ten or I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's going to be the Big
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  Speaker 5: ten and everybody else. I mean, I don't know how
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  Speaker 5: you determine when you split off. And I agree with you,
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  Speaker 5: I think I think certainly it looks like that could
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  Speaker 5: end up being the final decision maker. But then what
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  Speaker 5: do you do about a national championship game? So how
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  Speaker 5: do you have a national championship game and we have
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  Speaker 5: a split off with the entries? You don't unless you
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  Speaker 5: have it after everybody finishes their season and you just
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  Speaker 5: pick two you know, and you know or not picked two.
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  Speaker 5: But hey, the SEC champion and let's call it the
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  Speaker 5: Big ten at all champion. I don't know how that's
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  Speaker 5: going to play out. But you're right, and you hit
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  Speaker 5: the crux of the problem is you don't have people
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  Speaker 5: leading it, and you've got a bunch of people, and
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  Speaker 5: everybody's trying to serve their own their own conference, which
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  Speaker 5: is fine and understandable, but nobody is standing up for
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  Speaker 5: the go to college football. College football is not about
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  Speaker 5: the SEC. It's not about the Big Ten or the
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  Speaker 5: Big twelve of Fact twelve or the ACC and it's
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  Speaker 5: about everybody. And we got away from that a long
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  Speaker 5: time ago. And I think once these conferences got bigger
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  Speaker 5: and bigger and bigger, and the conference commissioners got bigger
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  Speaker 5: and bigger and bigger, it became very problematic. And I
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  Speaker 5: do think whether it's one person, whether it's a committee
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  Speaker 5: that just governs college football that everybody plays by the
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  Speaker 5: same rules. You know, I think you delegitimize the sport
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  Speaker 5: if you split off, and you're right, it could we
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  Speaker 5: could do that. But then if you have different rules
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  Speaker 5: in the SEC then the Big Ten, well then you know,
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  Speaker 5: how do you how do you sit there and determine
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  Speaker 5: the champion? Well, it means you got more scholarships, you
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  Speaker 5: got more you know, lesser academic required, I mean, would
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  Speaker 5: it you can spend more money? Well, then that's obviously
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  Speaker 5: it's gonna it's gonna delegitimize a true champ in in
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  Speaker 5: terms of the overall value and success of finding out
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  Speaker 5: a national champion through a national championship game. So none
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  Speaker 5: of this I liked. But it's been very predictable, hadn't it.
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  Speaker 5: I Mean, it's like a train that was coming down
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  Speaker 5: the track and we knew it was coming, and we
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  Speaker 5: knew years ago it was ways away, but it was coming. Well,
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  Speaker 5: it is raaring down upon us. We can hear it,
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  Speaker 5: we can see it, and we can see the steam
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  Speaker 5: coming out of the engines.
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  Speaker 4: of going through some of these notes. One football note here,
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  Speaker 4: and of course there's a couple several here.
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  Speaker 3: But Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 4: Clark Lee today, talking about Vanderbilt, said, I didn't come
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  Speaker 4: to Vanderbilt for ten win season.
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  Speaker 3: I came to win a national championship.
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  Speaker 4: Now I must say we I'm not gonna put you
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  Speaker 4: in this We as in me and probably some people
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  Speaker 4: around here laughed last year and others did. Clarkly said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we're here to compete for ten win seasons, national championships,
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  Speaker 4: play in January. Everybody kind of laughed. Diego Pavia said
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  Speaker 4: the same thing. They were pretty dang good last year.
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  Speaker 4: How much better can he make Vanderbilt. I don't have
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  Speaker 4: the numbers, because I don't think we get numbers from Beannderbilt.
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  Speaker 4: What they have in their roster this year, dollar wise,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna of start likely their first ever five star quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: or at least move him into you know, kind of
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  Speaker 4: that guy to succeed or supersede Diego Pavia. But Clark
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  Speaker 4: Lee wasn't playing around last year or the year before.
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  Speaker 4: He says, hey, I'm not here to win ten ten games,
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  Speaker 4: I'm here to win it all.
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  Speaker 5: Well, let's let's look at that in a big picture
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  Speaker 5: and say, in theory, if Vanderbilt wants to be a
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  Speaker 5: power and if people that are behind Clark Lea can
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  Speaker 5: put their money where their mouth is. I'm not going
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  Speaker 5: to say they can do what Vanderbilt did, but you
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  Speaker 5: can see what because people ask me, well, what other
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  Speaker 5: program but behinds Indiana could could maybe be the next
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  Speaker 5: Indiana Texas Tech. Look at what they're doing. Could Vanderbilt
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  Speaker 5: do that? Well? They certainly have the money and the
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  Speaker 5: resources in the alumni to do it. Are they willing
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  Speaker 5: to do that? It's a tougher role to go through
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  Speaker 5: in the SEC. But if they're willing to do all
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  Speaker 5: of those things, then certainly. The reason why I think
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  Speaker 5: it's been laughable is Banda built has not until recently
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  Speaker 5: shown any They're just doing lip service to what we
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  Speaker 5: expect to win. They've never done anything to support the
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  Speaker 5: reality of them trying to compete nationally. I think certainly
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  Speaker 5: they're doing better at that. Are they doing it well
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  Speaker 5: enough to compete for national titles right now?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 5: But could they? What's up to them? I think now
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  Speaker 5: we're in a new age where you can't rule out anybody,
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  Speaker 5: and if you're looking for who could or who couldn't.
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  Speaker 5: It's really going to come down to dollars and cents.
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  Speaker 5: Who can put together that type of roster and get
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  Speaker 5: in the staff to do that. That's what it's all
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  Speaker 5: about really at this point. Players, staff, development facilities, all
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  Speaker 5: those things. I think anybody's capable, but some people don't
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  Speaker 5: have the resources or don't have the interest in putting
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  Speaker 5: that into football enough to have a realistic shot at
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  Speaker 5: putting it together. Talk is cheap, and I think it's
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  Speaker 5: great that Clark's showing that confidence. But let's go ahead
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  Speaker 5: and win ten games three or four times out of
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  Speaker 5: five years and then we can talk about winning a championship.
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  Speaker 5: But look, I will say this, if you go to
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  Speaker 5: twenty four teams, they certainly could be a playoff team
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  Speaker 5: a lot of years. That'll certainly be something that they
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  Speaker 5: can shoot for, at least on the way up, if
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  Speaker 5: that's what they're willing to do.
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  Speaker 4: Visiting with Chris Landry of course, Landry football dot com
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  Speaker 4: is his website. Make sure to get him on TikTok
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  Speaker 4: and more. Chris, What happens to a guy we haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen this much in sports. Brendan sorosby NCAA has shot
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  Speaker 4: down he's not getting back in college football.
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  Speaker 3: He put out a.
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  Speaker 4: Statement about an hour ago. Ian Rapaport has put this out.
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  Speaker 4: He says, quote, I am deeply sorry to everyone. I'm
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  Speaker 4: disappointed he's in rehab for gambling and also depression. What
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  Speaker 4: happened me? This guy had such a at least at
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  Speaker 4: face value, he had a very promising career ahead of him.
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  Speaker 4: Texas text number one guy. They'll have to pivot. Obviously
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  Speaker 4: they've already done that. That's going to hurt them, but
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  Speaker 4: more so it hurt you know, for what he's in.
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  Speaker 4: What is his options now as a football player?
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  Speaker 5: The first thing I thought when this all came down
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  Speaker 5: with him is arch Schleister. For people who don't remember
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  Speaker 5: archs Leister, and it's just gamblings were accepted today, it's advertised.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, pro leagues are in bed with the companies
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  Speaker 5: that are dealing with But arch Leister was had a
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  Speaker 5: gambling issue at Ohio State and then you know it
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  Speaker 5: basically finished his NFL career because it was out once
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  Speaker 5: he got with the Colts. Yeah, I don't I don't
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  Speaker 5: know the path back here. I think there's that threat of,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the integrity of the game, which is look,
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  Speaker 5: the closer we're tied to gambling, folks, the closer that
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  Speaker 5: becomes something that you worry about. It is something I've
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  Speaker 5: always worried about. I'm not telling everybody, anybody what they
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  Speaker 5: should do, what they should not do, but athletes should
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  Speaker 5: not be doing that. I'm gonna tell you. I've been
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  Speaker 5: around some young kids, you know, the last two or
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  Speaker 5: three years. It is. It just shocked me how much
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  Speaker 5: how prevalent gambling is on college campuses among the student body.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that is the thing to do. To think
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  Speaker 5: that athletes are not involved in it, are not doing
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  Speaker 5: some of this, we'd be naive. So I don't know
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  Speaker 5: that he's coming back from it, but I guess my
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  Speaker 5: bigger point would be this is a problem that we've
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  Speaker 5: opened the door with gambling, that that this is this
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  Speaker 5: is a problem that's going to come about it. I
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  Speaker 5: think that I don't think he's going to be alone.
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  Speaker 5: I think there are others that are gonna be and
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  Speaker 5: there have been others at other sports, but I think
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  Speaker 5: we're going to see this again, unfortunately, because it's just
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  Speaker 5: we'd be naive to think that others are not doing this.
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  Speaker 5: They are.
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  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford got a finalized deal of course. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the RAMS went and picked up ty Simpson this year.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like they're setting up and probably had these
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  Speaker 4: conversations with Simpson. It didn't like college where he can
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  Speaker 4: get the transfer portal, so he's the backup guy. But
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  Speaker 4: at least on paper, the RAMS are trying to tee
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  Speaker 4: up now, the near future and possibly the you know,
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  Speaker 4: poor long future, much like Aaron Rodgers and the and
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  Speaker 4: the Packers did with Jordan Love.
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  Speaker 3: At least that's what this looks like to me.
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  Speaker 5: It is and that's that's exactly what they're doing. This
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  Speaker 5: is the RAMS team that's win now, and that's what
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  Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford represents. They're not gonna win now with ty
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  Speaker 5: Simpson at the highest level. You know they could, you
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  Speaker 5: know they are. Now what does this look like? Well,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how many throws and reps that Matthew's
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  Speaker 5: gonna need to be sharp. He's gonna get those and
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  Speaker 5: maybe that tie will get more reps in the developmental states,
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  Speaker 5: because we don't know if this is Matthew Stafford's last year,
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  Speaker 5: like it appears to be with Aaron Rodgers. He could
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  Speaker 5: stay another year. It's gonna be a year to year situation,
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  Speaker 5: but you just nailed it. They are trying to make
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  Speaker 5: a run with a very good roster with Matthew Stafford,
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  Speaker 5: and there are some things that obviously they liked about
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  Speaker 5: Ty Simpson to develop towards the future. Look, they were
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  Speaker 5: not picking high enough to be able to get and
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  Speaker 5: won't be picking high enough to be able to get
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  Speaker 5: one of the elite quarterbacks. So getting someone where they
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  Speaker 5: got him make some sense in the long term because
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  Speaker 5: they had them graded very highly. Now, the only argument,
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  Speaker 5: and I think there was an argument in inside that organization,
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  Speaker 5: is we could draft somebody at that pick, could have draft.
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  Speaker 5: It's somebody at that pick that could help us this
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  Speaker 5: year get us over the top. But they just felt
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  Speaker 5: like they've got a quarterback that they really like, and
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  Speaker 5: so they're gonna go forward with kind of develop him,
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  Speaker 5: but try to win now. And if they're missing a piece,
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  Speaker 5: let's say do it to an injury, you'll see them
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  Speaker 5: be active before the trade deadline with a veteran guy,
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  Speaker 5: let's say, another weapon at receiver or another edge player
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  Speaker 5: on defense. They'll they'll try to be active doing that
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  Speaker 5: because they're on the win now mode.
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  Speaker 4: Make sure, excuse me, make sure the game at Landry
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  Speaker 3: Chris.
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  Speaker 4: Always appreciate your insight. Thanks for moving around with the
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  Speaker 4: holiday and look, have a great week. We'll do it
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  Speaker 4: again next week.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, thank you so much. Take care,