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Super Bowl Preview, Fugazi Friday, Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three
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Speaker 1: a good food Gazi Friday. We'll just dive right into it.
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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson yesterday. We talked to Kendrick Bourne yesterday. I
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Speaker 1: listened to the audio. Wasn't great. My bad, not that
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Speaker 1: I had anything to do with it, but hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: not pointing the finger. It's no one's fault. It just
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Speaker 1: kind of is what it is in those situations. As
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Speaker 1: you can tell my voice, you know, just holding on.
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Speaker 1: I don't you know, I'm forty now. I'm not quite
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Speaker 1: throwing at the same speed I once was. I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: say I hit the town last night, but definitely enjoyed
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Speaker 1: myself for the first time in a long time and
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Speaker 1: made an executive decision. It could have got crazy. Last year,
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Speaker 1: I went with the kind of some of the iHeart
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Speaker 1: crew to the We went to the Volume party and
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Speaker 1: then the after party was Club Shashay, which is basically
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Speaker 1: some version of like techmobile. Every famous player from like
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two meets like Madden two thousand and one.
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Speaker 1: It's it's a trip. And they all went and they
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Speaker 1: were begging me to go, and I said, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's about eleven o'clock. I had an early early flight
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Speaker 1: and I was showed maturity. I did not go. Hopefully
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Speaker 1: I didn't miss out. I haven't texted anyone because last
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Speaker 1: year it was in New Orleans. It was an incredible experience.
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Speaker 1: So from Steven A to Michael Irvin to Timber I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you every player that was good in the
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Speaker 1: in my entire childhood and Ocho Sinko my you know,
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Speaker 1: college years. So yeah, I mean, now we got the
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Speaker 1: super Bowl, and uh, that's what we're gonna do today.
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Speaker 1: I'll give some thoughts on the Super Bowl. Is Fugazi Friday,
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Speaker 1: and I got a couple of fugazis that are just
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Speaker 1: football related that made me shake my head. And we'll
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Speaker 1: bang out a little mail bag as well at John Middlecoff.
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Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff, I didn't sleep that much last couple
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Speaker 1: of days. My voice is I wouldn't say gone hanging
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Speaker 1: on a little bit. So I got to give it
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Speaker 1: a rest the next couple of days so I can
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Speaker 1: podcast after the super Bowl. All signs point to Drake
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Speaker 1: May said today he was healthy. Emon Worry who got
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Speaker 1: injured at practice and there was some video of him
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Speaker 1: walking to the hotel limping around, claimed he'll be good
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Speaker 1: to go. Definitely something to monitor though. I mean, he
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Speaker 1: really takes every defense to another level. He's Mike McDonald's
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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton of this team. I'm not saying he's just good,
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Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Like that's the version
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Speaker 1: of players just not many tall, physical long ball skills,
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Speaker 1: can play safety, can play cover guy. I mean kind
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Speaker 1: of do it all pretty player. So that would be
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Speaker 1: a big deal if he had got, you know, a
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Speaker 1: major injury. It looks like, you know, he avoided disaster,
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Speaker 1: which would suck. I mean, get injured the week of
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean that's I mean, these practices, I
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Speaker 1: can't imagine they are that intent. So it's it's clearly
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Speaker 1: a freak injury. But we'll dive right in because I
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Speaker 1: think the coolest part about the Super Bowl is the
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Speaker 1: the Sam donald storyline really is what everyone's talking about.
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Speaker 1: It has like a human interest story type vibe to it, Like,
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Speaker 1: could you meet a human being that follows sports, They'll
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Speaker 1: be like, I hate Sam Donald, loser, can't wait to
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Speaker 1: root against him, And that's kind of sports, right. Bring
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Speaker 1: up some famous athlete you go into a bar, You're
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Speaker 1: gonna find mixed reactions. Bring up Tom Brady in a bar,
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Speaker 1: bring up Lebron James in a bar. Just bring up
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Not everyone's like raw raw on their side.
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Speaker 1: And I think there's an element to Sam Donald that
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Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of root against, and unlike Brady,
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Speaker 1: I truly have no dog in this fight. Honestly, I
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Speaker 1: guess I'm kind of rooting for Seattle in the sense
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Speaker 1: that I'd love to get John Schneider on the show again.
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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, and I think it'd be cool
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Speaker 1: for him and we'll dive into, you know what it
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Speaker 1: will be on his resume if he's able to win
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Speaker 1: another Super Bowl. But like we were talking about it
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Speaker 1: last night, this game in the sixty minutes, if Sam
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Speaker 1: Darnold wins, I just think it, like, I don't ever
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Speaker 1: think we've quite seen a turnaround in this fashion. Definitely
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Speaker 1: in my life, I'm sure that happened in the seventies
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Speaker 1: and the eighties, we have seen crazy quarterback stories. You
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Speaker 1: know the video that went viral of John Gruden walking
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Speaker 1: down it must have been like Market Street and running
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Speaker 1: into Rich Gannon and them doing like you know, snap
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Speaker 1: counts and screaming at each other. I mean, Rich Gannon
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Speaker 1: was a guy that bounced around. You got with John
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Speaker 1: Gruden and became the league MVP. I think he won
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Speaker 1: the League MVP the year after John left, but became
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Speaker 1: a high level starter, a pro bowler. That's kind of
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Speaker 1: a unique story. You know, Steve Young got traded for
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Speaker 1: a fourth round pick to the forty nine ers and
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Speaker 1: later became a Hall of Famer. Now granted he had
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Speaker 1: been a top pick and played in the UFL. You know,
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Speaker 1: Plunkett was a little before my time, but he was
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Speaker 1: a number one overall pick, was viewed as a guy
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Speaker 1: that didn't live up to the hype. Then guy with
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Speaker 1: Al Davis and won Super Bowls. This situation feels the
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Speaker 1: most different of any that I can remember, because most
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Speaker 1: of the prominent quarterbacks are kind of good immediately, Like,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty rare that someone comes out of nowhere anymore.
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Speaker 1: People go through dips in their career, Like Philip Rivers
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Speaker 1: had a couple down years in the middle of his career, right,
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff had a weird little stint in the middle
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Speaker 1: of it, but like by his second year, they were
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs and he was good and he got
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Speaker 1: a big contract extensions. The other thing, most of these
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Speaker 1: guys in the Brady Manning era we've kind of known immediately,
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Speaker 1: right from Cam Newton to Roethlisberger to you name it it,
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Speaker 1: brock Purdy like happens immediately. It's pretty rare where everyone goes, eh,
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Speaker 1: this guy's not that good. He's just not that good
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Speaker 1: two And what the league thought that because remember when
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Speaker 1: his career pivoted, when he became a backup for Kyle Shanahan.
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Speaker 1: It's not like they gave him one year twenty million dollars.
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Speaker 1: They had a bidding problem. They gave him like one
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Speaker 1: year three million dollars to be the backup. So teams
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Speaker 1: that all over the league could have had access to
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Speaker 1: Sam Darmold. He was not, relative to NFL terms, that
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Speaker 1: expensive of a player. He was there to be had,
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Speaker 1: and no one wanted him. And now a couple of
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Speaker 1: years later, think of the ramifications I mean, I was
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Speaker 1: talking Jefferson yesterday. We got a bunch of people at
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Speaker 1: the volume that are Vikings fans. You know, the Viking
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Speaker 1: is just a prominent organization in this league that their
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Speaker 1: general manager just got fired. And people think that there
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Speaker 1: are ripple effects of the Sam Darnold's success. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he threw thirty five touchdowns for them, and they were
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Speaker 1: sixteen minutes away from being the number one seat, and
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Speaker 1: then he goes to Seattle and listen, he has not
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Speaker 1: had some perfect season, led the league in turnovers in
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Speaker 1: the regular season, but in the NFC Championship game against
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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, which we can debate and listen to Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fames all over the map, I mean, pretty good
7:21
Speaker 1: chance Matt Stafford makes it the Hall of Fame. And
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Speaker 1: if he's not, like, he just won the MVP, so
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Speaker 1: let's not even take away the Hall of Fame. But
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Speaker 1: he just playing the league MVP, the number one offense
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Speaker 1: in the league, and he went toe to toe, if
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Speaker 1: not outdueled them, did not have a turnover and was
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Speaker 1: freaking awesome. And now he has a chance. Now I
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Speaker 1: think sometimes and I'm guilty of this too, when you're like,
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Speaker 1: he's the betting favorite to be the Super Bowl MVP.
7:47
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean the starting quarterback on the team
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Speaker 1: that's favored by almost five points is going to be
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Speaker 1: favored to win the MVP. That that would be the
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Speaker 1: case in any scenario. Right, These quarterbacks win this award
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Speaker 1: the majority of the time. And can you imagine if
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald on Monday yours like Sam Donald and Seattle
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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and Sam Donald won the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. Like, let's face it, there would be a
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Speaker 1: validations the wrong word because how long have we been
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Speaker 1: trying to validate the guy? Honestly, it would be more
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Speaker 1: of an issue more for Minnesota trying to overcome that
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Speaker 1: narrative which would never go away, Like there are things
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Speaker 1: that just never go away. Letting a guy walk for
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback who's been an epic disaster leading to
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Speaker 1: a GM getting fired while the other guy leads the
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks who were five to one to win their
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Speaker 1: own division in August, which osmagers were off on that one. Listen,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't easy. I mean when they came
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Speaker 1: down to the last game of the season to win
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Speaker 1: the division, but still like they should have been more
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Speaker 1: like plus two to fifty now plus five hundred. But regardless,
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Speaker 1: it's just an incredible story. And I think back to
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Speaker 1: the human interest part. There's just a genuine like, hey,
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Speaker 1: he seems like a great guy. Never heard a bad
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Speaker 1: word about him in a league that gossips about everybody,
9:06
Speaker 1: in a league that talks shit about people constantly. And
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Speaker 1: I'm as guilty as anybody because I get this information
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Speaker 1: and I kind of put my own spin on it,
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Speaker 1: and listen, I got my own opinions. I got no
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Speaker 1: problem blasting people and be like I don't like this guy,
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Speaker 1: and tell half these guys don't even know. I just
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Speaker 1: watch the way they operate. It's like turns me off.
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Speaker 1: And she's like Jim Donolds, he's like a great guy.
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Speaker 1: And McCaffrey on on Coward yesterday, who I was trying
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Speaker 1: to get his handler, And that's part of the super
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Speaker 1: Bowl is you're like begging these handlers to get like
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Speaker 1: ten minutes with the guys. It's just not my vibe,
9:41
Speaker 1: not my scene. I appreciate the hooplah behind it, but
9:45
Speaker 1: Radio Row, which eventually is gonna have to be renamed
9:49
Speaker 1: I don't know podcast Way or you know, Digital Drive
9:54
Speaker 1: I don't exactly know, but we're gonna need to rename
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Speaker 1: that bad boy in a little bit regardless. People just
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Speaker 1: like this person. And McCaffrey was like, you know, it
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Speaker 1: would have been very easy to get some bitterness out
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Speaker 1: of Sam. I got the short end of the stick.
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Speaker 1: I got screwed. And He's like, I've been around him
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Speaker 1: in Carolina, I've obviously now was around him in San Francisco,
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Speaker 1: and I never heard him utter any negativity toward anyone else.
10:19
Speaker 1: I saw in his press conference earlier this week. They
10:21
Speaker 1: kind of asked him. They people were trying to get
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Speaker 1: him to take shots of the Jets, and he just wouldn't.
10:27
Speaker 1: He was like, if anything, he was humbled to be
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Speaker 1: drafted that high. And I think anytime you just constantly
10:34
Speaker 1: say the right things and it'd be really easy. And listen,
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Speaker 1: I got no issue with the Rogers, with the Baker Mayfield.
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Speaker 1: Like we're all wired differently. We can't all be wired
10:44
Speaker 1: the same, you know. Part of like, part of the
10:48
Speaker 1: reason football is entertaining is we got some just straight
10:51
Speaker 1: arrow guy and we got some crazy guys. As someone
10:53
Speaker 1: that's a fan of golf, like when live, I want
10:56
Speaker 1: all these guys from Live to come Back, because we
10:58
Speaker 1: need some crazy guys. You can't and just have everyone
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Speaker 1: with a big smile on their face, high character. You
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Speaker 1: need some fucking wild cards. You know, this is entertainment.
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Speaker 1: And Sam Donald falls under the category of like just
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Speaker 1: a good guy you know who happens to be six
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Speaker 1: or five with a big arm. And John Schneider was
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Speaker 1: talking to ty Ty Dunn, who was just his substacs awesome.
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Speaker 1: He was at the Volume party and we were talking.
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Speaker 1: It's some people are just good at their jobs. And
11:25
Speaker 1: I was telling him last night, like, you know what,
11:27
Speaker 1: you have a really really good talent of of just
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Speaker 1: getting people to talk to you, like the coaches, the executives.
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Speaker 1: You know. He covered Buffalo when Richie and Cognito was
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Speaker 1: with the Bills, and Richie came right up to him
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Speaker 1: at the party last night and started talking to Like
11:42
Speaker 1: he just some people just have a knack for connecting
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Speaker 1: and interacting. And Ty clearly has that talent, but so
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Speaker 1: does Donald. Like I mean Donald comes to the forty
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Speaker 1: nine ers, he's immediately at like the Warriors games with
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Speaker 1: perty McCaffrey, Kittle and Uschak who I saw Juice yesterday
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Speaker 1: walking around the he looks fantastic. God it, guys, he's
12:03
Speaker 1: in great shape, good looking dude, you know, just a
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Speaker 1: legendary fullback. So good to see juice. But congrats to
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Speaker 1: Darnold who just flipped his you know, career around. I'm
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Speaker 1: rooting for him. I'm not gonna lie. I'm rooting for
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Speaker 1: Seattle because I also think, you know, John Schneider, I
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Speaker 1: was thinking about this, like less Need or John Lynch
12:24
Speaker 1: or some of these guys. You know, think of other
12:27
Speaker 1: gms Beach with Andy, most of them that have had
12:31
Speaker 1: success and got to Super Bowls or got to a
12:34
Speaker 1: bunch of champion NFC championship or AFC Championship games. It's
12:37
Speaker 1: the same crew of guys doing it like it's been
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Speaker 1: less Need and Sean McVay the entire time. Right, So anytime,
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Speaker 1: Like one thing that Howie can hang his hat on
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Speaker 1: is he won multiple Super Bowls with two different coaches
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Speaker 1: and two different quarterbacks. I don't know where you fall,
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Speaker 1: but I think it's pretty hard to argue against Belichick
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Speaker 1: being a Hall of Like, if you don't think Belichick's
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, it'd probably be hard for us
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Speaker 1: to have a conversation. But if you did want to
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Speaker 1: make the argument like move remove Brady and look what
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Speaker 1: he does and it's not great, My comeback would be
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Speaker 1: like Bill walshit Joe Montana, like most great Phil Jackson had,
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Speaker 1: Michael and Kobe. They usually aren't great coaches without great players.
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Speaker 1: But regardless is Belichick success. Okay? With Tom Right and
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Speaker 1: you're looking at John Schneider, who has a chance to
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Speaker 1: pull the Howie of winning multiple super Bowls with two
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Speaker 1: different coaches and two different quarterbacks. That is a remarkable accomplishment.
13:39
Speaker 1: Like Veach will probably have a pretty good chance to
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Speaker 1: win another super Bowl in the next couple of years.
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Speaker 1: It will be with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, and
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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that, but like to be able
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Speaker 1: to if I just told Veach, hey, you're gonna go
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Speaker 1: to a super Bowl in like four years in Kansas City,
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Speaker 1: but Mahomes won't be your quarterback and Andy won't be
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Speaker 1: your coach, people be like what And if he did,
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Speaker 1: it would just take his status to like legendary status
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Speaker 1: because it's really really difficult to do, and you could
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Speaker 1: he already is because he's won a bunch of Super Bowls.
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Speaker 1: My point is it's It's not easy to win these
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Speaker 1: things ever, right, it's hard for Belichick and Andy Reid
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Speaker 1: and whoever to win them. But it's really hard to
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Speaker 1: rehaul a coach because when you get a new coach,
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Speaker 1: you completely change the coaching staff. And then when you
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Speaker 1: get a new quarterback, like that's a dramatic change. And
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Speaker 1: I just think John Schneider, I think he's a Hall
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Speaker 1: of Famer, but this would just be a no doubt
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Speaker 1: about it, just all time unique resume. I mean even
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Speaker 1: guys like Bill Pollion who was in the Super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: like he won one Super Bowl with Peyton Manning and
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Speaker 1: Tony Dungee. He went to a lot of them in Buffalo,
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Speaker 1: but he never won it. And to do it at
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Speaker 1: the same franchise with multiple iterations, it's just it's just
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Speaker 1: an incredible potential accomplishment for John. And obviously before we
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Speaker 1: get in the you know the Pats, Mike mcdonald'll be
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Speaker 1: on the short list of young star coaches. And the
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Speaker 1: thing that would separate him is like McVeigh champion, Sirianni Champion,
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Speaker 1: some of the other young guys who have been close,
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Speaker 1: like obviously Kyle you know, La Floor's been to a
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Speaker 1: bunch of championship games. Kevin O'Connell's never won a playoff game.
15:19
Speaker 1: You know, the way we talk about him, you'd think
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Speaker 1: he's got three rings but never won a playoff game.
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Speaker 1: But regardless, like, I'm not anti Kevin O'Connell, My point
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Speaker 1: is that if I told you Kevin O'Connell was a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion or Kyle Shanahan was zuper Bowl champion,
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Speaker 1: it would just it would take their status to another level.
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Speaker 1: But because Mike's a defensive coach, I just don't think
15:42
Speaker 1: he's been properly discussed most of this season. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks he's gotten more buzz. But
15:50
Speaker 1: let's face it, the Sam Darnold conversation kind of clouds
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Speaker 1: it a little bit. And you win a Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: at like thirty nine, forty years old as a defensive guy,
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Speaker 1: you'd be in a division where Kyle doesn't have one,
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Speaker 1: just you and McVeigh, and you win it in your
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Speaker 1: rival stadium. Listen, there's no denying that the guy is
16:11
Speaker 1: pretty special when it comes to a defensive mind. And
16:14
Speaker 1: there's no denying like his personality really really works, very
16:18
Speaker 1: level headed, very just consistent, emotionally, He never seems like
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Speaker 1: emotionally unwound or losing his his kind of stability, right,
16:31
Speaker 1: he's just very consistent when you see his body language,
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Speaker 1: and that matters. And you win a Super Bowl at
16:37
Speaker 1: a young age, you're kind of playing with house money
16:40
Speaker 1: from then on out, you really are. It's kind of
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Speaker 1: like a player, right. Rogers knocked it out early, Brady
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Speaker 1: knocked it out early. Then you're just kind of chasing,
16:48
Speaker 1: like can you get two or three? Now? It's not easy.
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Speaker 1: Mcveigh's been chasing number two for a long time now, well,
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Speaker 1: I guess not that long. He only wanted a couple
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Speaker 1: of years ago. But you know, I think you saw
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Speaker 1: the devastation on his face this year because he knows
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Speaker 1: how hard it is to get to this point. So
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Speaker 1: and once you're in this game, like anything could happen.
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19:24
Speaker 1: I actually think the bigger story on the Pats is
19:27
Speaker 1: more vable than Drake may and part of it's his youth.
19:31
Speaker 1: Like I think we all agree, Drake, you never know
19:33
Speaker 1: in football, health you know can crop up on anyone
19:36
Speaker 1: injuries has a chance to be an elite player for
19:39
Speaker 1: a long long time in the NFL. Right, if you
19:42
Speaker 1: did a draft when you if you factored in contracts
19:46
Speaker 1: and age, he would go really really high. If you
19:50
Speaker 1: factored in contract and age, because technically you could roll
19:54
Speaker 1: out a couple more years on this rookie contract. You
19:56
Speaker 1: could argue he'd go one and listen, I'm not saying
19:59
Speaker 1: he's perfect, but the upside is enormous. So it's like,
20:04
Speaker 1: un listen, Dan Marino got to a super Bowl his
20:06
Speaker 1: rookie year. He never made it back. So there's no
20:09
Speaker 1: guarantees in this sport. You can't let guys like you know,
20:13
Speaker 1: Mahomes or Brady Cloud. You're you know, you're thinking of
20:16
Speaker 1: just it's easy, because obviously it's not. But to me,
20:20
Speaker 1: Vrabel I think has more to gain than May because
20:24
Speaker 1: he would immediately go on the short list of guys
20:27
Speaker 1: who have won a Super Bowl. I can't remember we
20:30
Speaker 1: talked about this last week, but if he'd be the
20:32
Speaker 1: first player to win a Super Bowl for the team
20:37
Speaker 1: that he played for and also won a super Bowl,
20:40
Speaker 1: so the connection there would be pretty special and it
20:43
Speaker 1: would immediately vault him, like in terms of important Patriots. Obviously,
20:49
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty hard to supplant Belichick and Tom but
20:55
Speaker 1: and obviously you know you put Tom probably won Belichick
20:58
Speaker 1: one b I think I think Rabele would be pretty
21:03
Speaker 1: pretty set at number three of a franchise who's been
21:06
Speaker 1: to a lot of freaking Super Bowls, who have a
21:08
Speaker 1: lot of legendary players, But you win three rings as
21:12
Speaker 1: a player as clearly one of the key guys in
21:14
Speaker 1: the operation. You know, awesome defensive player, catching touchdowns and
21:19
Speaker 1: super Bowls, you know, a big part of like the
21:21
Speaker 1: heart and soul of the team. And then you come
21:25
Speaker 1: back and you resurrect the franchise and who cares like
21:31
Speaker 1: in terms of oh, they've had the easiest schedule in
21:33
Speaker 1: thirty years, Okay, well they're here. There have been teams
21:36
Speaker 1: with easy schedules that haven't made the Super Bowl. Like,
21:38
Speaker 1: if you're them, why do I give a shit? Sometimes
21:40
Speaker 1: we play our schedules, Sometimes we play easy schedules. Still
21:43
Speaker 1: got to win the playoff game, still had to go
21:45
Speaker 1: on the road in a I saw Portanoy calling it
21:49
Speaker 1: some like crazy name, but whatever the blizzard was and
21:53
Speaker 1: win a game. Now, Grandos was against the backup quarterback.
21:56
Speaker 1: But what are the people going to say, now, well,
21:57
Speaker 1: even Wary was seventy five percent. Yeah, you're playing Sam Darnold.
22:01
Speaker 1: You know, it's not exactly Peyton Manning who gives a shit?
22:04
Speaker 1: And Vrabel would get pretty legendary status, and it used
22:08
Speaker 1: to happen more. You know, really good players well before
22:12
Speaker 1: I was alive in like the sixties, in the fifties
22:15
Speaker 1: would become coaches, right, you know Bill Cower, you know
22:21
Speaker 1: Tony Dungeye was a longtime player, Mike Ditka. It doesn't
22:25
Speaker 1: happen as much anymore, which is understandable. These guys make
22:28
Speaker 1: too much money. The equivalent of Mike vrabel Now in
22:31
Speaker 1: the NFL would have would make a hundred million dollars.
22:35
Speaker 1: So it's like, do I want to work eighty hour
22:37
Speaker 1: work weeks when I am already filthy rich? If anything,
22:39
Speaker 1: I'll just start a podcast. I'll go work for ESPN
22:43
Speaker 1: or Fox. Right, hey, I'll call Coward and start something
22:46
Speaker 1: on the volume and for Mike to get back into this. Also,
22:51
Speaker 1: like I think you win the Super Bowl if you're
22:53
Speaker 1: verybel that Tennessee ten yure looks better. He was the
22:56
Speaker 1: number one seed and he the one year and two
22:59
Speaker 1: that was nineteen. He won multiple road playoff games as
23:02
Speaker 1: big underdogs beat the Pats, ended Brady's career in New
23:05
Speaker 1: England and went on the road. I forget the number,
23:07
Speaker 1: but they were big dogs playing Baltimore when Derek Henry
23:10
Speaker 1: went for like seven hundred yards like that would age
23:13
Speaker 1: great on his resumes. I'm a super Bowl champ once
23:16
Speaker 1: I got a better owner, and I already had three
23:19
Speaker 1: as a player. Top top that baby. Not many people can't. Like,
23:24
Speaker 1: look at the best coaches in the NFL right now,
23:27
Speaker 1: most of them did not play. Andy Reidon didn't play
23:29
Speaker 1: in the NFL. John Baton didn't play in the NFL.
23:31
Speaker 1: McVay Kyle didn't sniff the NFL. There's nothing wrong with that.
23:34
Speaker 1: Most people don't. But he just to have that many
23:39
Speaker 1: rings on a dynasty and then just do it as
23:41
Speaker 1: a coach, It's it's pretty unique. And obviously you know
23:48
Speaker 1: Craft's legacy to the move he made. Now, I did
23:52
Speaker 1: see him make the comment that when he fired Mayo
23:55
Speaker 1: it was very cost intense to fire everybody. It's like Robert,
24:00
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, Mail's making six seven million dollars, you're
24:03
Speaker 1: paying some assistance a combined three or four million dollars
24:06
Speaker 1: to go a wait, that's that's a rounding error to you, man,
24:09
Speaker 1: It does not matter at all. So I just think
24:13
Speaker 1: when you look at Robert Kraft, you know him and
24:18
Speaker 1: Belichick of Ben at odds right, and the documentary that
24:22
Speaker 1: came out on Apple was pretty embarrassing. Yeah, I thought
24:26
Speaker 1: it was kind of unneeded. It was almost a campaign
24:29
Speaker 1: for Robert, Like Robert, you don't need to My dad
24:32
Speaker 1: always tried to teach me this, And I wasn't like
24:35
Speaker 1: a cocky kid and tell you how great I was something,
24:37
Speaker 1: because I wasn't that great at most things. But whenever
24:40
Speaker 1: my friends or people I knew would be big talkers,
24:43
Speaker 1: it'd be like, that's not the way to do it.
24:45
Speaker 1: Show them with your actions, like keep your mouth shut
24:49
Speaker 1: and go and go dominate and go win and go
24:52
Speaker 1: be successful at whatever you're doing, right, And that was
24:56
Speaker 1: kind of a different generation. I mean, now we show
24:58
Speaker 1: you everything we do on social media. But my point
25:01
Speaker 1: is that Craft didn't need to do any of that.
25:03
Speaker 1: Like his resume speaks for itself. And now he's got
25:06
Speaker 1: like icing on the cake with this Vrabel Drake May operation,
25:10
Speaker 1: which is going nowhere. I mean, they're going into next year.
25:17
Speaker 1: They will be definitely one of the favorites to win
25:22
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again, I would guess win or lose
25:25
Speaker 1: this game. They are a top five gambling odds to
25:30
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl in twenty twenty seven to you know,
25:32
Speaker 1: the twenty sixth season, and then you know, in February
25:35
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty seven, I think the game's in La
25:39
Speaker 1: So and there's a story that you know, Jay Glazier
25:42
Speaker 1: said that Max Crosby's done with the Raiders after that
25:44
Speaker 1: situation where they wouldn't let him play. Diana Russini said
25:48
Speaker 1: that he's going to be hell bent on trying to
25:49
Speaker 1: get to Mike Vrabel. What if I tell you they've
25:51
Speaker 1: added Max Crosby this offseason for like a one and
25:54
Speaker 1: two twos, all of a sudden, Max Crosby's on the
25:56
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. You gonna like him more than I would.
26:02
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think that this I do get.
26:07
Speaker 1: And I was around at the Volume party. We got
26:09
Speaker 1: so many people from Boston. I mean a lot of
26:11
Speaker 1: our sales crew came from Barstool, So there is a
26:15
Speaker 1: large contingent of Boston people. Collins, main guy who runs
26:21
Speaker 1: this entire operation, Jamie Horowitz, the Boston guy, if talking
26:24
Speaker 1: to him like he's going to the game. You know,
26:27
Speaker 1: it's just Boston's loud and proud and they're kind of
26:30
Speaker 1: cocky because they should because their team fucking goes all
26:32
Speaker 1: the time, and if they win this game, they are
26:36
Speaker 1: going to be it's gonna be tough, you know. And
26:40
Speaker 1: I get it. If I was a diehard fan and
26:43
Speaker 1: my team always had this much success, I'd probably be
26:47
Speaker 1: cocky too, you know. I mean I was around when
26:50
Speaker 1: I was young. Every single person I knew walked around
26:54
Speaker 1: high school or junior high with a forty nine or
26:56
Speaker 1: year one all the time. You just expected them to
26:59
Speaker 1: be in this And especially when I was in like,
27:02
Speaker 1: you know, elementary school in junior high, I mean, they
27:04
Speaker 1: were thirteen fourteen wins every single season. So you start
27:09
Speaker 1: having that type success, it builds a false sense of
27:12
Speaker 1: like kind of easy, and you would have been like, oh,
27:14
Speaker 1: the Patriots are kind of dead, and now you look
27:16
Speaker 1: up and they're in the super Bowl. And Robert Kraft
27:19
Speaker 1: who got denied for the Hall of Fame with Bill,
27:22
Speaker 1: which I think next year there's a chance that it's Bill,
27:26
Speaker 1: it's Robert, and it's Tom. I could be wrong, but
27:30
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Tom's going to be eligible next year.
27:33
Speaker 1: And I think it'd be pretty stunning if Bill and
27:35
Speaker 1: Craft don't get in, So it could be the Hall
27:38
Speaker 1: of Fame next year. Could be like an entire Patriots celebration,
27:42
Speaker 1: which feels if I was a betting man, I would
27:45
Speaker 1: guess that happens. I like Seattle in this game. But
27:49
Speaker 1: as I've said over and over, I do not feel
27:51
Speaker 1: great about it, simply because the Patriot's biggest advantage is
27:55
Speaker 1: their coaching. Stucky talked about this Vabels in game adjustments.
28:00
Speaker 1: His understanding of the rules is Belichickian and what he did.
28:04
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's a great example. He's like, hey, we went
28:07
Speaker 1: for it because we got the look we wanted. They
28:09
Speaker 1: just didn't run the same play. Well, no shit, he's
28:13
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been part of some of the great
28:15
Speaker 1: defensive game plans in the history of the league. Of
28:17
Speaker 1: course he didn't run the same play. Mike Grabels smart. Oh.
28:20
Speaker 1: They also have an offensive coordinators coach like fifty playoff
28:23
Speaker 1: games including I think this is I think this is
28:26
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel's ninth Super Bowl as a Patriot assistant coach.
28:29
Speaker 1: Ninth Super Bowl. Think about that, I mean, how do
28:34
Speaker 1: you match that? How do you match that type experience?
28:37
Speaker 1: You know, you simply do not. So couldn't be his
28:43
Speaker 1: ninth Super Bowl because they only want Yeah, I guess
28:45
Speaker 1: they lost a couple, but he would have not been
28:48
Speaker 1: there seven. Maybe they went to nine. This would be his.
28:54
Speaker 1: Now I'm confused because I heard someone say nine, but
28:56
Speaker 1: is eight. He's been to a lot. He's been to
28:59
Speaker 1: a lot, which is hell. He's been to more Super
29:02
Speaker 1: Bowls just in the NFL than Vrabel has, so that
29:06
Speaker 1: the experience factor is massive on the side of New England.
29:11
Speaker 1: And to me that matters because these aren't just random coaches.
29:14
Speaker 1: I think the combination of Rabel and Josh's elite, and
29:17
Speaker 1: anytime you get a defensive kind of guy with an
29:22
Speaker 1: elite offensive coordinator like that is a valuable, valuable skill,
29:25
Speaker 1: And I think the reason people question it sometimes is
29:30
Speaker 1: you think the offensive coordinator is gonna leave, right. Look,
29:33
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak, Sam Darnold have successes, he gets the Raiders' job, Well,
29:37
Speaker 1: who's gonna hire Josh McDaniels. You could argue he's not
29:41
Speaker 1: really hirable as a head coach, so they don't really
29:45
Speaker 1: need to worry about that. He probably could just coach
29:47
Speaker 1: out his career working for Rabel and be there for years. Now,
29:52
Speaker 1: things change, big egos, money. You never just say it's
29:58
Speaker 1: inevitable He's gonna be there for a deck a lock
30:01
Speaker 1: and change at a moment's notice. Losing can expose personalities,
30:05
Speaker 1: but I would bet on him being there for the
30:07
Speaker 1: foreseeable future. A couple of Fugazi Fridays that are are
30:25
Speaker 1: football related, and I'm gonna start with Tom. That'd be
30:29
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, who he has improved dramatically on the microphone
30:35
Speaker 1: I got last year, which you could say it's unfair
30:38
Speaker 1: of his first year, Well you can paid thirty seven
30:40
Speaker 1: million dollars. My expectations are pretty high, and I'm a
30:43
Speaker 1: professional football watcher, so I got a pretty good feel
30:46
Speaker 1: for what's good and bad, and I think we all
30:47
Speaker 1: agreed like it. It was rough, and totally understand learn
30:51
Speaker 1: by doing you get better with experience. I get that,
30:54
Speaker 1: But like he just got thrown on the A team
30:57
Speaker 1: and we had to watch it, and it was it
30:59
Speaker 1: was a roller coast. This year much smoother. He's clearly
31:02
Speaker 1: more comfortable. We've got a better vibe of like, more normal,
31:06
Speaker 1: relatable Tom. He's been really good. But part of having
31:10
Speaker 1: and anyone listening to this knows if you have you
31:15
Speaker 1: know you're a Packer fan, you're an Eagle fan, you're
31:17
Speaker 1: a Niner fan, you're whoever the Cowboys. When your prominent
31:22
Speaker 1: former players who are older and retired support you, it
31:28
Speaker 1: really indebts them to the fans and they become they
31:33
Speaker 1: feel like a huge part of the community years after
31:36
Speaker 1: they're gone. Right, Like it works in college too, Like
31:40
Speaker 1: the Pride and Michael Irvin and Ray Lewis and all
31:42
Speaker 1: those guys have in Miami. I see it with the
31:45
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, the Pride, Ronnie Lott and Steve Young
31:49
Speaker 1: and Brent Jones and Joe Montana taken the forty nine Ers.
31:54
Speaker 1: That means something to the fan base, and it's all
31:58
Speaker 1: around the hell. Even Aaron Rogers he left the Packers,
32:01
Speaker 1: He's like he always said, like I'm really rooting for
32:03
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, I'm rooting for Matt Lafloria. I really like
32:05
Speaker 1: and care about those guys. It's like, Okay, at least
32:08
Speaker 1: it meant something to you, besid, like you're just doing
32:11
Speaker 1: this for a job because you're getting paid a bunch
32:13
Speaker 1: of money and no player. I mean, look at Peyton
32:16
Speaker 1: Manning played for Denver for four years. Every time I
32:18
Speaker 1: look he's at a Denver Bronco game, it feels like
32:20
Speaker 1: he kicked the Colts to the curb and just put
32:23
Speaker 1: all his tips in the middle of the table in
32:24
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Now the Colts, like Pat McAfee became
32:28
Speaker 1: a rock star in terms of the media landscape, and
32:31
Speaker 1: he's always at the Colts game. He plays a huge
32:34
Speaker 1: role of like supporting that franchise, and that means something
32:37
Speaker 1: to the people because you become embedded in that community.
32:41
Speaker 1: When me and Jackson went to the thing on the
32:45
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine Champions thing with Chris Berman, Joe Montana,
32:49
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott, John Taylor, Harris Barton, Joe Montana had a
32:55
Speaker 1: great quote. He's like, let's face it, all five of
33:00
Speaker 1: up here could live anywhere in America, Like, we don't
33:03
Speaker 1: have to live here, but because of these people and
33:07
Speaker 1: the support we've gotten for forty plus years, we choose
33:11
Speaker 1: to stay here. And when Tom Brady, who is known
33:15
Speaker 1: as the greatest player in the history of football and
33:19
Speaker 1: is synonymous with the New England Patriots, has a statute,
33:23
Speaker 1: calls like Robert Kraft a father figure came out immediately
33:27
Speaker 1: when Bill Belichick was snubbed, feels like Edelman and Gronkowski
33:33
Speaker 1: like brothers to him. Still feels really close to Rabel,
33:38
Speaker 1: just like interwoven in the fabric of Boston sports. Is
33:44
Speaker 1: asked about who he's rooting for, it says he has
33:47
Speaker 1: no dog in the fight. I got a red flag.
33:51
Speaker 1: That's that's absolutely embarrassing. And you can go, well, he's
33:57
Speaker 1: a part owner, he calls games. I don't think anyone
34:02
Speaker 1: would hold it against him. He doesn't have to say, well,
34:04
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on my Patriot jersey, but he could
34:07
Speaker 1: easily say, of course, Robert Kraft is a close, close
34:11
Speaker 1: friend of mine. Means a lot in my life. I've
34:15
Speaker 1: known Mike Rabel for twenty five years. I'm rooting for
34:18
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Do you think, like being a parcel owner
34:21
Speaker 1: of the Raiders or working for Fox, anyone would be like,
34:24
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can say that, or do
34:26
Speaker 1: you think most people would go totally understand, like I
34:29
Speaker 1: get it for him to go corporate, I got no
34:32
Speaker 1: dog in the fight. That is something that should irk
34:36
Speaker 1: the fans because it kind of feels like he doesn't
34:44
Speaker 1: give a shit about Boston, like truly doesn't. You know,
34:48
Speaker 1: moved out, left, never came back, not even thinking about
34:51
Speaker 1: coming back. And I could be wrong on this. Peyton's
34:56
Speaker 1: done that a little with Indy. I do feel like
34:59
Speaker 1: Peyton's in Denver was more interwoven with Elway made multiple
35:06
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Was a little different than Tom's in Tampa,
35:10
Speaker 1: which they obviously won one two. You could argue it
35:13
Speaker 1: was a Fugazi season twenty twenty. I mean, the forty
35:16
Speaker 1: nine ers got kicked out of Wackoville and Santa Clara
35:18
Speaker 1: had to come to Arizona because they just weren't allowed
35:21
Speaker 1: to do anything there, and Arizona was just rocking and
35:24
Speaker 1: rolling like nothing was weird. And you know, December of
35:27
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, like half the stadiums couldn't have fans and
35:32
Speaker 1: the others that had fans. Most of the media called
35:35
Speaker 1: them super spreader events that actually happened. That was the
35:38
Speaker 1: time and place that happened in this country. But I
35:42
Speaker 1: just think Tom Brady saying that to me, it's like,
35:47
Speaker 1: come on, man, you don't you can be a human
35:50
Speaker 1: on this, And maybe he's not, And then that to
35:53
Speaker 1: me would be kind of telling. Maybe he doesn't give
35:56
Speaker 1: a shit, Maybe he doesn't want the Patriots to win,
35:59
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't want the Patriots and Drake may to
36:01
Speaker 1: be a Super Bowl champion. I don't know how that
36:03
Speaker 1: would impact him at all, but maybe he's not rooting
36:07
Speaker 1: for them, which I think if you take that kind
36:11
Speaker 1: of angle and put that in your mind, if you're
36:13
Speaker 1: a Patriot fan like that, that would suck. Like what,
36:16
Speaker 1: he's not even gonna root for the guys, doesn't even care.
36:19
Speaker 1: He's just he's just not on our team anymore, not
36:23
Speaker 1: a part of our franchises. Doesn't give a shit that
36:26
Speaker 1: that would suck, and that feels like it might be
36:28
Speaker 1: at play the other gigantic fugazi. Today we've been talking.
36:33
Speaker 1: I've been hammering this international thing right, UK, France, Spain, Brazil, Mexico.
36:40
Speaker 1: So Jed York was like, we want to play one
36:43
Speaker 1: of our if we're gonna get a home game taken away,
36:45
Speaker 1: we want to go to Mexico. We have a big
36:47
Speaker 1: fan base. Jerry said the same thing, the Cowboys big
36:51
Speaker 1: fan base. Those two teams desperately want to play games
36:53
Speaker 1: in Mexico, and I listen, it's hard to avoid. You're
36:56
Speaker 1: gonna get put in some of these games. If I
36:58
Speaker 1: would have guessed that, yeah, is gonna end up in
37:00
Speaker 1: a game of Mexico, well, got announced today that them
37:04
Speaker 1: and the Rams are playing a game in twenty twenty
37:06
Speaker 1: six in Melbourne, Australia. I googled it. I've been in
37:13
Speaker 1: New Zealand one time with my dad for a couple
37:15
Speaker 1: of weeks back when I was like thirteen years old.
37:19
Speaker 1: It was he was actually there. I came by myself,
37:23
Speaker 1: which I don't even know if they'd allow you. Maybe
37:25
Speaker 1: I was twelve and it was a long flight. I
37:28
Speaker 1: think it was like thirteen fourteen hours. I've never been
37:30
Speaker 1: to Australia, so I googled it SFO to Australia. It
37:35
Speaker 1: said fifteen hours and twenty minutes. So if you say
37:38
Speaker 1: it's give or take fifty minutes from SFO to LAX,
37:42
Speaker 1: it's about fourteen and a half hours from Los Angeles
37:45
Speaker 1: to Australia. That is absurd. What are we And this
37:53
Speaker 1: is nothing against Australia, and I would imagine it's going
37:55
Speaker 1: to be really cool. These are very passionate people about sports,
37:59
Speaker 1: like it's gonna work. But to force teams to take
38:03
Speaker 1: a fifteen hour plus flight to play one of the
38:07
Speaker 1: best games on both their schedules, to me seems pretty insane.
38:13
Speaker 1: It really does. And if I was McVeigh if I
38:16
Speaker 1: was less need, if I was John Lynch and I
38:17
Speaker 1: was Kyle Shanahan, I would be really fucking pissed, Like,
38:21
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Guys? If you're gonna make us
38:25
Speaker 1: play in London or Mexico, okay, everyone's had to do it,
38:28
Speaker 1: but you're gonna make us play in Australia, which you
38:32
Speaker 1: have to take a West Coast team because if that
38:34
Speaker 1: you took, like Philadelphia versus the Giants, that my guess
38:38
Speaker 1: would be that'd be a twenty plus hour flight, so
38:40
Speaker 1: you couldn't do that, but like you're going over fifteen hours.
38:43
Speaker 1: I was talking to a couple guys on our staff.
38:47
Speaker 1: Logan who's one of our big wigs. He's flying from
38:51
Speaker 1: Boston to you know, to SFO, like all these guys
38:54
Speaker 1: coming out to the Super Bowl, and Mitch, who is
38:57
Speaker 1: Sherman's guy, flew from DETROITFO. And they both said both
39:01
Speaker 1: their flights were like five and a half to six
39:03
Speaker 1: hours something with the win, but it was a long flight.
39:06
Speaker 1: And I said, you don't, I think the five hour
39:09
Speaker 1: flight really sucks because you're like three hours in. Maybe
39:12
Speaker 1: you watch the movie, maybe you listen to something, trying
39:14
Speaker 1: to be like okay, we're probably pretty close. And then
39:16
Speaker 1: you look and you still got two plus hours a
39:19
Speaker 1: fifteen hour flight. You could watch the Godfather trilogy and
39:23
Speaker 1: still have time to read a book. Like, I don't
39:26
Speaker 1: care who you are, I think we have to be
39:28
Speaker 1: in agreement. Seems like a tad greedy, seems like a
39:31
Speaker 1: tad much and seems like it really really fucks the
39:36
Speaker 1: teams that are playing, and that being the Rams and
39:40
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, which is a really important game
39:42
Speaker 1: for the league, and both those two teams I would
39:46
Speaker 1: guess because of the time difference, this is gonna be
39:48
Speaker 1: a six thirty am Pacific Standard time kickoff, which to
39:53
Speaker 1: me just sucks. And uh, I don't really know what
39:57
Speaker 1: else to say besides feels like a massive foguyz okay,
40:15
Speaker 1: let's do a little mail bag at John Middlecoff. At
40:18
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those DMS questions
40:24
Speaker 1: answered here on the show. Congrats on the new baby.
40:28
Speaker 1: I have a six month old. To your point, it's
40:30
Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. I feel like nobody is discussing
40:35
Speaker 1: how much of a coaching advantage the Pats have in
40:38
Speaker 1: this game. McDaniels and Vrabel have tons of Super Bowl experience,
40:44
Speaker 1: and it comes when it comes to dealing with things
40:47
Speaker 1: like the extended halftime. Do you agree either way, lifelong
40:52
Speaker 1: sc fan rooting for Darnold, It definitely doesn't hurt. It
40:57
Speaker 1: definitely doesn't hurt. I've said this earlier. I will say
41:02
Speaker 1: this over again. It's the thing that gives me pause
41:06
Speaker 1: for making an uncomfortable bet on Seattle, and I'm not
41:10
Speaker 1: gonna do it because I'm not going to bet the
41:13
Speaker 1: farm against the coaching staff, even though I think Seattle's
41:16
Speaker 1: gonna win, and it wouldn't shock me if they do
41:19
Speaker 1: control a victory. But it's a the players, and every
41:24
Speaker 1: good coach has always said this. You need good players.
41:27
Speaker 1: Of course, you know Vrabel, they have good players, Christ Gonzalez,
41:31
Speaker 1: stud corner, Milton Williams has been awesome for them. I mean,
41:34
Speaker 1: Drake may has had a great second season, you know, Booties,
41:39
Speaker 1: come on, Diggs has made plays, Henderson's had big runs
41:43
Speaker 1: like they've They've just They've had a lot going for
41:48
Speaker 1: him in a positive way. But I think there's a
41:50
Speaker 1: talent gap between these two teams. But coaching matters, and
41:54
Speaker 1: that can This is not basketball, where if I got
41:57
Speaker 1: Steph Curry and Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson his prime.
41:59
Speaker 1: Good luck. I'm gonna kick your ass in football, like
42:03
Speaker 1: we've seen Belichick do this before, we saw Eli Manning
42:06
Speaker 1: and Tom Coughlin do this before. You can overcome with
42:10
Speaker 1: scheme and some big flute plays or some trick plays.
42:14
Speaker 1: And I would imagine, you know, Josh McDaniel's been a
42:17
Speaker 1: part of a lot of big trick plays over the
42:19
Speaker 1: years with Bill and I would guess they're gonna run
42:22
Speaker 1: some in this game. Maybe a fake punt, maybe a
42:24
Speaker 1: double pass, help, maybe something you don't see coming. So
42:29
Speaker 1: that's the thing that gives me pause. And that way,
42:30
Speaker 1: if I was a Seattle fan, I would be more
42:33
Speaker 1: nervous of the the Vrabel McDaniels, like what am I
42:36
Speaker 1: gonna get than I would just you know, booty looking
42:41
Speaker 1: like Jerry Rice. Congrats on being a dad. My wife
42:46
Speaker 1: and I are both thirty four of their first child
42:48
Speaker 1: on the way. Congratulations. So it's really nice getting a
42:51
Speaker 1: little bit of a roadmap. Buckles as my former producer
42:56
Speaker 1: who left me for a Joe that'd be Fat Joe
42:59
Speaker 1: and Jay Kiss, which is a massive podcast. This is
43:02
Speaker 1: now on Netflix as Well has been telling me for
43:05
Speaker 1: a while and officially said it when I had the baby.
43:07
Speaker 1: Buckle up, and that's what I would say to you.
43:09
Speaker 1: Buckle up. It's a good buckle up. It's like buckling
43:12
Speaker 1: up in a in a sweet new car, right, you
43:15
Speaker 1: gotta buckle up in a shitty Pinto. You'd rather buckle
43:17
Speaker 1: up in a Ferrari or whatever, but it's you better
43:21
Speaker 1: make sure your buckle did And because no looking back
43:26
Speaker 1: with a Super Bowl, who is going to look worse
43:30
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson or Amy Strunk. The Jets had their first
43:36
Speaker 1: true franchise quarterback since name it on the roster and
43:40
Speaker 1: fed it up, while the Titans literally dropped Vrabel, who
43:43
Speaker 1: won big with Tannehill. I I think the Titans Sam
43:52
Speaker 1: Darnold was not playing well, like it was not working
43:56
Speaker 1: and he never had success. You know, Vrabel had two
43:59
Speaker 1: bad years, definitely one really bad year, especially after a
44:02
Speaker 1: j Brown, you know, got traded. So like coaches have
44:07
Speaker 1: been fired for losing, but players like Sam Darnold never
44:12
Speaker 1: stick around. When they get drafted high and they're really bad,
44:14
Speaker 1: They're consistently moved, so I think it's easy to go.
44:18
Speaker 1: The Jets made a mistake looking back, but he never
44:22
Speaker 1: would have played like that on the Jets, and he
44:23
Speaker 1: literally did not. So I think the Jets is more understandable.
44:28
Speaker 1: I think with the Titans it's like, guys, he got
44:31
Speaker 1: fired for being mean. Think about that, he got fired
44:34
Speaker 1: for being mean. It's like, well, I mean part of
44:37
Speaker 1: Listen Rabel doesn't own the business. He's an employee, but
44:41
Speaker 1: he's a football coach. Football coaches are angry, and Henry
44:47
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne told me yesterday Kyle Shanahan is grumpier than Belichick.
44:52
Speaker 1: Even Sherman's like, yeah, you can be a little grumpy.
44:55
Speaker 1: Coaches are grumpy. Not everyone's Belichick or I mean Andy
44:58
Speaker 1: Reid or Pete Carroll. They are more of a Your
45:01
Speaker 1: personality is your personality. Congrats on the new gig on Netflix.
45:05
Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag, I'm a big time Pats fan.
45:08
Speaker 1: Why does nobody give us a credit we deserve? I
45:11
Speaker 1: understand the schedule argument, but what can the Patriots do
45:13
Speaker 1: to earn the respect that we deserve? You win the
45:16
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? They can't say bleep. They can never take
45:22
Speaker 1: away your ring. And this ring in a weird way,
45:26
Speaker 1: you know, like when you guys first won it in
45:27
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, no one saw coming. You guys
45:31
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, big underdogs in the Super Bowl
45:34
Speaker 1: game winning kick John Madden on the call, like that's
45:38
Speaker 1: gotta be number one, just like the Red Sox. I
45:41
Speaker 1: think of one four World Series this century. The first
45:44
Speaker 1: one was the best one by far because no one
45:47
Speaker 1: saw coming. They were down three to nothing to the Yankees.
45:50
Speaker 1: You could never take that moment away. The Patriots, I
45:53
Speaker 1: would say twenty eight to three was pretty remarkable. The
45:56
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler pick, Like they've had huge moments, but they
45:59
Speaker 1: were favored in those games, like they were favored against
46:02
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. I don't have the line up the
46:07
Speaker 1: top of my head against Seattle, they were definitely. I'm stuck.
46:09
Speaker 1: You even said they were four and a half point
46:11
Speaker 1: favored against the Falcons, who were the one seed and
46:13
Speaker 1: who just had the MVP, and they came back from
46:18
Speaker 1: twenty eight to three. You guys won the Super Bowl.
46:22
Speaker 1: No one's gonna care about strength of schedule beating Stidham.
46:28
Speaker 1: Who cares you think anyone goes Hey, Trent Dilferd, you
46:31
Speaker 1: had a great defense, Like, yeah, I won the Super
46:33
Speaker 1: Bowl to starting quarterback, I read a story how Goodell
46:37
Speaker 1: said the Rooney rule needs some work, but then he
46:40
Speaker 1: proceeded to say, all ten teams this hiring cycle met
46:43
Speaker 1: the Rooney rule. So if all the teams met the
46:46
Speaker 1: Rooney rule and still hired the quote unquote best candidate,
46:50
Speaker 1: nine of ten were not minorities, what does there need
46:54
Speaker 1: to be work on? Because in my mind, the hiring
46:57
Speaker 1: of a candidate that is or isn't a minority, if
47:00
Speaker 1: it's not a good fit, will result in a worst
47:03
Speaker 1: football product. I think this, you know, I think the
47:07
Speaker 1: Flora is thing to me, Flores is clearly an elite candidate.
47:12
Speaker 1: He failed one place, kind of like he had as good.
47:15
Speaker 1: He had better success than Sala. I think the thing
47:18
Speaker 1: that makes it complicated for him is he's literally suing
47:20
Speaker 1: the league. Now again, Flores didn't get it. He's making
47:24
Speaker 1: six million dollars, Like there are head coaches in the
47:27
Speaker 1: league that do not make six million dollars, So it's
47:30
Speaker 1: not like he's in the poorhouse. And I think if
47:33
Speaker 1: he wasn't actively suing the league, I'd be a little
47:37
Speaker 1: surprised if Brian Flores wasn't head coach. But I'm not sure,
47:41
Speaker 1: Like you know, part of it is. We can debate
47:45
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy like, is are the Steelers crazy? None of
47:49
Speaker 1: these coordinators are a better candidate than him. He's won
47:52
Speaker 1: a super Bowl and he literally went to the Cowboys
47:54
Speaker 1: and won twelve straight games or twelve games three years
47:56
Speaker 1: in a row and won the Division two had of
47:58
Speaker 1: three years, Like he can things to a resume. He
48:01
Speaker 1: knows how to run an operation, he knows how to
48:03
Speaker 1: call the offense. He knows how to run drafts and
48:05
Speaker 1: free agency with a GM. So it's like people talk
48:08
Speaker 1: a bunch of about him, like no one sitting there,
48:12
Speaker 1: like Vance Joseph can't sit in a meeting room and
48:16
Speaker 1: say he's and be a better candidate. Now you could
48:19
Speaker 1: argue that maybe the upside, and but like Vance Joseph
48:23
Speaker 1: was one of the main candidates. To me, seems like
48:26
Speaker 1: a good guy and he's done a good job in
48:29
Speaker 1: Denver when he was a head coach. It did not
48:30
Speaker 1: go well. Now you'd say the same thing for Robert Sala.
48:34
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, I John Harbought obviously
48:38
Speaker 1: takes a spot. We could argue Stefanski, you know, and
48:41
Speaker 1: it does feel like they were just all in Stefanski
48:43
Speaker 1: and that's fair, you know, mentor like they were hiring
48:47
Speaker 1: Mincher the whole time. I think Jesse Minterer was gonna
48:51
Speaker 1: be the Baltimore Ravens coach no matter what. Arizona. I
48:55
Speaker 1: wouldn't take that job if I was Vance Joseph, and
48:58
Speaker 1: maybe he wouldn't. I mean some of these guys were
49:00
Speaker 1: yanking their names out of the like no one wanted
49:05
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown job. Like would Brian Flores taken the
49:09
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown job? Hopefully not, He'd be crazy if he would.
49:12
Speaker 1: No one wanted the Arizona Cardinal job. And when you
49:16
Speaker 1: look at it, when you look at the Raiders, like
49:18
Speaker 1: they needed an offensive coach and they were gonna hire
49:20
Speaker 1: an offensive coach. They're drafting this quarterback. So I think
49:24
Speaker 1: sometimes cycles are just based on the candidates who's available.
49:29
Speaker 1: Like last year, Mike Vrabel was getting a job. This year,
49:32
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, once he got fired, was one percent getting
49:35
Speaker 1: a job next year. Assuming Mike Tomlin wants to come back,
49:39
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's a lock to come back.
49:42
Speaker 1: I do think there's a chance he never comes back,
49:45
Speaker 1: but he will be the number one candidate. I would say,
49:47
Speaker 1: buy a wide margin and we'll have his pick of
49:50
Speaker 1: a job. So I don't think there's any easy way
49:54
Speaker 1: to do this, But like this this year was pretty
49:57
Speaker 1: terrible in terms of the candidates. Some of the guys
49:59
Speaker 1: that hired, like I Lafleur, I mean, his haircut is atrocious.
50:04
Speaker 1: He's going to get fired in a couple of years,
50:06
Speaker 1: Todd Monkin is gonna get fired. Those are fucking terrible jobs.
50:09
Speaker 1: I mean awful jobs. I mean got awful. Both those guys.
50:15
Speaker 1: I would give over under two and a half years,
50:17
Speaker 1: and I would take the under Todd Monkin's first comments
50:20
Speaker 1: were clearly this Jim Schwartz thing has become kind of emotional.
50:25
Speaker 1: But part of it is he's like, I didn't I
50:28
Speaker 1: didn't game plan against Jim Schwartz. I game I didn't
50:31
Speaker 1: double team Jim Schwartz like double team Miles Garrett. It's like,
50:34
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy. So yeah, I mean, I
50:37
Speaker 1: think some of these hires are terrible, but I think
50:40
Speaker 1: the jobs are terrible. If if I knew Brian Floores
50:44
Speaker 1: like middle Cooff, you think I should take the Browns job,
50:46
Speaker 1: I'd be like, fuck, no, do not take the John.
50:51
Speaker 1: How do you like live in Arizona should take the Cardinals. No,
50:53
Speaker 1: do not take that job. So it's not like how
50:57
Speaker 1: much you think the Cardinals are playing Matt Lafleur or
51:00
Speaker 1: Micha laflor My guess would be Brian Flores makes more
51:04
Speaker 1: money in Minnesota than Micha Laflora makes with the Arizona Cardinals.
51:08
Speaker 1: My guess is Brian Flores makes more money than Todd
51:15
Speaker 1: Munkin makes with the Cleveland Browns. I got a piece
51:18
Speaker 1: of advice for you, you know. I I I think
51:22
Speaker 1: sometimes titles now you're you get to be the boss.
51:26
Speaker 1: But like we're all doing this for money, whatever our
51:28
Speaker 1: professions are. There are some people that don't get the
51:30
Speaker 1: notoriety or get known to some other people that double
51:33
Speaker 1: their salary in all different types of industries. So Brian
51:37
Speaker 1: floor has got a pretty good gick. Now who knows,
51:39
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't pretend to know everything with
51:42
Speaker 1: his lawsuit, but you know, it's probably why Gruden's never
51:44
Speaker 1: gonna get rehired. He's suing the league, you know. So
51:48
Speaker 1: it's just once you become like a head coach, and
51:53
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that you could argue is like,
51:57
Speaker 1: how come you know Robin sol is a minority, but
51:59
Speaker 1: like he immediately like, oh, the jet stink didn't kind
52:04
Speaker 1: of follow him where it felt like Vance Joseph's first
52:07
Speaker 1: go around followed him. But Rahee Morris took him a
52:09
Speaker 1: little bit longer. And that's fair. But like I saw
52:12
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris be a head coach, not very good. But again,
52:17
Speaker 1: Rahee Morris is making like five million dollars now to
52:20
Speaker 1: be the defense. Raheem Morris is making more of this
52:22
Speaker 1: year than Michael flor I would I feel pretty confident
52:24
Speaker 1: saying that it'd be one thing. It's like God Flores
52:30
Speaker 1: really getting fucked. He's only making two hundred grand. It's like, no,
52:34
Speaker 1: it's not really the way it's working here. It's got
52:36
Speaker 1: a pretty good gig. I mean, hell, he just played
52:38
Speaker 1: a role in getting the GM fired. Caleb gets a
52:44
Speaker 1: lot of hate for his completion percentage, but this team
52:47
Speaker 1: also led the league in drops. Do you think this
52:49
Speaker 1: is a freak stat that will regress to the mean
52:53
Speaker 1: or is his ball speed gonna result in a higher
52:56
Speaker 1: drop percentage? Well, I think if you look at farv,
53:00
Speaker 1: you know when you throw the ball that hard, and
53:01
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. To bring up is
53:06
Speaker 1: it's much easier to catch Alex Smith's ball. Philip Rivers
53:11
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning three a very catchable ball. Caleb Williams Like,
53:16
Speaker 1: it's hard to be a catcher for Randy Johnson. So yeah,
53:19
Speaker 1: he's gonna have some drops, even on days that aren't
53:23
Speaker 1: freezing cold. So yes, to me, completion percentage not as
53:27
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for sixty eight percent from Kayleb Williams,
53:30
Speaker 1: But to me, what I think is fair is like
53:34
Speaker 1: some of the layup throws that he overthrows, because if
53:37
Speaker 1: he can start hitting those with just a little bit
53:39
Speaker 1: more touch, then to me, you you could really cook
53:46
Speaker 1: with gas and you could have like the number one
53:49
Speaker 1: offense in the league. You could have a team that's
53:51
Speaker 1: competing to be the number one seed. But right now
53:53
Speaker 1: they're kind of like a feast or famine. It's like
53:55
Speaker 1: when it's on, it's on, and when he's off it
53:59
Speaker 1: just they can go like they could look like the
54:01
Speaker 1: Eagles from a passing game standpoint. But he's gonna have
54:07
Speaker 1: more drops than let's say, Dak Prescott. It's much easier
54:11
Speaker 1: to catch Dak Prescott's ball than it is Caleb Williams ball,
54:15
Speaker 1: and obviously these are NFL receivers. If they're looking at
54:18
Speaker 1: it in stride, they're gonna catch the ball. But on
54:21
Speaker 1: plays where you're just a little late to turn around,
54:23
Speaker 1: where he's got to get rid of it a little
54:25
Speaker 1: quicker than he wants to in your reaction time, the
54:28
Speaker 1: ball's on you faster. So that's a great point. It's
54:33
Speaker 1: a great point a tough season from a Chiefs What
54:37
Speaker 1: would you prioritize for KC this offseason? What would you
54:41
Speaker 1: do with the ninth pick. I've fallen in love with love,
54:45
Speaker 1: but I still have the scars from Clyde Edwards Hilaire.
54:50
Speaker 1: I also like the idea of going after Breese Hall
54:53
Speaker 1: and drafting the best dligneman available. I hate the idea
54:57
Speaker 1: of drafting Caleb Downs. I'm sure he is great, but
55:00
Speaker 1: positional value and money. I think they're gonna draft alignment.
55:05
Speaker 1: I'd be stunned if they don't draft the defensive alignment.
55:07
Speaker 1: I was talking to Sherman about this last night. We
55:10
Speaker 1: were talking about the Super Bowl when they were playing
55:11
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and how you know, he knew what was
55:15
Speaker 1: coming and then they kind of screwed up on the
55:17
Speaker 1: play that Mahomes had a big throw down late in
55:19
Speaker 1: that game. The forty nine Ers were up ten, But
55:21
Speaker 1: we were just talking about Coach Reid and that offense,
55:24
Speaker 1: and we both agreed it would be stunning if Andy
55:29
Speaker 1: Reid and Bret Ves took Jeremiah Love. Not because Jeremiah
55:32
Speaker 1: Love is not a great player, but Jeremiah Love is one.
55:38
Speaker 1: Andy wants to throw the ball to the running backs
55:42
Speaker 1: in which he ideally wants would be Jamal Charles, Shady McCoy,
55:47
Speaker 1: Brian Westbrook, a versatile guy that I can actually throw you.
55:50
Speaker 1: I can give you eight carries and I can throw
55:52
Speaker 1: you the ball eight times, so I can give you
55:54
Speaker 1: sixteen touches. But I do it a lot through the
55:57
Speaker 1: passing game. Jeremiah Love is like Kyle Shanahan, the way
56:02
Speaker 1: Lafleur treats Josh Jacobs like I'm going to ride you
56:06
Speaker 1: like in Theory Rabel did with Derrick Henry. I'm gonna
56:10
Speaker 1: ride you between the tackles. And to me, that's not
56:14
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs need. So I my guess, as of
56:17
Speaker 1: February fifth, I do not expect the kanc Chiefs draft
56:19
Speaker 1: year of my Love, and I would expect them to
56:22
Speaker 1: draft one of the defensive linemen, whoever the best defensive
56:25
Speaker 1: lineman on the board is what I would expect them
56:27
Speaker 1: to do, or offensive lineman. Both the top offensive linemen
56:32
Speaker 1: technically are right tackles, so they could put in a
56:35
Speaker 1: guy at right tackle. They get Simmons at left tackle,
56:37
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they go, we have an
56:40
Speaker 1: extremely talented young rookie contract tackles. I think you could
56:44
Speaker 1: easily justify doing that. I don't think it would be
56:47
Speaker 1: crazy at all to take one of the tackles if
56:49
Speaker 1: they're there, or one of the pass rushers. Am I
56:53
Speaker 1: crazy to think that Deshaun Watson's career isn't over and
56:56
Speaker 1: he could be the next quarterback that goes to a
56:58
Speaker 1: new team and is good if you look past the
57:00
Speaker 1: off field stuff. When he was in Houston, he was elite.
57:03
Speaker 1: The problem is that's a long time ago. Like what
57:06
Speaker 1: year do you think Deshaun Watson was last with the
57:09
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and playing football, because remember he was the
57:14
Speaker 1: one year he got in trouble, he got injured. Remember
57:17
Speaker 1: he missed like essentially two straight years. My guess would
57:21
Speaker 1: be Deshaun Watson's last year for the Houston Texans was
57:24
Speaker 1: like twenty nineteen, so looking yeah, he did not play
57:30
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. So his last year was twenty
57:32
Speaker 1: twenty when they went four and twelve, and he had
57:35
Speaker 1: a great season. He threw thirty three touchdowns, but his
57:37
Speaker 1: team lost a bunch of games. He has been The
57:41
Speaker 1: crazy part is he has started six six that's twelve
57:47
Speaker 1: and he started nineteen games in his career for Cleveland
57:50
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three, twenty four to twenty five. They
57:52
Speaker 1: paid two hundred and thirty million dollars for nineteen games,
57:56
Speaker 1: fourteen nineteen touchdowns and and twelve interceptions and a completion
58:03
Speaker 1: percentage around sixty. He's been objectively bad with Cleveland. So
58:10
Speaker 1: he has not been a good quarterback for five seasons.
58:16
Speaker 1: Like that's a wide gap, and then you factor in injuries.
58:20
Speaker 1: I'd be stunned. I think if they cut him, no
58:24
Speaker 1: one touches him. Now I wouldn't say no chance, no
58:27
Speaker 1: one touches him. You never say that in the NFL.
58:30
Speaker 1: Maybe someone gives him a training camp invite, but I
58:34
Speaker 1: think there's a decent chance he never plays in the
58:36
Speaker 1: NFL again. And once Cleveland gets rid of him, and
58:39
Speaker 1: he's so rich, it doesn't matter. I mean, he's the
58:41
Speaker 1: Texans gave him a big contract and then he got
58:43
Speaker 1: the two hundred thirty million dollars. He's made multiple big contracts.
58:46
Speaker 1: Perhaps I can sway your opinion on Stefanski. You recently
58:49
Speaker 1: stated Monken doesn't have a chance on God's Green Earth
58:51
Speaker 1: with the Browns function at an average level due to
58:53
Speaker 1: ownership GM. Knowing this doesn't that make Stefanski's tenure more impressive.
58:58
Speaker 1: In twenty one, nearly beat the Chiefs to advance the
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Speaker 1: AFC Championship. In twenty three, he led a team with
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Speaker 1: Massage Watson and a week twelve signing and Joe Flacco
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Speaker 1: who an eleven and six record. These two seasons are
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Speaker 1: always brought up, but they are literally two of the
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Speaker 1: best Brown seasons since nineteen ninety four. I just pushed
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Speaker 1: back against that he's just some no brainer immediately get
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Speaker 1: hired like he did coach. I'm not acting like he's
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Speaker 1: the village idiot. I'm not acting like he's Freddie Kitchens
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Speaker 1: or Jim tom Sula. That's not what I'm doing. I
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Speaker 1: just think that he is discussed, like, I mean, one
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Speaker 1: of the top offensive coaches, and I just witnessed him
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Speaker 1: this year have statistically one of the worst offenses of
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Speaker 1: all time, where it's like he couldn't manipulate anything, and
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Speaker 1: clearly from an evaluation standpoint, he chose Dylan like that
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Speaker 1: was him. He picked Dylan Gabriel in the third round.
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Speaker 1: It's one of the craziest things in the league history.
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Speaker 1: It really is. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic either.
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Speaker 1: I truly believe that, but I agree, like it's this
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Speaker 1: is why I'm not acting like he totally sucks what.
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Speaker 1: He's had some impressive years. He's clearly a smart guy.
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Speaker 1: I'm not acting like he sucks. So if I come
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Speaker 1: off that way sometimes I don't necessarily mean to. I
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Speaker 1: think he's I think he's fine. He's better than He's
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Speaker 1: gonna be way better in Munkin Modkin Mudkin with Andrew
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Speaker 1: Berry and that thing No and Shadoor and Watson. That
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Speaker 1: thing is going to be a nightmare. When he got
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Speaker 1: up there and started talking shit about Jim Schwartz, It's like, Bro,
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Speaker 1: you see his outfit with the baggy jeans. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he looked like a classic, like you know, sixty year
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Speaker 1: old dad with like you know, a daughter who's just
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Speaker 1: engaged in like her mid twenties, and he just that
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Speaker 1: thing's got disaster. Rittin, Would I rather have Stefanski as
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Speaker 1: my head coach than Todd? Yes, I am not arguing that.
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Speaker 1: Do you think Buffalo is going to make the same
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Speaker 1: mistake Cleveland made in nineteen It was heavily reported at
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Speaker 1: the time that Baker influenced the decision. Seems like history
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Speaker 1: is repeating himself with Josh in the hiring of Joe Brady.
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Speaker 1: Not saying the Bills and Browns are in the same situation.
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Speaker 1: But I'm reminded that Colin says all the time, your
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Speaker 1: replacement solution should usually not come from down the hall.
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Speaker 1: I tend to agree. I have a hard time comparing
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady to Freddie Kitchens. I think Freddy Kitchens, who
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Speaker 1: was just fired again by Bill Belichick, is just not
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Speaker 1: someone you would pay to coordinate your offense, like you
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Speaker 1: would not want Freddy Kitchens to coordinate your offense. I'm
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Speaker 1: not talking head coach. I'm saying coordinate your offense. And
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Speaker 1: before he was the head coach of the Browns, he
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Speaker 1: had never been a coordinator. He was a running back coach,
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Speaker 1: tight end coach, a quarterback coach, a running back coach.
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Speaker 1: He had never called place and since he left the
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Speaker 1: Browns tight end coach, senior analyst, interim head coach, tight
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Speaker 1: end coach, like he's not a coordinator. So Joe Brady
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Speaker 1: is established. Like Joe Brady can call plays and I
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Speaker 1: don't know him personally, I can just go off watching
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Speaker 1: his press conference. Seems like an impressive guy. I think
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady is much smarter in a higher level cat
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Speaker 1: than Freddie Kitchens. Joe Brady's upside is dramatically different. But
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Speaker 1: here's the key. Josh Allen in twenty twenty six is
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Speaker 1: in a different freaking universe than Baker Mayfield was then.
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Speaker 1: So he's inheriting in the prime of his career, one
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Speaker 1: of the best players of his generation, and they've already
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Speaker 1: worked together. Is it risky? One percent? I was in
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Speaker 1: a conversation with a former Bill last night and he
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Speaker 1: thought the move was insane. He thinks it's gonna fail now.
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Speaker 1: He's a big Sean mc germy guy. He didn't play.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't there when Joe Brady was there. He was
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Speaker 1: there earlier in the late twenty tens. He thought it
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Speaker 1: was stupid. He loved Sean McDermott. Now listen, I'm a
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Speaker 1: Sean mcdermy guy too. But I do think that it
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Speaker 1: can work. I do think that it can work. They
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Speaker 1: harred Jim Leonard, who's an very impressive defensive coordinator, the
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Speaker 1: former Jets safety just stud that could they could just
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Speaker 1: be a well coached team. Now, when it comes to
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Speaker 1: leading the group being the head coach, he's gonna have
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Speaker 1: to prove that he can do that, and that's much
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Speaker 1: harder to do than it is being a coordinator. So
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Speaker 1: that would be my question. I think calling plays, they'll
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Speaker 1: be fine. They'll be good on defense. If Josh plays well,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be a compete for the number one seed.
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Speaker 1: But you know, being a head coach is hard. When
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Speaker 1: to call timeouts, when to you know, the feel of
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Speaker 1: a team just working the sideline differently, I mean, Joe
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Speaker 1: Brady's just been in a box calling place. Now he's
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Speaker 1: on the sideline running the entire team. So that to
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Speaker 1: me gives me possible. But I would not compare this
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Speaker 1: to Freddy Kitchens A Baker Mayfield twenty nineteen. I would not.
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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, and I know there are
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Speaker 1: some parallels the way it played out, but Freddy Kitchens
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Speaker 1: when he was named the head coach to start the
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Speaker 1: previous season, he was the running back coach. Think about that.
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Speaker 1: He was the running back coach, so I would say
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Speaker 1: it's different for sure. Audios the volume