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Chuck & Buck 5-21 Hour 2: Headlines and Sports inevitabilities, ABC's of the Mariners and trying to explain the unexplainable... · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Fly ball deep ready? How much did he get the ball? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Broad crowd already? Now so much for a ground ball.
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Speaker 2: I had to wait for it.
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Speaker 1: It was worth payoffs. Oh my Casley, what are you doing?
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Speaker 2: Normally? I don't believe that that's crowd noise.
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Speaker 1: Ah, but I get what you're doing. I should have
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Speaker 1: just been patient. Just be patient.
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Speaker 2: There's always a plan, very off's coming. Sometimes I stick
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Speaker 2: to it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron on the call Mariner's TV yesterday afternoon, Mariners
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Speaker 1: do in five to four pair of home runs and
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Speaker 1: the seventh inning one from Johnny Pareda and the other
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Speaker 1: from Randy Arose Arena and then the bullpen held on
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Speaker 1: and the Mariners take two out of three from the
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Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox. Despite the craziness of Tuesday night, they
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Speaker 1: do take two out of three from the White Sox.
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Speaker 1: And I do love that. I'm getting more and more,
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Speaker 1: you know, tweets about comparing Aaron to Ron Burgundy with
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Speaker 1: his home run calls.
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Speaker 2: The Julio one the other day, And I think I.
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Speaker 1: Do think that most of them are coming from the
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Speaker 1: same couple of people. Thank you, nick Yepi and he Keith. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and yet and yet I'm getting a lot more of it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: people hearing it now, they can't unhear it.
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Speaker 2: I know it's the best. And I need to go
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Speaker 2: back and listen to the Julio one because that was
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Speaker 2: apparently the most ron Burgundy he's been. I'll find that.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll bring it back for one last day.
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Speaker 1: Uh So, Mariners do win it five to four. Also yesterday,
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Speaker 1: and this is a big topic for US today. JP
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Speaker 1: Crawford announcing yesterday that he's pretty much voluntarily moved the
2:09
Speaker 1: way from the shortstop position to make room for twenty
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Speaker 1: year old rookie Colt Emerson and wants to work on
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Speaker 1: third base and hopefully play third base for this baseball
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Speaker 1: team this year as they pursue their first ever World
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Speaker 1: Series appearance. Just kind of a landmark moment, locker room
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Speaker 1: moment for JP Crawford yesterday. We've already talked about it
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Speaker 1: at great length earlier in the show, but we're not
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Speaker 1: done discussing it. We'll do that later on in the program.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to the rest of your frost brewed cors
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Speaker 1: Like Choose Chill. Headlines from the NBA, the Oklahoma City
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Speaker 1: Thunder won over the San Antonio Spurs yesterday one twenty
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Speaker 1: two to one thirteen. SGA had thirty points winmbin Yama
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Speaker 1: in an off game, twenty one points, seventeen rebounds in.
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Speaker 2: Six Well, it's done all God, he's declining already. I
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Speaker 2: did not expect that from him so early in his career.
3:01
Speaker 1: Series, even at one apiece. They will play game number
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Speaker 1: three in San Antonio with all those churros and those
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Speaker 1: big women. So Charles always says about San Antonio, So yes,
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Speaker 1: all the time, he's always been and Shack laughs every
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Speaker 1: single time that he does it. So that will be
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Speaker 1: on Friday tonight, Cleveland at New York Game two, with
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Speaker 1: the Knicks having pulled off that impossible twenty two point
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Speaker 1: comeback in game number one, so they are certainly in
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Speaker 1: control of the series and we're favorites going in. So
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Speaker 1: they'll play tonight at five o'clock. Stanley Cup Conference Finals
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Speaker 1: finally got started last night after a long delay. The
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas Golden Knights one over Colorado four to two.
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Speaker 1: Montreal will play Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals
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Speaker 1: tonight at Carolinea. The Hurricanes have not played an eleven days.
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Speaker 1: Come on, INNHL, we all recognize how tough you are,
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Speaker 1: how grueling your sport is, how long your year is.
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Speaker 1: But man, your season is too long. Why are you
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Speaker 1: having eleven days off for a team?
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Speaker 2: Seems ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, and yet I know people are
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Speaker 1: yelling because the previous series went seven games. I get it,
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Speaker 1: I get how the math kind of worked out, but
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Speaker 1: many they do stretch it out. You hockey people do
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Speaker 1: like to stretch things out.
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Speaker 2: They do well. They take notes from the NBA.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently, and Aaron Rodgers says this is it. He
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Speaker 1: is going to play one more season in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League and then he's going to call it quits.
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Speaker 1: So he's back with the Pittsburgh Steelers. But did say
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Speaker 1: yesterday I will be playing my final season. This is it.
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Speaker 1: Make no mistake who you are.
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Speaker 2: This is it.
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Speaker 1: Tried to get in the right key this day.
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Speaker 2: That was better.
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Speaker 1: That was much better. So those are your headlines, brought
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Speaker 1: And another keyword comes your way at eight o'clock, So
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Speaker 1: we've got a another heavy baseball show. Man. The Mariners
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Speaker 1: really stepped up this week to give us juicy topics
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Speaker 1: from Colt Emerson to piggyback pitching and JP Crawford's alarmed
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Speaker 1: like startling statement yesterday self sacrifice yesterday, and we certainly
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Speaker 1: are going to talk a lot about that coming up
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Speaker 1: on the show today. But in an effort to talk
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Speaker 1: only Mariners today, I found pretty found it pretty interesting
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Speaker 1: that there was a lot of talk about two things
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Speaker 1: that yesterday in the football world, and they were the
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Speaker 1: argument that's going on right now about how large the
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Speaker 1: college football playoff will end up being, and the SEC
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Speaker 1: apparently very bullish that they don't want to get it
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Speaker 1: as far as twenty four teams, and yet the other
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Speaker 1: big conference, the Big Ten, they're very just as bullish
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Speaker 1: about making it a twenty four team college football playoff.
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much that hurts my heart
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Speaker 1: and soul to hear this garbage that I went my
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Speaker 1: entire life, I went my entire career. I boycotted bowl
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Speaker 1: games for about twenty years just so that I could
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Speaker 1: have a college football playoff, And in fifteen minutes they've
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Speaker 1: gone from finally surrendering to the will of the fans
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Speaker 1: to suddenly getting greedy and oversaturating the college football playoff.
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Speaker 1: I knew it was going to happen. Now, Well, what
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Speaker 1: a great idea we stumbled upon. Why didn't we ever
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Speaker 1: think about this? How much better could a twelve team playoff?
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Speaker 1: How much better could a sixteen? Why stop at sixteen,
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Speaker 1: Let's go twenty. Oh no, we're not going to stop
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Speaker 1: until we have twenty four teams, till every team in
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Speaker 1: the SEC and the Big Ten can be in the
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Speaker 1: college football playoff tournament. It is garbage. You are now
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Speaker 1: going to be asking a team to play potentially eighteen games.
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Speaker 2: That seems like way too much for a college.
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Speaker 1: For a college team, potentially eighteen games for a college team.
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Speaker 1: Once upon a time, we wouldn't have a college football
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Speaker 1: playoff because we can't ask our players to play that much.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that would be eleven and twelve, oh geez,
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Speaker 1: and then, oh boy, if they had to play three
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Speaker 1: more games, how can we ask them to play fifteen?
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Speaker 1: And now, no problem, we're making money. Now we see
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Speaker 1: the light. So it's inevitable they're going to ruin it.
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Speaker 1: On the other end, now it's going to be a
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Speaker 1: twenty four team college football playoff. Totally unnecessary, and yet
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Speaker 1: that's what they're where they're going to go with it.
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Speaker 1: There aren't twenty four teams worthy of competing for a
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Speaker 1: national championship. They just aren't. Not in college football.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then teams are gonna be like, well, at
8:01
Speaker 2: least we got into the playoff, but did yet? Like no,
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Speaker 2: I mean most people are, most decent programs are getting in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and sixteen. I don't even like sixteen, but that
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Speaker 1: was the line for me. I'm like, okay, we'll just
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Speaker 1: set the line right there. If you go to sixteen,
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Speaker 1: I can live with sixteen. Twenty four is nonsense. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but it's inevitable, Just like them expanding the college basketball tournament.
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Speaker 1: I could fight it all I want, we could fight
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Speaker 1: it all we want, but they were going to do it,
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Speaker 1: and they're probably not done doing it. So seventy six
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Speaker 1: teams was inevitable, and I would imagine a larger tournament
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Speaker 1: is inevitable still from college basketball. And then the other
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Speaker 1: topic of conversation yesterday and this one, I'm four Ashley,
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Speaker 1: actually Ashley, and that is the eighteen game in FL schedule.
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Speaker 1: I'm actually for this because I think there's a way
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Speaker 1: to do it that would actually make things better for
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Speaker 1: the player. Greg Bell would wholeheartedly disagree with this asking
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Speaker 1: them because he always calls every game a car wreck.
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Speaker 1: To ask him to play one more like they're at
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Speaker 1: the limit, they're at their threshold. But I think if
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Speaker 1: you weaved in two by weeks, and you weaved in
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Speaker 1: a trip to overseas, which they're eventually going to do,
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Speaker 1: and you stretched it out to twenty game schedule, I
9:22
Speaker 1: don't think that's all that taxing. And then if we
9:24
Speaker 1: could get rid of preseason games or at least have
9:28
Speaker 1: just one tune up, maybe two at the most, then
9:31
Speaker 1: maybe it all comes out in the wash. So I
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Speaker 1: don't know if that's asking too much more. Maybe it is,
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Speaker 1: Maybe it is. I'm not thinking of it through a
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Speaker 1: football player's lens. I'm thinking of it through a football
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Speaker 1: fans lens. And as a football fan, I don't want
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Speaker 1: a twenty four team college football playoff. As a basketball fan,
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Speaker 1: I don't want one hundred and twenty eighteen college basketball tournament,
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Speaker 1: and as but as an NFL fan, I mean, are
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Speaker 1: we really gonna be unhappy that we're getting twenty weeks,
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Speaker 1: that we get four more, two to four more weeks
10:06
Speaker 1: of fantasy football in our lives, two to four more
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Speaker 1: weeks of break I mean, we talk about football all
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Speaker 1: year long. Imagine if we get actually for a couple
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Speaker 1: more weeks talk about actual football. And I just don't
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Speaker 1: think that. I get it from a player's perspective, and
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Speaker 1: they'll fight it and they'll lose. But I do think
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Speaker 1: it's inevitable it's going to go to an eighteen game
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Speaker 1: schedule and a twenty week season with two by weeks
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Speaker 1: built into there. And just from a football fans perspective,
10:38
Speaker 1: you want to give me a little more NFL, I'll
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Speaker 1: take it.
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Speaker 2: I would be more open to that idea versus now
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Speaker 2: we're going to start playing football on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursday's, Friday,
10:47
Speaker 2: Saturdays and Sundays. That might happen to I know, but
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Speaker 2: that idea I dislike thoroughly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I also dislike the idea of every team playing two
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Speaker 2: international games, which is probably gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, even mine, that's
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Speaker 1: me being reckless at breakfast, and nobody else is really
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Speaker 1: talking about forty.
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Speaker 2: Nine ers are doing it this year, so I mean
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Speaker 2: they're definitely testing it out on somebody. M hmm. And
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Speaker 2: I that I just I already don't like the idea
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Speaker 2: of one international game assessor, so let alone to that stuff.
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Speaker 2: But an eighteen game season over twenty weeks, I could
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Speaker 2: handle that. It would be interesting. The Super Bowl would
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Speaker 2: be what the end of February.
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Speaker 1: By then, I think they would probably start earlier.
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Speaker 2: Start like the first week of September, maybe at a
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Speaker 2: week on each end.
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Speaker 1: Probably and maybe even two on the front end. I
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Speaker 1: don't think they want to mess with the super Bowl
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Speaker 1: date too much, so my guess is they would just
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Speaker 1: start earlier and warmer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, and the super Bowl date's already gone backwards.
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Speaker 2: I mean they're playing on Presidency Weekend next year, which
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Speaker 2: is finally they're having Monday be a holiday.
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Speaker 1: I a thousand percent get that. Football players has absolutely
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Speaker 1: not You are pushing us to our limits, yes, and
11:57
Speaker 1: I get that our argument, but I just from a
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Speaker 1: fans perspective, you're gonna tell me you're gonna give me
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Speaker 1: one extra game from the team I root for, and
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Speaker 1: you're gonna give me two extra weeks of football viewing
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Speaker 1: h I'll take time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think most people would say yeah, sure, No,
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Speaker 2: most people aren't gonna be like, hmm, sorry, seventeen was
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Speaker 2: my limit. Plus you want to end on an even number.
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Speaker 1: Right, So I think that those things that I mapped
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Speaker 1: out are inevitable in sports. That we're going to get
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Speaker 1: an extended schedule where's going to be eighteen games and
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Speaker 1: twenty weeks. We are going to get a twenty four
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Speaker 1: team college football playoff, and college basketball is not done
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Speaker 1: expanding their tournament either, and I think it's a mistake
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Speaker 1: and I'm less interested in it already, and yet it's inevitable.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing we can do. There's nothing we as fans
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Speaker 1: are going to do to talk them out of trying
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Speaker 1: to capitalize financially on an inferior product. I think just
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Speaker 1: going to do it.
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Speaker 2: The one thing we have to know about the MC
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Speaker 2: two A is they're going to try to get away
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Speaker 2: with whatever they can get away with. And they're the
13:01
Speaker 2: let's go far and we if we have to pull
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Speaker 2: it back, we'll pull it back model. More than let's
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Speaker 2: be gradual about this.
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Speaker 1: I just hate it. I hate that we have one
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Speaker 1: great thing and we're going to ruin it too. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean they have good things. They have other good
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Speaker 1: things about college basketball, not as good as it used
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Speaker 1: to be, but they have good things about it. But
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Speaker 1: why not work on the good things and make them great?
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Speaker 1: And you also have some crap things about your product?
13:27
Speaker 1: How about working on your crap things and make them
13:29
Speaker 1: good and make them palatable and make us interested in
13:32
Speaker 1: them in the middle of the week. And instead you're
13:34
Speaker 1: going to take the one thing we're already all interested
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Speaker 1: in and now you're going to bastardize it. Now you're
13:39
Speaker 1: going to weaken it, then it out. It's infuriating. Yeah,
13:44
Speaker 1: it's on your crap first. Yeah, but that's that's where
13:46
Speaker 1: we are. I mean, sometimes the sports fans, things are
13:48
Speaker 1: out of our control. So what I wanted to ask
13:51
Speaker 1: of you, and I'm catching you off guard with this,
13:53
Speaker 1: potentially uh and the listening audience to put some thought
13:57
Speaker 1: to this, and maybe we'll hit your texts and maybe
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Speaker 1: we'll hit your YouTube thoughts as well. What else is inevitable?
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Speaker 1: What have you resigned yourself to rather whether it is uh,
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Speaker 1: I dread that this is going to happen, but I
14:11
Speaker 1: know it's going to happen, or maybe you're excited about
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Speaker 1: this being the future. What else in sports is inevitable
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Speaker 1: that we should just come to grips with here today,
14:21
Speaker 1: right in this moment, on this radio show, that is
14:25
Speaker 1: going to occur, and we might want to prepare ourselves
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Speaker 1: for it, whether for positive or negative. Does anything come
14:33
Speaker 1: to mind for you anything that is in sports that
14:35
Speaker 1: is inevitable? I surely have a list here myself. Oh
14:38
Speaker 1: do you?
14:39
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have anything off the top
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Speaker 2: of my head, but we already got a text in
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Speaker 2: with somebody asking a question that has I think is
14:47
Speaker 2: a pretty valid question from the two six. Will this
14:50
Speaker 2: mean NFL load management? Because I would say that would
14:53
Speaker 2: seem inevitable. If you're asking them to play more games,
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Speaker 2: you might have people sitting out?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think may I think that could happen? And
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Speaker 1: I think we're already seeing that. I mean, we have
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Speaker 1: running backs that share carries. Yeah, No, I think we're
15:08
Speaker 1: already seeing some of that.
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Speaker 2: They disguise that load management better though than the NFL
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Speaker 2: or the NBA does.
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Speaker 1: It's the NBA. It became noticeable because they're just putting
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Speaker 1: them on the sidelines. So would it be better in
15:21
Speaker 1: the NBA? If you if your star players didn't sit
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Speaker 1: out games, but they only played twelve minutes a night, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because then that looks like tanking, right, So I think
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Speaker 1: the NFL already has been doing that. They've already been
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Speaker 1: load managing. And then a second bye week would also
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Speaker 1: help you load manage. Yeah a little bit, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think so. I even floated out for reckless at
15:47
Speaker 1: Breakfast at one point that what if you played you
15:51
Speaker 1: had a situation where eighteen to play sixteen. So the
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Speaker 1: NFL gets its twenty week schedule and everybody has eighteen games,
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Speaker 1: but players can still only play sixteen games per season.
16:08
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you would have a deeper bench, deeper roster,
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Speaker 1: and you could dangle that in front of the players.
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Speaker 1: They like that. Players association with it like that. And
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Speaker 1: then the strategy of when do you sit your quarterback,
16:21
Speaker 1: when do you sit guys, and when do you have
16:23
Speaker 1: them active? For whom the locker room bulletin board material
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Speaker 1: that you would give a team if you were sitting
16:29
Speaker 1: your quarterback that week against them because he can only
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Speaker 1: play sixteen out of eighteen games. It would also help
16:36
Speaker 1: you manage injuries better, like if you did have you know,
16:39
Speaker 1: if Sam Darnold had a high ankle sprain, then it
16:44
Speaker 1: becomes a little more easier decision. If you had to
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Speaker 1: sit him twice, you could say, Okay, we gotta set
16:50
Speaker 1: him twice. Anyway, why push him through this week. Let's
16:53
Speaker 1: go ahead and let him take care of that ankle.
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Speaker 1: Where in a sixteen game schedule or seventeen games, you
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Speaker 1: probably try to put them out there no matter what, right,
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Speaker 1: because you're trying. Yeah, that might be something that they
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Speaker 1: could do to load manage.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be That would be an interesting way
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Speaker 2: to look at it. I would say that if I
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Speaker 2: was thinking of something that seems inevitable, it would be
17:11
Speaker 2: that we're going to see another sort of conference realignment
17:13
Speaker 2: in college sports. Yeah, and not necessarily that we're getting
17:18
Speaker 2: rid of the Big ten and going back to smaller,
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Speaker 2: but that you'll have Big ten West, Big ten East,
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Speaker 2: probably something like that.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what we could call the Big ten West?
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Speaker 2: I don't know what I do.
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Speaker 1: Do you have PAC twelve?
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Speaker 2: Oh? That would be interesting. But yeah, I think and
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Speaker 2: we've talked about that before. I think that will go
17:37
Speaker 2: that it will go back towards something like that, because
17:39
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's sustainable for these Yes they're
17:42
Speaker 2: raking in tons and tons of money, but in terms
17:46
Speaker 2: of actually the schools and things like that, for these
17:49
Speaker 2: athletes to be traveling across the country, especially when you're
17:53
Speaker 2: looking at basketball and where they're playing two games a week.
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Speaker 1: And this has also been a reckless of breakfast topic.
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Speaker 1: I think that at asolutely is going to happen. There
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Speaker 1: will be some sort of realignment. And what it's going
18:04
Speaker 1: to do is, I mean, it's pretty clear cut. There
18:06
Speaker 1: are power conferences and then there's the SEC and the
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Speaker 1: Big Ten, and I think they're just going to add
18:12
Speaker 1: another layer. They're going to get even bigger. They'll probably
18:15
Speaker 1: cut a couple of programs out of their little you know, party,
18:19
Speaker 1: their little club, their high falutin club, and they're gonna,
18:24
Speaker 1: you know, they're going to tell Kentucky get better at
18:26
Speaker 1: football or else. Yeah, you know, they're gonna tell Northwestern,
18:29
Speaker 1: I don't care about your academics. It's all about money,
18:32
Speaker 1: get better at football or else. I think that's that's
18:35
Speaker 1: going to take place at some point in the future.
18:37
Speaker 1: And I think you're right, and it's comedic that I
18:40
Speaker 1: think eventually the there will be a Pack eight division
18:44
Speaker 1: might not be all twelve, but a pack eight division
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Speaker 1: that's part of an even larger Big Ten conference. Yeah,
18:51
Speaker 1: and we will go back to playing all of the
18:53
Speaker 1: second teams and.
18:54
Speaker 2: Then you'll have one or two games where you're playing
18:56
Speaker 2: someone far away.
18:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's inevitable. I think a Major League
18:59
Speaker 1: Baseball lockout is inevitable to some degree.
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Speaker 2: We got a text about that.
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Speaker 1: I think Rob Manfred is determined to beat I think
19:08
Speaker 1: that's his last act as commissioner. He wants to be
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Speaker 1: the commissioner that got the Players Association to bend to
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Speaker 1: his will. And I think he's going to push hard
19:19
Speaker 1: for this salary cap, which is the one area of
19:22
Speaker 1: the players have said we will never budge upon. So
19:25
Speaker 1: when you've got those two different agendas which are completely
19:30
Speaker 1: opposite of one another, and the Players Association has never
19:33
Speaker 1: been broken in Major League Baseball. They call it the
19:35
Speaker 1: strongest union in the history of the world, and you
19:39
Speaker 1: have a commissioner who's done a lot of good things
19:41
Speaker 1: and feeling pretty good about himself and has one more
19:44
Speaker 1: act of desperation to try to get this done before
19:48
Speaker 1: he calls it quits. Yeah, So he can be remembered
19:52
Speaker 1: for it to be his legacy, I'm betting. I think
19:55
Speaker 1: it's inevitable. How ugly it gets, how long term it gets,
19:58
Speaker 1: I don't know. Frankly think the players are going to
20:01
Speaker 1: have the upper hand. And for one very simple reason,
20:07
Speaker 1: a lockout of players doesn't have the effect that it
20:10
Speaker 1: used to have. Johnny Parada is a millionaire, right, like
20:15
Speaker 1: the last guy on our roster is making a million
20:18
Speaker 1: dollars a year, right, if you fumbled away your millions,
20:23
Speaker 1: and you can't withstand a year's lockout when you are,
20:26
Speaker 1: when you've been paid millions of dollars at this stage
20:29
Speaker 1: in your career, if there is a guy that is like, hey,
20:33
Speaker 1: I'm going paycheck to paycheck over here. Yeah, Well, as
20:36
Speaker 1: absurd as that sounds, then there's somebody out there who's
20:39
Speaker 1: practically where a billion dollars who could say, all right,
20:42
Speaker 1: just so you don't break the union, yeah here, here,
20:45
Speaker 1: I have a little bit. We'll put in a pool
20:47
Speaker 1: for you.
20:48
Speaker 2: We'll prefer it till twenty sixty.
20:49
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I I think that that's inevitable, and I
20:53
Speaker 1: frankly don't think Rob Manford's going to get his way
20:57
Speaker 1: because players are not hurting from money once upon a time,
21:00
Speaker 1: you got your way because there were there were a
21:03
Speaker 1: lot of players making a league minimum that were like, hey,
21:06
Speaker 1: I bought a really expensive house. I got a really
21:09
Speaker 1: nice car, so does the wife. But I'm not rolling
21:12
Speaker 1: in it. I got to get back to work. And
21:14
Speaker 1: now they all, I mean, we've got mariners who still
21:19
Speaker 1: live together, Yeah, to save money, to save their money
21:24
Speaker 1: for when they do make their big contract, right, and
21:26
Speaker 1: so they're way ahead of this. It's going to be
21:30
Speaker 1: hard to get them to buckle because they're never going
21:32
Speaker 1: to be desperate for a.
21:33
Speaker 2: Paycheck, which is a bummer. I would like to see it.
21:35
Speaker 1: I mean, and that aspect is probably going to lead
21:38
Speaker 1: to a much longer term, ugly holdout, and we're probably
21:42
Speaker 1: going to have to go without baseball for a really
21:45
Speaker 1: uncomfortable period of time as baseball fans in the very
21:48
Speaker 1: near future.
21:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do think waiting for it. I mean,
21:51
Speaker 2: I think baseball is doing really well right now. But
21:53
Speaker 2: if you have that, and you have it be over well.
21:55
Speaker 2: We want to make sure we can make the most
21:57
Speaker 2: money ever or that when's telling us that, No, what's
22:01
Speaker 2: telling is we can only make twenty five million dollars
22:03
Speaker 2: a year. I don't think you're gonna get a lot
22:05
Speaker 2: of sympathy from a lot of fans.
22:07
Speaker 1: No, No, it's gonna be it's gonna be nasty. I
22:11
Speaker 1: am not looking forward to it. So soak up this season.
22:15
Speaker 1: Soak it up all you can. We better accomplish something
22:18
Speaker 1: this year. We better not be three games under five
22:22
Speaker 1: hundred a couple of months from now. All right, Mariners.
22:26
Speaker 1: ABC's are coming up next. Keep those texts coming in.
22:30
Speaker 1: I'll try to get this them at some point during
22:32
Speaker 1: the course of the show, whether you're texting or youtubing
22:34
Speaker 1: or tweeting or whatever you want to do. But I'd
22:37
Speaker 1: like to go over the list, and if we don't
22:38
Speaker 1: do it at great length today, we'll do it on
22:41
Speaker 1: a Friday tomorrow. But coming up next, ABC's of the
22:44
Speaker 1: ms for you on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
22:47
Speaker 1: You know something, we just get together and grab a
22:49
Speaker 1: here and just make fun of the Jonas brothers. We
22:51
Speaker 1: do it all the time as men, and so that's
22:55
Speaker 1: about as far as a role they've played in my life.
22:57
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give them credit. That might be my
22:59
Speaker 1: favorite to podcast promo. That was actually funny.
23:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a good one. And it's not one
23:04
Speaker 2: of those ones that you're somebody's saying something really annoying
23:08
Speaker 2: or dumb or like, oh, this is such a something
23:13
Speaker 2: for my eyes, like whatever, that kid did not say that.
23:16
Speaker 2: There's no way your kid speaks like that.
23:20
Speaker 1: Also, if you keep running it, I'm sure I will
23:22
Speaker 1: get tired and sick of it. Yeah, or sick.
23:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, tired and sick.
23:26
Speaker 1: You're right right, right, so yeah, but not bad, not bad.
23:29
Speaker 1: Good job Jonas brothers. You can make a decent promo.
23:32
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the ABC's of the MS.
23:34
Speaker 1: The M's winning over the White Sox yesterday five to four.
23:36
Speaker 1: Had to hold on. Everything's got to be difficult for
23:39
Speaker 1: the Mariners, so they get the job done. They take
23:42
Speaker 1: two out of three, They survive piggyback Gate Round one,
23:46
Speaker 1: and now travel to Kansas City to take on the
23:48
Speaker 1: Royals starting tomorrow night. So a day off today and
23:52
Speaker 1: every day we have the ABC's of the MS. We
23:54
Speaker 1: don't even have Mariners morning after every day because that's
23:57
Speaker 1: after every game and we went out tomorrow, yeah exactly,
24:01
Speaker 1: but we do have abcs of the MS every single day.
24:03
Speaker 1: We allowed the alphabet to be a guide through a
24:05
Speaker 1: Mariner's segment. We left off yesterday at the letter Jay
24:09
Speaker 1: and Jay is for Johnny. Who's Johnny? She said, and
24:13
Speaker 1: smiled in her special way.
24:15
Speaker 2: I don't know that, Oh I do love Okay.
24:20
Speaker 1: Johnny Parreda hits a home run, his first home run yesterday,
24:25
Speaker 1: and although it was his first career home run, he's
24:29
Speaker 1: not exactly a young man, okay. So this is a
24:32
Speaker 1: long time coming for Johnny Parada, and you think he
24:36
Speaker 1: might be jaded at this stage in his career to
24:38
Speaker 1: have waited this long for this opportunity, but he seems
24:42
Speaker 1: like the happiest guy in the ballpark. And Ryan Heally
24:46
Speaker 1: even commented Tuesday about the affect of Johnny Parada and
24:51
Speaker 1: how he loves his energy and there's something about him
24:55
Speaker 1: that really worked for Ryan Heally and I think we've
24:58
Speaker 1: kind of picked up our it as well. And then
25:01
Speaker 1: yesterday he's been ending the ball hard. He just has
25:04
Speaker 1: had a lot of bad luck, and then yesterday to
25:06
Speaker 1: get the big home run and that was the biggest
25:08
Speaker 1: hit of the game that relaxed everybody. A Rose Arena
25:11
Speaker 1: ended up providing the difference in the game, but Johnny
25:15
Speaker 1: pareda put us back up and I like the way
25:18
Speaker 1: he's receiving right now. He's not very quick, he's not sudden,
25:22
Speaker 1: he doesn't move with haste. But I, Ashley, am I crazy.
25:28
Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to be. I don't want
25:30
Speaker 1: another round of dumping on Mitch Garver. But I think
25:34
Speaker 1: when col comes back, I'm leaning toward Johnny Pareda staying
25:39
Speaker 1: on the team.
25:39
Speaker 2: I would agree, And I don't think that's a dump
25:41
Speaker 2: on Mitch Garver. I think that's just a compliment to
25:44
Speaker 2: Johnny Pareda. I mean the pitchers have a great rapport
25:49
Speaker 2: with Garver, yes, that we know, but.
25:51
Speaker 1: It's they seem to already have it with you, yes,
25:54
Speaker 1: but it.
25:54
Speaker 2: Seems like they also have it with Parada. And if
25:56
Speaker 2: we're going to get more of an offensive power from
25:59
Speaker 2: Pareda than from Garver, I mean it might not stick.
26:02
Speaker 1: Actually you wouldn't. I mean, yeah, Mitch Garver has hit
26:06
Speaker 1: a lot of home runs in Major League Baseball. He's
26:08
Speaker 1: supposed to be a power hitter. We just have to
26:11
Speaker 1: seen it a lot. I don't think Johnny Parada can
26:14
Speaker 1: match Mitch Garver's power, But what you might see is
26:17
Speaker 1: somebody that just makes a lot more contact than what
26:20
Speaker 1: Mitch Garver, because Mitch Garver, as Bucky's pointed out, his
26:24
Speaker 1: approach is he's trying to get a walk when he
26:26
Speaker 1: goes to the plate, and so he takes a lot
26:28
Speaker 1: of pitches. He strikes out a lot and where I
26:32
Speaker 1: and he walks some. Not that that does you a
26:34
Speaker 1: lot of good when you need three HiT's to get
26:37
Speaker 1: you in. But Johnny Parada probably will put the ball
26:41
Speaker 1: in play more often. He certainly is making more consistent
26:45
Speaker 1: hard contact than what we've ever seen Mitch Garver make
26:48
Speaker 1: in his short time here.
26:49
Speaker 2: Yes, and I do like that. Yeah, And people do
26:52
Speaker 2: like that.
26:52
Speaker 1: And people do like that. Yes. And this segment is
26:56
Speaker 1: brought to you by Sunset Autumn. All right, let's go
27:00
Speaker 1: to Kay. Kay is for Kitchen, and man, we have
27:04
Speaker 1: seen some remodeling done with this roster. They are remodeling
27:08
Speaker 1: the kitchen fifty games into the year, and they've already
27:12
Speaker 1: made some really significant decision on what they believe they
27:17
Speaker 1: want to go forward with for the last one hundred
27:19
Speaker 1: and ten games of this year. And it's been pretty
27:23
Speaker 1: fascinating to watch already to this point. I mean, cold
27:26
Speaker 1: Emerson's now our shortstop, thanks in part to JP, who
27:29
Speaker 1: will talk about more at eight o'clock. JP Crawford might
27:32
Speaker 1: be our third baseman going forward. Brendan Donovan now might
27:37
Speaker 1: be back in his special super utility role that he
27:41
Speaker 1: thrived in as a Saint Louis Cardinal. We're going to
27:45
Speaker 1: have a decision here in the next couple of days
27:49
Speaker 1: when Victor Roblace gets activated. I'm assuming that it's Connor Joe,
27:55
Speaker 1: but with Brendan Davis crushing the ball into coma. He
27:59
Speaker 1: just hit like a four hundred and forty foot home
28:01
Speaker 1: run over the eye the batter's eye yesterday. I mean,
28:06
Speaker 1: could you do a full sweep there. I know they're
28:09
Speaker 1: gonna have more patience for Rob Refschneider, but there does
28:12
Speaker 1: come a limit. I mean, we're we're still at short
28:15
Speaker 1: sample with ref Schneider at this stage as a Mariner,
28:19
Speaker 1: but it's getting longer, and he doesn't seem to evoke much.
28:25
Speaker 2: Confidence, doesn't seem like it.
28:26
Speaker 1: And he's already expressed how he's really battling himself mentally,
28:31
Speaker 1: and he didn't exactly get on a roll after admitting that.
28:35
Speaker 1: So I don't know if we're gonna see changes there
28:38
Speaker 1: as well. That the two right handed compliments to can
28:42
Speaker 1: Zone and Raleigh a week from now, two weeks from now,
28:45
Speaker 1: do you just pull the band aid? And is it?
28:48
Speaker 1: I mean, Roblaze is almost back, he's ready to come back.
28:51
Speaker 1: He's replacing somebody, right and then Brennan Davis, who they
28:55
Speaker 1: have some contractual obligations to put on the forty man roster.
28:58
Speaker 1: Now he's on the forty man roster right now. You
29:02
Speaker 1: might have to make room for him as well, So
29:05
Speaker 1: we might see some big changes there.
29:07
Speaker 2: And I think that would be warranted. I mean, I
29:11
Speaker 2: know that I'm not the only one who groaned when
29:13
Speaker 2: we saw ref Sneider leading off in the in the
29:15
Speaker 2: lineup on Tuesday. M hm. And I don't know where
29:20
Speaker 2: there is really a place for him in that lineup
29:22
Speaker 2: right now with the way that he's batting, because there's
29:24
Speaker 2: no place for him that I'm that is exuding any confidence.
29:27
Speaker 1: Well in me, he has a recent history, and not
29:31
Speaker 1: just one year, but several years crushing left handers. But
29:35
Speaker 1: like everybody who's been acquired to do that job for
29:38
Speaker 1: us and the Jerry Depoto era, he's not only not
29:41
Speaker 1: getting the job done, he's falling well short. And it's
29:45
Speaker 1: and so I think they're going to give him an
29:47
Speaker 1: extended look. They don't want to admit that they made
29:50
Speaker 1: a mistake, that they picked another guy that apparently has
29:53
Speaker 1: hit hit a career wall. But this year, unlike past years,
29:58
Speaker 1: you might have a better option staring you're right in
30:01
Speaker 1: the face and Brennan Davis and so how much longer
30:05
Speaker 1: do you give Refsnyder hitting ninety eight against lefties and
30:11
Speaker 1: Brennan Davis hitting four hundred and forty foot home runs
30:14
Speaker 1: over the batter's eye in center field. When you've got
30:18
Speaker 1: that competing with what you're living with on a daily basis,
30:21
Speaker 1: it does change the scenario.
30:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying to win a world series.
30:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to win a world series. And again,
30:27
Speaker 1: we're kitchen remodeling this roster on the fly, and we
30:31
Speaker 1: might be, let's say two to four weeks, we might
30:35
Speaker 1: be looking at a somewhat remodeled kitchen, and that might
30:38
Speaker 1: be the group we're going with. And then until the
30:41
Speaker 1: trading deadline, then you can add something else. And even
30:45
Speaker 1: our pitching staff, I mean, Gilbert Kirby, wou Miller, Hancock,
30:49
Speaker 1: I don't know if Miller will continue to be a
30:52
Speaker 1: handcuff to Castillo. Something tells me that's not going to
30:56
Speaker 1: be the case. I think Miller's going to I think
30:58
Speaker 1: we're going to realize Miller's one of our best three
31:00
Speaker 1: starting pitchers. Yeah, so is it next Maybe next turn
31:06
Speaker 1: through the rotation. It's gonna be hard to watch Miller
31:09
Speaker 1: pitch the way he did and then put him in
31:12
Speaker 1: the bullpen because it's Castillo's turn to start. No way,
31:17
Speaker 1: but that's the plan right now. Maybe they changed their mind, Yeah, Hancock,
31:23
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Hancock in Castillo next time through the rotation.
31:26
Speaker 1: And as Anders pointed out, the guy that's having the
31:28
Speaker 1: most trouble after the fifth inning on the entire team
31:31
Speaker 1: is Gilbert. I was thinking that, yeah, and that doesn't
31:34
Speaker 1: We're not gonna risk Gilbert's starting pitching status in this rotation,
31:38
Speaker 1: but we might acknowledge, dude, you've only been good for
31:41
Speaker 1: five innings at a time. You might be the perfect
31:44
Speaker 1: guy to Piggy.
31:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we put Castillo in for six and seven.
31:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's that's a big change, and that might
31:51
Speaker 1: settle itself here in the next few weeks. Now we
31:53
Speaker 1: got Brash back, so if we can get Spire back,
31:56
Speaker 1: I mean, the bullpen would be pretty much set in
31:58
Speaker 1: Munno's Ferrara Brash as well Spire and Bizardo.
32:01
Speaker 2: Oh it sounds so good to say those names better Mary.
32:04
Speaker 1: It does. And the kitchen remodeling of the roster is
32:08
Speaker 1: nearly complete. Finally, and I do want to get this
32:11
Speaker 1: in l is for last. They probably are statistics. I
32:16
Speaker 1: haven't looked them up, but I am sure. I am sure.
32:20
Speaker 1: We are dead last in challenging.
32:23
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the worst.
32:26
Speaker 1: I mean, we are terrible at this.
32:28
Speaker 2: When Naylor Challenged lost the first challenge yesterday, well, not
32:32
Speaker 2: only was it a terrible time to challenge, but it
32:34
Speaker 2: was a terrible call to challenge, a terrible pitch to challenge.
32:38
Speaker 1: We are supposed to use this challenge system to help us,
32:44
Speaker 1: and I'm not watching every team in Major League Baseball
32:47
Speaker 1: as closely as I'm watching the Mariners, but it's hurting
32:49
Speaker 1: the team. The new challenge system has made us less effective, yeah,
32:54
Speaker 1: and winning baseball games because we're so bad at it.
32:58
Speaker 1: We challenge at the wrong times. We're not good at
33:01
Speaker 1: challenging it, like we're wrong more often than the umpires are.
33:05
Speaker 1: There was and I'm gonna lay some of it on
33:07
Speaker 1: Dan too, because there was a play two nights ago
33:09
Speaker 1: that nobody talked about where it looked very much like
33:13
Speaker 1: Chase my Draft was off the bag and we had
33:15
Speaker 1: the bases loaded in that inning, and nobody challenged it.
33:19
Speaker 1: Nobody even took the time to hold you know, the
33:22
Speaker 1: old Dan Wilson hold up. I want to look at it.
33:24
Speaker 1: Nobody even did that, and it looked to me like
33:27
Speaker 1: he was off the bag and we should have had
33:30
Speaker 1: bases loaded and nobody out in that situation, and imagine
33:34
Speaker 1: how much the game changes. Maybe you do get your
33:37
Speaker 1: three run lead for Luis Castillo, and we could have
33:40
Speaker 1: avoided all of that nonsense on Tuesday night. But we're
33:44
Speaker 1: so bad at challenging. We're terrible at it well.
33:47
Speaker 2: And I think there was even a pitch late in
33:48
Speaker 2: the game that was called a ball that was a
33:50
Speaker 2: strike that we didn't challenge that would have made a
33:52
Speaker 2: big difference in the game of them. Yeah, so yeah,
33:55
Speaker 2: we're not good, not good at all. And I would
33:57
Speaker 2: have thought, honestly, given how smart they is, that he
34:00
Speaker 2: would not be making some bad challenges. But this is
34:04
Speaker 2: that I can think of, just off the top of
34:05
Speaker 2: my head. That is Yet that was his second terrible
34:08
Speaker 2: challenge yeah.
34:09
Speaker 1: In terms of just challenging the umpire. When we don't
34:14
Speaker 1: challenge yeah, and when we don't challenge plays that should
34:20
Speaker 1: be challenged outside of ABS. I don't have a statistic
34:25
Speaker 1: to back this up, but I'm pretty short. When it
34:28
Speaker 1: comes to challenging in Major League Baseball. We're the worst.
34:32
Speaker 1: We are dead last.
34:33
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised, all right.
34:34
Speaker 1: Coming up next, speaking of Dan Wilson, can I do this?
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Speaker 1: Can I explain his pitch hitting philosophy in five minutes?
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36:03
Speaker 1: get into that. I don't have time to explain Dan
36:06
Speaker 1: Wilson's pinch hitting theory, not after a to Leila Breed.
36:09
Speaker 1: There's no chance. I know. I didn't have it. I
36:10
Speaker 1: didn't have it to begin with.
36:11
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, yeah, the theory, because can
36:15
Speaker 2: anybody really explain it in any given amount of time?
36:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so.
36:19
Speaker 2: No, I think it is gonna be one of life
36:21
Speaker 2: the stories.
36:22
Speaker 1: I don't think Dan can explain. No.
36:24
Speaker 2: No, that's why I say, can anyone because.
36:27
Speaker 1: It does seem to change all the time.
36:30
Speaker 2: Just when you think you're so annoyed that he won't
36:33
Speaker 2: make a change, or that he won't do things the
36:35
Speaker 2: way you do it, then he makes a change, but
36:38
Speaker 2: it's like too late. I don't know, I can't I
36:41
Speaker 2: don't I think.
36:42
Speaker 1: There's actual improvement being shown, and I know it doesn't
36:46
Speaker 1: feel that way. I know people were up in their arms.
36:48
Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, now, we're not gonna pinch it
36:51
Speaker 1: really against a right hander. You got to keep in
36:54
Speaker 1: mind that it's all the other manager's getting ready to
36:56
Speaker 1: make counter moves to your moves. Right, So when you
37:00
Speaker 1: start making pitching changes or excuse me, pinch hitting changes
37:04
Speaker 1: in the sixth inning, you do run the risk that
37:08
Speaker 1: you can get beat in the sixth and then you
37:10
Speaker 1: don't even have a counter move in the eighth or
37:13
Speaker 1: the ninth inning. So what you have to live with,
37:16
Speaker 1: what you have to what Dan has to come to
37:18
Speaker 1: grips with is do I want Rayley facing two left handers,
37:24
Speaker 1: or do I want Refsnyder or ref Snyder facing to
37:29
Speaker 1: right handers based on the counter moves, or do I
37:32
Speaker 1: at least want to win in the bargain at one
37:36
Speaker 1: of the points. If I can get you to burn
37:39
Speaker 1: your pitcher here, then that leaves me to I now
37:46
Speaker 1: have options in the eighth and ninth inning when it
37:48
Speaker 1: might matter more. So that's why I've been saying, if
37:52
Speaker 1: you're going to do it, there has to be something
37:54
Speaker 1: on the line. I don't want to see it to
37:57
Speaker 1: lead off an inning. I don't want to see it
37:59
Speaker 1: at the two outs and nobody on base. If you're
38:02
Speaker 1: going to do it early, then it has to be
38:06
Speaker 1: we can, we need, We have an opportunity for some
38:09
Speaker 1: real run production here. And I don't mind you making
38:12
Speaker 1: the switch, because no matter how people, how much angry
38:15
Speaker 1: people are at Rob Refschneider, the short sample size says
38:18
Speaker 1: he can't hit it all. The long sample size is
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Speaker 1: he kills left handers. The short sample size with Rayley
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Speaker 1: is he can't hit left handers, and the long sample
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Speaker 1: size of RAYLEI is he can't hit left handers. So
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Speaker 1: even though Rayley has been the far superior player this
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Speaker 1: year to ref Snider, it's still they're going to go
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Speaker 1: with ref Sneider is a better option against a left
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Speaker 1: handed pitcher when push comes to shove than Luke Rayley.
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Speaker 1: It's just when do you implement it? Are you really
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Speaker 1: going to implement it with two outs in the sixth
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Speaker 1: and nobody on base with a guy that's not hitting
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Speaker 1: lefties either? See, that's not what I'm going to do now.
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Speaker 1: If it's sixth inning, second and third, one out and
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Speaker 1: Rayley is a major strikeout threat against a good left
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Speaker 1: handed reliever or starter, whatever the case might be. I'm
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Speaker 1: probably gonna make the pitching change or the pinch hitting
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Speaker 1: change to ref Snyder because I think he gives me
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Speaker 1: the best opportunity to take advantage of the runs that
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Speaker 1: are right now on the base paths. And so that's
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Speaker 1: that to me, should be the philosophy. But what Dan's
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Speaker 1: been victim of as of late, he's getting beat at
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Speaker 1: his at the game and the sixth because I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: pinch it here, and then the counter move comes in
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Speaker 1: the sixth and takes away whatever advantage you might have.
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Speaker 1: Or even if they don't have a counter move, you're
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Speaker 1: not strengthening your position to score a run. You're just
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Speaker 1: trying to extend an inning right by bringing in a
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Speaker 1: guy that can't hit left handers.
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Speaker 2: Either, you're not looking at the bigger picture.
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Speaker 1: And then you're getting beat because now you don't even
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Speaker 1: have an eye option and the opponent has pitching options
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Speaker 1: in the eighth and ninth inning when that player comes
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Speaker 1: back up to the plate. So for me, it is
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about the sixth, you got it. It's
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Speaker 1: all about situation. All about scenario, and there is a
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Speaker 1: big gap in my opinion between what we saw on
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Speaker 1: Tuesday night. I'm pinch hitting, I'm not pinch hitting in
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Speaker 1: the sixth with nobody on. I agree that is progress
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Speaker 1: by Dan Wilson two outs, nobody on. I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: pinch hit here. What am I going to generate from
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Speaker 1: nothing here in the sixth inning? And then I'm also
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Speaker 1: going to ruin my chances to be productive in the
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Speaker 1: eighth and ninth. But in the seventh, when he had
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Speaker 1: a man on base and there was a good chance
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Speaker 1: you weren't even going to have that spot in the
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Speaker 1: order come back up again, why aren't you pinch hitting there?
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Speaker 1: So I think he was one for two on Tuesday night,
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Speaker 1: which is better than he's been in the past. So
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Speaker 1: I do think it's I think they are getting moving
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Speaker 1: in the right direction. But it's always going to look
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Speaker 1: bad when you've got a guy that can't hit and
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Speaker 1: Rob Refsnyder and that's your only impression of him as
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Speaker 1: a Mariner fan, you've not seen him hit at all.
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Speaker 1: But they're going to continue to side with the person.
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Speaker 1: Since nobody can hit left handers in the short sample,
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Speaker 1: They're going to continue to side with the guy that
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Speaker 1: at least has a history of doing it. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: just don't commit to it in the sixth inning, because
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Speaker 1: then you lose the better player in the ninth, and
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Speaker 1: you also lose your ability to have options in the
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Speaker 1: eighth the ninth innings when that scenario pops back up again.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know, that might even confuse it even more,
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