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*Bonus* Wu Tang: An American Saga · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Based on the formation of the most influential group of
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Speaker 1: hip hop history, Woutang Clan in American Saga is now
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Speaker 1: streaming only on hu What's Up as Angela yef from
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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club And if you know me, you know
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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this Woutang series coming to Hulu. Now,
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Speaker 1: let me give you some of my favorite Woutang memories.
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Speaker 1: I got my start working in the music industry interning
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Speaker 1: for Woutang Management when I was in college, and then
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Speaker 1: when I graduated, my first job was working for Woutang Corporation.
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Speaker 1: How I even got the job was crazy. So I
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Speaker 1: was coming from a job interview at Columbia Records, and
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Speaker 1: I was like, let me stop by the office and
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Speaker 1: say hi to the people I used to intern with. Well,
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Speaker 1: when I got there, it was the same day that
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Speaker 1: they were doing a huge concert in New York City
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Speaker 1: and things went left on the concert. The guys got
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Speaker 1: on stage and they started cursing out the host of
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Speaker 1: the radio station, and they actually ended up getting banned
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Speaker 1: from the station after that, And that band was on
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Speaker 1: for years. But it just told you how Woutang really
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Speaker 1: didn't give an f about anybody. They were just going
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Speaker 1: to do what they were doing. His risen in mathematics,
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Speaker 1: describing how the legendary logo came about mathematics. You created
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Speaker 1: the wootang logo. Yeah, yeah, that's a dope shot too. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of wood tank. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: the wilet. Rizzen came in here with gifts. How do
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Speaker 1: you come up with the logo? What was? How do
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Speaker 1: you think of that? One? Actual logo actually came just
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Speaker 1: one night. God called me, was like, yo, getting these
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Speaker 1: joints punting up, punting it up tomorrow. I need I
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Speaker 1: need a logo tomorrow. So I was like, worried tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: So I came home from work. I was like all right,
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Speaker 1: I sat on the floor on the living room floor,
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Speaker 1: just started came up, came up with what I came
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Speaker 1: up with. So I just remember, you know, we discussed
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Speaker 1: a few things, you know what I mean, that's editing
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Speaker 1: and all that. But yeah, and then who was the
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Speaker 1: first person you showed the rizzo? Yeah, okay, they came
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Speaker 1: up to the job. Him goes power and divine. I
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Speaker 1: remember all of them looking at it like bad because
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Speaker 1: I this is it and it was this right here
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Speaker 1: this w yeah, wow, all of the wootang merchant. As
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Speaker 1: we see, I can targeting everywhere. Like who gets the
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Speaker 1: money for that? That goes to the company. I mean
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Speaker 1: law man did joy. But how much I paid you
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Speaker 1: for that back then? M bucks something like that. Jesus,
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Speaker 1: Jesus ya at the time that was happening at the time.
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Speaker 1: That was half my rent money. And so I mean
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Speaker 1: he enjoyed it, but you know it was you know
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Speaker 1: it was it was a paid for a service, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's owned by the company.
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Speaker 1: I owned the company, so the majority of it goes
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Speaker 1: to the company, all the licenses and everything. So y'all
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Speaker 1: reach forever off a logo. Yeah, mathematics, you want to renegotiate.
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Speaker 1: So the Nike guy did the Nike logo for two
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars. Here's you guy talking about how
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Speaker 1: the Woo was formed? How did the WU ting form? Well,
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Speaker 1: that was that's a crazy situation because we always was
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Speaker 1: together some form of fashion. You know, when when when
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Speaker 1: Jesus with Genius and Rizzard comes to the hill, it
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Speaker 1: comes to the OO building. They come with six Steven
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Speaker 1: went in front of the OO building. Me me math uh,
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Speaker 1: you know dak Kappa used to live in the building,
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Speaker 1: so that was our little building and raised the right
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Speaker 1: the building the course right right right next to it.
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Speaker 1: But he had his gate, you know, him and Power
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Speaker 1: had the gate in the unto twenty five. So Ray
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Speaker 1: had to go when he was hustling, he had to
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Speaker 1: go all around, drop his little bombs off, and come
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Speaker 1: allay back whatever he was doing. I'm saying so, but
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Speaker 1: when they used to come to the hill, we used
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Speaker 1: to drop everything going back, drink ballence time with me,
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Speaker 1: Dirty Genius and Wristle. We're just going back and just
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Speaker 1: start versing and just chilling in. You know. It was
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Speaker 1: it was that was our brothers back there. You and
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Speaker 1: Math really had a very special relationship, and you focused
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Speaker 1: on that a lot. What I did like was you
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Speaker 1: talk about being a team player in the book, and
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Speaker 1: that's important for a lot of people, I think in
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Speaker 1: life in general. Because you knew, Okay, Math is not
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Speaker 1: going to be doing this street stuff. He has all
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Speaker 1: this talent and he's working really hard for it. So
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure he's good. But I'm gonna keep
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Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing because you felt like I have
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Speaker 1: to take care of my brother. Him and Dirty were
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Speaker 1: like out of here mentally when it comes to right
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Speaker 1: and rhymes and raps and on, and so I had
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Speaker 1: to had to protect him because he was stuf. He
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Speaker 1: was just that dude. And I always tell him like,
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Speaker 1: yo dog, you got something, especially when he had an
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Speaker 1: old lady. They used to scream out the window to him,
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Speaker 1: this is a note. This is a straight up story.
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Speaker 1: He'll tell you the same thing. It's old as you know.
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Speaker 1: She was an alcoholic whatever whatever, but she was a
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Speaker 1: good woman and she used to be out there within
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Speaker 1: him like sing for me, singer, to sing for me.
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Speaker 1: And she used to be telling that the Meth. She said,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be a star. I used to be laughing
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Speaker 1: at him, like yo dog. She used to because but
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Speaker 1: every time we used to be on the block, she
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Speaker 1: was old, but I'm wanted to sing for me, singer.
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Speaker 1: And then Meth start beating on his test, you know,
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Speaker 1: doing his little routine and stuff like that, and they
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Speaker 1: used to make her day, you know, and she was
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Speaker 1: and she was right. But even just hearing how Cream
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Speaker 1: took off for you guys, basically the performance and the
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Speaker 1: money falling from the ceiling and then you said, the
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Speaker 1: song went gold within hours of you guys performing cream
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and pride of that we was going to
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Speaker 1: be worried about he was gonna make it or not,
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Speaker 1: you know, man. And then we already had all the
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Speaker 1: videos in the can. So when you know, we draw
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Speaker 1: cream offs into your hall. Next day we got the
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Speaker 1: the record reports. He was like, what just went because
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Speaker 1: he was already like a hundred twenty thousand sales with
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Speaker 1: his head spots and all this stuff he put out.
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Speaker 1: He was already twentyth thousand sales. And soon as we
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Speaker 1: dropped that just jumped the fire hunting and just kept going.
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Speaker 1: That's amazing how an appearance on our send of your
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Speaker 1: hall affected. That was the platform back then to this day.
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Speaker 1: If you ever need, if he ever need, ain't anything.
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Speaker 1: So he just hit me, DM me getting contact with me. Bro.
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Speaker 1: You get anything, man, you get you know, from from
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Speaker 1: any brother man, anyone. Wou Tang, an American saga, is
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Speaker 1: inspired by the Wou Tang Manual and based on the
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Speaker 1: true story of the Wou Tang clan. Set in the
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Speaker 1: early nineties New York at the height of the crack
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Speaker 1: cocaine epidemic, The show tracks the Clan's formation, a vision
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Speaker 1: of Bobby Digg's aka The Rizzer, who unites the men
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Speaker 1: torn between music and crime, but eventually rise to become
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Speaker 1: the unlikeliest of American success stories. The show stars Ashton
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Speaker 1: Sanders as The Rizzer, as well as rappers Dave East
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Speaker 1: Player Met the Man, and Joey bad as Player and
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Speaker 1: Inspect the Deck. Woutang Klan and American Saga is now
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Speaker 1: streaming with new episodes every Wednesday only on Hulu. What's
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Speaker 1: Up as angela Ye from the Breakfast Club and if
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Speaker 1: you know me, you know I'm excited about this Boutang
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Speaker 1: series coming to Hulu. Now, let me give you some
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Speaker 1: of my favorite Woutang memories. I remember not knowing how
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Speaker 1: huge Boutang were as stars, just because I knew them
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Speaker 1: like my brothers. And one day metha Man asked me
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Speaker 1: to come at him to the bank when I was
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Speaker 1: in the office. Now he said we had to take
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Speaker 1: a cab, but the bank was only three blocks away,
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Speaker 1: so I said, why are we taking a cab? Why
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Speaker 1: don't we just walk there? So I remember walking down
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Speaker 1: the street with meThe Man, and it took us like
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Speaker 1: two hours just to get to the bank because everybody
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Speaker 1: was stopping him on the street because those guys were
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Speaker 1: already huge superstars and I didn't even realize it. Here's
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Speaker 1: another great moment from our conversation with the cast of
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Speaker 1: the Wu Tang and American Saga now screaming only on
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Speaker 1: Hulu Erica. Is this Doctor series you think nostalgia for
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Speaker 1: the older generation or lessons for the younger generation both.
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Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I think that narrative and
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Speaker 1: storytelling has always been hijacked by white men in studios
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Speaker 1: and told us our narrative in their history. And now
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Speaker 1: we have these street poets. We've grown up, and now
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Speaker 1: they are the heroes of our you know, older so
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Speaker 1: called you know, going into their forties and fifties and sixties.
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Speaker 1: And then they're also um real sort of badasses for
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Speaker 1: the young people because we placed them up and they'll go, wow,
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Speaker 1: it's like telling the story of Star Wars. You know,
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Speaker 1: you had to be there, except you didn't have to
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Speaker 1: because it just keeps going on and on and on.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's actually beautiful. It's like a full circle.
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Speaker 1: But I the best thing about is that shows that
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Speaker 1: the narrative at least of this century will be told
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Speaker 1: by people of color. And um, I'm glad that Riza
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Speaker 1: is so good in communicating his story. We talked last
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Speaker 1: time we were here about our writing. You know, the
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Speaker 1: people who can write there there, they'll be eternal, you know.
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Speaker 1: And and to me to write the stories of so
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Speaker 1: called American saga and be the new Waltons, that's power.
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Speaker 1: What do you think Aston, what's the lesson of the
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Speaker 1: younger generation can learn from this story of of passionate
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Speaker 1: story of we kind of see the cultivation of you know,
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Speaker 1: if you have a dream, you know, sticking with that,
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Speaker 1: you know, like no matter what your circumstances are, you know,
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Speaker 1: like living through them or not letting your circumstances like
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Speaker 1: kind of define what the outcome is going to be.
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Speaker 1: And so I think you just cut through this character
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Speaker 1: of Bobby. We watch all of that within the character.
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Speaker 1: It's so specific to his life and his story. But
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Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel like it's something that
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Speaker 1: everybody's going to be able to be inspired by outside
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Speaker 1: of like the music. So I think that's going to
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Speaker 1: be though. Erica said something that made me think earlier
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Speaker 1: talking about like how they're making the movies of all
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Speaker 1: of our heroes that grew up in the nineties. Like
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Speaker 1: you think that's a good thing a bad thing, because
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Speaker 1: it's usually all celebrities are, it's all artists. You know,
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Speaker 1: we grew up on autobiography of malcaelm X and like
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Speaker 1: things that have like a real socially redeemed value. Not
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Speaker 1: saying that the Raptors didn't. But you think that's a
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Speaker 1: good thing a bad thing, that these are heroes. But
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Speaker 1: I think we valorize the things that that make us feel.
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Speaker 1: And frankly, especially in that time, music became a source
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Speaker 1: of not only you know, of empowerment, but also how
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Speaker 1: we expressed our rage and our frustration. So if you
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Speaker 1: don't and if everybody shooting at each other, the thing
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Speaker 1: that you you might talk about um or remember, or
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Speaker 1: want to at least historically place your life in is
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Speaker 1: are these people who you may not know, but they
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Speaker 1: are telling the story of your real life. And frankly,
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Speaker 1: I mean, if we look at what reporting and journally
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Speaker 1: you talk about journalism today, they weren't. I mean it
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Speaker 1: was it was bizarre. They were sort of telling us
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Speaker 1: who who they thought we were, and who they thought
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Speaker 1: we were were evil and drugged out and all this stuff.
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Speaker 1: But then you look back and you see, I love
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Speaker 1: the character Sadiq Thoughtersho plays and he does it so well.
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Speaker 1: He plays Dennis there he was taking care of two
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Speaker 1: of his brothers who where I had multiple corrosive yeahs
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Speaker 1: a child. He's reframing the narrative, and so that's why
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Speaker 1: I think it's really good to sort of come back.
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Speaker 1: Sure it would be great to talk about other people
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Speaker 1: who are there, but you know, that's how it is.
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Speaker 1: The media stole everything, and one thing it stole was
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Speaker 1: the fact that it stopped talking about people like James
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Speaker 1: Baldwin and it sort of gave us a narrative that
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Speaker 1: was only focused on people who were in the streets,
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Speaker 1: because that's how it happens, even with all gangsters, the
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Speaker 1: gangster movies, the mafia. So that's what we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: That's what you like this flick so well because you
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Speaker 1: see all sides. You know, I'm a huge utang fan,
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Speaker 1: so I only see the side of the MPVs and
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Speaker 1: the things in the streets. That's what I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: But nah, it's like I gravitated to the five percent, right,
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Speaker 1: So you know, there's so many different things that people
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Speaker 1: gravitate to, you know. But you see the other side.
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Speaker 1: You see ghosts taking care of his brothers, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, and wipe and his brother's lip. So
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Speaker 1: you see that sensitive side again that was so and so.
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Speaker 1: But then you see ray on this side. So you
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Speaker 1: get to see all those sides. That's what I love
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Speaker 1: about it. Well, and also you think like you said
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Speaker 1: about you know, you know, you know Malcolm X and
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Speaker 1: the great heroes that inspired us right at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day though then you know that was the
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Speaker 1: sixties generation that inspired us who become the nineties generations? Right,
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Speaker 1: We grew up in the seventy eighties and then our
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Speaker 1: voice comes out in the nineties. So it's it's actually,
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Speaker 1: I think proper that the nineties is now the the
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Speaker 1: with the lenses at because no, there's there are a
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Speaker 1: lot of heroes that brought that message forward, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, that bought the audiology for that bought
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Speaker 1: the movement. You know, you think about, umlet's just talk
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Speaker 1: about you know, you look at Sonny Carson, right, remember,
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Speaker 1: and then then he has his son, uh, the overseer
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Speaker 1: right right, and then you know we come into the
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Speaker 1: then we get the public enemy coming, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. It's like these people become the voices that
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Speaker 1: started from there. So I think it's really positive and
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Speaker 1: all reality that the that the that the lens is
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Speaker 1: being turned onto the nineties. Now we of course we
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Speaker 1: can find more than just the hip hop source of it, right, um.
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Speaker 1: And and the beauty of it is that these heroes
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Speaker 1: or these people are not just linear. They're multi facet
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When University had did the
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Speaker 1: movie American Gangster, I was proud for the fact of this.
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Speaker 1: I just want to say this out loud. And I
12:33
Speaker 1: remember thinking one of the executives, he's like, I was like, yo,
12:37
Speaker 1: you came to New York City spent over one hundred
12:39
Speaker 1: million dollars, you know what I mean in about three months.
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Speaker 1: All the Harlem silvias was full, was being sold out,
12:47
Speaker 1: all the food sold out, Brooklyn everything, everybody making money,
12:51
Speaker 1: ice cream trucks. Coun't keep ice scream on the trucks, right,
12:53
Speaker 1: because all this money has come to the city and
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Speaker 1: they were telling the story of a black man, even
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Speaker 1: though he was a drug dealer, it still was this
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Speaker 1: money is being spent on the story of the black
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Speaker 1: Man and now here we are on the ever where
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Speaker 1: it'll be spent on maybe a hip hop artist. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, something to that nature that's that's a different
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Speaker 1: look at it, you know, and even the story that
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Speaker 1: I know, I'm here to promote our show, but when
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Speaker 1: I watched the Ava show, Um, yeah, it's like, yo,
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Speaker 1: that's a lot of money being spent on exposing a
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Speaker 1: truth that really equipped with our city, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean? So I think I think you know these
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Speaker 1: writers and what we act right now, as they say
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Speaker 1: in Hollywood, I think that our lens is pointed at
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Speaker 1: the right direction and hopefully a lot more these stories
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Speaker 1: to get out. Now, what's the relationship with what? I know?
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Speaker 1: It was rocky at times, but it seemed like this
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Speaker 1: could have got everybody together because it was so many
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Speaker 1: different stories and reliving the nineties and reliving when y'all
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Speaker 1: were younger on that ground, what's the relationship now with everybody?
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Speaker 1: I mean, the relationship is is peace. You know, we know,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a brotherhood. So it's always you know,
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Speaker 1: like you said, the up and down. Um, I think
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Speaker 1: more so than ever though, I think you know, at
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Speaker 1: this such mature age now, everybody is just letting everybody
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Speaker 1: live there, live there, Lane, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: So I'm a i'men. I've been making I'm been in
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Speaker 1: Hollywood for about thirteen years now. I mean, I right movies, yo,
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Speaker 1: direct movies. That's what I do. It's like that's my
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Speaker 1: craft and so and so that's my job to tell
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Speaker 1: that part of the story, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Where where other brothers could be into, you know, whether
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Speaker 1: they're making songs or still. You know, Jill did this
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Speaker 1: this whole science show, but he loves science and mathematics,
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Speaker 1: and he goes to the schools and he older colleges
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Speaker 1: and do speeches. And you go up there and you
14:41
Speaker 1: see Jill there telling us about they're trying to turn
14:43
Speaker 1: light into liquid. Right, you're seeing this liquid science. Think
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Speaker 1: he does yo yo yo. It's it's like twelve episodes
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Speaker 1: on science hosted about the JUSTI on that Flix and
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Speaker 1: my son watched it and he was picking up wisdom
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Speaker 1: because he because he vold with it. So anyway, but
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Speaker 1: let me pass the mic. Woutang and American Saga is
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Speaker 1: inspired by the Woutang manual, set in early nineties New
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Speaker 1: York and the height of the crack cocaine epidemic to
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Speaker 1: show tracks to clans Formation, a vision of Bobby digs
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Speaker 1: Ak eight to Rizzo, who unice the men tone between
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Speaker 1: music and crime, but eventually rods to become the unlikeliest
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Speaker 1: of American success stories. The Wu Tang Clan has sold
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Speaker 1: forty million albums worldwide, and the group is often held
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Speaker 1: as one of the most influential groups in the history
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Speaker 1: of hip hop, with a unique sound and distinct image.
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Speaker 1: Its producers include members of the Wu Tang Clan, Rizzle
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Speaker 1: and Mefi Man. Wou Tang and American Saga is now
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Speaker 1: Screaming with new episodes every Wednesday only on Hulu. What's
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Speaker 1: Up is angela Ye from the Breakfast Club And if
15:40
Speaker 1: you know me, you know I'm excited about this Woutang
15:42
Speaker 1: series coming to Hulu. Now, let me give you some
15:45
Speaker 1: of my favorite Wou Tang memories. What I learned the
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Speaker 1: most from working for Wu Tang was just how important
15:49
Speaker 1: it is to have your business together. I remember on
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Speaker 1: the back of my business card they were like ten
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Speaker 1: different businesses listed. So it wasn't just Woutang the group.
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Speaker 1: It was Raised Sharp Records, Liquid Sort into Tayman thirty six,
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Speaker 1: Chambers Studio, method Man Entertainment, Inspected Deck Entertainment, just a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of different companies. They definitely spread out, And
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Speaker 1: what I really like about it was it's not having
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Speaker 1: all your eggs in one basket. Wu Tang had their
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Speaker 1: artists signed to all the different labels, so it was
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Speaker 1: a great opportunity for them to spread out and get
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Speaker 1: that money. There's another great moment from our conversation with
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Speaker 1: the cast of the Wu Tang and American Saga now
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Speaker 1: screaming only on Hulu. There was no social media back then,
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Speaker 1: no no internet service like that. Back then, we didn't
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Speaker 1: have access to that, very little access to cell phones.
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Speaker 1: So when you see it, I lived it, but I
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Speaker 1: didn't live that part of it. So like when I'm
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Speaker 1: watching it, because we got to see the first episode,
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting in and I thought ray Kuon and ghost
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Speaker 1: Face with breast friends from That's how I looked at them.
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Speaker 1: But then when you watch and you'd be like, it
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Speaker 1: really almost killed each other, I'm like, that's crazy. How
16:52
Speaker 1: did you I didn'tee the rest of the second second season,
16:56
Speaker 1: but second episode, how did you get them cool? Well?
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Speaker 1: And this and this is real yeah, well in all reality, right,
17:02
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, Stapleton and park Kill just had this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the beef was was was from God's older
17:12
Speaker 1: than me and and and yet you know, Staten Island
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Speaker 1: is still uh isolated island. One thing that Staton Alan did,
17:24
Speaker 1: I would say is that when we left Staten Island,
17:26
Speaker 1: right and we go to Brooklyn or we go to
17:29
Speaker 1: Sensations in Jersey, we did fight together. If you go
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Speaker 1: to the Square and you got some staton Alans in there,
17:37
Speaker 1: even though we're from all different hoods, we always fought
17:40
Speaker 1: together regardless. But then back on the Rock, it's like, yeah,
17:43
Speaker 1: it's all any enemies, you know what I mean. So,
17:46
Speaker 1: but more importantly, you know, there was a common denominator,
17:50
Speaker 1: you know what I mean between me and the Woo
17:53
Speaker 1: brothers and that common denominator. Um, it's something that helped
17:57
Speaker 1: meilt that energy, you know what I mean. Um, And
18:00
Speaker 1: you know, you know, just you know, not to give spoilers,
18:03
Speaker 1: but as you go through the show, you'll see some
18:06
Speaker 1: of that common denominator evolved and answer some of the
18:09
Speaker 1: questions like you know, because that's one of the challenges
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Speaker 1: that you know that Aston has to face his Bobby.
18:15
Speaker 1: You know, my favorite you know, one of my favorite
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Speaker 1: scenes is in the episode two which comes up next
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Speaker 1: when the when these confronted by shot. The SHOT's not
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Speaker 1: really fine, yeah right hey, and then he's he's just like, yo, Bobby,
18:29
Speaker 1: where's my gun? Son? Like yo, you let that stapid
18:32
Speaker 1: tis nigga eat my food like you know, And and
18:36
Speaker 1: and that kind of energy of of of of friendship
18:40
Speaker 1: and then being pulled between you know, what's going on
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Speaker 1: with your friends and what's going on with your brother
18:45
Speaker 1: or what's going on in the streets. That dynamic, I mean,
18:48
Speaker 1: that dynamic was strong then, but even that dynamic finds
18:52
Speaker 1: itself and the equation these days, yeah, because it could
18:55
Speaker 1: be business or personal. Yeah, and you never know, I like,
19:00
Speaker 1: you know sometimes you know, you know how that you
19:01
Speaker 1: may come with the one thing about you know about
19:04
Speaker 1: coming from the hood or come from I may have
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Speaker 1: a guy with me that's tight with me, but he
19:09
Speaker 1: ain't tight with you, you know what I mean? Now
19:12
Speaker 1: you see him, it's like, yo, but man, you tight.
19:15
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I might not even know
19:16
Speaker 1: that y'all signed two years ago my man's pockets, you
19:20
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So all that kind of energy exists,
19:22
Speaker 1: and you know the show with the show that though
19:25
Speaker 1: the show took a lot of time and how to
19:28
Speaker 1: squeeze an egg, you know, like Ever was explaining. You
19:31
Speaker 1: know when you go to my uh from outside of
19:34
Speaker 1: the family and talking, you know, you only see him
19:36
Speaker 1: four of the children. You can't put on laming children
19:38
Speaker 1: in the TV show that the Waltons, I know, right,
19:43
Speaker 1: but you know so so so we so you got
19:45
Speaker 1: to condense, condense it and you gotta dramatize it the
19:48
Speaker 1: way to make it all fit within a construct. How
19:51
Speaker 1: did the other seven siblings feel about that? Though I
19:54
Speaker 1: ain't no, this is this is yo. Everybody knows that
19:57
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is art yo, and so
20:00
Speaker 1: nobody well nobody didn't openly say nothing. They didn't see
20:04
Speaker 1: the show yet either, but but they'll give you an example.
20:07
Speaker 1: My brother Chamber is my oldest brother, right, his government
20:11
Speaker 1: name is Randy um and so um. But I gave
20:17
Speaker 1: that name to my younger brother and the show, you
20:20
Speaker 1: know what I mean, So, my my four younger brothers um,
20:25
Speaker 1: I didn't use their names. I just used my older
20:27
Speaker 1: brother and then my and then Sophie, who's my older sister.
20:32
Speaker 1: But in the show, my sister is Shari, my younger sister,
20:37
Speaker 1: and so when I explained everything to my writer's room,
20:40
Speaker 1: we was able to take both of their personalities emerged
20:45
Speaker 1: right Solda, so that so the energy of that household
20:48
Speaker 1: remains the same, you know, Sophie being the one who
20:52
Speaker 1: has to take care of the kids and then Shari
20:55
Speaker 1: being a younger one trying to find ourselves. And then
20:57
Speaker 1: we emerged those two into one person and gave our
21:01
Speaker 1: actress a lot to play with. It's a hard doing
21:04
Speaker 1: period pieces now because listen, man, nineties hip hop eighties
21:08
Speaker 1: was a totally different ball game. You know what I'm saying.
21:10
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things us as many didn't know.
21:13
Speaker 1: You unlearned a lot of the BS behavior. So do
21:15
Speaker 1: you do you leave certain things out to avoid backlash
21:17
Speaker 1: now or do you have to tell how it really was? No?
21:20
Speaker 1: I think, I think. I think. You know, when you
21:22
Speaker 1: watch the actors portrayed in nineties and they get a
21:25
Speaker 1: chance to know, to remind us of whether we were
21:29
Speaker 1: stupid or whether we were smart, you know. No, I
21:32
Speaker 1: love the scene with Ashton he goes um and many look,
21:36
Speaker 1: many producers and hip hoppers in New York City, right,
21:40
Speaker 1: wanted those drum machines, one of those turntables. Right. And
21:44
Speaker 1: episode one starsh off with our character wanting to get
21:48
Speaker 1: that SP twelve hundred For those who don't know what
21:50
Speaker 1: ESP twelve hundred is, the was the sampler that Easymo
21:52
Speaker 1: b had um famire. Everybody used this to make hip hop.
21:57
Speaker 1: And and how many people growing up in New York
22:01
Speaker 1: wanting to get that when that came out, right, and
22:04
Speaker 1: then we watch him trying to get it now and
22:07
Speaker 1: all it does is sample twelve seconds, right, you know
22:11
Speaker 1: for two thousan dollars. Now you can sample ten years
22:15
Speaker 1: on your computer. Yo. Basically you know what I mean?
22:18
Speaker 1: And so you know and so and so you know
22:21
Speaker 1: the show like the ambition and the struggle of what
22:25
Speaker 1: that was the show that uh you know, it's he
22:28
Speaker 1: going to the parks and Manhattan. Remember the chess players
22:30
Speaker 1: used to be down by the World Trade Center. We
22:32
Speaker 1: see that in the show. But at the same time,
22:34
Speaker 1: the World Trade Center, the Twin Towers and still standing.
22:38
Speaker 1: You got kids who they can't even fantom with the
22:41
Speaker 1: Twin Towers, right, they couldn't fantom that, Yo. That's an
22:43
Speaker 1: area that people were sitting there playing chessing and and
22:47
Speaker 1: and and the Israelites and the guards is out building,
22:50
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's a scene where
22:52
Speaker 1: he's sitting there listening and the guards are talking about, Yo,
22:55
Speaker 1: you got knowledge yourself and all that. I mean, that's real,
22:57
Speaker 1: that's what that's real. It's real. Where did you learn? Like?
23:00
Speaker 1: Where did you learn that? Because when I seen that,
23:01
Speaker 1: I know that you were chests, But I'm like, but
23:03
Speaker 1: where did you learn that? Coming out of stating anal
23:05
Speaker 1: that's something that that you would taught or just going
23:07
Speaker 1: to the to the city all the time I was taught.
23:11
Speaker 1: I was blessed with a girl that took my virginity
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Speaker 1: and taught me chess man. She hit me with a
23:21
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