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- 0:01Discretion is advised. This is treated murder. Murderers, rapists, and kidnappers
- 0:18often choose to shift blame away from themselves, pointing the finger at some kind
- 0:23of traumatic event that changed the course of their lives and made them turn towards
- 0:27crime. Detectives and criminal psychologists also examined the upbringing and history of killers,
- 0:33searching for anything that might have acted as a turning point molestation, abandonment,
- 0:40violence. But for one serial killer, his turning point was a little more
- 0:45unusual, the childhood kidnapping of his own younger brother. Carrie Stainer had three
- 0:52sisters but only one brother, Stephen, who was four years younger than Carrie.
- 0:58When Stephen was seven years old, he disappeared. Although his family had
- 1:03no idea what happened to him, Stephen was being held captive less than forty
- 1:07miles away, kept in the house of the man who abducted him, a
- 1:11pedophile by the name of Kenneth Parnell. By the time seven years had passed,
- 1:15the chances of Stephen still being alive were slim to none. Even before
- 1:22Stephen went missing, Carrie had not been like the other kids. He'd always
- 1:26been anxious, developing trichotillomania as a toddler, which made him pull out his
- 1:32own hair. Despite medication, he continued to compulsively pluck the hair from his
- 1:37scalp, causing bald spots that the other kids made fun of him for later.
- 1:42He reported having dark sexual fantasies from a very young age, imagining kidnapping,
- 1:49raping, and killing women, even before his own brother became the victim
- 1:53of the same kind of criminal. Stephen's abduction became the center of Carrie's teenage
- 1:59years. While his parents grieved, Stephen, their older son felt neglected and
- 2:04pushed aside. He was shockingly intelligent and creative, but none of his academic
- 2:08pursuits satisfied him. His dark fantasies got stronger and stronger in his teenage years,
- 2:15and he eventually acted on them by exposing his genitals to a friend of
- 2:20his sisters. Then, essentially a miracle took place. Stephen Steiner, who
- 2:25was now a teenager, managed to escape captivity alongside Timothy White, another kidnapped
- 2:31boy. He was an instant celebrity, even featuring in a TV series called
- 2:37I Know My First Name Is Stephen. Carrie felt like his family's forgotten child,
- 2:43the son that they didn't pay attention to. After his graduation, Carrie
- 2:46had gotten a job working at a glass company. He later said that while
- 2:51he was at work installing windows, he constantly fantasized about killing all of his
- 2:55co workers by crashing a truck into his workplace and then lighting it on fire.
- 3:00During this time, tragedy struck the Stainer family again. After surviving seven
- 3:07years of sexual abuse in captivity, Stephen was in a fatal motorcycle crash.
- 3:12He'd only lived for ten years after his escape. In his early thirties,
- 3:16Carry tried to kill himself with carbon monoxide poisoning, but his suicide attempt failed.
- 3:23Four years later, he spent time in a mental health facility after having
- 3:27a breakdown, but after his symptoms got better, he was discharged. Carrie
- 3:31tried to self medicate, using drugs to distract himself. All they did was
- 3:37make him more and more unstable. In nineteen ninety seven, Carrie started work
- 3:43as a general handyman at the Cedar Lodge motel, close to one of the
- 3:46entrances to Yosemite National Park. The lodge soon became a hunting ground full of
- 3:53the kind of prey that he'd always fantasized about catching. Over a six month
- 3:58period in nineteen nine, four people connected to the motel were violently killed.
- 4:04In February nineteen ninety nine, Carol Yvonne Sunned, her fifteen year old daughter
- 4:10Julie Sunned, and a sixteen year old exchange student, Sylvina Paloso, were
- 4:15staying at Cedar Lodge and went missing. Two of the bodies, Carol's and
- 4:19Sylvina's, were found almost a month later, crammed into the trunk of Carol's
- 4:24rental car. The car had been set on fire, and Carol and Sylvina's
- 4:29charred remains needed to be identified with dental records. Even with a degree of
- 4:34damage the fired caused to the bodies. The autopsy found that Sylvina had been
- 4:39raped while Carol had been strangled. Both victims had also been shot. One
- 4:45week after the two bodies were located, somebody sent a note to the local
- 4:48police, reading quote, we had fun with this one, with a sketch
- 4:54of a map drawn underneath. At the location indicated by the map, police
- 4:59found jewe's body. She had been sexually assaulted before having her throat cut.
- 5:04Police carried out interviews of all the employees at the motel, but they
- 5:09didn't view Carrie as a suspect. Four months later, a headless body was
- 5:14found in the same area and later identified as twenty six year old Joey Ruth
- 5:18Armstrong, a naturalist who worked for the Yosemite Institute. Unlike the previous three
- 5:24victims, Joey had only been killed the previous day, making it easier for
- 5:29investigators to follow the trail of the killer. Eyewitnesses had seen Carrie's vehicle parked
- 5:34outside Joey's cabin the day before her body was found, but he was nowhere
- 5:39to be seen. The FBI was involved and track carried to a nudest resort
- 5:44where he was staying and rested him on suspicion of murder. During questioning,
- 5:48Carrie made an unusual choice. He immediately confessed to killing Joey, but told
- 5:55investigators that he had also murdered Carol, Julie and Sylphe and he had been
- 6:00the one to send the map of where Julie's body could be found. Now
- 6:03investigators had a man in custody who had openly admitted to four violent crimes.
- 6:09It would be highly unusual for a man this violence and sadistic to only have
- 6:14started killing in his late thirties, and detectives began to examine other cases that
- 6:19Carrie could have been involved in when he was younger. Once they started looking,
- 6:24the clues were everywhere. At nineteen eighty one, a young woman named
- 6:28Patricia Dahlstrom had testified against a cult leader, Donald Gibson, who had sexually
- 6:33assaulted her. Donald was an acquaintance of Carrie. Carrie even went to his
- 6:39trial to support the man. Two years later, Patricia went missing in Yosemite
- 6:44National Park and her skeletal remains were found the following year. Had Carrie murdered
- 6:48Patricia as revenge for testifying against his friend? It definitely looks that way.
- 6:55Another cold case, at nineteen ninety four, two severed hands were found in
- 6:59the Serra Nevada Foothills, followed by a decapitated handless body two months later.
- 7:05The following year, the remains were positively identified as a twenty four year old
- 7:10woman named Sherlyn Murphy. Her killer was never identified, and to this day,
- 7:15despite extensive searching, her missing head has not been found. Was it
- 7:19possible that Carrie also murdered male victims. Investigators considered the possibility that he had
- 7:26been also responsible for the disappearance of twenty year old Michael Madden, who had
- 7:30gone missing on his way to California's Stanislos National Forest. Yosemite National Park,
- 7:36where Carrie seemed to commit all of his crimes, was only seventy five miles
- 7:41away from there. There was also one potential victim who was closer to home,
- 7:46Carrie's uncle, Jesse Stainer, who had been shot to death in nineteen
- 7:49ninety. The murder weapon was Jesse's own gun, and the killer was never
- 7:55found. Later, Carrie claimed that his uncle had molested him when he was
- 7:59a little boy. Although he was never found guilty of killing his uncle,
- 8:03he had a connection with the victim as well as a possible motive for killing
- 8:07him. Because Joey Armstrong had been killed on federal land, Carrie went to
- 8:13trial in federal court. Desperate to avoid a death sentence, he decided to
- 8:16plead guilty to all the charges against him, a hefty list of first degree
- 8:22murder, kidnapping, and aggravated sexual abuse that had resulted in death. Despite
- 8:28seemingly completely unbothered even proud during his confession, he showed a completely different reaction
- 8:35during his sentencing in front of the court, Carrie began sobbing, saying,
- 8:41quote, I wish I could tell you why I did such a thing,
- 8:43but I don't even know myself. I'm so sorry. I wish there was
- 8:48a reason, but there isn't. It's senseless. Carry avoided a death sentence,
- 8:54instead being sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. In
- 8:58state court. Facing charges for another three murders, Carrie changed his tactic and
- 9:03pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. While a doctor testified that Carrie had
- 9:09autism, OCD and abnormal sexual desires, as well as a potential history of
- 9:16sexual abuse, Carrie was found to be sane. He was found guilty a
- 9:20first degree murder of all three victims, as well as the kidnapping of one
- 9:26victim he'd remove from the scene. For these charges, Carrie was sentenced to
- 9:31death in two thousand and two. Since then, Carrie has been imprisoned on
- 9:35death row at California's San Quentin State Prison, but nobody has been executed in
- 9:39California since two thousand and six. The Stainer family lost their two boys,
- 9:45one a victim and one a perpetrator. Somehow, Carrie lived through the experience
- 9:50of his brother being abducted by a monster and then grew up to be a
- 9:54monster himself. That's ten Minute Murder for today, brief and binge able true
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