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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Self Scouting · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 3: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 1: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. We are chomping at the bit
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  Speaker 4: for the Panthers to get back to action this weekend.
• 0:34
  Speaker 4: You know we're going to be talking about this Eagle
• 0:36
  Speaker 4: game throughout the week, and you know that there's always
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  Speaker 4: going to be college football chatter on this radio show,
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  Speaker 4: including a conversation, Bone, later on about the ACC's chances
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  Speaker 4: of two playoff teams. Not sure people nationally think they're
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  Speaker 4: very good chances. But Wake has the second highest odds bone,
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  Speaker 4: according to FPI and the ACC, to make the playoff
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  Speaker 4: behind Miami. It's a beautiful world that Deke fans are
• 1:01
  Speaker 4: living in right now. And we got to talk some
• 1:03
  Speaker 4: Wake football. But let's not forget about Duke just because
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  Speaker 4: of the loss, Boney. They've got this game against Bill
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  Speaker 4: Belichick in the heels this week. Let's talk some Wake
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  Speaker 4: and Duke football with a man that covers both of
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  Speaker 4: those teams for on three sports. He is Connor O'Neill,
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  Speaker 4: who joins us here on the Mac and Bone show
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  Speaker 4: in the Queen City.
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  Speaker 2: Connor, how you been, man? What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. I've got two good football teams to cover
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  Speaker 1: and basketball is knocking on the door. So It's a
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  Speaker 1: busy time.
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  Speaker 2: Heck yeah, it is, man. Heck yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 4: Let's, we got to start with the Deacs. This is
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  Speaker 4: just such a fun team. Do you, like, do you
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  Speaker 4: feel like there's a, is there a chance of them
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  Speaker 4: making the playoffs? Is there, is there only chance to
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  Speaker 4: literally go win the ACC, get a rematch with Miami
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  Speaker 4: and beat them? Like, what do you think about that
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  Speaker 4: aspect of this Deacs team?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my brain is split in two ways. And the
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  Speaker 1: dreamer part of me wants to say, if this is,
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  Speaker 1: An 11-1 team that goes and loses to Miami and Charlotte,
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  Speaker 1: plays Miami tight. They played them, gave them all they
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  Speaker 1: could handle. I think that's Miami's closest game so far
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  Speaker 1: this year. 11-2 with two losses to Miami, I think,
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  Speaker 1: would get in. But the realist in me says 11-2
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  Speaker 1: ACC or a 9-3 SEC team that has a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of these ranked wins that are boosted by their own
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  Speaker 1: metrics and the ESPN, the machinery that will boost them
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  Speaker 1: over the ACC teams that everybody thinks suck. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, guys.
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  Speaker 5: They're really going to need Louisville to be Louisville for
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  Speaker 5: the majority of the season so that win looks better
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  Speaker 5: and better. And SMU at the end for Wake, they're
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  Speaker 5: going to need them to be ranked and be like SMU,
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  Speaker 5: beat them to really boost that resume, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Can they beat SMU? SMU beats Notre Dame? That would help. Although,
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  Speaker 4: now I think we're dreaming, though, Connor.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, now we're dreaming.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This is where I hit you with the stringer bell
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  Speaker 1: at some point. Like, we don't got to dream no more, man.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, Gio Lopez finds himself in a much more comfortable
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  Speaker 5: offense that he's used to than he had last year
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  Speaker 5: with the heels. But what is it about this offense,
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  Speaker 5: this style, what makes Gio Lopez so good in this system?
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  Speaker 1: I think you hit the nail on the head. First
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  Speaker 1: and foremost, it's comfort. I mean, he just– he was–
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  Speaker 1: a shell of the quarterback that he was at South
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  Speaker 1: Alabama last year. He was a shell of the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: that he's been this year, last year. Anybody that judges
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  Speaker 1: Geo based on last year is kind of missing the
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  Speaker 1: tree for the– what's the phrasing I'm looking for? Missing
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  Speaker 1: the forest for the tree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, something with the forest and tree. I get all
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  Speaker 2: those wrong here.
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  Speaker 1: You got me. But, man, they've got other playmakers. Like
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  Speaker 1: Carlos Hernandez might be an NFL receiver. He's able to
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  Speaker 1: get open and avoid contact and his elusiveness. Jack Foley
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  Speaker 1: is only a sophomore, so I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: can project him to the NFL yet, but he's a
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  Speaker 1: big physical guy who's had 200-yard games already this year,
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  Speaker 1: and one of them was against Miami. Their offensive line
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  Speaker 1: has a bunch of kind of FCS and misfit toys,
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  Speaker 1: and they've got a second-year guy that barely played last
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  Speaker 1: year starting at right tackle. They've got some pieces that
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  Speaker 1: just fit together really well, and then You know, we
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  Speaker 1: get so obsessed with talking about how many resources or
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  Speaker 1: how few resources schools have. And I get that that's
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  Speaker 1: become such a big part of college sports these days.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not the whole picture. It's not the whole pie.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a piece of the pie. You still have
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  Speaker 1: to coach guys and you still have to develop them.
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  Speaker 1: And Wake is doing a great job of those things,
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  Speaker 1: even coaching. wherever their resources rank them in the ACC.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt.
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  Speaker 4: As state fans, if having more resources matters. It did
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  Speaker 4: not on Saturday. We're talking to Connor O'Neill on 3 Sports.
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  Speaker 4: He covers Wake. He covers Duke as well. We're going
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  Speaker 4: to get to the Blue Devils in a second. Last
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  Speaker 4: question I'm answering, and this is a total buzzkill question.
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  Speaker 4: I understand it. but I just feel like I got
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  Speaker 4: to ask you. Jake Dickert's amazing. I love this dude.
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  Speaker 4: I love his energy. I love what he's doing for
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  Speaker 4: this Deke program, but it's hard not to think, man,
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  Speaker 4: someone's going to want to gobble him up fast. How
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  Speaker 4: much do you fear from a Wake standpoint that this
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  Speaker 4: will be his last year in Winston-Salem?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to record myself talking about this because
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  Speaker 1: of how many times I get asked it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just, I, again, my brain is split in two ways. I,
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  Speaker 1: I want wake fans to enjoy this season. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want them to sit there and think that a win
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  Speaker 1: is a good thing because it's one step closer to
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  Speaker 1: their coach being out the door.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I also, the, the realist in me is like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Jake is a Midwest guy who coached in the Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 1: He had never lived in the South before he came
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  Speaker 1: to wake forest. It, If he has won nine games
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  Speaker 1: in his first season at Wake, he might win eight
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  Speaker 1: or nine, and that feels like a little bit on
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  Speaker 1: the conservative side for the rest of this season. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a matter of will he go somewhere that meets
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  Speaker 1: his eye. It's a matter of will he have the
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  Speaker 1: right job offer for him. He will have his pick
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  Speaker 1: of suitors if he is something like 20-8 at the
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  Speaker 1: end of two seasons at Wake Forest.
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  Speaker 5: Two of the most sought-after coaches might be the coaches
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  Speaker 5: that you cover in Jake Dickard of Wake and Manny
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  Speaker 5: Diaz from Duke. Now, not about Manny's future, but the
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  Speaker 5: other day, how disappointing was that loss for Duke to
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  Speaker 5: Georgia Tech? And, Connor, why, despite Duke's program being so
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  Speaker 5: much better than it used to be the last decade
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  Speaker 5: or so, why do they struggle so much with Georgia Tech?
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  Speaker 5: I believe that's six straight losses now to the Yellow Jackets.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's confounding. especially when you think about the way
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  Speaker 1: they lose to Georgia Tech. Everything that Manny has built
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  Speaker 1: his program around is winning the fourth quarter, and they're
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  Speaker 1: able to win the fourth quarter in most games that
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  Speaker 1: they play. Illinois, they had a nice comeback win. They
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  Speaker 1: finished off games against Virginia in the ACC championship. Carolina
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  Speaker 1: last year, that was a tight game. Manny's 22-10 at Duke,
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  Speaker 1: and three of the ten losses are to Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 1: and all three of them have been decided in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. There's some mental blockage. There's something about the
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  Speaker 1: way Brent Key builds his program is better in that
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  Speaker 1: situation and that type of matchup than Duke has been.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of mystifying to watch Duke the first
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  Speaker 1: month of the season and see how well they played
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  Speaker 1: defensively and then look at them on Saturday and look
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  Speaker 1: at how many times the first guy to the ball
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  Speaker 1: did not get a tackle. And you're looking at plays
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  Speaker 1: that should have been like a two-yard game that turned
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  Speaker 1: into a six-yard game or an eight-yard game. And that's
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  Speaker 1: really hard to win a game when you do that.
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  Speaker 4: 100%. What do you know about going into this Carolina game?
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  Speaker 4: What do you know about Nate Shepard and his health?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, clearly he was out at times. There's clearly,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's ankle or foot or whatever
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  Speaker 4: it is. What do you know about his health going
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  Speaker 4: into this UNC game?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked him straight up after the game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: I said, you know, we saw you go in and
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  Speaker 1: out of the medical tent. It looked like, to me,
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  Speaker 1: the telltale was he was going out of bounds. And
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  Speaker 1: for a year and a half, watching Nate Shepard run
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  Speaker 1: the ball, if he's on the sideline, he's lowering his
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  Speaker 1: shoulder and delivering some punishment. He's not going out of bounds.
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  Speaker 1: So that was the first alarm bell in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: and he told us, He got rolled up on a
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  Speaker 1: screen in the second quarter. He was dealing with an
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  Speaker 1: ankle injury. It didn't limit him from having 190 yards,
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  Speaker 1: but we know how adrenaline works. So I would assume
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  Speaker 1: when the first availability report comes out tomorrow, he will
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  Speaker 1: probably be on it. He will either be questionable or probable.
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  Speaker 1: I think those are the two most likely outcomes. And
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  Speaker 1: then it's just a matter of has he iced it
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  Speaker 1: up enough? Does it feel good enough to be 100%
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  Speaker 1: against North Carolina? I don't think it's anything that would
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  Speaker 1: keep him out. I wouldn't– I'm not saying he's full
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  Speaker 1: go 100% for Saturday. It's just a matter of how
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  Speaker 1: close can they get him to 100%. Man, if he's
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  Speaker 1: limited in a large capacity, their offense changes.
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  Speaker 5: I will drive to Durham, saw off my ankle, and
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  Speaker 5: give it to him to play on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if my ankle will help him out
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  Speaker 2: at all, but for the brotherhood, man, I got to
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  Speaker 2: do what I got to do here.
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  Speaker 1: I was joking with somebody that were they going to
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  Speaker 1: saw off their legs so that they could have their
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  Speaker 1: kicker at Georgia Tech? Because that was a big thing that, like,
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  Speaker 1: popped up on the injury report. Their kicker was out. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 5: They've lost to Georgia Tech in that way under David Cutcliffe, too,
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  Speaker 5: where they missed a field goal at the end. I
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  Speaker 5: feel like Georgia Tech– and the end of the Georgia
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  Speaker 5: Tech game happens to them down there, the same movie
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  Speaker 5: all the damn time. The kicker misses wide, and it's just.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: The best– The best news coming out of Saturday for
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  Speaker 1: Duke is that Georgia Tech is not on their schedule
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  Speaker 1: in 2027.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent news. There you go.
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  Speaker 4: That is certainly good news. No doubt about it. All right, Connor,
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  Speaker 4: you do a great job on three sports, covering the Deacs,
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  Speaker 4: covering the Devils as well. And join us here on
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  Speaker 4: the Mac and Bone Show if you're a Deac or
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  Speaker 4: Devil fan or just a college sports fan, ACC fan,
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  Speaker 4: follow him at Connor O'Neill underscore D1.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, brother. Much appreciated, man. Be good.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks, Mack.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: That's Connor O'Neill joining us. On the Mac and Bone show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's a good point. It's not just the Shepard injury
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  Speaker 4: you've got to watch. The kicker injury, too. Because the
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  Speaker 4: freshman kid, Strange, I think is his name, Bone? That's
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  Speaker 4: a weird thing to say about a guy you don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's his name.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not calling him Strange. But he could end up
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  Speaker 4: being a real good kicker for y'all. But it makes
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  Speaker 4: you wonder if the more experienced one, not the freshman,
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  Speaker 4: was in there, if they would have forced overtime and
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  Speaker 4: won the game.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got to watch both those injuries this week.
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  Speaker 2: Especially in.
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  Speaker 5: In a series of games, it always seems to come
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  Speaker 5: down to the very end. They're often very close when
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: the heels and devils play, and it may come down
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  Speaker 5: to late kicks, something of that nature. So you're going
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  Speaker 5: to want full go for your regular guys.
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  Speaker 4: Bone, we got a great segment idea this week to
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: preview the Victory Bell game. It's going to be the
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  Speaker 4: Fan Roundtable with you, Fitty Aloysius Marlowe, and Complainer-in-Chief. And
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  Speaker 4: y'all just going to talk different shades of blue, baby.
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  Speaker 5: Can I choose another option? Can I give you another option?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What would you prefer? What if I lit myself on
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: fire on my radio? We could do that, actually. That'd
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: be good for ratings. Maybe we'll do that instead.
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  Speaker 4: Just engulfed in flames. Dude, Complainer-in-Chief is setting the tone.
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  Speaker 4: He is just— he woke up at 6.15 trying to annoy you.
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  Speaker 4: I know he's trying to break you down during Duke
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  Speaker 4: UNC week.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't want to bet the game, though, because he
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to put our friendship on the line. And
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  Speaker 5: the worst excuse ever given.
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  Speaker 2: Because I didn't know we were friends. Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to tell him. What's this
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  Speaker 2: friendship you're speaking of? All of a sudden we're friends,
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  Speaker 2: so we're not betting on the game.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I said it's a retirement match. If Carolina loses,
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: he's got to go away. Oh, shoot, that's big stakes.
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  Speaker 5: Big stakes.
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  Speaker 2: What about you, though? Well, I'll go somewhere. I might
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  Speaker 2: go away.
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  Speaker 7: You also have a good track record of retiring people
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  Speaker 7: in Durham, so... We can retire your ass after we
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  Speaker 7: retire Coach K.
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  Speaker 5: You didn't really say that with your full chest. What
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  Speaker 5: are you stuttering for over there?
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  Speaker 2: I have a speech problem. You know what it is, Mac?
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: You know what it is?
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  Speaker 5: He's on his ninth peanut butter cookie this morning over
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  Speaker 5: there right now. Oh, he's hopped up, man. Look at
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  Speaker 5: these things.
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  Speaker 2: Shrumpy brought cookies, and this guy is going to town
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 4: This dude's got a sugar high over there. I am
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  Speaker 4: going to be very intrigued to hear how Carolina fans talk.
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  Speaker 4: Once we get to Thursday, Friday especially, and Fitty and
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  Speaker 4: Complainer and Cheat, are y'all wanting a piece of Duke?
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  Speaker 4: Are you wanting to call out Duke in this matchup?
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  Speaker 4: Can Carolina win two games? big ones in a row
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  Speaker 4: i'm still skeptical of that you know if they can
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  Speaker 4: win these two in a row when we.
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  Speaker 5: Come back we'll talk about that game state struggles with
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  Speaker 5: wake forest the wake forest surge all that and more
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: the hot canes it's all on the table with adam
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: gold from 99.9 the fan in raleigh he joins us
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  Speaker 5: next for his weekly spot on the mac and bone
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  Speaker 5: show sports radio 92.7 wfnz.
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 3: Mack and Bone hanging out with you.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: There's some Panther paranoia in the air, but we've got
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  Speaker 4: to deal with this over the next couple of days.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: A lot of people texting in with bad feelings about
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Panthers going to Philadelphia. About the folks that they're going
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: to see there or the team?
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  Speaker 2: That's twofold. That's twofold. Heads on a swivel, folks. Be careful, please.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt about it, y'all. No doubt about it. Get
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: a cheesesteak to your head. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: But I will say this, though, Bone, and our next
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: guest can attest. Sometimes a team is told going into
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: a game in enemy territory that it's going to be
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: so hostile they will not be able to perform, that
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: they will fold under the pressure. And Adam gold might
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: be able to talk about that bone after what Manchester
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: city did is Liverpool football club over the weekend. Adam gold, 99, nine,
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: the fan in Raleigh. What's up Goldie. I'm sorry that
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: man city had to upset the entire soccer world on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: It's all good. It's good to know that you're one
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: of those fans that don't care about rules. That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I actually love Liverpool's game. until the bogus sending off
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  Speaker 3: of Ryan Gravenberg, who was the best player on the field,
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  Speaker 3: until that point.
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  Speaker 8: But that's okay. Enjoy the points while they count.
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  Speaker 4: I think we will. I think we will. We may
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  Speaker 4: lose them, but I think we'll try to enjoy it now. Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: all right, let's talk about a little more closer-to-home sports
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start with the Canes. Thank you, because
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: that felt personal. The Canes.
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  Speaker 4: I knew Goldie had that snark right back. I mean,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: he's got plenty of material to use. All right, Goldie,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: the Canes are on fire right now. Five straight wins.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: They're beating the heck out of Philly and then trolling
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  Speaker 4: the entire city on social media, on their social account.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what do you think about the way they're
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: playing right now? Because it seems like they've hit a groove.
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  Speaker 3: The last five games have been very, very Canes-like. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they've dominated play in every phase. I actually think the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: game on Sunday was the worst of the five, and
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: they won 4-1. I didn't think they were very good,
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  Speaker 3: but when they were good, they scored. So it created
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  Speaker 3: the separation. But combined, those five wins were over teams
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  Speaker 3: with five total wins. Philly hasn't won yet. Montreal's got two.
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  Speaker 3: Vancouver's got two. I'm trying to think the other team
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  Speaker 3: they beat. It doesn't really matter. Chicago has one. So
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: it's not like they beat the murderer's row. Tonight will
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: be a different test against the Washington Capitals. But I
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: love the way the team's playing, and I think they're
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: great anyway. And they're probably not that far away from
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: getting Seth Jarvis back.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Adam, there's a lot to talk about from the result
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: of Wake Forest and NC State this past Saturday. It's
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: the good for Wake Forest, but we'll start with the
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: negative for NC State and the blowout loss. How hot
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: is the seat for Dave Doran right now, and is
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: this the beginning of the end for him, do we think?
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I think Dave Doran calls his own shot. I've always
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: thought that. I think Dave will be the coach until
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Dave doesn't want to be the coach. I really do.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, but I said that before David Cutcliffe as well.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: And at some point, the administration basically has to take
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: the keys away. I'm not saying that that's going to
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: happen with State because the season isn't over yet. I mean,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I think it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: world if NC State ended the season with eight wins.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: And an 8-4 team with the way they are Supported financially?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's not the craziest thing that I've ever heard.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: You know, Dave has two problems. Dave's problem is messaging
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: to his fans, which he's not great at.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Except when they're winning. Now, when they're winning, man, they
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: love salty Dave.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: But they're not winning enough. And, frankly, Wake Forest just
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: kicked their fannies. in the second half. They could not
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: stop them at all. Look at the five drives in
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a row from the last drive of the first half
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: through the first four drives of the second half. I mean,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Wake Forest went them... through a goose, man. It was ridiculous.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Goldie, I wanted to bring up about Dave's message into
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: the fans.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: And you're right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: When they're beating Carolina or they're winning big games and
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: you get solo cup and cigar, Dave, oh my God,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: NC State fans love it. But that answer the other
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: day to a truly legitimate question about why the heck
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: against opponents not named Richmond, they are getting obliterated in
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: the second half of games. and him acting like, oh,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: it's execution, which to me is blaming players. Can't be
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: lack of adjustments or other teams adjust. Like that can't
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: be what fans want to hear, man.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: No, it's not what anybody wants to hear. Sometimes, and
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I've used this with Roy Williams all the time. Roy Williams,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: who is... I don't know, one of the top six, seven,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: eight coaches in the history of college basketball. When his
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: team played poorly, it was never about them. It was
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: always about him. Now, he might not have been telling
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: the truth, but your fans want to know that you
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: are not, you are being accountable. And Dave, whether he's
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: right or not, and my assumption is he's probably more
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: right than not. is that you still can't do it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: And you can't couch accountability by saying, well, we have
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: to do a better job of helping them execute. Because
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: you're essentially saying, yeah, it's them, not me. And fans
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: don't want to hear that. And so, again, he might
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: be right, but you can't say it. The other thing
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: that bothered me was when they asked him, what do
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: you make of Wake doing this with their resources instead
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: And Dave pretended to not know that Wake is barely
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: funding their football program.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: How do you not know that? Oh, yeah, that was shameless.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Well, he knows it, but he doesn't want to admit
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: it to everybody.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: He can't acknowledge it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you acknowledge that you got, I mean,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: it absolutely shoved into you by a team that was
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: funded maybe a third of what you're funded. You can't
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: do that. And he refused to do it. I thought
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: it was a good question. And by the way, Wake's
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: legitimately good. I don't think they're a playoff good, but
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: they're legitimately good.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Well, that was my question. How much are you buying
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: into the playoff chatter? There are some projections. SI.com has
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: them as a playoff team. Why aren't you buying in
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: as the Deacs as a second team out of the ACC?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Look, I'll do that. I'll do that if they keep winning.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: But I don't think they're going 11-1.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: We're talking with Adam Gold, 99-9 fan in Raleigh.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: We had a suspicion Goldie would not play your Wake
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Forest playoff game.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: I said there's no way Goldie's buying into Wake's playoff team.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: They have to go 11-1.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: And then the problem is, on top of that, they
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: probably have to beat Miami in a rematch in the ACC.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, 11-2 with losses to Miami,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: as good as Miami is, they're going to take a
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: three-loss SEC team instead, you know?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Well, if Lake Forest losses, I mean, like, if we
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: want to play out this mental exercise.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, now we got them in.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, they could lose at Cal. very easily
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: this weekend.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tricky one.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: But if Wake's only two losses are to Miami, they're
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: a playoff team.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, you think so? Okay. Well, there we go, Bone.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: We got that. Right in this town. They're a playoff
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: team if their.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Only two losses are to Miami. arguably one of the
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: top three teams in the country.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: The problem is, will they have a ranked win?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: It's possible they can go this whole season and not
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: have a ranked win and two losses to Miami.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Who freaking cares if they don't have a ranked win?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: By the way, Louisville was ranked at the time.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: They have SMU, but they need to hang on desperately
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: to their ranking.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. There's no mechanism.
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: Zero mechanism.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: For the strength of your schedule.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: None.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And if they decide to hold wake to it, then
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I'm going to scream nonstop for three months about how
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: fraudulent the system is. Because Indiana didn't play a damn
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: soul two years ago. Not a soul. So.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Wake Forest's non-conference schedule is better than Indiana's was two
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: years ago. They just kicked everybody's rear end, just like
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Wake's doing.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: See, Bo, not only do we get Goldie to engage
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: on Wake's playoff chances, I now gave him a hypothetical
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: scenario by which he would scream at folks on behalf
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: of Wake. He's riding that motorcycle like a deacon. What
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: do you think about UNC getting a win against Pitt?
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: And now I'm sensing from some of our UNC texters,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: I'm sensing they think they might be able to get
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: the victory bell and make it two upsets in a row.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: How are you feeling about that?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: This is what I expected from Bill Belichick. I don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: think they're great by any stretch of the imagination. But
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: it's sort of the opposite. This is not about Dave Dorn.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: It's about most college coaches. Most college coaches aren't as good...
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: as Bill Belichick at managing and winning games in the margins.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: And that's where I think Bill Belichick was always going
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: to have an advantage at the college level. There would
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: be a game or maybe two per year that he
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: would steal because of the way he does things and
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: the way he has teams prepared to win those games
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: in the margins. And that's where they beat Pitt. They
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: let Pitt make mistakes. I still don't understand. Pat Narduzzi...
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: You know your quarterback is terrible, right? So whenever you
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: are presented with the opportunity to.
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: Get points, take them.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Why you're going for it on fourth down at the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: 21-yard line is beyond me. I don't care that there's
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: four and a quarter left. Just take the three. You're
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: going to get the ball back, which they did twice.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Bill is brilliant as a football coach, especially in games.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: They've got good enough players. They can take advantage of it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Do I think they're going to beat Duke? I think
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a heck of a game. Let's
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: see how Duke handles Jelani Thurman, Jordan Shipp, three really
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: good running backs. Duke has to find another way besides
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Nate Shepard. That's what scared me about Georgia Tech, that
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: they were going to take Nate Shepard out of the game,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: and as best as you can, they did. And Duke
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: wasn't able to beat them without using Nate Shepard exclusively.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: All right, Goldie, we appreciate it. Goldie, I feel like
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: people are not mad at you on the text line.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: This is an amazing appearance on the show.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Would you like to hear this one guy's comment, though, Goldie?
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know how this is possible. Goldie sounds like
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: a bald man.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: How do you tell by a voice if a man
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: is bald or not?
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: They sound aerodynamic.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Goldie would pass the wind tunnel test, baby. No doubt
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: about it. Goldie, well, I did get this text, though.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: This dude says, I could hear it in Goldie's voice.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: The second Mac did the arrogant Man City fan routine shamelessly,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: despite 114 guilty charges, Goldie lost respect for Mac. Is
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: that true?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: No.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, good. I was worried about that for a second.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: When did you become a City fan? 2018? Yeah. You
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Right when the charges stopped happening.
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: They're still benefiting from the cheating, but still, you became
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: a City fan, right, after they had already established themselves
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: as one of the betters sides in the Premier League.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: You don't know that they were once down in League One.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I don't either.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I do now. I know all the history now.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we all do. So they cheated to get into
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: the club, which I totally understand.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Because the rules were established so teams like them can't
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: get in the club. Correct.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But anyway.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: The rules are awful.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I just, Goldie, I just wanted to clear that up.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I got worried there. Goldie lost respect for me.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Because Bone and Fitty lost respect for me years ago,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: but I didn't want to lose it from you, too.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: He's a Chelsea fan. Like, I got zero respect for Chelsea.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: Oh!
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Man!
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: What?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just straight. I'm just minding my own business.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And thank you for reminding me who I root for. Goldie,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you are the man, brother. We'll talk to you next week.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Later, brother.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Later, brother.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: All right, there you go. We appreciate it, Goldie. App
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: fan Phil, he's also one of these AKA guys, AKA
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: crotch chop.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Bony, says.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: One of my top AKA guys. That and Rick, AKA
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Scorcher the Blue Ridge.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Says you have to have respect for someone in order
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: to lose respect. That's cold. 704 number says, Mac just
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: got called out. Man jumped on a bandwagon, and now
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: he's going to have all his bandwagon trophies taken away.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: It was because of Kevin DeBruyne. I picked Kevin DeBruyne
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: as team. He was the guy I wanted to root for.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: I just happened to luck into all of this. But
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: now maybe I'm not lucky. Now I'm rooting for a
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: bunch of cheetahs. Maybe I'm not lucky. Anyway, but there's
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: an appeal bone. It will be heard in court.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Keep us updated. Do we do a Fit update? No,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Does he not get updates anymore?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Do you have an update today?
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: We don't have sponsored updates.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I can still flash.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Let's do it, baby.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Let's give Fitty some time here, bro.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: We need to get you some pay. Maybe a listener
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: wants to pay for an update.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Who wants to sponsor Fitty's updates, man? to get this
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: guy more airtime? Alright, what do you got over there, Fitt?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: It's alright to be a little Fitty. In a little
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: hometown or a big old city. Might as well share,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: might as well smile. Life goes on for a little Fitty.
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Well, let's turn our attention back to Monday Night Football.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: The Bills on the road in L.A. They get the
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: win in overtime 37-34. Believe it or not, the first
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: overtime win of Josh Allen's career. He was 0-7 all-time
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: in overtime games going into last night. You had a
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: punch thrown in the postgame live on SportsCenter behind Scott
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: Van Pelt's... set there inside a SoFi stadium.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Scott Van Pelt sounds like a bald man too. I've
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: been thinking that lately and all these very weird.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: He looks like we sound like we, we, we have
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: sexy voices.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: All of us. I think that's what the guy was
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: trying to say.
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: And then back for all, all the talk in the
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: preseason about how great this Rams team was going to be.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Could they go 17 and oh, they find themselves two
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: and three After five weeks this season.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I know, man.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Anytime you get that super team hype bone in the NFL,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: it seems like they get hit with a not so fast,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: my friend. And I'm not saying their season's done, but
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: they're clearly not. I mean, there were people talking about 17-0, Bo.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: The Fun Fitties sponsor update. The Fun Fitties updates here
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: has gone awry, by the way. People are now putting
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: together a fund to get Fitties to not talk on
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: the air.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Now, that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: That's actually me. We'll take the money here. You know
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: radio program, the Panthers spent the off week self-scouting. What
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: are things you would like to see done differently after
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: the bye week? It's an ask the audience question, courtesy
• 31:41
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• 31:46
  Speaker 5: and Bone Show, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: Bryce, Peyton was being way too humble when he spoke
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: about his NFL struggles. He actually threw 28 interceptions as
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: a rookie, which is still an NFL record. So, Bryce,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: kind of a two-part question here. How impressed are you
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: with Peyton's record, and do you think it will ever
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: be broken? That means you never stop slinging it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I respect that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: That's all that means. No confidence as well.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: That's the best one right there. There you go, Bryce.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Bryce getting Peyton's back as Eli trolls him for his
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: 28 interceptions as a rookie. That came up. That was
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: on the Manning cast. Bryce was on there for a
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: good 23, 24 minutes. It's fun to see him get
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: to do these things. And it came up in the
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: conversation of, you know, rough rookie seasons, and that doesn't
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: define who you are, right? And that's part of Bryce's story.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: We did, Boney, I feel like you called this yesterday.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: We did get a texter today that basically said, Bryce,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: you got your fun. You got to do all these interviews.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: You better get back to work and you better win
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: this week. You predicted, Boney, that there would be some
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: sort of like fan at least slash yeah that right
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: slash that hey i hope all these interviews you're doing
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: like i gotta be honest i'm not even sure he's
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: really enjoying the attention like like he's the sort of
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: guy like cam love him god bless the man One
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: of my favorite Panthers ever, but Cam loves attention, right?
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: But with Bryce, I'm not even sure he totally loves it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: He does it, but you know what I mean? It's
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: not like he's at home when people are bragging on him.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: And stuff like that. No, it's not something. It's Luke Kuechly-like.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: He's not seeking it out. Someone told me yesterday that
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: there's been some people on Twitter. I have not seen
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: it that much because— Believe it or not, every once
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: in a while I do try to avoid negativity sometimes.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: So I haven't paid full attention to it, but someone
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: did say that there has been some right slash of
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: he's out there too much and not focused on what
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: he needs to focus on. I haven't seen it, but
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: someone told me that. If anyone can back that up,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: let me know.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: So you kind of thought it was only a matter
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: of time until we at least got one or two
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: on the text line. Casey in Mooresville, most people are miserable.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Have you seen gas prices?
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: Hey, down 41 sitting, man, thanks to the governor of
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: North Carolina.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go. What about 92? He
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: played a role, I'm sure.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: We're going to get it figured out once we get
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: the straight back open.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Hormuz, what a pain in the ass. Thank you, 92.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: This texter says, the fact that anybody could turn on
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Bryce and resent him for doing interviews when he had
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: to wait over three years to get a nice national narrative. Yeah,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's literally one person. I don't want to
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: make this seem like this is any kind of major
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: thing we're dealing with in Panther Nation.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Bryce talking to the Mannings. I'm all like, depending what
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: team you root for, I get that. But just who
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: they are. Is that, Mac, one of the most likable
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: trios ever? bryson the mannings oh does anyone really truly
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: salt of the earth does anyone not like the mannings
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: salt of the earth well but all right let's talk
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: real quick here uh just for a couple minutes about
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: the idea of the panthers using their bi-week like they
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: always do to self-scout and the way dave canal has
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: put it yesterday on panther talk was we are looking
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: we are talking about what things we need to start
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  Speaker 5: doing that we haven't done, what things do we need
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  Speaker 5: to stop doing entirely, and what things do we need
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  Speaker 5: to continue doing?
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  Speaker 4: If you self-scout the Panthers' bone, is there anything different
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: you want to see them do? What do you think
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  Speaker 4: needs to be the emphasis coming out of a self-study period?
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Well, obviously it wouldn't be a lot of the offensive
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: stuff and the play calling that's going well. Of course,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: the offensive line mat needs to be addressed, but is
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: that more– that has to happen when you get guys
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  Speaker 5: back more than schematically, right? You have to figure out
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  Speaker 5: what your best five is going to be, how that's
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: going to work. So maybe they're spending time on that.
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  Speaker 5: I think defensively, is where they need to try to
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  Speaker 5: figure out how can this be a balanced football team
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  Speaker 5: to go with this offense that has been hot the
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: majority of the season so far.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I do think you do need to, first of all,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: the first thing I was going to say is that
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: training staff over there, they've got to figure out the
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: soft tissue injuries. Not all the injuries are soft tissue injuries, right?
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Like Wharton and Moten have been designated to return to practice,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: and those weren't. But, like, the soft tissue injuries, it's like,
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  Speaker 4: is something going on over there? And I'm sure they
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: are studying it. I'm not breaking some news to them.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: They need to do this. As far as O-line, I
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: do think the consistency of the running game, and I
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: do think pass protection they want to improve. Yeah, once
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: they get Moten back, you think naturally that would help Bone,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: get Damian Lewis back. I think we need him this
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: week for Jalen Carter on the other side. But I
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: do think they have to figure out, hey, how much.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: They gave a lot of help on Hutchinson. I think
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: that's something they've got to, there's going to be similar
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: game plans are going to be needed this week. It's
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: probably how do we handle Jalen Carter? I think over
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: on defense bone, I think it's, find somebody to play
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: the corner opposite Willie.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like, and if they're going to give a Caleb Evans
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  Speaker 4: another chance, it's got to be a short leash. Like
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: they cannot go a full game bone. Not that Jalen
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: hurts right now is as scary passing the ball as
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: golf and the lions. But I, if he makes a
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: mistake or two, I'd have a short leash on him
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  Speaker 4: this week. You can't let him go out there and
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: give up 12 damn completions again on you, man.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: No, right now, Mac, they're 31st in rush yards allowed
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  Speaker 5: per game. They're 32nd in just yards per rush. And
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  Speaker 5: the numbers are really, there's really not any good defensive
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: numbers so far at all. Besides, yeah, there's really, they're
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: all in the 20s in every defensive category.
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  Speaker 4: But it's the first game. I gave you the stat
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: last week. They gave up 59 points the first game.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: They were horrible. The last three games, they're 7th in
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: defensive EPA. In the three games. What have they given up, Bone,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: in the last three games? 17 points a game on average?
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: No, it's gotten better, but if you're looking to areas
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: to improve, it still would be that area.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: And the run defense, too, has gotten better. They need
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: to keep getting better, but look at what they did
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: to Gibbs. 3.1 yards of carry to that back.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: No one else doing that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Obviously, the rushing numbers aren't great. The pass numbers are
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: off the charts. One other area to improve, although it's
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: not horrible, they are 17th in third-down conversion rate. That's
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: another one where, with that passing offense, how good they are,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: they can still get better in third-down conversions on offense.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: With how good they are passing right now. This dude said, Bone,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: don't mind Max. Max Self-Scout at 2-2 is where the
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: greatest team ever to play. Don't question us.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: You like that one, Boat? Pretty good. It is funny.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: We've gotten a lot of this. Actually, I have.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to read that text about flounder self-scouting. Hey, now.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay. I've gotten a lot of this. Not really
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: you guys.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I've gotten a lot of, does Mac know we're two
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: and two? Mac is acting like, remember the guy said
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: max arrogant at two and two i just have to
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: be fair max arrogant despite the records i have a
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: feeling bone that word you know my feelings don't always
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: work out y'all my little warm and tinglys don't always
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: work out for the home team But I have a
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: feeling that we are doing a really good job, first
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: place by ourselves, albeit in a stinky division, of Bryce
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: number one in passing yards despite being the most pressured.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: I just have a feeling, Bo, and the pass protection
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: will improve as the O-line gets healthier.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Eventually the corners will get back.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: And I just have a feeling that if we can
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: hold it together, and I think we will, especially in
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: this division, until we're healthy– I have a feeling this
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: could be a damn good football team.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: So, like, I'm not.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Trying to act like we're the greatest thing now. I
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: just have this feeling of confidence.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I know you do.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: You're a confident man. Someone says, don't change a thing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Just let the other teams in the South keep playing games.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Fair point.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: This dude said his adjustment would be to try to
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: take bye weeks the rest of the season and just
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: let the South lose. We don't really have to be
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: that good, Matt. Just don't be as bad as the
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: other teams. That's the thing. So that's the thing. We
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: have the luxury of this division. i feel like boom
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: we might be able to get all the way to
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: get mike jack and horn back and still be in
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: first like that that's exactly and at the very least
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: i don't see anybody that's gonna like oh my god
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: they're three games up like i just think what are
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: those guys this is the division to kind of get
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: our feet those.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Guys are what about five weeks back it's a long
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: season too what are they about five weeks back come
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: back end of november.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah you're You're starting to get to that. Oh,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: these are Mike Jack, right? Horn, I think we're still trying.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Mike Jack could be four or five weeks. Horn, maybe
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: at this point, like six or so, seven. 704 number says, Mac,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I get the way you feel, but could we find
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: a way in our self-scout to win two games in
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: a row? The general just consistency. That's what they're searching for.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Canales said it yesterday. He said it numerous times. Just
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: a general consistency, Bone, where they show up. They show
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: up to the Bear game, the defense was hot garbage.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: They show up to the Browns game, the offense is
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: shut down, can't finish in the red zone. It's just,
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: can you find a way? And find a way, Bone,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: when one side of the ball doesn't have its fastball.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Find a way maybe to win that game.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a slugfest, a grind-it-out game, or the Cleveland game.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Find ways to win those type of games. I don't
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: know what we would do if we had to dance
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: back-to-back weeks. I don't think I'm in a fat year,
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: and I don't think I'm ready for that right now.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: How many strains of muscles would there be if we
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: had to dance a second straight Monday?
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: We will blame the substation for that. And not the
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: electrical station, not the substation. The substation is the sandwich place.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: We can't blame them for injuries. When we come back
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: here on the Mac and Bone Show, we look at
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: the college football playoff picture. Is the ACC destined for
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: one team only, or could Wake Forest... Make a run
• 42:25
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