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185. Jordan Chiles, Gymnast & Olympic Silver Medalist · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: I always believe in the power of your dreams. Your
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  Speaker 1: dreams are bigger than you think, and if you believe
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  Speaker 2: What's going on, everyone, Emily A body here coming to
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  Speaker 2: episode one eighty five of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast
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  Speaker 2: where I connect with everyone from your favorite athletes to
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  Speaker 2: top experts and industry CEOs about their highest highs, toughest moments,
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  Speaker 2: you can stride towards your own big potential and of
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  Speaker 2: course have some fun along the way. This week, I
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  Speaker 2: am so amped understatement to be chatting with the one,
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  Speaker 2: the only, Jordan Childs. She's a pro gymnast Olympic silver
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  Speaker 2: medalist who made waves at this year's Games by stepping
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  Speaker 2: in for best friend and teammate Simone Biles after she
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  Speaker 2: had to withdraw from the team competition following a shaky
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  Speaker 2: showing on vault. Today we talk all about that moment
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  Speaker 2: in Tokyo, what it felt like.
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  Speaker 3: To get that silver medal and the necessary.
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  Speaker 2: Conversation that Team USA Gymnastics has sparked about the prioritization
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  Speaker 2: of mental health. Plus we learned about Jordan's beginnings right
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  Speaker 2: how she unwillingly went to her first ever gymnastics practice seriously,
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  Speaker 2: how she navigated verbal abuse early in her gymnastics career
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  Speaker 2: and the impact that has had on her, Plus her
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  Speaker 2: big career aspirations beyond the match.
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  Speaker 3: This conversation to be real.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun and it's honest, and mostly I'm just thankful
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  Speaker 2: that Jordan was able to squeeze me in while finishing
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  Speaker 2: to her and the team for making this all happen.
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  Speaker 2: We're heading into the holidays this week, Thanksgiving on deck
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  Speaker 2: Hanukkah on Sunday, and thus it begins, and so I
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  Speaker 3: With that, let's get to hurdling today.
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  Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Jordan Childs. She's an Olympic
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  Speaker 2: silver medalist gymnast.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan. Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Where in the world right now is Jordan Chiles?
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  Speaker 1: Currently? I am in Pittsburgh, which is really really crazy
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  Speaker 1: because yesterday, well know, the day before, we were in
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina, So, you know, I'm just traveling all over the.
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  Speaker 2: World, all over the world. You're on the Gold Over
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  Speaker 2: America tour. Talk to me how that has been for
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  Speaker 2: you. You kind of jumped pretty much right into this not
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  Speaker 2: too soon after coming back from Tokyo.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, definitely was a right away thing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this tour has been an amazing experience. I want to
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  Speaker 1: change the world for it, and I'm happy I was
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  Speaker 1: able to be a part of it, which is really
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  Speaker 1: really cool just to even say, like when I was younger,
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  Speaker 1: I've wanted to be a tour and actually being in
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  Speaker 1: a tour is a huge, huge accomplishment for me.
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  Speaker 2: I love the sentence like when I was younger, not
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  Speaker 2: to like diminish your age right now, but you have
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  Speaker 2: done so much by the age of twenty that is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely remarkable. So it's just funny, you know, that kind
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  Speaker 2: of perspective. But if you've done this much already, like
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  Speaker 2: think about how much of more of the world is
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  Speaker 2: like for you to conquer.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I know it's been crazy. I mean just to
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  Speaker 1: even think about my accomplishments from before I was even twenty,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy. And now I'm like, oh, my goodness, so
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  Speaker 1: much I've been doing.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite city that y'all have been
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  Speaker 3: to on this tour so far?
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  Speaker 1: Obviously Houston was my go to, you know, my Texans
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  Speaker 1: were definitely out there representing us, which was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean every city that we've gone to has
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  Speaker 1: been amazing. A lot of the cities I've been to
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  Speaker 1: before due to like competitions I've done out there, but
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  Speaker 1: definitely been really fun and really cool, the energy, the vibes.
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  Speaker 2: Everything, everything, and like, I mean, just a landmark year
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  Speaker 2: for you, which is crazy to think about the fact
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  Speaker 2: that not all that long ago, about like four years ago,
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  Speaker 2: you were kind of at a point where you were like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I really want to do this anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me about how you got to that point
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  Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: It took me a while to be back into the
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  Speaker 1: position I wanted to actually feel like I could fulfill something.
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  Speaker 1: It took me almost two years. But you know, those
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  Speaker 1: are all lessons. Those are all things that people go through.
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  Speaker 1: Not every single thing in my life is perfect, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't consider my life perfect. It's not a thing
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  Speaker 1: that is up in the air where I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, my life is this, this and this, But
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  Speaker 1: it's not. Everybody goes through a lot of things, and
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  Speaker 1: at that moment, I was just going through a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things. And it took me a while, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I had this support, I had the love, I had
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  Speaker 1: the encouraging words that people were giving me, telling me like, look,
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  Speaker 1: you can do this if you want to. We all
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  Speaker 1: know you're talented. So if you want to do it,
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  Speaker 1: you do it. If not, that's on you. So it
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  Speaker 1: definitely was a huge, like humongous toll on me. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: so thankful that I was able to push through those
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  Speaker 1: years and just be able to look back and be
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  Speaker 1: like those years never existed.
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  Speaker 3: Were just like pretend they never happened.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean to your point, like going through that
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  Speaker 2: time where you like looked at your mom and you
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  Speaker 2: were like, I don't want to look at any of
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  Speaker 2: this gymnastics stuff anymore. I want to take a break,
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  Speaker 2: like I'm not about it, Like you felt some kind
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  Speaker 2: of way to like go from that to where you
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  Speaker 2: are now, Like that experience it taught you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it did. I honestly like if I even said
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  Speaker 1: that to my mom now, my heart would probably hit me,
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  Speaker 1: like really really hard because it's just like I went
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  Speaker 1: through so much, Like the reasonings on why I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do it was really really crazy. I just didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be in that gymnastics world at that moment
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  Speaker 1: in time. But like if I said that now, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be crazy. I don't know why I'd be saying it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Like I said there are lessons, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's a lot of people say, oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: a failure thing, like you were going to fail and dad,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not. It's just a lesson that I had
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  Speaker 1: to learn. I don't believe in failure because failure isn't
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  Speaker 1: a thing in life. They're all just lessons and you
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  Speaker 1: have to either figure out, Okay, what did I do
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  Speaker 1: during this lesson? Do I pick bits and pieces out
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  Speaker 1: of it that I did good in it and take
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  Speaker 1: that with me, or do I just leave that lesson
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  Speaker 1: behind and be like, Okay, it's okay, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: move on. So that's how I kind of figure things out.
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  Speaker 2: Talk me through what had happened leading up to this
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  Speaker 2: period of time where you debated walking away from sport,
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  Speaker 2: and before you do that, I do just want to
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  Speaker 2: say that the wisdom that you have around this topic
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  Speaker 2: is like, so well beyond your years. I know so
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  Speaker 2: much many people that struggle to find the silver linings
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  Speaker 2: that you're talking about when it comes to overcoming what
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  Speaker 2: we refer to on the show as these hurdle moments, right,
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  Speaker 2: So kudos to you on that level, But talk to
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  Speaker 2: me about perhaps the hardships that you were experiencing, or
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  Speaker 2: the frustrations that made you just want to be like, nah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm all sad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you for saying that the hardships
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  Speaker 1: that I was going through was basically I was verbally abused.
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  Speaker 1: I was verguely abused to it an extent of me
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  Speaker 1: feeling like even if you told me like, hey, this
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  Speaker 1: is what you look like, I would go into a
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  Speaker 1: shutdown mode and would not come out of my room.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't really eat like it was just really bad.
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  Speaker 1: It even came to the way I looked my hair,
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  Speaker 1: my complexion, my everything. So those were the times that
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  Speaker 1: I had to figure out if I was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: able to feel strong enough to continue knowing that I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to get criticized for things like this, or to
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  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, this isn't for me and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna figure out another route that I'm supposed to go.
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  Speaker 1: But you know the person I am, I'm not a quitter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a hard working person. So I just took that
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  Speaker 1: with me and understood like, this is going to make
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  Speaker 1: me stronger and this is going to make me feel
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  Speaker 1: like Okay, I was able to defeat something that I
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  Speaker 1: thought I wasn't going to be able to So all
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  Speaker 1: that aches and pains and crying and feeling like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't exist in the world and all that stuff is
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  Speaker 1: actually a huger perspective in my life than it isn't
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, because I took that with me
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  Speaker 1: and it made me stronger and it made me feel like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know where I can put myself in this position
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  Speaker 1: and I can stand strong and just continue what I
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  Speaker 1: need to do.
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  Speaker 2: So interesting, right, it makes me think about that. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like it's like a saying or something. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: don't take feedback from people that you wouldn't look to
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  Speaker 2: for advice. And so for you, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: about four years ago now. To go through that experience
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  Speaker 2: and think about all these things, think about how you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna feel about the fact that people are gonna have
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  Speaker 2: an opinion about you, I mean, back then compared to
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  Speaker 2: where you are now, it's actually kind of really awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even though like it sucked in the moment,
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  Speaker 2: But if you hadn't gone through that then, I mean now,
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  Speaker 2: like I mean, you're you know, you've blown up after
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  Speaker 2: everything that had happened in the past year, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak. So to be able to deal with
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  Speaker 2: this right now, it's like you needed that awful time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I would. I would say so too, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what would happen if I believe everything happens
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  Speaker 1: for a reason. That's how I take things. And it's
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  Speaker 1: been a while since I've even thought about what happened
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  Speaker 1: in the past and all that, because it's like those
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  Speaker 1: memories are basically almost gone, which I'm so happy about
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  Speaker 1: because it's like I want to transfer my life into
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  Speaker 1: a new basically new season, a new chapter and feeling like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is how my life is supposed to be. But man,
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  Speaker 1: those I have no like, I have no say on
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  Speaker 1: what was going on, but it definitely was something that
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  Speaker 1: had pushed me to where I am right now, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm very very thankful for that, because, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened if that those
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  Speaker 1: moments didn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So before we get into the future and where you're going,
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  Speaker 2: of course, we do need to reflect a little bit
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  Speaker 2: on the past. So before you know the now and
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  Speaker 2: the past year, which was the Olympics and that big
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  Speaker 2: moment for you when you got started with gymnastics, Did
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  Speaker 2: you feel as excited as passionate about it as you
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  Speaker 2: soon would become.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly didn't know what I was putting myself through.
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  Speaker 1: I just needed to get energy out. I had a
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  Speaker 1: like I could not sit still to the point where
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  Speaker 1: my dad would ask me a question and I would
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  Speaker 1: only be able to answer the question if I was moving,
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  Speaker 1: and it got so bad to where he was like
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  Speaker 1: getting frustrated, like Okay, I can't deal with this, Like
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  Speaker 1: my daughter needs to actually give me an answer while
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  Speaker 1: she's staying still. And so, you know, I got the
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  Speaker 1: gift of the sports part of my family, and it
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  Speaker 1: was something that like, I could you can put me
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  Speaker 1: in track, I'll run track, I can hit a ball.
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  Speaker 1: I used to play softball, I used to do this,
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  Speaker 1: do that. But gymnastics kind of just stuck with me
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  Speaker 1: because it was something that I felt like I was
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  Speaker 1: a superhero and I felt like I was able just
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  Speaker 1: to go out there and have fun with it and
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  Speaker 1: not worry about Okay, this, that and the other. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, at first I didn't know what I was doing,
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  Speaker 1: but then once I realized like what everybody else was doing,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Okay, yeah, I can do this.
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  Speaker 1: This is cool.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting too about your story about getting involved with gymnastics,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll let you tell it, But you didn't really
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  Speaker 2: go at first willingly.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. I actually was blindfolded and it
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  Speaker 1: was sometime around December of whatever year that was, I remember,
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  Speaker 1: But I was getting picked up from school, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: and they blindfolded me, and as a little kid, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you blindfold you're thinking, oh, okay, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: get a present, like this is cool. So I walked
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  Speaker 1: into the gym and they took my blindfold off and
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  Speaker 1: I looked at them and I started crying and I said,
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  Speaker 1: I thought you got me a puppy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that was my first time walking into the gym scenario.
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  Speaker 1: And they looked at me and they're like, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: what did we just do?
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  Speaker 2: But how soon after that moment did you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you were actually like excited to start showing up at
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  Speaker 2: the gym?
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember?
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  Speaker 1: It was like so when they had told me what
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  Speaker 1: it was and what I was doing, I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like sure, I'll try it. And I progressed so fast
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  Speaker 1: that after like the second it was like I was
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  Speaker 1: doing classes there we go. It was my first time.
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  Speaker 1: Like the second day, I went into the class and
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  Speaker 1: I taught myself a lot of the skills that I
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  Speaker 1: did when I was younger. So I taught myself how
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  Speaker 1: to do a car well, I taught myself how to
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  Speaker 1: do a backwalk over and all that because I was
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  Speaker 1: watching like the girls and the other team and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So three four days later, I was doing classes, doing classes,
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  Speaker 1: and I went up to my mom and a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of people and the bleachers were telling my mom like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: your daughter is so talented. And she was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're just putting her in here just to get her
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  Speaker 1: energy out, like there's nothing right. But then a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of coaches came up to her and was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we want her on pre team. Then after that it
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  Speaker 1: was over with. I went to pre team. I was
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  Speaker 1: learning things like really really quick, and it was it
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  Speaker 1: was really fast. It was a fast road for me.
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  Speaker 1: That road was really really fast.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there's like a reason why so many gymnasts.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, it's a young sport to
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  Speaker 2: begin with, But why so many gymnasts start so young?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's almost like you need that like next level
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  Speaker 2: of like uninhibited. I'm just gonna do whatever you tell
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  Speaker 2: me to try right now, because as an adult, like
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  Speaker 2: you look at some of the insane, unbelievable stuff that
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  Speaker 2: you guys do on the beam and the bars and
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  Speaker 2: the vault, and I mean all of it, and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: holy sh like it's just insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it definitely is. Like I said, I felt like
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  Speaker 1: I was flying or I was like a superhero half
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  Speaker 1: the time. So learning new skills and seeing what I
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  Speaker 1: was doing, like I can't even comprehend Like if you
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  Speaker 1: if you showed me a video of when I was
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  Speaker 1: younger and what I was doing, I probably in that
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  Speaker 1: moment wasn't even comprehending on what I was doing in general.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was just throwing stuff half the time,
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  Speaker 1: because that's just like what we do when we're younger.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, okay, we'll try this, like let's go. I
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  Speaker 1: guess there's nothing. But now if you told me that,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, let me hold on, let me
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  Speaker 1: make sure my back's okay, my shoulders, but oh exactly,
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  Speaker 1: like make maybe like let me think about it a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times. But yeah, definitely when you're younger, those
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  Speaker 1: times were it's just okay, like let's just do it,
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  Speaker 1: see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously it's like we've all seen like different footage
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  Speaker 2: of famous gymnasts like taking the wrong tumble or taking
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  Speaker 2: a fall or something like that. Do you recall the
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  Speaker 2: first time, maybe I don't know if you had to
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  Speaker 2: get seriously injured, but you took that misstep and how
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  Speaker 2: that made you feel, like did that change your perspective
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  Speaker 2: of what was really going on in that room?
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  Speaker 1: So the very first time that I even attempted some
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  Speaker 1: things like so bad like that was on beam. The
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  Speaker 1: one that I remember, and it was before was at
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  Speaker 1: State or something, and I was on beam and I
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  Speaker 1: was doing a two and a half dismount, so it
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  Speaker 1: was two and a half twist and I hybrided into
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  Speaker 1: my knee like really really badly, to where they were like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, if you didn't have the quads you do,
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  Speaker 1: your knee would have been gone. And I was like, yeah, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like it's my career over, like what
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  Speaker 1: do I do? But luckily I was able to come back.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: But that was the first time I actually like was
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: like this is definitely a dangerous sport, like anything can happen.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Not being someone that's ever done gymnastics myself, I went
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: like the ballet like less like scary root for a
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: little while before I got into soccer and took a
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: break from sport and then got into running. But not
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: being in the gymnastics world, what kind of talk is
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: there about maybe body awareness and like navigating injury like
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: kind of from the get go, so that you can
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: prepare yourselves for you know, these potentially really scary moments.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I would say, like making sure you are
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: in the right mind out that moment, because you don't
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: want to be tired. You don't want to be oh,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like doing this. You don't want to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: have those thoughts in your head because whatever the last
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: thing your brain was thinking is what's going to happen.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: So if you're saying, oh, I'm tired, then your body,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: like how we do our movements, your body, your mind
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: tells your body what to do. It's all being able
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to just be like, Okay, so if I can do
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: this when I'm sleep, I should be able to do
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: it when I'm sleep. And so you going into those
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: skills you really really need to think about like am
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I rested enough? Am I able to do this? Do
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I need to go tell my coach if something's wrong,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Like you just have to be able to really really
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: think about what's going to happen.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's like a very mind body
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: connection sport. It's almost like, all right, like I have
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: mastered this routine. I know what's supposed to happen for
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the next four minutes, which seems like it goes by
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: in a flash but also takes forever. And when you're
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: out there, it's like in my I mean like when
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I'm watching, I'm like, it just feels like it's all
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: just strung together, so I can totally hear what you're
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: saying about, like where your mind is at when you
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: show up. Like that's a very that really makes a
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: big difference. Yes, let's fast forward toward the.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Olympics, but I don't want to get there just yet.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: So after you came back from twenty seventeen and started
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: getting back into the singles things and training in Texas,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: talk to me about when you started to actually get
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: excited for the idea of heading to Tokyo.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: It was actually the two thousand and eight Olympics. I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: was watching Sean and Nastia at the time, because my
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: mom loves the Olympics. She literally will like stay up
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: for whenever it starts and won't sleep, like literally the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: whole entire time. And so at that time that's what
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: we were doing. In gymnastics was on and so I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: was watching and I was like, Mom, I want to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: do that. I want to become an Olympian. I didn't
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: say what's sport. I just said I wanted to become
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: an Olympian. I wanted to go to the Olympics. And
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: so at that time, I still wasn't really like in gymnastics.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: In gymnastics, I was just playing around, and she was like,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: are you sure, And I was like, yeah, like I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: believe I can get there, and I'm going to be
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: an Olympia now. And so knowing now that the sport
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm in is gymnastics and that I went to the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Olympics and I have an Olympian and all that, it's
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: pretty cool because it's just like when I was younger,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that younger self. Those are just dreams, you know, we
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: all dream we all want to see what happens. We
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: all want to do this. We all want to do that,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and so when this finally came to happen, I was
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: just like wow, Like.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, at that time, if it wasn't going to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: be gymnastics, like what would it even have been.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: She wanted me to do track and field, so it
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: probably would have been track and field, something dealing with
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: like running, or because of how tiny we are, like
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: our family's tiny. I mean I could have done volleyball.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I could have been a Librea, I could have done
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: sincing what.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like running, I mean, running is a part
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: of your sport too.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Let's let's actually talk a little bit
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: about that, right because your sport is so much more
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: than just time like practicing your skill work in the gym.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Talk to us about what a week or so of
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: training could even involve for you a.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Week or so, Oh my goodness, there's so much that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: we do. It just depends. Everybody's schedules are different. For like,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: from my team, we go like we practice twice a
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: day and we do like conditioning, we do cardio. Some
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: days it depends, we might do like basics here and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: there we have some days it might be routines or
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: parts like. It just depends on what that week looks like.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: But on a daily basis, basically we wake up, have practice,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: go to practice, come back, take our nap, go back
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: to practice, come back, eat dinner, and repeat the whole
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: thing over and over again. So that's basically what a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: week looks like, except for on Sundays we don't have practice,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and then Saturday and Thursday we only have one.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: You're not practicing at all. It seems very boring.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: No, not at all, not at all.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: What keeps you motivated right now?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Obviously coming off of the Olympics, do you feel as
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: though you have that same fire to keep practicing and
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: keep going after it or after this tour you kind
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: of looking forward to like a little bit of a break.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Well, actually, I've been practicing this whole time because we
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: kind of are doing skills that are kind of big
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: but kind of not really just things that we can
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: do on like every day because we're on a show.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Well we're on a tour, so you know tours like
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it's like artists they sing almost every day. It's like
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: for us, we had to flip and do that every day.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: So we're practicing this whole time. But afterwards I go
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: off to college, so I have to be prepared for
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that because our season starts in January, so I'm kind
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of starting up, starting up. But you know, we'll see
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: what happens in the future future. I don't know what's
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: gonna happen, but we'll see what happens.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: You're like alluding to the fact that you might be
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: thinking about twenty twenty four, but we're like, not really
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: thinking about that yet.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: We're kind of just gonna feel it out.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we're just gonna take day by day
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and see what happens. You know, I'm not gonna give
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: you a for sure answer, but it's up there. It's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: up there.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Let's flash back then now and talk a little bit
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: about Tokyo. What did it mean for you to even
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: have a spot on this team in a year that
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: was unlike any other?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: It was a huge, huge honor. I definitely I'm known
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: as the underdog in the Black Horse, So being able
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to be put on a team with not only a idle,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: a inspiration, a hero I don't even know what else
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: she is, and then also having three other girls there
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: with us, well four of the girls, how many of
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: us there, there's six of us, four of the girls
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: there that were also amazing as well, Like, I think
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: having the atmosphere that we did was so so, so amazing,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm just happy that I was part of Team
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: USA in this moment because it's definitely going to be
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in history books and it's definitely going to be at
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: an Olympics. A lot of people are going to talk
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: about until who knows when, So it was huge. I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: loved it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: It's so interesting for me to like, in all the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: interviews I've watched with you and listening to podcasts before
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: having the chance to sit down with you today, you
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: truly are a woman that lifts up other woman, And
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's really beautiful how positively you speak about
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: your not only your friendship with Simone, but Simone as
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: your teammate. Sometimes when I'm listening to these interviews, I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: almost want to take a step back and.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Be like, but how are you, Jordan, Like how are you?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: In that I feel as though, and it makes sense
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: right because you guys are teammates, but so much of
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the focus has been on not only like how you
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: performed in the Olympics, but how you performed in the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Olympics because you stepped in for your team. So I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: guess this is kind of like a multifaceted place that
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going with this. But that's really beautiful that you
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: are such a hype woman. Do you ever feel like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you want to make your own path? That's just Jordan.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've thought of it, as thought of it,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but you know, how the world works. It's not about
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: how like I can present myself any type of way,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: but it's how they're gonna take it because a lot
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of the things, they don't know what happens behind the scenes,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and they don't know what a lot of us go through.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: So in my head, yes, I've thought of okay, like
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: let's see what happens if Jordan goes this way, or
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: let's see what happened if Jordan goes this way, But
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it all depends on how my puzzle pieces are supposed
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to be, like put In, and if they fit, they fit,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna take that with me and ride
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: with it. So I mean a lot of the time,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you know, like you said, yes, I'm the hype woman
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of everything, and I love being that and I love
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: being able just to support others in different types of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: ways and just being able to be who I am
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: as a person and doing this for myself, because that's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: literally what I've been doing is everything is for myself.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I don't focus on the outsiders. I don't focus on
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the expectation that I'm supposed to be giving to people.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I just focus on what I want to do for myself.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And if that's being a teammate, a best friend, sister
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: to somebody who's great in the world, I'll do that,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and that's what I want to do because I know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: like i'll support her, I'll do this, I'll do that,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I'll do the other. But everything happens for a reason,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Like that's why I go back to, like everything happens
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: for a reason, And I think this is a pretty
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: cool reason, knowing that I'm best friends with an Olympian
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and somebody who's great in the world and who has
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: changed the world in many different ways, because it gives
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: me an eye and a perspective on what maybe I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: can do in the future and how I can just
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: feel like I change the world, like I've changed multiple
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: different girls, like visuals on how they do their hair,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: on how they present themselves and all that and so
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: just being able to see that from my side, it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. I like it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I love what you said, like being best friends with
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: an Olympia and it's like, hey, you're also an Olympia,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: not just an Olympian, but like a silver medalist.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: But I totally heree you.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's really beautiful that, like, you have this
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: opportunity to have someone in your life that not only
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: supports you but then also inspires you in return. Let
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: us now talk a little bit about what stepping in
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: was like for you. I mean, from you know, the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: couches sing at home, it totally looked like a fight
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: or flight kind of situation.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the most devastating thing I've ever done
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: in my life. I told her, I was like, this
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: is a once in a lifetime thing. I'm never doing
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: this for you again. And she started laughing because it's true,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Like her shoes are so big, and I just wanted
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to make sure I made her proud in those moments.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Just being able to be like, Okay, I'm stepping in
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: for you, like this is crazy. Never thought in the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: world I'd be doing that for anybody in general. And
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: being able just to see like the accomplishment that I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: was able to do that. I definitely thought. I thought,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: because I knew I had to do something. It was
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: for the team, it was for her, It's for the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: world to see, like, no matter what happens, TMUSA is
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a fight, like we're fighters, no matter what. It was
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: so devastating. My heart was aching because at the same
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: time I wanted to do it with her. I wanted
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to compete with her, competing as well, but you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: having her there supporting us and being able to say, Okay,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you guys, you got this, you can do this, you
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: can do that, like I'm here for you was definitely
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a different perspective on us because we never got to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: see her in that position. She's always the one doing this,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: doing that, and we're like, okay, like you got this,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you got this. But having the role switch was definitely
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a huge thing, and I think that really opened a
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: lot of people's eyes, like she's more than just Simon Wiles,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and so I think it was it was pretty cool
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: for me just to be like, Okay, I'm in your position,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: like what do I do now?
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: But definitely how do the clips? Again? Can someone just
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: remind me?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: It was definitely scary. Scary, but scary, yeah, I was.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: But I'm happy, you know, I'm happy that she was
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: able to see a different side and that we were
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: able to help her because I felt like we helped her,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you know, That's what I think. I don't know, I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: can't speak for the other girls, but I feel like
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: we helped her and we were able just to be like, Okay,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: we support you, how you're supporting us.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Give us a little bit more of like a read
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: or a vibe of like what it was like to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: be on the floor in that arena.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: It was definitely a gym come true. It felt like
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I was in a fairy tale. At first, I didn't
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: know what was going on. I was just like, oh
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: my goodness, like where am I? But then when I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: realized after Team Finals and what we were going through
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and how everything ended up, it definitely was like, Okay,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not in a dream anymore. This is actually real lifetime,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and I'm very very happy where I am. And I'm
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: very happy that I was able to even be out
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: there on that floor just representing Teamy. I say, you know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. My vibe. Obviously, you guys saw
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I was pumped, I was high, I was just out there.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But you know, at the end of the day, it
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: was all about making sure we were going to stay
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: together and just support each other no matter what we
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: were going through.
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• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Happy Hot. He's everyone.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Probably our whole other vibe. Actually being handed the silver metal.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I mean that that was a.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Huge thing for us as well, because I don't I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: really don't even know like what was going through everybody's
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: brains after Floor and even after Vault in general, because
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: we were just like, okay, guys, we just gotta go
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: out there hit do whatever we need to do and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: hope that we medal. And just being able to say
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that we got a silver medal and knowing that we
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: did it with all of our heart and joy and
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: our passion was it was amazing. That silver metal was
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: like my shield. Lets me know, like, Okay, all that
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: ache and pain and stress you went through in the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: past and in the moments and all that is definitely
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: like it shielded in that metal. So I'm just really
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: excited and I'm happy that we were able to do
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: what we did out there, because that was a lie.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It was stressful, but you know, we fought.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll never forget.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like I was like making coffee on the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: morning that you were on the Today Show. I think
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: it was like that maybe the day after you won
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: silver when they like sprung Michael Phelps on you.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Yes, it was on the Today Show.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: We had to do our end.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: That moment lives ren free in my mind of like
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: me thinking about being twenty years old and like being
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: offered like like a superhero, like on a silver platter
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: in front of like all of America.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: That was crazy. I literally was just like in awe
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: because they had told us, they told us he was there,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: but I was like, is there any way I could
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: meet him? And they were like, well, we can see
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: what we can do. And I was like okay. So
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I was sitting there and they offered us sushi or
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: whatever or something like that, and I was like, Okay,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: we're sitting there, Dada, we're gonna eat sushi, We're gonna
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: do this. And the next thing, you know, he just
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: pops up and I was like, oh my gosh, my
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Mom's probably gonna kill me. Like it just it just
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: came out. I was like, oh, what did I just say?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Because I was so starstruck that he was standing right
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: in front of me.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I loved witnessing this aside from Phelps, Like, was there
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: anyone else on the ground in Tokyo that you came
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: into contact with and you were like, oh my god.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: We met the softball team and they did. They were,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: first off, they're really tall.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeahay, compared to you guys, I was like, oh.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: My gosh, my nay. But yeah, we met, like the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: softball team. There's obviously a lot of people that I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: wish I could have met, but you know, the whole
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: COVID protocols that we had to do, and we weren't
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: staying in the Olympic village and all that stuff, so
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I think he was the only one.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe it a little challenging.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of was. But at the same time,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy that we were able just to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: be in our own little world because we kind of
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: were there. We were there longer than everybody else, basically
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: because we were there before the Olympics even started, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: we ended to a day before closing ceremony, so it
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: was like we were everywhere. Even if we tried to
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: find people and meet them, it would have been too.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Hard and you had to quarantine for the full time
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: once you got there.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, we had a quarantine and we had to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: do spit tubes every morning.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Spit tubes talk sweet, so literally just spitting into a
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: tube and then they test it for COVID and then
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: you go about your day.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was really nasty.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: What's the uh, what's like the COVID protocol right now?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: For you on the tour?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: So basically we have to be masked the whole time,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: like right now, like when we're out and about. Even
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: if the state or whatever has their own code protocols
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and they don't have to wear a mask, we still
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: have to wear a mask due to as we're still
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: traveling and all that. We don't want any of us
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to get COVID. We all stay in our own rooms,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: we all have like different buses. We can't go on
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: to each other's buses basically, like we can do like
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: like if we want to go out to eat, we
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: can go do that, but we just have to be masked.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: If we leave to like a different state, say like
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: we have an off day and we have to go
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: do like a photo shoot or something somewhere else, we
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: have to get tested when we get back.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: So I do want to pivot a little bit right
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: now and talk a little bit.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, you were saying earlier that you know that
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you've had the opportunity to inspire so many young women
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: in so many different ways. For you coming into your
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: own I cannot even imagine how I would have navigated
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: being twenty years old and having so many eyes on me.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: So I want to talk to you a little bit.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I guess about that and what it's been like for
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you to come into your own with again just kind
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: of being a little bit under a magnifying glass.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I haven't really thought of it that way.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: How do you? How do you think about it?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I mean personally, like a lot of people, when people
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: are like, oh my gosh, you're so famous, you're this,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you're that, I like, look at them, like, huh, who
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: are you talking about? Because I don't even consider myself famous.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I barely consider myself an Olympian at this moment. Like
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: even when I say, I'm like that's me, Like what,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Like I okay? Cool. So when when people like say
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you're my idol, you're my inspiration, you're my hero, You've
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: helped me through tough times, this, that and the other,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: it's like a really really like heartwarming situation that I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: love because it makes me feel like, Okay, when I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: was younger, it was hard for me to find the
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: things that you guys found in me. So it was
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: definitely like it was like they're like trigger moments. I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, like you felt that like
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: what I did, You felt that in you, Like it
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: took me a while just to even find out for myself.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool. It's pretty amazing that I have
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: little ones looking up to me and being like, oh
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: my gosh, you're my favorite, Like you've helped me discover
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like I can do this with my hair and this,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and like it's pretty cool just to realize, like, wow,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I've put a huge impact on a lot of girls out.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: There, So you keep coming back to the hair moment. Yes,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: can we talk about that a little bit, like why
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: is it the hair moment for you?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: So when I was younger, I went to an all
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: white school and every single girl just loved touching my
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: hair and I never knew why, and it kind of
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: made me feel like, okay, like you guys need to
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: stop touching my hair, Like okay, I get it, it's
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: curly cool, whatever. And I didn't really like embrace my
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: curls at that moment because of that, and so I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: always wanted my hair straight, always wanted it straight, and
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: it was something that my mom didn't like because she
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: was like, your curls are so beautiful this time. I'm like,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and then I would tell her, but people are touching it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I don't like it, and da da dah and all
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: this stuff. So it took me a while to really
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: embrace my own curls until my very first competition and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I wore a poof and all of a sudden, it
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: was just like Jordan Child's new hair, this that, and
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: little girls doing this, doing that, and I was just like, mom,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Because I was young. I was like
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: thirteen at that time, so I was like, what's going on?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And she was like, your poof inspired young younger girls
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: out there to let their hair do what they want
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: to do and not go against like and not having
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: in a bun and do this. And I was like,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: oh okay. Still didn't think of anything until recently, like
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: maybe three four years ago. I was just like, you
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna keep embracing it and see
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: what happens. And ever since then, girls have been coming
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: up to me, Jordan, you. I love how you did
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: your hair this time and this time, and I've done tribal,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I've done this, I've done that because it's like, my
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: hair is my crown and it's my beauty and I'm
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: gonna take that with me when whatever I do. And
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: that's basically how how the younger girls saw it, as in,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: if Jordan can do this, I'm gonna do it too.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: You mentioned you mentioned earlier going to college. Talk to
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: me a little bit about how you feel about that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I don't even think like I can't
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: wait personally like I cannot wait. I can't wait just
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to be able to go out there and have that
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: college experience and being able to be with the team
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and exploring new things and making new friends and doing
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even know like what college people do basically,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna be fun. I can't wait
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to finally start competing for them UCLA. The Bruins have
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: always been since I was I don't know, eighth grade.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Whenever you're how old are you then? Thirteen? For twelve thirteen? Yeah,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: that's how long I had been with UCLA.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Amazing. I mean, it sounds like it's going to be
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: so good.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: And do you expect that you'll still be able to
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: see your family a lot being over in California?
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Or I can only tell you my family's gonna be
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: there all the time. I'm the youngest of five, so
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a constant. I'm coming to LA
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: this week because that they have nobody no more kids.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Such a big theme for USA Gymnastics this year talking
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: about mental health. Do you feel as though, because this
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: conversation has kind of come to the forefront, that there
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: are more resources available to you or do you feel
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: still like it's your responsibility to seek them out.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: A lot of the time. So I don't even know.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Way back when they offered a sports psychologists to help
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: with whatever we need. And it was kind of like,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: if you want to do it, you do it. If
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you don't, then you don't. But after without dealing with
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: USAG and all that and just going on about like
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: what you want to do, it's what you want to do.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Nobody can control if you want to go to a
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: sports psychologist, if you want to go to therapy, if
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: you want to do this, if you want to do that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: It should be all based on what you want to do,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and so they really take that into consideration, like I'm
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: not going to force this person to do this or
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: give you this team and think that this team is
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: good for you. It's all about like, Okay, this is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: what I want to do, just how I want to
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: do it, and that's it. So it just depends on
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: who you want to be. Like, for instance, me personally
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: my sports psychologist, I was just like, okay, this is
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: this is how long I want to do it, and
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: this is how long I need you for and then
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I'll see if I want to come back. And she
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: was like okay, So it like like I said, it
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: just depends on who you are.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I would say, uh, it's pretty cool that you've had
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to do something like that, and it's super
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: interesting in today's climate where so many experts will say
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: that taking the time to quote unquote exercise your mental
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: health or deal with your mental health is just as important,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: if not more important, than spending that time in the gym.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. Like I said before, our mind tells our
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: body what to do, so if our minds aren't in
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the right position, we could get hurt, like really really
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: bad or even like not have an amazing practice. So
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: mental health is something that a lot of us do
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: go through because you never, like gymnasis is a crucial
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and drama sport, like it's really really bad, but being able.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of the girls at my gym go see
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: a sports psychologist and they're younger than me only because
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: of what they've gone through, and so they need to
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: be able to speak out and speak to somebody who
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: can understand and feel like, Okay, this person knows what
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going through type, so you know, it just it
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: just depends. I mean, I know a lot of people
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: who are older than me and are still going to
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the sports psychologists because it's not just an athletes, it's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: in everybody. Everybody has something that's mentally will they say
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: something no, But I feel like a lot of the
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: time you can feel it from somebody, and that's what
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: That's how I am. Like if I feel like something's
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: not right with you, and then two days later you're
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: just like, oh my goodness, Like I I was so
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: not in the right like because I felt that, and
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I can be like, oh, yeah, I know, I felt
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: that from you. So that's how it is with me. Yeah,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I can feel when people are in the not really
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: in their right mind.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Half the time, you have that intuition. You have that
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: intuition now going forward. I mean you had spoken about
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: having a negative experience with coaches in the past. Talk
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: to me about who you're working with now and perhaps
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: maybe who you'll be working with at UCLA.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: So right now, my coaches are Laurent and Ciscil from
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: they go to WCC, and it's been amazing. They literally
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: brought the love of the sport back to me and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I was able to actually feel comfortable speaking up and
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: saying this and saying that, and just being able to
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: actually have fun with my sport. They're amazing coaches. I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: wouldn't change the world for them because literally it was
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a fun, fun ride to have them with me on
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: my journey and just feeling like I was able to
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: do something again. So I love them to death like
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: a lot. I'm gonna miss them, but you know, I
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: gotta move on. I gotta move on. And then yes, yes,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and then for UCLA. Chris Waller is the head coach
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: of the UCLA gymnastics team, so I've known him since
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I was little as well. And it's gonna be it's
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be really fun. We're gonna see what we can
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: do with the team and how everything gets put out
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: there and how lineups go and competitions and all that.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be really fun. Hopefully we'll do big
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: things for the NCAA's and all that, and I can't
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: wait to finally be on that that solid soil.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that everyone's going to be rooting for
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: you to do just that. When you think right now,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I mean when I go to your social media page,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I look at you. Obviously, everyone knows you to be
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Jordan Chiles, the silver medalist, the gymnast, Simon Bile's best friend.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: You've got a hell of a lot of followers. Four
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: hundred and fourty one thousand people. When you look in
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the mirror, what is it that you see looking back
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: at you?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: A little girl who had big dreams that are finally
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: coming true.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just got kill. What other goals do you
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: have on the horizon? I mean, i'd say that going
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: to the Olympics is a pretty big one. But what
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: else excites you right now? What else are you excited
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: to go after?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to get into acting and stunt doubling,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, there's like a lot of things
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: that I want to do. I want to be in
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: a Marvel movie. A lot of people say my voice
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: can be in like a cartoon, so I don't know
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: what they said. I would be really like really good
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: at voiceovers, and I was like, what, okay, anyways.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Well, Jordan, people used to tell me that, and then
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: I started a podcast, so maybe you're going to start
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: a podcast.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'll start a podcast. I want to get
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: into I mean, I do have my own business and everything,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: so I want to continue the business part of it.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm going to be majoring in his business
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: for school, which is a lot of people keep telling
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: me that's so hard. I'm like, I like math, so
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I think I should be fine. And then I want
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: to get into like hopefully real estate one day. That's
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: something that I kind of have been thinking about. My
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: mom's an interior designer, so hopefully like we can like
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: put our two works together and make do really big things.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: So I think that'd be really cool.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I love the array of things here, like business, major, stunt, double,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: real estate.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I'm an all the way. I'm all everything type of girl.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I love the entertainment side. One thing that I really
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: want to do, though, is be a backup dancer for
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: somebody or even in a music.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Day stop it, yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I really like I really want to be a backup
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: dancer for just someone. I don't care, like, I just
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: want to be a backup dancer or be in a
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: music video. That's something that I've just always wanted to
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: do because I think it's cool. I don't know it just.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: It is cool. It is cool. Wait, but if you could,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: if you could pick anyone, who you going with? Normany
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, I love this Breeze.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: She's like she's literally my favorite artist. Like I don't know,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're like ever since fifth harmony days.
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  Speaker 1: When I look at her, she looks a lot like
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  Speaker 1: my cousin on my dad's side for some reason, well
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. So ever, since then, I've thought
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I was related to her. So, you know, I just
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  Speaker 1: had to say it. I just had to put it
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  Speaker 1: out there.
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  Speaker 3: Natural fit, all right, Normani. If this gets to your people.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Childs wants in your next video, yes, and you
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  Speaker 2: speaking into existence, you know how it works.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to ask you. As we kind of
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: finish up here. You mentioned again being having this opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to be a role model for so many young women.
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  Speaker 2: When you think about some of the biggest lessons that
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: you've learned over this past year, what is it that
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  Speaker 2: you want to tell them to.
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  Speaker 1: Never give up, to always thrive for something bigger, and
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  Speaker 1: just to realize, like, no matter what is being thrown
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  Speaker 1: at you or the expectations, to know that you're doing
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  Speaker 1: it for yourself and not for anybody else, and you know,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: just have fun with it. I'm all about fun. That's literally,
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  Speaker 1: like my motto is fun fun fun, Like just go
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: out there, have fun, do what you love, and you
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  Speaker 1: should be able to enjoy the rest of your career
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  Speaker 1: and what you want to do in life. I mean
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I say that for everybody, like literally everybody, not just athletes,
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  Speaker 1: like artists in different types of way, like just go
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  Speaker 1: out there and have fun because you never know what's
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: going to happen in the future. You never know if
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: this is going to be your last chance. You never
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  Speaker 1: know if this is going to be something that you'll
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: never do again. So you just want to go out there,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: have fun with it and enjoy the moments that you
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: have and experiences. I can even say my favorite quote
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: is my own quote that I made up, is always
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  Speaker 1: believe in the power of your dreams. Your dreams are
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  Speaker 1: bigger than you think, and if you believe hard enough,
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  Speaker 1: they'll come true. So that's what I got to say.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good one. It's a good one. It's a
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: good one. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're great at offering advice. I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 2: you for one last piece of it right now.
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  Speaker 3: You have an.
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  Speaker 2: Opportunity to give the Jordan in twenty seventeen when she
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: was like, Nope, I'm out, I want nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with this one piece of advice. Looking back on that
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: hurdle moment, right now, what do you tell her.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: You believed you could and so you did.
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  Speaker 3: Killing it.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Closing the podcast with the banger, Jordan, how do the
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: hurdlers keep up with you? How do they follow along
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: with you? Give us all of your details.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I have Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and TikTok. You guys can
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram at Jordan Chiles, on Twitter at
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Chiles Jordan on Facebook. I have two Facebook accounts. One
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: is my personal and one is my fan page, but
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: they're both Jordan Childs and then on TikTok at Jordan Chiles,
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  Speaker 1: it will come up as baby Joe and I'm still
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: that person.
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  Speaker 3: So you've been killing it on the top.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: You inspire me to talk more.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, if you gotta If you gotta talk, you gotta.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: You gotta do it the right way. You just gotta
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: put your fist in it. You'll do good. You'll have fun.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I actually have so much it, like I literally have some.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I think that's like what it's supposed to be about. Though.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Right I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Podcast Another Hurdle Conquered.
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  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time
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  Speaker 2: In my