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Hour 2 - Remorseful Ruggs · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 1: Oh what is going on? I hope you're enjoying your
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Speaker 1: early Wednesday morning. So ball on the brain, a couple
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Speaker 1: of NFL things to throw your way vengeance in just a.
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Speaker 2: Couple of minutes.
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Speaker 1: So the NFL is going to play a game in Dublin, Ireland.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the Vikings and the Steelers on September
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Speaker 1: twenty eighth, and so the NFL opened it up where
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Speaker 1: you can you can try to score tickets online. There
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Speaker 1: were over six hundred thousand people in the ticket q
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Speaker 1: trying to score tickets for the game. Over six hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand people. Now, think about this. This is where it's headed.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many years it's going to take
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Speaker 1: to get there, but I'm pretty sure the NFL is
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Speaker 1: going to get there Eventually. There's going to be an
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Speaker 1: eighteen game schedule for every team in the league. And
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Speaker 1: my guess is every team once a year will play
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Speaker 1: a game internationally. You can't tell me the NFL. The
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Speaker 1: NFL thinks big. They don't look at this and say,
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Speaker 1: oh wow, six hundred people in the ticket queue, Hey,
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Speaker 1: high five, high fives all around, let's go good day,
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Speaker 1: all right. They think, ooh, how can we maximize this, right,
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Speaker 1: they think to the max degree. So what they're going
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Speaker 1: to do And there have been whispers about this, of course,
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Speaker 1: the eighteen game schedule. There have been more and more
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Speaker 1: whispers here and there. Goodall has said it like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think an eighteen game schedule makes a
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Speaker 1: lot of sense.
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Speaker 2: That sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: It's only a matter of time until the NFL dangles
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Speaker 1: enough carrots.
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Speaker 2: And the players are like, wait, how much can we make?
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Speaker 1: All right, cool, let's do it, and it's gonna open
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Speaker 1: the door to more international games being played. They're trying
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Speaker 1: to grow the game globally, which really means it's a
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Speaker 1: fancy way of saying they're trying to make as much
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Speaker 1: cash as humanly possible. Like growing the game globally with
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Speaker 1: quotations the whole time means how can we line our
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Speaker 1: pockets with more of that international cash?
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Speaker 2: That's what they're really saying, and they're gonna do it.
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Speaker 1: We've got what seven international games this upcoming season and
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Speaker 1: in multiple places with Germany, Spain, you got the London games,
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Speaker 1: Ireland in there. Like you're starting to see more and
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Speaker 1: more places. It's not just hey, we're going to London
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Speaker 1: once Hey, we're going to London twice. It's like, no,
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Speaker 1: They're going all the way around, and I think they're
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Speaker 1: just gonna keep going down that road.
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Speaker 2: Which, hey, I get.
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Speaker 1: I think it makes a lot of sense financially, you know,
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Speaker 1: brand building overseas. I have no issue with it. I
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Speaker 1: really don't. I know it can be hard on the players.
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Speaker 2: The Vikings.
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Speaker 1: They play two in international games back to back. That's uncommon.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever happened before. And so that's
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Speaker 1: why I go back to I was mentioning last night,
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Speaker 1: that's why the Vikings are just so fascinating to me.
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Speaker 1: Just for a minute, let's dip our toes in the
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Speaker 1: Vikings waters again. But that's another reason where that's uncommon
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Speaker 1: to play two international games back to back. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're not gonna travel to Dublin and then travel back
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Speaker 1: and then travel to London and travel back.
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Speaker 2: They're not gonna do that. But still, it's uncommon to.
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Speaker 1: Be away that long, to have back to back international
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Speaker 1: games while you're breaking in a first year starting quarterback.
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, the boom er bust nature of
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Speaker 1: what the Viking season could be like, I'm all about it.
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Speaker 1: I'm very interested in seeing how it plays out for them,
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Speaker 1: and how well JJ McCarthy plays or how shaky he plays.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna make a huge difference. While we're talking about quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: let me switch gears and let me focus on the
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Speaker 1: team that's also from the AFC North. We're just talking
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Speaker 1: about the Vikings and Steelers playing that game in Dublin
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Speaker 1: that six hundred thousand people are trying to get tickets to.
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Speaker 1: But another team in the AFC North would be the
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens.
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Speaker 2: How about Lamar Jackson.
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Speaker 1: He's honestly still not over the playoff loss to the Bills,
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Speaker 1: still ticked off about that thing. He met with the
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Speaker 1: with some reporters after the Ravens Mini CAAP practice on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: Also Ravens quarterbacks coach Tem Martin. He described the playoff
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Speaker 1: defeat to the Bills for Jackson as a quote deep
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Speaker 1: felt loss, deep felt loss. Yes, you can imagine why.
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Speaker 1: That was a tough one man, very very tough loss.
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Speaker 2: This was Lamar.
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Speaker 1: I love how he put it right using that loss
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Speaker 1: as motivation for this season. Here's what he says as
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Speaker 1: about getting even if you will, we don't.
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Speaker 3: Bounce back and we've come back. I feel like we're
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Speaker 3: gonna have vengeans on our man.
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Speaker 2: What a statement. I love that statement. I feel like
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have vengeance on our mind. Let's go.
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Speaker 1: That sounds like a New Slayer album right there. Vengeance
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Speaker 1: on our mind. Absolutely put that on a T shirt.
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Speaker 1: That is beautiful.
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Speaker 2: Love that and also what Lamar said about the playoff
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Speaker 2: loss to the Bills. This is one of the things
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Speaker 2: I love about Lamar.
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Speaker 1: Lamar will look at what he did wrong first, compared
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Speaker 1: to looking at what a teammate did wrong first, and
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Speaker 1: instead of looking at Mark Andrews had a costly drop
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Speaker 1: on a two point conversion would have tied the game.
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Speaker 2: He's not talking about.
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Speaker 1: That at all. Here's what Lamar is talking about in
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Speaker 1: terms of that playoff loss to the Bills last season.
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Speaker 3: I felt like when we protected the ball, we had
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Speaker 3: no problems moving the ball down the field, you know,
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Speaker 3: first second down, we get positive yards out of every play,
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Speaker 3: you know, just the turnovers, no turnovers. I feel like
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Speaker 3: we win.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I hear him on that, and I do love that
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Speaker 1: he's basically pointing to himself because Lamar had a bad interception,
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Speaker 1: he had a really costly fumble in that game, and
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Speaker 1: the Ravens came all the way back and had a
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Speaker 1: chance to tie it didn't get it done. But to
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Speaker 1: Lamar's point, he's like, he's basically saying, if I protected
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Speaker 1: the ball and played better, we probably win that game.
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Speaker 1: That's what he's really saying. But I just love that
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Speaker 1: he's not throwing a teammate under the bus. He's just
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Speaker 1: looking at what he should have and could have done better.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's a mature stance. That's a mature outlook
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Speaker 1: from Lamar. And the funny thing with Lamar is I
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Speaker 1: don't know I feel, and you can disagree with me
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Speaker 1: or correct me if you think I'm wrong on this,
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Speaker 1: But I.
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Speaker 2: Think that Lamar.
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Speaker 1: Is he's treated with gloves by a lot of people
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Speaker 1: because I think they don't want to be viewed as
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Speaker 1: just Lamar haters.
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Speaker 2: You know, when you think about when Lamar.
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Speaker 1: Before he stepped foot into the NFL, he was doubted
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Speaker 1: by a lot of people. There are a lot of
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Speaker 1: comments like should he play wide receiver? Is he good
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Speaker 1: enough to play quarterback? Yeah, he just want a heisman?
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Speaker 2: But is he good enough to play quarterback?
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Speaker 1: It looks ridiculous, right, now right, he's a two time MVP,
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Speaker 1: arguably should have been a three time MVP.
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Speaker 2: His numbers last season were sick. Have you seen his numbers?
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Speaker 1: The stats he put up through for nearly forty two
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Speaker 1: hundred yards last season with forty one touchdown passes and
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Speaker 1: only four interceptions. His passer rating was a scoch under
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Speaker 1: one P twenty.
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Speaker 2: It was one nineteen point six.
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Speaker 4: Oh.
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Speaker 1: By the way, he also rushed for over nine hundred
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Speaker 1: yards with four touchdowns there too, So all together, passing
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Speaker 1: and rushing he accounted for over five thousand yards with
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Speaker 1: forty five touchdowns and four interceptions.
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Speaker 2: Those numbers are absurd.
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Speaker 1: But once again, when the playoffs rolled around, Lamar made
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Speaker 1: another early exit.
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Speaker 2: Lost of the Bills again.
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Speaker 1: Lost of them early in his career. Threw a pick
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Speaker 1: six that was around COVID when no one was in
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Speaker 1: the stands, That threw a pick six in a very
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Speaker 1: low scoring game that swung the game in the Bills direction.
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Speaker 1: And then this last one he just meant and in
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Speaker 1: his own words he mentioned, like we don't turn the
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Speaker 1: ball over, I feel like we win that game.
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Speaker 2: And that's the thing I feel like.
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Speaker 1: I feel like one Lamar doesn't get a ton of
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Speaker 1: haters because he is well accomplished.
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Speaker 2: He's a two time MVP.
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Speaker 1: That's a weird That's a tricky thing right there, because
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Speaker 1: it can go one of two ways. Oftentimes, the more
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Speaker 1: you accomplish, the more is expected. Think about like Dirk
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Speaker 1: Noavitsky won an MVP and he had to get the
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Speaker 1: award in like a back closet somewhere because they were
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Speaker 1: already eliminated from the playoffs at a first round exit.
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Speaker 1: And then it was like, here, Dirk, here's your MVP trophy.
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Speaker 2: Man, this is awkward.
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Speaker 1: We've been bounced from the playoffs and we're giving you
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Speaker 1: the trophy. And all anyone would say is like, ah,
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Speaker 1: what a joke. Where are the wins? Where are the rings?
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Speaker 1: So it often goes that way. The more that you accomplish,
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Speaker 1: the more we expect. But I feel like with Lamar,
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Speaker 1: maybe it slightly swings a different way where it's more
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Speaker 1: of a rare case where the more he's accomplished it
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Speaker 1: allows it cuts him a little bit of slack with
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Speaker 1: the latest playoff loss.
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Speaker 2: Maybe.
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Speaker 1: But what I really think is I do think a
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Speaker 1: lot of it traces back to before the NFL Draft,
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Speaker 1: Like this is a taste of the twenty eighteen Combine
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Speaker 1: all these questions Lamar is answering about, like maybe working
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Speaker 1: out as a wide receiver.
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Speaker 2: Check this out, just to.
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Speaker 4: Make sure that we're clear on this.
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Speaker 2: No one has asked you at all to work out
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Speaker 2: with the wide receiver groupment okay, and that's not on
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Speaker 2: the table.
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be a receiver tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: If your teams did ask you to do that.
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Speaker 5: Would you do it?
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Speaker 1: Quite a bit, he's having to answer those questions. There
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Speaker 1: were three back to back to.
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Speaker 2: Back right there. You're gonna work out?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 1: You know, has anybody asked you no? And he desired no?
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Speaker 1: Man Q b read my lips quarter back?
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Speaker 4: All right?
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Speaker 2: How about that? And I think that a lot.
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Speaker 1: Of the the lack of just wide spread criticism. Think
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Speaker 1: about some of these quarterbacks in the league right now
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Speaker 1: that are widely criticized, Dak Prescott widely criticized.
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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, we.
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Speaker 1: Were like the playoff wins Herbert, Where are they with Lamar?
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's totally fair to say that too.
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Speaker 1: Lamar is three and five in the postseason as a
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Speaker 1: two time MVP.
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Speaker 2: That's not good enough.
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Speaker 1: And he'd be the first one to tell you that
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott he's two and five in the playoffs and
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Speaker 1: that record is tied for the worst by a quarterback
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Speaker 1: in NFL history with a minimum of five starts. Dak
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Speaker 1: Prescott is tied for the worst playoff record at two
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Speaker 1: and five.
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Speaker 2: Lamar is three and five.
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Speaker 1: Not worlds better than Dak Prescott's record, right think how
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Speaker 1: Dak gets crushed, and some would argue, rightfully so compared
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Speaker 1: to Lamar, Lamar doesn't get half the criticism that Dak
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Speaker 1: Prescott gets. And let all things be equal, Let Dak
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Speaker 1: be a two time MVP. Let Dak lose the playoff
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Speaker 1: games the same way Lamar has lost them. Dak would
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Speaker 1: get crushed and Lamar largely escapes a lot of that
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Speaker 1: just were like venom criticism, like harsh criticism. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: get it.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like a lot of.
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Speaker 1: People don't want to be branded as just haters like
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Speaker 1: Lamar had a lot of haters before he was drafted,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: Really really were bent about that.
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Speaker 1: They thought it was possibly like a little bit racist,
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Speaker 1: They thought it was completely unfair. He totally proved the
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Speaker 1: doubters wrong and they were vocal about it. The Lamar
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Speaker 1: supporters were vocal about him being a quote unquote wide
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Speaker 1: receiver prospect and how much of a joke that was.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, I really do respect Lamar because
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Speaker 1: as a two time MVP who was widely doubted before
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Speaker 1: he was drafted in the NFL as a quarterback, he
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Speaker 1: could have easily shoved that in our faces time and
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Speaker 1: time and time again, at least shoved it in the
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Speaker 1: faces of the critics, like the same draft.
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Speaker 2: If Baker Mayfield like who I like as well?
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Speaker 1: If Baker Mayfield, He's got a lot more likable over
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Speaker 1: the years. Baker Mayfield used to drive me crazy. He
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Speaker 1: just got involved in the drama. He was everything that
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Speaker 1: was basically the opposite of Caitlyn Clark. You know, like
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark gets involved in all this drama, Like the
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Speaker 1: drama just follows her. All these WNBA haters are just like, ah,
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Speaker 1: this girl, and she's the one driving the ratings.
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Speaker 2: This shouldn't be the way it is.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to take out all my aggression on her,
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Speaker 1: and Caitlyn's like, you know what, high road, high road,
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Speaker 1: high road. I feel like Baker got sucked into the drama.
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Speaker 1: You know, there are allowed critics of Baker Mayfield, and
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Speaker 1: he didn't have a chip on his shoulder. He had
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Speaker 1: a mountain on his shoulder. He's trying to prove everybody wrong.
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Speaker 1: I think that got in his way. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that helped him. I think it hurt him. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: Baker's become a lot more likable, got to Tampa better,
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Speaker 1: supporting cast, put up numbers. Feels feel like he's a
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Speaker 1: lot more likable than he used to be. The point is,
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Speaker 1: if Baker Mayfield, if he were the one rattling off
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Speaker 1: two MVPs and arguably should have been a three time
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Speaker 1: MVP with all the critics he faced earlier in his career,
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Speaker 1: he never would have shut up about that. You know
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Speaker 1: as well as I do. Baker would have been like you.
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Speaker 2: Doubted me, you thought I couldn't do it? Boom, what
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Speaker 2: do you know? MVP? Boom another MVP? What do you
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Speaker 2: have to say?
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Speaker 1: Oh? He wouldn He would have been insufferable. And Lamar
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Speaker 1: never was like that. Lamar he never shoved it in
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Speaker 1: our faces. I really respect him for that because Lamar
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Speaker 1: he really is. He has more of a team first
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Speaker 1: attitude instead of Hey, I need my individual props. You
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Speaker 1: should be taking everything back. Remember when you said I
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Speaker 1: should have been a wide receiver.
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Speaker 2: I didn't forget that. He hasn't thrown that back out there.
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Speaker 2: He's just like, I'm focused on winning.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: He just shoved all that to the side. He brushed
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Speaker 1: it off. He's like whatever. I respect him for that.
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Speaker 1: We got to see some playoff wins. Man, you can't
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Speaker 1: be arguably we should have been a three time MVP
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Speaker 1: and have three playoff wins. Gotta be way, way, way
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Speaker 1: better than that. And he's accountable, right. You heard in
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Speaker 1: the sound he's like, hey, if we don't turn the
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Speaker 1: ball over, which really means if I don't turn the
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Speaker 1: ball over, would probably win that game. So he's owned it.
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Speaker 1: I respect him for that. But listen, I would say this,
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Speaker 1: just state your opinion. I think Lamar has to win
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Speaker 1: more playoff games. I think that Lamar when the playoffs
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Speaker 1: roll around, is the most overrated player in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing personal there. I just told you. I like
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Speaker 1: the guy. I like how he carries himself. I like
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Speaker 1: how he's team first. But you can't be that accomplished
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Speaker 1: in the regular season and wet yourself time and time
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Speaker 1: and time again in the playoffs. It can't It's not
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Speaker 1: good enough. He'd be the first one to tell you that.
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Speaker 1: But it's like, why would you shy away from that?
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Speaker 1: Just say what you think instead of like, oh, someone
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Speaker 1: might think that I really just like this guy and
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Speaker 1: I'm the latest hater and what what.
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Speaker 2: Are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Just say what you think and don't worry if someone
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Speaker 1: like takes it for something that it isn't. I don't know, man,
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Speaker 1: I just think there's too much sugarcoating these days and
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Speaker 1: a lot of shying away from stuff.
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Speaker 2: I respect Lamar. I like Lamar a lot.
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Speaker 1: I think he oftentimes turns into a pumpkin in the postseason.
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Speaker 1: He's got all the talent in the world to change that,
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Speaker 1: but until he does, he's an overrated player. When we
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Speaker 1: get to the postseason, the time that really matters, we'll
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Speaker 1: see if he turns that around. All right. Coming up next,
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So Henry Ruggs the Third is
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Speaker 1: in the news again. He was at an event on
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Speaker 1: Tuesday night. It's a special release from prison. He was
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Speaker 1: on special release from prison and so on Tuesday night
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Speaker 1: he spoke at a Hope for Prisoners event in Las Vegas,
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Speaker 1: and at that event he apologized to the family of
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Speaker 1: a woman he killed in a car crash that was
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Speaker 1: nearly four years ago. And here to help us talk
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Speaker 1: about that, Brian Horwath from The Vegas Journal Vegas Review
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Speaker 1: Journal joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Brian, you
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Speaker 1: are at this event on Tuesday night. First off, welcome Inn.
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Speaker 1: How would you describe what that event was like with
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Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs the Third there, Well.
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Speaker 5: It was interesting. I mean, he really has it's spoken
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Speaker 5: out at all since really his sentencing a few years ago.
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Speaker 5: So it was interesting. He was contrite. He was apologetic
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Speaker 5: to the family of Tina Tintor, who of course died
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Speaker 5: in that fiery crash back in November.
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Speaker 6: Of twenty twenty one, and you know, he also said
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Speaker 6: he said a couple things that were pretty interesting, including
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Speaker 6: that he would like to play football again and even
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Speaker 6: possibly for the Raiders.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if that's ever going to be a
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Speaker 5: realistic possibility, but he's certainly thinking about trying to get
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Speaker 5: in the NFL again once he gets out. He'll be
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Speaker 5: eligible for parole in August of next year, so that's
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Speaker 5: the soonest that he would he would get out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Interesting, And I was thinking about this, Brian, with the
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Speaker 1: possibility of Henry Ruggs being released and wanting to play
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Speaker 1: football again, is anything it's put you on the spot.
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Speaker 1: Is there anything comparable in NFL history where someone did time,
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Speaker 1: came back and played again.
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Speaker 2: Can you think of anything off the top of your head.
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we were talking about this earlier. Was it
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Speaker 5: in the early two thousands or the late nineties. If
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Speaker 5: you remember, there's a player I think his name was
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Speaker 5: Leonard Little I played with the Saint Louis ram and
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Speaker 5: I think he was the same kind of situation. He
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Speaker 5: was in a dy crashing, drinking and driving. Somebody died
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Speaker 5: in that crash. I want to say he did come
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Speaker 5: back and play after that. But but certainly, I mean
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Speaker 5: this would be, if not unprecedented, it's certainly very rare.
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Speaker 5: But you know, just looking at I mean, we're in
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Speaker 5: the room with Henry tonight in Las Vegas and basically
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Speaker 5: in this conference room, and boy, he looks good, he
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Speaker 5: looks healthy, he looks basically ripped. I mean, you gotta remember,
19:59
Speaker 5: this guy's only twenty six years old. So look, if
20:03
Speaker 5: a team wanted to give him a chance, I mean,
20:05
Speaker 5: I don't know, there's a lot of baggage there, but
20:09
Speaker 5: he certainly had a lot of talent. I mean in
20:11
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, I think he played seven or eight
20:14
Speaker 5: games before that crash happened, and he had something like
20:18
Speaker 5: around five hundred receiving yards, a couple of touchdowns. I mean,
20:20
Speaker 5: he was kind of starting to come on. He was
20:22
Speaker 5: a legitimate deep threat. So I don't know, I guess
20:25
Speaker 5: we've probably seen stranger things happen, but it'll be interesting
20:29
Speaker 5: to see what happens for sure.
20:32
Speaker 2: What do you think?
20:32
Speaker 1: And Brian Horwath is our guest here from the Vegas
20:36
Speaker 1: Review Journal joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Was
20:39
Speaker 1: at this event on Tuesday night in Vegas. Henry Ruggs,
20:42
Speaker 1: former Raiders wide receiver, speaking at a Hope for Prisoners
20:46
Speaker 1: event and apologize to the family of the woman that
20:50
Speaker 1: he killed in a car crash.
20:53
Speaker 7: What do you.
20:53
Speaker 1: Think the percentage chance might be if you had to
20:57
Speaker 1: take a guess of an l team who is looking
21:01
Speaker 1: at this situation, knowing what happened, knowing the pr ramifications,
21:07
Speaker 1: should they give Henry Ruggs a chance? What do you
21:10
Speaker 1: think that, like the realistic possibility is that he plays
21:13
Speaker 1: in the NFL again, I just.
21:16
Speaker 5: Don't know, you know, honestly, Brian, I mean, it's it's
21:19
Speaker 5: hard for me to believe that a team would want
21:23
Speaker 5: to take on that baggage. But then you look at
21:27
Speaker 5: you know, this is a young guy. He was kind
21:30
Speaker 5: of starting to come into his own. He's one of
21:33
Speaker 5: those one of those receivers. He's a deep threat. I
21:36
Speaker 5: mean he's he at least was. We don't know what
21:38
Speaker 5: he is now, but he was a very fast receiver
21:42
Speaker 5: who's able to kind of take the top off of
21:44
Speaker 5: the defense. You know, that's a coveted thing in the NFL,
21:47
Speaker 5: as you know, so who knows. It does seem like
21:51
Speaker 5: there's a lot of baggage, you know, he was out drinking.
21:55
Speaker 5: He ends up driving his Corvette with his then girlfriend.
22:00
Speaker 5: I think it's just fiance, you know, almost one hundred
22:03
Speaker 5: and fifty miles an hour on our residential street here
22:06
Speaker 5: in Las Vegas and ends up killing a woman. That's
22:09
Speaker 5: that's a lot of baggage. But you know, on the
22:12
Speaker 5: other hand, I mean, this is America, and you know what,
22:16
Speaker 5: if you serve your time, I mean, Michael Vick served
22:18
Speaker 5: as time was able to come back. I realized that's
22:20
Speaker 5: a different situation. That's apples and argues. But you know,
22:24
Speaker 5: who knows who knows. But it was certainly interesting to see.
22:29
Speaker 5: I think the exact quote from Henry today was, hey,
22:32
Speaker 5: look when I get out you know whatever that is,
22:35
Speaker 5: he hopes it's next year, next August.
22:38
Speaker 6: He said, look, I'll be ready.
22:40
Speaker 5: So it'll definitely be very interesting.
22:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine that's that's a tough thing to balance,
22:46
Speaker 1: right where you want to have dreams and goals and
22:51
Speaker 1: look forward to your future.
22:53
Speaker 2: I mean that is understandable.
22:55
Speaker 1: But at the same time, when on one hand, Europe
22:59
Speaker 1: still apologize for this horrible, horrible mistake that you made,
23:04
Speaker 1: and then in your next breath you're talking about your future.
23:07
Speaker 1: That's a really tough thing to balance.
23:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and certainly. I mean, you know, when
23:16
Speaker 5: Henry was talking tonight, he was basically in a room
23:19
Speaker 5: full of the ex offenders who are kind of trying
23:24
Speaker 5: to come back and be productive members of society. He
23:28
Speaker 5: was also live stream, so there's some some folks in
23:32
Speaker 5: prisons across Nevada who were also watching, and you know,
23:35
Speaker 5: it was kind of interesting. A couple of those folks said, look, Henry,
23:38
Speaker 5: you know, you're an inspiration to us, and you know,
23:41
Speaker 5: he was. He was kind of inspiring to listen to.
23:45
Speaker 5: You know, he said he's learned a lot. He was young,
23:49
Speaker 5: he wasn't happy he was away from home. I mean,
23:52
Speaker 5: he said he kind of escaped into that world of
23:56
Speaker 5: essentially of drinking. Obviously made a horrible mistake. But again,
24:01
Speaker 5: you know, we're talking about a guy who's twenty six
24:03
Speaker 5: and he's saying, look, I want to come back and
24:06
Speaker 5: make something out of myself again. So it was there
24:10
Speaker 5: was a lot of emotion in that room today.
24:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine. So you know what's crazy is
24:16
Speaker 1: I feel so stupid right now, Brian, because yeah, of
24:18
Speaker 1: course I went back and looked at Henry Ruggs and
24:22
Speaker 1: his numbers. Right, just looked at his stats and his
24:25
Speaker 1: rookie season, he had what twenty six catches for about
24:29
Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty yards, and then his second season,
24:32
Speaker 1: in seven games a twenty four catches for a little
24:35
Speaker 1: bit better, about four hundred and fifty yards.
24:37
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at twenty twenty.
24:39
Speaker 1: One and I'm like, huh, maybe he got hurt, maybe
24:42
Speaker 1: a hamstring or something.
24:43
Speaker 2: I totally it's like, duh, that's when the crash.
24:46
Speaker 1: Happened, Like you just said, a little while ago, that
24:48
Speaker 1: was during the twenty one season, and the next thing,
24:51
Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders released him and then he's, you know,
24:55
Speaker 1: on his way to being sentenced.
24:57
Speaker 2: It took a little while.
24:58
Speaker 1: He pleaded guilty in May of three and was sentenced
25:01
Speaker 1: in August of twenty three, and it was just a
25:05
Speaker 1: three to ten year prison sentence, and like you said,
25:07
Speaker 1: he's eligible for parole next August. Right.
25:10
Speaker 2: Wow.
25:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, there were certainly some folks who
25:15
Speaker 5: raised an eyebrow at you know, hey, this this person
25:17
Speaker 5: potentially he's responsible for taking someone else's life and he
25:22
Speaker 5: gets potentially only three years that. You know, a lot
25:26
Speaker 5: of things go into that he you know, he didn't
25:29
Speaker 5: have prior.
25:29
Speaker 6: Offenses or anything like that. You know, he was.
25:32
Speaker 5: Also able to afford David Chesnoff, who's, you know, a
25:37
Speaker 5: high price lawyer here in Las Vegas, and that certainly
25:41
Speaker 5: didn't hurt his cause either. But hey, look, I mean tonight,
25:46
Speaker 5: if for just just for the event, and I know
25:48
Speaker 5: that there's a family that's that's hurting and they're gonna
25:51
Speaker 5: be hurting forever, that's never gonna go away. You know,
25:54
Speaker 5: he said all the right things tonight, So I don't know,
25:57
Speaker 5: We'll see, We'll see what happens.
25:59
Speaker 1: Has there any word from the victims family, Have they
26:04
Speaker 1: said anything about how they feel right now about the
26:08
Speaker 1: whole situation, or are they're just you know, kind of
26:11
Speaker 1: living life on their own without making any statements like that.
26:15
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny. I was actually texting back and forth
26:21
Speaker 5: with the victim's uncle, who has spoke out in the
26:24
Speaker 5: past last few years a little bit, and you know,
26:28
Speaker 5: he had no idea that Henry wouldn't be speaking at
26:31
Speaker 5: this event. We didn't know this was going on. Henry
26:33
Speaker 5: himself said that he was just asked to do this
26:35
Speaker 5: on Saturday, so he just basically just decided that the
26:40
Speaker 5: time was right he wanted to talk a little bit
26:42
Speaker 5: about his experience. So and Tina, Tintor's uncle just said,
26:49
Speaker 5: he told me in a text message, Look, there's there's
26:52
Speaker 5: so much that goes into He was actually at work
26:54
Speaker 5: tonight and he said, look, I don't want to, you know,
26:58
Speaker 5: make one or two comments to mug talk later. Obviously
27:02
Speaker 5: a lot there was a lot of emotion that went
27:05
Speaker 5: into that whole thing, A lot of emotion for that family.
27:08
Speaker 5: So you know that's something obviously that's not going to
27:13
Speaker 5: go away after.
27:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, I totally hear you on that. It's
27:18
Speaker 1: it becomes so complicated so fast, you know, because I
27:21
Speaker 1: think about it. I have two nephews who I absolutely adore,
27:26
Speaker 1: and they're around the same age when Tina was killed, right,
27:31
Speaker 1: And so if I put myself in that position, like
27:33
Speaker 1: you're texting back and forth with the uncle, me as
27:36
Speaker 1: an uncle, if one of my nephews died the same way,
27:42
Speaker 1: I would have a huge problem with that. But at
27:44
Speaker 1: the same time, it's not like I want to make
27:47
Speaker 1: I don't want to text you something and that could
27:49
Speaker 1: impact that person's life going forward. It becomes really complicated,
27:55
Speaker 1: really fast. Yeah.
27:57
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean I don't blame them for that, you know,
28:00
Speaker 5: I can say that certainly the family did you know,
28:05
Speaker 5: wonder if maybe that was a little bit light of
28:09
Speaker 5: a sentence. And I think anyone could probably understand if
28:13
Speaker 5: you're in their shoes as well. So it's it's a
28:17
Speaker 5: difficult situation. You know, there were never any winners in this,
28:22
Speaker 5: you know, Henry his family had to go through all this,
28:25
Speaker 5: and of course Tina Tintor's family, So it's just a
28:28
Speaker 5: really a really tragic, tragic situation.
28:31
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, Hey, Brian, I appreciate you taking a couple
28:34
Speaker 1: of minutes. Man, Thanks for your time here in the
28:36
Speaker 1: early morning, and I hope you have a good day.
28:40
Speaker 2: We'll catch you down the road.
28:41
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on.
28:42
Speaker 2: Absolutely there.
28:43
Speaker 1: He is Brian Horwath from the Vegas Reviewed Journal. He
28:48
Speaker 1: was at that event former Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs.
28:52
Speaker 1: He was on special release from prison. On Tuesday night,
28:54
Speaker 1: he spoke at a Hope for Prisoners event in Las
28:57
Speaker 1: Vegas and he apologized to the family of a woman
29:01
Speaker 1: he killed in a car crash. That was nearly four
29:03
Speaker 1: years ago. So this was in November of twenty one
29:08
Speaker 1: and like Brian said, Ruggs was driving a sports car
29:12
Speaker 1: around one hundred and fifty six miles per hour in
29:15
Speaker 1: a residential area and he slammed into the back of
29:18
Speaker 1: Tina Tintour's vehicle. He killed her and her dog, and
29:23
Speaker 1: so he pled guilty. Ruggs did in May of twenty three.
29:27
Speaker 1: He pled guilty to felony dui causing death and misdemeanor
29:31
Speaker 1: vehicular manslaughter. He was sentenced in August of twenty three
29:36
Speaker 1: to a three to ten year prison sentence. That ay,
29:40
Speaker 1: that's wild that it could be only three years I remember,
29:44
Speaker 1: And this is a weird full circle moment. But coincidentally,
29:50
Speaker 1: June seventeenth, which is when this show started on the
29:54
Speaker 1: West coast, at least on Tuesday, that was the anniversary
29:58
Speaker 1: of the OJ Bronco chase in LA Isn't.
30:03
Speaker 7: That weird how big events tend to happen like that
30:06
Speaker 7: at the same time.
30:07
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:07
Speaker 1: But the weird twist is OJ commented on the Henry
30:14
Speaker 1: Rugg situation.
30:15
Speaker 2: Oh and he was like three years.
30:18
Speaker 1: Like OJ was like, something doesn't add up right there,
30:21
Speaker 1: you know, And so that's what came to mind, is
30:24
Speaker 1: OJ commented on the Henry Rugg situation, and the Bronco
30:27
Speaker 1: Chase was Tuesday, you know, June seventeenth, So that's funny
30:31
Speaker 1: how that worked together. But yeah, that's uh. I think
30:36
Speaker 1: Brian said it best.
30:37
Speaker 2: There are no winners.
30:39
Speaker 1: But the tough part is imagine if you are one
30:43
Speaker 1: of Tina Tintour's loved ones, like he mentioned texting with
30:47
Speaker 1: the uncle I'm an uncle, if one of my nephews
30:51
Speaker 1: died like that, for in that manner, like that's how
30:57
Speaker 1: they went, I would be I don't know how to
31:01
Speaker 1: describe it. I'd be out of my mind if that happened.
31:04
Speaker 7: I find it very very difficult to believe that he
31:07
Speaker 7: will play in the NFL again.
31:10
Speaker 2: I find it very difficult too.
31:11
Speaker 1: But he did bring up Leonard Little and I do
31:15
Speaker 1: remember him at the University of Tennessee. You remember him
31:18
Speaker 1: with the Rams. I'd have to look back at the exact.
31:21
Speaker 2: I did look it up.
31:24
Speaker 7: It was his rookie season, killed a woman drunk driving incident,
31:29
Speaker 7: and he played involuntary manslaughter. And then he did continue
31:33
Speaker 7: to play and have a career. And I don't know
31:37
Speaker 7: what the the like the details were, the little details
31:41
Speaker 7: of that, but I mean, you know, some of the
31:45
Speaker 7: details of the rug situation, you know, one hundred and
31:50
Speaker 7: fifty six miles an hour on the you know, on
31:53
Speaker 7: the like on the street, and then like the manner
31:59
Speaker 7: in which you know the woman and her dog died, right,
32:04
Speaker 7: it's it's you know.
32:06
Speaker 2: I know, I hear you.
32:07
Speaker 1: I think I'd have to look back Dante Stalwarth, the
32:11
Speaker 1: former wide receiver.
32:13
Speaker 2: I know.
32:13
Speaker 1: I Again, I'd have to find out all the details.
32:16
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the exact same thing, but there
32:19
Speaker 1: might have been some similarities where he was drinking and
32:22
Speaker 1: there was some sort of accident, And again I'd have
32:25
Speaker 1: to refresh myself with all the details.
32:27
Speaker 2: But I hear you.
32:30
Speaker 1: It seems like, man, I don't know that an NFL
32:33
Speaker 1: team is going to sign up for that. But when
32:37
Speaker 1: there are some other examples, we'll see, we'll see. I
32:43
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he has to take the scenic route
32:45
Speaker 1: and go to the UFL for a little bit first,
32:48
Speaker 1: or I don't know what, but it's possible. It's pretty
32:53
Speaker 1: wild to say, like, think about this next season, not
32:57
Speaker 1: this coming season, the twenty twenty five season, but next year,
33:00
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth season. He could be out of
33:03
Speaker 1: prison and trying to make a roster. That's wild to
33:07
Speaker 1: think about, but that could be the reality.
33:11
Speaker 2: We'll see how it shakes out, all right.
33:12
Speaker 1: Coming up next, a member of the militia checks in
33:17
Speaker 1: interesting comparison in terms of being targeted. We'll share that
33:20
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33:22
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Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
33:41
Speaker 1: Big Ben Maler. So let me get to a tweet
33:45
Speaker 1: from the militia and we'll give you some some crack
33:48
Speaker 1: research we've been doing here, which is it might be
33:52
Speaker 1: a sign of the apocalypse now that I'm thinking about it.
33:54
Speaker 1: But first off, the tweet here, So we were talking
33:57
Speaker 1: about Caitlin Clark for a little bit. There was a
34:00
Speaker 1: dust up in the Fever Connecticut Sun game on Tuesday
34:04
Speaker 1: night and there was a player playing defense on Caitlyn Clark.
34:11
Speaker 1: She got raked across the face. Caitlyn pushed this girl
34:15
Speaker 1: and then Caitlyn got pushed to the floor by Marina Maybry.
34:18
Speaker 1: There's some bad blood later in the game. Sophia Cunningham,
34:21
Speaker 1: she got even j C. Sheldon, that was the player
34:25
Speaker 1: that accidentally raked Caitlin across the face. At the end
34:28
Speaker 1: of the game, Sophie Cunningham committed a hard foul on her.
34:32
Speaker 2: And got tossed for it.
34:34
Speaker 1: So there was some fisticuffs on Tuesday night in the
34:37
Speaker 1: Sun v.
34:37
Speaker 2: Fever showdown. But I just threw out the.
34:40
Speaker 1: Question, where is there an athlete, regardless of sport, regardless
34:45
Speaker 1: of league, that has gotten basically the Caitlyn Clark treatment
34:51
Speaker 1: from other players in the league.
34:53
Speaker 2: And you know how it's played out.
34:55
Speaker 1: A lot of jealousy going on with the other NBA players,
35:00
Speaker 1: and we've seen many instances of it play out where
35:04
Speaker 1: Caitlin has been targeted. She's been knocked around quite a bit.
35:07
Speaker 1: There's been physical play and not just your standard Hey,
35:11
Speaker 1: that was a hard file, Like well, that was a
35:13
Speaker 1: complete cheap shot, Like you were clearly bent about this
35:18
Speaker 1: girl getting a lot of attention and notoriety. And I
35:23
Speaker 1: was just curious if you've heard other athletes make statements
35:27
Speaker 1: against the player the way WNBA players have of the
35:31
Speaker 1: last year and a half with Caitlin Clark since she's
35:34
Speaker 1: been in the WNBA and the way she's been targeted
35:39
Speaker 1: within the lines. And so Sheila checked in at the
35:44
Speaker 1: no Show on AX and said, I think Shador Sanders
35:48
Speaker 1: was targeted during the draft and not sure that he
35:53
Speaker 1: will be on the field of play, but that's as
35:55
Speaker 1: close as I can come to anything in recent history.
36:00
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
36:01
Speaker 1: I would actually take it back to college, you know,
36:03
Speaker 1: if you would go back to college. Was there a
36:07
Speaker 1: little bit of I don't know, extra hot sauce on
36:13
Speaker 1: the line there?
36:14
Speaker 2: Right, Like some players that are going against Shaduur.
36:17
Speaker 1: Sanders and they're like, all right, this guy with kind
36:20
Speaker 1: of like the watch dance and Shador has flair, shadu
36:24
Speaker 1: Or has charisma, Shaduur likes to dance. Sometimes you like
36:27
Speaker 1: to dance in your face. Not every competitor loves that.
36:30
Speaker 1: So was there a little bit of extra there with
36:34
Speaker 1: some of the opponents when he was back in college. Yeah,
36:37
Speaker 1: I would say there's a little extra at times, some
36:41
Speaker 1: extra motivation and maybe plant him into the turf, you know,
36:45
Speaker 1: preferably legally, but if illegally, you know.
36:49
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Was there
36:51
Speaker 2: a little bit of that in college?
36:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say in now the person that tweeted,
36:59
Speaker 1: they're talking about the draft specifically, and I mean I
37:04
Speaker 1: don't know that that's a different deal than Caitlin Clark.
37:07
Speaker 1: Like Caitlin Clark's at number one overall pick. I mean,
37:10
Speaker 1: you got some jealous players, but front offices are totally
37:16
Speaker 1: sold on Caitlin.
37:17
Speaker 2: They're like, what's there to think about?
37:18
Speaker 1: This girl bombs threes, she's a past first point guard, Like,
37:22
Speaker 1: she's unbelievable in college. Her game translates perfectly to the WNBA,
37:27
Speaker 1: Like every front office is sold on her. So that's
37:30
Speaker 1: where it differs with Shador. I don't know that you
37:33
Speaker 1: could say he was like targeted by front offices. I
37:40
Speaker 1: still don't quite understand what they were thinking. Where there
37:44
Speaker 1: are a lot of teams that still need starting quarterbacks
37:48
Speaker 1: and they're just like, yeah, no, no thanks, is it
37:53
Speaker 1: really that bad?
37:54
Speaker 2: So it was like confusing.
37:57
Speaker 1: It was strange when she'd do showed that he's at
38:01
Speaker 1: least talented enough to be a higher draft pick than
38:04
Speaker 1: a fifth rounder.
38:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hey, call it what you will.
38:10
Speaker 1: Where it's a weird evaluation or it's being skeptical to
38:16
Speaker 1: a fault. I don't know, however you want to describe it,
38:18
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's it's similar to Caitlin Clark
38:22
Speaker 1: as far as that part of it goes, as far
38:25
Speaker 1: as the details that might be a sign of the apocalypse.
38:29
Speaker 1: Coop was looking up these details. We were just talking
38:32
Speaker 1: about Henry Ruggs, the former Raiders wide receiver, and some
38:35
Speaker 1: of the details involving his trunk driving crime, and we're
38:41
Speaker 1: thinking this is all like, might he play in the
38:44
Speaker 1: NFL again? And you compare it to Leonard Little played
38:48
Speaker 1: for the Rams in the NFL, Dante Stalworth who was
38:51
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the NFL, and some of the
38:54
Speaker 1: details here, Coop, Like, I wrote down some of the
38:56
Speaker 1: things you said. So Dante Stalworth, he was released after
39:00
Speaker 1: you're serving twenty four days of a thirty day sentence.
39:04
Speaker 1: He was driving over the legal limit, killed someone and
39:08
Speaker 1: served twenty four days.
39:09
Speaker 4: That is it.
39:11
Speaker 1: Leonard Little, he had a point one point nine and
39:16
Speaker 1: was driving back from a birthday party, killed a woman.
39:20
Speaker 1: Ninety day sentence played in the league. Like, the thing
39:23
Speaker 1: that's different is there was video of Henry Rugg's situation.
39:29
Speaker 1: You know, there was I remember the fiery vehicle that
39:32
Speaker 1: the victim died in. You're seeing that on TV. So
39:36
Speaker 1: that could stick with NFL teams, that could That could
39:39
Speaker 1: differ quite a bit from the other two situations, but
39:41
Speaker 1: there is a precedent at least for similar crimes in
39:45
Speaker 1: those players getting back to the league. Hey, coming up next.
39:49
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