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Ian Furness 9/28 H3: Mike Sando, angry texts and more Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: It's time for our Monday visit with Mike Sando of
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  Speaker 1: or visit HuntServices.com. Now with Mike Sando, here's Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 1: Should know, two.
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  Speaker 2: Big NFL games tonight, Monday Night Football, Bears, Eagles, coming
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  Speaker 2: up 5-15 right here on 93.3 KJR FM after Softie
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  Speaker 2: and Fane wrap things up. That'll wrap up week three
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  Speaker 2: of the NFL season. Our local team now 2-1 after
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  Speaker 2: just another crazy week in the league. And our friend
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando joins us right now from the Athletic on
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  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Mike. Hey, how's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Good, good. By the way, for those that didn't see this,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about it last week. Mike did a story
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  Speaker 2: last week on some of the numbers, the analytical numbers,
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  Speaker 2: some of the numbers that maybe you don't understand, including...
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  Speaker 2: expected points added EPA, which we talk about on this
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  Speaker 2: show pretty much every week, and all I know is this.
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  Speaker 2: The EPA world, Mike, was not treating the Seattle Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: very well yesterday, whether it was a turnover by Jadarian Price,
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  Speaker 2: an interception by Sam Darnold. There were a lot of
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  Speaker 2: EPA things in the negative for Seattle yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: There really were, yeah. I mean, the turnovers is really
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  Speaker 4: where it was at, and you can feel the value.
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  Speaker 4: You can feel it sometimes being even bigger than a touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: And so, yeah, I mean, that's how you lose games.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Rams went through something similar too, where
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  Speaker 4: if you compare a lot of the yards and the
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  Speaker 4: other stats, you know, it looks pretty good. Like you
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  Speaker 4: probably would have won the game. I don't even think
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  Speaker 4: the commanders had, what, 285 yards, something like that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was next.
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  Speaker 4: But when you're giving them short fields on the turnovers
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  Speaker 4: or letting them score on a pick six, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they don't really need offensive yards to win.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned the Rams. I mean, Darnold and Stafford both
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  Speaker 2: had the same situation, right? I mean, what's a normal
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  Speaker 2: pick six? What does that do? I mean, it's usually
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  Speaker 2: not just six points or seven points the other way.
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  Speaker 2: It's usually more than that, right?
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  Speaker 4: Well, think of this. If you're at your own one-yard
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  Speaker 4: line and throw one, it's not even worth a full
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  Speaker 4: touchdown because the other team was in good position as
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  Speaker 4: it was. You know what I mean? They're going to
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  Speaker 4: get the ball back at midfield on a punt. They're
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  Speaker 4: going to expect to get three points anyway, right? You're
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  Speaker 4: close to a field goal. But if you're about to
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  Speaker 4: go in for a touchdown, we know this. You always
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  Speaker 4: hear the announcers say, that's a 14-point swing. And it's
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  Speaker 4: really usually about a 12-point swing. It's about what it is.
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  Speaker 4: If you're really close, if you have a first down,
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  Speaker 4: you're inside the five-yard line, you're probably going to get
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  Speaker 4: a touchdown or certainly a field goal. And all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden, the other team takes a getaway. The expected
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  Speaker 4: points really adds not only their points, but what you
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  Speaker 4: were likely to get. You're giving away this prime field
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  Speaker 4: position that has a value. it has a value even
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  Speaker 4: before you score, right? It has an expected value, but
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  Speaker 4: guess what? Things don't always go as expected. And that's
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  Speaker 4: why there's these big swings in games that you can feel.
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  Speaker 4: And so, you know, it's nice to be able to
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  Speaker 4: put a number on that and know exactly how much
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  Speaker 4: that hurt. I think for the, I think for the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 4: it was about eight, almost 18 points is what those
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  Speaker 4: turnovers were worth. And so, you know, they, they lost
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  Speaker 4: the game by two points. It's a little bit like,
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  Speaker 4: when they lost that game to the Rams. Remember last year,
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  Speaker 4: wasn't it a two point? Wasn't it two points? I
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  Speaker 4: think they had four turnovers in that one too. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you can feel what's happening there where that's obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 4: almost insurmountable, but these good teams, and I think the
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  Speaker 4: Rams were one last night too. The good teams are
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  Speaker 4: right in it anyway. The really top teams, they have
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  Speaker 4: those turnovers and they're still in the game. The Rams
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  Speaker 4: almost won. Rams and Seattle both threw pick sixes in
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  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. And still, they're right there and maybe
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  Speaker 4: should have won. Certainly the Rams feel like it because
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  Speaker 4: the penalties at the end of the game probably worked
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  Speaker 4: out bad for them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if we're being honest and you try to look
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  Speaker 2: at it, even if you're an NFC West fan here
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle or San Francisco, you're looking at it and saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think the Rams may have got one taken away.
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  Speaker 2: The interception at the end certainly looked clean along the way.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando joining us from The Athletic. uh does does
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  Speaker 2: new england have a drake may problem the runner-up to
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  Speaker 2: the mvp last year and number two in the top
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  Speaker 2: 100 all that fun stuff do they have a drake
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  Speaker 2: may issue.
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  Speaker 4: They do you know that's what i wrote about today
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  Speaker 4: in my column because it's it's it's what we saw
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  Speaker 4: in the first game and all the seahawks fans were
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  Speaker 4: watching when he just inexplicably threw the game away uh
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  Speaker 4: made a high risk interception when they were about to
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  Speaker 4: kick i kick a field goal i think that would
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  Speaker 4: have tied the game if i remember right and he's
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  Speaker 4: making those types of mistakes it's it's There's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times you might have a cold streak and you
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  Speaker 4: throw some interceptions, have some turnovers, but your process is
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  Speaker 4: pretty sound and those things are going to even out.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't have sound process right now. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. It's been a weird off. It was
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  Speaker 4: a weird off season for them, obviously, with their head
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  Speaker 4: coach didn't use the best judgment off the field. Their
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  Speaker 4: quarterback's not using the best judgment on the field. And
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  Speaker 4: it's really hard for them to win.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, this is a, I'm looking at the NFC and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for folks watching this, The Green Bay game
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  Speaker 2: this week, you know, one of the things that jumps out,
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  Speaker 2: I think, is at times the struggles of a Jordan Love. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because it feels like, I mean, you go
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  Speaker 2: from Pharr forever to Rodgers forever, and you just feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's like they've always had good quarterback play. Love
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  Speaker 2: may be struggling, but it feels like, and I know
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  Speaker 2: you wrote about this. For Green Bay, and we saw
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  Speaker 2: this yesterday with Seattle missing Bradford maybe, the offensive line
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  Speaker 2: is still one of the most underrated, most important things
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  Speaker 2: in all of football. And it sounds like Green Bay,
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  Speaker 2: if you're looking at their 1-2 record, yes, the defense
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  Speaker 2: has given up a lot. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: it's the offensive line that might be an issue.
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  Speaker 4: There's some breaking points here. Think of it this way.
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  Speaker 4: So they lost their right tackle early in the season,
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  Speaker 4: seasoning injury. And you go, okay, it's just one guy.
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  Speaker 4: But when you're already in a precarious position, it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of like this. what are you in? You're about six
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  Speaker 4: foot four, maybe six, three, six, four. So if you're
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  Speaker 4: standing in six feet of water, that water's coming right
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  Speaker 4: up under your nose, but you can still breathe that
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  Speaker 4: one extra inch of water. You can't breathe. And that's
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  Speaker 4: where I feel like some of these teams get with
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  Speaker 4: an offensive line where you don't really realize the water's
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  Speaker 4: already up to your, the bottom of your nose. And
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  Speaker 4: then that one little thing, one other thing happens. And
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  Speaker 4: now sudden suddenly you're underwater. And I feel like that's,
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  Speaker 4: that's happened to them. a little bit across their line.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a deterioration really over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things I pointed out was, you know, they're,
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  Speaker 4: they're running back average per carry over the last season
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  Speaker 4: and a half or so has fallen from about 4.5
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  Speaker 4: to 3.9 to 3.2. And some of that sure Josh
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  Speaker 4: Jacobs is out, but a lot of it is really, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, their offensive line. So that's what Matt LaFleur
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  Speaker 4: was asked about their coach at his news conference today.
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  Speaker 4: I watched, uh, do you think you need to run
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  Speaker 4: the ball more? And he's like, of course. But you've
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  Speaker 4: got to be able to move some people too.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, would you make the Giants trading for J.J. McCarthy
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  Speaker 2: from Minnesota today?
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  Speaker 4: Well, the connections people have that make them feel comfortable
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  Speaker 4: with a player really are what facilitate these types of moves,
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  Speaker 4: especially at the quarterback position. So obviously the Harbaugh's, Jim,
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  Speaker 4: and by extension it's better, John.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Michigan ties. So I think that's a, that's a huge
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  Speaker 4: part of it. You, I think for a lot of people,
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  Speaker 4: there's baggage and things that come with JJ McCarthy. I
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  Speaker 4: think his approach has been talked about behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 4: He's just been off and obviously he's been injured. And
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  Speaker 4: so they probably feel like, Hey, we're desperate situation. This
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  Speaker 4: is somebody who does have probably some upside. The giants,
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  Speaker 4: the Vikings couldn't really afford to wait on them with
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  Speaker 4: the status of their team. Maybe he gets a chance
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  Speaker 4: down the stretch this year to, and what could be
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  Speaker 4: a difficult season for the Giants without their starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: But it's a weird quarterback kind of depth chart to me.
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  Speaker 4: I think Jameis Winston seems like he would be an
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  Speaker 4: entertaining type of a guy, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: he's the on-your-P's-and-Q's mentor, here's how you get prepared for
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  Speaker 4: a game, here's how you say, here's how you carry yourself.
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  Speaker 4: He's just kind of everybody's favorite uncle to me. And
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  Speaker 4: so now you're throwing J.J. McCarthy, who I think needs
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  Speaker 4: a lot of guidance. Maybe getting cut is going to
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  Speaker 4: help him and be a wake-up call for him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Because I think he needs one, just professionally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a weird thing because it'd be nice, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: to have that mentor in the room. I mean, maybe
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  Speaker 2: Cousins is that for Mendoza, but it feels like there's
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  Speaker 2: just not a lot of that in the NFL. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're competing for playing time, right? Competing for contracts. To
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  Speaker 2: some extent.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it depends.
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  Speaker 4: There's some guys who know what their role is. I
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  Speaker 4: think we've seen some of those guys around the Case
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  Speaker 4: Keenums of the world. I think Josh McCown at the
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  Speaker 4: end of his career. Those guys sort of get it,
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  Speaker 4: and you can hang around longer. You can be 37, 38,
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  Speaker 4: past your probably ability to really help the team that
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  Speaker 4: much on the field, but you can be seen as
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  Speaker 4: an asset. And it's hard to prove if that helps
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  Speaker 4: or not. I think, though, for any of us, having
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  Speaker 4: somebody who's a mentor or who's been there before can
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  Speaker 4: offer some guidance and perspective is helpful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Mike, I.
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  Speaker 2: How shocked are you at Houston's 0-3?
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  Speaker 4: I'm real shocked. I thought their defense was so good
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  Speaker 4: coming into the year that they could weather the ups
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  Speaker 4: and downs that they were going to have on offense
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  Speaker 4: and do better than they've done. I think the defense
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  Speaker 4: has probably given up more points than I would have
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  Speaker 4: expected yesterday. It wasn't as bad against the Colts, but
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  Speaker 4: it's keeping everyone in that division.
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  Speaker 5: Down.
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  Speaker 4: Although I think Jacksonville is now a pretty good team
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  Speaker 4: and needs to be looked at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Jacksonville 2-1, everybody else is 1-2, 0-2, 0-3, 0-3.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not quite the AL West. I guess
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  Speaker 2: if we're looking for the AL West, that would be
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  Speaker 2: the NFC South, where Carolina leads with a 1-2 record.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of feels like more of the same, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's the American League West, just like that. Who's going
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  Speaker 2: to be Houston this year?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Tough loss for the saints at home yesterday. I think
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  Speaker 4: they felt like they were going to make a move
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  Speaker 4: and just got themselves into a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: shootout with the Raiders and more power to the Raiders.
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  Speaker 4: That's a great win for them. Three and O with
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  Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak, you know, cousins looks like he's got new life.
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  Speaker 4: He looked like he was done in Atlanta. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Raiders are kind of a fun team. They get the
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs this week, both 3-0. I'll watch that.
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  Speaker 2: Good for Clint Kubiak, huh? It's so early in the process,
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  Speaker 2: but man, since the Gruden departure and maybe even before that,
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  Speaker 2: it just feels like they've been just trying to find
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  Speaker 2: their way, trying to find the guy, trying to find
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  Speaker 2: the coach. You could make an argument he's greatly missed
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  Speaker 2: here in Seattle, although it's early, but Boy, looking to
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  Speaker 2: see him, what he's done there, it's kind of remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like they're believing again. It feels like there
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been a lot of belief in Raiderland for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Well, winning will make you a believer. And, of course,
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  Speaker 4: believing can help you win. But I think it's hugely
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  Speaker 4: important for him because the question on Clint Kubiak has
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  Speaker 4: always been, yeah, great play caller, but low-key personality. Is
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  Speaker 4: he going to command the room and that type of thing?
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  Speaker 4: And I think that can be overrated. I think if–
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  Speaker 4: if you know what you're doing and help the players
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  Speaker 4: play well and you're yourself and you're authentic, and of
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  Speaker 4: course you have to bring some enthusiasm, I think it's
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  Speaker 4: an area that Kubiak has brought a little bit. We've
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  Speaker 4: seen some of his post-game talks in there. He's firing
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  Speaker 4: them up and yelling. He's being himself still. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's a great development for him to get the wins
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  Speaker 4: in the bank early at a place where there's just
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  Speaker 4: been nothing but turmoil.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there's a little Mike McDonald there as
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  Speaker 2: you're describing that. It's like you get– you get your
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  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's of the world and guys like that. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but then you've got to get McDonald is,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know that we all saw the hard
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  Speaker 2: knocks and stuff, but you know, in the three years
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  Speaker 2: he's been here, he's evolved quite a bit, but he's
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  Speaker 2: a pretty quiet dude. Like he's not out there, you know, raw,
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  Speaker 2: raw screaming, like that's, that's not him. And he worked
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  Speaker 2: under that. And I think you're right. Maybe that, that
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  Speaker 2: kind of that fiery personality sometimes can be overrated. It
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  Speaker 2: just kind of depends on the personality team. And like
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  Speaker 2: you said, you win, you have some success. And all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden that belief validates everything. And, It's good
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  Speaker 2: to see that they're doing that along the way. Quick
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  Speaker 2: thoughts from you before I let you go on. We
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  Speaker 2: always like to talk about Monday night. It is countdown
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  Speaker 2: to Monday night here on KJR. We'll have the game
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  Speaker 2: tonight with Philadelphia at 2-0 and Chicago at 1-1 with,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, Case Keenum at quarterback. Kind of a pivotal
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  Speaker 2: game in the NFC tonight.
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  Speaker 4: It really is. Ben Johnson's obviously a very good coordinator
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  Speaker 4: of the offense and I think he's done a great
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  Speaker 4: job as a head coach. Now he's got the real challenge,
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  Speaker 4: but he's had time. He's known all week. It's not
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  Speaker 4: like he thought that Caleb Williams was going to play.
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  Speaker 4: He's got to get this veteran ready to go against
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  Speaker 4: the Eagles who, you know, haven't been scoring a ton
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  Speaker 4: of points but have a good defense. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: a fun matchup to just kind of watch Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 4: operate with a different type of quarterback entirely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. Great stuff, sir. Mike's column, pick six,
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  Speaker 2: is at The Athletic every Monday. It's usually on the
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  Speaker 2: front page, at least it is for me. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: just my algorithm, but it goes right there and then
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  Speaker 2: also on the NFL tab. And like I mentioned, a
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  Speaker 2: great story. Tell folks about what you wrote last week.
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned just kind of some of the numbers. You
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  Speaker 2: and I discussed it, but I think if you're an
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  Speaker 2: NFL fan, it's kind of a must-read from what you
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  Speaker 2: did last week. Yeah, it's just a primer on all
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  Speaker 2: these terms that you increasingly hear. And you know, unless
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  Speaker 2: you're really into this, you're like, okay, what does success
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  Speaker 2: rate mean again?
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: EPA, we hear that a lot, but at a certain
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  Speaker 4: point you kind of just block stuff out that you
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  Speaker 4: don't fully understand. And I think there's, it's worth understanding.
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  Speaker 4: So I just put together a little primer and I
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  Speaker 4: think you can, I think we even linked to it
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  Speaker 4: maybe from my column today too, where when you stumble
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  Speaker 4: across some of these things, you're like, okay, let's check
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  Speaker 4: that out again. And then you get a couple of
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  Speaker 4: reps on it and now you're You're in the club, too.
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  Speaker 4: You're in the club. We'll get you a little pocket protector,
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  Speaker 4: get you some glasses, a little tape in the middle there,
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  Speaker 4: and you can come to class with us.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. I do like the expected points
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  Speaker 2: added because I think, as you mentioned, it's after a play.
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  Speaker 2: It's team scoring expectations after a play.
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  Speaker 3: How it changes.
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  Speaker 2: How it changes, yeah. I think it's a great number.
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  Speaker 4: What was so amazing about the game yesterday is that
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  Speaker 4: Mariota had three touchdowns, I believe, no sacks, no interceptions,
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  Speaker 4: maybe two sacks, no interceptions, and had this real high
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  Speaker 4: passer rating. But their offense overall was a touchdown worse
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  Speaker 4: than expectation. It was minus 7.9 in the EPA. Well,
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  Speaker 4: you say, oh, they won the game.
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  Speaker 3: Who cares?
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  Speaker 4: Stats are for losers.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: It's helping us understand, wow, you know, Seattle's defense wasn't
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  Speaker 4: as bad as it looked. Because I was talking to
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  Speaker 4: a coach last night who didn't get to see their game.
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  Speaker 4: And he's like, wow, Seattle gave up 33 to Mariota.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: You know, I was like, ah. Yeah, he had a
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: good game, but it really wasn't that bad of a
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: defensive performance under the circumstances. It wasn't their best, but
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: it really wasn't as bad as it looks.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: They gave up 258 total yards. You give up less
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: than 300 yards to a team, you should be winning
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: most of the time, but turnovers and what that negative
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: EPA was, as we talked about, was a big part
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: of that game. Short fields or a pick six came
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: into play. Great stuff, Mike. Talk to you next week,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: my friend. Thank you.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: That's Mike Sando. He'll be on later this week with
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: The Morning Show as well with Chuck and Anders. So
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: make sure you tune in. I think it's Thursday as
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: he comes on with those guys. So great stuff from Mike.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the story he wrote last week is very
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: much a must-read, very good stuff by Mike Sando. Okay,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: we'll take a quick break.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Come back.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: We've got Factor Fiction coming up. In addition to that,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: we've got text. We've got a lot of text. I
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: don't know if we have talkbacks.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: But we've got a lot of text. A lot of
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: angry text today. It's an angry text day on a Monday.
• 15:30
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• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Now back to Countdown to Monday Night Football with Ian Furness.
• 15:36
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• 15:41
  Speaker 1: On Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Hi, this is John Stanton.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Is it clear yet? Can I come out? I really
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: have to go to the bathroom.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: Laughter I liked that one.
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: That was good.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Alright, next.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: Well, helps if I start at the beginning.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Hi, Ian.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: Hey, I respectfully disagree about Jerry. He constructed a roster
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: that has significant defensive holes, and he specifically chose players
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: that had these question marks coming in. And several of
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: our prospects have significant defensive holes as well. So, if
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: he's supposed to be the mastermind, he hasn't lived up
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: to it. Also, all of the piggyback six-man rotation stuff,
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: I believe that's on him too.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I thought he kind of threw the staff
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: under the bus on that when he talked about the
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: communication issues. If you were listening earlier, he said, let's see,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: what was.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: It?
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I regret a lot of the communication issues this year.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: And then he went on to say that he spoke
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: with the pitchers and they were good after he spoke
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: to them, but.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: But he did say it was on me, on us.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: We did not.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: He took a lot on himself, but he insinuated that
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: particular thing.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: Maybe it wasn't communicated as well as he wanted it
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: to be.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: That's a stunner. You got two more?
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: Jerry should have been let go too, not because of
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: player performance. But at the beginning of the season, he
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: had a meeting with Dan Wilson to tell him about
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: new baseball and how the way it's supposed to be played.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: So he gave Dan autonomy on the field and but
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: he's still not going to go against the way his
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: boss wants him to manage. So, therefore, those were his
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: decisions as well, so he should be gone. According to Divish,
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: I believe it was.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: One more.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: What a crappy weekend for sports in Washington. True. I'll
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: tell you what... Cougs lose. The Huskies lose. Then the
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: old Seahawks lose. Rick Riz retires. Then we lose old
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: Dan Wilson when we should be firing the ownership group
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: and Jerry DeBoto.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Somebody said on the text line, why didn't Jerry, if
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it's his fault, as he kept taking responsibility, why didn't
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: he fire himself? Good question.
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: Well, also, would you fire yourself or would you just
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: hope that you've learned from your mistakes?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Depends on the buyout.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that's true. I bet this is pretty good.
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: If you were Jerry, can you negotiate a better buyout
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: and then fire yourself?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: With yourself?
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. God, I would. I would. All right.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: I've decided to fire myself. I will take the $ 20
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: million to leave.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I've got, let's see, how many? I've got three years
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: of salary coming my way. I'm fired. Yes.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: Damn.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: And then give your own speech.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: What am I going to do for three years?
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: We have so many texts today.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: 4-9-4-5-1. 2-5-3.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Was Dan ever really in charge? I don't know, man.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know either.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's also 2-5-3. Hard to blame Jerry when so many
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: position players were drafted recently. They're not only making the
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: big league cut, but also contributors.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: But there is an overwhelming majority of the people here
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: are just anti-Depoto. It's 11 years of blank.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Blank DePoto and his narcissism is enough. Do we trust
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: him to hire for all these vacancies?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Where's the other one? There's no accountability. What a joke.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I call BS one minute of this press conference. No
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: way Julio coming home, work on his game, is asking
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: to go work on his next DJ set or whatever
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: publicity he can get that doesn't include baseball. A lot
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: of people I'm thinking Julio and others are non-serious.
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: About I disagree. I think the problem is too, because
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: the baseball team wasn't good. They didn't want to see
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: any Mariners player doing anything outside of being on a
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: baseball field or in a baseball training facility and everything
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: else just angered people more.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: It's like, well, they're not going to give up.
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: Up on promotions and things they plan like the 50th
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: 50th anniversary celebration that was planned a.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Year ago or years ago was the the the julio
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: dj thing that was the home run derby that weekend
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: right yeah it came after just a horrific loss on
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a friday here's And I understand people's anger afterwards, and
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the optics were not good.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: But what are you supposed to do?
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you're not going to cancel the whole thing that
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: you've spent years planning and say, no, Julio, we're not
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: having any fun at this big celebration people bought tickets for.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: Well in advance.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have not been good.
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's like, I feel like people hold on
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: to this extra anger because I understand he's made mistakes,
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: he's done things, but.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: That's not something that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: I just don't think seeing that means that Julio's unserious
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: about baseball or the Mariners are unserious about baseball.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Every team does promotions and things for their fans year-round.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: 206, I see why Jerry still has a job. He's
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: great and eloquent at identifying a problem. Issue is he's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: crappy at solving problems.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: We'll see.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: The only thing I took exception with that he said
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: before we get to fact or fiction here, talked about
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the offseason. Like always, we're going to be very aggressive
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in the offseason. Again, that's never where you're aggressive. You're
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: aggressive at the trade deadline, which is good, but instead
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: of doing something in the offseason to improve your team,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: you wait until the trade deadline to improve your team.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: That doesn't help you.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: And you can't say, yeah, we're aggressive, but then it's
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: just a bunch of moves that don't get made. We
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: don't know the behind-the-scenes stuff of who you're trying to get.
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: It's what did you actually come away with?
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: People want to know what the thing is, what's going on.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it. Fact or fiction.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: We're set to go. Glad you're with us.
• 21:23
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• 21:27
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• 21:29
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• 21:31
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• 21:35
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• 21:43
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• 22:48
  Speaker 3: On the line.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Make sure you pick 735, 1135, 235, and 335. You
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: could always just do this. After our week, which was
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: a 2-3 week, Ash, I was 1-2. You were 1-1. Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I was wrong with Seattle and Washington. I'm very wrong
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: with that. You were wrong with Cincinnati, minus 3.5 at Pittsburgh.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was dumb.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I was wrong with San Francisco minus eight and a
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: half against the Arizona Cardinals. Decided to make a game
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: of it, apparently. I'm not sure why they wanted to
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: do that on me. That's kind of not cool, right?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Like, it ended up being a six-point game. That was
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: 17 fourth-quarter points by the 49ers, giving up 17 to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: those guys.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: That's the bad news. Buffalo minus seven versus the Chargers.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: You got that one right, and I got the, well,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: we got the Giants and Tennessee under 38 and a
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: half right.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Well done.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: That was mostly your pick.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, hey, I just suggested it. That's all.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Before I give you my pick, here's the thing. If
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you really want to win, probably picking against Fane would
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: be a good idea.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: He would be the Houston Texans and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: 0-6.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: 0-6. Now, I'm not much better at two and seven,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: but I have two wins.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you do.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I won't go winless this year.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: No, you will not.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: No, you will not.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: And Dick still has that chance.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: He has that chance. Here's my pick. Ladies and gentlemen,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you ready for it? Ready for it?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Ready for it?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Washington Huskies coming off a horrific loss. Going to the
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Trojans of USC.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Coming off a horrific loss and an ugly look in
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that loss as well.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that looked real bad.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: But the Huskies are getting 9.5, and I'm taking all
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: 9.5 points and taking it all the way to the bank. Fact,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Washington plus 9.5 at USC. Fact, 4-9-4-5-1. If you disagree, fiction, 4-9-4-5-1.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be a 10-plus point game.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Washington's a strange team.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: That's why I don't know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Now this is also a win-win for Ian.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was going to say, you don't have anything
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: to lose here.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: No, not really. I'll gladly take a loss if it happens.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But no, I do think they'll cover. USC, no, no.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: The Lincoln-Riley discourse right now is really bad. Yeah, he's terrible.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And the pressure they're facing, the stuff that they pulled
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: both in-game and then after the game, and I am
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: no Ducks fan, we all know that. Just everything about
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: USC is in turmoil right now. Washington's catching them at
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: a perfect time. Huskies, yes, coming off a bad loss
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to Minnesota, in which they kind of rallied in the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter before falling short. That was not a shot
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: at DeMond Williams, but they did fall short. They did
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: fall short. But I think they'll cover the 9.5. I
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if they win outright, to be honest
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: with you. I think it's a weird year in college football.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I can see them winning. But I'll go 9.5. 9.5
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: is a big number. It's a really big number down
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: there at USC. So Washington, plus 9.5.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Fact, 49451.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Jordan Maieva and USC, the Trojans.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Washington will cover that thing. They won't
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: lose by 10 points. 49451, fact if you agree. 49451,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: fiction if you disagree. Vote with your brain, not with
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: your heart. So I'm talking to mostly you, Cougar fans.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: He wants you to agree with him.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Husky fans are probably torn on this. What would you
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: say on this one?
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: I'd say fact. I think that's a good, it is
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: a really big point spread.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: It's a big number.
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: But I just, yeah, I continue to worry about Washington's offense.
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: We saw a better glimpse of it in the second
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: half of that, or fourth quarter of that game on Saturday.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: But I don't know. I just don't know if they
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: have it in them. And that worries me a lot.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: And then, but yeah, USC, what they, I mean, see,
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: and I felt like, oh, there's another reason why I
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: continue to not support USC.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said last week on Twitter that basically, after
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: all the nonsense with Dan Lanning and Portland State and
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: all that, wow, USC's going to be the good guys.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: It'll be hard to root for them. Weird to think
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: of them as being the good guys in the game.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: That changed pretty quickly.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: It changed very quickly.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: That changed really quick.
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I don't like either coach, and I made
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: a comment about both of them after, but all the
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: Oregon fans came out of the woodworks to complain about
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: me complaining about Dan Lanning and how he's so unlikable.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: And then when I told them, well, I also don't
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: like Lincoln Riley. Is that better? They're like, oh, never mind.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: What is the deal? We have like a lot of
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Oregon fans listening.
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: They were all just all, I think if you, they
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: just must go on social media and if they see
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: Dan Lanning, they have to, they just jump out of
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: their seats.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: They're like, Oh my God, I got to defend Dan Lanning. Hey,
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: guess what? Dan Lanning doesn't need you to defend him.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: He knows he comes across as a jerk and he
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: doesn't care.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Dylan Raiola played well in that game.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he did.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure how much of a drop off
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: it is. All right, 49451, one more time. Washington plus 9.5.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: If you agree, fact, 49451. If you disagree and you
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: think USC is going to beat them by 10 or more,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: then it's fiction, 49451. Our guy, Dave Softimar, joins us next.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Pretty wild Monday, not often, Dave Softy Mahler, that you
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and I can have an eight or nine minute conversation
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: during a show, which we did earlier, and not mention
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: once the local NFL team losing its first game of
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the year, huh?
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: I thought I was done with you for the day.
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: I thought I already paid my dues, by the way.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I told you it's more at four with you, more
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: at two with Softy. That's all it is.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: Got to come back and do this whole thing all
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: over again.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: I mean, you know who's really happy that the Mariners
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: caught a press conference today?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: The CLC Hawks?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: The Huskies. Oh, the Huskies. Oh, yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: I mean, they're... I mean, we got the Hawks yesterday.
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: We got the Mariners and Jerry DePoto today. I mean,
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: Saturday against Minnesota feels like.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: A month ago. It does. You know?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Crazy, man. And that wasn't no fun for anybody else
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Well, it was fun for me, but no.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Fun for you.
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: See, I think you guys take more joy in Husky
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: losses than you do Cougars.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I think that used to be the case more.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I think it still is.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I enjoyed it. I was also trying to
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: figure it out. If I'm being serious, I'm trying to
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: figure out, like, what... Who are the Huskies? What is
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: DeMond Williams?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I thought you were trying to figure out what makes
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: you happy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: You guys lost. I heard your update, by the way.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I kid you not.
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: Driving in at 12 o'clock today, and I heard your update,
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: and there was a little bit of snark in your voice.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Snark? Which there should be.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Just hang on a second. Actually, you can tell me
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: if you agree with this, by the way.
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: At 12 o'clock, it was like, oh, the Huskies fought hard,
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: but too little too late for them on Saturday night.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: And then it was, oh, the Cougs fought hard.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Well, ask him who wrote the headlines.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Ashley wrote the headlines.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: And I wrote it that way.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Yes. Okay.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: So it was snarky because it was from a bitter heart.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: Husky fan.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe you are just trying to write it in terms
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: that Ian can understand.
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: Maybe, but also, again, it came from a bitter Husky
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: fan because the Huskies should have played better.
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, the fact that you've got Ashley
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: writing your headlines for you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Hey, man, what am I getting out of Jackson? What's
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: going on here?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: That's a you and Jackson problem.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that was allowed.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: That's a you and Jackson problem. I think you need
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: to have that conversation with Jackson. Plus, Ashley's a hell
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of a writer, so it's better stuff.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Whatever works.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: She usually puts fun stuff in there like butt injury,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: things like that. Try to not make it boring. Yeah,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: it's very good. The one thing I would ask you
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: about the Washington loss is this.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: How much of it was on Jed, clock, et cetera, management?
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: A little bit.
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: I mean, again, see, the problem is that, like we
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: talked about this with Quade Carr and Jaden Lamar getting
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: hurt in the Utah State game and the Wazoo game,
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: all that stuff.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Even if those guys are out there. Yeah. it's still
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: way too tight. It's still way too comfortable, right?
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: I mean, these games are not going anywhere near the
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: way they should be going. Like Minnesota, I mean, I'm
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: not going to say they should have been blown out
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: the way you guys in Utah State should have been,
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: but they were 9.5, 10.5-point favorites for a reason. So
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: there are a lot of issues on this team right now.
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: Offensive line is one of them. Quarterback play is certainly another.
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: Defense was a problem on Saturday night, man. The defense
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: just could not get off the field.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: The T.O.P. was way out of whack on Saturday night.
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: It's funny how the Huskies and the Seahawks sometimes have
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: the same problems. Right now, neither team can run the ball.
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: And we saw that yesterday in D.C. and we saw
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: it on Saturday at Husky Stadium.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: One for ten on third down for Washington. If you
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: get to that point, you're like, okay, that's right. Quick thought,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I know you'll get to this too. Seahawks, I kind
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: of looked at it like, it's the NFL. You're going
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: to have those games every now and then. No one
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: should be panicked about what happened. The only concern I
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: guess you would have is running and the running back
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that you drafted in the first round holding on to
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the football.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Two fumbles in two weeks, boy. If anybody's wondering what
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald thinks of turnovers, just ask Jadarian Price or
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: look at the sideline pictures of him in a coat
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: in the rain for about two and a half quarters
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: after he got benched.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's, look, I don't want to
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: give away all my best stuff.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Don't give away your best stuff.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. But I'll share it with you, a
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: little nugget here.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you. We got a nugget?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I think you just.
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: Saw the difference in a lot of ways between the
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: culture the Mariners had a year ago and the culture
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks have right now.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: I mean, let's let's just assume that this would have
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: been akin to like a late April series in baseball
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: or a mid April series in baseball. And the Seahawks
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: are trying to squash this right now with Jadarian Price.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Dude, you're not going to play if you can't
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: hang on to the ball.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: It's focus. Right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Focus.
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: And the Mariners, if they would have done that back
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: in April with guys like a Rosarina and Julio and
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: Josh Naylor and others, when it comes to brain dead
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: brain fart mistakes in the field. Maybe this team would
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: have been in a different spot than they are right now.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: How do you think Mike McDonald would handle a guy
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: throwing a ball into the outfield with one out?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I think he'd be in prison is what I think. Okay?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, what is the NFL equivalent of that?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what that would be out there.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Running the wrong way? Oh, God. Robert Downey Jr. and
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Johnny B.
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: Goode takes the snap and runs the wrong way. I mean,
• 32:58
  Speaker 10: I think he'd kill somebody. Literally kill somebody.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: So, you know, give him credit for all that, man.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, it was a tough game.
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: I think there were three or four chances in the
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: late fourth quarter where I thought they were going to win.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I was pretty convinced they were going to win.
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: So there's some things that are kind of rearing their
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: ugly head that we've got to talk about for sure.
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: But I'm generally with you when it comes to the.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Hawks, for sure.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I took your Huskies anyway, plus nine and a half
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: on factor fiction.
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: That is the emotional hedge, buddy. Right there, and you've
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: mastered it well.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I've learned it from the best. His name is David Mahler.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: What do you got coming up today?
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: We're going to hear from Jerry a little bit from
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: his press conference. For those that missed it, we'll play
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: some of that. Hugh Millen will be here at 4.
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: And then we've got Bears-Eagles without Caleb Williams coming up
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: at 5 o'clock. And, by the way, we're at Jimmy's today.
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: Big thanks to the Emerald Queen Casino folks for letting
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: us pivot and come.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Up here for the press conference. We'll be back there
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: next Monday.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were firing questions off left, right, and sideways.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I got the stink eye from Divish. He said
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: I was asking too many questions.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I thought you could have asked more, to be honest
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I don't like getting the stink eye from Divish.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Our guy, Edward R. Murrow, a.k.a. Dave Muller, next.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: See ya.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.