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155. Lost in Mythoss plus Mythic Legions the RPG updates · The Euro Legions Podcast

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  My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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  I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
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  It turns out that Attila the arrogant so and so he's got a
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  fake hammer. Oh.
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  A fake? Yeah.
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  Whoa. As I say, Dick.
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  Welcome to episode 155 of the Early Agents podcast.
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  And this week we haven't a clue what we're going to talk about,
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  what we're going to do it anyway because 50% of the battle is
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  showing up. Isn't that right, guys?
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  I thought knowing was half the battle.
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  Ah, yeah, yeah, there's some. Other figures that are.
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  In the process of bankrupting you, I'm not.
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  Going to need. Those things so that this could
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  be a shit show. Great swearing straight off the
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  bat, that's good. Sorry sorry.
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  I don't know if that counts as a swear, but I don't really count
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  it, but I'm sure some people do. So I shall not be editing that
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  one out. So you know, what can we do?
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  Quick reminder, because I said this at the end of the show last
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  time and you know, some people don't listen to the end of the
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  show as you might expect, because we sometimes do go on
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  for quite a while. And Paladin giveaway once we get
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  to 500 subscribers, I'll put up a paladin that I have inbox new
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  inbox for giveaway. So have it already.
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  You don't need to wait for for the game pre-order or whatever.
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  So and we'll find a way of giving that away probably on
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  live stream. And if we get there quicker than
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  later than it might even be on the live stream that we do for
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  the end of the RPG, although that would be in the middle of
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  the night in America time. So maybe that's not fair for.
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  Give the Europeans more of a chance.
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  Yeah, save on postage. Save on the.
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  Post if you're European, you should really subscribe now, you
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  know, and we have had a nice little bump in listeners and
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  watchers over the last couple of weeks, which is, I don't know if
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  it's because of the RPG or what it is or because of our
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  thumbnails or our charming faces, but yeah.
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  So get subscribed if you're listening and you know, you can
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  always just subscribe and then just, you know, do what everyone
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  else does anyway and go on to their home feed on YouTube and
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  not even look at the subscription feed ever again.
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  But you know, you've done us a solid in the meantime, right?
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  How are you fellas then? Mal is overworked.
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  I'm just. I was weighing Angleseeper a few
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  nights and didn't sleep, slept but didn't sleep well any of the
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  nights. So I absolutely scattered at the
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  moment. So yeah, if I nod off at any
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  point, nothing against you boys or the listeners.
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  I guess it's a little bit of that not sleeping in your own
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  bed, even though it's somewhere you are regularly, it's still
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  not your bed, is it? It is.
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  There's three different spare rooms there and the bed is shite
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  in every single one of them. So yeah, it's just like.
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  And you wonder why your back, your back goes.
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  She started looking back and go, oh, it's a week after I go to
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  Wales every time this happens. Plus the five hour drive, you
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  know, Yes, the drive. Was was exciting this time to
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  put him hardly. Oh boy, I.
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  Was late leaving Bristol so obviously it's me.
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  I was late so I didn't get that like 12:45 in the morning.
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  Oh. Which is a bit of pain.
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  So it hit midnight and I'm into North Wales now finally.
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  And it's like, OK, not long ago. And then it started hailing and
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  it was like, OK, I have some podcasts off, but that's fine.
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  And then it stopped. And then it went biblical hail.
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  And I do mean biblical hail. Well, it's been four or five
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  inches deep of hail on the dual carriageway.
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  So the two lane highway for the Americans and the car in front
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  of me suddenly veered towards the hard shoulder in the middle
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  central reservation. Sorry, because it's were, you
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  know, it's skidded on the hail and then autocorrect this
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  skidded back cross into the inside lane and just about kept
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  himself level. Well, and it's like, oh, because
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  it was that bad and it was still hammering it down.
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  It's like, OK, this is not good. And then about half mile further
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  up the road, there's a car on the other side of the road
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  facing the wrong way that spun off and just crashed into the
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  into the side, into the, you know, the mud and the wood on
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  the side. And then about 200 yards past
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  that, there's a car on my side of the road which had also spun
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  and hit the side and was horizontal across one of the two
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  lanes. Did you Zoe in then?
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  Somebody else had stopped, so I just carried on.
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  I slowed right down and just carried on things.
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  So yeah. But yeah, it was, it was an
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  interesting 5 minutes, that one. Yeah, yeah.
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  You know, you see two crashed cars, both sides of the road
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  that close to each other. You're like, yeah, it's just
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  quite bad. At least it's a it's a reminder,
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  as I say, to to slow down and just take along.
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  Yeah. Yes, all.
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  The ironic thing is I'm 99% so I got caught by a speed camera on
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  the way back yesterday. So you're in the UK?
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  There's. A 99% possibility you got caught
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  by a speed camera just by driving in the UK, let's be
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  honest. There's a lot of them here,
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  yeah. And yeah, well, I'm getting my
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  my winter tyres off this week, so I'm hoping that the weather
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  doesn't take a turn like that over the next couple of days.
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  Yeah, well, I mean, luckily we'd actually had new tyres put on
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  the day before, new front tyres sort of thing.
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  It's front wheel drive car so that probably helped.
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  Yeah, that definitely helped. So not nothing as exciting as
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  that mouth, clearly. No, no, absolutely not.
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  Just busy, you know, working whatever else going on.
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  Not all bad sounds, very suspicious mouth but OK.
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  No, no, just like. I got, I had a life event this
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  week. I got reading glasses for the
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  first time. Oh, hello.
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  Yeah, I mean, I didn't, I didn't really, Yeah, I didn't really
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  like, she said. I didn't really have to get them
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  if I didn't want to. But yeah, I had noticed slight
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  blurring, like I could still read the screen here, but I have
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  to try harder, Yeah, You know, so it's just plus one, so not
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  even I think .75 maybe, Yeah, so.
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  Yeah, I know. My wife was the same a couple of
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  years ago. She was just like, I'm gonna
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  have to get these checked. It was just everything, just a
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  bit of a struggle to see stuff. And she came back.
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  She's like God damn it, I need got a reading glass.
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  I have probably go and get. My yeah, I have noticed for the
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  customising as well. It's better, you know, I mean, I
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  paint a good bit with the magnifying glass, but when
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  you're, when you're not, you know, maybe you don't need to
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  wear that all the time because it's not the easiest on the eyes
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  to have like 2 1/2 times magnification or whatever, 2
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  times magnification, sometimes right in front of your eyes.
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  That doesn't help with them getting less strange, shall we
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  say? And yeah, just the normal
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  glasses then for painting, you know, the bigger details.
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  Pretty easy then. So.
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  Yeah. But I'm quite messy, so I'm
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  afraid of getting paint on them. That would be Maybe they just
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  look cool then, you know, There you go.
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  Well, they look cool anyway. Of course, because people with
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  glasses are cool now. That's what I'm saying now,
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  Rich. Yeah.
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  Just to be clear. Absolutely.
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  You're now you're now really cool in my book there.
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  You go. I've even got 2 pairs, so I've
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  got my using the screen pair and then my distance pair here as
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  well. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I do find that annoying because I think I'd rather just
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  leave them on, you know, and have be able to just use them
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  for everything. But you know, taking them on and
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  off is a bit. It's a pain but I I tried very
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  vocals about 3 years ago now and they just make me feel ill.
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  Yeah. It's just like, that's just
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  weird that you've got different things, but if you're looking
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  down or things like that. But you know, if you're watching
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  that, you know, sports or something and you'd be scrolling
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  on your phone. Of course, you can't do the two
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  unless you're like, unless I'm like here at the laptop.
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  Maybe it will work. But if I'm in the sitting room,
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  like on the couch, the TV is too far away for the glasses to to
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  actually work. You know, that far away.
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  So anyway, so rather than continue to borrow the shite out
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  of people, my glasses. Which is Welcome to the
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  middle-aged man podcast. Yeah, next week haemorrhoids.
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  Well. We were, we were talking today
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  about whether we had booked flights for Allegiance Con and
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  we haven't yet obviously. And I think the, the I looked at
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  the emails last year, the hotel stuff came out in April.
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  So that was when I booked my flight last year.
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  But yeah, with everything that's going on in the world, it's kind
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  of I'm, I'm genuinely, I think at this moment 5050 on the whole
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  thing. Let's be honest now it's far
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  away out. If it was tomorrow, I'd maybe,
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  you know, I'd more likely still go.
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  But I'd say from this far out 5050, just because of
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  travelling, you know? Yeah.
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  Do you really have to? It's difficult.
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  To know at the moment, isn't it? The world feels up in the air,
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  so to speak, a little. You know, yeah.
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  Whereas like if, if my relative was sick back in Ireland at
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  100%, travel wouldn't even question it or whatever, or, or
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  in America, wouldn't even question it.
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  But you know, just for my own pleasure travelling.
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  Yeah. Yeah, maybe, you know, at the
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  moment doesn't feel like a fun thing to do, you know?
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  Yeah, yeah, I'm 90% going, but it's there's, you know, it
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  should be 100%, it shouldn't be an issue.
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  And there's that. There's that element of doubt
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  and you're like. OK, no, maybe I'm being an idiot
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  about it. You know, maybe I'm just too
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  comfortable in my own bubble. And there there could be an
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  element of that. And maybe it's just coming out
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  the winter you're just feeling annoyed with, with having to
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  have gone through four months of like being inside a lot and not
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  being able to do much. Maybe there's an element to
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  that, to it. But yeah, I don't know.
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  It's just, it just doesn't feel. The optimism of coming out of
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  winter, it feels like we every few days we're back in it.
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  It was sunny today, Mal. You know, I'm I'm pretty short
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  term focus to there. We go we we had we had a new
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  little fire pit arrived in the back garden earlier too, so get
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  outside now, even if it's a bit colder and you.
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  Know you will enjoy the fire pit whether you want to or not.
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  Raining, Snowing into the fire pit.
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  But yeah, it's like you were worried about the price of
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  flights going up, which I wonder if it'll go the other way, even
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  though, for example, oil and fuel I suppose is going up, at
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  least in this part of the world and flying that less people
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  might be inclined to travel. I don't know.
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  It is tricky, I've read a few websites now and they all have
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  slightly different takes on it sort of thing, but certainly
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  looking at United and the problem is I don't regularly
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  check them so I don't know, it might be a pattern of up and
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  down, up and down. But it's gone up £60 since last
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  week. Yeah.
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  Now that might just be a case of they try their luck this time of
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  year, good people are coming out of winter, they might be
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  happier, they might spend money on the holiday sort of thing
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  because I normally, it's normally June ish time that I
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  book. Yeah.
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  So it's the whole thing of well, do I pay £150 more than I
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  normally do and get a ticket now just in case it goes through the
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  roof, or do I just hold my horses?
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  Hope everything dies down and you get your normal sort of
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  price. Me would be more locking it in
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  now when I'm, you know, when I'm still feeling a little queasy
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  about it. Is maybe the thing £60?
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  OK, that sucks if you end up having to pay, you know, even a
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  hundred £6000 more. But what I'd be worried was it
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  went up to 1000, you know, or you know, from this 500 and went
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  up to 1000. Then of course, that's a real
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  question. I think up to £100 here, there,
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  you know, you know, can just say whatever, you know.
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  That's almost the exchange rate isn't it sometimes.
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  For me here, everybody, if I book it and pay more now John's
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  promise to reimburse me the difference there we there we go.
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  For me, I don't normally book until after we book the hotel,
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  so I'm just going to stick with the usual.
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  If it goes up by so much, it's then.
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  It's not meant to be, is it? You know, it's clearly saying do
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  not, do not do this. So yeah, we'll see.
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  Yeah, I mean the flight is the thing you have to lock in.
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  I suppose the hotel will book and that's always cancel blow up
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  to the week before kind of thing, isn't it?
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  You can get. Cancellable flights you just pay
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  a little bit more for. Yeah.
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  It's maybe 200, two £100 extra on top of whatever you're
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  paying. Yeah, I don't think I'm there.
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  I don't think I'm at that point yet either.
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  So, you know, maybe I'm not quite 5050 then.
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  Isn't it sad that the we've numbers have this conversation?
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  Yeah, but I mean, just say abroad, I wouldn't bring it up
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  just for the sake of being dramatic.
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  It's just, I guess some other people might be feeling the
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  same, but I feel a bit like I do.
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  I sound like a total weakling if I talk about this and the groups
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  are with my friends. So I'll just like, I don't know,
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  balls it out or, you know, play it cool.
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  But I think it's worth having the discussion.
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  You know, it's not, it's not to say what you know, it's not to
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  have an opinion on what's going on.
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  It's more just, you know, whatever is all the stuff that's
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  going on in the world, which we don't need to talk about in this
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  podcast, is, is having an effect on everything else.
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  You know, and then it's that effect that that makes people
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  feel, you know, one way or another, you know, less likely
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  travel. Are you going to feel less
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  welcome or, you know, is is there going to be an air of
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  tension? The the big elections in America
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  are just the time when. Yeah, midterms.
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  So I don't think we'd see the effect of that at all.
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  But you know, what if I don't know, what if there's loads of
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  protests afterwards and then, you know, the airport gets
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  blocked up or whatever it might be, you know?
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  Hey you never know, maybe AI will take over and will be wiped
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  out before then. The robot.
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  Overlords will take over, so it's like you know.
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  That's it. Maybe that would be for the
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  best, yeah. Connor will show up and he's the
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  guy who comes back from the future.
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  Kyle Reese. Kyle Reese.
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  That's it. Yeah, like the guy in the Cabal
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  today with his dwarf AI movie. I didn't say that I've barely
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  been on Facebook. Even though, well, apparently he
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  works in the movies and it's all going to AI anyway now so we
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  shouldn't be feeling bad about about.
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  That, as someone said, it's like a Turkey, voting for Christmas,
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  embracing it, if you work in that sort of environment, yeah.
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  I think I think it's more it's soulless.
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  I think. Yeah, he's he's kind of claiming
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  that, oh, it's just, you know, a concept for a film.
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  We like, we'd still make this, but all the film concepts are
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  going to AI. But that's just one more step
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  for, you know, some executive to say, you know, do we need to pay
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  these actors then? Do we need to whatever, pay the
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  guys to build the sets And you know, suddenly you've got.
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  Yeah. You know you've got all that.
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  I think so. There's not.
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  That just rips the soul out of it, doesn't it?
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  You know. Yeah, I think there's an
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  argument that it's a very useful tool in the hands of people who
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  are already know what they're doing and understand what
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  they're doing and and the choices and the decisions that
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  behind what they're doing. But the money men and the
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  managers, because it's not just that industry, it's other
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  industries actually their goal is to save money and do it.
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  And if do it the cheap cheapest because it's not realist
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  actually real terms cheaper the cheapest way possible.
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  And unfortunately that doesn't take into account something
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  being done well a lot of the time.
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  So I mean. The only good thing about that
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  dwarf thing was it showed the AI can't do a better Scottish
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  accent than me. It was.
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  The first accent, yeah, was terrible, yeah.
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  It's like, yeah, that's fine. AI can't do anything better than
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  you rich. Oh, thank you, Mal.
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  Yeah, especially stick man drawings do.
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  You know what I mean? I'd like to see it match that
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  level. Of it's just there wouldn't be
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  as much love. And even with the thumbnails for
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  the for the show, you know, sometimes they, oh, I could, I
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  could ask AI to do it. And I've tried a few times and
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  maybe it's me, maybe it's it's, I'm not able to use it properly,
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  but it always ends up being crap, more crap than I would do
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  and and not saving me time. So in the end, I'm just kind of
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  call it and go, OK, you know what?
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  I'm going to just do it myself. I I asked, I asked AI because
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  we're being encouraged to use AI at work, as you can imagine.
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  But again, you know, as a tool. Well, yeah, but.
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  You're trying. They're trying to replace you.
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  You know so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Umm. Train it up now train up that
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  AI. But please.
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  I asked it how to do a like a configuration file for something
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  delivered. It wouldn't work at all.
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  So I did the old go to of what I've always done, went and
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  watched some a video of someone doing it on YouTube.
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  And guess what? That was how I ended up working
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  it out. Not with AI telling me what it
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  should do, how it should be done.
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  So there you go. That's how good AI is, yeah.
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  That's terrible. A lot of things, or some things
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  anyway, but yeah. What did I send you that video
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  the other day from it was ABBC interview where the the is it
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  Hannah Fry? She's talking to the Indian guy
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  about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah about these, these AI bots, but
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  not not the ones that like, you know, do the the chat box stuff,
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  but the ones that are just basically doing their own
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  thinking and coming up with their own stuff and.
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  The terms. Yeah, they just go off and just.
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  They're chatting about. Yeah, yeah, they're chatting
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  about how to do fraud, you know, how to do fraud properly and all
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  this kind of stuff and how to get away with murder.
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  It's frightening, completely scary.
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  You know they. Come across as having a life of
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  their own. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  That's it. It's agents and versus the one
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  that people are using to do their work and that language,
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  large language language models. That's right.
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  Yeah, I think that's still a lot of people into a false sense of
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  security. You know, it's like it just does
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  what they tell us. Yeah, when we were in recruiting
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  in the last year or so, the amount of AI filled completed
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  application forms we get, it's just ridiculous.
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  You read them and you're like, that's the same exact wording as
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  this other person used and you're like, that's because this
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  is all just total nonsense that the computers done for them.
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  Well, 40% improvement seems to be a thing it.
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  Really does, yeah. Every everyone, whatever they
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  did improved outcome by 40%. It was actually 35% with my
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  almost been six different ones I read all had 35% in this and
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  then they said 35% in something else.
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  I'm like watch randomly. It's the same percentage change
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  in every single thing you look at, OK?
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  Bring them into Vin for an into you.
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  You are Mr 35 and they look Yeah.
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  And you just go down through the CV and then RIP it up and go
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  right out the door, put it in front of them.
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  On the table and you smack a table like a bad pop moment and
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  just go tell me which bot wrote this?
• 20:09
  Which bot wrote it? Yeah, absolutely.
• 20:17
  And, you know, just teach them a lesson and say come at least the
• 20:21
  next time change the figures, you know, into random numbers,
• 20:25
  you know, but that's part of the training the next time they are.
• 20:28
  But we'll just put in random numbers for them, you know,
• 20:35
  radio. Anything else from you guys know
• 20:37
  what's coming up in the next week or two?
• 20:40
  Nothing. Or get to try a new office chair
• 20:44
  out. That's very exciting.
• 20:47
  Yeah. We're, we're moving offices at
• 20:49
  the start of next year, January next year.
• 20:52
  We meant to, meant to moved offices about 3 years ago.
• 20:55
  It's, you know, typical British government, it's taking forever.
• 20:58
  But they people like me who have like a special chair, so like
• 21:02
  some facts, support and all this sort of stuff, they don't want
• 21:05
  to take those with us. So they're like, Oh no, we've
• 21:07
  got these super duper new chairs in the new place.
• 21:09
  Now that will will work no matter what your back issue is,
• 21:11
  whatever height you are and this sort of stuff.
• 21:13
  So yeah, so each of us get to trial on for a day.
• 21:15
  So yeah, yeah, time I will have this fancy chair.
• 21:20
  I said I was saying to everybody, workers like nobody
• 21:22
  get jealous now that I'm trialling out this new exciting
• 21:24
  chair. So yeah, this is what my life is
• 21:27
  now. I get to try a new chair, right?
• 21:29
  That on a similar vein. Getting old kids.
• 21:32
  So that made me chuckle is we we decided to get drip fed our, you
• 21:37
  know, yearly training, one of which is your display screen
• 21:40
  equipment training. So, you know, working from home
• 21:43
  and you've got to talk about you where your monitor is and where
• 21:46
  your laptop eye level is and all this sort of thing.
• 21:49
  And it's telling you what you should have at home in your home
• 21:51
  setup. And I'm laughing away because my
• 21:54
  home setup is, you know, with all this in mind, because it is
• 21:58
  good for you, is much better than my office setup, which is
• 22:01
  designed for everyone and as a result can't actually be
• 22:06
  adjusted to everything that you need it to be adjusted to.
• 22:09
  So I spend my life like this at work because my laptop has to
• 22:12
  sit up here somewhere. So I was in bits doing this,
• 22:16
  training past it, obviously, because, you know, of course,
• 22:19
  yeah. Yeah.
• 22:23
  Yeah. Easter break is coming up.
• 22:26
  That's good. So yeah, the kids.
• 22:28
  Have two weeks off. My wife has two weeks off so.
• 22:32
  Nice, yeah, I've got, I've got a week's holiday so back up to
• 22:36
  back up to North Wales, so some shitty sleep for a week so.
• 22:39
  OK, good. Oh, we'd have to figure out the
• 22:42
  podcast that week then. Yes.
• 22:46
  Wait for Maybe you can try and do it from your phone.
• 22:48
  Does that would that work I. Can give it a GET.
• 22:50
  This you can get the stream aired up.
• 22:52
  Absolutely. Yeah, we can have some.
• 22:56
  We can have some guests anyway just in case it doesn't work out
• 23:00
  or and then if if it does work out, they'll enhance the show in
• 23:04
  their own way. Yeah, but who they are, and
• 23:06
  obviously they'll never look up to me, but apartment?
• 23:11
  I see retailer St Datas today, the 18th.
• 23:14
  Of course, she's recording. Yeah.
• 23:16
  Any news, Rich? Important recall sent an e-mail
• 23:20
  out couple of two or three weeks ago saying that they're not
• 23:24
  going to have their stock and clear into March because it
• 23:27
  hadn't even left China at a certain point sort of thing.
• 23:30
  Oh, they're getting end. Of March before we get it so you
• 23:34
  have to wait like cool there we. Go and pay extra.
• 23:37
  Great. Yeah.
• 23:38
  Thanks guys. Wasn't too bad at that point to
• 23:42
  be fair. They've gotten worse I think,
• 23:45
  price wise. Yeah.
• 23:47
  No, actually I haven't heard. Maybe it's the same shipment
• 23:51
  then. I haven't heard anything from my
• 23:52
  retailers with the extras or the retailer wave so.
• 23:55
  Somebody did say that about, yeah, one of the German, I can't
• 23:58
  remember which one it was, one of the German retailers said the
• 24:00
  retailer Wave and the Rising Suns will be lit, end of.
• 24:03
  March as well as well, so yeah. I did my stuff that I
• 24:09
  pre-ordered from Big Bad. I did get notification of
• 24:12
  payment for that. So that's a chunk of money going
• 24:15
  out. That was Retailer Wave and
• 24:17
  extras for Rising Suns all coming out.
• 24:22
  It's like, yeah. That's the one positive with the
• 24:27
  important stuff. At least I paid that off, yes,
• 24:29
  but I've got the retailer wave come in.
• 24:32
  That's from a German retailer. It's going to John to forward
• 24:35
  on. Thank you, John.
• 24:37
  I also have three lots of the Dwarf 2 pack coming from a
• 24:39
  German retailer. I didn't mention it, John, but
• 24:41
  thank you very much for accepting those on my behalf as
• 24:43
  well. That's very kind of you.
• 24:44
  OK, no problem. They're pretty packaging all
• 24:47
  together that just shouldn't be 1.
• 24:50
  Box They're just going to take out the the horn the the dwarf
• 24:54
  drinking horn accessory in each of them.
• 24:57
  That seems fair enough. That's a fair price and go with
• 24:59
  that. No, you can't be without that.
• 25:01
  It's the best accessory in it. Cool accessories.
• 25:06
  Yeah, I I did notice on this kick track the the Kickstarter
• 25:11
  tracker for the thing It was it was in the minus today.
• 25:15
  So people were take like cancelling pledges and I'm
• 25:18
  guessing it's some of those big bad toy store invoice people.
• 25:21
  I. Suspect.
• 25:22
  Yeah, that would make sense, yeah.
• 25:24
  Yeah, when things start to land all the same time, it's never,
• 25:29
  it's never good. And I guess it's often this time
• 25:32
  of the year after Chinese New Year or just things ship just
• 25:37
  before Chinese New Year, you know, trying to get them out the
• 25:39
  door and then they arrive over around this time.
• 25:43
  And then also what now? It's also some people, it's
• 25:47
  going to be taxes time as well, isn't it, I mean.
• 25:49
  But that means more money generally so.
• 25:51
  Depends. Yeah, what they do.
• 25:53
  Yeah, it depends. Or maybe, yeah, some people
• 25:55
  might have to pay. They've been bold or earning too
• 25:58
  much money. How dare they?
• 26:01
  How dare they? Earn too much money.
• 26:03
  The joys. Or get falsely accused by eBay.
• 26:06
  Isn't it right, Rich? Yes, by HMRC on eBay.
• 26:10
  Yes, bless him. Or I'll be fine on behalf of
• 26:14
  your eBay. I'll be fine, but it's just a
• 26:16
  fat story. I mean, it's just.
• 26:18
  Like nobody likes that hassle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:22
  Yes, I'd I sent them a picture in my display room.
• 26:25
  Look, really, I just like figures.
• 26:28
  Yeah, that's quite funny that that's what you had to do.
• 26:31
  You know, clearly not selling them, am I?
• 26:34
  Yeah. Just send them a link to this.
• 26:36
  I'm literally not a link to this.
• 26:37
  On me just by taking them out-of-the-box.
• 26:39
  Send them a link to this podcast.
• 26:41
  Yeah, yeah, I. Don't want to bore them, Won't
• 26:43
  stay. Awake.
• 26:46
  What are you saying about our listeners?
• 26:51
  I sincerely apologise, listeners, for what you have to
• 26:53
  go through this thus far this week.
• 26:55
  But you know, we're delivering, we need to delivering bonus
• 27:00
  episodes for our patrons as well.
• 27:01
  So we'd have to come up with some stuff when.
• 27:03
  You get back on the riches randoms thing as well actually.
• 27:04
  John as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:07
  I want to come up with a few, a few others as well, but I don't
• 27:12
  know, I'm just not feeling inspired at the moment.
• 27:14
  I don't know what it is. Well, as you said, it's, it's
• 27:17
  just that coming out of winter sort of time of year, isn't it?
• 27:19
  Basically, as Miles said, you know, lovely sunny day today and
• 27:22
  they're probably like 15° colder tomorrow and raining and it's
• 27:25
  just like. Yeah.
• 27:28
  You kind of think you've got your life back and then.
• 27:30
  Oh, no, yeah. Next weekend.
• 27:35
  I saw our friends in Michigan had snow again this week, but
• 27:40
  like buckets of it and -7 or something degrees centigrade.
• 27:47
  That's awful, isn't it? I mean, some people love that,
• 27:50
  but I think middle of March, that's a bit much, no?
• 27:53
  Unless you live in Canada, but then even then I'm sure that
• 27:56
  Canadians think it's a bit much. The older I get, the more I just
• 28:00
  want to move somewhere that's warm and dry all year round.
• 28:02
  I don't need seasons, I just want warm and dry.
• 28:07
  Yeah, A. Few years ago and it was a few
• 28:09
  years ago Alex Hollywood and then up in the north of Scotland
• 28:14
  they it was in March, they had 27 or something like that
• 28:18
  degrees for a couple of days might be in 2425 and then a week
• 28:24
  later they had like 2 years now it was just like this is just
• 28:27
  ridiculous. Which I was before I had kids.
• 28:34
  Used to go on the odd golf trip and we went one year to
• 28:37
  Casablanca in Morocco, which is near enough the equator.
• 28:41
  The there's a nice, it was a nice little resort there that
• 28:44
  the lads found and it was kind of all self-contained so it was
• 28:48
  perfect. You could go for like 4 days and
• 28:51
  basically eat, drink and play your golf and all you see is
• 28:56
  that in the airport. A bit like legions gone except
• 28:57
  for golf, you know. But the guys, you know, the guys
• 29:03
  there were saying, so we still was gone January because there's
• 29:05
  a perfect time to go because weather there was always good.
• 29:09
  And they said, yeah, it's always like mid 20s here and it always
• 29:13
  gets dark between 6:00 and 7:00 in the evening all year round
• 29:16
  because it's so close to the equator.
• 29:19
  But yeah. And it's hardly ever the odd
• 29:21
  time they'll get a bit of rain and stuff.
• 29:23
  Obviously they'd but in general it's and it never gets too warm
• 29:28
  either because of where they are.
• 29:29
  They're near the coast and wherever they are.
• 29:33
  So apart from, you know, we were staying in the in the hotel, but
• 29:39
  like their areas around were not great.
• 29:41
  So that's the only problem with some of those type of places for
• 29:45
  the weather is perfect. They're there mightn't be the
• 29:49
  best places to actually live. Yeah, yeah.
• 29:52
  In terms of what you might be used to as a standard of living.
• 29:55
  So yeah, yeah. Don't you get high speed
• 29:59
  Internet, for example? Maybe that's for the best.
• 30:08
  Well, you know, they thought they had that in Dubai.
• 30:10
  This is true. Yeah.
• 30:15
  So this is how things can change.
• 30:17
  And yeah, indeed, Kickstarter, just a quick check in there
• 30:22
  874,000 I checked last. I didn't do the graphs this week
• 30:27
  because it was it was too depressing when it wasn't really
• 30:30
  depressing was just nothing is happening because it's that
• 30:33
  middle. It's what you expect, isn't it?
• 30:34
  At this point, yeah. It's on the slope.
• 30:38
  Yeah, it was 840, so it's about 3033 thousand or something this
• 30:45
  week comments. What's, what are people talking
• 30:50
  about? People are saying about the
• 30:53
  momentum, but I think I don't think forests are worried at
• 30:57
  this point because it's done so well so far.
• 31:02
  And I'm sure they'll be doing a big push for the final week.
• 31:07
  So I think that's where it's going to sit right now.
• 31:11
  I'd be really intrigued to see how they're doing in terms of
• 31:14
  new people. I don't obviously I'll never
• 31:16
  tell us about how they did in terms of new people just coming
• 31:19
  in for the game and whether it is still just massively driven
• 31:24
  by the figures or whether they have been able to.
• 31:26
  I mean, hopefully they've been able to reach out to the gaming
• 31:29
  communities and that sort of thing and got a good influx from
• 31:31
  there. Yeah.
• 31:33
  I mean, like if someone comes in and just backs the game, you
• 31:38
  know, they're not spending much more than 100, if even that.
• 31:42
  Whereas the crazy figure people, it's kind of minimum 3400 to get
• 31:49
  the all the figures. So, you know, that's the
• 31:52
  difference so that it would wouldn't go up that quickly if
• 31:56
  there was extra game people in, but it would be cool to get
• 32:00
  those people on board. I think for for for getting the
• 32:03
  game out there and played. And because I think that's going
• 32:07
  to be important. Next bit is actually people
• 32:10
  playing the game because a lot of people now the figure people
• 32:15
  will have ordered the all in box or, you know, the whatever other
• 32:20
  deals with the word where it comes with the core game and
• 32:23
  then maybe take out the minis or take out the standees and the
• 32:29
  dice and the map and that's it. And never actually play the
• 32:32
  game. So, you know, yeah, to get the
• 32:39
  game going. So we'll try and as I said,
• 32:44
  we'll try and have a game. I'm completely clueless on that,
• 32:49
  but willing to learn. But I don't think I'm nerdy
• 32:52
  enough to run to be the one running the game, because I
• 32:55
  think that's the one, the person that needs to be super nerdy.
• 32:59
  Yeah, no, yeah, I think there's a bit of thinking.
• 33:02
  I mean in a good way. Now like well and somebody
• 33:05
  experienced and done it before we as he played those sorts of
• 33:08
  games preferably before as well. Yeah, they had a Kickstarter
• 33:12
  update this week about the faction rank system in the game,
• 33:16
  and I was reading that. It's cool but like halfway
• 33:19
  through those like wow I'm not nerdy enough for this.
• 33:24
  No, no, Norman. You know, you know whoa.
• 33:30
  Yeah, so nerdy. Oh God yeah, nerds.
• 33:33
  I am way too square and vanilla and plain with this.
• 33:37
  You know, I realise the reason I'm on a podcast is because I
• 33:42
  know how to do the techie bit, not the nerdy bit.
• 33:49
  So yeah. So any you guys that nerdy?
• 33:53
  I was when I was younger, so I think Urgent Hero Quest before
• 33:57
  it was like the board game and I used to be the Dungeon Master
• 34:00
  equivalent in that sort of thing, but it wasn't as advanced
• 34:03
  as this, you know, you weren't doing the voices and all this
• 34:05
  sort of stuff. So technically yes, but I'm not.
• 34:07
  I think I'm probably too lazy to do that now as well.
• 34:10
  Yeah, there's an element of that, Yeah, when I read it.
• 34:12
  For sure, I've done a little bit of DM ING I don't know, OK.
• 34:16
  Yeah, I feel like you'd be the the the more likely of a smell
• 34:20
  to, to have that ability. Yeah, to throw yourself into it.
• 34:25
  I do voices as well. Shock horror.
• 34:28
  We've done the readings. I mean, I'm definitely willing
• 34:30
  to throw myself into a voice. Yeah, You know, I'm old enough
• 34:34
  to make an idiot in myself, that's for sure.
• 34:37
  You know, Or think that I make an idiot in myself, you know?
• 34:41
  When I, yeah, I mean, Jeremy talked about it on one of his
• 34:43
  shows. When I played DND with my mates,
• 34:46
  it was, you know, none of this more modern way of doing it, of
• 34:50
  the, of a map with, you know, your minis.
• 34:53
  It was all up here. And, you know, theatre of the
• 34:56
  mind Jeremy called it, which that was a good, good way of
• 34:59
  describing it. And so, yeah.
• 35:02
  I mean, that's you have to probably the most accessible way
• 35:05
  to do it anyway, you know, because.
• 35:06
  Yeah, yeah, that'd be how I did it.
• 35:08
  Now, I think just because it's cheaper as well than having to
• 35:12
  buy terrain and minis and you know and all that.
• 35:15
  I know we're getting a lot of maps.
• 35:17
  And we have the figure still as well, you know, So yeah, you can
• 35:20
  build your own figure. So yeah.
• 35:22
  Which is a fun thing. Shall we look at the minis?
• 35:27
  Because that was we were given more updated scopes of those
• 35:32
  this week. So given this picture here first
• 35:37
  to introduce them. So we got a bunch of pictures of
• 35:42
  the renders. So I've got I've got them here 1
• 35:44
  by 1 as well. Got the dwarf and the clear.
• 35:49
  What's what's she again? Mage The Mage Paladin.
• 35:53
  And she had Druid. Druid.
• 35:56
  Sorry, Druid. Yeah.
• 35:58
  Isn't it? Yeah.
• 35:58
  Yeah, yeah. Which is what that is, yeah.
• 36:01
  Yeah, the other female here, she's the wizard, another one of
• 36:08
  the Knights, I guess the paladin one is to Yeah, that this night
• 36:13
  is just a it looks like a normal horse.
• 36:15
  In the old school ones, doesn't it more like say so ignatious or
• 36:19
  somebody like that? Yeah, and.
• 36:24
  There a way? Frontier the the skeleton and
• 36:27
  the orc here. So these are being sculpted by
• 36:31
  Carlos Amari. OK.
• 36:34
  And so this came by way of an artist feature through the
• 36:37
  updates. So he's worked on a bunch of
• 36:41
  games before, miniatures for games.
• 36:44
  So stuff like A Song of Ice of Fire by Seamon.
• 36:49
  So Seamon is a big gaming producer.
• 36:53
  They do a lot of kick starters for their games.
• 36:55
  So yeah, Conan he's done as well.
• 37:00
  Orc Quest to name but a few, so. Lily knows his stuff then.
• 37:09
  Yeah, exactly. And he's got his own.
• 37:13
  He's got his own Warthog work workshop where he's creating 3D
• 37:17
  printable STL files and developing board games.
• 37:20
  So seems to be a bit of a freelance guy and he's an avid
• 37:24
  action figure collector, so he must be very happy.
• 37:28
  He's excited to work on this project which combines a bit of
• 37:33
  everything. So let's have a look at more
• 37:35
  detail. Orc there.
• 37:38
  He looked very cool. I mean, they're very.
• 37:40
  Well detailed too. Yeah, yeah, that's the one thing
• 37:43
  I'm I'm not sure. I mean, I'm sure they've said
• 37:45
  before they were going to be 28 mil medias, but they almost look
• 37:49
  like they could be heroic scale, which is what the old Games
• 37:52
  Workshop and they probably still are so slightly oversized.
• 37:57
  You know, they're not they're not built like normal human
• 38:01
  proportions. They've got slightly bigger
• 38:03
  muscles or slight. They almost look like they might
• 38:05
  be that, but I'm sure they said they were going to be 28 mil.
• 38:09
  Maybe they didn't. Maybe they did say they'd be
• 38:11
  heroic. I don't know.
• 38:13
  No, I mean. I presume they'll leave whatever
• 38:14
  whatever the main DND was sizes so that people can mix and match
• 38:19
  that was thought. Yeah, which is I think 28 mil.
• 38:23
  But I think this, there's obviously a way of sculpting
• 38:25
  them, that you can still have a lot of detail.
• 38:27
  And when you produce them at the 28, you might see all the
• 38:31
  detail, but it's there and it doesn't look out of place, you
• 38:35
  know? Yeah, yeah.
• 38:37
  And I remember Cameron talking about that.
• 38:40
  Some of the things have to be exaggerated, like the weapons
• 38:43
  you have to make bigger, because otherwise they look like little
• 38:46
  matchsticks in the hands of the figures if you put them in the
• 38:49
  right proportion, just the way it works at this scale.
• 38:53
  So we'd see a few of those things here.
• 38:56
  Here is the Druid lady. You can see like the the ropes
• 39:02
  on her tunic, they're much thicker and bigger than than
• 39:07
  actually they are. The belt as well looks a bit
• 39:10
  bigger than it would normally be, but I think that that just
• 39:15
  works at that scale. It's very cool.
• 39:17
  Very. Cool, the way the the bird is on
• 39:20
  the arm looks really great. Yeah, and he's got his rings
• 39:23
  open and like the. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 39:26
  And more to paint there than as well if you were painting these.
• 39:32
  I thought suddenly as well, actually we talked about 28 mil.
• 39:34
  That's going to be nothing to our American listeners.
• 39:37
  That's 28 millimetres, guys, just over an inch tall.
• 39:41
  Or the way you, the way you list things, probably an eighth of a
• 39:44
  chopped up hot dog, something like that.
• 39:48
  It's that, yeah. I think, I think, I think when
• 39:50
  it comes to miniature sizes, it's universal.
• 39:53
  So anyone who knows miniatures or no, I think yeah.
• 39:57
  But we're watching ER and on the doctor talk is in centimetres
• 40:02
  and millimetres and stuff and and litres and and.
• 40:08
  Millilitres. So you know, I think it's just
• 40:13
  more accurate, isn't it? And when you're in a medical
• 40:16
  setting, you need to be accurate and the dwarf.
• 40:20
  So good. He looks so beefy.
• 40:23
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even the the rivets here are
• 40:27
  definitely bigger than than in scale, but that works perfectly.
• 40:33
  Look at the hammer. Awesome.
• 40:37
  Really. Yeah, can't wait to attend to
• 40:41
  paint these. And these make me think I'm like
• 40:43
  4. Times set.
• 40:44
  Yeah, the set set is only $5. Yeah, yeah, for the unpainted.
• 40:52
  Like, well, that's it, isn't it? It's like get the get the get
• 40:54
  what get set so they're they stay unpainted and then it's set
• 40:59
  to paint. Oh, you're crazy now if you just
• 41:01
  keep the Oscar. And say mile.
• 41:05
  So, Adam, at $5, I would say fill your boots.
• 41:08
  That's not like that's not the worst, you know, getting an
• 41:10
  extra figure obscure to keep in box that's more expensive than
• 41:13
  this. And the Wizards, Yeah, the
• 41:22
  wizard here, she's looking great.
• 41:25
  Yeah. Magic effects they're going to
• 41:28
  paint. Yeah, I love the fact that they
• 41:30
  look very much like the magic effects you got.
• 41:32
  You know, they could have done something a bit different, but
• 41:35
  no, they're stuck to what legions have sort of thing, that
• 41:38
  sort of effect. I love further the poses as
• 41:42
  well. I think they've got some really
• 41:43
  cool poses. Yeah, it's one of them where
• 41:45
  she's sort of thrusting the the magic forward.
• 41:47
  That's how it feels like she's driving the magic forward to
• 41:50
  cast it. It's like looking at my display
• 41:52
  shelves, to be honest, Mouth all these dynamic poses, you know,
• 41:57
  as anyone's ever seen a customer, I've put, you know,
• 41:59
  put online. But I was just about to say that
• 42:03
  they they don't look like action figure poses because you know,
• 42:07
  they're static things. And so actually saying the
• 42:10
  opposite of what you just said. And but we know you were you
• 42:14
  were just being ironic based on that was.
• 42:17
  I took some photos of some new customs actually.
• 42:20
  The. Well, in Anglesey, Umm, I
• 42:22
  apologise to John in advance. Yeah, the the.
• 42:25
  Very said that texted sorry in advance.
• 42:28
  Not not like I'm king of posing either.
• 42:30
  I'm just lighting the off about it.
• 42:31
  You know, you could easily hop on one of my pictures the next
• 42:37
  time I post one. I tried one in a different,
• 42:40
  slightly more adventurous post. I'm not convinced it works, but
• 42:43
  I can go with it. Just so you know.
• 42:46
  It's like a moan about you moaning at me John, when I post
• 42:48
  it so. Although you know, sometimes
• 42:50
  with customs as well it's nearly better to give them pretty
• 42:52
  vanilla poses because you don't want to be at risk.
• 42:57
  Yeah. Scratch and paint.
• 42:59
  So here's a night. This looks like you know the
• 43:01
  original Night builder built for.
• 43:05
  Yeah, thorough lane vibes. That's yeah, it's got that
• 43:09
  definitely, hasn't it? Yeah.
• 43:10
  Yeah, but you can paint. Same sort of colour armour too.
• 43:13
  Yeah, yeah, that's Wayne. Armour was quite dumb.
• 43:20
  That's right, we on it was. Sorry.
• 43:25
  So so a wine. Sorry.
• 43:26
  I'll get to look like Wayne for pronouncing it wrongly as well,
• 43:29
  so yeah. And again, exaggerated details
• 43:36
  here, but it works perfectly with the figures.
• 43:39
  Big sword yet? Looks like the ridges in the
• 43:42
  armour are pretty prime. Looks like the ridges in the
• 43:45
  armour are pretty prominent as well.
• 43:46
  But yeah, will be cool. Makes more fun it'll.
• 43:49
  Be great for picking them out. I mean for dry brushing for
• 43:51
  example, that would be pretty handy too.
• 43:54
  Over brush them as well. Easier than you know, picking
• 43:57
  up. Plenty is based on that shield
• 44:00
  to do a little character free hand, yeah.
• 44:03
  Or you can do a free hand, yeah. Well, I wonder if we'll get some
• 44:07
  of the OR even the horseman doing transfers that you could
• 44:11
  use? Oh yeah, they will work at this
• 44:13
  scale, of course of this. Loads of ones you can just buy.
• 44:16
  Oh yeah. For other figures, Yeah.
• 44:18
  Or we get Rich to do one of his drawings on the.
• 44:22
  Shield a transfer sheet of richest drawing, Yeah.
• 44:25
  Oh, Patriot bonus for next year's.
• 44:28
  Richard, if you shrink them down enough, they may even look quite
• 44:30
  good. What's that little squiggle on
• 44:36
  the front of the shield? Got to get you to do Rich Jane
• 44:40
  special versions of all the chapter symbols.
• 44:43
  They're badges. I just.
• 44:48
  Then this is the. On the on the spot, I'm
• 44:50
  literally. Making this for that malice.
• 44:52
  Yeah, I know. I'm quite impressed with it.
• 44:56
  Sorry, John, carry on. This is the Paladin, then?
• 45:00
  Yeah, he looks. Cool, another great pose as.
• 45:02
  Well, yeah, the great pose, you see a bit of chainmail there, so
• 45:05
  you can see how that looks at this scale.
• 45:08
  Already a cool little bit of customising you could do.
• 45:10
  If you like to customise your minis, just buy a buy one of
• 45:14
  these like Warhammer sets where he's got a shield and you could
• 45:17
  stick a shield on that arm in the background.
• 45:20
  There you go, easy enough to do. Oh God, we'll all be going into
• 45:24
  Warhammer shops now, trying to get a little bits, you know,
• 45:27
  buying a whole box of stuff because you want a shield.
• 45:31
  There's places online that sell bits and pieces.
• 45:34
  Age of Sigma that's. The one, well, I've called.
• 45:37
  I think it's fun to know what you're called.
• 45:39
  Yeah, I've popped into a Warhammer shop in Bristol
• 45:41
  weekend before last. I just wanted to get a pot of
• 45:45
  some sort, you know, generic silver paint sort of thing for,
• 45:48
  yeah, some touch ups on doing a custom and my daughters with me.
• 45:53
  So she, she basically refused to go in the shop.
• 45:55
  Fair enough. And then stood outside for like
• 45:57
  10 minutes while I perused and then came out without buying
• 45:59
  anything. And she was like, Oh my God,
• 46:01
  you're so embarrassing. It's like, thank you.
• 46:02
  Yeah, there we go. Did you not get this paint?
• 46:06
  I couldn't decide. I came back with that I had some
• 46:10
  already at home and I couldn't remember what for the definite
• 46:12
  what I want and I'm too tight to spend like 350 or whatever it is
• 46:15
  on a pot of paint that I'm already have so.
• 46:21
  I think what a good. Silver paint is skeleton, so.
• 46:28
  Any of them really. But yeah, I think this skeleton
• 46:31
  LED Belcher, awesome LED belt, which is a good one, yeah.
• 46:33
  That's the one I think I've got already, so yeah, OK.
• 46:36
  That's really Fang steel then That's another one.
• 46:41
  Give him a little bit of a wash and add a bit of a depth and
• 46:44
  oiliness to them. Always looks good.
• 46:46
  Easy, easy to easy job. I think here.
• 46:50
  This looks so good like this. It does, I think maybe even
• 46:54
  better than the figure, he says quietly.
• 46:56
  Under his breath. Don't tell Brett.
• 47:03
  Yeah, very cool, Bony dude. The hands look great, don't
• 47:06
  they? On the on the weapon.
• 47:08
  They do. Yeah, again, going to be really
• 47:12
  interesting to see the minis in hand then after seeing.
• 47:16
  These Yeah, really excited seeing these pictures.
• 47:20
  I love minis and that's. Also love the way these pictures
• 47:23
  are done. You got the, you know, the main
• 47:25
  one here, the reverse side there, and then the kind of
• 47:28
  silhouette in the background. Yeah, it's really cool.
• 47:34
  There's a whole lot of them there, just in a row, easy to
• 47:38
  see, looking great. Yeah, hope we get some more
• 47:43
  teases of the minis, but they might not want to show them all
• 47:46
  off and give them all away, I suppose, like that.
• 47:48
  But it's cool that they're offering them painted as well.
• 47:51
  I mean, yes, you know. Yes.
• 47:53
  I mean, that's and again, really cheap.
• 47:54
  You get $20 yeah for YEAH. That's, I don't know how they're
• 48:00
  managing that to be honest, but no complaints.
• 48:06
  Yeah, no, not unless the the person painting them painting
• 48:10
  like I would, in which case I have very much have a complaint
• 48:12
  even at $5. I'd be interested to see how
• 48:14
  they do that, yeah. Can you imagine?
• 48:21
  There we go next. So, skeleton, what's wrong?
• 48:30
  I wanted to to bring up this picture here then as well, and
• 48:34
  this is a skeleton from my I did buy at some stage, but five
• 48:39
  years ago the the Player's Handbook for DND.
• 48:43
  It's cool just to have his book even if you never play.
• 48:46
  Lots of cool art. But I noticed this skeleton in
• 48:49
  it, and it's just a generic skeleton, but it's not.
• 48:54
  It's not far off the mix between the two skeletons we get through
• 49:00
  the RPG. You could easily kick back shit
• 49:03
  from what parts that exist anyway, couldn't you say?
• 49:06
  Yeah, no, these are. It's more like torn pants here.
• 49:09
  It's not, you know, the kind. After, yeah, you know.
• 49:11
  Skirt piece that you get with legions but the style is not far
• 49:17
  off and it has hair OK. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:21
  Excuse me. Sorry.
• 49:22
  But definitely in the DND style, so very good.
• 49:26
  This is my love. Even the skeletons have got
• 49:28
  hair. It's just like it's just me.
• 49:31
  So yeah, I'd recommend that that if you're interested, especially
• 49:34
  in playing the game, I think a good way to get a head start is
• 49:37
  that Player's Handbook for DNDI think 5th edition is the version
• 49:44
  you need to get. Then our friend Kirby Smith, he
• 49:50
  posted a cool post in the Cabal. I'm going to rub his picture
• 49:54
  here. Now all the different types you
• 49:58
  can have, types of character you can have I think professions he
• 50:01
  called them. So I just thought I'd bring this
• 50:06
  up quickly. He was trying to match the
• 50:08
  professions with the figures that we already have in the line
• 50:12
  and it first with the RPG. So you see the two figures.
• 50:17
  There's the cleric, we have the paladin twice.
• 50:20
  We have two fighters, which is the barbarian and the skeleton.
• 50:23
  We've 2 Barbarians, which is the barbarian, fighter and the the
• 50:28
  orc barbarian. We got a rogue, we got a Ranger,
• 50:33
  the tiger guy, we got wizard and a druid.
• 50:39
  Eiger guy, it's. A Jaguar.
• 50:43
  Jaguar. Sorry, Jaguar.
• 50:45
  Come on. A cat.
• 50:46
  You know a cat. Don't get me back on the old dog
• 50:48
  versus the again. Slip of the tongue here, Rich,
• 50:51
  Come on. Blindly not a dog, you know.
• 51:00
  No, as we mentioned dogs. I know pussy when I see it.
• 51:07
  Can't believe you're lowering the tone again this week, John.
• 51:12
  Don't entertain the listeners. I mean, come on to listen to
• 51:15
  this. Shape for this as you've used
• 51:18
  the word word dog I will check a very early hint into the
• 51:22
  listeners that anyone enjoyed our dog sculpts at Legions Con
• 51:26
  last year. The 1st 6 for this year have
• 51:29
  been done done by John Luca. They're amazing.
• 51:33
  I'll be getting Mark to paint them soon.
• 51:35
  And yeah, watch this space. Yeah, I think they might even be
• 51:39
  better than last year's they. 'D want to be, wouldn't they?
• 51:44
  Yeah. I don't mean.
• 51:48
  Continuous improvement that. Means the dog sculpts.
• 51:51
  They're definitely better than the shark sculpts.
• 51:53
  And that's nothing against Jean Lucas sculpting.
• 51:55
  It's Richard's choices. It's it's my my design specs.
• 51:59
  Yeah, you. See.
• 52:00
  That's how. I'm in real trouble now, yeah.
• 52:04
  But you know this Ranger built here with the the Jaguar head on
• 52:07
  it and stick any of the new dog heads painted up on it.
• 52:12
  Yeah, you've got an instant new character in that build.
• 52:18
  Yeah, it's a very flexible build.
• 52:20
  But. But I'm thinking you know the
• 52:22
  dog. Your heads fits that kind of
• 52:25
  character Yeah it's it's the Chi Pasha build, isn't it really
• 52:29
  that just really works as anything.
• 52:31
  I bet you'll find the warlock and the there's less female
• 52:36
  heads the but I bet you'll find those ways that didn't.
• 52:39
  But it's slash druid build. It's the same for the females.
• 52:42
  I bet you could stick any head on that and it'll look really
• 52:44
  cool. Yeah, absolutely.
• 52:48
  And then and then the two professions we don't have
• 52:51
  anything, anyone, any figures in the RPG yet are lower master and
• 52:55
  Sorcerer slash Monk. So the lower master I think
• 53:04
  we're going to get if we get to an unlock.
• 53:06
  Yes, that's the vampire law master.
• 53:11
  And then he tried to pick out the figures from the line that
• 53:14
  we have already. And what?
• 53:18
  It's really cool idea. Well nicely done, Kirby, Very
• 53:20
  nicely done. I mean, Blue Haggons in there,
• 53:23
  Kirby, so shame on you. Yeah.
• 53:26
  How is he a fighter? He's dead.
• 53:29
  It's not a very. Last fight it could be I don't
• 53:33
  pick up on one more thing too any.
• 53:35
  Translucent. You can't even stab you.
• 53:38
  Kirby, you spelled douchebag completely wrong.
• 53:40
  You spelled CBARBARIAN. You know, just if you can
• 53:45
  correct that going forward, that would be great as well.
• 53:48
  Right. I'm going to quickly run through
• 53:50
  them, and then I'm going to ask you.
• 53:51
  You can think in the meeting, I'm going to ask you guys what
• 53:53
  profession you're going to build your character to be.
• 53:57
  You probably already know that Mallory knows Rich is going to
• 53:59
  have to try and build something on the fly here.
• 54:02
  Yeah. And Cleric is Faustia.
• 54:05
  We have so far. Paladin.
• 54:07
  We got a rack of gore, Gwendoline, Heavens Brand and
• 54:11
  Sir, Big Greg. Sir.
• 54:12
  Up. Jack, don't.
• 54:14
  Interrupt again, John, but just you using the word Faustia.
• 54:17
  I gripped my hand tightly. It's like I'm starred by that
• 54:21
  figure. It's just like.
• 54:24
  Where's Ravenna? She's gripping a big shaft.
• 54:34
  Ranger, we got the coolest Ranger in the band, then we got
• 54:38
  the elf Ranger and we got the shadow elf Ranger.
• 54:41
  Wizard. Samir Druid.
• 54:44
  Can't wait to get them. I know people have them already,
• 54:47
  but for Nasus Fighter Blue Hagnon apparently at both our
• 54:58
  Shadowhorn and Thord Orange, or truly there's more fighters than
• 55:03
  that. Oh, I think most of mythos.
• 55:06
  Is functus yeah paladins? Yeah.
• 55:14
  Barbarian. We have Atlas.
• 55:18
  Then we have Barbarian, male and female.
• 55:20
  Cador the deluxe Barbarian. Juno the legendary barbarian.
• 55:26
  Still love Legendary Warrior probably come in here too.
• 55:29
  Although yeah, she a fighter. Maybe.
• 55:32
  Loremaster we have Shway. He's definitely your Loremaster.
• 55:38
  Shway the Monk Gasper. Una Monk.
• 55:43
  Yeah, Sorcerer. Again, they could be more,
• 55:47
  couldn't they? There.
• 55:48
  Yeah, there's some. Karazak and Azar and Zazar.
• 55:52
  Hera Serpent's fire. Saw someone in the comments
• 55:55
  maybe suggest she could be in the Sorcerer Sorceress.
• 55:59
  A pile here maybe? Was Aria a sorceress as well?
• 56:05
  I think you should probably fit that category in this, in this,
• 56:09
  you know, mythos in this mythology.
• 56:12
  Let's put it like that. Yeah, so now what are you going
• 56:18
  for when you it'll create your character for the game.
• 56:22
  It'll be between I need to, this is where I need to read the
• 56:26
  rules and what they are again, but it'll be between barbarian,
• 56:30
  fighter, rogue and Ranger. They're my favourites.
• 56:33
  So yeah, I like, I mean, the rogue, I like the sort of sneaky
• 56:39
  way they do things. I think that's always a fun way
• 56:41
  to play. But you can't beat barbarian
• 56:44
  just charging into battle and be, you know, going a bit.
• 56:46
  Yeah, because with the way you play.
• 56:48
  But yeah, a tent like those built so it'll be one of them.
• 56:51
  I'm not entirely sure yet. And Rich, what are you leaning
• 56:56
  towards? My my birthplace and my history
• 57:01
  suggests I should go Druid, as Anglesey was home to the druids
• 57:05
  in times gone. However, I'm going to have to go
• 57:07
  Fighter. I was going to smack people
• 57:10
  around. There's no like casting this
• 57:14
  spell or whether it's like I picked up a rock I've slammed
• 57:16
  into his face. Well, I wouldn't do it.
• 57:20
  That's what I wonder is if there'll be cross classes, cross
• 57:24
  skilling like you can. I mean, you know, so you say
• 57:28
  take so many levels of one thing and then you stop and you take
• 57:31
  so many and you carry on as something else.
• 57:34
  I wonder if that that'll be in there because that's quite fun.
• 57:36
  That opens up some fun combinations.
• 57:41
  How about yeah? I think wizard is what I'd love
• 57:46
  to be, or a druid. So, you know, I think they're
• 57:50
  not too far apart. I think I'd probably blown up a
• 57:54
  little bit on the rules and see which one is more fun to play
• 57:59
  with maybe. Yeah, druids.
• 58:02
  Druids tend to be a bit more sort of nature magic.
• 58:05
  And sometimes they can. We can get a.
• 58:08
  Flock to. I can flock and.
• 58:11
  Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:13
  Druid. Druid it is.
• 58:15
  I noticed somebody was selling a snake man firefighters for £30
• 58:19
  on Auk Bear the other day. John I.
• 58:21
  Have loads, I have loads. It's a great price, but I have
• 58:23
  loads of them. Never enough, but I have loads.
• 58:32
  Yeah, so and the faction thing was interesting.
• 58:36
  I think the gist of it was that you could basically once you get
• 58:43
  enough experience, you can basically get points for being
• 58:47
  part of a faction and then rank up within the faction.
• 58:52
  Yeah, get. Reward to get, you know, better
• 58:54
  dice rolls and better rewards and stuff like that.
• 58:57
  And, and some of the factions will have unique titles for so
• 59:02
  Lithia's brewed, it's got Baron as one of their higher titles.
• 59:07
  So yeah, that's cool. Very cool.
• 59:09
  Just on the subject of characters and linking it back
• 59:12
  to the minis, of course, what people might be wondering about
• 59:17
  is how that and somebody might have talked about this, sorry if
• 59:20
  they have, but what people might be like, oh, how do I create my
• 59:23
  own mini? How can I create a mini of my
• 59:26
  character? Well, there are there are
• 59:28
  websites out there where you can do that sort of thing.
• 59:30
  The two I've had to play around with before, our Hero Forge
• 59:34
  which is very good, and Anvil miniatures which is a is a fun
• 59:38
  one as well. But I've Hero 4, just the, you
• 59:41
  know, the one I know. Best.
• 59:44
  So that's where you can actually like get a sculpt of your mini
• 59:49
  done. Yeah.
• 59:51
  And you printed. That's it.
• 59:52
  You can they give you all the tools to design your own mini.
• 59:56
  You know how he's stood accessories look character, you
• 1:00:00
  know, type of character. And then you can either get the
• 1:00:03
  STL to print out yourself. Or you can send it or, you know,
• 1:00:07
  order it and they, I don't know about Anvil because I say, as I
• 1:00:10
  say, I've not used that. I've not used them fully either.
• 1:00:13
  But with Hero Forge you can actually order it painted as
• 1:00:16
  well. They print it in coloured to,
• 1:00:20
  you know, resin and that sort of thing to yeah, it's so there's
• 1:00:25
  options for people if they fancy trying to making their own
• 1:00:28
  little character in a mini form. Yeah, and I think dndbeyond.com
• 1:00:32
  is a good place to create your character where you can get, I
• 1:00:37
  think you can get all the attributes and and you know,
• 1:00:40
  it'll guide you through it there.
• 1:00:41
  So yeah, that's a good place to to maybe start.
• 1:00:46
  Yeah, before we get the the more stuff from the Horseman, maybe
• 1:00:50
  that's what the game. Well, that's it, as you say.
• 1:00:53
  I mean, it's 5th edition, so the rules for character creation
• 1:00:56
  exist. You obviously just there's going
• 1:01:00
  to be slight tweaks to that for for ethic Legion version of it.
• 1:01:06
  So yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:07
  But you know, if you get kind of heading into the game or you
• 1:01:11
  know, exactly have people, I think that's what people love
• 1:01:16
  doing is kind of maybe planning up custom of their character
• 1:01:21
  maybe or something like that, right.
• 1:01:26
  We also got this cool thing, which it just didn't arrive for
• 1:01:29
  last week's recording, the map of Mythos that's been unlocked
• 1:01:33
  and put into the core game. There you see on the screen the
• 1:01:37
  whole thing. It's hard to read, so I'm going
• 1:01:40
  to go into more zoomed in versions now.
• 1:01:43
  But yeah, more detail of basically the original Mythos
• 1:01:46
  map we got, and in a slightly different style, which is cool.
• 1:01:51
  And that's going to be a paper map, I think that comes in the
• 1:01:54
  core rule book. So not cloth or anything like
• 1:01:57
  that, but you know, maybe down the road if they do it as a
• 1:02:00
  separate thing. Yeah, they described it as
• 1:02:02
  they'd be a slip case in the book and.
• 1:02:05
  Yeah, this and you can stop it is.
• 1:02:07
  Yeah, yeah. Right.
• 1:02:10
  So the N 1st Bjorngar and Leander on the like the West
• 1:02:16
  side, so the left side and the white spine and Zylarnia in the
• 1:02:22
  east spine and the east side. The white spine is obviously the
• 1:02:26
  frozen bit up the top here. You got the bloodless throne.
• 1:02:30
  You've heard of that, Rich? I'm indeed.
• 1:02:32
  All your buddies of the Sanguine house, that's that's a new one,
• 1:02:36
  I think. I think it is.
• 1:02:38
  And the pole star and the pole. Star Yeah, also it's called the
• 1:02:42
  white spine and yeah, Eulernia, which is a bit.
• 1:02:47
  Zylonia. Oh, is that Zylonia?
• 1:02:50
  Yeah, which is this all this bit down here at Castle?
• 1:02:54
  I can see why you made the mistake though, Rich.
• 1:02:57
  Yeah. Well, now I feel like a fool.
• 1:02:58
  But yeah, you got, yeah, you got Whisper Veil there up the north,
• 1:03:04
  which is the kind of, it seems to be the the cut off between
• 1:03:08
  The Vamps and Zelonas flock. So that's yeah.
• 1:03:12
  Maybe where the whisperings live.
• 1:03:14
  Whistlings are on the on the frontline, aren't they?
• 1:03:16
  Yeah. They're those great.
• 1:03:18
  They're the green skinned as right?
• 1:03:20
  Yeah, that's the one. Leaving the little trenches,
• 1:03:23
  getting ready for the vampires come in.
• 1:03:25
  Yeah, yeah, You got Emberdale there, then Castle Silverhorn is
• 1:03:30
  more in the South of Zylarnia, and going across to the other
• 1:03:35
  side, you got the Eye of the Lion, so that must be where
• 1:03:42
  Attila is hanging out. Yeah, you got the Village of
• 1:03:47
  Lakes, middle of their traders Bay as well as there.
• 1:03:52
  I think we've heard of that before and maybe in a bio or
• 1:03:55
  something. Was that Fort Oz Oz blood?
• 1:04:01
  Yeah, was was. Blood or is blood or is blood.
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  Sorry I. Remember if that was on the
• 1:04:06
  original map or not. I want to say it was but I can't
• 1:04:08
  remember. Should bring that up to
• 1:04:12
  comparison really. And what I'm noticing here, and
• 1:04:19
  even more so in the next pictures, Rich, is all these mad
• 1:04:22
  sea creatures that are bobbing around.
• 1:04:24
  Yes, I guess you're not upset to see those.
• 1:04:28
  In no way, shape or form. There's big octopuses and squids
• 1:04:32
  and yeah, there's a giant crab underneath the compass point
• 1:04:37
  sort of thing. This is all good stuff.
• 1:04:40
  Yeah. It definitely looks like there'd
• 1:04:43
  be dragon type creatures in the sea it.
• 1:04:46
  Does isn't it very exciting? Fort Fort ORS blood was on the
• 1:04:52
  original map. It was.
• 1:04:56
  That's it. And then this a Dalburn
• 1:04:59
  territory was there and on the other side you had you have
• 1:05:06
  Whisper Vale, Emberdale, Castle, Silverhorn.
• 1:05:10
  So yeah, the Bay of Bones there wasn't done the original map, so
• 1:05:18
  now we have. They have stones.
• 1:05:20
  That was that. Stones.
• 1:05:21
  Stones, sorry. I got on my phone and zooming in
• 1:05:25
  as much as I possibly can on it. Right, let's move down to the
• 1:05:30
  middle section. So we've got Aerotorne here on
• 1:05:32
  the left. That's error there and all these
• 1:05:34
  nasty bad guys. Yeah, I was expecting to it to
• 1:05:39
  look more blasted land. Yeah.
• 1:05:42
  Is it more volcanic? Maybe?
• 1:05:44
  Yeah. Yeah, a Fidian there in the
• 1:05:47
  middle, Castle of four sides, right in the middle of the whole
• 1:05:53
  map at the top of this bit here. Slightly in the end, although I
• 1:05:58
  thought I actually bet it's be like right in the middle middle.
• 1:06:01
  Yeah, I think it. Oh, it's just the fold, isn't
• 1:06:05
  it? Yeah, it's just the fold in the
• 1:06:07
  map. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:08
  Jesus Christ. I need sleep.
• 1:06:13
  Yeah, so a lot of the stuff in narrator was already mentioned.
• 1:06:17
  And there is more. Yeah, there's definitely more.
• 1:06:20
  The original map here, there is more.
• 1:06:25
  You see it volcanic look to it. So you got all the same stuff
• 1:06:32
  there and the bills Adel have our I don't know what that is.
• 1:06:36
  Oh, that's that was also there. That was originally Jeremy
• 1:06:39
  talking. About one of his episodes.
• 1:06:41
  Oh, did he? OK, Sorry, I missed that one.
• 1:06:43
  Jeremy, is that Serpent Station? Yeah, Serpent Station.
• 1:06:49
  That's a new one. I wonder if that's where the
• 1:06:52
  thingies are these days, what they called the Listen people
• 1:06:58
  minions. Yeah.
• 1:07:02
  You got the masked Dale there, that's near the tower of Basilia
• 1:07:05
  that was in the old map. The flowing Spire new one too.
• 1:07:10
  That's new, yeah. Over to Etheros.
• 1:07:13
  Then we had the the Etherons temple in the Crown City that
• 1:07:16
  was there. North Bay is a new thing on the
• 1:07:18
  map we haven't seen before. And then if we moved down?
• 1:07:24
  So have you seen Oh no Karen now?
• 1:07:27
  I was going to say, do you think North Bay could be where Thingy
• 1:07:30
  came in to land the Golden? Not the golden, the OH.
• 1:07:35
  The Golden Gill. The Golden Gill, Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  You know, that was a eagle sport, wasn't it?
• 1:07:39
  I. Think that was that, yes.
• 1:07:42
  Which when we get to it is weird because it's that's like in
• 1:07:46
  Little Inlet. So, you know, I'm not sure how
• 1:07:48
  they managed to land. They're having missed.
• 1:07:51
  Yeah, the dead. Lands and that sort of thing.
• 1:07:52
  I. Suppose there was a.
• 1:07:55
  Harbour. There was a route in, shall we
• 1:07:58
  say? Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah. Bottom right here.
• 1:08:01
  Yeah. The Deadlands.
• 1:08:02
  So that's where all the skeleton people live.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah. Skull Harbour and the Brittle
• 1:08:08
  Tract. That's a great name, the Britain
• 1:08:12
  Truck Truck. House of the Blessed Bone is not
• 1:08:16
  marked, but it's that one in the middle.
• 1:08:18
  It is. I mean, they were talking about
• 1:08:20
  that being secret, weren't they? So maybe this map is like nobody
• 1:08:24
  knew is there, so it's not on the map.
• 1:08:26
  Yeah. Or at least they didn't know
• 1:08:27
  what it was. They just knew there was
• 1:08:29
  something there. Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Yeah, What's that? I love the kind of weather
• 1:08:34
  that's. Good at the bottom is that.
• 1:08:36
  Port, Port town. Yeah, I think the fish.
• 1:08:42
  Oh, sorry, clicking on the fishy looking people here are even
• 1:08:47
  more up your street. I think you're rich.
• 1:08:51
  They're kind of more evil. Yes, yeah.
• 1:08:55
  You can't have too many fish people, John.
• 1:08:57
  I mean, there's no shark person if I'm going to get really
• 1:08:59
  picky, but that's just me. And then down here you got the
• 1:09:06
  Nether gate, that's for Poxus and his crew are, and you got
• 1:09:11
  the shifting dunes. That's a new thing.
• 1:09:13
  And the scourge. I feel like we've heard of the
• 1:09:18
  Scourge before. We have a figure in Cosmic
• 1:09:21
  called Scourge. Don't we?
• 1:09:23
  Maybe that's what I'm thinking. Maybe that's yeah.
• 1:09:28
  So very cool to get more detail there and we see what comes up
• 1:09:34
  in the BIOS. We were thinking maybe it might
• 1:09:38
  have been a bigger map of mythos.
• 1:09:39
  We're definitely due that returned we.
• 1:09:41
  We are wider map. The wider map, yeah.
• 1:09:46
  But it feels like this first book is very much focusing on
• 1:09:49
  the old new mythos as it's now known, doesn't it?
• 1:09:53
  I think. I think there'll be expansions
• 1:09:55
  down the road. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:09:56
  Yeah, absolutely. Totally.
• 1:09:59
  I'm just impatient. I want to know now.
• 1:10:01
  I want to know now. Absolutely right.
• 1:10:07
  I did some customs. Very cool.
• 1:10:09
  I did this drunk dwarf for Paddy's day.
• 1:10:13
  No, it was just coincidental. It was bad, he said.
• 1:10:16
  And I might do more detail on the silver armour here because
• 1:10:22
  put a Washington in it, but it didn't come exactly as I wanted.
• 1:10:26
  But I put it together anyway. Some.
• 1:10:29
  Really good job, but yeah. But I did a lot of work on the
• 1:10:32
  the cloth bits and the leather was fun.
• 1:10:36
  And this cool torso here, I got it, I think in a kind of bug,
• 1:10:40
  say, like I got off somebody once.
• 1:10:42
  So I don't know where it comes from, but I'm sure it's one of
• 1:10:46
  those. It looks like the places like
• 1:10:56
  Dustin Little Dawn Studios sell it.
• 1:10:58
  It's actually big a fusion, one of his sets I think.
• 1:11:02
  What I will say is that the arms go into it perfectly.
• 1:11:07
  It's like fitting torsos that I've had just had to warm up a
• 1:11:12
  little bit the the plugs on the arms and then they clicked in
• 1:11:17
  and actually stay in like really solidly, really well.
• 1:11:22
  So I was very happy with that. And I think before I painted it,
• 1:11:28
  I tested that because if that doesn't work, I generally don't
• 1:11:32
  have any inspiration for painting it then.
• 1:11:36
  Yeah, so happy enough with that. And then the blue night, which
• 1:11:42
  people seem to really like, Yeah, might do more nights just
• 1:11:46
  because people like them. Very popular.
• 1:11:52
  What other colours has has there not been?
• 1:11:55
  Yes, I did this in blue because it's my favourite blue paints
• 1:11:58
  and because there hasn't been a blue coloured night so and I had
• 1:12:03
  this cool blue Cape that I got off Kim who's Big Dub's sister.
• 1:12:11
  I traded she she offered to trade some soft goods she'd done
• 1:12:16
  for two heads that I had painted.
• 1:12:19
  So I said sure. So I have this and another one
• 1:12:22
  and some other small bits. So I thought that worked out
• 1:12:27
  well. And I had this head that I had
• 1:12:28
  just done as well, kind of old king head from prop masters.
• 1:12:32
  So happy days. So there's already some stuff
• 1:12:37
  done for legions Khan. So there's going to be new stuff
• 1:12:39
  on the table. Yay, we can stop now.
• 1:12:47
  No, I don't want to get into that mad rush at the end cycle.
• 1:12:50
  That's that's what I'm afraid of.
• 1:12:52
  Yeah, you know, right. In stock sale in April, guys.
• 1:12:59
  Any. Anybody.
• 1:13:02
  I'm trying to forget that just because it's like I'm going to
• 1:13:05
  have no money at all before that.
• 1:13:08
  So it's just like. I might have made a list already
• 1:13:12
  of what it's like trying, but. Yeah, tell us what you're going
• 1:13:16
  for. I've decided against the all in
• 1:13:20
  and just pick up a few of individuals of the of the
• 1:13:27
  armoury figures rather than the all in because I was like, well,
• 1:13:31
  I could spend that on the all in and get a load of parts I don't
• 1:13:33
  want. Or I could just buy and try and
• 1:13:35
  try and get a few of just the ones I do want, you know, and
• 1:13:39
  then I'll probably get another Valgard.
• 1:13:45
  And I think that's. Yeah, you're making me think
• 1:13:47
  now. So I was just going to
• 1:13:49
  brainlessly go for the all in if the cash and just it's done.
• 1:13:54
  But now I'm thinking maybe I should look at it again and see
• 1:13:58
  what I have and what I actually really want.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah, my thoughts was like another Valgard 3 or 4
• 1:14:06
  revenants. Well, I think three are in your
• 1:14:11
  dreams, buddy. This is true depending how many
• 1:14:13
  they've made it yet. Yeah, I think that's going to go
• 1:14:17
  like hot cakes, so. It depends if you put limits on,
• 1:14:22
  if you put limits on for the 1st 24 hours, whatever, that might
• 1:14:25
  help. I think just put limit on him
• 1:14:28
  maybe? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:30
  Everything else can be whatever. Say, I'm not too fussed about
• 1:14:34
  getting more evidence. I think they're cool figures.
• 1:14:36
  But you know, yeah, it's very much the leather belts and the
• 1:14:41
  leather boots and the cloth trousers I want of things.
• 1:14:45
  Yeah. And I just, I like Valgard, so
• 1:14:46
  I'd quite like another one of him to play with a bit and then
• 1:14:50
  Scaphoid I'm thinking might get another one of him to play with.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah, I kind of see I need more torsos that are not like bare
• 1:15:02
  torsos or just the standard armour.
• 1:15:05
  I'd love more of those. Well, I mean I will get some
• 1:15:08
  extras but more of that dwarf torso for example the the new
• 1:15:12
  one or the one or it comes with is it broad or brother of
• 1:15:17
  younger? Oh yeah.
• 1:15:19
  Oh, well, no, it's slightly different, isn't it?
• 1:15:21
  But. Is it?
• 1:15:22
  But it's similar style. Similar.
• 1:15:23
  Yeah, Yeah. Similar kind of, yeah.
• 1:15:26
  Yeah, they're great and just different yeah you kind of
• 1:15:29
  realise torsos is one of the things they haven't done as many
• 1:15:34
  options of, although there is the the plug in ones, but
• 1:15:39
  they've kind of disappeared now. Yeah, the Lord Bashati one and
• 1:15:46
  the leather armour one, but they came with the Knights armoury so
• 1:15:50
  I suppose that was more plentiful.
• 1:15:53
  But yeah. Yeah, really cool.
• 1:15:57
  Third party chest plates to go into those as well.
• 1:16:00
  Oh yeah, that's yeah, I have a few chest plates as well, but I
• 1:16:04
  don't have and I even have a few of the actual factory chest
• 1:16:10
  plates. What I'm missing is the back
• 1:16:12
  piece, the actual toss? You crack them off and.
• 1:16:16
  Yeah, yeah, I knew that would come home to roost, you know,
• 1:16:21
  But yeah. What do you do with the extras
• 1:16:23
  then, specifically? Soft goods.
• 1:16:24
  Soft goods thing over the top of it.
• 1:16:27
  So underneath is this gaping hole in the middle of this also,
• 1:16:30
  but you can't see it because you've got a tunic or something
• 1:16:33
  like that over the top of it. It's just too much sticks.
• 1:16:40
  Yeah. Oh, at first world problems.
• 1:16:42
  Let's say a. Bit blue tack just a body.
• 1:16:44
  Make a body out of clay of some sort and.
• 1:16:48
  Yeah, just green stuff, big ball.
• 1:16:50
  Yeah, probably work. It probably could.
• 1:16:54
  Work. Yeah.
• 1:16:55
  I suppose you could mould it, couldn't you?
• 1:16:57
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:16:59
  Long term, would it be? I think it'd be fine if you
• 1:17:04
  weren't making them to sell. Yeah.
• 1:17:06
  Yeah, if you're just making them for yourself, Right?
• 1:17:11
  And her Liverpool doing rich. They I've just checked they are
• 1:17:15
  4 nil up so far. OK, so.
• 1:17:18
  I heard someone on the radio today say that Liverpool and
• 1:17:23
  Galatasaray were just playing to see who's going to get beaten by
• 1:17:25
  PSG in the next round. I mean, they might not be wrong,
• 1:17:30
  it has to be said. But.
• 1:17:33
  Now I just saw that I guess the result Oh sorry, can you?
• 1:17:36
  I guess there's more prize money the further you go in this big.
• 1:17:39
  It's the changes league we're talking about, yeah.
• 1:17:41
  Yeah, yeah, Newcastle. I was checking the Newcastle
• 1:17:45
  score earlier and it was 2 all as a Newcastle have got 2 all.
• 1:17:48
  So they didn't really well and then they lost 7 two in the end.
• 1:17:50
  So that went horribly wrong after that point.
• 1:17:53
  Gutted for them, clearly. Yeah, you sounded.
• 1:18:02
  Yeah, so it looks like. Liverpool are going to be the
• 1:18:04
  only English side through, isn't it?
• 1:18:07
  Yeah, like she's. Crazy.
• 1:18:09
  No Arsenal as well. Oh yeah.
• 1:18:12
  I keep trying. I'm trying to get Arsenal.
• 1:18:14
  Sorry, Thomas. Yeah, sorry, your managers,
• 1:18:16
  yeah. Cock wamble so.
• 1:18:22
  Yeah. Is that a swear word?
• 1:18:23
  No. I.
• 1:18:24
  Don't think so. No, it's a description of.
• 1:18:26
  You know, yeah. It's in the.
• 1:18:28
  Descriptive animal, Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:18:31
  Womble is those little the Wombles of Wimbledon Common
• 1:18:36
  indeed, with them wombling. Free.
• 1:18:37
  Yeah, right, we're on to the Wombles I.
• 1:18:42
  Think I was going to say this is like nothing but the
• 1:18:44
  international listeners. Like what the hell?
• 1:18:48
  Yeah, so the the Kickstarter hopefully will bring us more joy
• 1:18:54
  this week or a few more surprise on locks or, I don't know,
• 1:18:58
  something to bring it back into life.
• 1:19:02
  In the meantime, Rich would be making plans for riches randoms,
• 1:19:06
  the Seven Mile, and Rich would be figuring out what we want to
• 1:19:09
  do for bonus Patreon episodes. So if you're a Patreon, you have
• 1:19:14
  an idea. Let us know what you'd like to
• 1:19:16
  hear. Or if you just want to hear us
• 1:19:18
  do more shine like this, then you know, go for it.
• 1:19:22
  Don't worry man, you can make noise now.
• 1:19:23
  I don't care if the gerbil was alive, he could start making
• 1:19:28
  noise now too. I definitely think Middle-aged
• 1:19:32
  Man Podcast might be the way to go as one of our additional
• 1:19:35
  podcasts. Just moaning about traffic or
• 1:19:38
  what? Yeah.
• 1:19:39
  You know what I mean? You know what grinds my gears?
• 1:19:42
  There we go. Like we could we could do a spin
• 1:19:45
  off like room one O 1 Yeah. So oh, seriously.
• 1:19:49
  I would. OK, let's brainstorm this.
• 1:19:52
  Ask about me moaning about stuff for days sounds good in mind,
• 1:19:56
  just an episode. Old man shouts a cloud.
• 1:19:58
  There we go. Yeah, the spin off you're
• 1:20:01
  releasing. It's a cloud.
• 1:20:05
  That's a DND. Yeah, smelly old man in the town
• 1:20:11
  that shouts the clouds. Stay safe out there everybody.
• 1:20:15
  Remember, you'll still be safe even if you don't pack the
• 1:20:17
  Kickstarter.