Latest / The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories / Serial Killer Documentary - Stephen Unwin & William McFall
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- 0:09Speaker 1: In the early morning hours of the 15th of August, 2017,
- 0:14Speaker 1: a fire and rescue service in the northeast of England
- 0:17Speaker 1: responded to a 999 call reporting a car on fire.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Inside the car, the body of 28-year-old mother of two,
- 0:25Speaker 1: Nguyen Anhoc Nguyen, from Vietnam.
- 0:31Speaker 2: The flames were so intense that her body had been
- 0:33Speaker 2: fused into the backseat of the car.
- 0:37Speaker 3: This was an act that was premeditated and planned.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Her killers were 50-year-old William McFall and 39-year-old Stephen Unwin,
- 0:47Speaker 1: two convicted murderers.
- 0:51Speaker 4: It was the evil of all evils. They're just evil people.
- 0:57Speaker 1: The killers had met in prison where they struck up
- 1:01Speaker 1: a deadly friendship.
- 1:07Speaker 5: When Unwin and McFall joined forces, they really amplified their
- 1:11Speaker 5: level of dangerousness and violence, because it's not just about
- 1:15Speaker 5: committing crime and hurting people now. It's about doing that
- 1:19Speaker 5: and performing it in front of another individual.
- 1:22Speaker 1: In her final hour, their victims suffered unimaginable pain and
- 1:27Speaker 1: cruelty at the hands of Stephen Unwin and William McFall,
- 1:32Speaker 1: two of the world's most evil killers. In April 2018,
- 2:00Speaker 1: Stephen Unwin and William McFall were on trial in the
- 2:04Speaker 1: Crown Court at Newcastle, England, for the brutal murder of
- 2:08Speaker 1: Gwynne Nguyen. Unwin was also charged with raping the 28-year-old
- 2:13Speaker 1: from Vietnam. Covering the day-to-day court proceedings was North East
- 2:19Speaker 1: reporter for The Sun newspaper, Robin Perry.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Quinn was subjected to a horrific assault. She was attacked, beaten,
- 2:29Speaker 2: strangled with a ligature, and then quite horrifically, Unwinner McFall
- 2:33Speaker 2: injected her with a syringe full of whiskey. As she
- 2:36Speaker 2: was incapacitated, far too badly injured to escape, Unwinner then
- 2:40Speaker 2: subjected to a series of sexual assaults and raped her.
- 2:45Speaker 3: This poor woman has lost her innocence and her life
- 2:49Speaker 3: eventually to these two mindless thugs. And this wasn't just
- 2:55Speaker 3: an act of opportunism.
- 2:58Speaker 1: On the 25th of April 2018, Mr Justice Morris sentenced
- 3:03Speaker 1: 40-year-old Stephen Unwin and 51-year-old William McFall to life in prison.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Both men were given not just life terms, but full
- 3:13Speaker 2: life terms. There are two of only approximately 60 people
- 3:16Speaker 2: in the country who have full life terms, which means.
- 3:19Speaker 3: They will never be released. They will die behind bars.
- 3:23Speaker 6: Lovely cheese.
- 3:25Speaker 7: Real cheese.
- 3:26Speaker 5: They are considered among the most dangerous criminals in the country.
- 3:31Speaker 5: They are highly likely to kill someone else, to harm
- 3:34Speaker 5: someone else, if they were ever released.
- 3:36Speaker 1: This was not the first time Stephen Unwin and William
- 3:40Speaker 1: McFall had killed. Both men were already convicted murderers before
- 3:45Speaker 1: they attacked Gwyn.
- 3:47Speaker 5: I think we do need to take a step back
- 3:49Speaker 5: and say, why on earth were these two men released
- 3:52Speaker 5: in the first place? They took people's lives away, and
- 3:55Speaker 5: the circumstances in which those first murders happened were particularly heinous.
- 4:00Speaker 1: William McFall's story begins in Northern Ireland. He was born
- 4:05Speaker 1: in 1967 and grew up in the small town of
- 4:08Speaker 1: Green Island near Carrickfergus in County Antrim.
- 4:12Speaker 5: These were quite turbulent times in Northern Ireland, so... Things
- 4:17Speaker 5: weren't particularly stable.
- 4:18Speaker 1: There was always a.
- 4:19Speaker 5: Kind of fear in the air about what might happen next.
- 4:22Speaker 5: And he's a child who didn't really seem to have
- 4:25Speaker 5: very much in the way of sort of guidance and
- 4:27Speaker 5: direction and discipline. So right from the word go, he
- 4:31Speaker 5: was kind of left to his own devices, really.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith knew McFall as a child.
- 4:38Speaker 6: The early memories of McFall was him just running about
- 4:41Speaker 6: in the estate with a pair of Wellington boots on
- 4:43Speaker 6: and a pair of shorts. and just like a feral child.
- 4:47Speaker 6: He didn't seem to have any friends at all, but
- 4:50Speaker 6: everyone knew him. People did really avoid him because he
- 4:54Speaker 6: was just... There was something not right.
- 4:58Speaker 1: McFall grew up with two sisters and a brother.
- 5:02Speaker 6: McFall and his other siblings seemed to have no discipline
- 5:05Speaker 6: in the house at all. You know, they just ran wild.
- 5:08Speaker 8: All of them.
- 5:12Speaker 6: MacFarlane always had a weapon in his hand, whether it
- 5:14Speaker 6: be a stick or a hammer or a knife. The
- 5:18Speaker 6: most bizarre one was a chainsaw.
- 5:21Speaker 5: This really does tell us that he wants to be
- 5:23Speaker 5: seen as threatening. He attaches a value to violence. He
- 5:27Speaker 5: wants other people to fear him.
- 5:31Speaker 6: He wasn't really a violent man with anybody that could
- 5:37Speaker 6: challenge him. but if it was someone weaker, then, yes,
- 5:40Speaker 6: he would be violent, he would be very, very nasty,
- 5:43Speaker 6: very vindictive, you know.
- 5:45Speaker 1: There were early signs that McFall was a troubled boy
- 5:49Speaker 1: with tendencies to cruelty.
- 5:51Speaker 6: McFall had an altercation with one of the teachers in
- 5:54Speaker 6: Silverstream Primary School, and later on that evening, he broke
- 5:58Speaker 6: into the school, went to the teacher's praise topical fish
- 6:01Speaker 6: tank and killed all the fish and put them under
- 6:06Speaker 6: desks and between books. and nailed him to the blackboard
- 6:09Speaker 6: as well. Just really bizarre behavior.
- 6:13Speaker 3: There's also a story that he killed 40 mice by
- 6:16Speaker 3: beheading them. He was a brutal little boy, a boy
- 6:21Speaker 3: who set himself apart from the crowd by his ferocity.
- 6:28Speaker 5: We do see this quite often in cases of people
- 6:31Speaker 5: who go on to commit horrendous murders. We look back
- 6:35Speaker 5: at their childhoods and they do seem to have animal
- 6:38Speaker 5: cruelty within them. We know that he is using animals
- 6:42Speaker 5: to exercise power, to exercise control. When you are a
- 6:47Speaker 5: small child, you don't have really much physical control over
- 6:51Speaker 5: other people.
- 6:53Speaker 6: His actual nickname was Mad John when he was a kid.
- 6:55Speaker 6: It just stuck with him.
- 6:59Speaker 1: As a young adult, William Mad John McFall had several
- 7:04Speaker 1: convictions for violence and firearms offences.
- 7:08Speaker 3: McFall did what he wanted. But then, as he grew
- 7:12Speaker 3: towards the second half of his 20s, again in jail,
- 7:16Speaker 3: he brags to a fellow cellmate that he's going to
- 7:19Speaker 3: plot to rob an elderly lady who lives basically 100
- 7:23Speaker 3: yards from his house, whom he's convinced has loads of
- 7:27Speaker 3: cash under a bed.
- 7:30Speaker 1: William McFall lived on Station Road, not far from 86-year-old
- 7:35Speaker 1: Martha Gilmore. Martha was a frail woman who had bad
- 7:40Speaker 1: arthritis and struggled with movement. She relied on carers for help,
- 7:46Speaker 1: and one of the carers to visit her regularly was
- 7:49Speaker 1: community nurse Anne Scott.
- 7:53Speaker 7: She was just a lady that I just hit it
- 7:55Speaker 7: off with her from the word go and she was
- 7:58Speaker 7: a lady that I was very, very fond of. She
- 8:02Speaker 7: did go out using her two sticks but she would
- 8:05Speaker 7: have been very slow and she was very fragile but
- 8:09Speaker 7: fiercely independent and always made me very welcome.
- 8:14Speaker 1: In the early hours of Sunday 5th May 1996, McFall,
- 8:20Speaker 1: armed with a hammer, went to Martha Gilmore's semi-detached bungalow
- 8:24Speaker 1: on Station Road with the intention of burgling her. He
- 8:28Speaker 1: hoped to find loads of cash under her bed. He
- 8:33Speaker 1: rang the doorbell. Nobody answered.
- 8:37Speaker 7: She'd obviously been in bed because she was slow because
- 8:41Speaker 7: of her reduced mobility.
- 8:48Speaker 3: But, of course, McFall doesn't factor any of this into
- 8:51Speaker 3: his thinking. Nobody comes to the door because she can't
- 8:55Speaker 3: get up very quickly. She's simply an old lady who
- 8:59Speaker 3: finds movement extremely difficult. He rings the doorbell again. No response.
- 9:04Speaker 3: So McFall breaks in. By this point, Martha Gellhorn has
- 9:09Speaker 3: got up and gone into the hallway. Now, McFall is
- 9:13Speaker 3: in the hallway. realizes that the house isn't empty. He's
- 9:18Speaker 3: convinced she can identify him. After all, they live about
- 9:21Speaker 3: 100 yards apart, so it's pretty likely she could. So
- 9:24Speaker 3: without hesitation, he kills her. He hits her over the
- 9:27Speaker 3: head with a hammer.
- 9:28Speaker 1: McFall battered the frail old woman three times on the
- 9:32Speaker 1: back of the head.
- 9:33Speaker 3: This is a violent young man who acts on instinct
- 9:37Speaker 3: and also has a vengeful temper. So rather than risk
- 9:41Speaker 3: leaving Martha alive... He kills her. But not only that,
- 9:46Speaker 3: he then drags her along the hallway so that he
- 9:49Speaker 3: can get back out of the door again and on
- 9:51Speaker 3: the way breaks her sternum.
- 9:53Speaker 1: McFall fled the scene, leaving Martha dead in the hallway
- 9:58Speaker 1: in a pool of her own blood.
- 10:01Speaker 7: The news came on and it said an elderly lady
- 10:06Speaker 7: had been murdered she lived in the station road in
- 10:09Speaker 7: Green Island and I know this sounds ridiculous but I
- 10:14Speaker 7: just knew in my heart that it was Martha.
- 10:20Speaker 1: McFall was arrested within hours of the murder after police
- 10:24Speaker 1: discovered fingerprints on Martha's front door which matched those held
- 10:28Speaker 1: on file for William McFall.
- 10:32Speaker 6: When his name came up, I wasn't surprised that McFall
- 10:34Speaker 6: had killed her. It was obvious. The most striking thing
- 10:37Speaker 6: was the violence behind it. It's out of order, killing
- 10:40Speaker 6: an old woman.
- 10:42Speaker 5: We often find this in cases of killers like this individual.
- 10:47Speaker 5: They begin by targeting very vulnerable people because they are
- 10:51Speaker 5: easier to control. It's almost like a testing out, essentially,
- 10:56Speaker 5: of a particular offence, of a particular crime, to see
- 10:59Speaker 5: if they can do it.
- 11:03Speaker 7: This lady who was kind, who was genteel, who did
- 11:09Speaker 7: nobody any harm, who should have been safe in the
- 11:13Speaker 7: sanctuary of her own home. But no, it was invaded
- 11:17Speaker 7: and she was horribly and brutally attacked. He didn't need
- 11:21Speaker 7: to use a hammer on a wee frail lady like Martha.
- 11:25Speaker 7: He could have pushed her out of his way. No
- 11:28Speaker 7: one deserves to be attacked like that. But Martha was
- 11:32Speaker 7: particularly defenseless, not only her age, but her frailty as well,
- 11:37Speaker 7: against a young man wielding a hammer.
- 11:41Speaker 4: It's despicable.
- 11:43Speaker 1: On the 11th of April, 1997, William McFall was sentenced
- 11:48Speaker 1: to life in prison at Belfast Crown Court for the
- 11:51Speaker 1: murder of Martha Gilmore.
- 11:54Speaker 3: This is a violent man, truly given his justice. It's
- 11:56Speaker 3: a life sentence. for murder.
- 12:00Speaker 1: McFall was sent to HMP Swaleside in Kent, England, where
- 12:05Speaker 1: he was housed with like-minded individuals. During his time behind bars,
- 12:10Speaker 1: he shared a cell with Stephen Unwin. The two convicted
- 12:14Speaker 1: killers struck up a close friendship.
- 12:18Speaker 5: Friendships within prison are an interesting thing because for some people,
- 12:23Speaker 5: they will not want to continue those friendships when they
- 12:26Speaker 5: get out because they want to tie over a new leaf,
- 12:29Speaker 5: they want to start again. But on the other hand,
- 12:31Speaker 5: prison friendships can often be the most meaningful, the deepest
- 12:35Speaker 5: attachment that somebody has felt to another individual in their
- 12:39Speaker 5: entire lives. And I think potentially that's what we're looking
- 12:42Speaker 5: at in this case.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Stephen Unwin's story begins in 1978. He was born on
- 12:49Speaker 1: the 16th of February in Durham. He grew up with
- 12:53Speaker 1: an older sister in Fence Houses, a working-class village near
- 12:58Speaker 1: Sunderland in the northeast of England. Like McFall, he was
- 13:02Speaker 1: a troubled boy from an early age.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Unwin is a face, if you like, in that local
- 13:09Speaker 3: criminal community. At 13, there was arson. on a heavy
- 13:15Speaker 3: goods vehicle. There's theft. There's another brush with the law
- 13:19Speaker 3: at 17. More burglary, more theft. Out of control would
- 13:24Speaker 3: be the contemporary way of describing him. Bouncing in and
- 13:28Speaker 3: out of juvenile care. In the mid 1990s, when Unwin
- 13:33Speaker 3: was a teenager, he burgled the house of an amputee
- 13:38Speaker 3: of 72.
- 13:39Speaker 8: Unwin broke into his house. He forced a panel on
- 13:42Speaker 8: the front door He went in downstairs. The chap was
- 13:46Speaker 8: asleep upstairs, obviously taking his false leg off. Unwin stole
- 13:50Speaker 8: some benefit books. But most remarkable about this offence was
- 13:54Speaker 8: that all he had to do was just leave the house.
- 13:57Speaker 8: He hadn't been disturbed. What he then did, he set
- 14:00Speaker 8: five separate seats of fire downstairs.
- 14:03Speaker 3: It was a crime of opportunity, but it also indicated
- 14:08Speaker 3: that he was prepared to try and cover his tracks
- 14:11Speaker 3: because a certain amount of arson was involved. And that
- 14:15Speaker 3: became one of Unwin's fingerprints.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Luckily, neighbors were able to rescue the old man in time.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Later that day, Unwin was caught when he tried to
- 14:27Speaker 1: cash in the books.
- 14:29Speaker 5: He is engaging in quite lawless behavior from a very
- 14:33Speaker 5: early age. These incidents happened before he was 18 years old.
- 14:37Speaker 5: So this shows somebody who doesn't have respect for the law,
- 14:41Speaker 5: who likes to create chaos, essentially.
- 14:44Speaker 3: But the most horrifying part of this story of the
- 14:47Speaker 3: young life of Stephen Unwin comes when he apparently befriends
- 14:52Speaker 3: an aged pharmacist called John Greenwell.
- 14:57Speaker 8: He was 73 years of age, a retired pharmacist. He
- 14:59Speaker 8: was well respected in the community. He knew one or
- 15:02Speaker 8: two young lads who used to run messages for him. Really,
- 15:05Speaker 8: really nice man from all accounts.
- 15:07Speaker 1: In the summer of 1998, one of the neighbourhood boys
- 15:11Speaker 1: introduced 20-year-old Stephen Unwin to the retired pharmacist. John had
- 15:18Speaker 1: terminal cancer and was often bedridden. He lived very close
- 15:22Speaker 1: to Unwin, who decided one day he'd steal a few
- 15:25Speaker 1: items from the old man's house. Unwin burgles Greenwell and steals,
- 15:31Speaker 1: among other things, a Zenit camera. A friend remonstrates with him.
- 15:36Speaker 1: and says, you can't do that. You must return the
- 15:39Speaker 1: goods that you've stolen. And so a very unrepentant, and
- 15:42Speaker 1: in fact, I would say probably furious, Unwin leaves what
- 15:47Speaker 1: he's stolen on the doorstep, including the Zenit camera. But
- 15:51Speaker 1: now Unwin's got a grudge. He's going to teach Greenwell
- 15:54Speaker 1: a lesson. On the 25th of December, 1998, two uniformed
- 16:00Speaker 1: police officers on patrol spotted John Greenwell's bungalow on fire.
- 16:06Speaker 8: They notified the fire brigade who attended, and after several hours,
- 16:11Speaker 8: extinguished the place. And once they'd gained entry, they realised
- 16:14Speaker 8: that there was a body in the back room. He
- 16:16Speaker 8: was lying on a bed, face up, and it was
- 16:18Speaker 8: the body of Mr Greenwell.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Colin Dobson was the senior investigating officer on call that
- 16:25Speaker 1: Christmas bank holiday weekend.
- 16:28Speaker 8: I knew that we were dealing with a murder investigation
- 16:30Speaker 8: once we saw the scene. Mr Greenwell's body was desecrated,
- 16:34Speaker 8: badly burned. When a pathologist carried out the post-mortem, it
- 16:37Speaker 8: was quite evident that he'd received several blows to the head.
- 16:42Speaker 8: We think that he attacked Mr Greenwell as he lay
- 16:45Speaker 8: in bed using the Zenith camera. We also realised that
- 16:49Speaker 8: he'd been stabbed to the chest, once to the chest.
- 16:52Speaker 8: So the cause of death was actually a fractured skull
- 16:55Speaker 8: and brain damage as well as the stab wound.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Unwin set fire to several parts of the house, including
- 17:03Speaker 1: John's body. He stole a television set and a VHS recorder.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Shortly after Unwin had set fire to John's home, the
- 17:13Speaker 1: two police officers on patrol had seen him pushing a
- 17:16Speaker 1: wheelie bin down the road and had stopped him.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Where are you going? What you got there? He says, oh,
- 17:22Speaker 3: I'm just returning the VHS recorder for the time being. Well,
- 17:26Speaker 3: they're suspicious, to put it politely, and they watch what
- 17:29Speaker 3: house he goes into.
- 17:31Speaker 1: As the officers walked on, they spotted John Greenwell's bungalow
- 17:35Speaker 1: on fire. It didn't take Colin Dobson and his team
- 17:40Speaker 1: long to connect the dots between the fire and Unwin.
- 17:44Speaker 1: They arrested him the same day.
- 17:48Speaker 8: Once he was arrested and we did a check, we
- 17:51Speaker 8: realised that he had previous convictions and, indeed, He had
- 17:54Speaker 8: two previous convictions of arson. There's no doubt that he
- 17:57Speaker 8: was setting fire to the different scenes to destroy evidence,
- 18:02Speaker 8: evidence of contact, any DNA evidence, anything at all. Unwanted
- 18:06Speaker 8: had been arrested. We had no eyewitnesses. We had no
- 18:09Speaker 8: forensic evidence. There was no CCTV in the area. Although
- 18:14Speaker 8: he was a prime suspect, we had to build up
- 18:16Speaker 8: a case, you know.
- 18:17Speaker 1: But Unwin made one vital mistake. He'd wrapped the VHS
- 18:22Speaker 1: recorder in a bin bag and taped it with sticky tape.
- 18:26Speaker 8: The beauty about this one was that our own scenes
- 18:29Speaker 8: of crime officers, they found amongst the debris a roll
- 18:32Speaker 8: of sellotape. The Forensic Science Service was able to say
- 18:35Speaker 8: that the roll of sellotape was a physical match to
- 18:38Speaker 8: the tape used on the recovered bin line as we
- 18:40Speaker 8: got back off Unwin. Not only that, there was a
- 18:43Speaker 8: fingerprint on the sellotape roll, which was Unwin's fingerprint. When
- 18:46Speaker 8: we got that evidence, obviously, we placed Unwin in the property.
- 18:49Speaker 8: There was no doubt he was the person responsible for
- 18:52Speaker 8: Mr Greenwell's savage murder, and we charged him with murder.
- 18:55Speaker 1: Stephen Unwin pleaded guilty to the murder of 73-year-old pensioner
- 19:00Speaker 1: John Greenwell. On 29th October 1999, the 21-year-old was sentenced
- 19:06Speaker 1: to life in prison at Newcastle Crown Court.
- 19:12Speaker 8: I was watching Unwin at the time, and in my eyes,
- 19:14Speaker 8: he showed no remorse whatsoever. At the end of Mr
- 19:18Speaker 8: Greenwell's case, I was interviewed, and I remember saying quite
- 19:20Speaker 8: clearly that I thought Unwin was a very, very dangerous man,
- 19:24Speaker 8: and I didn't say that lightly.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Stephen Unwin and William McFall were both in their 20s
- 19:30Speaker 1: when they killed frail and defenceless pensioners.
- 19:35Speaker 3: One question must always remain. McFall and Unwin, both burgled, elderly,
- 19:42Speaker 3: very vulnerable people. Why didn't they just leave it? at burglary?
- 19:48Speaker 3: Why did they proceed to kill Martha and John? What
- 19:52Speaker 3: was it in their nature, in their character, that drove
- 19:55Speaker 3: them to kill? I would argue that it's a propensity
- 20:00Speaker 3: to violence and a propensity to murder that exists in
- 20:03Speaker 3: both men, which is why, when you add them together,
- 20:07Speaker 3: they become even more dangerous.
- 20:10Speaker 5: I think burglaries are a bit of a sideshow to
- 20:12Speaker 5: what these crimes are really about. They are about dominating
- 20:16Speaker 5: and controlling other people, and their victims were elderly, they
- 20:20Speaker 5: were vulnerable. This really does add to the gravity of
- 20:23Speaker 5: their crimes. They're never going to go after some muscle-bound
- 20:26Speaker 5: man who is more than a match for them. They
- 20:29Speaker 5: will always target those who can't fight back.
- 20:32Speaker 1: William McFall and Stephen Unwin, two convicted killers, would meet
- 20:37Speaker 1: and become friends in prison. Both men were released on
- 20:42Speaker 1: licence after serving just 14 years of their life sentences.
- 20:50Speaker 1: While Unwin was still in prison, he got back in
- 20:53Speaker 1: touch with a girl he'd met as a teenager. To
- 20:58Speaker 1: protect her identity, Rachel is not her real name and
- 21:02Speaker 1: her image has been concealed.
- 21:06Speaker 4: When I first met Stephen, he was quite charming.
- 21:09Speaker 9: You know, the typical teenage charming lad, bit of Jack
- 21:13Speaker 9: the Lad, made us laugh and we started dating for
- 21:16Speaker 9: a little bit. It was like a teenage sort of
- 21:19Speaker 9: summer romance kind of thing. And then we just ended
- 21:23Speaker 9: up losing touch after that. When I first started talking
- 21:27Speaker 9: to Stephen back in prison, I didn't really think much
- 21:30Speaker 9: of it. A mutual friend got us talking again through
- 21:33Speaker 9: phone calls and letters and stuff. He had the charm
- 21:37Speaker 9: when I was speaking to him on the phone. made
- 21:39Speaker 9: everything seem like it was okay.
- 21:41Speaker 1: In December 2012, 34-year-old Stephen Unwin was released on license
- 21:47Speaker 1: to serve the remaining years of his life sentence supervised
- 21:51Speaker 1: by probation.
- 21:53Speaker 9: When Stephen was released from prison, he convinced everyone he
- 21:55Speaker 9: was a changed man, even his probation officer. Even she
- 21:59Speaker 9: believed that he was remorseful for what he'd done, that
- 22:01Speaker 9: he was never going to reoffend again.
- 22:04Speaker 2: He moved back to his native northeast and lived and
- 22:08Speaker 2: worked in the Sunderland area and the Hotel of Spring area,
- 22:11Speaker 2: where he worked as a handyman, carrying out maintenance on properties.
- 22:16Speaker 1: By 2014, Rachel and Unwin lived together and were expecting
- 22:21Speaker 1: a daughter.
- 22:22Speaker 4: When I first told Stephen I was pregnant, he was
- 22:24Speaker 4: quite excited.
- 22:25Speaker 9: He was there through the pregnancy and he was there
- 22:29Speaker 9: at the birth as well.
- 22:29Speaker 4: He was quite good at the birth.
- 22:32Speaker 1: Family life was great at first.
- 22:35Speaker 4: Absolute daughter and dad, to be honest. He was a
- 22:38Speaker 4: good dad to her. It's one thing I can say.
- 22:41Speaker 5: Many men who engage in criminal and violent behavior are fathers,
- 22:46Speaker 5: and I would say that none of them are good fathers.
- 22:49Speaker 5: What they are very good at is performing the role
- 22:52Speaker 5: of the good father, the doting father, because they're aware
- 22:55Speaker 5: that that is going to distract attention.
- 22:58Speaker 1: And Unwin struggled to keep up the charade of the caring,
- 23:02Speaker 1: loving partner and dad.
- 23:04Speaker 9: He was a very jealous man. Stephen was abusive a
- 23:07Speaker 9: couple of times. Once, he got all of us by
- 23:10Speaker 9: the throat. Never hit us, but more sort of mental abuse.
- 23:16Speaker 9: Convinced I wasn't good enough for anybody else, that I
- 23:18Speaker 9: was his and his only.
- 23:20Speaker 4: He was an angry man. He had lots of issues,
- 23:24Speaker 4: especially when he was drinking. He'd become very, very angry.
- 23:28Speaker 4: just at everything and everyone.
- 23:30Speaker 5: I look at Unwin's behaviour and what I see is
- 23:32Speaker 5: somebody who is a misogynist. Men like Unwin are possessive
- 23:37Speaker 5: and jealous in their relationships with women because they see
- 23:40Speaker 5: women as their possessions, who are there to meet their needs.
- 23:44Speaker 1: While Unwin was living with Rachel, he kept in touch
- 23:47Speaker 1: with his old cellmate, William McFall, who'd moved to Blackpool
- 23:52Speaker 1: after his release from prison in 2010. Stephen used to
- 23:55Speaker 1: talk about McFall a lot.
- 23:57Speaker 9: My first impression of McFall was that he was just bonkers, basically.
- 24:02Speaker 4: He liked to have a good laugh. He liked his drugs.
- 24:05Speaker 4: He used to smoke cannabis.
- 24:07Speaker 1: But Rachel soon realised there was something about McFall that
- 24:11Speaker 1: didn't feel right.
- 24:14Speaker 4: McFall was very scary. Just the way he looked.
- 24:18Speaker 9: That he had a lot of anger inside him, which
- 24:21Speaker 9: was really scary, yeah.
- 24:22Speaker 4: I never felt safe around him.
- 24:24Speaker 1: The relationship between Rachel and Unwin was becoming increasingly strained.
- 24:28Speaker 1: The couple eventually broke up in December 2016.
- 24:33Speaker 9: Final separation from Stephen was I'd just had enough of
- 24:37Speaker 9: failing the way I felt.
- 24:38Speaker 4: I was never happy.
- 24:40Speaker 9: For all he did do it on our little one,
- 24:42Speaker 9: I wasn't happy with him and I just said enough's enough.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Rachel's departure from her relationship with Stephen Unwin is significant.
- 24:51Speaker 3: I think it unsettles Unwin, and he doesn't quite know
- 24:54Speaker 3: where to turn. The obvious person, of course, is McFall, his, quote, friend.
- 24:59Speaker 3: And indeed, McFall cements that by leaving Blackpool and moving
- 25:05Speaker 3: to stay with Unwin.
- 25:07Speaker 1: By the summer of 2017, McFall and Unwin, the two
- 25:11Speaker 1: convicted killers released on license, were living together at St.
- 25:16Speaker 1: Oswald's Terrace in the Houghton-le-Spring area near Sunderland.
- 25:24Speaker 5: When Unwin and McFall joined forces, they really amplified their
- 25:29Speaker 5: level of dangerousness and violence because it's not just about
- 25:33Speaker 5: committing crime and hurting people now. It's about doing that
- 25:36Speaker 5: and performing it in front of another individual. So you
- 25:40Speaker 5: have that competitive element that's going on.
- 25:47Speaker 1: Unwin's and McFall's behavior escalated. They stole substantial cannabis crops
- 25:55Speaker 1: and tried to get hold of guns. They were like
- 25:59Speaker 1: a ticking time bomb about to explode. In the early
- 26:05Speaker 1: hours of the 15th of August, 2017, Tyne and Wear
- 26:09Speaker 1: Fire Service in England received what seemed to be a
- 26:13Speaker 1: routine 999 call. A car had been spotted ablaze down
- 26:18Speaker 1: a quiet lane near the allotments behind Shiny Row in Houghton-le-Spring.
- 26:24Speaker 1: But the inferno was concealing an horrific secret.
- 26:28Speaker 3: When the fire brigade finally extinguish the blaze, they do
- 26:33Speaker 3: discover what they think is the body of a child
- 26:37Speaker 3: in the back. In fact, it's just a very small woman,
- 26:41Speaker 3: and it rapidly turns into a murder investigation.
- 26:48Speaker 2: The flames were so intense that a horrific damage had
- 26:51Speaker 2: been caused to her body, and when investigators were able
- 26:54Speaker 2: to get close to the car, they discovered that her
- 26:57Speaker 2: body had been fused into the back seat.
- 27:00Speaker 1: The car had been burning for over an hour, and
- 27:03Speaker 1: the dead body inside was unidentifiable.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Initial information came out from the police in the normal
- 27:13Speaker 2: fashion that journalists get to hear about breaking news stories,
- 27:16Speaker 2: but there was very little detail to start with.
- 27:18Speaker 3: It was a curious case.
- 27:19Speaker 2: Not much information was given initially.
- 27:23Speaker 1: The passport and other documentation were recovered from the burnt-out car,
- 27:29Speaker 1: but police needed more to identify the body on the
- 27:32Speaker 1: back seat of the black Audi. Later that morning, Gwen
- 27:44Speaker 1: Nyok-Nguyen woke up and realized her sister Gwen had not
- 27:48Speaker 1: come home the night before.
- 27:52Speaker 2: She tried to contact her by mobile phone without success.
- 27:55Speaker 2: And she alerted the authorities and went out looking for
- 27:59Speaker 2: her herself without any success. And later in the day,
- 28:03Speaker 2: she was told the terrible news that Quinn's car had
- 28:07Speaker 2: been found burnt out and that there was a body
- 28:10Speaker 2: inside it.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Only dental records could confirm that the body found in
- 28:16Speaker 1: the burnt-out car was that of her sister, 28-year-old mother
- 28:21Speaker 1: of two, Nguyen Ngoc Nguyen. Nguyen was originally from Vietnam.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Little is known about her life before she relocated to
- 28:33Speaker 1: Berkeley near Gateshead.
- 28:36Speaker 2: She arrived in Britain in 2010 when she moved to
- 28:39Speaker 2: London to study business at a university. Following her studies,
- 28:43Speaker 2: she moved to the northeast of England, where she worked
- 28:46Speaker 2: with her sister.
- 28:47Speaker 3: In a nail bar.
- 28:49Speaker 2: She also was involved in the management of residential properties,
- 28:52Speaker 2: looking after them and sourcing tenants for those properties. She
- 28:56Speaker 2: was a caring, loving, devoted, hardworking mother of two. All
- 29:00Speaker 2: her working hours, really, were spent providing for her family.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Thanks to CCTV footage, police were quickly able to retrace
- 29:10Speaker 1: Gwyn's final steps.
- 29:13Speaker 2: CCTV footage was crucial to this case and the first
- 29:16Speaker 2: relevant footage was at 6.12pm when Gwyn was seen leaving
- 29:21Speaker 2: Glitter Nails, the nail bar that she ran with her
- 29:23Speaker 2: sister in Gateshead.
- 29:25Speaker 3: And then there's some more CCTV that shows her outside
- 29:29Speaker 3: the back of Unwin's house.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Gwyn had driven to St Oswald's Terrace for a business
- 29:36Speaker 1: meeting with Stephen Unwin.
- 29:39Speaker 2: Gwyn came into contact with Unwin because she managed a
- 29:42Speaker 2: number of residential properties and Unwin would work as a
- 29:47Speaker 2: handyman doing minor maintenance jobs on these properties. McFall would
- 29:51Speaker 2: work for £ 50 a day helping Unwin in this job.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Quinn and her sister spoke at 7 o'clock when her
- 29:58Speaker 2: sister asked her when she would be home that night
- 30:01Speaker 2: and Quinn explained she would be late because she had
- 30:03Speaker 2: some business to attend to at a rental property.
- 30:06Speaker 1: At 7.24pm, Quinn arrived at St Oswald's Terrace and was
- 30:10Speaker 1: greeted by Stephen Unwin.
- 30:13Speaker 2: This is the last moment that Quinn is ever seen
- 30:15Speaker 2: alive by anyone other than Unwin and McFall.
- 30:24Speaker 3: Unwin invites her in. having told McFall to hide, to
- 30:30Speaker 3: conceal his existence in the house.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Once Quinn had entered the property, it isn't exactly known,
- 30:36Speaker 2: apart from by when Winnie McFall, exactly what happened.
- 30:39Speaker 3: Now, precisely what happens next and in precisely what order
- 30:43Speaker 3: is a matter of conjecture. But we can be sure
- 30:48Speaker 3: that Quinn, this tiny little Vietnamese woman, is subdued very quickly.
- 30:58Speaker 5: The attack on Quinn happened over a number of hours,
- 31:02Speaker 5: and at any point during this time, either or both
- 31:05Speaker 5: of these men could have decided not to go any further,
- 31:08Speaker 5: to call it a day, to say, no, we're not
- 31:10Speaker 5: doing any more here.
- 31:12Speaker 4: But they didn't.
- 31:13Speaker 5: They followed it through. And I think they fed off
- 31:15Speaker 5: each other's energy when they were doing that.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Quinn was forced to hand over her bank cards and
- 31:21Speaker 1: reveal the PIN numbers.
- 31:27Speaker 3: So she's been in their hands for hours. And she's
- 31:32Speaker 3: been subjected to the worst imaginable treatment. She's been just
- 31:38Speaker 3: about allowed to live so they can make sure they've
- 31:41Speaker 3: got the right PIN number so that she can, in
- 31:44Speaker 3: a sense, give them money.
- 31:46Speaker 1: At 9.51pm, Arnwil was seen getting into his van at
- 31:50Speaker 1: St Oswald's Terrace.
- 31:52Speaker 2: The CCTV camera at the back of the house captured
- 31:55Speaker 2: Unwin leaving the property and then driving to a nearby
- 31:58Speaker 2: co-op where he used her bank card to withdraw cash
- 32:03Speaker 2: and then to go and buy a bottle of spirits.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Unwin withdrew 500 pounds using Quinn's card. The PIN number
- 32:10Speaker 1: she'd given them was correct.
- 32:13Speaker 3: But then the most horrific element of it all emerges.
- 32:17Speaker 1: At 11.35 p.m., the CCTV at the back of the
- 32:21Speaker 1: house captured more movement.
- 32:24Speaker 3: Shortly after half past 11 that evening in August 2017,
- 32:29Speaker 3: the two men are seen again on CCTV carrying Gwen's
- 32:35Speaker 3: body wrapped in a sheet to the back of her car,
- 32:40Speaker 3: her Audi.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Quinn was very petite. She was only five foot tall
- 32:44Speaker 2: and seven stones tall. and Unwin was clearly capable of
- 32:48Speaker 2: carrying her out. McFall walked behind him, making sure that
- 32:52Speaker 2: she'd completely covered her body.
- 32:55Speaker 3: They put her in the back seat and drive it
- 32:59Speaker 3: not terribly far away.
- 33:01Speaker 2: She was still alive at this point, but only just.
- 33:04Speaker 2: They then drove a short distance, around a mile away,
- 33:07Speaker 2: to a deserted remote lane where they set fire to
- 33:11Speaker 2: the car in an attempt to cover their tracks.
- 33:15Speaker 1: While the fire was taking hold of the car with
- 33:17Speaker 1: Gwyn lying gravely injured in the back seat, Unwin and
- 33:21Speaker 1: McFall walked back home as if nothing had happened. Several
- 33:26Speaker 1: CCTV cameras picked up their whereabouts as they returned on
- 33:30Speaker 1: foot to St. Oswald's Terrace to pick up Unwin's car.
- 33:33Speaker 2: 30 minutes after killing Gwyn and disposing of her body
- 33:37Speaker 2: by setting her car alight, they were in Unwin's Audi
- 33:41Speaker 2: driving around the local area.
- 33:44Speaker 1: The men drove to a local post office to use
- 33:46Speaker 1: Quinn's bank card once more and withdrew another £ 500. They
- 33:51Speaker 1: returned to St. Oswald's Terrace around the same time the
- 33:55Speaker 1: burning car was spotted and the fire service was called
- 33:58Speaker 1: at 12.34 a.m.
- 34:01Speaker 5: The details of how McFall and Unwin took Quinn in
- 34:05Speaker 5: her own car to a deserted road where they would
- 34:08Speaker 5: then set fire to her body. There are so many
- 34:11Speaker 5: elements here of control, of possession. We have taken what
- 34:16Speaker 5: we wanted from you. We've had our fun with you.
- 34:18Speaker 5: We're now going to destroy you. And we're going to
- 34:21Speaker 5: destroy something that's important to you as well. Your car
- 34:24Speaker 5: is a symbol of your success and your independence and
- 34:27Speaker 5: your accomplishments. So we're going to get rid of that too.
- 34:31Speaker 1: The next day, Gwyn's ruthless killers casually went shopping and
- 34:35Speaker 1: to the pub with no apparent fear of being caught
- 34:38Speaker 1: for their crimes. The CCTV images captured on the evening
- 34:44Speaker 1: of the 14th of August were the last time Gwyn
- 34:47Speaker 1: Nyok Nguyen was seen alive. Four hours later, her dead
- 34:52Speaker 1: body was discovered inside a burned-out car.
- 34:57Speaker 2: During the four-hour ordeal in the house when Gwyn was
- 34:59Speaker 2: lying on the floor after being severely beaten, and when
- 35:03Speaker 2: she was close to death, quite unbelievably, MacFarlane Unwin then
- 35:07Speaker 2: cooked a curry and casually ate it.
- 35:11Speaker 5: I think this shows us the absolute lack of empathy,
- 35:14Speaker 5: the absolute lack of attachment, of understanding of other people's
- 35:17Speaker 5: emotions and suffering that these men have. They are just
- 35:21Speaker 5: about fulfilling their own basic needs. They cooked the curry
- 35:25Speaker 5: because they were hungry. They wanted something to eat. and
- 35:27Speaker 5: the fact that somebody's dying on the floor next to
- 35:30Speaker 5: them is immaterial to them.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Thanks to CCTV, the killer's whereabouts on the night of
- 35:36Speaker 1: the murder and the following day could be quickly retraced.
- 35:41Speaker 1: The footage was damning.
- 35:43Speaker 2: The police were on to one man very quickly. Early
- 35:45Speaker 2: investigations led them to his door. He'd used Quinn's bank
- 35:49Speaker 2: card to withdraw money from her account and had bought
- 35:51Speaker 2: some spirits with it, and he'd been caught on various
- 35:54Speaker 2: CCTV in the area.
- 35:56Speaker 3: They have left so much evidence, there is so much CCTV,
- 36:02Speaker 3: that it beggars belief. They haven't even thought out any
- 36:07Speaker 3: explanation for any of this action.
- 36:12Speaker 2: Within 24 hours of the attack on Quinn, the police
- 36:16Speaker 2: arrested Unwin. McFall was actually pulled into the inquiry early
- 36:19Speaker 2: on as a witness initially, but he was very quickly
- 36:22Speaker 2: arrested as a suspect as well.
- 36:24Speaker 5: Looking at the evidence against them, it was incredibly compelling,
- 36:28Speaker 5: and it shows us how stupid these two were as well.
- 36:31Speaker 3: They're very brutish.
- 36:33Speaker 5: They're very primitive in a way because they're so focused
- 36:36Speaker 5: on the violence, they're so fixated on that, that they're
- 36:38Speaker 5: not really doing very much to think about how they're
- 36:41Speaker 5: going to get away with it, and that's why they don't.
- 36:44Speaker 1: Police also analyzed the data on the men's mobile phones.
- 36:48Speaker 1: The content was highly incriminating.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Evidence was found on the phones of them chatting to
- 36:54Speaker 2: each other, plotting the attack going back a number of weeks,
- 36:57Speaker 2: and also of them communicating with each other and other
- 37:00Speaker 2: people in the hours after Quinn had been murdered. Approximately
- 37:05Speaker 2: half an hour after they set fire to Quinn's car,
- 37:09Speaker 2: McFall took a selfie of the both of them in
- 37:12Speaker 2: the car. McFall was smiling on the selfie, seemingly without
- 37:15Speaker 2: a care in the world, and he sent that to
- 37:17Speaker 2: a friend.
- 37:20Speaker 5: The fact that this guy wanted to document this in
- 37:23Speaker 5: a photograph, he wanted to take a picture of himself
- 37:26Speaker 5: at this time, this is really significant. This is a
- 37:29Speaker 5: sort of decisive moment for him that he wants to
- 37:31Speaker 5: capture in a picture. It's almost a celebratory mood.
- 37:36Speaker 3: Both men are charged with the murder of Quinn.
- 37:40Speaker 1: News of the murder spread through the local community. Unwin's
- 37:44Speaker 1: ex-partner and mother to his daughter was shocked.
- 37:48Speaker 4: It was on the local news.
- 37:50Speaker 9: His picture got brought up, and I just burst into tears.
- 37:54Speaker 9: It's just the thought that he'd been in my.
- 37:57Speaker 4: Life, really.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Only the day before killing Gwyn, Unwin's daughter had stayed
- 38:03Speaker 1: with him at St. Oswald's Terrace, as she did so
- 38:06Speaker 1: on many weekends.
- 38:07Speaker 9: Just before the murder, Stephen had had my daughter on
- 38:10Speaker 9: the Saturday night, overnight. He came, dropped her back off
- 38:14Speaker 9: on the Sunday sort of late morning, just seemed normal.
- 38:18Speaker 9: Mr McFall was also sitting in the car, but hadn't
- 38:21Speaker 9: gotten out of the car.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Thanks to overwhelming evidence, police were able to shed some
- 38:27Speaker 1: light on the horrific events that took place on the
- 38:30Speaker 1: night of the murder. It emerged that Gwyn had been
- 38:35Speaker 1: sexually assaulted. Furthermore, she was dragged through the house, beaten
- 38:41Speaker 1: and asphyxiated.
- 38:43Speaker 2: They obtained a DNA sample using her toothbrush and a
- 38:46Speaker 2: face mask that she had previously used at the nail
- 38:49Speaker 2: bar that she ran with her sister. And using that
- 38:52Speaker 2: DNA profile, they were then able to piece together what
- 38:55Speaker 2: had happened at the crime scene in Unwin's house.
- 38:59Speaker 3: As if there could be the slightest doubt of Unwin
- 39:03Speaker 3: and McFall's guilt, Gwen's DNA is found on Unwin's tracksuit bottoms.
- 39:10Speaker 1: It was the evidence investigators needed to charge Stephen Unwin
- 39:15Speaker 1: with rape as well as murder.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Police were also able to prove that she'd been sexually
- 39:21Speaker 2: abused with a number of items, including a gas gun.
- 39:24Speaker 1: The forensics team found Gwyn's DNA on the barrel of
- 39:28Speaker 1: McFall's gas gun. and chillingly on a toy lightsaber belonging
- 39:35Speaker 1: to Unwin's young daughter.
- 39:37Speaker 5: I think parents feel a particular kind of attachment to
- 39:42Speaker 5: objects that their children play with, because these objects represent innocence.
- 39:47Speaker 5: But those parents are people who have an emotional attachment
- 39:51Speaker 5: to their children. I don't think that Unwin does. I
- 39:54Speaker 5: don't think he has an emotional attachment to anyone. So
- 39:57Speaker 5: I think he would have assaulted Quinn with whatever was there, essentially.
- 40:06Speaker 1: Six months after the murder of Gwyn, the trial began
- 40:09Speaker 1: on the 20th of February 2018 at Newcastle Crown Court.
- 40:14Speaker 2: The most striking thing about their court case was their
- 40:16Speaker 2: behaviour in court, especially McFall. He made a series of
- 40:19Speaker 2: outbursts throughout the trial. On one occasion, he made a
- 40:23Speaker 2: throat-cutting gesture towards the press bench. Unwin was a lot different.
- 40:28Speaker 2: He seemed to be this quiet, smouldering individual. He was
- 40:31Speaker 2: clearly capable of incredibly violent, dangerous acts. but he just
- 40:35Speaker 2: seemed to sit there with his very calm demeanor throughout
- 40:38Speaker 2: the trial, as if he was on trial for an
- 40:40Speaker 2: incredibly minor offense.
- 40:43Speaker 5: Behavior in the courtroom is always really revealing, and this
- 40:45Speaker 5: case is no exception. So Unwin was quite cool and
- 40:49Speaker 5: calm and collected, and I think that tells us about
- 40:52Speaker 5: his coldness, about how unaffected he is by things. McFall,
- 40:57Speaker 5: on the other hand, was the opposite end of the spectrum.
- 41:00Speaker 5: he would break down and freak out and make a
- 41:03Speaker 5: scene on multiple occasions. And I think this tells us
- 41:06Speaker 5: a lot about the dynamic between these two. Unwin is
- 41:09Speaker 5: the puppet master.
- 41:11Speaker 3: McFall is the puppet.
- 41:13Speaker 1: The killers were convinced they'd found a legal loophole by
- 41:17Speaker 1: which they could escape justice.
- 41:20Speaker 3: They're both going to claim that the other one did
- 41:23Speaker 3: it to confuse the jury.
- 41:28Speaker 2: McFall's version of events is that he walked into the
- 41:30Speaker 2: property and discovered Unwin raping Quinn and then strangling her.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Unwin claimed the polar opposite. He claimed he walked into
- 41:39Speaker 2: the property to find McFall strangling Quinn.
- 41:44Speaker 3: It's an absolute cacophony of silliness, except it's so awful,
- 41:50Speaker 3: so serious, it demands to be treated as it was,
- 41:53Speaker 3: which is barbarism.
- 41:56Speaker 1: The jury didn't fall for it and decided both men
- 41:59Speaker 1: were equally responsible for Gwyn's murder. On the 25th of April, 2018,
- 42:05Speaker 1: William McFall and Stephen Unwin were given whole-life prison sentences.
- 42:10Speaker 1: This time, they will never be released.
- 42:15Speaker 2: Anyone connected with this case will remember it for many
- 42:17Speaker 2: years because the horrific degree of cruelty they both exhibited
- 42:20Speaker 2: towards Gwyn and the way that they disposed of her
- 42:23Speaker 2: body There are no happy endings in this case for
- 42:27Speaker 2: Quinn's family at all, but one tiny degree of comfort
- 42:30Speaker 2: is them knowing that they will never, ever be released
- 42:33Speaker 2: from prison.
- 42:34Speaker 3: This meeting of two murderous men who meet by coincidence
- 42:43Speaker 3: in a jail cell meant that they were more dangerous
- 42:46Speaker 3: together than they were apart. The treatment of Quinn... literally
- 42:55Speaker 3: is heartbreaking. What she had to suffer was all but unimaginable.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Stephen Unwin and William McFall are ruthless killers in their
- 43:06Speaker 1: own right. They preyed on the most vulnerable when they
- 43:10Speaker 1: viciously killed elderly pensioners. And when they joined forces, the
- 43:15Speaker 1: sadistic nature of their wicked ways knew no bounds. they
- 43:21Speaker 1: brutally murdered an innocent young mother and set fire to
- 43:25Speaker 1: her car while she was still alive inside, all for
- 43:30Speaker 1: their own twisted gratification, making Stephen Unwin and William McFall
- 43:37Speaker 1: two of the world's most evil killers.