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Tom Loungo EXPOSES Why DAVOS JUST LOST CONTROL | EP 1424 · Simply Bitcoin

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  Today, I'm here with the legend himself, Tom Luongo, to discuss
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  everything that has happened at this year's World Economic Forum
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  in Davos. So, Tom, thank you so much for
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  being here. I'm just going to dive straight
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  into it. Did Davos finally lose control
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  this year in 2026? What's your read on what you saw
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  coming out of the World Economic Forum?
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  Well, before we started, thank you, by the way, thank you very
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  much for the invite. This one, this is gonna this
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  should be a a a blast today. So before we started, you asked
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  the question, you framed the question a little differently.
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  You said did they surrender and I my answer to you is no.
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  Did they lose control? Yes.
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  OK, OK, maybe unpack that. So I did ask Tom before we went
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  live, did the globalist finally give up?
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  He said no. And then I did switch them on.
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  Did they finally lose control? So you can pick whichever way
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  you want to go with that. Yeah, you know, the words
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  matter, semantics matter. And, you know, let's not, let's
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  not, let's not get ourselves, we're not commies.
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  We actually have to be, you know, precise in our language.
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  So, yeah, no, they didn't. They're they're not
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  surrendering, right. Mark Carney's speech was very
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  clear. I think my, my friend Susan
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  Gokendo over Promethean action did a great thing with the the
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  latest her, her Wednesday update yesterday where she, you know,
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  very graciously quoted me, which was great, but I'm going to pay
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  it, pay it forward when she said, you know, Carney was out
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  there doing the, the standard, you know, globalist.
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  We have to try and reassert ourselves as, as the, the adults
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  in the room. And of course, nobody's
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  believing this anymore because Trump actually went in and was
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  very surprisingly, I was actually surprised at how low
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  key his speech was in terms of delivery, not in terms of what
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  he said, right? But what he delivered in his
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  delivery was wasn't on Trumpian, right?
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  Like you could tell the parts where he was reading off the
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  teleprompter and reading the speeches as written for him by
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  Stephen Miller. And then there were the other
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  parts where he just went all script and was Donald Trump.
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  And it was a very interesting mix of the two personalities.
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  And what I what was very clear to me was that was that Trump
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  was giving them, you know, every flaming bag of poop that he had
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  brought to the to the the table and was shooting it all over the
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  audience. I mean, he did not spare anyone,
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  right? He didn't spare Gavin Newsom, he
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  didn't spare Manuel Macron. He didn't spare any Mark Carney,
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  all of them. And he was, and he only one time
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  did he let his real anger and his real frustration show.
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  And that was impressive to me because, you know, that was that
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  moment. I don't remember quite where it
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  was in the speech, but you'll find it.
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  Go watch the whole thing and you'll see that moment where he
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  finally just lets it out. And he's like, oh God, I fucking
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  hate these people. And I hate what you've done to
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  the world. And I'm going to fix it.
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  And that little moment told you everything you needed to know.
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  They're not backing down, but they don't have any cards to
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  play against him other than to shoot him and or foment a civil
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  war in the United States. So This is why we have to unpack
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  the difference between did they surrender?
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  No. Will they be able to do anything
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  about it or are we are, you know, are we winning?
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  Yes, But it's going to be a war all the way out the door.
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  These people are going to burn everything to the ground.
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  I've been saying this for a while now and I'll be honest
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  with you. I know this is a Bitcoin
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  podcast. So that means that we're we're
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  probably dealing with a bunch of bed wetting, pill abiding
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  libertarians in the audience who cannot handle the fact that you
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  sometimes have to fight to to, you know, preserve both
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  civilization in your own community that you can't just
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  stand around all day and go quote Rothbart at them and hope
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  that hope for the best. It just doesn't fucking work.
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  So this is where you have to get down the the brass tacks and
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  sometimes when you're thinking about, you have to look at the
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  world fractally and think of your communities fractally.
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  And in this case, it is absolutely our national
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  community, our state actor has the ability on the world stage
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  to is the only thing powerful enough to deal with other state
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  actors. And hate to hate to break it to
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  everybody that this is the way it works.
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  So you can have a government that is openly globalist working
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  all along with all these people, which is what we've all lived
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  under and we've all been imprinted under.
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  And then we can have a government that actually doesn't
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  want to act that way in this asserting its sovereignty and
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  asserting its independence. Between Lutnick and big day
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  Patton, Scott Besant and Trump, I think the message was
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  delivered very loud and very clear and without a bunch of
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  histrionics. It was actually quite non
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  toxically masculine. It was just simply, look, this
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  is what we're doing. And you can either join us or,
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  you know, we're going to run you over because everybody else
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  wants to go along with us. And you people are the weirdos,
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  you know, walking around with, you know, in your banana
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  hammocks and you're, you know, look, looking for gold and, and
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  on on beaches and, you know, having your little weird, the
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  little weird parties and collecting your little weird art
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  and, you know, sitting in your castles counting your money.
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  No, we're done with this. This is over.
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  You are not the great philosopher kings that, you
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  know, have to be the shepherds of humanity.
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  So they laid that out quite explicitly and quite clearly.
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  And of course, when you're dealing with this kind of, and
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  this is where you got to kind of get into the psychology of of
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  all of this, when you get into this kind of devouring mother
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  style politics, which is what these people practice.
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  Like, I don't care if we're talking about the, you know, the
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  British Empire in the reputational attacks with the
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  media and everything else, or we're talking about the way
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  Ursula Bond or Satan and Kya Kallis and all those people run
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  the European Union with this kind of vague disgust at men
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  actually having a say in the matter on anything.
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  When you when you when you break down what they're doing, what
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  they're talking about, OK, It's very clear that they do not
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  believe in boundaries, they don't believe in borders, right?
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  They don't believe in any of those things.
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  They believe in open free trade and open depredation and
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  financialization of everything in order to control the world.
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  And that's not the model that most libertarians have in their
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  head. When they think free markets and
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  free trade, they think the exact opposite, which they're right
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  about and which is, you know, is the kind of the Austro
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  libertarian, the end of Austro libertarian thinking, which is
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  that unfettered free trade, or at least the ruthless defense of
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  property rights in a very Rothbardian sense, would lead to
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  intentional communities that set up very clear freaking
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  boundaries that if you cross my boundaries, I have the right to
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  shoot you right. Then again, the name of the
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  service is gold, goats and guns, folks.
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  I haven't, you know, repudiated that.
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  But that's not the world we live in.
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  We don't live in that world. And most, most modern
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  libertarians don't can't see the difference between the world we
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  live in, the world we've got, and the world that they want and
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  the path to get there. I've been screaming about this
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  since I first got in front of a microphone on Periscope back in
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  during the first Trump campaign in 2016 about like, this is the
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  world we want. I'm going to argue for the world
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  we want, not the world we've got.
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  But how we get there is a very important thing.
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  And order of operations matters. So we're at a point now where
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  you're going to have to just make the deal with the dragon,
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  in this case, Donald Trump or, and, or the Federal Reserve or
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  any of these, these other institutions that have an
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  unbelievable amount of actual power, real power.
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  They command armies, they command financial tools that no
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  one else has. And if those things are used for
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  the right purpose in the right way, this they're going to make
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  mistakes. And you can like argue about
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  that all the day long. But in the but in the general
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  sense, they're there for protecting or reasserting and
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  going to war on behalf of human sovereignty.
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  Then you have to let them go do that job.
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  You know, you have to think of Donald Trump like the gargoyle
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  that, that guards the cathedral, right?
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  The cathedral is, is us, right? The cathedral is civilization.
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  We have all these anti civilizational forces out there,
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  two of which just got in, got arrested by Pam Bondi for
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  breaking into a church in Minneapolis over the weekend.
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  I, I, I note the irony of, of, of, of arresting fat black BLM
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  agitators under the KKK act. I don't know about you, but 2026
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  has been the most fucking hilarious thing I've seen so
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  far. So now when you, when you look
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  at it that way, what Trump is, you know what, what we're,
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  we're, we're staring at here is that moment where you have to
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  say they're the gargoyles standing outside the gates of
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  the cathedral to stop the freaking Barbarians, the
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  gargoyles not allowed to enter the cathedral.
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  Donald Trump is going to be vilified through history the
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  same way that we, we look at Patton as a very complicated
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  figure because he understood that you fight the war all the
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  way to the end. And the goal of World War 2 was
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  to stop, was to protect Eastern Europe from being overrun by
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  communists or the fascists. But then we handed them off to
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  the fucking communists and he's like, no, no, no, we, we have to
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  protect them as well. So the war's unfinished if we
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  don't push the Soviets back into Russia where they belong.
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  So that's what we're, it's that dichotomy, It's that, it's that
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  tension that exists within the, the, the modern quote UN quote
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  libertarian, right? And, and you know, it is being,
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  I'll be honest with you, it's being intentionally like pushed
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  by certain people who purport to be libertarians in the
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  commentariat as they pillow bite their way through, Oh my God,
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  Trump said something terrible yesterday or he's not doing
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  enough to win the midterms. Or I, I, and I could sit here,
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  name names all fucking day long. And, and you see me do it on
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  Twitter. If you watch me at all, you know
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  exactly who I'm talking about. These people are operatives like
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  they're, they're there literally to, to, to feed your reason and
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  feed your enthusiasm for this, because they don't actually want
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  to win. They just want to continue their
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  grift of being commentators in a space where they can criticize
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  whoever's in power. And that's retarded because
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  libertarianism had its most powerful moment during 2006,
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  2008, 2010, 2012, all during those Ron Paul years when we
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  were in the opposition and the and the zeitgeist started to
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  come to us and we were in opposition.
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  And when you're in opposition, yeah, you're holding your
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  principles and you get douchebag and you and you and you pound
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  the table like literally like fucking communist, like as hard
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  as possible. And I mean that rhetorically,
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  but the minute you get into power, you stop acting like the
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  opposition. And now you have to start
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  saying, OK, politics is the, is the, the art of the possible.
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  What can we get done practically in this amount of time with the
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  structures that we have in place?
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  Certain all of a sudden we're that's not, that's beyond the
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  pale. That's all of a sudden we can't
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  have that. And that was the, and that was
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  the message I delivered to the Mises Institute last year when I
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  went to and I gave the the keynote address and was
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  summarily rejected by the, the people.
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  And oh, by the way, no one can actually see it because, you
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  know, there are a bunch of works who are signaling libertarians
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  who can't handle even mild criticism.
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  That's fine. It is what it is.
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  I'm not bitter. So where we are today and as we
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  go, as we look at how the Davos is playing out, it's simply
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  this, it's the reassertion of we're going to, OK, let's let's
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  put it this way. From Davos's perspective, any
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  expression of masculinity, toxic or otherwise, is toxic, OK.
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  And it's fascist like, you know, having a dad at this point is
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  fascist. If you're white and you had a
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  dad, you're a fascist, which is retarded, of course, but that's
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  their, that's the way they've created, that's the way they've
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  set up the rhetoric, right? Everybody to the to the right of
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  Karl Marx is a fascist. Like, OK, that's a false I
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  added. And it's not and it's not
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  reasonable. It's not even close to being
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  rational. So when you watch Trump and it's
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  been interesting, I've talked to a couple of different people
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  since Trump's speech yesterday morning.
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  They've all said the same thing. They're like, huh, I've talked
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  to my my shit Lib friend because and watched the speech and
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  they're like, wow, I really like that version of Donald Trump.
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  Like, yeah, that guy's easily possible.
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  He's also that guy. OK, so Trump understands now is
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  the time to like, do the to do what's necessary to bring the
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  next, you know, cohort of people into the coalition.
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  But that's a that's a that's a political statement.
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  But what he did yesterday was just a kind of non-toxic
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  masculinity version of his normal self.
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  He's got Scott Besson, Big Gay Patton, he's got Howard Lutnick,
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  who literally just told them all, look, this is what we're
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  doing. Globalism is dead and you people
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  have destroyed the world. Now we're going to move forward.
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  And it was interesting to watch what Nick do that because I'm
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  not let Nick's biggest fan, but he was absolutely in his element
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  yesterday. It was very, very good.
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  So, yeah, I, I don't think Davos is going to surrender, but I do
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  think that Trump and company understand what the problem is.
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  And they all, I mean, even to the point where I think we had
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  Jameson Greer go to our trade representative, literally invoke
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  the Alexander Hamilton model of national greatness, which my
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  friends like Matt Erett and and others have been screaming about
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  for years. And hell, I used to think Matt
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  was a commie because he was arguing for Hamilton.
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  That's how far down the libertarian rat hole I was.
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  I had to, I had to apologize to him one day the last time I had
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  him on my podcast. So which I did, you know, flat
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  out. And so it was fun, but that's
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  the reality. The reality is that we're going
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  to use political power in this moment in time to change the
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  course of history and the course of human endeavor.
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  And if we lose this fight and this is a war, if we lose this
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  fight, that's it and we're done. And I, I can read all of the
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  chats and you guys all sound like the typical fucking
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  libertarians I've seen my entire I I've been listening to him for
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  the last year and 1/2. He likes to hear himself talk.
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  I'm ridiculous. I don't know what the hell I'm
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  talking about. I'm telling you all, you're a
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  bunch of bed wetting, pillow biting fucking retards and you
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  always have been. And it's time to grow up and
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  it's time to come out of your parents garage and get some
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  fucking shit done. You can't just stack gold, buy
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  Bitcoin and wait and chuckle and collapsitarian.
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  That's not a civilizational position and that was the whole
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  point of being a libertarian in the 1st place, which was to
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  offset and can and and and and be the antipode to the anti
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  civilizational forces of Marxism.
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  And yet you sound just exactly like Marxist.
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  So enjoy it, OK? I love it.
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  Love it No. Tom, I I told you I at some
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  point I wanted to touch on the libertarianism because I feel
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  like I've grown out of it, maybe in part because I've listened to
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  you. You've been one of the, I think
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  defining, I don't know, lights at the tunnel, explaining what's
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  going on in geopolitics. So I truly love what you've been
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  saying. There's a few people that I
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  listened to recently and I know for a lot of people in the
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  audience, it might be way out there.
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  It's like, what's this guy talking about?
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  But when you really we dive deep into what Tom's saying, it
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  starts to make a lot more sense than, you know, a 15 minute
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  tirade at the start of the show. So we're going to unpack it a
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  little bit. OK, We're.
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  Going to that wasn't that and that was and, and by the way,
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  for those of you who are the first time listening to this was
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  that was tame. OK, I that was tame.
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  So yeah. That was a tame Tom Rand.
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  OK, so let's unpack. We just got Davos Trump.
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  You know what Scott Besson done? What Lutnick has done at Davos?
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  First couple of days for a second, I just want to make one
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  I just. Want to make one thing
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  abundantly clear to anybody who thinks that Simon Dixon is not
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  City of City of London agent. You're out of your minds.
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  I will not debate. I do not debate people who think
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  who I know I can almost, I don't know this, but that's my
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  argument. I watch him and I watch the body
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  swerve and I can tell the difference between somebody
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  who's real and somebody who's trying to body swerve.
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  I nearly nearly got subsumed into that by about 6:00 or seven
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  different people over the course of my career in the last seven
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  or eight years. I've watched it happen.
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  I don't buy Simon Nixon one Wick.
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  That guy will that, that guy's a classic Pied Piper, walking in,
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  saying the right things and then body swerving and into the Dumer
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  cult. And that's him.
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  His job is to keep you there all day long.
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  No, you need hope and you need to be and you need to be
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  optimistic that you can win this fight, not lose it.
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  Bullshit. So fuck, all of that noise and
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  I'm dead serious. I mean, that goes double for
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  Robert Barnes and it goes double for all these people, every
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  goddamned one of them that has tried to keep you in this
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  pocket. Thomas Massie's rant, fucking
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  off brand, Rand Paul, all of these people, they're all not
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  your friends. They're all arguing to stay in
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  the Matrix. Thomas Massie's still screaming
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  about fucking Epstein, and meanwhile Trump is literally
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  remaking the goddamned world in your favor.
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  OK, go. OK, OK.
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  OK. So anyways, what I was going to
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  tee you up is it does seem like 2026 Trump is like a totally
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  different beast in 2025 Trump. So can we get a recap of where
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  what you saw Trump do in 2025 and then we'll take the
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  conversation from there? OK, so I'm going to I'm going to
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  I'll take the temperature down a notch now because I and I'll
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  stop looking at the chat because all the chat this is turned me
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  into old live stream Tom. And for those of you who will
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  watch this, who used to watch my old live streams on YouTube when
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  I used to get do pull a double rye, put on a hat and and start
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  screaming into the microphone. You know exactly what I'm
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  talking about. OK, so let's let's start with
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  the basics. What did Trump do to start the
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  to start his administration? The first thing he did was he
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  defunded as many of the Ng OS as possible.
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  He started the to pull the public money network away from
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  the globalist. So it was the beginning of and
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  it's not perfect. He has not stopped the flow.
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  He has slowed the flow down of your tax money of your life, the
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  hours of your life that you spend in support of the federal
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  government going to all of these quote UN quote non governmental
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  organizations and five O 1C threes that were then being used
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  to radicalize you and to replace you.
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  Right? Radicalize you with the thinking
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  that there's no chance that we can get out of this mess by
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  spending all of our money and spending us in the debtors
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  prison and spending money in ways that would make drunken
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  sailors blush. No, we have that on one side and
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  then take that money and then use it to try and replace you to
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  subsidize hundreds of billions of dollars worth of devil's
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  legions around the world, drug running, human trafficking,
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  stolen elections, you know, all of it.
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  I mean, every freaking bit of it down to like suppressing the
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  price of gold and silver. Like how, where do you think
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  this money comes from? Well, how do you think they were
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  able to fund these systems? So he starts there, right?
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  And this is all downstream, of course, from our.
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  Our our, our, our hated Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell
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  replacing Libor with the secured overnight financing rate and
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  finally giving us control over the short end of the yield curve
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  for the first time in our fucking history since Bretton
• 20:33
  Woods. Oh, by the way, that's only a
• 20:36
  really small little fucking thing.
• 20:38
  So which I know would take another hour for me to unpack,
• 20:41
  but I've done hundreds of hours of podcasts for those of you in
• 20:43
  the audience never heard me talk about the importance of
• 20:46
  implementing. So for at the expense of Libor,
• 20:49
  I absolutely recommend that you've talked to your friends
• 20:52
  who are friends of mine. They'll point you in the right
• 20:55
  direction. I've done 1000 podcasts on this,
• 20:57
  OK? And I've convinced some of the
• 20:59
  most important people in the fucking world that I was right
• 21:01
  about this, who were all looking at the guy going, what the fuck
• 21:04
  is he talking about? And I'm like, yeah, OK, You
• 21:07
  might want to start with my interview with Daniel Dimartino
• 21:10
  Booth on my part, my podcast 3 1/2 years ago.
• 21:14
  She's on the podcast twice. You listen to both of them.
• 21:16
  It's a, it's a, that it's probably a, a good starting
• 21:19
  place for a lot of people. But what's important is that
• 21:23
  once we had control over the financial control over the
• 21:25
  dollar, then it would actually set the stage for Trump to come
• 21:27
  back to office. And so as Trump then starts the
• 21:30
  process of defunding the public money, right, get rid of the
• 21:35
  get, let's start, let's do the triage.
• 21:37
  We have to stop the bleeding. The patient is bleeding.
• 21:39
  Bleeding outlet's stop the bleeding.
• 21:41
  First thing you do is you get rid of you slow down the money
• 21:44
  going to USAID and as many of the Ng OS as possible.
• 21:47
  You put a kibosh on all of that. You start to freeze money by
• 21:51
  simply threatening to audit everybody via DOGE, right.
• 21:55
  A lot of those DOGE audit numbers, they were already had
• 21:59
  they already been done. Like, I, you know, I've, I've
• 22:01
  talked to people who, you know, who are, are close to the
• 22:05
  administration, Like they knew exactly where all the fucking
• 22:08
  fraud was. They knew where all was in
• 22:09
  2022-2023, 2024. It was waiting to come back into
• 22:13
  power. So after Trump gets shot and he
• 22:16
  realizes, I, I honestly think that that's the turning point.
• 22:19
  That's when he decided to go with JD Vance's as his VP, who
• 22:23
  is, by the way, a Marine, a killer and a vindictive prick.
• 22:28
  OK, just letting you know, OK? Same thing with Pete Hagseth.
• 22:34
  OK? And we need men like this at
• 22:36
  this point in time, because you have to counter the, the
• 22:40
  reputational kind of, you know, devouring mother fucking
• 22:45
  feminist bullshit that we have coming out of Europe and the EU
• 22:49
  and the UK. But stop the pride, the public
• 22:52
  flow of money. Then you start going after the
• 22:54
  private flow of money. What's the private flow of
• 22:56
  money? Is it my friend in Burlingame
• 22:58
  likes to talk about this stuff. And if you haven't listen to EM
• 23:00
  talk, you should, you should absolutely chat with EM about
• 23:02
  how all this, this plays out. But the way EM likes the frame,
• 23:06
  frame is just three layers of money.
• 23:07
  There's the public money, which we which we spent the first half
• 23:10
  of 2025 staunching the flow of. Then there's the private money
• 23:14
  and that's the, that's the organized crime money, right?
• 23:17
  That's the drug trafficking and the human trafficking and, and
• 23:20
  the organized crime and, and, and all of that stuff that funds
• 23:25
  the IRGC out of Iran, the funds Hezbollah, that funds trend Agua
• 23:29
  and the Chinese triads and the, and the, the Russian mobs that
• 23:33
  are living in the UK. And you know, and, and the, the,
• 23:37
  the guys that are all that were all named in the Panama Papers
• 23:41
  that are, that are running basis trade operations against the US
• 23:45
  Treasury market out of the can't run out of the Cayman Islands.
• 23:48
  All that stuff is that's the private money layer.
• 23:51
  And Trump has been attacking that directly as well.
• 23:54
  That's by the way, Venezuela was really fucking about.
• 23:57
  It wasn't about the oil. It wasn't about it was about all
• 24:00
  of that. It was about it was about
• 24:01
  setting up the US Navy right there.
• 24:05
  And that Venezuela was the linchpin to securing effectively
• 24:09
  the southern maritime border of the United States, the Gulf of
• 24:14
  America. What?
• 24:15
  And by the way, you know what Greenland's really about.
• 24:17
  And if you look at what he like, he finally negotiated for
• 24:20
  Greenland, which is exactly all he wanted.
• 24:22
  So we got exactly what he wanted, as opposed to getting
• 24:24
  the whole thing, which was he wanted to be able to put
• 24:27
  listening stations for missile defense, quote, UN quote,
• 24:30
  missile defense on the northern border Greenland.
• 24:32
  Why? Because how do you think they
• 24:36
  were smuggling all these fucking fat assholes into Minneapolis?
• 24:40
  Where do you think the lieutenants for George Soros's
• 24:43
  and Alexander Soros's, you know, ground attack against the United
• 24:47
  States is going to come from? These people are setting up.
• 24:50
  This is what I mean by Davos is not rolling over.
• 24:53
  They're doubling down on trying to start a civil war, a domestic
• 24:57
  civil war. And what Trump is doing is, is
• 25:00
  stemming the flow of not just the money that supports that
• 25:03
  network, but then also stopping now the men and material and all
• 25:07
  the smuggling routes into through Canada and through the
• 25:11
  through Mexico into the United States to bring all these guys
• 25:14
  over there. Because once the all the
• 25:16
  conflicts overseas in the Middle East and Ukraine and everywhere
• 25:19
  else, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, all of that, that are
• 25:23
  wound down on all these, all these trained fucking fighters,
• 25:27
  they're all going to be brought over here to run the operations.
• 25:33
  Like the kids who are radicalized, stupid fucking
• 25:36
  purple haired, nose ring wielding Antifa and antiphards.
• 25:41
  All right? Those guys are, they're not,
• 25:42
  they're just shock troops. They're just brown shirts.
• 25:45
  They don't matter, OK, without organization about lieutenants,
• 25:51
  that whole decentralized network of, you know how they talk about
• 25:55
  Antifa doesn't really exist. It's a, you know, it doesn't
• 25:57
  really exist. It doesn't really exist, yes.
• 25:59
  And it's, it's a decentralized network of, of, of, of terror
• 26:03
  cells ultimately. Well, they have professional
• 26:08
  leadership at every one of these places.
• 26:10
  Those are the guys that we're going after.
• 26:12
  So that has to be stopped. So you public money, then the
• 26:17
  private money, and then you, once you've got those two things
• 26:21
  shut off or at least staunched, then you can start forcing them
• 26:25
  to put their public, put their stolen money on the table.
• 26:28
  The money that they're sitting on in their castles in
• 26:30
  Luxembourg, right in their castles in South of France and
• 26:34
  everywhere else that they got stashed around the world.
• 26:36
  And banks no one's ever heard of, managed by, by bankers who
• 26:40
  don't have Wikipedia pages and those people and that money, I
• 26:47
  suspect, and I this is now speculation, it's all predicated
• 26:53
  on the physical delivery of physical silver to the financial
• 26:59
  markets because that's how they've been running.
• 27:01
  They've been getting their income streams, which is through
• 27:03
  the old British pound sterling system that requires physical
• 27:10
  silver and it's still there and that network still exists.
• 27:15
  And that's part of the reason why silver was held at such a
• 27:18
  low, demoralizingly low price for so very, very long.
• 27:24
  And that's part of the problem today.
• 27:27
  That's what, and I think that's part of the reason why we're
• 27:29
  watching this massive operation being run to Reprice Silver.
• 27:33
  And I've spoken to my friend Vince Onchi about this a number
• 27:37
  of times. You don't follow events, folks.
• 27:38
  You need to follow events. No one knows the, the, the
• 27:41
  insurance and outs of the gold and silver trading operations
• 27:47
  better than Vince Lange. And then when he and I sit down
• 27:49
  to talk and he's been on my podcast at least seven or eight
• 27:51
  times. And when you listen to Vince and
• 27:53
  I go back and forth and he, he's looking at the structure of the
• 27:56
  market. So he knows how these guys set
• 27:58
  up their trades and their long, short positions, everything
• 28:00
  else. And then you've got my, you
• 28:01
  know, admittedly, you want to call it conspiratorial mind
• 28:05
  towards geopolitics. And you put the two of them
• 28:06
  together, you see, you can see how the whole thing just like
• 28:09
  meshes together into one big, beautiful operation.
• 28:16
  And you're like, oh, right. That's why that connects to
• 28:18
  that. That's why India is acting this
• 28:20
  way. That's why the British are doing
• 28:21
  this. That's why we're doing this.
• 28:22
  And the only conclusion you can draw ultimately is that China
• 28:26
  and the United States are in the process of resting control over
• 28:30
  the pricing of all the strategic commodities of the world from
• 28:33
  City of London for themselves. And so, and that is part of the
• 28:40
  same operation to break down the three layers of money of, of,
• 28:45
  of, of illicit money that is used to prop up the globalist
• 28:49
  enterprise that we see at Davos. OK, first the public money, then
• 28:53
  the private money, then, then their stolen money.
• 28:57
  And if you attack the regime at the financialization heart,
• 29:01
  which is their ability to control the price of the
• 29:03
  collateral, that of the of on which all of the world's debts
• 29:08
  are, are are are are valued, then they have no power left
• 29:15
  because that's the source of their real power is the ability
• 29:18
  to leverage that collateral oil, gold, silver to OK, I hate to
• 29:23
  tell you folks, they are no out of Bitcoin too, or at least they
• 29:26
  did that Bitcoin. That's been why Bitcoin, I think
• 29:29
  has been been bombed back into the high 80s is because they're
• 29:32
  having to like, you know, liquidate old wallets and, and,
• 29:36
  and, and serve dollars into a, into a gyre that they can't, but
• 29:42
  they can't fill because it's a vacuum that's bigger.
• 29:44
  It's a, it's a black hole of, of obligations.
• 29:46
  That's bigger than even their asset pool.
• 29:48
  When I see things like UBS is short silver to the point where
• 29:52
  it's 200 times their cap table, I'm like, OK, I may not believe
• 29:57
  that number 200 times, but I can believe 20 and it doesn't
• 30:01
  matter. That's like nuclear.
• 30:02
  That's like having, you know, 20 * a nuclear weapons necessary to
• 30:05
  blow up the world. Once you blow up UPSUBS once,
• 30:09
  you don't, the other 19 times don't matter except for the
• 30:12
  people who are the counterparties to all of those
• 30:15
  trades. So yeah, when I sit down and I
• 30:20
  go on a rant like I did to start this thing, OK?
• 30:23
  And to breathe fire into everybody's and and breathe fire
• 30:26
  up everybody's ass. I'm doing so from a position of
• 30:30
  understanding this in a multi dimensional way.
• 30:33
  And I'm not like talking out my ass here folks.
• 30:35
  I've worked really fucking hard at this and I've done hundreds
• 30:38
  of hours to try and explain it all.
• 30:40
  But that's where comes, that's where my work has led me over
• 30:47
  the years inexcapably going this is an attack on City of London
• 30:53
  and Davos and Europe. So Trump started 2025 with that
• 30:59
  and his throughout 2025 and into 2026.
• 31:02
  Now he is executing on that three layered strategy.
• 31:06
  Stop their private, stop the public money, stop the private
• 31:09
  money forced them to put their money on the table.
• 31:12
  And we're beginning to see them having to put their own money on
• 31:15
  the table. That's what we're beginning to
• 31:18
  see. But that's, you know, where I
• 31:22
  think we are in that part of it. Their response to that, of
• 31:25
  course, is to touch off and light off, you know, open an
• 31:29
  armed insurrection against the federal government in the United
• 31:33
  States at the state level. Obviously, they want to send the
• 31:38
  states, the blue state governors, into open
• 31:40
  insurrection. And they're trying to dare Trump
• 31:43
  into using the Insurrection Act too early to turn him into
• 31:47
  orange Lincoln. And so far, he's resisted that
• 31:52
  because he doesn't need to do, because he knows he doesn't
• 31:54
  actually need to do. So it's not a repeat of 2020
• 31:57
  where he didn't use the Insurrection Act to his
• 32:01
  detriment there. I think he was actually honestly
• 32:03
  frozen here. I think it's different.
• 32:05
  I think he understands that he is far more prepared for this
• 32:10
  than he was in the past. Because what I really do believe
• 32:13
  is that they understand the parameter of the problem and
• 32:16
  such. And because they understand the
• 32:18
  parameters of the problem, they're actually pushing the
• 32:20
  pace not only in the international stage, but on the
• 32:22
  domestic stage as well. Minnesota was an easy target.
• 32:27
  OK, let's let's. And what do I mean by that?
• 32:33
  When you when you go back to Nick Shirley in the viral video
• 32:39
  of Quality Leering Center and you know, you know all of that.
• 32:45
  Did anybody with three brain cells rub together to make a
• 32:47
  spark believe that Nick Shirley like did this investigative
• 32:52
  journalism on his own? I didn't.
• 32:55
  I don't think anybody did. But that doesn't mean it's not
• 32:58
  that he wasn't what he was uncovering wasn't true.
• 33:01
  Because 48 hours after that video went live, Kosh Patel
• 33:05
  comes out and says, well, yeah, we've been in Minnesota since
• 33:07
  July investigating all this stuff.
• 33:08
  I'm like, oh, OK, I can put one to one together.
• 33:10
  You get 2, by the way, or three in this case, right?
• 33:14
  Like Patel and company in the FBI have been in there doing all
• 33:17
  this work. And Scott Besson's been in, you
• 33:19
  know, at Treasury have been mapping all the, the, the money
• 33:22
  flows and mapping all the, the, the, the, the money.
• 33:28
  Tom Homans talked about this explicitly in the aftermath of
• 33:32
  the LA riots back last January and then to June.
• 33:37
  So let's put all that together. And they go, oh, so they've been
• 33:39
  in Minneapolis. They know what's going on.
• 33:42
  And then they just handed it to Nick Sterling.
• 33:44
  And you go, come on, go do the thing, boy.
• 33:46
  And then we'll just amplify it on Twitter.
• 33:48
  That's what they did. And then that sets the that sets
• 33:51
  that sets off a chain of events that are, you know, complete are
• 33:56
  completely predictable because remember, every day is opposite
• 34:00
  day in Trump 2 point O America, whatever Trump does, they're
• 34:03
  going to take the opposite side of whatever Trump says, they're
• 34:06
  going to take the opposite side of and they're going to amplify
• 34:08
  it into oblivion. I want Greenland.
• 34:11
  Donald Trump is going to invade Greenland.
• 34:13
  No, I want Greenland. And then they create some false,
• 34:18
  you know, goal on his on his end.
• 34:22
  Like, no, I mean, he's willing to like he's willing to play
• 34:25
  their game, but he doesn't care. He doesn't need to put troops in
• 34:27
  Greenland if he doesn't need to like come up with a negotiated
• 34:31
  settlement. So but every day is opposite
• 34:33
  day. So you go into Minneapolis and
• 34:36
  you say, well, you've been stealing money left and right.
• 34:38
  Well, all these fake daycare centers are.
• 34:39
  No, we haven't. Yeah, you have.
• 34:42
  We have. You know, And then every day you
• 34:44
  just drip, drip, drip Andrew Breitbart like out a James
• 34:47
  O'Keefe, like all the, all the, all the information.
• 34:50
  And eventually it sets in motion a series of escalatory moves on
• 34:55
  their part. They either have to put their
• 34:57
  army on the ground and go for the gold now and go for the win
• 35:03
  now when they're not ready or dismantle the entire tire
• 35:09
  operation like so. That's what they're doing.
• 35:16
  That's why they attacked the money laundering operations and
• 35:19
  a literal dry cleaner in LA last, you know, early last year
• 35:24
  on purpose. They went in there on purpose to
• 35:27
  gauge what the response would be.
• 35:29
  What was the response? Alexander Soros and and Gavin
• 35:32
  Gruesome call up a rent the beaner mob and turn the whole
• 35:35
  thing into a into a race riot and try and Jennifer race riot.
• 35:39
  What's Trump's next reaction? Within 4 within 24 hours, he
• 35:42
  nationalizes the the the California Guard and within two
• 35:45
  days he sends in the Marines and cleans the whole thing up.
• 35:49
  That was a trial run on everybody's part to see what
• 35:52
  everybody's reaction would be. They tested Trump, Trump tested
• 35:57
  them in return, and then we didn't see any more violence in
• 36:00
  LA for the rest of the year. So that model has is is already
• 36:08
  played itself out and it played itself out in the same way that,
• 36:11
  and he did the same thing. And on the world stage, he gave
• 36:14
  Israel and Iran the war they both said they wanted.
• 36:17
  Fine, beat the crap out of each other.
• 36:19
  I'll protect the Israelis. The the Russians may or may not
• 36:22
  protect the Iranians. Hold Netanyahu on a leash to
• 36:25
  just go after military targets, which is what he did.
• 36:30
  Don't go for regime change unless I tell you to.
• 36:34
  Hominy didn't didn't overreact. The IRGC got wiped out for now,
• 36:40
  got bought, got bound back to the Stone Age, and the Mossad
• 36:43
  headquarters got hit in Tel Aviv and everybody got their got
• 36:46
  their hair mussed and their nose bloodied and they went, oh shit,
• 36:50
  war sucks. Maybe we shouldn't do this.
• 36:53
  Yeah, maybe you shouldn't do this.
• 36:55
  Now let's cut a peace deal over Gaza.
• 36:57
  And now let's start rebuilding the world.
• 36:59
  Can't get the Ukrainians to accept that yet.
• 37:03
  One day, hopefully. But Greenland first, Canada
• 37:07
  next. Maybe we'll get Ukraine
• 37:09
  finished. OK, amazing.
• 37:11
  Love it, love it. OK guys, I do have to hit an ad
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• 37:17
  to the past to now potentially what you're watching and where
• 37:21
  we're going in the future. And I think I'm, I'm just going
• 37:24
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  So we caught up to the present moment.
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  Now from here, what are you watching and where do you think
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  the future? Like what do you think the
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  future holds for us? Where do you think we're going
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  from this moment on and and what should the audience be paying
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  attention to? Sure.
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  What we're, what we're headed for in the near future is that
• 40:03
  is the strike back from Davos, right?
• 40:04
  What we're expecting from them at this point is what I laid out
• 40:09
  that they're going to now have to try and push certain states
• 40:14
  in their insurrection. I want, if you think I'm crazy
• 40:16
  about this, I want you to go and look at what the Virginia
• 40:20
  Legislature, the slate of bills that the Virginia Legislature
• 40:24
  just put on the table. OK, with their crazy governor
• 40:29
  spam burger, with their super majority in both houses at the
• 40:32
  state level, with their control of the federal courts and, you
• 40:36
  know, and, and all of that, they're literally putting
• 40:38
  forward a Group AAA series of bills that will destroy the
• 40:43
  state. OK, now this is in the same
• 40:45
  state that houses both Langley and Quantico.
• 40:48
  So, you know, imagine that that's not going to go very far.
• 40:52
  But the the point of doing that in a place like Virginia is to
• 40:56
  throw it into open revolt to nullify the federal government
• 41:02
  and knowing full well that it'll take 20 years to undo what they
• 41:06
  do in an hour worth of legislative vandalism, right,
• 41:10
  because of the way our legal system works.
• 41:12
  So they're using temp, they're using legal tempo to their
• 41:16
  advantage. We have a problem in that
• 41:18
  respect. And I think at some point you're
• 41:21
  going to have to watch Trump just say that's enough, OK?
• 41:25
  And at some point, he is going to have to try these people
• 41:28
  under the court, under the UCMJ. And the reason is because we've
• 41:34
  got a Congress that's, you know, completely and utterly incapable
• 41:39
  or unwilling to do even their basic job.
• 41:43
  Like, look, when we have 19, count them 19 out of 92 district
• 41:51
  attorneys operating at this moment.
• 41:54
  And there's a reason for that. And that's because the Democrats
• 41:56
  will not through the blue slip will not approve anybody that
• 42:00
  Trump nominates. They only want their people.
• 42:03
  And the blue slip process is, was never meant as a a complete
• 42:09
  check on presidential power. It was meant to help the
• 42:12
  president in times, you know, when it's an 18th century rule,
• 42:16
  it's a 19th century rule for a 21st century situation, Simply
• 42:21
  put. And it needs to be gotten rid
• 42:22
  of. Same thing with the filibuster.
• 42:25
  At this point, the filibuster needs to go away.
• 42:27
  These guys need to stop. They need to stop, you know,
• 42:31
  biting the pillow over the over the fucking Senate rules they're
• 42:34
  doing. They're refusing to do this for
• 42:36
  two reasons. One, because they're clearly
• 42:39
  many of them are clearly corrupt.
• 42:40
  And I would put Chuck Grassley at that, in that in in that
• 42:46
  category. And others are worried about the
• 42:50
  actual separation of powers. They're thinking, Oh my God, the
• 42:53
  legislature itself is not fit for purpose in this 21st century
• 42:57
  model because of the way the rules were set up for our, our,
• 43:03
  our constantly, our legislature constitutionally were designed
• 43:06
  around 18th century time frames, right?
• 43:09
  Where the speed of information that moves these, you know, in
• 43:15
  18th century speeds, there's nothing compared to 21st century
• 43:17
  speed. So we have a lot of
• 43:19
  anachronistic rules and ideas and they're very, I just feel
• 43:22
  that they're worried about that. How what, how do we actually
• 43:26
  perform our job? So they're worried about that
• 43:28
  from that level, that's fine. None of that matters.
• 43:31
  They have the power, if they were to do what they need to do,
• 43:36
  which is get rid of the filibuster, pass through
• 43:38
  everything that needs to pass, including sweeping reform of the
• 43:44
  tax code, healthcare, this, that, everything else, voter
• 43:49
  reform and every and all of it. Then they can just turn right
• 43:51
  around and go, well, you know, we took the filibuster away
• 43:54
  with, you know, we can always just put it back in.
• 43:57
  If we're, you know, right before the election, we can take this
• 43:59
  power, do what needs to be done. You know, we don't have we don't
• 44:05
  have reasonable people on Capitol Hill.
• 44:07
  Nobody is trying to coalition build on Capitol Hill.
• 44:10
  Everybody is ossified into red versus blue.
• 44:14
  And our system was not designed for an ossification of red
• 44:17
  versus blue. It was isn't it was never
• 44:20
  designed for it. So that's why these things need
• 44:27
  to happen. And if we can't get through
• 44:29
  that, then Trump is going to have to go to the military.
• 44:31
  But he can't go to the military until we get to a point where 80
• 44:34
  to 85% of the country is like, OK, that's enough.
• 44:38
  This is beyond the pale. No, we're not going to, you
• 44:41
  know, we're not going to live like fucking animals because,
• 44:43
  you know, a bunch of shit, Lib, you're toxically empathetic.
• 44:49
  Females in fucking Virginia think that that's the way we
• 44:53
  should run the country because they don't like God damn Donald
• 44:56
  Trump. Like, fuck off.
• 44:58
  We're not living like that. Like, how about you come
• 45:01
  together for the big win and we just get this over and done
• 45:03
  with. So we're going to have to go
• 45:05
  through a period where we're going to have to accept, sadly,
• 45:08
  we're going to have to accept. And I don't like this any more
• 45:11
  than anybody else does. But we have to realize that a
• 45:14
  certain point, we have these structures in place, We have
• 45:19
  these these these options available to us because our
• 45:23
  system was designed for a a less ossified and it's the best word.
• 45:35
  I'm looking for intransigent situation between parties.
• 45:39
  We have people who literally are in power who want to destroy the
• 45:43
  United States. We have people in power who
• 45:46
  literally want to save the United States.
• 45:48
  They are not going to agree on anything in the middle.
• 45:51
  The only way out of that is war. Now we can do that war however
• 45:56
  you want. We can frame that war in
• 45:58
  whatever way we want. We can fight it at the
• 46:00
  legislative level. We can fight it at the judicial
• 46:02
  level. We, which is what Trump has
• 46:03
  tried to do so far, fight it legislatively, fight it
• 46:06
  judicially, try to in to instill confidence in the existing
• 46:13
  institutions so that we as a society don't lose complete
• 46:19
  faith in those institutions, that they can be rebuilt in our
• 46:21
  minds. They may have to be modified.
• 46:22
  They may have to, we have to rethink them.
• 46:24
  We have to be, we have may have to be more vigilant with them,
• 46:27
  but they can be saved or we can go to freaking unrestrained
• 46:32
  warfare. And like that's where we have to
• 46:35
  be in our, in, in our, our, our thinking on this.
• 46:38
  And I hate to, you know, I hate to be the bearer of bad news,
• 46:43
  but that's where we are. It's a war, folks.
• 46:46
  That's the way Davos is treating it.
• 46:47
  That's the way Alexander Soros is treating it.
• 46:50
  That's the way Gavin fucking Gruesome is treating.
• 46:52
  It's the way tampon Tim Waltz is treating.
• 46:54
  It's the way fucking Kamala Harris's knee pads Kamala is
• 46:58
  treating it. That's the way all of us and we
• 47:00
  and we need to take them at their word and none of and, and
• 47:03
  and that's we just like get over the fact that we can't stoop to
• 47:07
  their level. What we're we're not allowed to
• 47:09
  fight a war. We have to just take it because
• 47:12
  they're uncivilized and we want to think of ourselves as
• 47:15
  civilized. Fuck you.
• 47:15
  These people all hate us anyway. They hate, they hate American
• 47:19
  cowboy culture. They hate everything about what
• 47:21
  America is because at the end of the day, these people love
• 47:25
  fucking bed wetting, goddamn pillow biting fucking European
• 47:28
  fags like fuck this bullshit. Sorry, no, we like guns, we like
• 47:36
  beer and we like steak gun and we're going to raise cows and
• 47:43
  we're not going to eat bugs. Fuck off.
• 47:45
  We're the we are the Europeans who left.
• 47:48
  We have to embrace that. I'm second generation Italian
• 47:52
  immigrant. I've said this told the story
• 47:53
  1000 times. I'm the youngest of four of the
• 47:56
  youngest of 11. My all of my grandparents came
• 47:58
  over on the boat to flee fascism.
• 48:01
  I only know how to swear an Italian because we didn't speak
• 48:03
  Italian in my household. My father couldn't speak Italian
• 48:10
  and three of his brothers died young from coping after fighting
• 48:16
  in World War 21. Of whom was the forward observer
• 48:19
  for Patents 3rd Army. These men are were heroes.
• 48:26
  Yeah, and big trucks. We love big trucks too.
• 48:29
  Yeah, because America's big. Like fucking Europeans want us
• 48:32
  to run around. Want us to drive across the
• 48:33
  United States in a Fiat 500? How about no, I'm going to drive
• 48:36
  around on the I I drive the couch to work every morning
• 48:39
  because I'm an American. Fuck, Just fuck these people
• 48:46
  like it's over. Let's go out there and let's be
• 48:50
  brilliant and let's be daring and let's let men be men.
• 48:57
  They hate that, Sorry, but that's what we have to do.
• 49:03
  Incredible, Tom. The the audience is loving this.
• 49:06
  I do have to play another commercial break, Tom, but of
• 49:10
  course you have the Gold Goats and Guns podcast.
• 49:13
  So I do want to reel in a little bit of economics.
• 49:16
  What's going on with gold. Obviously, I think my audience
• 49:20
  isn't too familiar with your City of London thesis, so I
• 49:24
  would love to dive into that as well.
• 49:26
  So that's what we'll do after this commercial break, guys.
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  Simply, Tom, let's start with the City of London.
• 52:07
  I know for you, anyone that listens to you, it's one of the
• 52:10
  pivotal ideas of where all of your kind of world views come
• 52:14
  from. It's where the whole Trump
• 52:17
  battle comes from. This is why you said what you
• 52:19
  said in the beginning of the show.
• 52:21
  But for my audience, I don't think they're too familiar with
• 52:24
  your work. So could you do you know what?
• 52:27
  Why is the City of London so important to you?
• 52:30
  And why is this the central, I don't know, root cause of
• 52:33
  everything that we're seeing going on in the world?
• 52:35
  Well, it's, it's not the root cause, but it's one of them.
• 52:37
  It's, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's the central hub
• 52:41
  through which all of this flows through.
• 52:44
  Let's just start from the beginning.
• 52:47
  All right, Let's just, you know, where did it's actually, I don't
• 52:51
  even know if I can do it quickly enough, but I'll do my very,
• 52:54
  very best. I, I will go back to what I
• 52:56
  said, some of the things I said earlier.
• 52:59
  Let's ask a very simple question.
• 53:02
  When you look at Commodity Futures markets, gold, silver,
• 53:06
  aluminum, nickel, oil, natural gas, copper, all of it, it all
• 53:11
  flows in many ways through City of London, right?
• 53:14
  The London futures markets, the LBMA and the LMA, well, the
• 53:18
  London Bullion Market Association and the London
• 53:20
  Metals Exchange operate some of the most, you know, they, they
• 53:25
  operate some of the most important and liquid Commodity
• 53:29
  Futures Trading platforms in the world.
• 53:32
  Yes, we have the COMEX here in the United States and there are
• 53:34
  others in Dubai and Shanghai and whatnot, but understand that
• 53:37
  London is the, the, that's what London primarily does at this
• 53:44
  point. To be honest, with the City of
• 53:46
  London, there's like 1/3 of EU KS GDP and the British pound
• 53:51
  still settles 30% of all forex transactions in the world.
• 53:54
  So that means when you change, you know, Canadian dollars into,
• 53:57
  you know, Thai baht, I got news for you goes to the, the, the
• 54:00
  British pound, right. So ask me again why I think
• 54:05
  that, you know, ripples a thing that is necessary going forward.
• 54:10
  And I, I hate the I'm I'm doing this to actually tweak the
• 54:12
  bitcoiners in the audience to understand they need them to
• 54:14
  underneath them to understand that everything needs a
• 54:16
  liquidity token at certain level to do the third party
• 54:19
  transaction from one currency into another, because we're not
• 54:22
  going to be all just trading in Bitcoin in the future.
• 54:25
  That's not happening. We're going to have tokenized
• 54:27
  all, we're going to have a lot of tokenized things happening
• 54:29
  and then the systems are not going to be universal and
• 54:32
  there's going to be a lot of competing systems out there over
• 54:34
  the course of the next 5-10 years.
• 54:36
  And so we'll be Bitcoin based. So we Ripple base, we dollar
• 54:39
  base, like it's going to be out there.
• 54:41
  It's going to all, all a mess. But what's important is that we
• 54:44
  take that power away from the British, OK, when the City of
• 54:49
  London was able to get that power because they were the
• 54:54
  dominant, you know, Europe and, and, and the UK were the
• 54:58
  dominant industrial centers of the 17th and 18th and 19th
• 55:01
  centuries made perfect sense. Britain was the dominant
• 55:04
  maritime power patrolling the sea routes and, and everything
• 55:07
  else and, and the guaranteed tours of global trade, right?
• 55:12
  Well, that system started to fail.
• 55:14
  We wound up with World War One, World War 2, and then after
• 55:16
  Bretton Woods we fought World War 2 and Britain after
• 55:22
  potentially killing FDR. That's up to the debate, but instituted
• 55:28
  Bretton Woods, which created an financial extension of the
• 55:31
  British Empire where America was given control over the world
• 55:34
  nominally. But really the Brits had
• 55:36
  financial control behind the scenes because the Marshall Plan
• 55:39
  and Bretton Woods and everything else built up an offshore dollar
• 55:42
  system that was 100 times bigger than the domestic dollar system.
• 55:46
  So at the end of the day, while the Federal Reserve attempts to
• 55:49
  regulate the domestic economy through monetary policy, the
• 55:52
  problem is that when you have an offshore dollar market that is
• 55:56
  orders of magnitude larger and a forex market that's orders of
• 55:59
  large magnitude larger than the domestic dollar markets, the Fed
• 56:04
  is actually subordinate to the to the rest of the world, right?
• 56:11
  With the dollar being the, the quote UN quote global reserve
• 56:14
  currency. It's both an an exorbitant
• 56:17
  privilege and an exorbitant burden, especially if we don't
• 56:21
  control the pricing of those dollars And all for many, many
• 56:25
  years up until 2022, those dollars were priced in Libor,
• 56:30
  the London interbank offered rate.
• 56:31
  Now when you look at the light, when you look at Libor, it was
• 56:33
  18 banks, 17 of which were centered in London and the 18th
• 56:37
  1 was JP Morgan's London office. So the City of London had
• 56:41
  control over the pricing ultimately of dollars around the
• 56:45
  world. And our monetary policy was
• 56:47
  subordinate to the needs of the offshore dollar markets.
• 56:51
  It's what created the offshore banking centers in the British
• 56:54
  Virgin Islands, the Caymans, Bermuda, the Bahamas and the
• 56:56
  rest of it. This is, you know, St.
• 56:58
  Ives, Saint Kitts, all that. I mean, all of that stuff is
• 57:01
  all, all those British offshore haven money havens were all
• 57:06
  built in the last, you know, you know, since World War 2.
• 57:12
  And that's where they parked all their freaking money.
• 57:14
  And so they have control over and they had control over the
• 57:19
  legacy, control over the pricing therefore, of not just dollars,
• 57:23
  but then oil, gold, silver, aluminum, copper, nickel, all of
• 57:29
  it, lead, Tungfy, all of it. So that doesn't fit in the 21st
• 57:37
  century model where the two dominant industrial powers are
• 57:40
  the United States in China. Britain doesn't produce anything
• 57:45
  any, any more anything anymore other than bad BBC television
• 57:49
  and fucking angst. They have to even import like,
• 57:52
  decent food. They have to import Indians to
• 57:54
  get decent food, for Christ's sake.
• 57:56
  Like so they don't produce anything other than regular
• 58:00
  regulations, angst and, you know, opprobrium, right?
• 58:05
  And media and they and they control the financial press,
• 58:07
  they control most of our media. Like, and so you understand
• 58:11
  things from that perspective. This is the shadow government
• 58:13
  that never the shadow empire that never failed, that never
• 58:16
  went away, right? They still own Canada, they
• 58:19
  still own Australia, they still own the countries of the
• 58:22
  Commonwealth. They still have like they're,
• 58:24
  they still have deep ties in the United States as well, OK.
• 58:27
  And so, you know, the, our intelligence services are all
• 58:32
  subordinated to MI 6 Like it's, it's, it's all a mess, folks.
• 58:37
  And every time we take the we or Israel or this one or that,
• 58:43
  everybody else gets blamed for all the world's problems.
• 58:46
  The Russians, us, Israel, doesn't matter, Iran, everybody
• 58:49
  else. No one ever blames the Brits.
• 58:51
  You know why? Because they're the ones
• 58:53
  actually controlling the narrative around what's actually
• 58:57
  happening. They're the ones that control
• 58:59
  the information that makes it into the hands of the
• 59:02
  President's Daily Brief and everything else that's gone on
• 59:05
  for decades. And for a long time, we had
• 59:08
  American oligarchs who were more than happy to go along with all
• 59:10
  of this. We had American financiers on
• 59:12
  Wall Street. We had MIC.
• 59:13
  We had MIC contractors out in California, you know, we had old
• 59:17
  oligarchs in the sand, industrial oligarchs or sorry,
• 59:20
  agricultural oligarchs in the South and in the Midwest happy
• 59:23
  to go along with all this bullshit.
• 59:24
  So, you know, and everybody was getting paid as the dollar was
• 59:28
  going out into the world. That all changed with the with
• 59:31
  the transformation from my board of SOFR back in 2022.
• 59:34
  And you can thank Jerome Powell for it.
• 59:35
  No matter how much everybody in the audience fucking hates
• 59:38
  Jerome Powell. I love Powell, by the way.
• 59:40
  I think Powell's brilliant because Powell doesn't.
• 59:43
  Powell sets the stage for Trump by getting control over our
• 59:47
  monetary policy through SOFA, raising interest rates to the
• 59:50
  high heavens and destroying the leverage in the euro in the
• 59:53
  offshore euro dollar markets through the years 2022 through
• 59:57
  2024, which ultimately is what brought the downfall of the
• 1:00:00
  Biden Hunter. Without Powell, there is no they
• 1:00:05
  just spend us into a fucking Bolivian and by the goddamned
• 1:00:08
  election. In 2024, OK, And the country's
• 1:00:12
  already an open freaking civil war.
• 1:00:14
  Now, if you're, you know, a typical shit bag libertarian
• 1:00:17
  chuckling, colloxitarian, you think that's a better outcome
• 1:00:20
  than what we're going to fight through today?
• 1:00:21
  I tell you, I don't, that's not the world I want to live in.
• 1:00:24
  I'm sorry. I have, I have children.
• 1:00:26
  I don't want to live in that world.
• 1:00:27
  So, so the what's happening now and what Trump is doing, and I
• 1:00:35
  think one of the few things that Trump and G really do agree on
• 1:00:38
  is that one that can no longer be in control of the pricing
• 1:00:41
  mechanism of the world's collateral of the oil, the gold,
• 1:00:44
  the silver and everything else. So starting in going, let's got
• 1:00:48
  to go back to last year. Going back to last year, what
• 1:00:50
  happened in gold. Gold started accelerating to the
• 1:00:54
  upside as the United States was weakening the dollar and buying
• 1:00:57
  gold. OK, that's what we were doing
• 1:00:59
  now. It wasn't showing up on our
• 1:01:01
  official balance sheets. It wasn't showing up, as you
• 1:01:03
  know, on the Treasury's balance sheet.
• 1:01:04
  It was showing up on the balance sheet of GLD.
• 1:01:06
  It was showing up on the balance sheets of the banks and
• 1:01:08
  everywhere else. And everybody was pulling
• 1:01:10
  delivery from London into the Comex and, and, and then putting
• 1:01:13
  it aside, same thing started happening in silver later in the
• 1:01:16
  year. This becomes a very complicated
• 1:01:20
  conversation about, you know, how Japan builds into this and
• 1:01:23
  everything else. But I'm going to try and keep it
• 1:01:25
  as simple, straightforward as possible.
• 1:01:27
  The goal here is to break the London Buoyant Market
• 1:01:29
  Association by getting control over the supply chain of
• 1:01:32
  physical gold and silver. You do that, you can then start
• 1:01:36
  attacking copper, which is in process, nickel, aluminum and
• 1:01:39
  everything else. And you can move the trading by
• 1:01:42
  by because what you're the goal is what you're trying to do is
• 1:01:45
  you're trying to invalidate the exchange, right?
• 1:01:48
  You're trying to destroy the ability of anybody to trust that
• 1:01:52
  the exchange will actually one, give you a valid pricing model
• 1:01:57
  for the thing that you want to price.
• 1:01:58
  And you want to you need to, you know, hedge your production with
• 1:02:02
  or, you know, hedge your currency risk with or whatever.
• 1:02:05
  At the same time, you also have to expose them for running a
• 1:02:10
  Ponzi scheme, which is what they've done and they've done
• 1:02:13
  every bit of that. So now you take that I you take
• 1:02:20
  that idea and you apply it first to gold, then the silver, and
• 1:02:24
  now the next thing to tell kills copper.
• 1:02:26
  And you take all that pricing over, Dwight.
• 1:02:28
  Because why should the 19th century industrial power control
• 1:02:33
  the pricing mechanism of the industrial commodities in the
• 1:02:37
  21st century should not go to the people who are the
• 1:02:40
  industrial powers of the 21st century.
• 1:02:43
  And this is what China in the United States agree about.
• 1:02:45
  That's why we're watching China and the United States.
• 1:02:51
  This again goes back to my the work of my friend Bin Solange,
• 1:02:54
  who I'm dead serious. If you are a Bitcoin guy and you
• 1:02:57
  do not understand the structure of the way gold and silver
• 1:03:00
  trade, you are not a Bitcoiner. I'm more of a Bitcoiner than
• 1:03:03
  most of you people because I understand how it all slots in
• 1:03:06
  to everybody's major strategies going forward, how we're going
• 1:03:14
  to recapitalize the fucking world.
• 1:03:16
  And I've been saying this for three or four years now, that
• 1:03:19
  literally Bitcoin is going to be used to recapitalize the world
• 1:03:23
  and re collateralize the world. Bitcoin, gold, silver, all of
• 1:03:26
  it. But the goal is to take pricing
• 1:03:29
  leverage away from London over oil.
• 1:03:33
  That's the real goal because what does the world really run
• 1:03:37
  on? Does it run on Bitcoin?
• 1:03:39
  No. Does it run on gold?
• 1:03:40
  No. Does it run on silver?
• 1:03:42
  No. All of these things are
• 1:03:43
  tokenized energy. Every bit of it.
• 1:03:49
  What is gold? Gold is tokenized energy.
• 1:03:52
  What is silver tokenized energy? What's aluminum congealed
• 1:03:55
  energy? And what is Bitcoin?
• 1:03:59
  It's literally tokenized energy. So.
• 1:04:03
  And what are we? But if not walking, talking,
• 1:04:07
  tokenized energy. So you have to put all that
• 1:04:10
  together at the same time to understand that once you see it
• 1:04:16
  that way, that's what they're stealing from you.
• 1:04:19
  They're stealing your time, they're stealing your money, and
• 1:04:23
  they're trying to steal the value of the collateral so that
• 1:04:27
  they pull a vig off of that collateral.
• 1:04:31
  That is ultimately your profit. And so that has to be put in the
• 1:04:37
  hands of people who believe in sovereignty.
• 1:04:43
  And that's what I think Donald Trump is doing.
• 1:04:45
  That's what I know Scott Percent believes in.
• 1:04:47
  And that's what I think people like Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin,
• 1:04:52
  Viktor Orban, to even to a lesser extent, George Maloney in
• 1:04:55
  Italy. There are certain people in this
• 1:04:56
  world who understand that fundamental idea.
• 1:04:59
  And then there's Davos and there's the City of London.
• 1:05:02
  There's the Club of Rome or the Rothschilds of the Jews or
• 1:05:05
  whatever the hell you want. Like at the end of the day,
• 1:05:07
  that's the way you have to think about this.
• 1:05:09
  You have to get this that this down to brass tacks and the
• 1:05:12
  fundamentals. And the truth of the matter is
• 1:05:14
  that these people kept control over the value of the pricing
• 1:05:20
  mechanism, the pricing leverage of these commodities to their
• 1:05:24
  advantage. You don't believe me?
• 1:05:27
  Go look at go re go find it and recreate.
• 1:05:31
  It's hard to do. By the way, I did this this
• 1:05:33
  weekend. Go find the American gold
• 1:05:38
  reserves in ounces from 1940 backwards from 1940 forwards,
• 1:05:44
  right? So from 1940 you can find this
• 1:05:46
  information. There's a World Gold Council
• 1:05:47
  paper out there. I'll tell everybody to go look
• 1:05:49
  for it. It's very hard to find by the
• 1:05:51
  way, but you can find it. If you look for it, you'll find
• 1:05:54
  it's like the only like single stop source of this information
• 1:05:58
  and you'll see what I'm talking about.
• 1:05:59
  And all during the Bretton Woods era up until 1971, all you saw
• 1:06:05
  was a massive drain of the of, of America's real wealth in
• 1:06:09
  terms of Oz of gold steadily. Hell, by the time these people
• 1:06:13
  shot fucking Kennedy in 63, it was already well under.
• 1:06:19
  It was already well it under and in process by 1963.
• 1:06:23
  And by the time the London Gold Pool fell in 1968.
• 1:06:26
  And then eventually Nixon closes the gold window in 1971.
• 1:06:29
  He did it to defend the United States because, you know, these
• 1:06:33
  fucking Europeans were stealing it all from us, by the way.
• 1:06:38
  So yeah, I know you guys can't, you like guys can't get out of
• 1:06:43
  your, your, your, you guys cannot get out of your ship coin
• 1:06:46
  versus Bitcoin. Or I'm reading the chat and it's
• 1:06:48
  like, you guys are literally so 2015.
• 1:06:51
  It's not God damn funny. And I, I need you to, I need you
• 1:06:54
  to level up. If you, if you look, if you, you
• 1:06:56
  know, you're going to, you know, the sad, sad part about it is
• 1:06:58
  about, but most Bitcoin maxes at this point is that you're all
• 1:07:01
  going to make a fabulous amount of money for all the wrong
• 1:07:03
  fucking reasons. So that's fine.
• 1:07:08
  I don't care. Single gold bugs.
• 1:07:09
  I say the same thing with gold bugs all the time, by the way,
• 1:07:12
  And I love both, but for different reasons.
• 1:07:16
  So, you know, I, I like being salty.
• 1:07:19
  It's fun if you, if you, if you all, if you all are going to
• 1:07:22
  call me a shit coiner like me of all people to call me a shit
• 1:07:25
  coiner. I just give it back with both
• 1:07:26
  barrels. By the way, I'm not a Bitcoin
• 1:07:28
  maxi because I'm not a religious fundamentalist in any way,
• 1:07:31
  manner, shape or form. I don't believe that technology
• 1:07:34
  ends. I don't believe that Bitcoin is
• 1:07:35
  the end of money monetary technology.
• 1:07:37
  I do believe in decentralization and I do believe in all of the
• 1:07:42
  things that made Bitcoin that that makes Bitcoin a beautiful
• 1:07:46
  thing, but I don't believe it's the end all in the elephant of
• 1:07:49
  everything. There's if I do, then I have to
• 1:07:51
  believe in the end of history. I have to believe in the end of
• 1:07:53
  human intelligence. I have to believe the the end of
• 1:07:55
  human innovation. And I think that's just dumb.
• 1:07:58
  Like, I'm sorry, but gold bugs couldn't understand Bitcoin in
• 1:08:01
  2010. Why should Bitcoiners understand
• 1:08:03
  whatever comes next in 2050 or 2030 or 2070?
• 1:08:07
  I don't know, right. What happens the day that, you
• 1:08:10
  know, we have to come up with something better.
• 1:08:12
  So all right, I don't know. I've been, I get to the guys who
• 1:08:18
  say, well, you're just playing around, that's fine.
• 1:08:19
  It's great. But dude I have literally been
• 1:08:21
  like shit on by every Bitcoin universe multiple times.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah, well, Tom, they, they also shit on me every day and then
• 1:08:28
  they show up every day. So, you know, I, I think they, I
• 1:08:31
  think they are. Kind of oh, I brought up ripple.
• 1:08:32
  That makes me I love dude. I know I'm saying ripple is
• 1:08:35
  good, bad or indifferent. It's just it is like you knew,
• 1:08:38
  you know to be. It's like it's like, look,
• 1:08:40
  people, I I know bitcoiners who literally think gold is a shit
• 1:08:43
  coin and I'm like, really, what is wrong with you?
• 1:08:48
  Like what are you nuts? They're complimentary assets.
• 1:08:54
  Gold's lack of divisibility makes it fundamental.
• 1:08:58
  It's ability, it's hard being able to having it be hard to
• 1:09:02
  move is an asset. It's a different product.
• 1:09:07
  It serves a different type of purpose.
• 1:09:09
  It serves a different type of of collateral.
• 1:09:11
  And I need everybody in the audience to stop being sparky
• 1:09:15
  and black and white about everything and start being, I
• 1:09:18
  know it's hard for sparks. Like, I get it, but you know, be
• 1:09:23
  a little flexible. Love it, love it.
• 1:09:26
  All right, Tom, I did tell you I do have one more commercial
• 1:09:29
  break. But before I do that, 'cause I
• 1:09:31
  do want to pivot after this combo.
• 1:09:33
  I did bring up the idea of is Trump versus Jerome Powell
• 1:09:38
  theater or what's going on with the battle between the Treasury
• 1:09:42
  and the Fed right now? It's very important.
• 1:09:45
  Look, I think that that I've said this before now and we'll
• 1:09:48
  continue to say it from the moment Trump started going after
• 1:09:51
  Powell, I'm like, he may not like Powell personally, and
• 1:09:54
  maybe that's true. Every time I listen to Trump
• 1:09:57
  talk, I'm like he really doesn't like Powell for a variety of
• 1:10:00
  reasons. I also think that Powell has
• 1:10:04
  done yeoman's work in order to get Trump elected.
• 1:10:07
  By the way, if Trump, if Powell didn't want Trump re elected,
• 1:10:10
  Powell would have been cutting rates in March of 2024 and not
• 1:10:13
  September of 2024. But Trump needs the Federal
• 1:10:17
  Reserve torn apart. He needs it reformed and
• 1:10:22
  rebuilt, right? He's made it a central policy
• 1:10:27
  plank on his desire to get rid of all the corruption, fraud,
• 1:10:32
  waste and abuse within the American government.
• 1:10:34
  And the Fed is part of that narrative that he's building.
• 1:10:38
  But you know, everything I just said about SOFR, Libor, the
• 1:10:42
  pricing of dollars, everything else from a finance perspective
• 1:10:47
  is very, very clear that what Powell did was was heroic right
• 1:10:51
  during the Biden hunter. But now he's at the end of his
• 1:10:58
  term. Trump is setting up for the next
• 1:11:00
  term. He wants a Fed chair that's
• 1:11:01
  going to do what he wants. Trump wants lower interest
• 1:11:03
  rates. Trump is right in this respect
• 1:11:06
  to want lower interest rates because of those changes to the
• 1:11:10
  structure of our economy that are coming now.
• 1:11:13
  You can criticize Powell for being an old Keynesian or
• 1:11:16
  whatever he is. It's fine.
• 1:11:18
  Like he's an, it's a, he's at this point, he is a bit
• 1:11:20
  institutionalized. He's going to defend Powell's
• 1:11:22
  going to defend the honor of the Federal Reserve.
• 1:11:24
  It's a company that he's worked for the last 15 frigging years
• 1:11:27
  of his life. And he's also been the architect
• 1:11:30
  of the changes to the Fed's underlying monetary policy tools
• 1:11:35
  that have handed Trump the keys to the 22nd century for America.
• 1:11:42
  And so it's a complicated relationship, but Trump is
• 1:11:48
  trying to set up in the minds of the average person who doesn't
• 1:11:52
  even know what the fucking Fed is or what it does.
• 1:11:55
  Forget the, you know, 6 Sigma assholes like me who's out on
• 1:11:58
  the lunatic fringe and likes talking about monetary policy.
• 1:12:01
  There's only like 20 of us in the entire world who actually
• 1:12:03
  care about this shit, right? So at this level, so, you know,
• 1:12:10
  I had that conversation with Caitlin Long.
• 1:12:11
  I'm on I podcast this put out yesterday.
• 1:12:13
  We literally were like, yeah, yeah, we're we're we're so way
• 1:12:15
  out in the in the weeds on this stuff that it's it it sounds
• 1:12:18
  like gobbledygook to the rest of the rest of the humanity.
• 1:12:21
  And it does. So from Trump's perspective,
• 1:12:23
  he's got to take what is at best, you know, a, an important
• 1:12:27
  topic, the 5% or 6% of the population at best, and turn it
• 1:12:31
  into an 8020 into an important thing for 80% of the population.
• 1:12:36
  And how do you do that? Well, you tie it to all the same
• 1:12:39
  boring, everyday waste, fraud and abuse argument that he's
• 1:12:43
  made about, you know, everything else that's gone out there.
• 1:12:47
  He ties it to Doge. He ties it, you know, he goes,
• 1:12:50
  he starts, he brings the after saying nothing about the Fed for
• 1:12:53
  three months. Then he comes back and starts
• 1:12:54
  shitting all over Powell right in the middle of quality leering
• 1:12:58
  center. Can you not see the, the, the
• 1:13:01
  political? Can you not see the media
• 1:13:03
  manipulation? He's like moving the Overton
• 1:13:04
  window here and that's what and he's very good at this.
• 1:13:08
  And and anybody who thinks Trump is an idiot is you know, it's
• 1:13:12
  going to get run over because he's not he's a very smart man.
• 1:13:16
  And I've underestimated Donald Trump in the business coming
• 1:13:19
  from somebody who has underestimated Donald Trump many
• 1:13:21
  times in the past. And I'm stopped doing so because
• 1:13:25
  I've so far were two days past the one year anniversary of his
• 1:13:30
  second inauguration. And in those 367 days, I never
• 1:13:38
  expected to see what we've gotten done, done never in a
• 1:13:41
  million years. I'm I'm, you know, I would have
• 1:13:44
  been happy with 15% of this. And we've gotten what we've
• 1:13:46
  gotten and he's accelerating the pace.
• 1:13:50
  So, but you have to be able to see the board from that
• 1:13:53
  perspective. You know, it's it's really funny
• 1:14:02
  watching people try to defend that Donald Trump is a corrupt
• 1:14:05
  asshole. Yeah.
• 1:14:06
  OK. So are you.
• 1:14:08
  What are you, a white knight? Fucking hilarious.
• 1:14:13
  You have to be. You can't be you can't be Donald
• 1:14:18
  Trump and not have know how to play the game dirty.
• 1:14:22
  How do you get a building built in New York?
• 1:14:26
  Lots of envelopes, folks. That's how, That's how.
• 1:14:32
  So that doesn't matter. You know, it doesn't matter
• 1:14:36
  whether Trump is corrupt or he's not corrupt, doesn't matter
• 1:14:38
  whether he was a bad man when he was younger.
• 1:14:41
  None of that matters. Or are we just going to argue
• 1:14:45
  like Democrats and Marxist that there's no forgiveness in this
• 1:14:48
  world if you are a bad man once you don't get ever be a you
• 1:14:51
  don't get to ever redeem yourself.
• 1:14:52
  Is that the way we were? Does that the way the world
• 1:14:54
  works? So, you know, every time you,
• 1:14:57
  you know, got mad and kicked your dog, we're not ever
• 1:14:59
  supposed to forgive you for it. What the fuck off with that
• 1:15:02
  shit? Like, you know, come on, let's,
• 1:15:07
  let's stop being, let's stop being children and let's move
• 1:15:09
  forward. Because that's what that's all I
• 1:15:12
  hear when I, when I listen to Democrats talk, when I listen to
• 1:15:14
  people like that. And they have to come up with
• 1:15:16
  the one thing that somebody did, some politician did once or, you
• 1:15:19
  know, whatever. Like at the end of the day, fuck
• 1:15:22
  off. Like, people are are human, they
• 1:15:24
  make mistakes. All that matters is that we move
• 1:15:26
  forward. Oh, by the way, yeah, somebody
• 1:15:28
  just brought up the Bushes in the chat.
• 1:15:29
  By the way, the Venezuela was about knocking down the Bush
• 1:15:32
  cartel in the United States more than it was as as much as it was
• 1:15:35
  anything else. So it's an angle that no one
• 1:15:38
  wants to talk about. And notice how they're fucking
• 1:15:41
  now. Notice how they've shut the fuck
• 1:15:43
  up. They trial balloon the idea of
• 1:15:45
  bringing Jeb Bush back for 2028. And then Trump nabbed Maduro.
• 1:15:50
  Like if, if I were, if I've, if my last name was Bush in America
• 1:15:55
  right now, even if I wasn't related to those fucking
• 1:15:57
  assholes, I'd be running for and looking for a a second passport
• 1:16:02
  somewhere else. So all right.
• 1:16:07
  Amazing. OK guys, sorry, got to pay the
• 1:16:10
  bills here. Last commercial break and we'll
• 1:16:12
  come back and we're gonna just end it on a I'm hoping an epic
• 1:16:16
  Tom rant here that is gonna that's gonna get the audience
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  All right, Tom, so I'm I'm a little split here because I told
• 1:18:23
  you at the beginning of the show that I want to maybe in some
• 1:18:28
  respects be as like a intro into Tom Luongo thinking.
• 1:18:33
  But I also may be a little selfishly, I do want to hear the
• 1:18:36
  progression from libertarianism to where you are now.
• 1:18:40
  So I want to just give you the floor if you want to continue
• 1:18:43
  going like a intro to Tamawonga thought so you can share it to
• 1:18:46
  your friends and family, we could do that.
• 1:18:50
  If you want to piss off the chat, maybe we go into
• 1:18:53
  libertarianism and why you've progressed from it.
• 1:18:56
  So whichever way you want to go, whatever lane you want to go it,
• 1:18:59
  it's up to you. Floor is all yours.
• 1:19:01
  Well, what I'll say is the following.
• 1:19:02
  Like I I still see him. I still see myself as a
• 1:19:05
  libertarian. I just don't see myself as a as.
• 1:19:08
  I just don't see myself as a person who will only defend A
• 1:19:14
  narco capitalist positions, right?
• 1:19:18
  That's what I want. That's what I can't do.
• 1:19:21
  I'm a pragmatist. I, I believe in the order of
• 1:19:23
  operations. I believe that I take everything
• 1:19:26
  into account as to what I'm dealing with.
• 1:19:29
  For example, I love libertarianism as an ideal and I
• 1:19:32
  love the idea of living in a world where we have such a high
• 1:19:35
  trust society that we can that we can, you know, ruthlessly
• 1:19:43
  defend our property rights and everything else.
• 1:19:44
  I'm absolutely still believe in all that.
• 1:19:47
  And I would love to be able to live in a world where we can
• 1:19:50
  argue about, you know, about very, very small edge cases and
• 1:19:56
  because we've solved everything else.
• 1:19:58
  But you've only solved that problem, right?
• 1:20:00
  You only solve that by creating or building through order of
• 1:20:07
  operations and through time and through the the.
• 1:20:12
  The elimination of of a of abuse, waste, fraud, everything
• 1:20:16
  else and the destruction of trust and the empowerment of
• 1:20:20
  psychopathic shit bags. It's a very important point.
• 1:20:26
  You only build that over time, through generations.
• 1:20:29
  OK? We as humans go through cycles.
• 1:20:32
  I don't know if you I don't care if you go, if you want to
• 1:20:35
  believe in the the Strauss and how, you know, 4th turning model
• 1:20:37
  or whatever, but about 80s every 80 years or so, whether it's
• 1:20:41
  contradio cycles or this one or that, you know, pick, pick your
• 1:20:44
  your cycles theory. You know, I'm as much a fan of
• 1:20:46
  all of those things. I am my fan of Martin Armstrong
• 1:20:49
  and everybody else. But there's a cycle to history
• 1:20:53
  and there are, you know, we are still animals, we are still men,
• 1:20:59
  We are still people driven by passions and driven by our
• 1:21:01
  biology and driven by by all of those things.
• 1:21:08
  And the interplay between the masculine and the feminine,
• 1:21:11
  which builds up a, you know, which builds up frustration and
• 1:21:17
  you know, it's a whole like cycle of weak men make strong,
• 1:21:21
  you know, make bad times, which make, and bad times make strong
• 1:21:24
  men. Strong men make good times.
• 1:21:25
  Good times make weak men weak men.
• 1:21:26
  That cycle happens over and over and over again through history.
• 1:21:30
  And libertarianism in many ways is not compatible with that.
• 1:21:33
  It thinks it wants to be, but it's not because at some point
• 1:21:36
  you have to like go, OK, well, the problems I have are bigger
• 1:21:40
  than I can, that are bigger than me.
• 1:21:43
  Now, I can choose to opt out and that's fine.
• 1:21:45
  And I truly don't care if you decide as a person in your world
• 1:21:52
  to drop out, OK, but then don't tell me you're part of the fight
• 1:21:57
  either. And don't tell everybody else
• 1:22:00
  that they're stupid for fighting.
• 1:22:03
  Because like, I love the Amish. I live near Mennonites now, but
• 1:22:08
  I also know that my willingness to fight for my civilization is
• 1:22:13
  protecting them so that they don't have to.
• 1:22:18
  OK. And the world needs both people.
• 1:22:25
  And that's, I think the hard part.
• 1:22:27
  A lot of people in this, you know, in this this model are
• 1:22:32
  having a really hard time. It's funny, I was watching.
• 1:22:34
  I got, you know, it's funny like the a couple days ago, I don't
• 1:22:38
  know, for whatever reason, I decided I needed to watch the
• 1:22:40
  movie patent again. Now I've seen the movie patent,
• 1:22:43
  I don't know, 35 times. It's my second favorite movie of
• 1:22:45
  all time, right. Star Wars being number one and
• 1:22:48
  then Patton being a, well, Star Wars empire and then Patton.
• 1:22:52
  And I've watched Patton so many times.
• 1:22:54
  I can, you know, practically recite the movie and and
• 1:22:56
  whatnot. But I needed to watch it again
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  and I got watching some stuff about Patton.
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  It's not covered in the movie. And it was a great talk by
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  Victor Davis Hanson about five years ago.
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  He was at Heritage and it was the middle of Trump one point O
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  and he was bringing up the point that men like Patton weren't
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  comfortable with men like Patton because men like Patton are
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  throwback to pre civilization humanity.
• 1:23:20
  That war is pre civilizational, right.
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  And that's there are times when we have to go to war and when we
• 1:23:29
  go to fight a war as civilized people or tamed people or
• 1:23:33
  civilized people. This is Hansen's argument and
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  they really can't even argue with it that we're uncomfortable
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  when we're confronted with men who are understand that to to
• 1:23:42
  win this war, we have to be have to be.
• 1:23:44
  We have to revert for time to pre civilizational behavior.
• 1:23:49
  This is the problem that many libertarians are having right
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  now. When for me and I, and I said
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  this to my I said this in an epic rant one day to my my my
• 1:24:00
  partner in crime at gold goods and guns, Dexter White.
• 1:24:02
  I I was going off about this. I'm like, no, dude, as far as
• 1:24:04
  I'm concerned, all these fucking people are mass murderers and I
• 1:24:06
  have every right in the world to shoot every goddamn one of them
• 1:24:08
  as mass murderers under the non E Russian principle.
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  I don't I don't see what the problem is here.
• 1:24:13
  Like they're all mass murderers. Like I can just know Boom, I
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  don't have I don't need a court to tell me that they're
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  murderers. Sorry, That's the way I think
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  and that's the way I feel now. If you don't, if you're
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  uncomfortable with that, that's why you look at me with that
• 1:24:27
  stuff. Very libertarian.
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  I'm like, the fuck? It's not like you left the
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  meetings really early on because you thought these people were
• 1:24:34
  stupid. That's not me.
• 1:24:36
  I went all the way down this rabbit hole and I came out the
• 1:24:41
  other side looking at it from a very, very hard perspective,
• 1:24:46
  which is that I get to use proportional force against those
• 1:24:50
  who aggressed me on a daily basis.
• 1:24:52
  I'm sorry, but the people who are stealing 65 to 70% of every
• 1:24:55
  fucking dollar, I make the launderer through some fucking
• 1:24:58
  fraud network so they can traffic children and guns and
• 1:25:01
  every guns, drugs and everything else.
• 1:25:04
  Fuck you. I get to shoot you.
• 1:25:05
  Like it's not that hard, right? So it's not that's not beyond
• 1:25:11
  the pale. I'm not going to obviously then
• 1:25:15
  I'm not advocating anybody else does.
• 1:25:17
  But one, once you get into that mindset and you realize that if
• 1:25:23
  they're going to push us to the point where our only response is
• 1:25:29
  war, which is what they're doing, then it's you have to
• 1:25:38
  unleash the patents in this world.
• 1:25:42
  You have to unleash. And that's why people don't
• 1:25:44
  like. That's what you know, if you
• 1:25:45
  listen, Hanson made a great point about Trump.
• 1:25:48
  He said, look, have you ever noticed that people say things
• 1:25:51
  like, I love everything that Trump says, but I are does Trump
• 1:25:54
  is doing? But does he have to say it like
• 1:25:56
  that? Does he have to be so fucking
• 1:25:57
  mean? Like, yes, he does.
• 1:26:01
  Get over it. Stop clutching your fucking
• 1:26:05
  pearls like getting the goddamn vapors because, you know, he
• 1:26:08
  said something mean to somebody. Why don't you just like live
• 1:26:10
  with it? I like, I think Trump's true
• 1:26:13
  social feed is some of the fucking most hilarious shit I've
• 1:26:16
  ever seen. He tweets out on the eve of
• 1:26:18
  Davos, a picture of, you know, an AI picture of the cabinet
• 1:26:23
  sitting in the Oval Office with a, with a, you know, with a
• 1:26:25
  picture of North America on an easel that's got one big
• 1:26:29
  American flag on it. I'm like including Greenland.
• 1:26:32
  I'm like, that's hilarious. That's the way we have to look
• 1:26:37
  at this world. It's not about hegemony and this
• 1:26:43
  and all this fucking left brain bullshit running rattling around
• 1:26:47
  in your head. This is about basic shit.
• 1:26:50
  Are you willing to fuck to save your own species?
• 1:26:55
  To quote the narrator from Fight Club at the midpoint term and
• 1:26:59
  he's beating the shit out of Jared Leto.
• 1:27:03
  Like I was frustrated for every panda that wouldn't fuck to save
• 1:27:06
  its own species. Well, I'm frustrated with every
• 1:27:08
  libertarian who won't, who won't fight to save his own goddamn
• 1:27:11
  community. You have to be, you have to
• 1:27:18
  know, you know it's, it goes back to even I'll, I might put
• 1:27:23
  it another way. What's the real definition of
• 1:27:25
  the word meek? Jordan Peterson used to talk
• 1:27:27
  about this all the time before he went crazy.
• 1:27:31
  Meek is men who have swords and know when to keep them sheathed.
• 1:27:38
  It's not always turn the other cheek until the until somebody
• 1:27:42
  runs you over. No, that's the sign up.
• 1:27:46
  So get hard, do some fucking push ups and shut the fuck up.
• 1:27:50
  Not that tough and let's go win. And then any excesses that we go
• 1:27:54
  through, because there will be excesses and more, we will fix
• 1:27:57
  them in post and we'll apologize and it's going to happen.
• 1:28:02
  But at some point, you're going to have to accept the fact that
• 1:28:06
  you turn over this need to the men who are willing to fight
• 1:28:16
  them that way. They're willing to fight.
• 1:28:20
  And if that means at some point you have to like, you know,
• 1:28:23
  swallow your pride and, you know, jump into the freaking
• 1:28:26
  foxhole, fine. They say there's no atheists in
• 1:28:28
  foxhole, right? There are no libertarians
• 1:28:30
  either. They all ran to, they all ran to
• 1:28:32
  the back with their fucking tail between their legs.
• 1:28:37
  That's the epic Luongo rant I'm going to end on.
• 1:28:40
  Perfect, perfect, perfect. Tom, thank you so much for
• 1:28:45
  coming on today's show. I know this was a little
• 1:28:48
  different than what everyone's used to watching on our show,
• 1:28:50
  but I thoroughly enjoyed this. I had a blast.
• 1:28:53
  You guys couldn't see me on the background, but I was thoroughly
• 1:28:56
  enjoying this Tom. So thank you so much.
• 1:28:59
  But before we go, could you plug your Twitter and your podcast?
• 1:29:03
  So if people like what they heard from Tom, if this is your
• 1:29:05
  first exposure to Tom, I want I want more people to, you know,
• 1:29:09
  listen to what you're saying, whether they agree with you or
• 1:29:12
  not. I, I think you're one of the,
• 1:29:14
  one of the great voices right now on, you know, independent
• 1:29:18
  content creators. I, I, I, I do appreciate that, I
• 1:29:21
  really do. Yeah.
• 1:29:22
  You can follow me on Twitter at TfL 1728.
• 1:29:25
  The worst, a worst version of me will show up every day.
• 1:29:28
  You can. You can follow the podcast at
• 1:29:30
  it's at my it's on my blog at tumble longer than me.
• 1:29:33
  You can also it's syndicated everywhere.
• 1:29:35
  The Gold Ghost and Guns podcast comes out irregularly, folks.
• 1:29:37
  Whenever the spirit moves, whenever I've got something to
• 1:29:39
  say, as far as I'm concerned, I only put out signal, not noise.
• 1:29:42
  I don't the podcast is not meant to be a daily driver.
• 1:29:46
  It's meant to be a thing that when a certain conversation
• 1:29:49
  needs to happen, that's when we do.
• 1:29:51
  That's when I do an episode and of course Patreon slash gold
• 1:29:55
  goats and guns, which is how we pay the bills.
• 1:29:57
  So there's the Patreon I do Wednesday and every Wednesday
• 1:30:00
  and Sunday I do a one hour, what I call the market report, which
• 1:30:04
  is a, you know, it's a mixture of this kind of ranting along
• 1:30:07
  with deep technical analysis and cross market analysis of what
• 1:30:11
  I'm seeing in the financial markets, which ties directly
• 1:30:16
  back to what we're talking about at the geopolitical level.
• 1:30:19
  Those two things are into intimately linked and we we do
• 1:30:23
  an an upcoming up updated, regularly updated conversation
• 1:30:26
  there as well. And then of course, the monthly
• 1:30:27
  newsletter where we've got a portfolio and you know, and all
• 1:30:30
  the rest of it. So that's how we pay the bills.
• 1:30:33
  That's what we do. So.
• 1:30:35
  Well, thank you so much for coming on today, Tom and guys,
• 1:30:39
  we'll be back tomorrow with our normal show.
• 1:30:41
  I know this is a little different.
• 1:30:42
  It was a Tom Luongo special. We were super excited.
• 1:30:45
  I, I didn't want to put Tom through the normal show.
• 1:30:48
  I just wanted to give Tom a platform to get get the ideas
• 1:30:51
  out. Hopefully you guys got something
• 1:30:53
  from this. I, I think they did.
• 1:30:54
  I, I, I think, I think if they digest the anger, they'll be
• 1:30:58
  like, you know, Tom was making some points.
• 1:31:00
  I'll have to go back. All right, guys, I'll be back
• 1:31:05
  tomorrow. Have a good rest of your day.
• 1:31:06
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