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ITB: Taking Deep Look at Eagles First Week of Training Camp · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello again everyone, Welcome to Inside the Birds. It's Kaplin
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Speaker 1: and to check go back. So nice, we did it twice. Andrew,
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Speaker 1: good to see you.
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Speaker 2: Great to be with you, Adam, looking forward to the show.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So on today's show, we're gonna kind of tell you
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Speaker 1: a little bit more about the standouts, what went on
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Speaker 1: the first week where they only had three practices, plus
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Speaker 1: we'll walkthrough and we'll get into the practice schedule this week,
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Speaker 1: which will be a little bit more full, a little
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Speaker 1: different from last week, which is typical of the first
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Speaker 1: week is always later, and then we'll get into the transaction.
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Speaker 1: They actually had their first training camp transaction. A veteran
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Speaker 1: was actually released, which happened Sunday. But Andrew first. So
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Speaker 1: you have the three practices walk through. Of course the
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Speaker 1: media doesn't get to see, but you saw the three
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Speaker 1: practice You saw every.
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Speaker 3: Snap you were there.
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Speaker 1: You got to see it quite a bit. What were
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Speaker 1: your overall this team after three practices.
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Speaker 4: This defense is as advertised at them at all three
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Speaker 4: levels they're operating in concert. They just have a really
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Speaker 4: good feel for what one another's doing, and that really
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Speaker 4: shouldn't be a surprise. The better part of this unit
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Speaker 4: has been together for at least three seasons.
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Speaker 2: They're entering their third year with.
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Speaker 4: Vic Vangeo, and it's to be expected that they're giving
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Speaker 4: the offense some quality work and I think the offense
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Speaker 4: will ultimately benefit from it having going against the unit
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Speaker 4: this stet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and remember they're going to play Dallas twice and
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Speaker 1: they'll be running the Fangio scheme and some others that
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Speaker 1: they'll face will run some of that stuff, so they'll
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happens. But yeah, so we
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Speaker 1: got we got through the first part of training camp. Now,
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Speaker 1: the offense, as fully expected, is far behind the defense
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Speaker 1: in terms of efficiency. But Andrew, I know when your
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Speaker 1: daily to check or you talk about some standouts. So
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Speaker 1: what did you like about the offense that you saw.
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Speaker 4: Well, I did like a lot of the under center
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Speaker 4: play actions. I thought Jaywen Hurts made some of his
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Speaker 4: better throws out of under center and the play action passes.
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Speaker 4: And it's going to be a work in progress, but
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Speaker 4: I did see some things that I liked. He's taking
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Speaker 4: more chances than he has that I can remember, which
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Speaker 4: is good to see. We'll see if that carries over
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Speaker 4: into the regular season. But he's willing to throw the
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Speaker 4: ball into tight windows, which is going to be imperative
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Speaker 4: of a true West Coast offense, which this is. And
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Speaker 4: there are certain players that have really stood out to me,
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Speaker 4: namely Tank Bigsby, the Eagles running back who they acquired
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Speaker 4: last September. I think he stands to have a more
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Speaker 4: defined role this year. You see the change of pace
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Speaker 4: that he presents and just a lot of juice and explosiveness.
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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what he can do when
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Speaker 4: the pads come on. Then you look at some of
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Speaker 4: the other receivers, Davonte Smith, he's as consistent and steady
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Speaker 4: as he gets. But then you're looking at Okay, what
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Speaker 4: are you seeing from Dotte Avian Wicks. How's McKay lemon progressing.
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Speaker 4: McKayle lemon was targeted a few different times on Saturday,
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Speaker 4: none of them were complete, but I think it really
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Speaker 4: underscores a more important point here, and that is that
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Speaker 4: they are looking to get him involved. He seeing a
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Speaker 4: lot of first team reps and we'll see if they're
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Speaker 4: able to start to establish some consistency there in getting
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Speaker 4: him the football throughout the summer.
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Speaker 1: All right, before we take a deep dive on the offense,
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Speaker 1: and then we'll hit the defense. They did have one
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Speaker 1: transaction during the first week, and they released Taekwon Graham
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Speaker 1: as a veteran who was drafted by the Falcons. He's
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Speaker 1: actually vested veteran, the only defensive tackle that they had
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Speaker 1: who was vested. They released them with a non football
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Speaker 1: entry settlement. And you were telling me off the air
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Speaker 1: that he was not. He was excused on Saturday. Is
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Speaker 1: that correct?
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Speaker 4: Excuse not injury related? Right, he was a number of
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Speaker 4: the players had that designation and he was one of them.
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Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, so he's no longer an Eagle.
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Speaker 1: They are now down to eight defensive tackles on the
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Speaker 1: ninety man roster. Six are guys who actually have playing experience.
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Speaker 1: It's Ojomo Davison, Carter who are the starters, Gabe Hall,
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Speaker 1: who's been this is his third year on enough the
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Speaker 1: Eagles roster, Ty Robinson of course, and Byron Young is
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Speaker 1: the first guy off the bench. Then you have Zion
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Speaker 1: the undrafted free agent out of East Carolina who's a
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Speaker 1: very intriguing player, and of course you are Bernard. So look,
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Speaker 1: Haekon Green was a major long shot to make it anyway,
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Speaker 1: but they won't have him as he was released and
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Speaker 1: by the way, he was going to make just under
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Speaker 1: one point three million, so they did a settlement which
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Speaker 1: is going to be far less than he was going
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Speaker 1: to make, but again he is going to make some
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Speaker 1: money from the Eagles this season.
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Speaker 3: Do the settlement.
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Speaker 1: So as we move on Andrew back to the offense.
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Speaker 1: The guy, you know, it's interesting Dan Tavian Wicks. He
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Speaker 1: certainly everyone probably knows about it now. Most people do
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Speaker 1: the big time catch in Thursday's practice on a broken play.
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Speaker 1: But overall with Don Tavian Wicks, what did you see
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Speaker 1: from him?
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Speaker 4: Someone who's really good at creating separation in the short
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Speaker 4: to intermediate levels. He's not someone who's going to threaten
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Speaker 4: down the field, at least consistently. That's not really his game.
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Speaker 4: But he has a different frame relative to the other
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Speaker 4: players in the room. And going back to his time
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Speaker 4: in Green Bay, Adam what I noticed about him because
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Speaker 4: he does a nice job of using his body for
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Speaker 4: positioning and doing some of the technical aspects of that job.
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Speaker 4: The questions with him is can he catch the football consistently.
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Speaker 4: That's been something that's played him throughout his time in
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Speaker 4: Green Bay, and needless to say, he's going to undertake
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Speaker 4: a much more prominent role here in Philadelphia, so that's
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Speaker 4: something that's going to be under the spotlight here throughout camp.
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Speaker 4: But he has had he's had a handful of catches
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Speaker 4: and you could see him sort of develop the rapport
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Speaker 4: with Jayleen hurt says as practices progress here. But obviously
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Speaker 4: he's one of the more fascinating cases in this offense
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Speaker 4: because not a lot is known about him. It's never
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Speaker 4: had more than thirty nine catches in a season, maybe
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Speaker 4: seventy four or seventy five targets in a season, so
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Speaker 4: he's a big question mark. But I think what's most
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Speaker 4: interesting about this is that clearly Sean.
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Speaker 2: Mannion and Ryan Mahaffey.
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Speaker 4: Ryan Mahafey was his wide receivers coach for two years
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Speaker 4: in Green Bay. They have a unique perspective on what
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Speaker 4: he can provide and will have to see if he's
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Speaker 4: able to meet the moment here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, see what hurt him is UVA. He had won
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Speaker 1: really good season, then the rest was just not good enough.
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Speaker 1: So he dropped plus the forty time at the combine,
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Speaker 1: which was bad in four six two. So it ran
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Speaker 1: much better at his Pro day and that helped him
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Speaker 1: at least get drafted. But there's talent there. He's a
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Speaker 1: what you would call a big six foot one in
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Speaker 1: three tenths of an inch. He's he certainly looks bigger
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Speaker 1: than that.
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Speaker 3: Up front.
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Speaker 1: He's got long arms, fairly long arms. So he was
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Speaker 1: a fifth round up by the way with the Packers
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. So yeah, he's gonna be one
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Speaker 1: of their top three receivers. But the question is, as
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Speaker 1: we transition to some more of the receivers, here is
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Speaker 1: mackay Lemon, who's gonna ligne up mostly in the slot.
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Speaker 1: What are your feelings on him for a guy who
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Speaker 1: missed the majority of their offseason dude to injury.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't. It doesn't appear as though he's too
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Speaker 2: far behind the eight ball.
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Speaker 4: The Eagles are given him a ton of first team reps.
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Speaker 4: He's been utilized in terms of motion and things like that.
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Speaker 4: He was targeted a few times on Saturday Day, Adam.
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Speaker 4: None of them were complete. There was one on a
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Speaker 4: deep shot down the sideline where he had a half
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Speaker 4: step on Cooper Degene. Cooper Degen was able to close
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Speaker 4: the gap there. The pass was a little long, from
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Speaker 4: jaywhen hurts. There was one during a seven on seventh
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Speaker 4: period over the middle and you know Drew mccober was
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Speaker 4: able to break on it, sort of ran through him
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Speaker 4: a little bit there that was incomplete. Then there was
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Speaker 4: another one in the red zone when they were working
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Speaker 4: on red zone period where Jay would try to fit
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Speaker 4: one end to him and Jeremiah Trotter Junior pulled them
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Speaker 4: down and drew the pass interference flag. So and they're
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Speaker 4: getting they're looking to get him involved in they're targeting them.
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Speaker 2: We just got to see some of that develop a
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Speaker 2: little bit more.
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you who's flashed and if he makes it,
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Speaker 1: it's he's not gonna see much time if he plays
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Speaker 1: it all on offense. But Britain Covey had a number
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Speaker 1: of catches in Thursday's practice. Yes, I know they're not
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Speaker 1: in paths or anything. It's the practices are life. But man,
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Speaker 1: he is. They they don't even a slot receiver because
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Speaker 1: they've got lemon. They don't even back.
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Speaker 3: Up slot receiver. It's not necessary.
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Speaker 1: But man, Britain Covey, he's got good quicks for a
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Speaker 1: small guy. It's just the key here is what could
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Speaker 1: he provide other than Putt returning, not much else and
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Speaker 1: that's going to be the challenge for him.
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Speaker 2: Britain's a hard worker man.
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Speaker 4: Every summer that he's been in Philadelphia, he flashes here
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Speaker 4: and there with some receptions. He does have really good
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Speaker 4: Sharia quickness that's really fascinating to watch when you watch
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Speaker 4: the receivers go through individuals. Him and DeVante Smith have
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Speaker 4: a really unique quickness to them when they're doing the drills.
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Speaker 4: But it's going to be very difficult for him, needless
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Speaker 4: to say. But I don't know. I feel like he's
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Speaker 4: a player that is going to be someone in the
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Speaker 4: preseason who really flashes. Now, being that far down in
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Speaker 4: the depth chart, you're not likely to see a role,
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Speaker 4: but he is sort of interesting as a potential manufactured
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Speaker 4: touch player. I just don't know that that would be
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Speaker 4: the case here because of all the players in front
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Speaker 4: of him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and believe this or not, he actually turns thirty
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Speaker 1: years old in March.
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Speaker 3: That's hard he.
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Speaker 4: Actually, believe it or not, a little fun fact we
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Speaker 4: share the same birthday here.
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Speaker 3: You really, Yeah, you're a little bit older right now. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: just a tad It's just a tad set.
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Speaker 1: So as we as we continue on offense, you know,
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Speaker 1: the number one thing coming into this situation with hurts
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Speaker 1: with the timing, but also very important is the health
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Speaker 1: of the offensive line. And I know they're not in pads,
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Speaker 1: they're not hitting the Temple's way faster and it was
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Speaker 1: though in the OHA's If you've watched the lineman, what
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Speaker 1: have you seen from them?
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Speaker 4: The angles are something that you're going to notice right away,
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Speaker 4: the first look that you have at the offensive line.
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Speaker 4: I'm speaking to those who haven't seen it yet. I
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Speaker 4: think it should alleviate some pressure from them, and relative
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Speaker 4: to the grueling nature that they adopted under just that
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Speaker 4: one for many years, it should preserve them a little
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Speaker 4: bit more. But adam to a larger point here, from
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Speaker 4: a health perspective, they seem to be right where you
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Speaker 4: would expect them to be. There doesn't appear to be
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Speaker 4: any lingering effects from last season, and that's all you
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Speaker 4: can ask for at this stage. But it's among the
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Speaker 4: most prominent storylines going on into the fall and really
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so on the one of the guys I felt
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Speaker 1: and I watched them a little bit on Thursday is
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Speaker 1: John Ojokuo who is the who's an undirector free acher
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Speaker 1: with the Titans at twenty three. I was on and
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Speaker 1: off the roster several times. But man, he is athletic.
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Speaker 1: He can move like they list him over three hundred pounds.
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Speaker 1: He looks smaller than that, but he's over six foot five. Andrew,
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Speaker 1: what do you know about this guy?
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Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought him up at him because John
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Speaker 4: Adjuku and Jake Majors are two players that are kind
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Speaker 4: of under the radar. But I will be keeping an
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Speaker 4: eye on them not only throughout training camp, but also
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Speaker 4: in the preseason. Ujuku has played in sixteen games nine
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Speaker 4: starts with the Tennessee Titans. He's an undrafted free agent
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, I believe out of Boise State,
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Speaker 4: And if I remember correctly, and I have to go
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Speaker 4: back and check the notes, I think they may have
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Speaker 4: used him a little bit at guard, cross train him
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Speaker 4: a little bit in the spring. So I think when
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Speaker 4: you look at the reserve offensive lineman, there's not a
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Speaker 4: ton of experience there from a tackle perspective, and he's
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Speaker 4: kind of an interesting player that I think will have
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Speaker 4: a decent shot at maybe grabbing one of those final
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Speaker 4: spots there if he's able to put together a consistent summer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we know Fred Johnson'll be on the roster, then
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Speaker 1: Marco Bell obviously, Drew Kendall, then after that Andrew. It's
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Speaker 1: I mean, Michael marsh should be He's drafted six round,
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Speaker 1: you know, the developmental guard.
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Speaker 4: I should mention that he left injured on Saturday's practice,
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Speaker 4: so we'll have to wait and see what the extent
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Speaker 4: of it is. But yeah, Worth mentioning.
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Speaker 1: Right, and Holland pierces back. I know the cross room
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Speaker 1: a little bit of guard. He's not a really natural guard.
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Speaker 1: You're right, man, there's just in terms of certainties of
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. Obviously he's a guy they brought in a
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Speaker 1: veteran to compete for a.
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Speaker 3: Backup guard job.
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Speaker 1: I just don't have a lot, just don't have a
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Speaker 1: lot of depth. That was a it was a problem
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Speaker 1: last year. It's a concern this year. We'll learn more
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Speaker 1: about it again. They've only had three practices, no pads,
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Speaker 1: no hitting, no nothing. So but when we go to
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Speaker 1: the practice schedulingdo this week? We now now we got
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Speaker 1: a full week. They practice five days Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, walkthrough, Friday,
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Speaker 1: Saturday practice, Sunday off. So five practices this week a
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Speaker 1: full week.
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Speaker 3: For the Eagles Andrews.
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Speaker 1: So as we continue on offense here, so let's get
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Speaker 1: over to Jalen Hurts and the quarterbacks. Overall again, only
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Speaker 1: three practices. What are your feelings about this group with
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Speaker 1: this offense early on?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, patience is going to need to be exercised here,
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Speaker 4: and that should have been the sentiment going into training camp.
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Speaker 4: I understand that expectations aren't always that, but that's the
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Speaker 4: reality of the situation. When you're talking about doing something
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Speaker 4: that's a drastic departure from anything the Eagles have done
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Speaker 4: in the past. There's going to be days where the offense,
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Speaker 4: maybe down the line here thrives or has some bright moments.
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Speaker 4: There's going to be days where they're going to struggle
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Speaker 4: a little bit, but I think by and large Jalen
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Speaker 4: Hurts especially. I'm talking more about the first two practices.
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Speaker 4: I thought that he had some positive moments delivering the football.
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Speaker 4: There are moments where I think all of the quarterbacks,
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Speaker 4: including Jalen, hold the ball tick longer than you'd like
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Speaker 4: to see. That's something I still notice through three practices.
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Speaker 4: But you'd like to see the offense be able to
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Speaker 4: generate some more positive plays than what we've seen, even
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Speaker 4: though you know you're taking everything into context here.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, no one gives any awards Andrew
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Speaker 1: after three days, but Darius Cooper man, he is just
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Speaker 1: he's got a No. It's one thing to make the team,
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Speaker 1: which it would not be a surprise, but we know
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Speaker 1: the top three receivers are with Smith, Wix and Lemon.
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Speaker 1: After that it's open. I know, Hollywood Brown's going to
17:17
Speaker 1: make five million whether he's on the team or not.
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Speaker 1: But Darius Cooper Andrew has been really, really good. He
17:22
Speaker 1: flashed to me for those three days.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he absolutely has.
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Speaker 4: And you know, just when you're ready to count him
17:27
Speaker 4: out and you look at the receivers in front of him,
17:30
Speaker 4: I would say that through three practices, if I had
17:33
Speaker 4: five receivers, he would be my fifth receiver. And he's
17:36
Speaker 4: been getting at least on Saturday, was really notable more
17:39
Speaker 4: first team reps than Johnny Wilson.
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Speaker 2: He seems to.
17:42
Speaker 4: Make a play every day that reminds you of, oh,
17:44
Speaker 4: this guy can play and he shouldn't be written off.
17:47
Speaker 4: So I think with Darius Cooper, there's such a maturity
17:50
Speaker 4: to him, and that's something that talking to different people
17:53
Speaker 4: and even talking to Darius himself, that's very evident. And
17:55
Speaker 4: he approaches it like a business. So every day he's
17:58
Speaker 4: out there looking to earn his spot and never complace it.
18:02
Speaker 4: And I think because he has those qualities, that's going
18:05
Speaker 4: to give him a better shot more often than not.
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Speaker 1: All Right, now it's time to look at the defense.
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Speaker 1: So Andrew, we know that Gernard is going to be
18:14
Speaker 1: out a bit with his practorial strain. It's a bummer
18:18
Speaker 1: obviously for them and him getting acclimated to Vic Fangio's
18:22
Speaker 1: scheme because he has a practice since last season, that's
18:24
Speaker 1: a concern, but they they made it clear he's gonna
18:28
Speaker 1: be ready for the start of the season. But my guy,
18:31
Speaker 1: who's I mean the time I've been there and then
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Speaker 1: what I've heard when I'm been told jaylex Shun has
18:37
Speaker 1: been great.
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Speaker 3: What does he look like to you when you've watched.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a lot of candidates that you
18:42
Speaker 4: can make the case for for being defensive standouts, Jay
18:45
Speaker 4: when Carter being one of them as well, But I'm
18:47
Speaker 4: going with Jay obxhon here because from pillar to post,
18:50
Speaker 4: from the first practice to the to where we are
18:53
Speaker 4: going into day four, he's thrived throughout and you see
18:56
Speaker 4: the first step quickness, the refined approach when it comes
18:59
Speaker 4: to pass rush. He seems to have a better understanding
19:02
Speaker 4: of how to defeat offensive tackles, and he mentioned his
19:06
Speaker 4: attention to detail. He mentioned this back in the spring
19:09
Speaker 4: as being an element of his game that he feels
19:11
Speaker 4: has grown the most, and I think it's very evident
19:14
Speaker 4: when you watch him play out there, he is He's
19:16
Speaker 4: filled out his frame that was last season as well.
19:19
Speaker 4: He's become an effective two way player. But I really
19:22
Speaker 4: do feel at him that he has the necessary ingredients
19:25
Speaker 4: to make a big jump here in year three.
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Speaker 1: On that point you just made about year three, someone
19:33
Speaker 1: asked me this and I couldn't answer it. I said, look,
19:36
Speaker 1: I need time to think about it. So I'm gonna
19:37
Speaker 1: throws to you and then I'll respond after you let
19:40
Speaker 1: us know what you think. Sure, what is the upside
19:42
Speaker 1: of this player?
19:45
Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I gus my first thought immediately is double
19:51
Speaker 4: digit sack potential. And I don't think that that's being
19:54
Speaker 4: a prisoner of the moment. You can see it with him,
19:57
Speaker 4: and if you look at where he's grown from year
19:59
Speaker 4: one to year two, he played two hundred and forty
20:01
Speaker 4: one snaps as a rookie six hundred ninety three last year,
20:04
Speaker 4: he's grown into being a dependable player for vic Vanjaeol.
20:07
Speaker 4: Just listen to how he's you know, he speaks about him.
20:10
Speaker 4: He speaks relatively glowingly about jayaloxs hunt and behind the scenes,
20:15
Speaker 4: there's a lot of diligence in his preparation behind the scenes.
20:18
Speaker 4: So not only are you seeing it on the field,
20:19
Speaker 4: but he's putting in the work behind the scenes to
20:22
Speaker 4: make sure that he's doing all the necessary things to
20:24
Speaker 4: take that leap. He's a player that if you're looking
20:27
Speaker 4: to buy some stock, buy some stock into jayoas.
20:30
Speaker 1: Hunt so with Jylex Hunt right combine size six three
20:34
Speaker 1: and three quarters.
20:35
Speaker 3: But this is where it gets fascinating.
20:37
Speaker 1: He's got left tackle arms Andrew thirty four and three arms,
20:41
Speaker 1: wingspan eight to.
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Speaker 3: A third almost eighty three inches.
20:44
Speaker 1: That's unheard of, really for a guy that out of
20:48
Speaker 1: Texas Christian who only played edge two years in college.
20:53
Speaker 1: He's a safety at Cornell. He had that crazy Lake
20:55
Speaker 1: Growthsburg by the way, hand sized ten which is really good.
21:00
Speaker 1: Four forty was his official. But he plays. He's explosive.
21:03
Speaker 1: His vert was thirty seven and a half inches. Andrew,
21:05
Speaker 1: he's a guy that, Yeah, I would say to move
21:08
Speaker 1: this along here, He's got everything in his body.
21:11
Speaker 3: To do he let's put it the way.
21:13
Speaker 1: Joshua was a really good player for a while with Eagles.
21:17
Speaker 1: This is a I'm gonna make a bold statement here.
21:18
Speaker 1: I believe he's got a chance to be better than josh.
21:20
Speaker 3: What that's what I think? It's upset is okay.
21:23
Speaker 1: Sweats, Yeah, but he's so explosive, he wants it very coachable.
21:31
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you're in the locker room a lot.
21:33
Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 1: He's a really sharp guy. I've heard a lot of interviews.
21:36
Speaker 1: I go, you know, this guy is like you know Cornell, Okay,
21:38
Speaker 1: I get it, But he's for a guy that's new
21:41
Speaker 1: to this. This is only fifty years an che rusher,
21:43
Speaker 1: seems wise behind his ears.
21:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very charismatic too. But I agree with you, Adam.
21:48
Speaker 4: I actually I do believe that he has he offers
21:51
Speaker 4: higher upside than Josh Sweat. And that's not to short
21:55
Speaker 4: change Josh Sweat at all, but I just believe I'm
21:58
Speaker 4: so bullish on Joke's kind of had been during the
22:00
Speaker 4: pre draft process. Everything that I've gathered about him behind
22:03
Speaker 4: the scenes leading up to the draft suggested this is
22:06
Speaker 4: a player that maybe needed a year or two to
22:09
Speaker 4: marinate a little bit, but the upside was apparent, and
22:11
Speaker 4: I think you're starting to see the development happen right
22:14
Speaker 4: before your eyes. And I'm curious to see what he's
22:17
Speaker 4: able to do going into the season with Jonathan Bernard
22:19
Speaker 4: opposite him, where he's Jonathan Barnard's naturally going to command
22:23
Speaker 4: a lot more attention, which should unlock the full potential
22:26
Speaker 4: of Jay lox Hunt.
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Speaker 2: Year three.
22:27
Speaker 3: YEP.
22:28
Speaker 1: I would agree with you, then, But Arnold Abakeetti, who
22:31
Speaker 1: the they brought in. They pay him decent coin to
22:33
Speaker 1: be a backup. And remember with Garnard out, it's Hunt,
22:37
Speaker 1: it's Smith and Ebiqetty are your three? Epanessa's in there?
22:41
Speaker 1: A Keishan, James Neuby. Did he get hurt?
22:43
Speaker 2: He did? He got hurt on Saturday and not there's
22:46
Speaker 2: no update?
22:47
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, okay.
22:48
Speaker 1: And Josh Waver who's the undirected free agent, who's you know,
22:52
Speaker 1: he's running third and fourth team. So it's it's it's
22:54
Speaker 1: gonna be a while there. But the thing is, even
22:56
Speaker 1: without Gernard, they've got there. They're okay, like they've got
22:59
Speaker 1: a guys there. And Epanessa. I don't know about you,
23:02
Speaker 1: but man, he does not look to eighty. He looks
23:05
Speaker 1: like two point fifty. More information from the other teams.
23:07
Speaker 1: But so when I asked me, hey, could they be
23:09
Speaker 1: a number one defense? And I was like, well, if
23:11
Speaker 1: this happens, this happens, and this happens potentially, what are
23:14
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that?
23:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still need more information. There's there's obviously some
23:17
Speaker 4: other units out there, the Denver Broncos and others, but
23:21
Speaker 4: just watching the Eagles and how you have all three
23:24
Speaker 4: levels that are operating in Unison. They're playing together and
23:27
Speaker 4: they have this continuity which I think is the secret
23:30
Speaker 4: ingredient here.
23:31
Speaker 2: And it's it's it's you don't have to squint to
23:34
Speaker 2: see it.
23:34
Speaker 4: I think there's a possibility where that can happen, and
23:37
Speaker 4: I don't know that that's hyperbole. When you watch the
23:39
Speaker 4: way they play, you look how deep they are at
23:41
Speaker 4: key positions, whether it's edge rusher or defensive line. They
23:45
Speaker 4: have two All pros on the back end. They have
23:47
Speaker 4: a player who they're really high on, Andrew mccooba. Now
23:50
Speaker 4: it just becomes about putting it all together and being consistent.
23:53
Speaker 1: Yep, before we get out of here today's practice, we'll
23:56
Speaker 1: see if it's raining then because overnight on Sunday we
23:59
Speaker 1: got we got a lot of range, So we'll see
24:01
Speaker 1: what happens. But uh, the first full week is always
24:04
Speaker 1: interesting because guys get so hyped for the pads. So
24:08
Speaker 1: the coaches it's very important it look the days of tackling.
24:12
Speaker 1: They don't do that here. Okay, they don't know any
24:15
Speaker 1: read sures heck did when he was in Philly, but
24:16
Speaker 1: they don't tackle. But it's the feeling of pads being
24:19
Speaker 1: on and it's just there's something to it. Andrew, your
24:23
Speaker 1: first what your first practice?
24:24
Speaker 3: What? Twenty one?
24:25
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one? Yeah, twenty one. Okay, did you see
24:29
Speaker 1: them ever hit?
24:33
Speaker 2: No that year or no?
24:36
Speaker 1: I would say the only time I saw them hit
24:38
Speaker 1: was at the Link when they would do the evening
24:40
Speaker 1: practice and they let the threes hit, which.
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Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, yeah, right, yeah right. But it's just
24:45
Speaker 3: it's it's not like it used to be.
24:47
Speaker 1: But I do we know when they're going to be
24:49
Speaker 1: in past this week if they if they said that yet.
24:52
Speaker 4: No, I would I would imagine it might be Tuesday, Wednesday, okay, okay,
24:56
Speaker 4: somewhere around there. But that's always the best day of
24:59
Speaker 4: the because you can just feel the intensity in the
25:02
Speaker 4: air is palpable, and that's where the intensity intensity ratchets
25:06
Speaker 4: up a little bit.
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Speaker 2: So yep, I can't wait.
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Speaker 1: For that awesome also, right, So, so stay tuned this
25:10
Speaker 1: week for Andrews to checko daily reports from practice. Andrew
25:14
Speaker 1: and I will be back together Wednesday morning. You and
25:17
Speaker 1: I will be together at Tuesday's practice, which looks rain
25:20
Speaker 1: free as of now. Knock on wood, let's hope that
25:23
Speaker 1: holds up. Mosher will be back later this week, Jeff's
25:26
Speaker 1: have assignment where we don't know.
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Speaker 3: He's somewhere on assignment.
25:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about that later as we keeps buying it.
25:32
Speaker 3: We're joking, but.
25:33
Speaker 1: Overall, guys, looking forward to the first week of full
25:36
Speaker 1: Eagles practices. For Andrew Ducheco, I'm Adam Kaplan. We'll see
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Speaker 1: you next time.