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BML: COVID EO's, Chappell and Submarines · Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast

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This is Bill make live. I heart radios.
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Talk for the Space Coast with today's Common Sense on common
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radio. Here's Bill Mitch Welcome to our
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three of our Monday, October 11th Edition, a bill Mick live
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as is our tradition on a Monday at 8:00, Dave Bowman, joins us
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from Washington and the good news is, well, I'm sitting here
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doing the jobs of what on some shows are four or five people.
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I don't have time to do research in the middle of show.
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I'm busy dealing with phones and you and discussion and trying to
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keep a train of thought on track, but that doesn't always
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happen either. Davis able to do a little bit of
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research, and he was doing some during that last hour as we were
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discussing. This local impact of the Biden
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Administration. Mandate that thou shalt be
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vaccinated or Thou shalt you lose.
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Thy government contractor job morning.
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Dave Bowman. How are things in Silverdale,
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Washington this morning? Happy Columbus, Day Monday to
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you. Indigenous peoples day.
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I was born here pal. Well, you know, it feels like
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the old days when you used to make us come in on holidays and
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working at five in the morning. Anyway, so here I am.
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Yeah, we used to do that. That's true.
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Yeah, so it's just like recognized holiday.
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It's apparently not been mandated by the government that
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we take it yet. It's a Federal holiday.
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When you talking about, it's a Federal holiday.
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They haven't mandated it. You recognize it as such a
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people not to work though. Well, it's misnamed anyway, so
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there you go, but I'll talk. Back tomorrow on my show.
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So anyway, yeah, it's kind of like the old days when you would
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be on the air and I would be on the board and I just, you know,
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had your stuff while you were talking, those were the good old
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days, so they were and they were a blast that I miss them.
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It was, you know, it was an interesting, our last hour
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listening to people make a sir tations and counter assert
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ations and you know it started with the New South Wales thing
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with the gal that resigned. She didn't resign because of
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covid, she resigned because apparently some years ago she
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was sleeping with a career. Up state legislator who was who
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stands accused of listen to follow this now, it's Australia.
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Giving certain gun clubs, you know, like shooting clubs,
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special privileges. And and so he's in trouble for
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that. She was sleeping with him some
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years ago. So she resigned we at the top
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story in Victoria where she resigned over covid because she
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doesn't like the oppressive things they're having to do to
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the citizens of Australia and and conversely.
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Laramie. Wyoming Police, one of your
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favorite places on the planet because they make some kind of
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whiskey, that's really good or something.
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They arrest a High School Junior because she's not wearing a mask
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at school. It's like duh.
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That's interesting, because both of my brothers graduated from
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that high school. So, and and that, right?
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Yeah, and I like, all things like that belie approach that
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with some trepidation we had a story here last week about kids
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being sent home because their clothing was heavily, Carhartt
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brand clothing and they were told that it was racist and they
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Or this that and the other well, come to find out there was
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obviously more to the story, which was that they were wearing
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Trump flags as capes. They were screaming, make
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America great again. They were being very disruptive,
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I suspect with that story in Laramie when we dig a Little
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Deeper, we'll find that there's more to the story, but we
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haven't gotten there yet so we'll wait.
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Well, and the girl and her family basically say, we're
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pushing this to the Limit simply.
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Because our lawyer said, that's the way to do it to get a court
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decision on it. And if you don't have this
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disability, In play, if you don't have a citation from the,
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from the police or in, and now an arrest since she pushed it
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further, then you don't have any way to get it into court.
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So she is intentionally pushing the issue.
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Yeah, and, and that doesn't surprise me, that somebody's
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lawyer told them to use their children to, to make their
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parents. So at any rate, so then I'm
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loose on this mandate from the administration though and I
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appreciate you being able to do it while we were so busy.
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In the last hour. What did you find out?
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Number one? It's very Very, very confusing.
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That's the first thing you got to understand.
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Any time you're dealing with the government.
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They are not going to come out and say yes, we have a vaccine
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mandate. They're just not going to say
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that because they would rather use 10,000 words where we're ten
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would do so that so that everything is coverable.
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There is a September 9th, executive order, 1404 to from
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President Biden, which outlines something.
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This is where it gets weird. That is Not actually from OSHA.
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It's actually from a committee called the safer, Federal
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Workforce tax task force, which I'm sure includes OSHA and some
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other folks. This is issued as a September 24
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2021. It's 7, 14 pages in length and
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you I'll I'll link it up in the chat room.
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So if anybody wants to see it, they can't.
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This is based on the Dave, Bowman show.com.
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By the way, I've shared that with you on the wmm, be Facebook
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page. If you're looking for a while
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puts also a bill makes. Uh, cam, I'll put this in your
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chat room here on the show today.
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This is based on Biden's path out of the pandemic covid-19
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action plan. And this is where you get that
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set up that December 8 date from, where contractors Federal
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contractors Federal subcontractors.
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Anybody that's taking on a new government.
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Contract has to be fully compliant with the vaccination.
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This is not OSHA per se, although I'm sure OSHA's
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involved with it. Nor is it, you know, a law.
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It passed by Congress. It's simply a task force that
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came up with some rules that the president then said, in
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executive order, these rules apply and you will abide by
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them. So, that's where the whole thing
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comes from. And it's kind of one of the
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things, we're Scott's, right? It's not on the OSHA website.
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But the other guys, right in the sense that there is an executive
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order saying this. So it's like the government is
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intentionally, trying to obfuscate everything and
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contractors are caught in the middle of this saying, you know,
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at some point, Aunt, it's just easier to make our employers,
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get the vaccination than it is to try to.
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Please these government overlords and I think that's the
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point we've reached. I've been thinking Dave though.
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What if Grumman and Harrison in Lockheed and these other Federal
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contractors that are relied upon heavily for much.
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If not all of our military hardware and software these
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days. What if they just said, you
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know, what you've gone a step too far.
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We're not going to get involved in our employees, medical
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decisions between them and their doctors.
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What's the government going to do?
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If these contractors? Say, you know, what?
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No, where did you not go to do it?
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Well, I mean in principle, you might Say that but keep in mind
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that the government can then lean on the courts to find in
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their favor for this stuff and I would love to see it.
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I would love to see the entire country.
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Basically stick stick up the middle finger and say.
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No, let's go Brandon. But yeah, the problem though is
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that 50% of this country, almost fifty percent of this country is
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scared bleep, less over covid and thinks that this is the
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entirety of the end of the world and they're going to bleat like
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sheep and do whatever. The government tells them to do.
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That's sad, but it does appear to be where we are.
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Today we are seeing some protests in front of these local
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contractors offices and work locations.
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I don't know how huge they're getting but there are.
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There are pocket protectors mechanical pencils compasses
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protractors and the occasional slide.
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We will all over the street. Well, you're just just leaning
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on the Nerds today, aren't you? Well, you what can I tell you?
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Dave? Bowman with us.
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Owen from the day, Bowman Show podcast.
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Joins us this morning. Dave with protests in the like
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I'm guessing. This is not going to be
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extremely effective and it's a shame.
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I would like to see something effective happen here.
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It's not going to be effective until the day that it's much
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more, massive and less informational.
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But, you know, I mean, everything starts small bill.
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That's that's the line from one of my favorite movies,
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everything starts small, and maybe I think the momentum let's
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get a quick call in. We go to line one your up with
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Bill and Dave. Good morning.
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Hey guys, one of the things, the scariest things I ever saw was.
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They had another scientist Chinese scientists that turn and
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says, oh, oh, oh this this virus.
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And and he was, he was a minute about about them intentionally.
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Releasing it and knowingly, spreading it all over the world,
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which is probably true. Look in the actions, the China,
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I mean, they isolated their capital and then they were okay.
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The points they okay, okay. The point is they have another
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virus on hand nothing to do with this one, but it's 80% kill,
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roadkill, kill Factor. Okay.
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Not exactly where we're living today, but I appreciate you
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throwing it out there. David does raise the question
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watch next. What's the next vaccine?
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They're going to mandate for you me or otherwise.
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Well Lord, what's the next virus to come along?
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What's the next thing to scare us?
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I mean this is, this is the point we've reached now with
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government is we go Governed by fear and we need control.
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And so I don't know. I mean is it going to be AIDS
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like the caller suggested last hour?
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I don't know that it would be AIDS, I think people have kind
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of gotten past that and you know, the survivability of AIDS
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has become fairly High anyway now.
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So there's going to come a time though.
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When there's going to be something that scares everybody
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and that's what it will be. I don't know.
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I'm not a fortune tellers, I don't really know.
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Yeah, yeah, I get that. And I understand what tell you
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You know, I'm a big, Dave Chappelle fan.
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I really like what he's been doing lately and he's taking a
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When we continue the time is 826.
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This Governor government contractor angst and and
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mandates on their employees is the employee angst.
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Not the tractors. I think they, let's get a quick
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call in on that before. We move to some of these other.
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Things Olin is in Palm Bay Olin. Good morning.
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Hey, good morning, Dave. And good morning to you too,
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Bill. Yes, sir, Bill.
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We've been discussing the covid and the vaccine and the
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government response to it and it got me to thinking about Last
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American hero. Ronald Reagan, I got to thinking
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what would Ronald Reagan had done in the similar situation
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when he was elected? The economy was in a shambles
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and one of his most famous speeches was when he said, you
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know, in our certain circumstances, the government is
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not the answer to our problems. The government is the problem.
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Uh-huh. I think I think Reagan would
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have handled this much. Differently and the American
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people don't trust our government.
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They don't like our government and they probably never will.
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So whatever the government wants you to do.
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You want to do the opposite. You know what, Owen, Dave?
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And I were talking about that in the break, Dave.
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I'll let you speak to that for just a minute before we move on
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to other things. Well, and, and, and while
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there's some truth to that, I think Reagan would have handled
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a different, but then again, pretty much every president
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would have handled it differently.
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We've never had a president. Okay, let me back that up.
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We've had presidents but they were restrained by other
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elements. We've never had a president who
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feels like he can get away with some of the things he's getting
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away with and it's all based on fear bill.
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It's 100% based on the fact that he has a an electoral plurality
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that is living in fear if he ever loses that plurality his
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ability to win an election, things will change.
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That's why I mean I I hate the phrase, the twenty two twenty,
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twenty two, midterms are important.
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They're not the most important election ever but that's going
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to be the seminal moment that really is that will tell us
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whether this country is going to get its head on straight or
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whether we're going to continue to operate as essentially, a
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dictatorial to tyranny. I mean that's that's where we're
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headed King Joseph, the first as we look at this, the other
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element that I think Owen mentioned that is important is
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Because of what's occurred in the how the government has
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mishandled. This coronavirus thing we have
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lost faith in the government Health machine in government, in
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general. If we had much Faith there to
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start with, it has eroded horribly during the last 18
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months, or so faster, than its been eroding in the previous,
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you know, generation to Generations.
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This is a common complaint Among Us government types.
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And media types is that the public is losing trust in us.
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Well, instead of blaming the Flick for losing trust in you.
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Why don't you analyze why they're losing trust in you and
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and deal with it? Yeah, right.
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But there's an inability in government.
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There's an inability in everybody bill, but particularly
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in government to not really be able to admit a mistake.
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And when you're the size of the federal government of the United
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States, you figure you can buy your way out of anything.
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So I they're unlikely to ever look at this and go.
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Hey, maybe we should get rid of some of these people who are
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causing people. Lose trust in US.
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It's like they've never heard of a PR firm.
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I mean it really is. Yeah, or yeah, exactly.
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Right. Dave.
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with us, Dave, you gave us a good opportunity to transition
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into this story talking about the government and its reaction.
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And what it's doing, we are reacting in large part to the
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squeaky wheel, the group that wins that they're being
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oppressed or whatever. And I don't know about you, but
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I'm a big, Dave, Chappelle fan when it comes to comedian.
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I find that as though he is vulgar in much of what he says.
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He's also very honest and his observations about society.
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And one of the things that he has Adan he's even received
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accolades from some in the transgender Community, for being
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honest about this is what gender is and one transgender activists
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used to go see his shows as he would perform them in clubs
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around California. Getting it ready to take to the
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Big Show's. As said, look, when you make fun
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of me, you validate me. You make me an actual part of
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society. Others are calling him
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transphobic because he stands on the idea.
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That gender is a two-person thing MBC news hit.
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Talked about government and media and that they
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responsibility, they have, they're calling him transphobic.
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They, they cite things that are very miniscule in nature.
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And we're going after honest, speech, including some of the
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funniest in the land. How are you reading that?
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Landscape pancakes, Bill pancakes.
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I love dick Chappell. I have to be careful about
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watching him though because I it's not something I want been,
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you know, exposed to yet someday.
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Yeah. Yeah, right.
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So I've had a couple of times in here work, but watching him and
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just falling on the floor, laughing and had to stop because
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he comes in. What's so funny.
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Dad. Yeah, but but really, this is
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surprise anybody bill right now. They're going after Dave
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Chappelle because he's daring to say something that we believe.
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If he was saying something we didn't believe what would our
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reaction being our reaction would be who cares.
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But yeah people and I laugh at Laughs, but comedy directed at
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people like you and me and those of us on the right, it can be
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funny. There are some creative people
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across the Spectrum and I find humor where humor exists, you
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know, I used to love Doonesbury and and people get mad at me.
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You're a conservative trout. Drill holes.
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How can you love Doonesbury? Because it's funny.
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Yeah, but the bottom line is, at no point.
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Is that ever occurred to me to make somebody else shut up
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because I didn't like what they were saying, but we live in a
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society where at least 50% of the people or poor.
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Morality of people think that that's the solution.
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Well, if I don't like what they're saying, we should just
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make them shut up. And to the degree that Dave
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Chappelle is resisting. This is fantastic.
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I support him. I would buy his DVDs to continue
19:45
to support him except that, you know, I really don't like to
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spend money on stuff I can get for free.
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So yeah at what point do we reach where people start saying
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to themselves? Just go away, just shut up.
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Who cares. It's a Joke, it's funny.
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But you can't even enjoy from humor and move on.
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Stop being ready to be offended at the slightest thing.
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Let's cancel, Columbus, never quit.
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Couple of notes here, before we have to break the whole Urban
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Meyer thing has gone. Plumb stupid.
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Now as the mom of the grinding girl, dancing on Urban's, lap
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has decided that her daughter's now in Jeopardy because of this,
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and she's really concerned about her daughter.
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I wonder if she was concerned. When she was raising a daughter
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who would decide she would approach a guy who's 30 years
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older than she is and start doing what she can to arouse him
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at a club. Yeah, boy.
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There's so many questions about this but at the end of the day,
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it's Urban Meyer. Who's you know, he's asleep
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back. His job may be in Jeopardy.
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Anyway, I can't believe he still has a job.
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Think it's already what? 9:00 almost on the East Coast.
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I can't believe he has a job still.
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I was fully Expecting him to be fired this morning.
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Yeah. And then, of course, we had
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Madonna crawling on, Jimmy Fallon's desk.
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On The Tonight Show, we are a society that's eating up with
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this kind of stuff, and we watch it.
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So, why are we not? Why are we surprised at all?
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Dave, Bowman with us. We've got one more segment to
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get to and we're back in moments on Bill, make live.
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Billy Joel's, We Didn't Start the fight or be more
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appropriate, Bumper Music, as we come back into the show, Dave
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Bowman with us from Silverdale Washington, the host of
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plausibly live today Bowman Show podcast available on the
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iHeartRadio at make sure you catch up with that.
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When you can't I've given you a link that bill mc.com and on the
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wmm be Look, Paige. Davis actually posted some links
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to the video of the show this morning regarding our topic in
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the first segment of the, our one of move on to something
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else. So that's in Dave's wheelhouse.
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As the McPherson Financial Group brings you this hour the show,
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Dave is a former. Well, he's a Navy submarine
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veteran. Dave.
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How long did you spend working in on around submarine?
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Wow, I know, you enjoyed that time and you often lament, you
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would like to be doing it again. A little Beyond us these days,
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but I can understand the love of something like that.
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We've got a story that ties your former submarine life and my
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native land of West Virginia and submarines together.
22:39
Although I doubt there's ever been a submarine in West
22:42
Virginia anywhere other than a little one-man job in a river
22:44
somewhere. And it's an interesting story
22:49
apparently from appalled socket. The Blaze linked up for you.
22:52
Bill mc.com a u.s. Navy nuclear engineer and his
22:56
wife now charged with trying to sell nuclear submarine secrets,
23:00
to what they thought was a foreign power and they were
23:04
doing it electronically. Apparently, initially sending
23:06
messages to what they sent messages to what they thought
23:10
was a foreign power and it ended up in the hands of the FBI.
23:13
And this couple has now, been arrested in West Virginia for
23:16
doing It there were using West Virginia as at least a couple of
23:19
dead drop locations for the secret or restricted information
23:24
that they had about nuclear subs.
23:27
I know you had a chance to look at the story.
23:28
Give me your thoughts. Oh, submarine.
23:30
Are you? Well, let me caveat anything.
23:33
I say as completely unofficial and unclassified.
23:38
It's all open source, so I have no special knowledge, but we can
23:43
go with that. That works.
23:44
I have a particular. For spies I was in.
23:50
I was actually at Sea when they arrested John Walker back in the
23:54
80s, and it wasn't until years later that I really understood
23:59
the damage that he caused. And I'm not sure people today,
24:04
really understand that the funny part about, that was my
24:08
executive officer commanders name was John Walker as well.
24:12
So we used to give him crap about that on a pretty regular
24:15
basis, but There's something just despicable about a person
24:19
who would sell secrets for money.
24:22
And what we're going to find out is that this guy and this is
24:25
pure speculation on my part. This guy and his wife got in
24:28
over their head financially and the only thing he had of any
24:33
value is knowledge about nuclear reactors.
24:35
Sorry, nuclear reactors. And he, he, you know, he didn't
24:42
learn the lesson from anybody else that didn't get away with
24:44
this and thought, well, I'm smarter than they are.
24:46
And So that's why he's sitting in jail right now and he's
24:49
probably going to rot there for the rest of his life and good
24:52
riddance. As far as I'm concerned.
24:53
It was the guy at the FBI. Robert something-or-another that
24:57
did the spying and was driven. At least from what I've seen and
25:01
understood about it by a wife. He was trying to financially
25:04
keep happy. Yeah.
25:05
I mean that's that's what happens a lot of times as these
25:08
guys get into financial distress.
25:10
They get they they overextend themselves.
25:13
And then and the thing they think is that they're going to
25:16
make millions. He's doing this and and they're
25:18
not there. The Russians, particularly are
25:20
notoriously cheap. They don't they don't like to.
25:23
They don't like to pay people a lot of money because they
25:26
figure, they got people lined up to give them information, you
25:28
know, supply and demand. It's just, it's just sad in a
25:33
lot of ways, but it's angering in a lot of ways.
25:36
It's easy to say, well, his wife, you know, he was just
25:39
using his wife as a lookout. But, you know, I'm just going to
25:42
go out on the limb and say she's probably is involved in this as
25:45
anything else because She knew what they were spending.
25:49
My wife knows what I spend. So there's no way she didn't
25:52
know what he spent. It is a question, Dave.
25:55
Yeah, I have access to her accounts to.
25:56
So, so, yeah, let me, let me throw out the beginning of this
26:01
thing. Because I think it's kind of
26:02
interesting how these people who think they're smarter than
26:05
everybody else who've done. It aren't really smart at all.
26:07
The Espionage investigation began in December of 2020.
26:11
When an FBI official received a package sent to a foreign
26:14
country that contain Documents a desire to begin a covert
26:19
relationship and instructions on using encrypted Communications,
26:24
according to the report from the New York Post.
26:27
So here's this rookie wannabe spy telling an intelligence
26:32
agency, how to communicate and sending it to the FBI not where
26:38
he thought it was going to go. If you are a rookie in this
26:42
world given instructions to people who spy for a living
26:46
thing. Like a really bad way to start
26:48
the relationship. Yeah, it just the amateur label
26:53
is all over this guy and yet at the same time.
26:56
He what is he 42? So he's either, he's either just
26:59
retired or close to retiring as an engineer.
27:03
I just I'm appalled by it. And what I'm really what I
27:06
really hate about it is again, the information that they're
27:09
leaking might seem on the surface to be innocuous, but
27:14
it's a, it's a data point and when you start Putting the data
27:17
points together, you can achieve a lot of information and this is
27:20
what happened with Walker and all of a sudden our deterrent
27:25
systems and our Naval systems that protect us.
27:30
Or at risk. And that that's the definition
27:34
of a traitor. That's the definition of of that
27:37
sort of thing. And I just it's it.
27:41
I'm not a huge supporter of the death penalty, but it might be
27:43
time to bring back firing squads.
27:46
You know, for things like this, I would be wholeheartedly in
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Dave, when you, when you see a story like this, is it make you
28:59
wonder how much of this is going on, how many people are trying
29:02
to are either manipulated into this because they have
29:06
vulnerabilities that a foreign government would like to exploit
29:10
or for the financial reasons that we were talking about with
29:13
this couple that it appears you. How many people are getting
29:17
involved in something like this, you know, in my day, I was
29:19
pretty optimistic about it. And until the Walker thing
29:23
happened. In my time.
29:25
We had a thing called, The PRP personal reliability program.
29:29
There was a lot of emphasis on security.
29:32
There was a lot of emphasis on well, I joke about this, but
29:36
there was a time when I went three months without getting a
29:39
speeding ticket. Okay, and that was unusual for
29:43
me. I actually got an interview with
29:45
the diligence people because they wanted to know what had
29:48
changed in my life that I wasn't getting speeding tickets
29:51
anymore. Okay, and there was a lot of
29:56
that kind of mentality about security.
29:59
You didn't talk about things, you didn't, you didn't discuss
30:02
these things nowadays. I don't get that same sense.
30:06
I have some contact with Sailors today because I live near the
30:08
base and I'm, there are times when I'm just appalled, with
30:12
what gets posted on social media and likes it out.
30:15
I Just the just the speculation about what happened to
30:19
Connecticut. The other day is, is it's scary
30:22
to me. But there's there's also so much
30:26
more Temptation these days financially than there was when
30:31
I was younger, I guess I don't know.
30:32
And the whole get-rich-quick schemes The Tick-Tock element of
30:38
this the social media elements of this.
30:41
It's not even necessarily evil intent.
30:45
It just sloppy. Us in some cases and that
30:47
terrifies me when it comes to talking about National Defense,
30:52
Yeah, I can understand it. You mentioned the Connecticut.
30:55
We had a sub last week. For those of you who weren't
30:58
clued in that hit something while submerged in traveling, at
31:03
whatever rate of speed. It was traveling at, that was
31:04
some matter of speculation in the initial stories.
31:07
Dave. I know you follow these kind of
31:09
stories closely. And again, we're in the realm of
31:11
speculation here, but there are possibilities another sub
31:17
wreckage or something that is down.
31:19
There may be a poorly mapped. Area of the ocean floor that
31:24
they could have been close to debris in the water, like, I
31:28
guess plastic, or what? Or even a biological type thing
31:33
a whale or other sea creature. That could have been part of the
31:36
contact here. You were down there.
31:38
You live. This a what's it like when this
31:41
occurs and be just speculation on what you think?
31:45
The likelihood is what happened under water with that summer,
31:48
you know, I didn't know this until the other day, but since
31:52
February in the South China Sea 2,900 of those shipping
31:57
containers that that ship stuff from China to here, have been
32:00
lost overboard and they don't necessarily sink depending on
32:06
what's in them. They might float.
32:08
They might sink to the bottom or they might achieve some sort of
32:10
neutral buoyancy, and being floating somewhere in the
32:13
middle. The speculation, is that?
32:17
That's a possibility. I mean, again, I wasn't there.
32:19
I don't know my purse. Pet Theory because I think it's
32:23
so cool. And and the hockey season starts
32:27
tomorrow, is I'm rooting for the Kraken.
32:29
I'm really hoping that this was a giant squid that just grabbed
32:32
her and said, hey, let's let's dance because I think how cool
32:38
funny. But beyond that.
32:40
No, I don't, I don't think we ever hit was the surface when
32:43
you hit a, a biological entity down there.
32:47
No. Because at that speed, biologic
32:49
whales are smarter than that, they get out of the way doll.
32:51
Orphans love to swim along with us, especially on the surface.
32:55
You post the other day, that was great.
32:57
Now whales are smarter than that.
32:59
The only rumor I've ever heard about a submarine hitting a
33:02
whale was during the 80s. There was a rumor that a Soviet
33:07
Alpha class submarine, the fastest submarine ever built was
33:11
running at full speed, which essentially makes you blind.
33:14
You can't hear anything and, and caught a whale, you know,
33:18
broadside do the, they hit the whale head on Sideways.
33:22
But you know, I have nobody has any way of confirming that
33:24
nobody is and but that's that's the only rumor I've ever heard
33:29
of a biologic actually being hit by a submarine.
33:32
Now they'll occasionally bump you they like to come up to you
33:36
and talk to you and like so that but but they're not really
33:39
interested in in running into you or being run over by you.
33:44
And for those of you who haven't heard Des podcast, the de
33:47
Beaumont show.com, you can find it on the iHeartRadio app.
33:50
You did a very interesting. Podcast regarding submarines in
33:54
the like last week. And I really enjoyed that.
33:56
Well, I appreciate that. I don't remember which one it
33:58
was. The time goes so fast.
34:00
They'll sometimes I don't remember what I talked about
34:02
yesterday sometimes and I lost it.
34:04
I lost the topic just as I was bringing it up, but if you are a
34:08
veteran yourself, if you are interested in these types of
34:11
things go research Dave's podcast last week and there are
34:16
a long list on the website. You can you can find the one I'm
34:19
referencing here and I'm trying to remember ago, you were
34:21
talking Out to Soviet sub that had surfaced after an incident
34:25
where you can already talk to your commander into not having
34:27
to do this training anymore and all of a sudden seems like you
34:30
need to do that kind of training.
34:32
Yeah. That was that was a whale of a
34:33
day, October 5th 1986. Now that's Soviet Boomer
34:37
surfaced off Bermuda, and there's a lot of other there.
34:41
There's a lot of things in that story that are underlying the
34:45
surface that people don't catch like hey, there's a Soviet
34:50
Boomer off. Bermuda.
34:53
And if you're thinking about that, you kind of go, it's not
34:56
Bermuda. They were interested in is the
34:58
point. Yeah, and there's some other
35:01
elements of that, that I mean, what's the flight time of a
35:03
missile, from Bermuda to Washington DC, and it's a lot
35:08
shorter than then, the normal 36 minutes of nominal flight time.
35:13
So there's a lot of things in that story that were never
35:17
really fully discussed, but man for me I tell you that was And
35:22
then with what happened with us, you know, less than three weeks
35:25
later. It was it was a little unnerving
35:28
time for me, and you can catch the story at Dave Bowman
35:32
show.com, Dave. We are at the end of the hour my
35:35
friend. Thank you.
35:36
Always enjoyable. Look forward to talking to you
35:38
next week, holiday or not pal. All right.
35:41
Enjoy your Columbus Day tomorrow, everybody.
35:42
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35:44
There you go. That'll be good.
35:46
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