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Best of Ian Furness 10/1 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: An NFL color analyst for both CBS and Westwood One,
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  Speaker 1: who you can follow on social media at Ross Tucker NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Now, here's Ian with Ross Tucker. Ross Tucker joins us
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  Speaker 2: every week. Big thanks to our friends at Northwest Handling Systems.
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  Speaker 2: And again, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. NFL
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  Speaker 2: color analyst for both CBS this Sunday and Westwood One tonight.
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  Speaker 2: You can follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Might be, along with Kevin Harlan, might be the busiest
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  Speaker 2: man in NFL broadcasting right now. The two of you guys,
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  Speaker 2: I know you're all working together, but you're all over
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  Speaker 2: the place every weekend. But I think he's probably loving
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  Speaker 2: what you're doing. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 3: I am absolutely loving what I'm doing. I am doing fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Always good to hear your voice in. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think Kevin has me beat because he does every Monday
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  Speaker 3: for Westwood one. Whereas I do not do every Thursday,
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  Speaker 3: although Kurt Warner is doing the London game on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm actually doing triple duty this weekend. I'm actually,
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  Speaker 3: after I do the Bills game Sunday, I'll be flying
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  Speaker 3: down to New Orleans to do Falcon Saints with Kevin
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  Speaker 3: on Monday. So I got them beat this weekend. I
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  Speaker 3: have the rare, the very rare triple header.
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  Speaker 2: That's, man, I thought I was busy. I do Kraken
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  Speaker 2: hockey TV and we start tonight. And I thought I
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  Speaker 2: had a busy time with three games in four days
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  Speaker 2: and a radio show, but I'm not, I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: all over the place like you are right now. So
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  Speaker 2: you're a busy man, but great. It'd be great to
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  Speaker 2: hear in the call, by the way, our game tonight
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  Speaker 2: because of the cracking over on the nine 50 side
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  Speaker 2: on the AM dial and the I heart radio app
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  Speaker 2: as well for Russ. I got to ask you this
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  Speaker 2: because we talked about food in the press boxes a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. And I mentioned this, Ashley mentioned
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  Speaker 2: this to me in the last segment about Cleveland and
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  Speaker 2: the dog pound and, I've been there. I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was a little bit out of control
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  Speaker 2: at times, but I thought it was pretty cool. And
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  Speaker 2: then there's a good part of the food I'll get
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  Speaker 2: to in a second. But I know they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: build a new stadium, but how would you describe, because
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  Speaker 2: every fan base thinks they're the best in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: how would you describe the Cleveland Browns fan base?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny that you say that because I do
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  Speaker 3: do a weekly in Cleveland every week. And I have
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  Speaker 3: said for a long time that I think they have
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  Speaker 3: a really, really strong argument for being the best fans
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL. Because if you think about since they returned,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is, 1999, if you think about how bad
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  Speaker 3: they've been and how little return on investment they've gotten
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  Speaker 3: and yet how diehard they remain as It is extremely,
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  Speaker 3: extremely impressive. I mean, I'm blown away by their loyalty.
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  Speaker 3: I can't say enough about it. You know, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of Browns fans. They live and die with this team.
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  Speaker 3: Even like this year, I think they know that the
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  Speaker 3: Browns aren't really good. I think they know that the
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  Speaker 3: Browns aren't really gonna do anything of consequence this year,
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  Speaker 3: but they still live and die with every decision. They
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  Speaker 3: care so much. It's, it's really endearing. It really is.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I, you know, there's, there's lots of good
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  Speaker 3: fan bases out there. Certainly where I'm from, the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: have a great fan base and others, but a lot
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  Speaker 3: of them you know, those teams are successful. Those teams
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  Speaker 3: are playing primetime games. A lot of times those teams are,
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  Speaker 3: you know, playoff posts. Cleveland is like, for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: pretty much none of that. I mean, that, that, that,
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  Speaker 3: like those things are not happening and yet they are
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  Speaker 3: still this loyal, this diehard just to get a win,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just to, just to get a win, to
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  Speaker 3: be able to enjoy it. It's, um, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love them. And I'm looking forward to the night.
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  Speaker 3: They have this weird thing. You can hear it on
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  Speaker 3: the TV where they bang on like the top of like,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's right above the press box. There's like
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  Speaker 3: these metal things and they bang on it the whole game. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So forget the dog pound. It's that part of it
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  Speaker 3: that I feel like is really unique slash maybe a
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  Speaker 3: little bit annoying. But certainly in that category. It's funny, though.
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  Speaker 3: You'll appreciate this, Ian. One time in 2004, I was
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  Speaker 3: playing for the Buffalo Bills at Oakland Alameda Coliseum against
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  Speaker 3: the Raiders. And, you know, I thought about the black hole,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the very well-known Raiders fans in the end zone. And,
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  Speaker 3: of course, that's where the away team is. you know,
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  Speaker 3: warms up. And I thought, you know what? It was
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  Speaker 3: my fourth year. It was my first time playing there.
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  Speaker 3: I had never been there before.
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  Speaker 4: And I, and I recognized, I was pretty.
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  Speaker 3: Well aware of my career mortality and knowing that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: every year was a year to year thing. Right. So
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  Speaker 3: I went during pregame warmups, I went right to the
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  Speaker 3: black hole and I got like five feet away, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, is this it? Is this all you
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  Speaker 3: guys got? I thought there'd be more than this.
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  Speaker 4: And they all start screaming at me. You know, the
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  Speaker 4: guys with the shoulder pads and the spikes, they're all
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  Speaker 4: reaching and grabbing out and trying to get after me. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I was just far enough where they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: do it. But, like, I wanted the full experience. I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to get the full experience.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Raiders black hole experience, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Feel like I got it. You did. You got it
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  Speaker 2: all right there. Yeah, the full experience in Oakland, too,
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  Speaker 2: is also– I did live shots there. We're doing our
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  Speaker 2: pregame shows for preseason games and regular season games. We
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  Speaker 2: do live shots next to the dugouts for baseball. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and the thoughts of like, there is, is it sewage
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  Speaker 2: or what is that weird water that we're standing in
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 5: Always was there.
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  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, the, the, that, that place had its charm.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned that in Cleveland. I just looked it up.
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  Speaker 2: I grabbed my phone. October 13th, 2019 was the last
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  Speaker 2: time I was there. And the, the thing that stood
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  Speaker 2: out two things, one, the press box. So you're in
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  Speaker 2: the broadcast booth. The rest of us, uh, media guys,
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  Speaker 2: the press box, it go, the, the, the stands go
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  Speaker 2: right up to the glass on the press box. And
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  Speaker 2: I got a picture of this guy before the game was,
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  Speaker 2: he got there an hour and a half beforehand. Ross,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating when I say this fella had at
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  Speaker 2: least six or seven clear cocktails, looked like a vodka crayon,
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  Speaker 2: like he was going hard. And the whole time, pounding
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  Speaker 2: the glass, pounding that, what you mentioned, that metal there underneath.
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  Speaker 2: I found it fun at first, then annoying, and then
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  Speaker 2: kind of fun again and laughing about it. Because then
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  Speaker 2: the dude had, you'll love this, halftime, well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: better slow it down, better switch. So he switched to
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  Speaker 2: like mega beers instead. And it wasn't just him. It
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  Speaker 2: was a whole section. And that stood out. And the
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  Speaker 2: stadium mustard that they have there for halftime, the stadium
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  Speaker 2: mustard is phenomenal. That was actually awesome. Yeah, in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: It's called the authentic stadium mustard. And I'm not usually
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  Speaker 2: a halftime eat guy. But this guy, like, I went, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to try this. And the mustard was sensational.
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  Speaker 2: And they have, like, kind of the guys that kind
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  Speaker 2: of oversee the press box, these older gentlemen. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling him, that mustard's unbelievable. He goes, you like it?
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  Speaker 6: I go, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He said, can you get it in Seattle? I go, no,
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen it before. Five minutes later, the guy
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  Speaker 2: comes back, and he's got a full unopened bottle and says,
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  Speaker 2: take this back with you. Like, the hospitality just stood out.
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  Speaker 2: Between dude man firing off at, like, six or seven
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  Speaker 2: hard cocktails before the game, switching to beer and that,
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  Speaker 2: I want to go back to Cleveland. I loved it there.
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  Speaker 6: It was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: That, that is awesome. I'll try to get some of
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  Speaker 3: the stadium sauce. Yeah. Um, that's, that's amazing. And, uh,
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  Speaker 3: what I remember from the last time I was here
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  Speaker 3: is they have like, um, their, their soda brand is RC.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes, it is. Which is like, which is like,
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea that RC Cola still existed. I
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  Speaker 3: like not believe that RC Cola was actually still a thing.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is in Cleveland. Ross Tucker joining us, brought
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  Speaker 2: on tonight's game. We do a thing called Factor Fiction.
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  Speaker 2: It's agree or disagree with the host for a contest
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  Speaker 2: we do at the show every day at 235. I
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  Speaker 2: picked Cleveland. They're a home underdog, plus two and a half.
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  Speaker 2: I picked Cleveland in this game. Part of it is
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  Speaker 2: because we don't like the Steelers out here. We're still
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  Speaker 2: bitter about the Super Bowl years ago. But I picked Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're a fun story. Give us a little
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  Speaker 2: feel for what you're going to think to see tonight.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think it's going to be an awesome game.
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  Speaker 3: I love the fact that one of these teams is
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  Speaker 3: going to be three and one after this game. The
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  Speaker 3: Browns have really picked it up on defense the last
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  Speaker 3: two weeks. They've been much better than they were week
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  Speaker 3: one against Jacksonville. And then Deshaun Watson has just been clutch.
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  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson has played his best football in the fourth
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  Speaker 3: quarter when it mattered most. He has back-to-back game-winning touchdown drives.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of cool. I mean, the guy, after five years,
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  Speaker 3: he's finally going to do it in the last year
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  Speaker 3: of his contract. And he's moving around like he did
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  Speaker 3: when he was in Houston. He looks athletic moving around
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  Speaker 3: the field. It's really, really surprising and impressive. And that's
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  Speaker 3: their combo right now. Their combo is really good defense.
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  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson using his legs and making enough plays late
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  Speaker 3: for them to be able to win these games. And
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  Speaker 3: then for the Steelers, I had their game on Sunday
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  Speaker 3: for CBS. And they were, they were awesome in that
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  Speaker 3: game offensively, especially, I mean, burrow carved them up a
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  Speaker 3: little bit and they were fortunate that the Bengals had
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  Speaker 3: two major, major special teams errors, which probably ended up
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  Speaker 3: being the difference in the outcome of the game. But
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  Speaker 3: after not being able to move the ball all the
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  Speaker 3: first two weeks, The Steelers were able to move it
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  Speaker 3: very effectively, over 400 yards of offense.
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  Speaker 4: Guys were open.
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  Speaker 3: They were scheming guys up. Rodgers played well. He can
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  Speaker 3: still move better than I would have thought at this age,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought he was pretty impressive in that game
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  Speaker 3: last week. So I think it's going to be an
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  Speaker 3: awesome game. I don't think there will be a ton
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  Speaker 3: of points. I think it will be 20 to 17,
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  Speaker 3: something like that, but a good, fun game that can
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  Speaker 3: go either way.
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  Speaker 2: Our team last week loses in Washington to the Commanders
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  Speaker 2: and Marcus Mariota. Turnovers probably, you just talked about special
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  Speaker 2: teams in the game with Pittsburgh last week in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 2: Felt like a lot of us out here kind of
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  Speaker 2: looked at that game and said, well, you turn the
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  Speaker 2: ball over that many times, you lose that turnover battle 3-0,
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  Speaker 2: you're probably going to lose a football game. Jadarian Price, though,
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  Speaker 2: had another turnover, two fumbles in two weeks, was benched
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  Speaker 2: for a while. Just some quick thoughts from you on
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  Speaker 2: Seattle and where they are at 2-1 after that loss
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  Speaker 2: to the Commanders.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, it was just kind of one
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  Speaker 3: of those games. You know, if you watch that game,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you come away from it thinking the
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  Speaker 3: commanders are the better team.
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  Speaker 6: I think they made some really nice plays.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the McLaurin touchdown catch was really good.
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  Speaker 3: They made some other plays. Give them credit for that.
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  Speaker 3: And there was the turnovers. I mean, the problem with
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  Speaker 3: the price fumble is this.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's a known fumbler. And you know this. And
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  Speaker 3: what that means is he is going to be a
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  Speaker 3: marked man. They are going to try to attack the
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  Speaker 3: ball every time he has it, which just makes it
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  Speaker 3: even harder. Because now, you know, they all know he'll fumble.
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  Speaker 3: So they're all going to be trying to rip it
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  Speaker 3: out even more than they already would be. He's going
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  Speaker 3: to be more conscious of it. He's going to be
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  Speaker 3: more careful. Does that affect him as a runner? Does
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  Speaker 3: it make him less explosive because he's so afraid of
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  Speaker 3: losing the ball? There's just a lot that goes into
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  Speaker 3: it at that point for a young player. And then obviously...
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  Speaker 3: Not a good throw by Darnold on the interception, and
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  Speaker 3: Medrano made a really, really nice play. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 3: watched that a couple times. He barely caught that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it was like not even the back half of the ball.
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  Speaker 3: He caught the back quarter of the ball. It was
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  Speaker 3: actually super impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. I want to go back to
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  Speaker 2: Darnold Price. You've been in those rooms afterwards, and what
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  Speaker 2: you said there resonates a little bit. Yeah, I know
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  Speaker 2: every team knows that. He's a known fumbler after three
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  Speaker 2: games into his NFL career, two straight and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: Every coach is different. We can't get inside Mike McDonald's head,
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  Speaker 2: but how hard is it to earn trust back from
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  Speaker 2: a coaching staff or even teammates when you're, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: the known fumbler?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the good news for him is he was the
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  Speaker 3: first round pick. And also, they don't really have anybody
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  Speaker 3: else like him. Now, I think I saw, are they
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  Speaker 3: getting Charbonnet back this week?
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  Speaker 2: No, his window opened for his coming off PUP. He's
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  Speaker 2: got 21 days. He can't play anyway. This will be
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  Speaker 2: game four, so The earliest he could play would be
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  Speaker 2: next week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just saw that pop up on my feed
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. So they need him. So they need to
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  Speaker 3: support him, and they need to have confidence in him.
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  Speaker 3: And he's a first-round pick. If this was a guy
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  Speaker 3: that was a fourth-round pick or a little bit different
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  Speaker 3: or a guy that, you know, some veteran that was
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  Speaker 3: on the cheap, it might be a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: But they've invested too much time. to just drop him.
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  Speaker 3: They need to help him work through this.
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  Speaker 6: Totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: Ross Tucker joining us. I'm going to get your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on a couple other things. Rams and Eagles, two teams
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  Speaker 2: you know well, Eagles especially. Rams are 1-2. Watching them play,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would be worried necessarily, but losses
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL are not a good thing if they
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  Speaker 2: start to accumulate. They go to the Eagles who are
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  Speaker 2: 2-1 this season coming off that loss to Chicago. Kind
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  Speaker 2: of a pivotal game for both teams.
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  Speaker 3: Huge game for both teams. And interestingly, you know, on
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  Speaker 3: Tuesdays on the Ross Tucker football podcast, I do my
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  Speaker 3: power rankings. I still have the Rams as a top
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  Speaker 3: five team. I'm not one of these guys that just
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  Speaker 3: looks at the record and says, oh, the Vikings are 3-0.
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  Speaker 3: The Rams are 1-2. That means the Vikings are better.
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  Speaker 3: That means the Raiders are better. No, it doesn't. Who
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  Speaker 3: you play matters. How the game unfolds matters. I still
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  Speaker 3: think the Rams are awfully good. Sounds like they're getting
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  Speaker 3: Puka Nakua back. I do a lot of stuff in Philly,
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  Speaker 3: including the Ross Report social media where I predict the
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  Speaker 3: outcome of the game. at Ross Tucker NFL, it's not
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  Speaker 3: that often just because they've been so good that I
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  Speaker 3: predict the Eagles to lose, but I have them losing
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  Speaker 3: this one. I think that the Rams are going to
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  Speaker 3: win the game. The Eagles have beaten them four straight times,
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  Speaker 3: and that sounds great, and it is, but that's not
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  Speaker 3: going to continue forever. And so to ask them to
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  Speaker 3: beat them five straight times, to ask them to knock
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  Speaker 3: the Rams down to one and three, It's certainly possible,
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  Speaker 3: and it feels like a tossed-up game, but something's a
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  Speaker 3: little off with the Eagles to start this season, and
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  Speaker 3: because of that, I think the Rams win the game.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're both 2-2 after this one.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. Maybe it wasn't the DV receiver where something was off.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of that, the Patriots and Bills. Last one I
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  Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts on on this. Last year's
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  Speaker 2: AFC champion, 1-2, the Patriots. So you should be able
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  Speaker 2: to get, oh, no, you're going to take on Buffalo.
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  Speaker 2: You have that game, I think, on CBS. Mike Vrabel
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  Speaker 2: and company, it's getting a little dicey there.
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  Speaker 3: It is, and for a bunch of different reasons. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: no A.J. Brown has really hurt them. They were really
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  Speaker 3: counting on him, obviously. You know, I think I've read
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  Speaker 3: and heard so much already this week about what the
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  Speaker 3: issues are with Drake May and is it his shoulder,
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  Speaker 3: is it just his confidence, blah, blah, blah. It's never
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  Speaker 3: one thing, you know? I mean, without A.J. Brown, their
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  Speaker 3: receivers are pretty pedestrian. It's not like they're running the
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  Speaker 3: ball all that effectively. They're playing way better defenses. You know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: last year he put up huge numbers against by far
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: the easiest schedule in the NFL, and they were driving
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: the ball down the field. His mobility was awesome. People
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: have a little bit of a better bead now on
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: how to play him and how you need to attack him.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: and they're playing a lot more zone. They're trying to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: make him take his time, and he's losing patience. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: do think he's lost some confidence a little bit. So
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: it's a bad combination right now of they're playing much better.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, think about the playoffs. Jesse Minter in the Chargers,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: the Texans, the Broncos, maybe the two best defenses, and
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: then the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. And then this year, Seahawks. Steelers, Jaguars.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I think all of them, if they're not all top
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: 10 defenses, they're at least in the running. I think
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: it's a combination of a bunch of different things.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Have a great call tonight, Sunday, and Monday, Ross. On
• 18:58
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• 19:00
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• 19:02
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• 19:03
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• 19:07
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• 19:09
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• 19:12
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• 19:22
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• 19:26
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• 19:39
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Ross, thanks so much. We'll talk to you next week.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: All right, see you.
• 19:43
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• 19:45
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• 19:51
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• 22:04
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Just go back. And we're going to
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: get into him in a second. Jadarian Price was Seattle's
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: first-round pick. We were doing our pre-draft stuff with you,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and it was a ton of fun. I know you
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: love the roster build, and really the only roster build
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: for Seattle was kind of that, was the draft for
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the most part when it was all said and done.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price, your thoughts when he was picked and your
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: thoughts through the first three games? I know here there's
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: a concern over fumbles, but what have you seen from
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks rookie running back?
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, two fumbles, that's a lot in three games. So,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: you know, you prorate that for the season and it's,
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: you know, historic records. So it's tough to, you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: it's a tough start from that perspective. But I think
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: at the time when he was drafted, we knew Seattle had, what,
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: four picks going into the draft. We knew that they
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: were a little hamstrung as far as a specific need
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: at running back. We had Ken Walker moving on. You
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: have Charbonnet injured. You had a couple other players move on,
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: but they at least had some in-house replacements. So you
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: go into the draft with a very specific need. You
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: need a running back at some point. It's a weird
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: running back class where Jeremiah Love is the consensus number one.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: A lot of people did have Price as the number two.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: There's some other guys like Jonah Coleman, a local guy
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: or whatever who people liked, but they ended up going
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: much later. And so the pick for Price was kind
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: of like, it sounded like Schneider wanted to move back,
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: didn't really have the opportunity to do that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: So they take him. I think they like him. I
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: think they wanted to take him there.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: They would have rather accumulate a few more picks given
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: the circumstances, but filled the need and you knew there'd
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: be some plug and play there.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I think he's looked good. I mean, outside of the fumbles,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I think he's looked good running the ball.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: I think he's added some, you know, some burst and some,
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: you know, short area explosiveness to the, to the run game.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: I think he's been fine when they, when they need him,
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: you know, as far as catching the ball and whatever
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: he's got to do out of the backfield, he's been
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: okay so far. I really think it's going to be
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: a trust factor. I think he's there. He's the runner
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: that they want to get going. He's the guy that,
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: I think they would prefer, you know, it would look
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: great right away in the New England game, and a
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: lot of rookie running backs, you want to ease them in,
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: but I think they'd rather have him be the 15-20
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: carry guy, just a matter of, yeah, you've got to
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: hold on to the ball and take care of the
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: ball security issues at this point.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the thing out here, Steve, is that,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: you know, the ball security, the kind of, I mean,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: they had the great drive with Emmanuel Wilson in Arizona,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: where they basically closed the game out with 16 plays
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: and kind of put that game away, but I think
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: one of the things that we've seen is that the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: success that Ken Walker is having in the Kansas City offense,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and people are going, why couldn't that be our guy?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of things that go into that,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: as you well know. A lot of it's roster management
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: in terms of who you're going to have, and they
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: had to re-sign JSN. They had to re-sign Devin Witherspoon,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: things like that. I think that's the consternation just real
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: quick on, on Walker. Cause I love the perspective. Are
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: they using him different than Seattle did what's going on there?
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Because he is just killing it right now with the chiefs.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: I don't think so. It's such a fascinating thing. I
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: was joking on the show today.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: My, I call the analytics people around the NFL, my friends,
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: the nerds, the nerds are going to be at a
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: bit of a crossroads here because the running back is
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: always like the final piece of the puzzle and you
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: need everything else in place and they can't carry a team.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: And at the same breath, it's like, well, Mahomes is
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: the best quarterback of this generation. And if you're the
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: best quarterback, you don't need a running back, right? That's
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: not the guy that's going to elevate your offense. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: now all of a sudden Walker's in Kansas City and
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: they ran the entire offense through him in week one
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: against Denver.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: And he has opened up a lot for that offense.
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: But I think the difference there is in Kansas City,
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: they looked at their team last year and they said, look,
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: we can run block pretty well. We've got a very
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: good interior offensive line, best center in the league. A
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: couple of good guards. They can get some movement. But
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: last year, they kept getting three, four, five yard runs.
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: They had nothing beyond that. They had no explosives. And
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: that's why they tried to trade for Brees Hall at
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: the deadline last year and failed. But they bring Walker
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: in and all of a sudden it's like, OK, we
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: think that he'll turn a three yard gain into 15
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: and sometimes he'll turn. a zero yard gain into 60,
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: like you did week one against the Broncos. So I
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: think they just looked at, Hey, we're going to give
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: him some room to run. Plus he doesn't need as
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: much room to run. He's Ken Walker. He's never always
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: going to paint by the numbers and just follow the
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: blocking scheme.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: He's creative. He's tough to tackle.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: He's going to bounce outside and try to big play hunt.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: So I think it's been a good fit for a
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: team that ran the ball pretty well in short yardage,
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: but had no explosiveness. And he's added some of that
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: to the team and they're, they're running the offense through him. They're,
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: to a point, you know, it's still going to be Mahomes' team,
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: but it gives them a different way to win. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: so I think he's still benefiting from having Mahomes in
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: the past game, but he's also benefiting from having a
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: nice offensive line and, you know, having the ability to
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: create some big plays like he has.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's good perspective. And, you know, part
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: of the thing is, too, when you are evaluating, when
• 26:48
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• 26:51
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• 26:52
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• 26:56
  Speaker 2: you're going through there, the running back position seems to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: be one of the great debates in the NFL. How
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: valuable is it? When do you take a guy in
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the draft? How much do you pay a guy? How
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: many carries does he have? Determine how much you're going
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to pay because there's that magic mark of 30 where
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: you get to 30 and all of a sudden you're
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: not as effective anymore. I've always kind of been fascinated by,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I guess at times, the lack of prioritizing the running
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: back position. Walker's made a difference in Kansas City. We
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: see Emmanuel Wilson can't get to the same spots as, say,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Judarian Price. He doesn't have the same juice to get
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: to the outside, especially in some of those stretch plays.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Devon Achan, now out for the year for Miami, difference maker.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: How much priority should be placed on the running back position?
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: I think the tricky part is there's obviously 11 players
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: on offense, there's 22 on the field, and there's a
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: lot of moving parts. And I think it's still relatively
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: true that the running back is the most dependent position
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: as far as their run blocking goes and The pass
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: game helps set up the run and like all those
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: things are absolutely true. I think what we've seen, and
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: there's some good examples across the last few years, you know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: like Derrick Henry, his last few years in Tennessee is
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: averaging under four yards per carry. Christian McCaffrey could not
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: carry the Carolina Panthers offense when they had nothing else.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: But when you drop both of those players and say
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley, same thing. I mean, when he was with
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: the Giants, He was averaging 3.9 the year before he
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: went to Philadelphia. Those are all really good examples of, okay,
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: you put McCaffrey on the Niners, and he has Kittle,
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: and he has all the receivers, and a good quarterback,
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: and all of that is.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: Making, and then McCaffrey is like the force multiplier for
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: that offense. So he's really impactful, but he kind of
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: needs everything around him. He can't do it by himself.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: Other JSN might be able to do it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: By himself, right?
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: He's that good that like just having a QB and
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: a JSN could probably carry a team to a point.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: You can't do that as much at running back. Everybody
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: needs help. He can't do it as much at running back.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: And so Derek Henry, same thing, 2000 yards when he
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: goes to Baltimore, when he has Lamar and everyone else,
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: And then Saquon, the 2,000-yard season when he has a
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: great offensive line and a good system. So I think
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: that's the point, is a great running back can be
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: a force multiplier. And then in stretches, like Seattle had
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: last year, hey, Sam Darnold's efficiency comes down just a
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: little bit, or maybe you're dealing with some stuff, or
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: he's not averaging 10 yards per attempt like he was
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: the first half of the season. Hey, by the way,
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: Ken Walker can go take over some games here.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: And there as well.
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: So I think that's how you look at it. It's
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: tough to build an entire offense around a running back.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: You're going to major in winning in the pass game,
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: but you need multiple ways to win, which includes a
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: run game, and then a running back in a good
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: situation can be a force multiplier and create those big
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: plays and really keep defenses off balance.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Well said.
• 29:40
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• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that in a second. Steve, just a general overview so far.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Three games into the NFL season. Out here, we kind
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of have this feeling that the NFC West is going
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: to be like the American League East this year, with
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Tampa and the Yankees and Red Sox all getting the postseason.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It feels like San Francisco, Seattle, and the Rams are
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: all playoff teams. Two will be wild cards. One will
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: be the division winner. With that as our setup, I
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: look around the league right now and the NFC specifically.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: You get to that two or three loss mark this early,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: you're in trouble. Tampa seems to be in massive trouble.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Green Bay's got all kinds of issues. These are all
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: teams we thought maybe would be wild card teams. The
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Giants now... with, well, I say without a quarterback.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: J.J.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: McCarthy is there now, too. Rams, we don't worry about
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: too much. Overview of what you've seen so far in
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the NFC, and I'll ask it this way. Who's in
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the most trouble in the NFC right now?
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: And you could put, let's say the NFC South is
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: like the AL West.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Is that the other proper comparison? That is our pillow
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: fight out here. And I should mention, it's also the
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: opening night for hockey season, the NHL, our crack and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: start their sixth season tonight. Uh, last year, uh, the, the,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the thing was called the Pacific division out here was called, uh,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the pillow fight, uh, Vegas ends up winning it, but
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: by default almost now they ended up going to the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Stanley cup finals, but yes, whether Pacific division AL West
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: would have you, that would be the NFC South where
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: one and two Carolina leads right now.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: So as far as the NFC, I think, I think
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: the Packers are in a, it's relative to expectations.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: A lot of trouble.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, like they, we were expecting the Packers to
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: be competitive, but the They've been a 9- or 10-win
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: team all the time under Matt LaFleur. The question's winning
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: more than one playoff game. They're in a lot of trouble.
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: They can't block anybody. They picked up three guards off
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: the street, which, to be fair, I think they're all
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: upgrades over what they've been trotting out there the last
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: couple years, so maybe they'll improve. But that's another one.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: You talk about the impact of a run game. And
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: it looks bad when I tell you the running back
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: doesn't matter. Josh Jacobs absolutely matters for that team. He
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: hasn't been out there. They've got the, you know, the
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: worst running back, the worst run game in the NFL
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: from an efficiency standpoint. So Josh Jacobs relative to his,
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: the backup situation over there, huge difference. Jordan loves under
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: intense pressure. So the Packers are in trouble. The Bucs
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: are in trouble. I mean, even when Baker Mayfield's out there,
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: they're 0-3. They're starting an undrafted rookie free agent, Jalen Daniels.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: He has some upside, looks intriguing, but he's an undrafted
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: rookie free agent. Even if he wins a couple games
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: here and there, I don't know that he's holding the
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: fort for the next three to four weeks while Baker's injured.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: So I think those teams really stand out.
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: Dallas is going to be interesting because we thought that
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: their defense was supposed to be better, and it looks
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: almost as bad as last year, maybe similar, even though
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: they're adding Joey Porter Jr.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: To the mix here. So another team that has the talents.
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: They're also one, you know, kind of a, not fluky play,
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: but like a funky last minute play and walk off
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: field goal last, you know, last week from being two
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: and one.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: So they're close.
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: But the Dallas defense is a bit of a concern,
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: but it's still early. There's a lot of football to
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: be played, but I'd say the Packers and Bucks who
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: are playing each other this week are relative.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: To expectations, probably the biggest disappointments.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe a disappointment in the AFC is who we're going
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: to see this week out here in Seattle for the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Seahawks game at home against the Los Angeles Chargers. 0-3 already, Steve.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: What's going on with the Chargers?
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Everything's bad. It's all bad. It's all bad. It's mostly
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: bad on offense. It hasn't been great on defense.
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, they had a sneaky good defense the last
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: few years, but Jesse Minter, the defensive coordinator, moves on
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: to Baltimore. I had a feeling the defense could regress
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: a little bit.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, checkmark. The offense, I was not expecting it to
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: be this bad.
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: They're running the ball at an extremely high rate on
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: early downs.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: They're the least efficient.
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: They're even worse than the Packers as far as running
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: the ball efficiency-wise on early downs. So they're getting into
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: awful down-and-distance situations. Justin Herbert can only throw the ball
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: effectively to Ladd McConkie, it seems. And I think he
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: only wants to throw the ball to Ladd McConkie. And
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: that's what I've been seeing is he looks, Herbert, very
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: uncomfortable in this new Mike McDaniel offense.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: There's no rhythm to it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: There's been two and three play stretches where you see
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: some creativity in a couple plays, but there's no sustainability.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: And now Herbert is making bad decisions.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: And so Herbert's a fun hot button issue, you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: talented toolsy quarterback who hasn't won a ton, but he's
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: won a little bit. And he's had 900 different offensive
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: coordinators and here's the potential. And has he got into
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: it yet? And how good is he? Plenty of debates.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: But the one thing he's always done is taking good
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: care of the ball other than those couple of playoff games.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: But in the regular season, He takes care of the ball.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: And then last week, he throws three balls right to
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: the Bills in the red zone. Only one counted as
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: an interception. One was negated by penalty.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: One was dropped. And so now Herbert is pressing and
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: not looking good. So it's all bad. They can't throw it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: They can't run it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: McDaniel's not adding anything to the offense. The guard situation
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: is still awful like it was last year. All that said,
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: on paper, Seattle should crush them. with what Seattle's defense
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: is capable of, but it's football. And in any given week,
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: Justin Herbert could play well, but right now the first
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: three weeks have been pretty bad for the Chargers.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: It feels like if nothing else, Steve Palazzolo brought to
• 35:05
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• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that in the case of the Chargers and Herbert throwing
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the ball, he just doesn't have any weapons.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: So I don't think they're that bad. I think they've
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: all gotten worse.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: This is what's intriguing about Mike McDaniel, who was supposed
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: to be this potential upgrade. Again, I think the offense
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: early in the season, week one, you saw it. It
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: ran through Ladd-McConkie. Then he got banged up and it
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: fell apart. And if he's ever off the field, Herbert
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: looks a little lost. He really does. It just doesn't
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: look right. Ladd-McConkie's great. I think Trey Harris has some ability.
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: Quinton Johnston had a slow start to his career, but
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: he was on the ascent, and it feels like he's regressed.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: It feels like everybody on this offense, not named Vlad McConkie,
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: has regressed and gotten worse. So I don't think they're
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: completely devoid of talent. I'm not saying it's the best
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: playmaker situation in the world, but it's not an awful group.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: They were also supposed to, I really enjoyed the offseason
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: moves at tight end where they brought in Charlie Kohler
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: and David Njoku. Both of those guys are hurt. So
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: they've had some injuries. They shouldn't be this bad offensively
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: given their talent level, but they are. I do feel
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: like everybody's regressed other than Vlad McConkie on that side
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: of the ball.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up with this. Steve, just a thought
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: on what you've seen Seattle the first three games. One
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of the things I've discussed out here, the running game
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: hasn't been there at all. Part of it is the reluctance,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: or I guess not the reluctance, the trust factor with
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price that we talked about earlier. The fact that, hell,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: if nothing else, Jackson Smith and Jigba is doing Ken
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Walker things here. Why would you bother doing anything else
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: when you can just throw it to JSN who's got
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: 27 catches in the first three games and six touchdowns
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: along the way but they haven't played great first halves
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: they've only got 17 first half points to see oxford
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: 31 17 second half's a much different story we know
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: turnovers can come into play as he did in washington
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: but your thoughts on what you've seen from seattle so
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: far on both sides.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah so i mean offensively obviously having to deal with
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: sam darnold going down after a handful of plays that's
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: an issue i thought drew lock held it down really
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: well i thought he did a nice job making just
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: enough plays against new england And then against Arizona, I
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: thought he did a really nice job getting the ball
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: to JSN, the three-touchdown game. JSN's outstanding. He's uncoverable. At
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: some point, teams will really overcommit to slow him down.
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: But I think the Seahawks have enough elsewhere to make do.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: So I feel good about their pass game. You'd love
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: to see a more complimentary run game. But again, last
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: year at this time, it was a high-volume rushing attack
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: without a lot of success.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: You know, through what two thirds of the season or so.
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: It was like, Hey, we're running a lot, but not
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: really efficiently, but the past games carrying us, you know,
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: you know, more of a low volume, high efficiency manner.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: So I just think they have enough ways to win.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: They'll get the run game going at some point. I
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: think price will settle in and they'll trust him. And
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: he's just got to take care of the ball and
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: the loss last week, you know, for Seattle fans, I'd say,
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: you could call it fluky. I wouldn't say this on
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: Washington radio. I'd say, great job. You guys forced those turnovers,
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: but in Seattle, you look at it and say, look,
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: we had 200 more yards than Washington. The defense gave
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: up a few plays, but they had short fields. A
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: lot of points came either off the pick six or,
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: or off turnovers, right? So like 17 points off of
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: either turnovers of the pick six, they scored 17 points,
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: Washington on 60 yards of offense.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: That's not sustainable.
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: That's kind of a fluky game where Seattle's defense is
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: still outstanding and They could stop the run. They make
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: life difficult for opposing quarterbacks. Crazy stat that Arizona didn't
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: even complete a 10-yard pass. Total yards, not air yards
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: in week two. That's wild.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: So I think they'll be fine. I think they'll be fine.
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: Darnold looked good coming off the injury last week, other
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: than fluky interception in the pick six that, you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: tough read or, you know, great play by the defense.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: So I think they'll be fine.
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: Would love to get the run game on, be a
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: little bit more consistent there, but I think they look
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: a lot like last year's team in totality. Tough team
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: to beat, great defense that can put up a lot
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: of points.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Looking forward to doing this again all season. We'll really
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: jump knee-deep into the rest of the NFL next week
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: as well as we head into week five next week.
• 39:02
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• 39:39
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• 40:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, unfortunately, we're going to enter a pretty dark period
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: here after the World Series, so best of luck to
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: all of us baseball fans that it gets resolved somewhat quickly.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Ryan Healy, the former player, does some work on the
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Mariners broadcast, recently retired, as you know. He's on our
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: morning show once a week. He was on this morning,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: and they asked him the same thing, like, hey, what
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: do you think? Do you think there's going to be
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: some games missed? And he's like, yeah, I think unfortunately.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: So I'll just start there before we move on to
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the stuff on the field. The feeling you get personally
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: talking to guys around the league, et cetera, I think
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: is it safe to say we should all expect some
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: sort of delay in the start of the 2027 season?
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: I think so, but I think the two most likely
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: outcomes are this. Something that looks a little bit like
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: the last CBA where our spring is truncated and we
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: don't miss any games, you know, regular season games. We
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: have to cut some spring, and there's some sort of
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: hurried agreement in mid-March, right? And the reason for that
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: would be that the owners realize that the players are
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: never going to budge on the salary gap thing, and
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: the owners don't have the will to lose actual regular
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: season games. That could still happen. That's what I'm hoping for.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: I think that's actually the best-case scenario right now. The
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: next most likely thing is that in June, there's a
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: benchmark that happens somewhere between May and June, where if
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: they don't get going, they won't get enough games for
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: this year to count as a year in the TV contracts.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: So if that happens and this year does not count
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: as a year, the owners still get paid for this year,
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: but they don't get paid for 2029. And this is
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: a big deal because that means that TV networks get
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: a free full season of baseball. And also, Manfred has
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: set this up where all of his TV contracts are
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: set to expire in 2027. He wants to go to
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: the market in 2028 owning most of the team's local
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: rights as well as the national rights. And he wants
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: to go to Netflix and all those places. And he
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: wants to recruit something like the billions and billions of
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: dollars that the NFL and the NBA have gotten out
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: of their TV deals. And he thinks the best way
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: to do that is to do this approach. So he
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: has a lot of deals, local deals and rights that
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: are expiring in 2028. If those get pushed to 2029,
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: it messes up a lot of his plans. So And
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: a full year of free TV from the TV rights holders,
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: I think that's something that the owners can't stomach because
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: that's maybe a quarter to a third of their income
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: on a given year. And it's fixed income. It's income
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: that's supposed to come to them no matter what. So
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: I think the worst case scenario is baseball starts on
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: June 1st.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I saw it. It's a 60-day thing, right?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's 60 games or 60 days,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: but probably 60 games. And once you get to that point,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: then the TV contract rolls over and you lose that
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: year and you're the owners. And if Ian Osiris knows
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: that and Ian Furness knows that, I'm guessing the players
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: know that. That's a pretty heavy leverage tool that they
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: can use.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: Yes, and that's why it becomes suddenly more likely if
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: they don't figure it out in March.
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: It kind of.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: it almost seems suddenly more likely that the next leverage
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: point will be sometime in May, you know, and that's unfortunate.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: And I really, I'm so sad for my Rates and
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: Barrels show. We're going to have to, if we have
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: to broadcast into May, we're going to be covering some
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: funny topics.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: We have a little bit of practice because of COVID. Yes.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, we all have practice on talking about sports
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: when games aren't taking place. I don't want to go
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: through that again. At all, ever again.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: I don't either.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to go through that. Ito Saris, joining us
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: at the Athletic Rates and Barrels podcast. We talked a
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: little bit last week about managers and the shortlist and
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: looking around, knowing that Dan Wilson was going to be gone.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: That became official on... Torrey Lovello is off the list.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Does that say more about, because he could have chose
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: to go somewhere else, does that say more about the
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks or the Mariners or other teams around baseball that
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: he decided to re-sign and stick in Arizona?
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: I think it just has to do with comfort, personal comfort.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: his own, you know, what he wants to do. Um,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: you know, and, you know, I think he, he lost
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: his wife there, but he has, uh, roots there. Um,
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: and so I, I think that's a, that's about personal comfort. Um,
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: I think there's a, there's some interesting names out there.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: You know, Alex core is the big name. Um, you know,
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know that he'd come to Seattle, but especially
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: because he's been rumored, uh, to, to go to, um,
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: rumored to go to either Philadelphia or New York. That
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: seems to be a good fit for him. Rocco Baldelli
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: is thought of as a really good manager with young players.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: David Ross has experience and has been in the booth
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: for a little bit. And then I, uh, you know, I, I,
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: I'm a big Ty Correa fan.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Um, so, you know, that's, that's, that's a, that's a,
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: that's an option. Um, so I, you know, I, I,
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: the one thing that I don't know that is my favorite, um,
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: is like kind of the Albert Pujols idea, you know, um,
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: he doesn't really have a connection to the, to, to
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: the Mariners. And, um, I, not every superstar is a
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: good manager and coach. They, I think of like Barry
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: Bonds was, you know, he famously like didn't show up
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: sometimes in, in Miami when he was hitting coach. And
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: what I was like, the biggest example is Michael Jordan, right? Like, yes.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: you know, he's not a good coach. He's kind of like,
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: just do it, just do it. Like I did it,
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: you know, like do it, do this, you know, they're like,
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: you're Michael Jordan. I'm sorry. I can't do what Michael
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: Jordan did. I'm sorry. The one exception to me for
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: me is a little bit Carlos Beltran just because he
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: was like a top step, you know, David Ortiz type
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: in terms of like, this is the next pitch that's coming.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: He was a guy that took young guys under his
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: wing on teams.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I know he.
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: Has a little bit of the Astros science scenic scandal
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: around him, but I just thought he was one of
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: the smartest players on the field at all times. So
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: that's the only kind of exception I have between when
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: it comes to like the superstar former players, manager types.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I was thinking like, like Larry Bird was okay. I think,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: as a coach, but he was the exception. Mikhail, okay,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: in the NBA. Wayne Gretzky was Jordan-like. Those are two
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: of the most iconic figures. Wayne Gretzky was an awful coach.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: But the same thing, it's like, well, yeah, you just
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: go here and you skate here and do this and
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: you score 100 goals. It's pretty easy. That's what you do. Well, no,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: it's really not.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: If it's going to be a former player, I want
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: them to be bad. I like Ryan Flaherty, you know,
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: I'm not trying to besmirch his career as a player,
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: but like, that's the type of player I want because,
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: you know, I think they can speak, you know, every
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: major league player was once a fairly good player, like
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: was once either the best player on their college team
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: or their high school team. They were drafted. So they
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: understand what it's like to feel good about yourself and
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: to be, you know, to be on top of the world.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: But then they also know what it feels like to
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: be on the bottom of the world. And I feel
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: like your manager needs to speak to both sides of that.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: It can't just be Albert Pujols who just ran on
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: through the big leagues, man. He was good from the
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: moment he got here. He was like a Hall of
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: Famer in day one.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Sarah's joining us right now. I want
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: to get a couple things in here before we go.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: One of the things, and I mentioned this to Alex,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: earlier in the show that I wanted to ask you today,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: because you know, with, with Seattle and, and everything that
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: kind of went wrong this year and you see a
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: team go 500 and win the damn division, it just
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: kind of makes you pound your head against the wall
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: even more. How would you, As someone who studies the
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: pitching part of this game as intently as anybody, how
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: would you put a wrap on the starting rotation for
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Seattle this season that for a while included Castillo and
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: so forth? Because it kind of feels to me like
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: they didn't reach the levels they should have.
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that a few of them had down years.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: I look particularly at George Kirby as someone who can
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: do better next year and do better in the future.
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: We talked a lot about Brian Wu's home road splits.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: I think Bryce Miller's Concerns were injury related. You know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: he looks so good when he came back and felt healthy.
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: I'm not in his brain, but I would just assume
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: that a lot of what happened after that was him
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: feeling more and more unhealthy and feeling those burns bones
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: for that wouldn't be surprised at all if there was
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: some sort of surgery to finally get rid of those.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: Gilbert's been pretty good. To some extent, they coach themselves.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: We talked about how they're a really heady group that
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: coach themselves. I think Kate Anderson showed real improvement start
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: to start over the course of his mini-season. They ended
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: up the ninth-best rotation by Fangraph's War. Honestly, it doesn't
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: seem like something that I need to panic about. Would
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: I change pitching coaches? I wouldn't even need to go
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: that far, but would I... maybe sit like what I
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: sit down organizationally with the pitching coach and the director
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: of pitching and say, you know, is there, is there
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: a problem here? You know, do we need to look
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: into this further? I would definitely do that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: I think that the more problematic aspect, you know, and
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: this is actually, this is hand in glove of what
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: you're talking about. So, you know, they, they, as a team, um,
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: you know, they suffered the pitching did from one of
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: the worst defenses in the big leagues.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Hmm. Yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Jerry brought that up. Jerry DePoto brought that up in
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: his end-of-the-year news conference. He talked about that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: It's not just one or the other. To some extent,
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: those guys did suffer from their defenses. You look at
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: the defensive numbers. Cole Young is a real big positive
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: in defensive runs saved and a negative in the stack
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: cast numbers. From watching him, I thought he was at
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: least a slight positive. I don't think that's a big problem.
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: Colt Emerson was a positive in DRS and a small
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: negative in stat cast. He had a really good reputation
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: coming up, and he was hurt, and he's young. So
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: I'm going to say that up the middle, I think
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: that they're fine, at least in the infield. Young, Emerson,
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: and Rowley. At the most important positions defensively, I think
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: they will be as good or better next year. I think,
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: like I said before, maybe move Julio off center, find
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: a good defensive solution up the middle there, and then
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: maybe all the defense gets a little bit better next year.
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: And maybe that helps your pitching staff.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up with this. We're almost done with
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: the wild card. Just one game left to be decided
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: tonight with Philly and Atlanta. But everything else is done
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: in two games. The other three are done in two games.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: What's your big takeaway so far from the postseason?
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: The thing that makes it so hard to predict, and
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: most of the numbers that we use to predict regular
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: season numbers don't really work in the playoffs. I think
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: the thing that makes it so hard to predict is...
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: You know, there's these strategies that you can unload that
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: you cannot unload over the course of the season. I mean,
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: it is impractical to use your rookie starting pitcher, Andrew Painter,
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: for two innings, you know, two or three days before
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: you expect to need to use him again as a starter.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: You know, it's impractical to kind of, you know, do
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: all these things that they do with the pitching staff
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: and to try and run your closer for three innings.
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: Like the Phillies did with John Duran, like those things
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: you cannot do for one 62. Cause you'll, you'll get
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: into real trouble with injuries and fatigue. So it also
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: is weird that we then play baseball all year one way.
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: And then we get to the post season and it
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: seems like we're playing under completely different rules. I mean,
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: we literally, there are, there's no Manfred man in the
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: extra innings, but there's, It's just also like this weird, like, oh,
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: the closer is coming in the third and the starter
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: is coming in the seventh. And like, I don't know. I, I,
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: this is when I get my grumpiness a little bit
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: about the, um, lack of starters the way that we
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: used to have them. Because I, I, I feel like
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: this is a big stage. There are people who don't
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: watch baseball all year and then come to watch now.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: Like my, my son, my oldest son watches intermittently all year,
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: but then he really kind of starts to listen. and
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: he knows the starters names but he doesn't know all
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: the relievers names and for him I would love to
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: gift him you know Mizorowski versus Schlittler every night you
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: know and instead we get you know for a lot
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: of these games we get a parade of just name
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: after name after name so this is why I start
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: to agree with Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander who think
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: that we need to have a rule that requires the
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: starting pitcher to stay in the.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Game Yeah, something could be done, I think, with that.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I'll just wrap it up real quick. Did you ever
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: think three or four years ago you'd see a baseball
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: playoff series end on a video review, a.k.a.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: An ABS challenge? Yeah. I, you know, that's another thing
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: on TV. I felt like at home it was very
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: anticlimactic because you're like, ah, okay, game's over. Um, maybe
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: at the park it was more fun because they got
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: to see it. Maybe it was, maybe it landed with
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: more of a thud because they were in Atlanta and
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: it was a loss for them.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: That might be like, look at the board, look at
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: the board. Oh, strike three, game's over. All right, go home.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was nice.
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: Anyway, it was a very weird feeling. It reminded me
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: a little bit of the Kawhi Leonard bouncing. Oh, double
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: shot that shot. Everyone had to like wait for five
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: minutes afterwards to find out if he'd won the, won
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: the game or not.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I should put out, that didn't end the series. It
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: just extended the series.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: So my, my mistake on that. Um, I'd tell folks
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: about the, uh, rates and barrels podcast, which could be
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: entertaining even if there isn't baseball next year, but certainly
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: through the playoffs as well.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, tonight we're live in the seventh inning of the
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: Chili's Braves game. We've been doing them live because the
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: schedules are so packed that if we do them in
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: the morning, it comes out. It's already irrelevant. So we've
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: been doing it at night, but we're doing daily kind
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: of insights into what's going on. One of the real
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: fun ones was before Cam Schlittler, Red Sox face Cam Schlittler,
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: We talked about how last year they faced Cam Schlittler,
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: but they were away. And when you're away, you don't
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: have access to the traject machines, these like really nice
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: pitching machines. And so they faced Cam Schlittler without being
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: able to practice against him. And he blew them away
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: in that game using mostly fastballs, 98% fastballs in that game.
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: This year, they were in Tampa, but they were the
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: road team in Tampa because of the weather situation. And
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: so they used Tampa's trajectory system to play Cam Schlittler
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: all weekend while it was raining. And, you know, Saturday
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: didn't have a game. They basically apparently just practiced against
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: Cam Schlittler that whole day. And then Cam Schlittler comes
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: out and he says, oh, well, you practice against a
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: guy who throws only fastballs. I'm going to throw, you know,
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: 30 curveballs today. And it was a masterful performance, and
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: the trajectory didn't matter. But it was an insight into
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: how teams prepare and what the modern baseball mind is
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: thinking about. Like, oh, I need to have my awesome
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: pitching machine, or else I'm going to be behind.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Listen, my friend... Your mind of baseball has been great
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: for us the last couple of years. We hope we
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: can do it again next year, and we hope we
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: do it again next year early when the season starts
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: on time. But we'll probably be checking in on you
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: as things happen during the offseason. But I can't thank
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: you enough. I always learn something. I think our listeners
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: learn something talking to you. The Rates and Barrels podcast
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: is there for folks. Make sure you go check that
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: out if you're a baseball fan. Eno, thanks again for
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: another great season.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. And I look forward to checking
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: in sometime over the, over the winter.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: We will do that. Ashley has your number. So now
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: that's a, that's a promise. So thank you, sir. We'll
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: talk to you soon.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: Take care.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: There you go. Tino Saris. We'll take a quick break.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Come back. A quick daily power play. Then the unofficial
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: start of the weekend is at two o'clock with Brandon Funston,
• 58:25
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• 58:29
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• 58:32
  Speaker 7: He's the leading face of fantasy sports.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Even though you can't see him, trust us. It's time
• 58:41
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• 59:00
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• 59:02
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• 59:10
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• 59:14
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• 59:16
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• 59:21
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• 59:25
  Speaker 2: See what they've got going on. Grab a growler for
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: the weekend, although two hockey games. I'm not sure if
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• 59:45
  Speaker 3: How are you?
• 59:47
  Speaker 9: Oh, man, I'm gearing up for a big weekend, Ian.
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: I thought I'd let you know. It's Parents Weekend at Pullman.
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: So I will be heading out tomorrow and visiting my son,
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: who has managed to become a Coug.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: Does that mean any parent of any kid can go there,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 10: or do you have to have a kid who's there
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 10: to just go celebrate Parents Weekend?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: Because I'd like someone to celebrate me being a parent.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: That'd be kind of fun.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: If you're a parent, come one, come all.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 9: I think just the general kind of gentleman's agreement or
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: whatever rule is you should.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 8: Probably have a kid there.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah, right.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 12: Fine, fine.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: They did change it, by the way. It used to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: be dad's weekend now, mom's weekend in the spring.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Both had their challenges, and it had nothing to do
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: with equal opportunity, although a lot of moms wanted to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: go to dad's weekend because it was a football game,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: and there's no football in the spring.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: I went to dad's weekend once, not as a mom.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and dad's weekend– but dad's weekend– Guys are getting
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: after it. It was fun. Mom's weekend, a whole different
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: set of circumstances. I'll just leave it at that. So
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: now it's parents' weekend on both. And, yeah, you'll have
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: a good time.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: Fresno State on tap.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I'll expect a full report next week, sir.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I'll expect a full report. Sounds good. Sell us for
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: a calzone is a must.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Sell us for a calzone is a must.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: Is that with an S? S.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: S-E-L-L-A-S. It's right at the bottom of Stadium Way, right
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: at the bottom of the campus. Best calzone you'll ever have.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: And then if you want to have a nice little,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: how about some Kugold mac and cheese? South Fork would
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: be sensational. South Fork. Yeah, those are my wrecks. I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: got some other ones for you. I'll text you the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: other ones.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Write them down.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I'll text you.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: Right before Mike's line of questions.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: And here it is. Let's start it off.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: 206-286-9595.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Phone lines are open. We'll get a couple more phones
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: once we cycle through here. Mike and Edmond, you're first up.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Fire away, Mike. How are you?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: Hi, Ian.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 12: Hi, Brandon. Hope you guys are doing well.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: You too.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 12: I don't trust Saquon Barkley against the Rams. So I've
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 12: got three running backs. I need two of them. Let
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 12: me know what you think.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: Full PPR, by the way.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 12: The three are Saquon Barkley, Jalen Warren, and Aaron Jones.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 12: And thanks for doing this.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: That's amazing, Mike. Here's my rankings this week.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: I mean, I have Jalen Warren, Saquon Barkley, Aaron Jones,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 9: back to back to back. I'm giving Barkley the slight
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: nod over Aaron Jones. Minnesota, guys like Aaron Jones, older, injury, susceptible.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 9: That's why I'm a little bit leery on Justin Jefferson,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 9: even if he does play. Playing Miami, there's an opportunity
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 9: for early exits for some of these guys.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: I think I'm going Jalen Warren. Barkley didn't look that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 8: bad last week. He got 80 yards.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: He just.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 9: you know, he's not punching it in and they need
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 9: to use him a little bit more in the passing game,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 9: but he looked good running around. So I'd still give
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 9: him the slight nod over Jones.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: Beautiful. All right.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Mike. Next up, we head to the two, five, three,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Ricky in Tacoma. What's up, Ricky?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: How's it going, ladies and gentlemen, and congrats on your son, Brandon.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, appreciate it, Ricky.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: Good deal. Um, all right.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: This is a tough one.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 11: Um, 14 team league, uh, Half-point PPR, and I got
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 11: this conundrum of mess here.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: I need two of the best four.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 11: I got Woody Marks, DK Metcalf, Trey Tucker, and Bryan Robinson.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: What would you say, Brandon?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 8: I'm going to go DK for sure.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's not the greatest connection, but I like
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: the opportunity share.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, they're going for him. It's just I think
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 8: he's the best upside there.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 9: I'm going to lean Woody Marks. He seems like he's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 9: getting a little bit more frisky in that offense. I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 9: like the matchup against Dallas. They haven't been a great
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 9: defense so far. So go ahead and give me Marks
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: and Metcalf.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: All right, perfect.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Well, let's see how things are going in Burien today.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Anybody have a prediction on how things are going? Let's see.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Rob in Burien, you're up next. What's up, buddy?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: I love this game.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: This is the best. There it is.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: It happens once or twice a year. Mark the date down.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Continue, Rob. We're all stunned, but go ahead.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: I'll take some injuries. Don't worry about that. So, quarterback,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson or Julian Love, please?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: You mean Jordan Love?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Love.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 9: I got Jackson number two going against Tennessee. Got a
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 9: little bit of a back issue that popped up, but
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: no one thinks it's really anything serious. So it looks
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: like it's probably going to be Jackson being just fine.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 9: And if that's the case, very rarely would I ever,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: ever say to bench.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: Him over Jordan Love.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: Beautiful.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Rob.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Let's go to Stephen and Sultan. Stephen and Sultan,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: you're up next.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 13: I think my injury routine can beat my regular starting
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 13: lineup this week.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: Full PPR, I need one of these guys somehow.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 13: Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison, Ted McMillan, Denzel Boston, or Mike Evans.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly, just play it safe. I think you go
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 9: Michael Wilson, 17 targets last week. He's had at least
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: seven targets, I think, every week. He's been the guy,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: and Marvin Harrison is... you know, run-and-go routes and basically
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: being ignored. So you don't want to play him. I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 9: would go Tett, Michael Wilson. Mike Evans has a rib injury.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 9: I think he might play, but that's going to probably
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 9: be a Patrick Sertan matchup. So you might as well
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: steer clear of that altogether.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: All right, perfect. We stay in Sultan. Next up is
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Derek in Sultan. What's up, Derek?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: Hey, guys.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 14: I'm a little worried because I said something about Rob's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 14: whiskey and Henry Weinhardt that I have his misfortunes now
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 14: with my team.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: Uh-oh.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 13: He had a good week.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 14: I had a really bad week.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: That's not good.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: That's not good at all. All right, what do you got?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 14: Okay, so I need two of these four. My running
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 14: back team is struggling. So, Braylon Allen, R.J.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Harvey.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 14: Or either of the Patriots running back, so Henderson or Stevenson.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 14: I need two of those four, and it's PPR.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll go Braylon Allen.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: I mean, they haven't played Isaiah Davis much at all,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 9: and Brees Hall is doubtful.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: I don't expect him to play.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 9: So Braylon Allen, good chance to score a touchdown on
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 9: that one, but he's going to probably get a lot
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: of carries. And then I think I would go Ramondre
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 9: Stevenson over Travion Henderson. I just feel like it's a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 9: game where they're going to need Romandre Stevenson's QB protection,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: his pass protection. I think he can get a decent
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 9: amount of catches in this game. I expect Buffalo to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 9: run up the score a bit, and New England to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 9: play Chase. And I think that's going to favor Stevenson
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 9: in the passing game since they don't really trust Travion
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: to be much of a pass blocker.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: Love it.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Perfect.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Chris in Burien. Chris, what's going on, buddy? Chris,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: are you there?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 10: One, two.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's supposed to be there.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: It's showing in there.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Chris, you there?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll put Chris on hold. We'll see if
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: we can.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: Get Chris back.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 13: I'm so sorry.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: There he is.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, you muted yourself. Buddy, come on. That's a fine.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: He almost got hung up on.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 14: Good afternoon and go Cougs.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: And now you know why I didn't know I was
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: on mute.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: Go Cougs.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Fire away.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, technology's not our friend. All right.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Full point PPR.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: I need two of the following four.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 13: Luther Burden III, Michael Wilson, Justin Jefferson, and Jalen Waddle.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 8: Man, that's star-studded.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: Man, again, I can't go away from Michael Wilson. Just
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 9: a massive target share last week, and he's been so involved.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 9: And I really would have a hard time sitting Justin Jefferson,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 9: but he hasn't practiced this week with the ankle injury.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 9: And like I said, I could see him either being
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 9: just a DMP because it's Miami and they're playing it safe,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: or they use him as a decoy, but they do nothing.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: To further his injury. So I'm going to lean Jalen.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 9: Waddell over Burden. I like them both a lot. So
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 9: I have Burden, Wilson, and Waddell all kind of together.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: But give me Waddle and Wilson.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: All right, perfect.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: Thanks, Chris.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, we locked down the phones, so we
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: only have two phone calls left. We lock them down.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: We only take X number, and then we get to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: the text. We've got a zillion texts, as always. Let's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: go next to Scott.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: No, TJ.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: TJ and Bonnie Lake. Scott, stand by. You're the last guys.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: TJ and Bonnie Lake.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: You're up next.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 13: Hey there.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: I thought I did great with Bo Nix and Drake May,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: but they both suck, so I picked up Kyler Murray.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: Who should I start?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: Ooh, this week. Let me see.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: I believe I have Kyler Murray as your top guy,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 9: and he actually might run a little bit. That's the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: problem with Nix and May. I mean, May's got all
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: kinds of problems, but Bo Nix has 15 rushing yards.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: and we expected more than that from him after three weeks,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: and May's not running a whole lot either. But Murray
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 9: has the best matchup and is, you know, I.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: Just think he's looking the best this week, so go
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: ahead and give.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: Him a roll.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: All right, perfect. And then we'll wrap it up next
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: with Scott Nevrit.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Hi. I'm in a touchdown-only league.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: I need one running back, either Jeremiah Love or Asim Jinti.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: In a touchdown-only.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 9: I think I would play for red zone trips, and
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: I think probably Arizona has a higher upside to get
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: in the red zone more often than Jinti against the Chiefs.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: So give me Jeremiah Love to get They turned them
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: loose last week. I don't think there's any reason they
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: won't do it again this week.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: All right. There you go.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: Perfect.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: We've got a couple new callers this week, which is awesome.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: If you did get in, make sure you give it
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: a go next week, and we'll tell you how. If
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: you don't get your question answered, you can get it
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: next week. But we go to the text line, 49451.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: No bullseyes this week, but more than I can ever
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: remember that came in one second after 12 o'clock.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: We don't want bullseyes to become the.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: No, we had a couple recently, and it's a little disturbing,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: but no. To think about all the ones that are one, two,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: and three seconds after the top of the hour, you
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: guys are amazing, and you're also in just absolute sicko mode,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: which I love. Alright, here we go. The first one, PPR,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: need two. Jay Johnson, the tight end, Jay Williams, Sutton,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: or Moore? So I'm thinking it's.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 9: Jameson, Williams, Sutton, DJ Moore, and just needs two?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Need two.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: I would I want Jawan Johnson in there. That's a
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 9: really good matchup. And then I will go DJ Moore,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 9: even though it's a tough matchup against Christian Gonzalez.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: But they can move him around. David says, full point PPR.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: I need two of three. Judkins, Price, DJ Moore. Two
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: of the three.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, give me Judkins and DJ Moore. Chest injury for Price.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 9: Chargers have been rough. It could be one of those
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 9: cases where they've decided to give him a rest in
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 9: the second half if the Chargers keep on Chargering as
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 9: they have.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Half-point PPR flex spot, Carnell Tate or Michael Pittman, which
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: assumes that Brees Hall is not playing?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going to go Carnell Tate.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 9: He hasn't had the big game yet, but he's been
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 9: bubbling up, and his usage has been great.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: So I think it's just a matter of time. It
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: could come this week.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Full-point PPR, need one for a flex position. Kup, Corum, Shahid,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: or Carnell Tate?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: One.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll go back to Carnell Tate for the reason
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: I just mentioned.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Rashichi, he's done nothing this year, fantasy-wise.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 9: No, I'm actually more interested on a fantasy side to
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 9: see Torrey Horton continue to... He was kind of starting
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 9: to rise up before he got hurt last year, and
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 9: then he comes back and he makes some catches and
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 9: kind of stands out. So we'll see what happens. 4-2-5.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: The Roma-Dunze experience, which I can tell you has not
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: been pleasant. Or Harvey, half-point PPR. I mean, I will
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: go Odunze. I mean, he did drop a touchdown.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: Yes, he did.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 9: And if he would have caught that, it would have
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 9: been a whole lot different story. His numbers otherwise wouldn't
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: have been that bad.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: So I'm going to go Odunze.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, I'm not enjoying the
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Roman Odunze experience at all.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: It's not ideal. No, not at all.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: I would like Caleb Williams back.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: That would help. Yeah, but I don't know. It's not
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: treating me well. Never trust a Husky. Full point PPR.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Need two. Tett, McMillan, Tootin, Waddle, or Jenkins? Need two.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: I'm going to go Tootin and Tett.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Fannin or Andrews? Full point PPR.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going to go Fannin.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 9: It's a tough matchup, but he's looking really good right
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 9: now and got a good chemistry.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: Boiling with Deshaun Watson.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: We're still one second after the hour, by the way.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 9: By the way, really quickly, is this the most despised
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 9: quarterback matchup in NFL history tonight?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, Watson and Rodgers?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: The two most unlikable people in the NFL?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Which is saying something, really. I mean, that's really saying something.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: Let's see.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Where are we at here? Need two in a PPR league? Kamara, Stevenson, Neighbors,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: or R.J.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 9: Harvey? Let's go with Neighbors and Stevenson. Neighbors is close
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 9: for me to... The other two, because it's been pretty
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 9: bleak with the Giants passing game.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: That's from our guy that always tweets or texts that
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Softee smells like fish. I still don't get it, don't
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: understand it, but I'll read it anyway. Jamie from Allen says,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: pick one running back, Lloyd Price or Braylon Allen.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 8: Braylon Allen for sure.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Rank them. Quarterbacks, Murray, Shuck, Lawrence. I would go Shuck, Lawrence, Murray.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: And Shuck, I have a pretty good distance ahead of
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: the other two. All right, last one for me, Ash.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: I'll get you ready. I have two full PPR. I
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: need full. Full PPR, I need two. J.K. Dobbins or
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas at Flex?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Dobbins.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: And then T.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Higgins, Christian Watson, or Travion Henderson at the other Flex?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: I'm going to go Christian Watson.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: And I'll just say it one more time. You guys
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: are absolutely crazy and sick to have all those ones
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: come a second after the hour. Not even a... I mean, like, literally,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying a minute. I'm talking one second afternoon.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: Crazy.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Fire away, Ash.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 10: This one's from Keith, and I really like it. Drake
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 10: May with a pukey face or pick up Knicks or Darnold?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 8: I have actually....
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 9: This is another one of those. I have Knicks, May,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 9: and Darnold in order in my rankings. So I don't
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 9: mind picking up Knicks over May for the rest.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Of the way.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: I think that actually worked out just fine.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 10: From the 206, DJ Moore or Mike Evans? Oh, it's
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 10: need one flex. DJ Moore or Mike Evans, Travis, Kelsey, or.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: Tootin'?.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 9: I'm going to go Tootin'. I like the way he's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 9: been looking in that Jacksonville offense, getting consistent touches each week.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 10: And a half-point PPR flex from the 206, Krosky Merritt
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 10: or Scary McLaurin?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 9: Oh, I'm going to go Terry McLaurin, and it's a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 9: good matchup against Indy, and it looks like Jaden Daniels
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 9: could play, but either way, he looked good with Mariota
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: against our Seahawks, as we all know.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: So I'll go McLaurin.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 10: All right, and then this one was an interesting one
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: to me from the 206. The receiver need one, Shahid
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 10: Cup or Cody White?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Wow. Just all.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Did I just hear a Cody White question?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't wait seconds. I was like, I've got to
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: ask this.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: Because this is too good.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: He's having a year, though.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but still, it just made me laugh. Well, he's
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: got like two catches for two touchdowns.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 9: It was something ridiculous like that.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: I think I'm going to go Kopp.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 9: I think Kopp's going to get like three catches for
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 9: 40 yards, and I.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 8: Think that feels the best to me of this group.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: This one from the 425.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 10: Need one.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Shockey, Jessamine, or Anders?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: Ooh. Wow.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 8: That's a tough one. Can I plead the fifth?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: I'll answer that.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll answer that.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: Ashley.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: Ashley.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: You're so good at this.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: You're good at this.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: The other three.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: It's a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately world.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Brandon, you and I have been doing
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: this for a long time. If I'm not mistaken, the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: other three, they've all left me. And you. And you, Brandon.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: They've left me. They've left you. They left Greg Cosell.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: They left you. They left us all.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: True, true.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 8: I like how you just zagged to the waiver wire
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 8: on that one.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: That was good.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: True.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 10: Here's one general question, by the way, from the 425.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 10: Is Pittsworth dropping at this point?
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  Speaker 9: I would give him one more opportunity. It was pretty
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  Speaker 9: bleak when Penix came in. It didn't help last year either.
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  Speaker 9: He actually did not have a numbers bump like Drake
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  Speaker 9: London did.
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  Speaker 8: Give him one more week and then you can kick
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  Speaker 8: him to the curb. There's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of tight ends this year. I got one VIP question
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  Speaker 2: that came in from, I won't say who the VIP is,
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  Speaker 2: but May or may not be involved with the brewery. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Carnell Tate or Justin Jefferson?
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  Speaker 9: Well, Justin Jefferson plays, you're going to play Justin Jefferson,
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  Speaker 9: but so hopefully it's made easy for you by, uh,
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  Speaker 9: you know, I mean, I guess.
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  Speaker 8: You, you hope he plays, but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 6: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: Funston, uh, for the hundreds that didn't get their questions answered,
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  Speaker 2: how can they, uh, get some updates?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you can come to The Athletic and check out
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  Speaker 9: the fans' football pages. Got all the rankings up to
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  Speaker 9: date to the minute. Bunch of great analysis to break
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  Speaker 9: down week four, get you ready. We also have a
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  Speaker 9: nice John Snyder piece from Michael Sean Degas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.
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  Speaker 8: And it's a great read if you're a Seahawks fan,
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  Speaker 8: so you can check that out as well.
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  Speaker 2: All right, there you go, folks. Go get those figured
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  Speaker 2: out right away. And Funston, we'll talk to you next
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  Speaker 2: week when the unofficial start of the weekend continues.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great time at Dad's weekend. I'll send you
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  Speaker 2: a couple other do's and don'ts there, all right?
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  Speaker 8: Okay, love it.
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  Speaker 2: Insider Trading.
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  Speaker 3: See you.
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  Speaker 2: That's Brandon Funston.
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  Speaker 5: We'll come back.
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  Speaker 2: We'll check your talkbacks coming up next.