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Spirituality with Erin Doppelt · Lean Out Podcast

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Welcome to the lean out podcast.
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I'm your host, Dr.
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Don baker.
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Are you looking for a new approach to finding authentic and sustainable work-life balance?
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You've come to the right.
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Place.
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For inspiration.
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information.
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and a community.
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community.
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of like-minded.
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Professionals.
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Let's get to the show.
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Hello?
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Hello.
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Thanks for being here.
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My family and I have been driving a really long way to, and from town and our mountain homestead.
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Because this is a weird time of year where the conditions on the unplowed road are just really bad.
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The top of the road that's at 10,000 feet is super snowy and it's really slushy snow mixed with some icy spots.
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And last week we actually got stuck and our track vehicle broke.
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That was a lot of fun.
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And in my next solo cast, I will have that story for you.
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But the reason that I bring this up is because the long way around to our property up a really windy dirt road.
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Is more than twice the length as the normal way that we would go to and from town.
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But, you know what?
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It's really a beautiful country and it forces you to slow down and enjoy the surroundings.
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And that gives added benefits of some mindful time.
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When's the last time you took the long way on a journey, whether it just be a regular to, and from journey for work or an adventure.
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I have a really interesting guest on the show today who has followed a very unique path.
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I first heard her on the pathless path podcast, which is one where I have also been a guest and I will link both my and her episodes on the pathless path podcast in the show notes.
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Paul Miller.
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The host is a really great interviewer.
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So you don't want to miss those.
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Her name is Erin Rachel dot pelt.
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But Aaron is a spiritual psychology and meditation teacher with a master's degree in psychology and education from Columbia university.
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After a stint as a marketing leader for a chain of big city restaurants, she spent her twenties living in Israel, India, Asia, and Europe, studying with diverse gurus and yoga educators.
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Aaron is the CEO and founder of the international brand spiritual intelligence, which hosts certification trainings, business, and spiritual courses to support those looking to live their most unedited, nourished and authentic lives.
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Aaron is the creator as well of Uplevel, meditation, and active meditation framework.
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Supporting those with anxiety, depression, and add ADHD.
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She is also the founder of the aligned coaching certification.
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She's the host of the wise woman podcast and the author of the new book, nothing can stop you.
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Aaron's journey is truly an example of a hero's journey.
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A concept that I talk about in the lean out book.
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She found herself in an unsustainable situation and struck out into the unknown, moving across the world with no definite return date at a young age.
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She met many teachers on her path and grew spiritually in a way that has helped shape her life.
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On her return to the states.
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Aaron chose the path of entrepreneurship to share her skills in meditation, spirituality, and business.
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In this episode, we talk about birthing a book, birthing a baby.
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And birthing a business.
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We discuss how Aaron manages her new baby and multiple businesses and her unique take on why more women should be embracing entrepreneurship.
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I hope you enjoy our conversation.
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ED-Dawn: erin Doppelt, welcome to the podcast.
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ED-Dawn: I'm so excited to have you here.
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ED-Dawn: Can you please introduce yourself for the audience?
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ED-Erin: Dawn, thank you so much for having me.
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ED-Erin: I'm incredibly happy to be present with you.
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ED-Erin: I am Erin Rachel Doppelt.
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ED-Erin: I'm a spiritual psychology and meditation teacher.
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ED-Erin: I'm a new mama.
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ED-Erin: Oh, my God.
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ED-Erin: What a what a wild world.
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ED-Erin: It is as a new mama.
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ED-Erin: I'm a soon to be author.
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ED-Erin: My book comes out May 6.
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ED-Erin: I'm very excited about that.
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ED-Erin: Thank you for having me
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ED-Dawn: Absolutely.
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ED-Dawn: And tell us the name of your book.
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ED-Erin: Nothing can stop you a revolutionary guide to unleash your most authentic Self all about living truly on your highest possible timeline your most nourished joyful Authentic life and merging Eastern ritual and Western psychology, so I'm ecstatic to share this with the world
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ED-Dawn: Well, I'm on the pre order list.
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ED-Dawn: I'm really excited to read it.
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ED-Dawn: And I would love to know what your experience was like writing the book.
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ED-Dawn: I know what my experience was.
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ED-Dawn: I loved it.
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ED-Erin: I think this is such a powerful question because so often, I know for myself, being an author and writing a book, it was my highest goal for so long and it felt so daunting.
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ED-Erin: And the truth is, I actually wrote the book, majority of the book, in about two and a half months.
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ED-Erin: And there's this sacred practice I teach, which is called self criticism.
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ED-Erin: Soul time and soul time is when you bear your heart to God as you understand it to the divine as you understand it and soul time is a non negotiable amount of time where you are taking physical aligned action on the deepest desire on the deepest dream whatever that looks like for you for anyone.
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ED-Erin: For me I always wanted to be a published author.
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ED-Erin: I always wanted to be an inspirational author.
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ED-Erin: I chose the traditional publishing path which required Sitting down, writing a book proposal, pitching an agent, signing an agent, getting signed by an agent, and then the agent pitching me to a lot of different publishing houses, signing with a publishing house, and then finally sitting down and writing the book.
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ED-Erin: So it's been about a two and a half year process.
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ED-Erin: I'm ecstatic for it to come out into the world.
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ED-Erin: In my personal practices, I would sit down first thing in the morning.
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ED-Erin: It was right before I got pregnant, actually.
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ED-Erin: I would meditate, I would get clear, maybe I would have a warm drink, a cacao, or a coffee, eat something with a lot of protein in it, and then I would sit down for 35 minutes and write, and really focus on what that chapter was all about.
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ED-Erin: So that was the process for me, and it worked.
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ED-Dawn: It's really fun to hear other people's creative processes.
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ED-Dawn: Mine was similar, but a little different.
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ED-Dawn: I did mine at night when my daughter, when I would put her to sleep.
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ED-Dawn: I didn't have the protein breakfast, but it was like the tea.
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ED-Dawn: And I also, sat down and said, well, I'm going to do something for an hour each night.
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ED-Dawn: And if it was super creative, maybe it would go a little longer.
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ED-Dawn: And if it wasn't, that was okay.
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ED-Dawn: Maybe I was doing a little research or just even editing a little bit but just kind of, having it be a ritual was really helpful.
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ED-Erin: And I love how you say that.
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ED-Erin: Yes.
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ED-Erin: It's like committing to the sitting down for me, 35 minutes, you for an hour, and then almost trusting a higher power that we would get creative.
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ED-Erin: We would get in the flow of it.
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ED-Erin: And then that 35 minutes becomes two hours and you're just in it and you're like pouring your heart into it.
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ED-Erin: So I love that.
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ED-Erin: How old is your daughter?
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ED-Dawn: my daughter is eight now.
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ED-Dawn: It feels like yesterday that I was in the place that you're in now.
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ED-Dawn: And your child is how old?
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ED-Erin: Eden is five and a half months today.
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ED-Erin: And we, yeah, I'm waking up a lot at night, very tired, but deeply nourished.
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ED-Erin: So as long as I stay nourished, it's like, the fatigue doesn't really catch up to me, but that's not true all the time.
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ED-Erin: I have to kind of stay in that healthy head space, making sure that I'm eating really well, getting outside, drinking water.
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ED-Erin: I went to yoga yesterday for the first time, and I am telling you, I came out a different person.
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ED-Erin: I like cried the whole session.
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ED-Erin: It is such a initiation motherhood.
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ED-Erin: Wow.
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ED-Dawn: Yeah, but very special and sacred, like I know you agree with.
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ED-Erin: Yeah.
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ED-Erin: I do feel like I was admitted into a club that I, you only know about until you have the baby, until you are the archetypal mother.
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ED-Erin: And it's a little shock to my system, the initiation and everything I'm learning about motherhood in such a, it's like a crash course in such a short amount of time.
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ED-Erin: So I have a lot to say on that.
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ED-Erin: I think it's, I'm so grateful and I'm so happy to be in this world.
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ED-Erin: And.
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ED-Erin: There are so many things I wish I knew before going into it.
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ED-Dawn: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you're alone in feeling that at all.
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ED-Dawn: How do you manage writing a book and being an entrepreneur and having this young child?
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ED-Dawn: What are your secrets for time management how do you approach that right now?
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ED-Dawn: Yeah.
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ED-Erin: I don't, and that's the truth.
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ED-Erin: I mean, that's really, I've been doing this.
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ED-Erin: I'm launching a book right now.
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ED-Erin: And the most important thing is to encourage people to pre order pre orders are so important.
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ED-Erin: To be emailing my list, I know I need to be hopping on social media.
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ED-Erin: And I'm also breastfeeding, so I need to keep Eden alive and I need to feed her and I'm waking up with her two, three, four times at night, sometimes five times at night.
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ED-Erin: Like it's, it's a cycle.
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ED-Erin: And the truth is it's finding peace in the chaos.
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ED-Erin: It's leaning into it.
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ED-Erin: And I love how this is a lean out podcast.
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ED-Erin: Because there's so many, I am leaning out of like what I should be doing I'm outsourcing as much as possible.
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ED-Erin: I'm showing up in my most authentic way, which means taking time away.
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ED-Erin: I'm showing up in a big way for my clients because I love my clients and their students in my certification or their students in my spiritual or business programs.
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ED-Erin: That's where my integrity lies.
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ED-Erin: And I will always show up in that way.
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ED-Erin: So the key is, I'm always safe in my truth.
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ED-Erin: Like even hopping on this podcast with you.
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ED-Erin: I'm always safe in my truth.
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ED-Erin: I will always share from that place.
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ED-Erin: And as long as I am breastfeeding and keep being my baby happy, and I am feeding myself, and then I take time to make sure that I am showing up for my also personal highest dream, which is really sharing this book with as many people as possible.
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ED-Erin: So I do try to show up on social media for, you know, five to 10 minutes every single day.
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ED-Erin: Sometimes it's more.
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ED-Erin: And then I have this opportunity to really share a unique thought, a teaching concept, a spiritual practice, a psychological framework.
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ED-Erin: So I'm doing it very gently.
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ED-Erin: And I, if I have a framework that evolves from this, I'll be sure to share it with, with everyone, with all of you.
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ED-Erin: But at the end of the day, I'm always safe in my truth and I'll show up in the way that feels most authentic for me.
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ED-Dawn: I think that so many people would be interested in a framework, but you know, the thing is that you can't apply one person's situation to everybody.
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ED-Dawn: And so that's where a framework, can only go as far as it can go.
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ED-Dawn: And then you have to have your own journey, really.
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ED-Dawn: So you have this deep background in spiritual psychology.
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ED-Dawn: You have a master's degree in psychology and education, but I know that that wasn't your, initial path.
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ED-Dawn: Can you tell me about how you transitioned to doing that work from what you were originally doing, straight out of college or as a young adult?
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ED-Erin: Absolutely.
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ED-Erin: And I think this is so important because there's so many shamans and healers and lightworkers that are in jobs right now, like corporate America, like very cookie cutter corporate jobs.
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ED-Erin: And maybe they're unhappy and maybe they're not.
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ED-Erin: Maybe they're not deeply unhappy.
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ED-Erin: But they know that there's something more out there for them.
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ED-Erin: So for me, after undergrad, I worked at a healthy food restaurant with locations in Chicago, D.
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ED-Erin: C., and Denver, and I did their marketing.
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ED-Erin: So this was 2013.
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ED-Erin: And I got them on Instagram, which was actually kind of a big deal, an early adaptation it was a great job in the restaurant industry.
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ED-Erin: It was very much so in the scene.
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ED-Erin: So happy hours.
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ED-Erin: I Was dating somebody that was almost twice my age.
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ED-Erin: Like it was really a wild time because he was well known in Chicago.
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ED-Erin: And, um, I had this lifestyle of going to work nine to five, going to a happy hour after work, and it was usually, uh, heavily subsidized because it was in the restaurant industry and then I would go to a networking event and it was this really big cycle and I would wake up in the middle of the night or I'd wake up in the morning.
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ED-Erin: And my soul would call me East.
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ED-Erin: It would just say, Aaron, this isn't what you intended.
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ED-Erin: This isn't even what you really wanted.
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ED-Erin: You're anxious.
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ED-Erin: Your skin is breaking out.
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ED-Erin: You're not connected to the version of yourself, your fullest expression of self that, you know, you can access that, you know, you desire to be.
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ED-Erin: And I sometimes call this a whisper from your inner guru, your inner teacher, your inner wisdom.
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ED-Erin: And we quiet it a lot with food, wine, relationships.
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ED-Erin: Netflix, right?
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ED-Erin: We can always find something to almost insert to keep us happy with the day in and day out or at peace with the day in and day out.
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ED-Erin: However, to account for the soul, to have this deep inner check into self, there's always going to be that inner whisper that's going to guide you back to what I call your highest possible timeline.
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ED-Erin: So for me, I would hear that voice, I would hear that whisper, and I gave myself this really mindful pause.
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ED-Erin: And at the same time, I was still leading trips to Poland and Israel for teens, educating on the Holocaust and World War II, and leading trips all throughout Israel.
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ED-Erin: And I was given this opportunity to have this reset where I would be removed from my everyday rituals.
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ED-Erin: And I would be leading a tour across a land that I connect to, a land that I love.
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ED-Erin: And it would remind me of who I really am at my core and the dream that I really have for myself.
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ED-Erin: And it gave me the courage to quit my job and move to Israel, move to India, study Eastern ritual.
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ED-Erin: And that ultimately did lead me to Columbia.
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ED-Erin: my master's in clinical psychology and started building this, this business with gusto.
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ED-Erin: The most important thing that I want to share about my journey is that I actually don't find it that unique.
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ED-Erin: I think we find ourselves in maybe a more quote unquote traditional path.
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ED-Erin: Yet the thing that.
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ED-Erin: is unique as I did give myself time to pause to check in to not just go to yoga but to after yoga sit with myself with a journal with a cup of tea and ask myself what do I want my life to look like who do I really want to be what is my soul yearning for and in that silence in that quietness it was Coming back home to self.
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ED-Erin: It was drinking more water.
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ED-Erin: It was putting my feet in the earth.
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ED-Erin: It was Booking a one way plane ticket to live on the other side of the world and This may sound digestible to some people and it may sound extreme to others So all I ask for listeners is to give yourself this mindful pause Ask yourself.
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ED-Erin: Why am I the way that I am?
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ED-Erin: What do I need most in my life right now?
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ED-Erin: You And how can I take physical aligned action to do that thing to honor that deep desire and then go from there.
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ED-Dawn: I agree with you.
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ED-Dawn: I think that it is more common than people really realize.
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ED-Dawn: I have seen so many different clients in my own coaching practice and just people I've connected with through my book and podcast who also have a really difficult time figuring out what they want and what they need.
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ED-Dawn: And what they really need in order to figure out what they need is a little bit of time to pause.
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ED-Dawn: They need time with themselves and trying to find that at first.
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ED-Dawn: There's a hump to be overcome.
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ED-Dawn: You had a kind of what I would call like a fast life and an exciting life in the traditional sense, and there was a natural pause where you were taking this trip, and then you never went back to that life.
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ED-Dawn: Was that?
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ED-Dawn: Something that was difficult for you socially.
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ED-Dawn: What kind of, obstructions did you get from, you know, friends, family members, or, past co workers?
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ED-Erin: Thank you for asking this, because I was just filling out an interview for this other publication.
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ED-Erin: And I have this huge pet peeve where I feel like in the self development world or in the spiritual world, we talk about leaving behind people that don't quote unquote serve you or people that like don't get it.
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ED-Erin: And I deeply disagree with that.
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ED-Erin: My lifelong best friends are the most important people in my life and they are nothing like me.
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ED-Erin: They maybe even think I'm a little bit bananas and out there and that's absolutely okay.
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ED-Erin: It's important to honor the people that helped you become who you are.
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ED-Erin: So for me, when I moved to Israel, I was leading trips at the time.
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ED-Erin: So my flight to Israel was free and I had a great job after undergrad that financially supported me.
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ED-Erin: So at that point, if I was financially stable, I could essentially go live the life that I wanted.
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ED-Erin: And to explain this to my parents, they understood at some level that I was always kind of like this.
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ED-Erin: I was always a spiritual child.
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ED-Erin: They would explain it as in, I would ask really high level questions.
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ED-Erin: I was naturally curious.
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ED-Erin: I got along with people older than me, maybe even much older than me, like grandparents, I would say.
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ED-Erin: I also dealt with a lot of anxiety growing up and especially in college.
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ED-Erin: And that anxiety really guided me to my yoga mat, to ashrams, to spiritual centers.
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ED-Erin: And they knew that it was quite healing for me.
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ED-Erin: I also had a pretty traumatizing experience where I got mugged in college.
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ED-Erin: I don't think I've ever really talked about that before.
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ED-Erin: And getting mugged when I was at the end of my freshman year in college, It brought me back to spiritual practice and meditation as a route to heal from this, really traumatic event.
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ED-Erin: And they saw this journey of living in Israel to be part of that healing process still.
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ED-Erin: I wouldn't say they were happy about it, but they knew that That it was something that would likely be really powerful for me.
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ED-Erin: And then the thing that I think is so important to say, when I moved to India, I started with a volunteer organization for the first two months.
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ED-Erin: And when I pitched it to my parents, you know, I was 24 years old.
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ED-Erin: And I said to my parents, I'm going to do this organization in India.
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ED-Erin: It is going to support my resume.
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ED-Erin: It is going to make me look more desirable to possible other jobs that I may pursue.
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ED-Erin: So they thought of it as a resume builder.
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ED-Erin: This two month volunteer opportunity of working in the slums of Mumbai.
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ED-Erin: was going to essentially help me move forward in my career.
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ED-Erin: And that's how I pitched it to them.
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ED-Erin: I was very strategic to how I pitched it to them.
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ED-Erin: This NGO that I worked with in Mumbai, it also gave me housing.
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ED-Erin: It introduced me to the local Jewish community.
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ED-Erin: It had me connect to a community right away.
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ED-Erin: And So my parents felt very safe and having me connect to a community that I would have people on the ground supporting me.
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ED-Erin: And then I use that two months in India to, I stayed for the next four months and I lived in many different ashrams and spiritual centers and that's what I needed.
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ED-Erin: To deepen my own self development.
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ED-Erin: So I say that very clearly because I know who my parents are.
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ED-Erin: I know what it's like to grow up in the Western world.
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ED-Erin: I know deeply and completely how we need to.
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ED-Erin: almost put ourselves in a flexible box to make it understandable to the loved ones in our lives.
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ED-Erin: And I was okay complying to that for a certain period of time.
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ED-Erin: So I encourage people that if they do want to move to a new city, if they do want to live on the other side of the world, is there an organization, a job, a community that can help you get sound footing and that is going Almost quote unquote, appease the loved ones in your life to know that you are going to be safe, to know that you are going to be grounded, to know that what you are doing actually has logical next steps connected to it.
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ED-Erin: My parents always knew that I wanted to be who I am today and they didn't necessarily, I didn't need their permission, right?
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ED-Erin: I didn't need them to believe in me.
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ED-Erin: I needed them to provide a very grounded home when I returned back to Chicago.
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ED-Erin: So even in my book and I dedicate my books to my parents and I say for always leaving the hall light on because that's what they would do when I would return home.
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ED-Erin: If I was out late at night, the hall light would always be on.
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ED-Erin: I would turn it off and that's how they would know that I returned home back safely to my bed.
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ED-Erin: I didn't need my parents.
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ED-Erin: I didn't need my friends and family to believe in me.
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ED-Erin: I needed them to provide groundedness I chose to return back home.
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ED-Erin: And that was the most important thing for me.
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ED-Dawn: Sounds like you have a really, really special family.
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ED-Dawn: I love that.
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ED-Erin: Everybody's family is a family.
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ED-Erin: And I want to be like very authentic in that.
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ED-Erin: I so often hear from people in my community, from my students and clients, That nobody supports them in their life.
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ED-Erin: And that's what's really holding them back.
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ED-Erin: And I honestly just find that as another excuse, because when you have the desire to live outside of the box, then you have God's support.
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ED-Erin: You have the universe supports.
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ED-Erin: Whatever, if you're not comfortable with God, then it's a higher power as you understand it.
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ED-Erin: Choose a specific name though, for what you identify as a higher power, whether it's a deceased grandparent or relative that's guiding you or mother nature or mama Gaia.
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ED-Erin: whatever you want the verbiage to be.
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ED-Erin: We cannot let people not believing in us prevent us from taking a line to action on the deepest desire and dream.
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ED-Erin: So, yes, I'm incredibly close with my mom.
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ED-Erin: I'm incredibly close with my sister.
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ED-Erin: And I'm so grateful this, for this, my parents and My family and everybody's family is a family, which means everybody's family has dysfunction.
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ED-Erin: Everybody's family has drama.
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ED-Erin: Everybody's family has generational trauma that you need to heal.
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ED-Erin: So I don't want anybody listening to this thinking, Erin built this life and this business and accessed her dreams because she grew up in a more balanced, functional family.
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ED-Erin: I do think in some ways, yes, that like parts of that can be true because I always had a really grounded home to return back to.
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ED-Erin: And I know people talk about privilege all the time.
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ED-Erin: The greatest privilege is to have two parents that love you, right?
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ED-Erin: And also, can you still pursue the deepest desire and dream knowing that.
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ED-Erin: You can maybe return to a friend's house, an aunt's house, anything in that trajectory, still pursue the path, even with whatever family you were given,
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ED-Dawn: so you have this deeply spiritual life, and a really rich life.
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ED-Dawn: And I'm wondering how the spiritual, part of your life guides you through uncertainty.
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ED-Dawn: Yeah.
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ED-Erin: You're finding me in a very vulnerable time in my life.
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ED-Erin: I'm a new mom.
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ED-Erin: I find it to be very challenging.
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ED-Erin: I am very tired and after five, six, seven days of not sleeping, I get extremely anxious and deeply depressed.
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ED-Erin: And rage, I feel rage and that's very common for postpartum women, especially breastfeeding with all of these hormones going in and out of the body.
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ED-Erin: And I'm constantly having to remind myself to come back to my breath, to come back to divine as I understand it.
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ED-Erin: And it's hard to, when you're so far gone, right?
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ED-Erin: It's really hard to come back to a healthy headspace when you are so tired.
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ED-Erin: And it's in these moments that I do remember that I have this deep connection to God as I understand it.
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ED-Erin: And I, in this moment in time, I really am not whole right now.
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ED-Erin: I'm not whole on my own.
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ED-Erin: Thank you.
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ED-Erin: I need this divine presence in my life.
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ED-Erin: I need all the women who have come before me to enter my soul, to enter my dreams, to bring miracles into my path, to remind me of who I am in my core.
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ED-Erin: I need deep blessings and a sense of calmness and energy so that when I am able to sleep at night that I do sleep because one of my big things and I know this is big for a lot of people is sometimes Eden will sleep at night and I get in bed and I'm So anxious that I can't even fall asleep and then I it's like a double standard It's that sleep performance where I psych myself out from sleep Sleeping and then I get even more tired than before and I find myself in this repetitive cycle.
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ED-Erin: So I remind myself that even if I am laying down, I can practice lower belly breathing, I can rest, I can read a fantasy novel, I can sit in a feeling state of my deepest desires and manifestations.
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ED-Erin: I come back to the divine as I understand it and I ask for an intervention truly because I can't do it right now on my own.
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ED-Erin: So I even will open up my own book and I will come into the practices to help me realign, to help me ground, to help me heal.
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ED-Erin: I find myself meditating as I breastfeed.
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ED-Erin: I find breastfeeding to be so powerful.
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ED-Erin: What a wild thing that we can do as women.
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ED-Erin: I do find myself having these moments of clarity and a like a wakefulness like never before in this deep connection to my lineage and to all women before me.
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ED-Erin: I have so much reverence and respect for every single mother.
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ED-Erin: I have found this to be an incredible rite of passage and an initiation into motherhood.
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ED-Erin: So you're finding me at this time where I'm back into doubling my devotion and this looks like.
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ED-Erin: Getting my feet in nature, going for walks outside, trying to get in the sunshine when I can.
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ED-Erin: And then another spiritual practice that I have is how gentle can I be, right?
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ED-Erin: How gentle can I be on myself?
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ED-Erin: Can I.
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ED-Erin: Use this time to sit on the couch and watch Harry Potter or a silly rom com while feeding Eden and just allow myself to really relax in this moment.
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ED-Erin: Can I maybe lay down and take a nap with her where we're co sleeping for one of her contact naps?
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ED-Erin: How can I be more gentle on myself?
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ED-Erin: And that's the practice that I'm really leaning into right now.
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ED-Erin: And I am so not in the season of Ice baths, waking up early for a devoted sadhana, you know, waking up early at all.
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ED-Erin: I'm like leaning out of that completely.
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ED-Erin: High intensity workouts, editing my diet in any way possible.
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ED-Erin: So, that's where I am right now and Yeah, I'm in a healing cycle right now.
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ED-Erin: I have a lot to say on this, this period of time in my life.
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ED-Dawn: Tapping into your spirituality at the time when you need it the most.
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ED-Dawn: I love it.
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ED-Dawn: It's a wonderful answer, and it really applies to anyone who's going through something difficult.
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ED-Dawn: We all go through our times childbirth and, early motherhood is, is difficult in its way, big career transitions are difficult, big life transitions are difficult,
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ED-Erin: The more gentle we can be, the more powerful we become.
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ED-Dawn: that's a great quote.
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ED-Dawn: I've heard you talk before about the flexibility of entrepreneurship and the type of work life balance that you have right now is very suited for women and you feel that it's very aligned.
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ED-Dawn: Can you talk a little bit more about your opinions on that?
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ED-Erin: We all used to be entrepreneurs.
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ED-Erin: If you look at your lineage, so often our great grandparents, maybe they were farmers and they would trade corn with their neighbors to get access to meat, or maybe they had textiles, or maybe they had a transportation company.
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ED-Erin: Entrepreneurship is in almost, it's in all of our bloodlines.
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ED-Erin: That's just how the world worked not that long ago.
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ED-Erin: And especially for women, we are innately creative.
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ED-Erin: We have the ability to birth.
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ED-Erin: This is our second chakra, this is passion, desire, lust, the cradle of creativity, that good idea, the epiphany, the moment of inspiration.
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ED-Erin: This is where we birthed the book, the podcast, the Instagram posts, the YouTube channel, that unique thought.
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ED-Erin: It is so rare nowadays to have a unique thought.
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ED-Erin: And especially for us women, we need flexibility in our lives.
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ED-Erin: We are not supposed to work nine to five.
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ED-Erin: That's the lifespan of machinery.
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ED-Erin: That is the rise and fall of testosterone.
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ED-Erin: We are cyclical.
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ED-Erin: We have four different phases where we get to connect with different versions of ourselves throughout the month.
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ED-Erin: Entrepreneurship is an avenue for us to express ourselves authentically and also give us flexibility in our businesses.
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ED-Erin: So I am best known for the aligned coaching certification, which is a school year long program to become a certified meditation teacher and spiritual psychology coach.
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ED-Erin: I lead retreats around the world.
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ED-Erin: I have limitless mastermind, which is a business coaching program.
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ED-Erin: I have soul emergent, which is a spiritual course.
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ED-Erin: And I will.
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ED-Erin: Focus on my launches in a way where, you know, I'll do it when I'm ovulating, when I have a lot more energy, when I'm in my follicular phase, when estrogen is high, which is when I have more energy to show up consistently on social media.
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ED-Erin: However, for my maternity leave, as an entrepreneur, and especially being so unwell early postpartum My business deeply supported me, my business allowed me to show up for only a couple hours a week where I'm deeply nourished, connecting to my soulmate clients.
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ED-Erin: I love my work.
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ED-Erin: I am revitalized by my work.
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ED-Erin: And that for me is spiritual psychology and coaching and mentorship and being a guide and a teacher for other people that might be cooking for other people that might be caretaking.
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ED-Erin: We are as women, natural caretakers.
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ED-Erin: So I'm always going to be inclined to support women and connecting to the truth of who they are and birthing whatever that great idea is for them.
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ED-Erin: Entrepreneurship is just another way to live in alignment, We do live in a physical world.
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ED-Erin: We do live in a patriarchy.
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ED-Erin: That does mean may you earn money, a lot of money, a ton of abundance for your great work in this world.
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ED-Erin: And I do deeply enjoy helping women connect to that and figuring out what that looks like for them.
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ED-Erin: So absolutely.
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ED-Erin: Entrepreneurship is just another vehicle, another pathway to peace.
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ED-Dawn: Thank you for explaining that.
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ED-Dawn: In the last, couple of minutes we have here together, what advice you would give women who are feeling overwhelmed and stuck, like they're in that non flexible, non cyclical work environment that they can't get out of and are seeking doing something else.
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ED-Erin: Okay, there's two things I would say.
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ED-Erin: The first one is because I know this woman.
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ED-Erin: I am this woman.
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ED-Erin: I've been this woman.
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ED-Erin: It's an earlier version of me.
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ED-Erin: It's who I am.
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ED-Erin: When I'm on day five or six of not sleeping.
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ED-Erin: so the first thing I would say is you have with this ability of imagining the worst case scenario.
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ED-Erin: You also have the ability to imagine the best case scenario.
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ED-Erin: Try your best to choose that thought pattern.
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ED-Erin: And then the other thing I would say is Julia Cameron wrote the book, the artist's way, and in the artist's way, she talks about artist dates, and this is a non negotiable.
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ED-Erin: Date where you take yourself once a week to do something that nourishes you So for me, I would take myself to a coffee shop I would order a latte and I would get a scone and I would give myself time to Sit with a journal and just see what comes up for me Or my artist state would be going to a new yoga studio and taking a yoga class with a teacher.
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ED-Erin: I've yet to experience Schedule in an artist state.
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ED-Erin: It can be 30 minutes to an hour, maybe even two or three hours You Get out and do something that nourishes you and trust that a miracle will be birthed from there.
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ED-Erin: So those are the first two things I would start with.
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ED-Dawn: Great advice.
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ED-Dawn: And, not the typical advice I have gotten on this podcast.
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ED-Dawn: I love the idea of self trust and of taking yourself on a date.
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ED-Dawn: Aaron, this has been a pleasure thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
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ED-Dawn: I really appreciate your, your insights and the way that you see the world.
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ED-Dawn: So thank you.
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ED-Erin: Thank you so much for your careful questions.
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ED-Erin: They're beautiful and deeply thought out.
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ED-Erin: I so appreciate being present with you.
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ED-Erin: And if anybody wants to preorder my book, nothing can stop you.
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ED-Erin: A revolutionary guide to unleash your authentic self.
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ED-Erin: You can also get access to my uplevel meditation online course, which is a 28 day online meditation course that has helped so many of my students build a life altering headspace and meditation practice.
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ED-Erin: It is an active meditation lineage and feel free to hang out with me online on Instagram at Erin R.
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ED-Erin: Doppelt, E R I N R D O P P E L T.
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ED-Erin: Thank you so much for having me.
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ED-Dawn: You are welcome.
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I love how Erin is currently asking herself how gentle can I be?
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It's obvious that Aaron is a very spiritual person.
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We all believe in something.
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Even if you consider that something to be the absence of belief in a spiritual being.
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So I hope that the concepts we discussed today can resonate with everyone listening.
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Here are my takeaways from our conversation.
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Number one.
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We all need to find time to pause and check in with ourselves.
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Aaron likes to call this soul time.
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This can look like prayer, yoga, meditation movement.
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Travel.
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Or just playing alone time, doing something that matters to you, something where you remove some of the stress inducing inputs, and you just be.
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Aaron suggests taking yourself on regular dates.
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I agree with this concept and I have definitely recommended this to many coaching clients who have the desire for clarity, but they don't know how to get it.
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Kind of like how they say in strength, training and bodybuilding, the gains come during your rest time.
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The clarity comes when you have a regular practice of downtime and alone time and meditative time.
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Number two.
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You may not feel like you have support in your lean out journey, but trust that you do, you have support of a higher power, whatever that looks like.
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It's up to you.
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As Aaron said.
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When you have the desire to live outside the box, you have God's support.
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You have, the universe is support.
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Uh, support can look like many things.
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It doesn't have to be overt approval.
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And number three.
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Lean out from what you think you should be doing.
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That's the essence of my whole message in my book and podcast.
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But what Erin helped me realize is that I should also be saying lean into what you really want and what you really need.
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How can you tap into this intuition?
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It goes back to takeaway.
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Number one, you have to have some space to think about things.
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Try journaling, where the prompt is simply.
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What I want right now is blank.
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And it can be something super mundane or concrete, or it can be something more abstract.
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Another journal prompt would be what I need right now is blank.
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And the same rules apply.
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I may have ended a podcast with this question before, but based on these takeaways, I'm going to just run the risk of asking it again in closing today.
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And if you can't come up with an answer easily, Spend some time alone to figure it out.
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The question is.
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What do you need?
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Right now.
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