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Madness in Serie A Matchday 8! Napoli-Roma, Atalanta-Frosinone, & Inter-Fiorentina recaps! Ep. 320 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: Lots to talk about in Italy. You're on the Couch
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  Speaker 1: Don't forget to hit that subscribe button. Welcome back, Adriano.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a while.
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  Speaker 1: How are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 2: It's been a while. It's been a while. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's been a bit of a hiatus for me.
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  Speaker 3: But the guys were able to hold it down while.
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  Speaker 2: I was gone. So I definitely appreciate that. And yeah, man,
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  Speaker 2: happy to be back. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy to see you back too, man. It's been
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  Speaker 4: a while.
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  Speaker 5: I had to fill in your spot of like trying
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  Speaker 5: to talk rapidly and going on rants and rambles.
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  Speaker 4: All of a sudden I was becoming Milanista. I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 3: You could add to your arsenal of teams.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, you know, like I said, lots to talk about
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  Speaker 1: in City App, but you know, you're on the couch guys.
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  Speaker 1: We love our local soccer here in Montreal. It was
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  Speaker 1: a huge week. Lots to talk about locally between the
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  Speaker 1: three teams here in Montreal. You know, we'll get the
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  Speaker 1: bad news out of the way. CF Montreal loses to
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  Speaker 1: Forge in the Canadian Championship final. You know, shout out
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  Speaker 1: to Forge, first Canadian Premier League team to win the
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  Speaker 1: Canadian Championship. Tons of problems with CF Montreal, with fans
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  Speaker 1: not showing up to games, with, you know, getting a
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  Speaker 1: designated player, not even playing him in the Championship final.
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  Speaker 1: But let's get the bad out of the way. I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk positive. You know, first, I actually want
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  Speaker 1: to start Montreal Roses. They won the Supporter Shield in
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  Speaker 1: the Northern Super League. Their second season, obviously the league's
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  Speaker 1: second season. So they finished first in the standings, a
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  Speaker 1: pretty dominating season. I think they're finished five points above
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  Speaker 1: second place. So no sweating there for the Roses. They
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  Speaker 1: came out with a 1-0 victory on Friday, I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was. And then Sunday was the all-important match, the
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  Speaker 1: final match for IFC Supra. They came into the game
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  Speaker 1: fifth place in the CPL. They needed a win in Halifax.
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  Speaker 1: They needed some help from Cavalry against Vancouver. And they
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  Speaker 1: got it done a while back in fourth game. 4-3
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  Speaker 1: the final. It was a game in which they had
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  Speaker 1: a 2-0 lead and a 3-2 lead. And then Sean
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  Speaker 1: Reyes scores to make it 4-3. And they held on.
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  Speaker 1: They finally held on. And their friends in Calgary got
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  Speaker 1: the job done. So FC Super, after being in seventh
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  Speaker 1: place as early as five weeks ago, I believe it was,
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  Speaker 1: They were eight points out of the playoffs at one point.
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  Speaker 1: They stormed all the way back with new head coach
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  Speaker 1: Kit Saladopoulos coming in a couple of weeks ago and
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  Speaker 1: making history as the first expansion team in the CPL
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  Speaker 1: to qualify for the playoffs. It's absolutely massive, not only
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  Speaker 1: for the Supra, Montreal Roses getting the job done. These
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  Speaker 1: are two great organizations that are helping develop not only boys,
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  Speaker 1: but also girls soccer here in Montreal. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: two teams that play out of Stade Boreal and Laval.
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  Speaker 1: And I think they're really leading the example for how
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  Speaker 1: professional soccer should be done here in the city. And
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  Speaker 1: I just want to give a shout out to both clubs.
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  Speaker 1: It's beautiful to see, especially when our other club, NCF Montreal,
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  Speaker 1: is disappointing a lot of fans. I would suggest fans,
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  Speaker 1: if you're passionate about local soccer, get out this Sunday
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  Speaker 1: at Stade Boreal. Support Super against Cavalry. Get out the
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  Speaker 1: following Sunday. uh, for the roses, their opponent, opponent is
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  Speaker 1: still the, to be determined in the semifinals. Again, it's
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  Speaker 1: sad boreal for some Montreal.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Nick, I think you said it best at the beginning,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's, it's, it's been a struggle for, for, uh,
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  Speaker 5: Montreal impact. And, uh, I'm not going to call them
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  Speaker 5: FC Montreal, like, uh, CF Montreal.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to call them that.
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  Speaker 5: Um, Especially after that Canadian Championship final, and it's just
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  Speaker 5: so embarrassing. Props to Forge, but it's still embarrassing in
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  Speaker 5: a sense where it should not have come to that.
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  Speaker 5: You clearly can feel the better roster and the higher
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  Speaker 5: quality team. You don't feel your designated player. And then
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  Speaker 5: you hear.
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  Speaker 4: Alexi Sanchez saying that he wants to leave.
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  Speaker 5: He might not stick around for even to renew a
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  Speaker 5: contract or whatever, or even honor his contract. I think
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  Speaker 5: something weird like that. But nonetheless, like it just shows
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  Speaker 5: the disarray of CF Montreal. And it's nice to have,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Supra and the Roses step up during this time.
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  Speaker 5: If you want to watch good, complete, you know, soccer
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  Speaker 5: in Montreal, it's exciting. That's that like knows how to
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  Speaker 5: draw you in. And it actually has a group that
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  Speaker 5: cares about the results and cares about the team.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, that they want to buy in.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to talk shit about the players
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  Speaker 5: of CF Montreal.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about the organization.
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  Speaker 5: And we talked about it many times before where, It
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  Speaker 5: just feels like Saputo's got one foot in Montreal, one
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  Speaker 5: foot in Bologna. He's not really dedicating himself. He's spreading
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  Speaker 5: himself too thin. I know the guy's a billionaire, but, like,
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  Speaker 5: come on, man. Like, either focus on one or the
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  Speaker 5: other because you can't have, like, you're sacrificing quality for
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  Speaker 5: both teams at this point, you know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I mean, for CF Montreal, I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: know this is, our show is not, you know, really
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  Speaker 3: centered around, you know, CF Montreal, but just, you know,
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  Speaker 3: anybody that's locally that's listening, like, this is something that's
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  Speaker 3: been going on for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you're an avid.
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  Speaker 3: Fan, if you're just a neutral, if you're just a
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  Speaker 3: passerby type of fan, I mean, this is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the problems at CFM Montreal have been going on further
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  Speaker 3: than just, you know, this season.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, not to say that, and.
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  Speaker 3: I saw a lot of people saying it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with the, with the Can-Champ final, you know, it could
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  Speaker 3: have potentially quote unquote, save the season, you know, getting
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  Speaker 3: a trophy potentially under your belt with the disastrous MLS
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  Speaker 3: season that they're having and, yet again. So, um, not
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  Speaker 3: to say, you know, you're even putting a, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a small bandaid on quite a big issue, quite a
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  Speaker 3: big problem. So, um, but nevertheless, you know, they, they
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  Speaker 3: didn't get it done.
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  Speaker 2: Um, the fact, you know, again, 30, whatever old.
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  Speaker 3: He is, Alexis Sanchez, um, how he doesn't come on
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  Speaker 3: in the, in the, in the, in the game in
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  Speaker 3: the final, uh, is, is beyond me. Um, this, this
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  Speaker 3: brings us back to, uh, you know, haunting memories of, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the man who shall not be named bringing
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  Speaker 3: on or wanting to bring on Daniele De Rossi instead
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  Speaker 3: of Lorenzo Insigne.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, all those years ago for Italy.
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  Speaker 3: So, um, you know, and people that are listening, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to paint all the picture because it's
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  Speaker 3: such a negative, but, uh, you guys know what I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about, but, uh, it kind of gives me flashbacks
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  Speaker 3: of that. And, um, it, it was a shame again,
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  Speaker 3: you know, shuttle, uh, chapeau and, you know, kudos to,
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  Speaker 3: to forge, you know, they got the job done. They they've,
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  Speaker 3: They've been a winning organization in the CPL for many years.
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  Speaker 2: Doing well.
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  Speaker 3: I think making the playoffs every year since they've been
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  Speaker 3: into the league.
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  Speaker 2: So, listen, this is not a Mickey Mouse operation over there.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, they really took it to distance with
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  Speaker 3: CF Montreal. But, again, on the flip side, SC Supra, again, guys,
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  Speaker 3: anybody who's listening to the podcast, anybody who's kind of
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  Speaker 3: followed us on social media, Um, you know, every now
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  Speaker 3: and then we do, uh, try to, you know, push and, and, and,
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  Speaker 3: and post and, and, and support SC Supra.
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  Speaker 2: Um, it's, it's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, uh, you speak to, listen, I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 3: you speak to Rocco because Rocco always believes, but, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you speak to many, uh, you know, what,
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  Speaker 3: maybe a month ago, a month and a half ago,
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  Speaker 3: two months ago, whatever, whatever it was. And it was,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't looking. like a real opportunity to make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, man, we're, you know, they're down in
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  Speaker 3: seventh place. They're down by, you know, X, you know,
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  Speaker 3: X amount of points, almost double digit points. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they were able to, you know, crawl and, and climb
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  Speaker 3: up the standings, you know, down the stretch, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the last five games, they went four wins, one draw,
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  Speaker 3: change a coach, I guess might've been needed. I guess
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  Speaker 3: I was in, we're not in the, in the, in
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  Speaker 3: the four walls there day to day, day to day, but,
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  Speaker 3: from the people that we do know at the club
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  Speaker 3: and just what we've been hearing. I mean, it's, I
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  Speaker 3: guess it seemed to be like something that needed to
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  Speaker 3: be done. And I'm happy that, you know, they're able
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  Speaker 3: to make a change on the fly in the business
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  Speaker 3: end of the season and still have, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: quote unquote La Grinta to make it all the way
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  Speaker 3: to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: So for us, we're supporting Supra, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Rocco and the boys, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 3: an amazing feat, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: He said it.
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  Speaker 3: We posted about it last night. I decided to run
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  Speaker 3: and clip and try to post something because we had
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  Speaker 3: to remember Rocco saying it a year ago with the
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  Speaker 3: ambitions and the goal of the club and one being
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  Speaker 3: making the playoffs in their inaugural season. He said it
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  Speaker 3: then and it came into existence all these months and
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  Speaker 3: weeks and days later. We couldn't be more proud just
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  Speaker 3: to to see it, you know, unfold. And listen, Sunday
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  Speaker 3: is a big match, you know, one of two legs
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  Speaker 3: against Cavalry. And listen, we follow other sports in other,
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  Speaker 3: you know, other professional leagues, if it be football, soccer,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you want to throw in baseball, basketball, whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Once you make the playoffs, it's a different ball game, right? Guys,
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  Speaker 2: you know, once you get in, it's anybody's game.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying, you know, taking that, you know, metaphor,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just to say it, but it's the truth.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you get in there, the ball is round
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, right? And once you
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  Speaker 3: get into the playoffs, anything can happen. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's one game at a time for Supra. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're hoping for a good start of the first leg,
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  Speaker 3: you know, here at Stade.
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  Speaker 2: Boreal in Laval.
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  Speaker 3: So guys, if anybody's listening, definitely come and support. Go
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  Speaker 3: purchase your tickets. They're at a good price, let me
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  Speaker 3: just put it that way, uh and and really uh
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  Speaker 3: you know for the people right it's the communities club
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  Speaker 3: and uh you you could really see that uh you
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  Speaker 3: know with everything they've been doing up until now and
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  Speaker 3: um listen i took an italian to bring them to
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs right sean rea so shout out to sean.
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  Speaker 5: Rea napoli fan sean rea yeah good guy.
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  Speaker 1: In senior region Yeah, literally. Yeah, no, that's it. Well said, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Well said. You know, again, super specifically, the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Kitsilidopoulos comes in not even a month ago and did
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  Speaker 1: what he did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Incredible.
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  Speaker 2: No losses in five games, right? Four wins, one draw. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, push went to distance, right?
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  Speaker 3: I remember when he, I was listening to when he
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  Speaker 3: got appointed and it was like, oh, yeah, well, you know, we're,
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  Speaker 3: we're prepping for 2027.
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  Speaker 2: We're prepping for 2027 next year, you know?
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  Speaker 3: And in the back of, you know, many people's minds
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  Speaker 3: is like, well, you know, one result, two results, three results.
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  Speaker 3: And then you're like, well, now this is a real
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  Speaker 3: possibility of potentially getting into the playoffs. And it took
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  Speaker 3: it to the last day, I guess, you know, Rocco
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't want to have it any other way.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: All the, all the, the, the craziness at the end there.
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  Speaker 3: But again, just to stress another point before we finally
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  Speaker 3: move on, Nick, that you mentioned, finally holding on, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think, was another big, big point because, listen, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't even know if it would have came down to
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  Speaker 3: what it ended up coming down to if Super would have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, held on to a numerous amount of games
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  Speaker 3: throughout the season where they, you know, a win turned
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  Speaker 3: into a draw, a draw turned into a loss, right? So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, add those points up and, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: might not be singing this tune of, you know, biting
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  Speaker 3: our fingernails at the last match day. So, again, just
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  Speaker 3: super happy, super proud, super, you know, just excited to see.
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  Speaker 3: Super happy, super proud. Super happy, excited, and everything, all
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  Speaker 3: the emotions for the Super, because we've seen it.
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  Speaker 2: Unfold, right, guys, in front of our eyes, and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's been amazing to witness.
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  Speaker 1: Teams not holding on was a theme in the city
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  Speaker 1: this season, this past match week, let's put it that way. Um, we, we,
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  Speaker 1: we need to start a Derby de la Janine. That
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  Speaker 1: was back and forth. Uh, Napoli Roma. Um, Napoli comes
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  Speaker 1: out to a two nothing lead. And then, um, and
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  Speaker 1: then it was what? Two, two goals in a row
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  Speaker 1: from Roma. And then, sorry, three in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally McCalman, uh, scored to tight for Napoli late.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, it was the opposite.
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  Speaker 4: It was the inverse. It was two league goal for
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  Speaker 4: two goal lead for Napoli. Roma tied it in the second.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, sorry.
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  Speaker 4: And then Domini scored a beautiful goal in the 84th.
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  Speaker 2: A beautiful goal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But they tied it at the end in the 89th.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I read the numbers wrong. It's all good. Napoli
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  Speaker 1: couldn't hold on.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's been Napoli's issue most of the season, right?
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  Speaker 5: They had that 2-0 lead versus Inter earlier in the year,
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  Speaker 5: and then they lose it 3-2, right? Roma, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like they almost had a situation like that, but then
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  Speaker 5: they tied it. They might hold on to a tie
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  Speaker 5: against Inter. But that's just been the storyline for Napoli
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  Speaker 5: all season.
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  Speaker 4: It's just inconsistency. They can't hold the lead.
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  Speaker 5: The team's just all in a disarray. I'll start off
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  Speaker 5: from the Napoli side and I'll talk about the Roma
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  Speaker 5: side of things. But the Napoli side of things, this
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  Speaker 5: was a game that you weren't dominating.
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  Speaker 4: You weren't.
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  Speaker 5: All in all the better team. But you did have
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  Speaker 5: some good chances. He had some quality chances. He just
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  Speaker 5: couldn't finish.
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  Speaker 4: The Oliveira chance is probably going to haunt him.
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  Speaker 5: For the rest of his life, while Golini is going
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  Speaker 5: to put that in his highlight reels of a save
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  Speaker 5: that he pulled on a point-blank save on Oliveira. Like,
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  Speaker 5: literally point-blank. Like, the ball just has, like, the ball's
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  Speaker 5: inches from crossing the line. And, you know, Golini gets
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  Speaker 5: enough for that. The defender can get in and clear it. So, like,
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  Speaker 5: it was just a whole story of, like.
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  Speaker 5: Allegri needs to go. I don't even fault the players anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Mind you, there's some players that really.
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  Speaker 4: Have become complacent and they need to go.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm not faulting the players as much in this
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  Speaker 5: result because they're still trying. It's just Allegri's system, I guess,
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  Speaker 5: not it. Even though Napoli had the 2-0 lead, Roma
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  Speaker 5: was not going away. And you felt it, the way
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  Speaker 5: that Roma was playing. They were dominating the game. And
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  Speaker 5: it's like, okay, well, this lead's not going to hold.
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  Speaker 5: Despite it being a two-goal cushion, it's not going to hold.
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  Speaker 5: And then when McFratma scored that screamer, that beautiful, like, pocket-picked,
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  Speaker 5: corner-picked goal, I'm like, oh, my God. Okay, this is it.
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  Speaker 5: And then Balerdi, just a beautiful header. Beautiful header, like, point-blank,
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  Speaker 5: forget about it. Tie the game at the 89. Wonderfully executed.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the thing about Gasparini's system. It's like, now
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  Speaker 5: from the flip side of things, from the Romanista side
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  Speaker 5: of things, you're never out of the game. despite being
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  Speaker 5: down two goals, you know there's enough potency in the
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  Speaker 5: offense of this team that you're like, okay, well, two goals, okay,
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  Speaker 5: it's going to be tough, but it's not insurmountable.
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  Speaker 4: They can do it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if Napoli was down two goals, I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: forget about it. You know, if this was the flip side,
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  Speaker 5: Napoli would be down two goals, I'm like, forget about it.
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  Speaker 5: Napoli lost this game. Because I don't think Allegri has
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  Speaker 5: the ability to overcome these type of leads. Whereas Gasperini
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  Speaker 5: is like, okay, any offense can click in at any moment.
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  Speaker 4: And it did. It did for Roma. They were down
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  Speaker 4: 2-0 after the end of the first.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, no.
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  Speaker 5: They were down 1-0, then they went down 2-0, like, like,
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  Speaker 5: I think about, like, 20 minutes into the, I'm trying
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: to remember my timeline.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Anyways, you know, they go down, like, 2-0.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: And it's, like, 30 minutes left in the game, and
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: then they, like, they come back, and, you know, they
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: just push, and they tie it 2-2. Souley with a
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: beautiful shot, Malin with a great setup on that, and
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: then Balerdi just knowing how to win the ball in
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: the air, and that's just, like, okay, Allegri's talking about
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: defensive systems, who the fuck's covering these players, because It
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: just seems like a bunch of defensive mishaps. The first
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Valerdi goal was lack of communication, who's got who, ball balance,
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: and then Valerdi's ready to put it in. And then
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: the second one was just who's up in the air
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: to stop him. With Roma, this is a big statement.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: Even though it's not a win, it feels like a
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: huge game for them. And it's a big statement draw
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: for them, saying that, look, we were down 2-0 against Napoli,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: a team that's always been a top four contender, a
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: team that's won the Scudetto twice in the past four years.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: It's like, this is a team that, you know, they're,
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: they have a winning pedigree and they're able to come
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: back down from 2-0.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: To a 3-3 draw.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: And this is just Roma showing them that, you know,
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: like this is, we're not the same team as we
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: used to be.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: And while we actually have a belief in them, like we're,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: we're a bit of a threat.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: 15 games undefeated streak right now, going back to last season.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Like it's, Nice to see. Domestically, I'm talking about. Not internationally.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Internationally is a different story there.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: But domestically, 15 games undefeated streak, which is not something
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: to just gawk at.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, shit. This is a serious roster.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Gasparini, as much as we like to hate on Gasparini
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: and the stupid comments that he does, he's a bit
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: of a caffon and.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: The man knows how to take a team, manage them,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: and find a way for them to find success. And
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: he gets his players. He knows which players are going
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: to be good for him. He's able to identify the
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: players that fit in his system. And it's yielding results. So, like,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: the perspective, like, it's a draw. But from the Napoli
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: side of things, it's more disheartening because it's, like, another
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: lead loss. And we're lucky to get out of there
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: with a draw because it could have easily been flipped
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: for Roma. And it's like, okay, like, how long is
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: it going to take for us to, like, for Di
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Laurentiis to realize, like, Allegri is.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Just not it. It was a mistake.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: And then versus the Roma side of things where this
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: is a statement draw that shows that even though if
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: we're down 2-0, we don't give a shit. We're going
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: to push and we're going to make a tie for 3-3.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: So different strokes for different folks, I guess. That's probably
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: the best way I can describe this result of this game.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: But it feels like for... Sorry, Jack.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: No, no, go for it. For Napoli.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry, for Roma, you know, you mentioned 15 in a
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: row undefeated Serie A. But, you know, they have three
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: draws in their past four games. They're already losing ground
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: in the Scudetto race.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I know maybe.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: you know, Roma fans will say, okay, that's not their
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: ultimate goal, this and that, but the chance is there.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: And then already they're four points behind Lato and Inter.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Like the Scudetto is something that would be nice. But
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: the thing is, is that, um, no, I don't think
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: they have the full pieces to make that Scudetto push.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Like Svilar is an amazing goalie. Malin's perfect on offense.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: He got a decent backline in Mancini and, uh, and,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: and company and Ndika.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Like, it's like the pieces are starting to become, they're
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: getting there. You see maybe an upgrade in midfield, one
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: or two more upgrades. And then you could say like,
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: these guys are Scudetto contenders. It's just high, like Inter
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: is just a standard. Inter is just a gold standard.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: You know, like what made Napoli win those seasons was just,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: was just management. And just like, like the Spalletti Scudetto
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: was lightning in a bottle with El Cimen and Cavarascheglia
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: just like turning it on. And Cavarascheglia was just like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: on fire. Like, like now he's poor guys.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Was it Disney?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Torn ACL or MCL. Yeah. Wish him, wish him well.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Like Kevin, it's Kelly. I never had any hatred for
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: him leaving, by the way. Like I never, I was never,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I was never.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Cause we, we all knew that like any Napoli real honest,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Napoli fan would tell you that Napoli was just a
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: stepping stone because he even said himself, he's like real
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Madrid is his dream team.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: They'd like to go play for real. So, you know
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: what I mean?
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Like I, I'm like, Hey, you want us a championship?
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Technically he was there on the second squad at the roster.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Cause he left halfway through. So he's still considered a
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: two times Scudetti champion. Um, but like, like, so there
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: was this Spalletti year that just lightning in the bottle
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: and it just like all the, all the, all the,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: all things aligned. And then the, the Conte year was
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: just McFratma just having an MVP season, all the pieces aligning,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: you know, like.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: It just shows that look, the holes are being more
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: exposed now, you know?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So, um, But I guess in another breath, even for Roma,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: to Nick's point, the opportunity is there.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: It's still there.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Even for Lazio, I don't know if we're going to
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: push over to them later, but even for them, this
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: is a dream start. Nobody expected this for probably either
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: of the Roman teams, if I'm honest, especially with the changes,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: especially with, well, for Lazio's sake, many people obviously are
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: automatically running off Gattuso just because of what, you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: recency bias.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: But, you know, and again, the opportunity is there.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: It's a shame because, you know, Inter is Inter and,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: you know, they're pesky. And, you know, again, this weekend
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: showed that, right? The 2-1 result with Fiorentina. You know, that's...
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: If it's not Inter, you know, Fiorentina probably walks away
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: with three points in that game at the very minimum one.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: You know, just... there's no explanation.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Like, it is what it is. It's unfortunate as rival
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: fans to see it. But again, we had to witness,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: you know, nine years of Juve. So, but again, going
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: back to Roma and going to the Roman up, we match,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: you know, Derby de la Janine. Again, you have to
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: tip your hat off to Roma, especially after, you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: losing a lead in champions right to Real and, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: just the way that unfolded.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And, you know, they got maybe a bit humbled there,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: obviously by, you know, a world, a world giant. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: you know what, they come, they come into, into the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: league and, you know, going against, you know, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: a rival, you know, you know, not only geographically, but just.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Even, you know, competitively in the league.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: And I know Napoli is not where they want to
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: be on, you know, in the, in the, in the standings,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: but still, you know, perennial, you know, top team, especially
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: in these later years. And, you know, they're able to,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you know, have that never safe, you know, die attitude
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and go after.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: It and, you know, and get a result. Yeah.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: It's a shame because I think, you know, again, to
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Nick's point just earlier, you know, they.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Do drop points to, you know, to Lazio, to Inter.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Again, the season's still long, but these are going to
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: be the types of games that, And I know I
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: put Roma to win the Scudetto just to change things
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: up at the.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Beginning of the year, but if that doesn't happen, we're
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: going to look back on games like.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: This, opportunities like this that are in front of them
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and points dropped, especially against direct rivals.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: No, it's just like I.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: It's just like, there's like a, I think I mentioned,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: it's like, it was like a maturity needed from this team,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: like a, like a.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: For Roma?
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Experience for Roma.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Like it's, it's in order to, before you become a
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Scudetto champion, I feel like as if like you need,
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: there's like, there's some lessons to learn in my opinion.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. There's steps to be had. Yeah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And again, but you know, despite all that, you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Leicester won the league, right?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: You know, things do happen.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: But I get, I get your point. Absolutely.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Um, the thing I do like, or do see with
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Roma is that, you know, even with Malin, you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: many people, Oh my God, he started off the season hot,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: you know, and now like maybe cooled off a bit. I, again, I,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: when I was away, I try to pay attention.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: As much as I could to see what he was doing.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: But, um, again, getting, getting, you know, opportunities in other
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: ways and providing, you know, uh, assists or just being
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: effective in other ways. And, um, Again, even people coming
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: off the bench for Roma, I know they probably don't
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: match with.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: An Inter, let's say. But there is some quality off
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the bench, in my opinion.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: You bring on a guy like Santiago Castro. You bring
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: on a guy like Balerdi. You bring on a guy
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: like Rodrigo Moura, the young Portuguese kid, which I like
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: a lot. He seems to be a good player. So,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: you know, the back line is strong. And again, Svilar's out.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: So I think, I don't know, not to say that
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: he wins you a game. He's not going to score
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: in the goals, but he's definitely not letting them in.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: And he's saved Roma many times, you know, in seasons past. So,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe if Svilar's in and instead of Golini,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: maybe we're singing a different tune.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But again, it's... I think for you, Johnny,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: it's one of these, right?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: It's one of you just, you shake it, you shake
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: hands and you part ways. But I think on the
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Napoli end, it's just, it's, again, I don't know what
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: you guys have touched on. I think I was trying
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: to keep up with what you guys were touching upon
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: in these past weeks, Bear.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: But just weird for Napoli right now. I think it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: a weird moment. You know, Allegri. These are the things
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Milan fans were saying, you know, last season.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: And when he got hired at Napoli, it was like, well,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: let's see if something can change, you know, overnight, basically.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: But it seems like it hasn't. It seems like he's still,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: you know, in his stubborn old ways, I.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Guess you can say. And it's crazy because, and I
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: don't know what you guys feel about.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: This because I had seen it. I mean, this is
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: a while ago there, but I had seen it, you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: fluttering around on social media, you know. has these recent
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: appointments of Allegri and, you know, after the dominance of
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the nine years, right?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Or, well, he wasn't there for all of them, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: for the majority of them.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: There are these, you know, going back to Milan, now
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the Napoli job, are these ruining his legacy? And it
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: seems to be a weird one for me because it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the Allegri of old, that 2-0, that's like, iron shut
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: that's locked down like you're not getting in like you
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: know it's like trying to get into the vatican like
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: where the pope sleeps like you're not getting in there
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: right so um now i wouldn't say the louvre because
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: apparently their their their security system is is one two
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: three four there that the password there but um no
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: but joking aside like it would be locked down and
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't be able to to break an allegory type
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: team down and for him to lose a two nil
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: lead And then get sent off, disqualified, you know, suspended
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: for two match days.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he said.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Apparently to him, he didn't really say anything. You caught
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: it a bit on the audio there. Took off his
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: jacket in typical rugby fashion and walked off. But I
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: don't know, man. It's a weird one for me. And
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: in the same breath, I don't know if, you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: a change of coach in the wintertime or soon. Like,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that really, again, I don't know
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: if that, really like changes all too much for for
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Napoli and Johnny I don't know what you think but
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I know you said you know like reality I've seen
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of you know Napoli fans online saying I'll
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: agree out but who's available is the grass going to
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: be greener are they going to be able to implement
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: what they want what they need uh you know ASAP
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: and and kind of get Napoli back on track I
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know I don't have those answers for those
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: questions in my opinion and I.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: Don't have them either it's It's like, it's just, it
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: just felt like Allegri was just like the wrong appointment.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: And it was just, I don't know. Like, I think
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: like Di Laurentiis was.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Just going for like name rather than, yeah. Just because
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: he's like, okay, like I need to have a poll
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: or name.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Well, he went from Spalletti, right? To the Contes to,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you know, you have that other name in Allegri. So
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I see your point for sure.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, at one point you had a freaking, oh
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: my God.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Acelotti as your manager too. Yeah, Acelotti for sure. He's
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: always trying to go for a splash of a name
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: and just want to give somebody else an opportunity. But
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I think, honestly speaking, Italiano should have been the appointment,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: in my opinion. I feel like maybe him with this
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: kind of dynamic roster would be better fitted because maybe, yeah, sure,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: maybe Cortomuzo might still work, but you have to give
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: him the roster for it.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Allegri just happened to be in the right place at
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: the right time with Juve.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Happened to be the right place at the right time
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: for that specific Milan that won in 2011. It doesn't
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: feel like that team was because Allegri managed that team.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: It was just the roster he had was just so
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: good that fit his style that allowed him to get
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: that result. Napoli's not this defensive juggernaut in order to
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: get that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: They're not horrible defensively, but they're not going to be
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: like the Cattonaccio that you're looking for. You know what
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to say?
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: They're going to... they're going to be a team that's
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: going to, you know, leak some goals.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: So to play the Cortomuzo with them, it's.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Not going to happen.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, it's not going to happen.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Guys, another back-and-forth game was Atalanta-Frozinone. Finished 4-4, started off.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: 4-4?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 4-4. First minute, Frozinone scored. Romano Schmid. Atalanta ties
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: it up 14th. Romano Schmid makes it 2-1, Frosinone. Ederson
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Silva scores on a penalty, 2-2. 3-2 Atalanta after, with
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Krstovic second of the game. And then Frosinone started the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: second half 3-3. We're not done. It's almost like Supra
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Halifax Wanderers. 4-3 in the 50th minute with Elif Almas.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And then finally, Frosinone ties it fairly late, 82nd minute. Alexa, Alexa, Terzic,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: crazy game. And I checked the standings after this one.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Frosinone is in, I think, sixth, sixth, I believe. Yeah,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: they're ahead of Juve. Well, tied in points with Juve,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: but ahead in the standings. They're quietly up there, 4-2-2
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: this season. This is a team that, you know, employs
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of Italians. Raimondo has been making names alongside
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Malin for, the Capocannoni race. You know, Frosinone is a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: team that sometimes it's a team that Serie A needs.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: You know, when you got your Comos that almost has
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: no Italians, or at least they have a bit more now.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you need a team like Frosinone, even though maybe
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the players they have on their team aren't, you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: national team players. But when you're starting six, seven Italian players,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it's more than Juve. It's more than Milan. So it's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: cool to see it's a team. You know, let's call
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it as they are. They're from the south. You know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: some people say Lazio is center. But, you know, people
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: from Frosinone, you know, there's a couple of Frosinone immigrants
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: who live here in Montreal.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Well, my dad's town, the town where my dad was
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: born is just slightly south of Frosinone.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. They have the southern mentality. Let's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: put it that way. So, you know, I will admit
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I do have a soft spot for them. But even
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: just this game alone. You know, Atalanta, they're a weird
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: team because they came out fairly strong at the start
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of the season, but they're 11th now, three wins, one
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: draw and four losses. They've slipped up only one win
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: in their past five. So we'll see with Frosinone how
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: long they can keep it up. Again, kind of like Cali,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you don't expect them to make, you know, Europe or anything,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: but for them to finish, even if they finish top
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: 10 by season's end, I think that's an exceptional season.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I know Cali has been kind of,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: you know, picking up some L's in the later weeks, but,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: you know, them too, you know, right currently, I think
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they're still in the top 10, if I'm not mistaken,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: both those teams, even Torino, right?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The sleeping giant Torino, right, is up there
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Always eighth place.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It's, you know, just a crazy scenario to witness.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: And even going back, I know, again, I don't want
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: to bring up, you know, further back, I'd rather be
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: in the present, but, you know, even when, you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Italy was playing, you know, their, their matches, you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: they fielded two Cagliari players, right. And Daniel Maldini and,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: and Romano. So something that, you know, even last year,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: we would have not seen, I was going to say
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, but even like, you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: last season, we wouldn't have seen these types of things from,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: from these types of squads, you know, kind of reminiscing
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: of kind of like when Palermo was, you know, sending
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: some national team players, right.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Back in the day. So, It's cool to see. I
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: know Raimondo is the guy's on fire.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Even with the U21s, we hope to see him in
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: a senior national team kit soon. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Because the kid just scores, man. He just goes out
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: and he scores. I know he didn't score in this
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: game there, which I was checking on the score. I
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: was like, there's no way Raimondo didn't score.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I saw four goals. I was like, it's impossible. Unfortunately,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: he didn't.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: But, again, I think he's on par, if not ahead,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: of Malin right now in the Cabo Candidate race. Nick,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to fact-check me on that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pull that up. One second. Pull it up.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: But he's up there.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: The kid, like I said, he's scoring at a crazy rate.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I think he scored ….
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seven goals.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Seven?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: He said seven.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And now it's at six?
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Malin's at six. Gustavo Varela from Monza, quietly.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: At seven as well? Yeah, at seven.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: In one less game, actually, than Armando.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so another crazy game. And that was another crazy game, too,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, right? The Monza-Torino match, I think
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: it was, on the Friday, if I'm not mistaken.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Was it 4-3 as well or something? No, it was 3-2. 3-2,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry? Okay, yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: And he scored, I think, a brace in that game,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Or was it a triplet? I don't remember. But, again, anyways, I'm.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Kind of diverting, but For Frosinone, yeah, let's see, right?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: We said it with Como, or I wish Gianni did,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: you know, with Como. He said it with Torino back
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: in the days as well. Let's see, you know, what
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: can happen. Again, the manager at Frosinone, what is it, Alvini,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I think his name is. You know, great story with
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: him too, you know, just going through the ranks and
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: bringing up, you know, Frosinone.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: They seem to work well together.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: It's one of these things where they're going toe-to-toe with
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: You know, again, I know Atalanta's in 11th, but they're
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: going toe-to-toe with, you know, a top, especially in the
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: later years, a top team in Serie A. And who, again,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: is coached by, you know, some people love him, some
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: people hate him, but, you know, Maurizio Sarri, right? So,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: you know, good for them.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: And, you know, let's see what happens.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Cagliari, I know, is kind of, as I said earlier,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: is kind of slipping up a couple of results that
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: are kind of sliding them down the table because there
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: was a point in time where I forget it was
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: either Cali or Fresno they were in the top four
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: right like it was just like what are we doing
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: here so again we'll see what happens but it would
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: be huge to see any of those teams even Torino
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: throw Torino in there to stay in the top 10
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: you know come the end of the season again that's
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: for those three teams specifically that's that's like that's like
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: winning the Scudetto right so we'll see.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: What happens.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Anything to add Johnny No, not really, Adrian.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Adrian said it perfectly. I mean, like, it's just one
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: thing to add.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: It's like, I know you said before, Nick, actually, that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: It's nice to have these smaller clubs show up. And
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: I think it just goes to show how managerial-wise Serie A,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: how it can be so underrated because you get managers
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: behind these teams to find success with even whatever roster
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: you think that, like, that never gets the attention.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, Como beat Manchester United in Champions League.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Big time. Was it 4-1? Yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: And remember how I told you, despite Como not having
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: any Italian players, it still puts eyes on the Italian league.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Wins like that puts eyes on the Italian league. And
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: it puts a reputation. And it gives, I don't want
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: to say bragging rights, but it really helps create momentum
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: for Serie A.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: For me personally, like I, I love to see the
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: results from the smaller teams and I'll never be mad
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: when the smaller teams are making these pushes and you
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: know what, fuck it. Sometimes you have to honor their wins, man. They,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: they push hard. And if they get those wins, it's the, their, their,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: their wins that are fully earned. They're not, they're not
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: wins that are just like, you know, handed out.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: So. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a grind.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: And even going back to college quickly, just want to,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: you know, you said the managers and you made me
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: think of, obviously their manager, right. The, you know, he's come,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: he's come through the ranks. He's, he's brought them to
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: where they are. He's a young, obviously another young Italian manager. So,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: and we've said this in the past, you know, the,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: the young Italian managers that we've, that, you know, you
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: kind of, you go from, you know, I don't know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: like the Dionysus to the, the Zerbis at the time,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: you know, the Italiano Fad kind of was all over
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: the place, right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: With the results he was getting.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: And, you know, you, the Tiago Motta even right at
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: the time, you know, which, which he made a splash and,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: you know, a guy like Pizzacani, right. Uh, He looks
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: like typical no-nonsense, just the way he was back then into.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Now as a manager.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: And with Caleri, he kind of bleeds Caleri at the moment.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So it's cool, man. It's cool to see.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: As long as they don't fuck up what's going on
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: with Milan, they can have all the success that they want.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: But no, man, it's cool to see. what they've been
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: able to produce, you know, early on in the season.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: We'll see, like I said earlier.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: How long it lasts.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Inter guys, how long can they keep this up
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: coming back from games? So the Inter's played eight games.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: They've won two games with clean sheets, so they didn't
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: have to come back in those. The only time they
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: didn't have to come back besides those six games that
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: are remaining is their first game against Monza. And even then,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: they won after it was tied 1-1 at half. So
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: five games this season, they were down at some point
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: in the game, and they've come back and gotten points
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: from them. Four of those games were wins, and the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: one draw was the 2-2 Roma game. So this past weekend,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: you know, they were down 1-0 to Fiorentina, scored two
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: goals in added time from Marcus Thuram, and then a
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: penalty from Zielinski. So again, they remain first in the league.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But I feel like for Inter, at a certain point,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you're playing with fire, always having to come back, right? So,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you know, it's either going to go one or two ways.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: They're just going to continue winning games, not having to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: come back. Or they're going to start dropping points because
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: at a certain point, teams are going to learn how
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: to shut them down. uh maybe maybe not give up
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: pens um but uh so you know see it was
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it bad i actually didn't see it i didn't see
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: it either i'm gonna say it's bad i'm gonna.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Say just to poke fun at our inter friends exactly
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: but no.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Seriously it yeah they can't always come back from games
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: it's gonna go either they dominate or they're gonna drop.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Points yeah it wasn't their pots of inter for a
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: reason right and we've seen it in the past and you.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Know, finding a way, right? Johnny said it earlier, right?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: To the gold standard.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: It pains me to say as a Milanista, but, you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: they've been on top of Serie A, you know, despite
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: the blimps, you know, in those Scudetto years for Napoli
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: or even the Milan one a few seasons ago.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: And they've been up there. Change of manager as well.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Kind of people were obviously looking, oh my God, they're
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: changing from this Inzaghi era.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: And, you know, again, not a, not a, not a
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: manager that I thought would have done what he's done. Uh,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: and I, and I've, and I say that openly and, and,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: and I put my hands up and say, listen, I, I,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I misjudged, I guess, you know, Kivu's ability, uh, again,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: is he just a product of, you know, who he
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: has available? That could be one point, but again, he's
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: still getting the job done, uh, you know, in, uh,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: in an organization that again is one of the big
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: three in Italy. And, um, you know, they, at the
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: end of the day, the biggest thing to do is,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: is to win.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: So, um, it's, it's, again, I don't know if it'll
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: catch up to them.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: It's so far, like I would have to see, I
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: have to see it to believe it.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Because not even at the 90, what was it? 96th minute,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: 97 minute, whatever it was, the Linsky's penalty, uh, there,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: there's still a chance.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's, it's just incredible. It's, it's crazy.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Um, even the game, was it the Napoli game where
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: they came back, Johnny? They won the, was it 3-2, right?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: That game, I thought Napoli was, okay, finally, yes, they're
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: going to steal some points from Inter and, you.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Know, Lautaro held the game, right, that game and found
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the way to come back. Again, I don't know if
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: this is.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: 100% them finding a way or, you know, teams collapsing
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: on the other end.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Again, you can weigh all these games, you.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Know, into perspective and, again, they've done it with the
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: small teams, they've done it with the bigger teams, the
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: derby's coming up this weekend, so that's, you know, big,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: another big test, I think, from Milan's perspective, absolutely, because
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you're going against, you know, the number one team in
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: the league, and for Inter's sake, you know, again, Milan's
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: had their number a bit in the derby in recent,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: you know, matchups, so, again, another huge test, and we'll
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: see what happens, but it's a shame Fiorentina has to
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: be better, have to be able to close the game. Um, I,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: at the end there, I didn't see kind of what transpired. I,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: obviously I saw former Milan player, uh, Jimenez there, Jimenez
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: there getting, uh, getting the goal and, and, uh, really going,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: going at it with, uh, with the inter players, which,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: which as a Milanista, I'd like to see that. But, um,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: you know, Vanoli has to find a way to get
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: this team somewhat back on track because they sit at
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: the bottom of the table yet again. And, um, talking
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: about playing with fire, I think for 15 is another team.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Playing with fire. Um, you know, in.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: These past seasons, you know, they, they, they managed to escape,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: escape the fire last season. We'll see if that's the
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: same case, uh, this season, uh, with them still being
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: at the, at the bottom of the table, uh, or
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: in the, you know, the drop zone and, uh, having
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: to change a manager, uh, in that process or a
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: former manager who's now back. So, um, But again, they
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: have to be better to close out that game. But again,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: you have to put up your hands and tip your
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: cap to Inter. Pazzi Inter does it again, and they
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: found a way. And they're a team that they don't
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: even need Lataro.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Seasons ago, we would be like.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Lataro dependent, Lataro dependent, Lataro dependent. In certain cases, it
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: seems like they don't even need that anymore. That's not
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: even a worry anymore. Their captain's gone. It's next man up. Turan,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Pio Sposito. the midfield, their defense. Some of the players
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: that they feel, it's shocking to me how well they work,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: but again, they're a unit.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: They work well together. It's evident, and.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Like Johnny said earlier, they're the gold standard.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Before we move on, Johnny, anything else to add?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Do you think it catches up to them, Johnny? Because, like,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Right now, I don't see it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: If this was another league, then yes, it would happen.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: But in Serie A, I don't really see a team
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: that's stronger than Inter right now to really punish them for,
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: you know, the fire that they're playing with. You know, like,
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: it's just, you know, everyone thought Napoli was going to
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: be that team. And Napoli's really proven this year that
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: they're not that team. They don't have the capabilities.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: Uh, is it all my going to be the team
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: to punish them or lots? So even it's probably like, sure,
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: but it's, it might, it might be a surprise from
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: one of them too, but it's like, I, I don't know.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: Like what entered this year, man, there's just like, they
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: just games that they're supposed to lose and they don't lose.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they'll slip up eventually, but I just
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't see it, uh, you know, with what,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: with what they've been able to put out there so
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: far after what, what is it?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, eight Matt, uh, Eight matches, seven matches, what is it?
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Ten matches, what, eight?
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: We're at eight? So, yeah, after eight matches, they haven't,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: for me at least, I think they will eventually have
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: to slip up somewhere along the lines there, but when
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: and how and how many, I just don't know and
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I don't see it right now.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: And lastly, both of our teams got the 2-0 wins.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Juve 2-0 over Lecce. Milan 2-0. Over Udinese. For Juve,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to watch the game, so
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I can't really comment too much about it. But look,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: this is only their second win since coming back from
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the break. First in Serie A. It's been a rough goal.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: There's already talk about firing. Spalletti feels like this every year.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Same story every year. And I think it was Buffon
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: who made a good point today. You know, it's when
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you're going to go through four coaches in five years
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. At a certain point, it's not
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the coach.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I've said this to you guys before. at
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a certain point you need to just go through the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: process with whoever you hire, you stick by him, give them,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: you know, a cycle, one year, two years, whatever it is.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: You can't keep firing, whether it's, it's Mata, whether it's Tudor,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: whether it's, it's Allegri 2.0 and now Spalletti, um, you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: even went back to Saturday, like almost six years ago, right?
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Even Pirlo.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: What now is one year, you know, whatever they get
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the win. Um, You know, one thing I'll say, again,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch the game, but based on what I
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: read online, based on the highlights, it seems like the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: midfield is finally clicking between, you know, McKinney and Douglas
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Weiss scoring. It's finally clicking. I feel like, you know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: for the longest time, it was always, you know, Juve
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: has to get better in midfield, get better in midfield.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: At this point, it's the attack. It's forwards that have,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you know, are an issue, and it's the midfield that's clicking. And,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you know, even for a player like Douglas Weiss, who
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: came in, I forget, I forget if he had came...
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: come in under Mata or Tudor, and then he was
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: already loaned out. Or if he came in even under Allegra,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I already forget. You know, he came in, struggled, loaned out,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: comes back. I was surprised he stayed with the team
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: after the offseason. I really was. I was expecting him
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to leave. But I think he made an impression in
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the offseason. Look, fresh start, right? With Spalletti. And you
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: finally have a player who gave him a chance. And
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, The talent
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: was always there. Clearly, it wasn't a fit under past coaches,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and it's a fit now. It's even like you think
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: of someone like Rabiot. You know, he kind of struggled
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: under Sarri, and then under.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Allegri, he excelled. De Cattelari, another example. Exactly. There you go.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: So, you know, he's not the only player to go
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: through this. So, that's what I want to see, continue
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: seeing from Juve this season, just having that midfield. I
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: feel like their midfield and wingers are, are what drive
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: me the force. Even a guy like Albegovich, Jagova, there,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: there were guys that, that drive the play. You know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: the two, two against Ren on last week was obviously
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: disappointed in the Europa League. Offside goal, you know, it
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: was offside, unfortunate the way that the ball bounced to Lukumi,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: who was in an offside position, the ball bounced to
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: him and he scored, but that's, that's a game they
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: have to win. And, Look, they play their way to
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Genoa tomorrow.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Or no. Wednesday.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Or Monday today.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Wednesday. Yeah, Monday.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And then they play. They have the big game against
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Napoli on the weekend. And then back to Europa League
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: following that. So I just want to see some consistency.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: You know, you finally get the first Serie A win
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: after the break. Build up on that with the win
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: against Genoa. And then a win against, hopefully, against Napoli
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: on the weekend.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: You're not going to get that win against Napoli.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. It's going to be another one
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: of these, I guess, for you two. No, no, no.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: And it's funny because Legri's not even going to be
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: on the bench. He's suspended for two games.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: That's why he got suspended.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: That's why he got suspended.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: He didn't want to face his former team.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Or even, I am in Spalletti. He's going to get
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: away as well. But, yeah, I don't know.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: For Juve, it's another... Again, another weird one. It falls
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: in the same bracket for me with... Juve falls in
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: the same bracket kind of with, you know, what Napoli's
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: kind of been doing this season, what Atalanta's been.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Doing this season. Just in this.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: mess some weeks and not mess the next. It's just
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: like this limbo land of, of, of issues. But, and
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I've said this time and time again with Juve, what
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: they're able to field, like shouldn't project where they are
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: in the standings, what the results that they get. And,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: you know, the whole thing with, with Buffon said, and
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: what even we've said on this show, You can't keep
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: on firing the coach. The coach, it's the easy scapegoat, guys.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: We see it in all professional sports. Unfortunately, you can't
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: fire the team. The easiest way to go is fire
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: the coach and move on and find another coach and
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: restart that way. You can't get rid of all the players,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: even though half of them probably should go in some cases,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: whatever it is. But yeah, for Juve, man, for what
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: they're able to field, Like, their forwards, like, listen, I
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: don't rate.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: This Volta made, again, he's, for me, he's.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: A big fucking chelona up top, like, this big tree
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: trunk up top.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like, how he's, I don't know. Like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: for him, he'd go do art. I don't know.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And they thought he'd be better than Jonathan David.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Listen, David's another fucking cadaver fuck. He doesn't know if
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: he's coming or going, but, yeah. you know, Volta, whatever, Volta,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: he's got some, he's got.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Some goals, whatever, like barely.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Colomwani, another one, who I expected a bit more of,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: if I'm honest with you, Nick, did expect a bit
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: more of him. I know he had the first stint,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: which some say was good. Some say it wasn't with
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Juve the first time he comes back, wanting to come
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: back too. It's not like, it's like, oh man, like
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I'm getting loaned out and I just happened to fall
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: back at Juve. He wanted, he wanted to come back.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: He had those desires to come back and he hasn't,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: proven at least from an outsider's perspective like again i
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: don't know i don't follow the team week in week
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: out but just from an outsider's perspective he hasn't shown
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: like his willingness to come back hasn't translated on the
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: pitch in my in my opinion like how many goals
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: does he have this season like.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Two like three and it feels like they're all in
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: europa league against lower level teams.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah like wi-fi password teams like it's it can't be
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: right so um it's a shame again i do think
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Spalletti is definitely something to blame, similar to Allegri or Napoli, right?
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: You know, the players, you know, are to blame, but again,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: the manager is also to blame.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: So, you know, where do we part ways? Again, the
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: easiest option, the coach.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: So, and again, another with Juve, again, changing the coach,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think, you know, what's it going to translate to?
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Another one of this hopeful, miraculous, potential top four finishes,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: and then We'll just be speaking about the same things,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: you know, in a year's time. Again, it's not the
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: way to go in my opinion, but we'll see. Big
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: games to come, right? Like you said, Nick, midweek, which
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: I forgot about low-key, the midweek game this week.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: And then a huge weekend, right? You know, for a
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: lot of our teams, right?
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: You know, for you guys in, I don't know if
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: it's Juve, Napoli or Napoli, Juve, wherever they're playing, but
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: And then the deadbeat from Milan and Inter.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: And again, I don't know. Who's Roma playing? I didn't see.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Udinese, actually.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Udinese. Udinese has been a scrap. It's been a wash.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a weird one for Udinese as well.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: But we'll see.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Again, just a big, big, big upcoming game. So it's
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: time to, you know, the test is there. And we'll
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: see if they pass.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. That's all I could say.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: For me, one, yeah, no, you said the 2-0, yeah,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I was able to catch most of it over the weekend,
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: and yeah, just, again, just positive after the disgusting result
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: in Europa League, the 3-0 loss to Bournemouth, you know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: trying to replicate, trying to emulate Milan with the colours
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: and the story, blah, blah, blah, we love Milan, that's
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: why we picked red and black, I don't want to
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: hear that. You guys beat us, okay, but, like, you know, whatever. Like,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: that was, for me, disgusting in Europa League. And again, Nick,
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you feel about what you've been
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: in Europa League, I forget if you mentioned it already,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: but in the past, like, I don't know, man. Is
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Juve and Milan taking Europa League seriously?
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. I feel like.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Juve is, but that's also the best they could give
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: is a 2-2 draw versus Rennes.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, you tell me, right? So it's one of
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: those things. So anyways, despite the disgusting result in Europa
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: League for Milan against Bournemouth, coming back and getting a
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: result against a team that they need to get a
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: result against, that they should get a result against, even.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: With the injuries, right? Amirim has been.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Having to play around with the lineup quite a bit
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: this season. He gets asked about it quite a bit,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: at least in the past.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen him.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: These past couple of weeks, but early on in the season,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: he was changing lineups and, you know, people were asking
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: him why and what and, You know, why are you
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: not starting this player over this player and whatever the
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: case may be. And he's kind of rolled with the
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: punches and it seems like there's times where he gets
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: it right. There's times where he probably could have done
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: better and he unfortunately gets it wrong. But, you know, again,
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: in Serie A, unbeaten, right? There's four teams unbeaten and
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: they both lie in two cities, in Rome and in Milano, right? Inter, Milan,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Roma and Lazio are all the four left undefeated teams
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: in Serie A. Um, so again, you can't look past
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: that again, even though there's a handful of draws in there.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Sure. Um, but you, again, you can't look past it.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Uh, if it gets up to, uh, 15, 16, 17,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: like it was for Juve that year, uh, then maybe, okay, we're,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: we're singing a different tune, but, um, unbeaten, uh, the
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: 2-0 result without, you know, quite a few guys for
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Milan's sake, you know, losing, um, Rabiot for the match,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: you know, Hila for the match, Diego Marrera, right, for
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: the match. So other players stepping up. Pulisic, again, I
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: think slowly but surely finding his form, finding his rhythm
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: and showing, you know, showing everybody really who, Who Pulisic is,
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: the player he can be, the player he should aspire
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: to be. And even though he was going through a
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: bit of a rough moment last season into the beginning
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: of this season, a bit of the injury bug as well,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: finally finding his form a bit and scoring a beautiful goal.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: An assist of top class for me and Modric's assist
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: for the goal. you know, the long ball by Modric going,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: you know, over the top, finding Pulisic, you know, basically
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: on the foot. It's, you know, it shows the class
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: that he still has at, you know, 40, 41 years old.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: You know, it's just, I, those are the moments that
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: you kind of just sit back and say like, wow,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: we have a player like Modric, you know, in our club.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: And again, not going to play every game, even though
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: we would like to see him on the pitch, you know,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: more games, but, when he comes on and if he
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: makes an impact at that, I mean, suit him up. It's,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: it's no problem for me. So a hell of a
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: first goal for, for to open the match. And Hutchinson, again, another,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: another player who, who, you know, gets his first goal
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: for Milan, you know, comes on, you know, starts and, and,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: and has his moment and was very, I liked, I
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: liked his, I liked his play.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: And not only in this game, but even in the
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: appearances that he had.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: In Europa League and whatnot, he's shown some glimpses. I think,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: you know, Bartesaghi and Pulisic on that left side, I
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: think was really working. I got to give a shout
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: out to Bartesaghi. You know, hell of a performance stepping
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: up there in a position that isn't always his, you know,
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: kind of going more forward than being a typical defender
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: on the left flank. And, you know, having to throw
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: in Diawara at left back for the young French defender
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: who's gone in barely any minutes, stepping up in a
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: game where, you know, back against the wall for Amorim,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: kind of having nobody else to play there.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Or whatever the case was.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: And, you know, he steps in and again, I think,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I think they gave him a 6.5 rating, which I
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: think could have maybe been a 7. But again, regardless
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: of the numbers, for me it was impressive to see
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: him step up and play and get the minutes, even
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: though he hasn't really played that much this season. It
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: was good to see. Yeah, just happy for the result.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Again, like we've been saying up until now.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Two quick tests uh, for a lot of our teams, uh,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Wednesday from Yuan against, uh, believe it Bologna. And then again,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: the big, big one, the big doozy on, on Saturday, um,
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: the Derby, um.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Against Inted.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: So, uh, we'll see where we stack up, you know, currently,
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I think we are in fourth, you know, tie on
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: points with Roma and, uh, you know, it's many things can,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: in these two match days that are going to, that
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: are going to flutter, we're going to speak next week
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: and then we're going to, we might be singing a
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: different tune with how the, you know, things are going
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: to be shaking up. So definitely keep an eye for
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: the games, you know, midweek and this weekend, because there's
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of big ones.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: And for Milan's sake, it's again, one game at a time.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: And I hope they can, they can continue to stack,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: stack performances and stack wins and just results because they
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: need it, even though with a bit of an injury bug, Um,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: they're able to, uh, at least so far, they're able
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: to kind of show that in the league, Europe league
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: so far has been a different story, um, that they're
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: able to, uh, to hold their own and, uh, and get, uh,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: get results and still be undefeated.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Um, you know, a match is in. Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Like you said, Adrian, um, you know, there's these match
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: day games, uh, it's, I guess, become a bit of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a tradition. I know it's always the end of October,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: around Halloween.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: I had forgotten about it, to be honest. I was like, Jesus.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: This one, this rare midweek game. The reason I remember
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: is Juve, they had those, if you guys remember the neon,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the black. It was a black and white kit, but
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the neon and orange stripes on the shoulders.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, with that collab there? Yeah. I forget the collab. Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: It was, I believe, against Genoa, and it was around Halloween,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: and that was a whole thing.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: It was like.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: You know, it was that time of the year, you know, whatever.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: So that's how I always remember about this match day.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite kits that I have. But that's it, guys.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Forza Supra. Forza Roses.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Forza Juve, too. But, Idri, where can people find us
• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Again, to the next point, again, Supra this weekend, South Boreal,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: November 1st, 4 o'clock.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Guys, the tickets... I mean, it's crazy.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: If you're not buying the tickets, you're out of town,
• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Huge match over the weekend.
• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:50
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