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Crypto Crash the First Domino in Global Financial Collapse? (RedPill78 Interview) · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse, coming to you from the sometimes sunny Ohio, sometimes chemtrailed skies. Alright, folks. So the crypto market has lost trillions of dollars, around two thirds of its value, and what some people are calling the crypto apocalypse, where just months ago investors were bursting with optimism. Many are now in financial ruin.
• 0:31
  But is this just the first major domino in the coming global economic collapse? So folks, this crypto cat crash combined with a shaky housing market, snowballing inflation, crumbling supply chains, and the dollar on its deathbed has a lot of you concerned about what the world's financial financial future holds. So joining me today is Zach Payne, aka red pill seventy eight, and we're gonna talk about what lies ahead. So folks, if you are not following me on social media, make sure you are. I'm there as Man in America on Telegram and Truth Social.
• 1:06
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• 1:48
  So come try it out. I think you'll end up staying. And folks, look, as you'll see in today's show, the global financial system is teetering on the edge of catastrophe, especially the US dollar, which is very close to losing its status as a world reserve currency, the petrodollar. So for those of you that have had your savings in an IRA or the stock market, you may wanna consider moving your money into assets that have stood the test of time, gold and silver. And to do that, I highly recommend Noble Gold.
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• 2:55
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• 3:19
  I used to own a little bit of Bitcoin, but got out of it a couple of years ago and haven't really looked back. So but I wanna talk about I wanna bring I was looking for someone to bring on to talk about what's happening in this, but you can't talk about something happening in the financial system or something happening with cryptocurrency without understanding the whole geopolitics, what's happening around the world, and what's happening with the great reset and the central bank digital currency. And Zach was the perfect man for this. He'll be joining me shortly. But I wanna start with today's show with an article that I wanna read you some snippets from this article that, and I would say that I got this article through Mike Adams.
• 3:55
  So shout out to Mike for sharing this great content. But this author, when he pulls up for you, he really does a good job of summarizing what's happening. Because if you're researching what's happening with Bitcoin or, you know, crypto in general, you'll find a lot of financial articles that talk about it within one segment or within one slice of, you know, how it is as an investment compared to the stock market, etcetera. But what's the big picture? How does it fit into what's happening with the what they're driving us into with the New World Order?
• 4:23
  So let me pull up this article for you because this is a great place to start. So this is from on a website called the end of the American dream. It's just endoftheamericandream.com. And it's written by Michael here. So let me go ahead and read this for you.
• 4:37
  He calls it, it's the crypto apocalypse is here. Now what's interesting is this article came out June 14 when Bitcoin was dropping down to around 22, 20 3 thousand before I think it plunged down close to around 18,000, 17 thousand over the weekend. So this was ahead of that. But let me just read a few parts of this for you because it really summarizes where I think we're at. So the author says, over the last seven months, we've witnessed cryptocurrency collapse that is so epic that is truly difficult to put it into words.
• 5:10
  Last November, the total market capitalization for all cryptocurrencies crossed the $3,000,000,000,000 mark. This week, the total market cap for all cryptocurrencies actually dipped below $1,000,000,000,000. In other words, approximately two thirds of the value of all cryptocurrencies has already been wiped out. Some are calling this a crash, but the truth is this is the sort of full blown collapse that so many have been warning about for such a long time. A lot of crypto investors are now deeply in the red, and the outlook for the months ahead is very bleak.
• 5:47
  So he'll continue. And one of the questions that I have with this is, okay, you know, when when crypto goes down like this, you look at the comments, everyone's saying, hey, buy the dips, buy the dips, now's the time to buy, but is this gonna be a dip that jumps back up, or is this is this an actual collapse? Is this a destruction of something? So I'll go as he continues in this article here. So on Tuesday, so this is he's quoting the Coinbase founders.
• 6:13
  You're not sure about you know, Coinbase is one of the major trading platforms where you can store your wallet. This is actually the app I used to use a few years back to store my crypto. So the Coinbase founders, Brian Armstrong and Fred Ersham, were discussing what's happening. So on Tuesday, Coinbase announced they'd be laying off 18% of their workers. If they truly believed that cryptos would soon bounce back, they would not be making such a move.
• 6:40
  In a blog post detailing why the company has to lay off so many people, Armstrong, one of the founders, explained that he believes that we are, quote, entering a recession. Sadly, he's quite right. We are definitely entering a recession and is going to be extremely painful. So the article continues. He says, if we could actually use cryptocurrencies to buy the things that we need on a daily basis, they'd be far less volatile.
• 7:09
  But national governments around the globe would never allow that to happen. Up to this point, the primary draw for most cryptos has been the fact that many investors were convinced that they would appreciate in price. A lot of people wanted to get rich quick, and there's a lot of people that actually did. But ultimately, cryptocurrencies do not possess intrinsic value, like the dollar, for instance, or sorry, not the dollar, but like gold or silver. I really like how Mike Adams recently made this point.
• 7:36
  So he's quoting Mike Adams here. So what Mike Adams said was that you can't create real wealth by programming computers to burn electricity to solve complex mathematical problems that are presented as obstacles merely to demonstrate work. Right? Because that's how one of ways they justify the value of cryptocurrencies, it has to be mined by these computers that cost electricity, etcetera. This does not grow food, does not create steel, provide labor, mine minerals, transport gas, or perform any other useful real world function.
• 8:07
  It merely burns electricity and allows a few people for a temporary period of time to pretend like they're billionaires because they have shared ledger spreadsheets containing larger and larger numbers. So here's the ending of the article. If you were able to make a lot of money before the crypto market finally collapsed, I think that's great. Unfortunately, lot of investors are now deeply in the red. As I've reminded my readers over and over again, you only make money in the financial markets if you get out in time.
• 8:35
  Nothing in the financial world lasts forever. The crypto apocalypse is here, and it certainly won't be the last apocalypse that Wall Street experiences. So I thought that article did a good job of just framing where things are at. And so now I'm gonna bring on Zach from Red Pill seventy. If you're not familiar with Zach, he is a long term truth teller.
• 8:59
  I mean, he was telling truth when I was in my diaper still. This guy has been putting himself out there, really, really fighting against people like Media Matters and all these corrupt organizations to really expose the deep state and what's happening. So let's go ahead and welcome onto our show, Zach Payne from Red Pill seventy eight. Zach, thank you so much for being on here. Oops.
• 9:21
  Oh, there we go.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: Hear me now?
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir. There we go.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: Okay. Awesome. As I was saying, Seth, I can't tell you how excited I am to be here. Thank you very much for that warm introduction. And brave man, I see that we are live on my my former home on YouTube.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because as I was saying this show up today, I thought, you know what? I'm gonna push it a little bit. I'm gonna hop on. I'm gonna put it on YouTube and Facebook. And, you know, the only thing we can't talk about what really happened in 2020, you know, the whole Of course.
• 9:53
  Tooling thing. Right? And we can't talk about the too much or else we'll get ourselves kicked off of there. But I think today's discussion is, you know, is pretty uncensorable unless they've got an algorithm that says anybody who brings on Zach Payne is getting kicked off of YouTube. I know you're a very wanted man.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be the first time somebody's channel got deleted just for having me on. But I think that that was very, very close to the time that I was, like, deleted from YouTube. So media matters had an especial interest in me at that time. And, I mean, let's be honest. They're still very interested in my activities, but I don't think that we'll be talking about anything today that will get you deleted.
• 10:36
  We'll save that for the conversation in the after show.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a good point, actually. This is so a reminder is that, yeah, when we're over on Rise TV it's actually one of the reasons we bought we we built Rise TV is that the original founders, Ben and Rob from Edge of Wonder, were part of the group that got kicked off of YouTube. I think it was the same time as you. Right, Zach?
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I I believe we were all deleted on the same day.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was right ahead of that that fake laptop story, you know, the Hunter Biden thing that was coming out.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: That's right. Total misinformation. Russian Russian disinfo. Yeah.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yep. So we'll save any of the juicy, juicy stuff for the that last, you know, bit over on Rise TV where we can do q and a. And and the fun thing about that is that you can really ask us anything. It's not really there's kinda no holds barred over there.
• 11:19
  So we'll be getting in that. But so, Zach, I'm I'm really glad that you were able to join me today because admittedly, look, I'm not that much of a crypto person. I've always been someone that, you know, if I have any extra money, first at the you know, these days, I'm putting it into food, seeds, you know, guarding equipment, you know, fuel, those types of assets, and then maybe a little bit into gold and silver. And so I'm I'm really someone that has a great distrust for ones and zeros on a screen, but that doesn't mean that it's inherently evil or bad. I know that you're someone that you've done a good job of bridging the two realms between the hard assets you can hold in your hand and the digital.
• 11:58
  So I just wanna get your take, first off, about what's happening with crypto, but then I really wanna dive into what's the bigger picture. How does this relate to the central banking digital currency? How does it relate to the great reset, and where are we headed?
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I I see the the idea of a central bank digital currency as the Federal Reserve or, you know, any type of sovereign nation attempting to get into crypto kind of late in the game. I I think it's inevitable. Crypto is like, the coming of computers was back in the 1970s. It's happening. It's going to happen.
• 12:36
  And you can either be part of it or you can miss the boat. Central bank digital currency is not good in terms of storage of like your own personal wealth. That's going to be something that allows them to really implement one of those social credit scores, because they're truly going to have total control over every aspect of our financial lives if a CBDC is implemented. Just because it's implemented doesn't mean that we have to use it as our main store of value. There's a lot of people who are concerned about crypto because of the possibility that it could be connected to some type of apocalyptic coming of an evil person.
• 13:26
  I don't know. I'm trying to say this without getting too weird. But I don't think it necessarily is. People think that crypto is used for criminal activity and that because it's digital, that it can't be traced. That couldn't be further from the truth.
• 13:41
  I just When we talked yesterday and you said you wanted to talk about this, I was like, well, perfect timing because I literally had just talked to somebody else about it before we got on the phone. And crypto is completely traceable. There have been people who have committed some major financial crimes using cryptocurrency. And at the end of the day, they get caught because all of the ledgers are publicly available. So think about it like this.
• 14:08
  When the police are looking to connect someone to a crime, they can use your cell phone because it has a unique device identifier. They can see where it's been based upon, your travels. So they can connect it to different towers, and they can triangulate your position at the time that a crime was committed. And they can say, well, you know, you're the only person who went to Ace Hardware and then ended up at the murder scene and then also at the scene where the body was buried. Okay?
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Which is kinda like the the whole premise of 2,000 mules. Right? Using the the geotracking. Right?
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: That's correct. Yes. I wasn't gonna say it, but but, yes, that's definitely it.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Or she said, like, know, like, 1,000 donkeys since we're on YouTube.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: There you go. But so so let's say that you are a person who wants to get around the current sanctions on Russia, and you think you're gonna get cute and send $10,000,000 in Bitcoin to Vladimir Putin's wallet. Alright? The federal government can look at that major transaction because that's considered a a whale transaction. And they can say, well, whose wallet address sent this to Vladimir Putin?
• 15:17
  Because we know Vladimir Putin's wallet address, and we know that somebody had this $10,000,000 payment sent. Well, they can track that, and they can figure out that you sent that in the same way that they can track it and figure out if you pay for a hitman to murder your wife or you pay for some other crime that is traceable through the money that was sent. To me, the ultimate currency to use if you're a criminal is paper money. It's cold, hard cash. Okay?
• 15:49
  Because you can launder that cash. You can make it completely untraceable. If you launder money and you have a big pile of $1 bills and you wanna use that to purchase something illegal, then you can give that to somebody and they'll never know. The government will never know if that person launders their money. But even if they figure out that person suddenly got a bunch of money, they're not going to be able to necessarily know that it came from you.
• 16:12
  So I think that crypto is much better in terms of legality and accountability. And if you think about it, another thing that people say about crypto is that it doesn't really have any value because it's just the ones and zeros on your computer. People are just making it up out of nothing. The only reason that anything has any value is because people believe that it has value, and the same is true for paper money.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could say that a Ferrari, which is a quarter million dollar car, only has, you know, say, $10,000 worth of alloys and materials in it. Sure. Makes it a quarter million dollar car that people will line up to pay that much. Right?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And the only reason the US dollar is worth anything is because people believe that it has value. Those dollar bills printed by the Fed have nothing backing them up. It's just a promise. Okay?
• 17:05
  Crypto is, again, traceable, and people believe that it has value because it's desirable and people are are trading it, and they're willing to pay a certain amount of money for it. And right now, we are seeing the crash in the crypto market, I think as a direct result of the crash in the financial market. There's a lot of people out there who had a lot of value stored up in crypto. So at its height, Bitcoin was 65,000, 60 7 thousand, something like that. And if you find yourself in a position like we are today where everything is costing 30% more and suddenly just to survive, you need to have more money.
• 17:46
  How are you going to get it unless you have a whole bunch of crypto in your wallet? Maybe you're you're not able to go to your bank account and pull out a bunch of money to pay the extra bills. But you have 25, you sell off several of those Bitcoin, and then you have that transferred into cold hard cash and you can use it in the real world. So when you have people all over the world suddenly needing to gather that value back from their crypto and they sell it all off, that's going to cause a crash in the value. But then it continues to slide because people see that the value is sliding, and then they want to get in fear of missing out.
• 18:25
  They want to get in at that high price, get that value back out, and they start selling it too. And the point at which it's going to stabilize is when people don't need to to pull all that out again. As long as there is just average everyday trading going on and people believe that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are going to maintain their value, I don't think that it's going to be a big problem. And I see what's happening right now as a temporary issue. We've had financial crashes here in The United States.
• 18:57
  I see crypto is very similar to the stock market. We're losing value on all of these different companies. I just said in my last show that I just got off of, The United States has lost $10,000,000,000,000 in wealth since January of this year. And that's from a variety of things. That includes crypto.
• 19:17
  That includes the stock market. That includes companies shutting down, just a whole host of different things. I think all of that wealth will come back. And in the same way the stock market's gonna rise back up again, I think crypto will rise back up again as well. And I'm not touching mine because I believe that.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: That's very, very helpful. Now so what I what I what I'm kinda gathering from that is that, obviously, it's it's it's really supply and demand. Right? As as with anything. You know?
• 19:47
  If I if I sell doughnuts and, know, everyone wants one and only have 10 of them, I can sell them for a lot of money versus the, you know, the inverse of that. So I think in a normal market situation where people are, you know, relatively okay financially, then I can see how it maintains its value. But as I understand what you're saying that what happens and what's kinda caused some of the what they call the crash recently, and even like what, you know, Mike Adams is calling the the Com crash. Right? Is with with crypto is that people with inflation, with everything happening, all these businesses shutting down, you know, know, people not be able to find work, etcetera, that say they had, say, $20,000 sitting in their Coinbase account.
• 20:29
  Well, they now need to pull that out or just kinda sell off that or kinda dump their crypto, really. They they have to pull that out so they can, you know, pay rent or, you know, buy food for their family or pay for, you know, Joe Biden's gas. Right?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: So Yep.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: But the question is is because, like so what I what I follow and what I've been really focusing on is what's happening with the dollar. Because what I'm seeing play out here is that after the Ukraine war started, that kicked off a series of dominoes. And so you had those that that happened. You now have Biden sanctioning Russia because of it. But now what it looks like is happening is that China and Russia and the other BRICS nations are teaming up together to destabilize the dollar with the goal of basically removing the dollar as the petrodollar and as the world reserve currency.
• 21:23
  Now Yeah. If that happens, right, as you mentioned, you know, the dollar our our your currency since the seventies hasn't been backed by anything. It's a true fiat currency. It's worth literally nothing. It's just a promissory note that the Fed the Fed's saying, hey.
• 21:37
  Look. We we promise this is worth a hundred bucks. Okay? Thanks, Fed. We trust you a whole lot.
• 21:42
  But so with what's coming with this is that if the dollar, which people are already losing confidence, countries are losing a lot of confidence for the US dollar, And especially, you know, you have Saudi Arabia now opening up discussion about having, you know, trading oil in the yuan, which it's really the petrodollar set up by The US that's really kind of maintained the dollar dominance in the world. So if we lose that, which I I expect that we will, like that just, you know, it's almost as if, you know, they planned to do that. Right? It's as if one of part of, you know, Biden's job was to crash the dollar. That's gonna send us not into a recession, but it's gonna send us into a depression.
• 22:25
  I mean, it's gonna be a really difficult time because we're gonna see hyperinflation, I think, in America, like what you would have seen in the Weimar Republic or what you saw in Venezuela. So if that then happens, and now people, you know, say my hundred dollars is only worth $10, wouldn't you expect even more people to be pulling their money out of crypto and putting it into what's needed to survive, like oil to heat your home or whatever? And wouldn't you expect that as the global financial system starts to crumble, because so much of it is tied to the US dollar, as that crumbles it, it will continue to pull down the the crypto market with it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I I think it's absolutely possible. I I kinda feel like it's stabilized. Like, we we kind of hit, like, the low point, and it hasn't continued to go down. Like, Bitcoin's right around $20,000. Last I checked, Ethereum was around a thousand, and it could be wildly different now by the time that we're doing this show.
• 23:23
  But I think that we're at, the base level. And, yeah, it's very possible that if the if we go into a hyperinflationary situation where dollars, you know, takes a thousand dollars to buy a gallon of milk or something like that, you know, people would be better off heating their homes using paper from the money than they would from using it to buy fuel oil and stuff. But at that point, I think that crypto is going to skyrocket in value because it's not it's not tied to the American dollar. The cryptocurrency is universal across all countries. So I think at that point, like the the the coins, whatever they may be, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, anything at all, I think they're probably going to be a lot more sought after because you can use the the cryptocurrency in a number of different retail situations.
• 24:11
  You know, you could do business across countries online, purchase things in crypto. And, certainly, if that was to happen with hyperinflation, no country on earth is going to want to accept the dollar. So they may not even want your thousand dollars for a pack of cigarettes or for a gallon of milk. But heck, you give them like point zero one of a Bitcoin and they're like, absolutely, because Bitcoin is still going to have that value. So, yeah, I think that it's going to be a lot more desirable.
• 24:40
  Now, people in America might necessarily need to cash in that crypto in order to do stuff. Yeah. But I think it's gonna be more likely that they're gonna keep it in crypto form and and do business digitally.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That that also yeah. That does make sense. And I agree with you from the perspective of that. I think that America and I mean, look, you know, my whole show is called Man in America, so I definitely am looking at things through the lens of an American.
• 25:04
  And, you know, when I talk to my audience and, you know, a lot of people are, as they see the writing on the wall, you know, they're saying, you know, where should we put our money? And as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, like for me, and it's not just the advice I give, it's actually my own personal advice is that, you know, right now I'm really in much more of a stocking up, prepping stage, because I do believe that that we are heading into a situation like this. Not even, you know, talking about the food shortages, the supply chain issues, all these things that seem to really be almost like this perfect storm. Then you have the housing market, which a lot of experts are saying, you know, with with the rates, you know, rate increase from the Fed, everything, they're saying this is also, like, on the edge of complete collapse. So Oh, yeah.
• 25:47
  You know, in in a country like America where, you know, if the dollar collapses, we would we would face the the the kind of the the worst end of that here in America, obviously. That's got our that's our natural current national currency. So do you think that you would quickly see stores, for instance, be converting over to accepting Bitcoin? Because my my assessment and kinda my belief is that in that kind of situation, if you look at historically, like, say, Venezuela, for instance, people are trading Bicliters. Right?
• 26:17
  I think that we you know, in that type of situation that, you know, can people even afford to have a cell phone? Can people even afford to have, Internet? You know what mean? So my thoughts is that in that situation, it'll be returning much more to a a barter economy where maybe you've got physical gold and silver are also being traded amidst that. What what are your thoughts on that?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that both of those things will will probably happen. I I think that if we are you know, if the dollar is worthless, then people, stores are not gonna wanna accept it. I mean, we may see a total collapse of the retail market and just go to a strictly barter type society because, you know, how are they going to pay their bills to produce goods and services? And how are they going to purchase parts from China if the dollar is worthless? So, yeah, I think that we are going to to certainly the collapse of the dollar will speed the acceptance of cryptocurrency as a form of retail payment.
• 27:16
  Inevitable. It's already happening. You know, you can set it up as a payment processor to accept crypto right now. They make crypto debit cards where your wallet is connected to it, and you make a payment using that card, and it fractionally takes whatever the value of that crypto is off of your wallet total. And then you purchase that product and it's almost an immediate payment.
• 27:39
  And this is one of the main goals of crypto is to speed up the rate, the time of that processing and the settlement of that debt. Because right now with certain cryptos, it's not an instantaneous it doesn't show up immediately in your wallet. So right now, the main goal is to create the perfect cryptocurrency so that you can have an instantaneous settlement in the same way that you do with a debit or a credit card. Yes, I think that that's going to happen. And I think that people are definitely going to want to accept things of value, not just gold and silver.
• 28:17
  And don't get me wrong, I am a big gold and silver guy. Have myself prepared and stocked as well in that regard. But also just in terms of like anything of value, you said big lighters. Certainly. If we don't have the ability to produce heat in our homes because electricity or utilities are no longer being delivered, the ability to make fire is going to be key.
• 28:43
  The ability to produce and grow your own food is going to be key. I think that growing your own food is one of the smartest things you can do. Certainly being able to preserve it as well. Let's say that the dollar isn't worth anything, but you know that there's a farm down the street from your home. You have grown cucumbers and you made pickles.
• 29:03
  You want to go down the street and get yourself a gallon of milk from the Amish farmer on the corner. You probably can go down there and trade them a quart jar of pickles for that milk. I think that that's the that would definitely be the future that we'd be looking at. Now the question is, how many Americans out there are preparing for a future like that? How many of them are even clued into the fact that the dollar is teetering on the brink of collapse?
• 29:33
  I think that we've seen a lot of firsts in the last couple of years, things that people thought would never be possible here, and yet they came to pass. And I think that the collapse of the dollar is one of those things. I've been waiting for the collapse of the dollar for a long time now. So I think that everybody needs to be prepared for it, whatever it is. If it's just that you have a trade, that you have a marketable skill, you can use that as a barter.
• 30:01
  Or if you have some sort of physical store of value, such as canned foods or gold and silver, probably even all kinds of different metals. There's gonna be somebody out there who's a blacksmith at some point. And I can just imagine that. What happens if everything goes dark, nothing works and you're living in a dorm room or something like that? You don't have knives.
• 30:25
  You don't have access to a gun or bullets or something like that. You know, the the the richest per the richest people in America are probably gonna be the ones who have the ability to, make their own bullets. I think that's gonna be key.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. You know? Because I I live out in the countryside of Ohio, and, you know, you drive through the country and you see these old rundown looking homes. They're probably sitting on six acres, and they have a big barn that's just full of stuff. Like, those are the people that are gonna be really thriving.
• 30:53
  But, you know, you're bringing China into this. There's a handful of things that really tie into China. So there's a lot of reports, especially recently, have shown that the top five Bitcoin mining pools are either Chinese or linked to China. So China is heavily invested in Bitcoin. So what do you think about this?
• 31:13
  I mean, is Bitcoin in the jaws of the CCP, or what are your thoughts on that?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: No. I I think that, you know, the the allure of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, you know why it's beautiful to me is because it decentralized. It exists outside of controllable systems. I think that there is a theory that if a large enough percentage of Bitcoin is owned by a single entity such as the CCP, they could theoretically lock all of that up, take it out of circulation. But if that happens, that's just going to make what is in circulation that much more valuable.
• 31:54
  And so you're not trading a single Bitcoin. You're trading like fractions of a fraction of that Bitcoin. And so I think that there is no danger for Bitcoin to be locked up and taken out of circulation. Even if it did happen, there are any number of other cryptocurrencies out there that you can use and that are publicly traded on, you know, mainstream wallets like Coinbase and stuff. So, yeah, I'm not worried about that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: So one thing that we're seeing is more and more so that the whether it's the, you know, the the you know, The US, you know, banking institutions, the Federal Reserve, the global people, Biden himself, they're talking more and more about this push to a central banking digital currents currency or the, you know, The US, you know, kind of digital currency. So now, you know, for the the folks that are watching, if you look at what's happening in China, for instance. Right? And that's this is the fear that so many people have as you move into that type of system. So in China, there were a lot of folks that they didn't have access to their bank accounts, and they started rioting and and and kind of really getting upset about it.
• 33:01
  And all of a sudden, they realized that all of their COVID passes turned red. So, like, that is the exact that right there is what happens when you have a currency that is that's one of the great fears of the digital currency is if it's controlled by a totalitarian regime. It's like, hey. You know what? Zach Payne, you know, he was making fun of Joe Biden on his show today.
• 33:21
  Joe poor Joe Biden fell off his bike, and Zach was laughing. So, Zach, you can't buy bread for the next week. And you go to your bread line, it's like, you know, COVID or whatever it is. So that's a big concern. And obviously, you know, these the people that are pushing for this great reset in the centralized government, they want to convert us into that system.
• 33:42
  And so the enemies for them you know, realistically, right now, cash is an enemy for them because they can't control it. Gold and silver are an enemy to them. But also cryptocurrency is definitely an enemy because if you can live and you can sustain yourself off of your you know, through your Bitcoin wallet and not be forced into that system, that's a threat to them. So what do you think they're going to do to try to control the crypto market? And does that concern you at all?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I think that, ideally, what they would wanna do would be to implement a central bank digital currency and probably legislate the heck out of existing crypto currencies, making it essentially forcing people to have to use the CBDC. And this is why in my mind, existing crypto and innovation in crypto is so important, because if we can implement systems that allow for retail use of any number of different cryptocurrencies, if we can implement that all over the world and make it adopted as a de facto form of payment, then it makes it that much harder for a central bank or for the global blank, what is it, the World Bank? It makes it harder for them to implement a single standard cryptocurrency and to stop us from being able to trade and do business outside of their accepted system. And you're right, it is a huge danger to them. If we have any form of power, it makes it impossible for them to control us in the way that they want.
• 35:29
  The only way that they'd be able to implement that one world system is if they can centralize any number of these processes inside their own framework. And so that's, again, that's why I like crypto and that's why I'm going to continue using it as a as a form of storing my wealth. Not that I have a lot of money, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: It's funny because when people are like, you know, say, why do you have an ad on your show? Right? Because I, you know, I run ads or I've got we've got Rise TV. It's like, look, you don't realize this. If I was a liberal talk show, if I was if I wouldn't join the Young Turks or, you know, whatever it is, I'd be making bank.
• 36:12
  Right?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Like, you
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: know, you and I if if you and I were out there pushing, you know, trans stuff and all that, we were, you know, kind of, you know, you know, worshiping Joe Biden, we'd probably be making, like, a hundred grand a month, right, on on YouTube. Like, you can make it's people make a lot of money on there, but the reality is is that, you know, we we can't. Like, that's that's part of it is that they've cut us off, you know, and it is. That right there is an example of what happens when a digital system, especially as a digital system allows us to, you know, have a make a living is in the hands of the wrong people. It gives us that kind of it gives them that kind of control.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it. And you're right. You know, I always here's the thing. I I have never understood why someone would want to denigrate us for making a living doing what we love to do and, you know, with an honorable mission as far as I'm concerned. I mean, we are standing up in the face of tyranny.
• 37:11
  We are having the courage to get out there and say what we feel, what we believe to be true and what is objectively true. Nine times out of 10. For myself, I try to be as honorable as I possibly can. I bring integrity to what I say and how I behave. And I have just as much of a right to to survive and feed my family as anybody else.
• 37:37
  I don't think that anybody out there would go in Dan Bongino's chat and say, how dare you, Dan, give me a series of ads for my pillow or your towel company or tell us where to buy insurance, you shill. Nobody would say that. Nobody would ever say that. I think nine times out of 10, when we see things like that, this is a controlled op from the other side. We are in the midst of an information war right here.
• 38:07
  And us going on the air and speaking truth is another example of something that is in direct conflict with their overall goal to control us, our thoughts, our actions, our movements, our monetary purchases, across the board. They want to control us. And in order to do that, they have to clamp down the reins of communication. And that's why we got deleted. That's why our speech was censored.
• 38:36
  That's why we couldn't make a living doing what we were trying to do. You're absolutely right. There are people probably making hundreds of thousands of dollars every single month on YouTube if you say the right thing. And if you have the right opinions and the right beliefs, doesn't matter how true they are. So, to me, it's like we are.
• 39:05
  I can't imagine anybody saying that a reporter at a news outlet anywhere doesn't have the right to to make a living. I can't imagine anybody going on Tucker Carlson and saying, how dare you accept a salary from from Fox News? You know, the truth of the matter is we have to be creative. You know, we have to have sponsors who, by the way, don't tell us what to say. They want us to be as open and honest as possible.
• 39:31
  You know, that's the only way that you can do it. That's the only way it can be possible. You know? But Tucker Carlson, you know, he definitely gets told what to say. The people on Fox News are what not
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it. Yeah. Yeah. So I just I I always assume those people are are are clown shills that are coming into the into the chat to to try to shame you and and make you give up the mission and stop you from going out there and speaking truth.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And speaking of that, folks, if you wanna support what I'm doing, you can join Rise TV, which is our Patriot owned streaming platform built for Patriots. So if you wanna join us in the q and a at the you know, towards the latter half of the show, there's a link in the free trial below. I gotta add it was the right timing to throw that in there.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Perfect timing. Perfect timing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Zach, you know, now here's you know, as we get, you know, back to the crypto stuff, you know, here's where I often go. So I live, you know, in Central Ohio. I'm about an hour outside of Columbus. Now this year, we're seeing the most insane weather I've ever seen in Ohio. And and I think you see spend some time in Ohio so you understand In the past so this is June.
• 40:42
  And in the past probably six weeks, we've had probably six or eight violent thunderstorms, like almost tornado level thunderstorms. Winds ripping ever. We'd have multiple hairst hailstorms. The power has gone out probably four or five times. So I've got a a whole house generator.
• 41:02
  It has nothing with my last name being whole house. I just like things for the whole house. So I got a whole house generator. And I also got a whole house fan, which I'm installing soon. It's my my little cooling solution.
• 41:12
  But, you know, we've had power outages. We've we've had our Internet down, and there's even, you know, there's maps. You go watch the local news. They're saying, hey. These are the areas where they're doing rolling blackouts.
• 41:23
  So and this has always been one of my biggest concerns as it relates to crypto. And even honestly, even as it relates to having my money sitting in a bank account. So I've moved all my money just to my local bank that's literally about half a mile down the road, so I can go down there and talk to them. But this is one of the biggest concerns I've had is that, you know, what happens because they've talked about this, you know, they and they you know, whether it's Klaus Schwab or Biden, they've they've talked about this. You know, what happens if we enter into a period where they say, hey.
• 41:52
  You know what? Putin just hacked our power grid, and we're not gonna have power. We don't have power for the next thirty days. You know, for someone that is maybe hedging their bets to keep their money in crypto, how do they handle that? What what would you do about that?
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Well, quite honestly, the safest way that you can have your money in crypto is in a hardware wallet, a hardware wallet that you keep in an EMP shielding pouch so that in case there is some type of catastrophic thing that happens, you can still get to it. But I don't know how valuable it's going to be if nobody else has access to their crypto or their wallets. Eventually you will get that back. That will come back. But even the money that you have in your local bank, Seth, they don't have to keep your money in that bank.
• 42:38
  Doesn't matter if it's a local credit union or if it's Chase or Bank of America or something. Fractional reserve lending, they only got to keep 10 deposits on hand.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Actually, I think that they recently moved that to 0%.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: No. Yeah. Because I'm actually working on a show right now specifically about inflation and all the banking, you know, Babylonian money magic. And I think it was within the last year, they moved it so that a bank had to keep 0%, which is that's I mean, that that is literally straight up money magic where they can just lend out money that is just numbers and zeros.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know, as far as I'm concerned, there there really isn't all that much difference between the fiat system and the cryptocurrency system, except that crypto, you actually have, like, tracking of it. And you can make sure that that that coin is actually still there. If they don't even have to keep any of your money in there, I would so so maybe five, ten people go into the bank on a given day and say, I want all of my deposits back. That would be enough to to to be to have to to create a it's a wonderful life scenario, like run on the bank.
• 43:43
  So, yeah, I mean, in terms of all of your money, it's difficult to tell people that you should have all of your savings gold or silver because I prefer silver because I think it's an easier exchange of value if you find yourself in a situation like that. Not many people are gonna wanna break up a 1 ounce gold coin. And of course, whoever that person is that you're looking to do some bartering with, yeah, they'll they'll be happy to take a 1 ounce gold coin for a gallon of milk, you know, but they'll probably also be as happy to take a one ounce silver coin, but that's even still like too much money. So, yeah. You know, I think that, having as much as you can in silver is probably the smartest scenario.
• 44:30
  But if the power goes out, if we if we end up in a Mad Max style dystopian future, you know, I don't know how much any of it's gonna matter. The only thing that's gonna matter is if you have the ability to grow food, you know, and bullets.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So and and I I I love this discussion because I I think, obviously, you and I had different perspectives on this. And my perspective has always been, look, you know, like, because people ask me sometimes, you know, say, hey, look, if I've got a hundred grand in my savings account, what would you recommend I do with it? And I always recommend, okay, well, first the first question I always ask is how much have you prepared? You know, because if you're saying, well, look, Even if you have a hundred thousand dollars in gold and silver and crypto, if you don't have seeds, if you don't have, you know, a couple thousand rounds of ammunition and a couple guns that you know how to use, if you don't have any of those things, well, start there.
• 45:22
  Or if you don't have any land to grow food on, you know, can you buy some land near near your house for a small garden? But, you know, from your perspective, if someone's coming to you and saying, hey, look, you know, I've got X amount of money in the bank that really is just savings. I'm not touching it or saying IRA. You know, what is your perspective about what should go into, say, just cash on hand, you know, precious metals, crypto? How would you approach that?
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just being honest for me, I've got several thousand dollars worth of seeds here at my house. I've got a year's worth of nonperishable survival food. I have many thousands of rounds of ammunition a number of guns. And I have a couple of thousand dollars on hand. And then I don't even know how much gold and silver I've got.
• 46:14
  I've got a number of different tubes of twenty five one ounce silver coins. And I really don't know. I mean, it's different for everybody, but I mean, like, I think having a couple thousand dollars on hand in case you have an emergency, I mean, a couple thousand bucks. I mean, you know, that's like your, your ball joint goes out now in your car or something like that. You know?
• 46:36
  Having, as much silver as you physically can, how much can you fit into a safe? You know? I mean, you don't want it just like sitting out in the living room because the worst thing that could possibly happen, somebody comes over and wants it from you. You know? Same with your guns.
• 46:50
  You know? How many guns can you keep in a safe? How how many rounds of ammunition can you put into your closet before it puts a strain on the floorboards? You know? I don't know that there is I don't know that there there is a way to quantify exactly how much somebody have.
• 47:06
  Because I am not a financial adviser, not financial advice. I think that the the amounts are going to be different for everybody. But, you know, I think maybe ask yourself, you know, what would it take for you to feel safe? You know, the reason I have so many seeds is because I know that if it comes down to it, people are going to need to eat first and foremost. To be able to trade those, it's going to be even more valuable than precious metal because you can't eat precious metal.
• 47:33
  You know? And and and if we've got, you know, roving bandits of of antifa running all over the place, stealing gasoline from people's cars, you know? I mean, yeah, not much is gonna matter at that point.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That is that is a good point. I mean so it is it is helpful for me to understand, though, that just your general perspective is that basically, you know, even in a total collapse scenario that eventually crypto would rebound as a way of kind of being the one of those first levels of of bartering in a society. And so and that that that makes sense. You know, my my perspective is still, look, you know, I'm much more about things I can hold in my hand.
• 48:15
  You know, I'm very even having, again, even having money in a local bank, that makes me nervous. You know, I'd rather have
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I'd rather have just cash sitting, you know, in a in a shoebox up in a in a floorboard or something like that, you know, something that's really protected. But, you know, one thing that, you know, and I really struggle with with crypto in general. Obviously, yes, there is the there's supply and demand of it. Right? Which which does give it its value.
• 48:44
  But all but at the same time, the US dollar gains its value from supply and demand. So, you know, if you look at if you look at Rome as an example, right, their the denarii, I think there's I forget the exact currency name. Denarii or denarii, and I forget. What is it, Kate? Yeah.
• 49:01
  Denari. Okay. Is that, you know, at a certain point, you know, it was gold and silver, and they eventually took it similar to America. They took it to they kept removing the amount of silver in it, the amount of precious metal in it until it was nothing, and they experienced hyperinflation. It's almost like Rome was a practice run for modern day America.
• 49:19
  Or it's like the elites looked at Rome and said, okay, let's do exactly what they did. So but so that's just one example of that. If you look at, say, what happened with Celsius, right, with, you know, the the crypto trading company, is that they're also in a lot of ways doing this, you know, fractional lending, you know, where they're lending out a portion, they're taking people's investments in crypto, then they're reinvesting in something else and keeping just enough to satisfy. So I mean, is it really is crypto really all that different than a fiat currency and its vulnerability? Because let's just say even if, you know, say if things really kind of, you know, kinda hit the fan in America, and if you have a lot of the American people that pull their money out of crypto, you know, it doesn't have any intrinsic intrinsic value.
• 50:07
  It's not backed by by anything really. So does that cause concern for you?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, in a manner of speaking. Yeah. I I don't I don't think it has all that much difference. The one difference and the important difference is that it's not controlled by any government or sovereign leader. It's completely in the hands of the people, very democratic in that sense.
• 50:33
  And that's why, again, that's why I like it because it's not controlled by anybody. It's an entire point of existence is to be decentralized and to put the financial power into the hands of average everyday people. And where is it? Is it is it Ecuador or something like that where where they've they've recently adopted Bitcoin as, like, an official currency?
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I think I think El Salvador, I think, was also El Salvador.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's it's El Salvador. Yeah. Because I was I was trying to think about the right wing death squads back in the day. Yes.
• 51:06
  El Salvador. The fact that they're using Bitcoin there as an official currency and everybody has to accept it, it's an official currency and they've adopted it, normalizing it for people. But the government of El Salvador doesn't have any power over that cryptocurrency. Every single person holds that themselves. And it's completely outside of the purview of the government.
• 51:35
  Now the government can regulate the manner in which crypto can be used. They might put some specific protections on it or legislate how and when it can be used. One thing that I would like to see from governments is perhaps some type of of insurance on the amount of crypto that you have because just recently, there was a huge collapse in something called Luna and Tether.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, I saw that. Like, what? The loss of, what, 97, 90 eight percent was value?
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, $3,000,000,000 wiped out overnight. You know? And those people that got left holding the bag, people who got rug pulled, those were just average everyday people. Those were people who believed in Luna and its store of value.
• 52:25
  And overnight, there were a couple of people who sought to destabilize it and destroy it. And they did. They were able to. So, yeah, there is a major vulnerability in crypto. Bitcoin and Ethereum, though, are like the oldest and most accepted.
• 52:45
  And I think that as people innovate and create safeguards within the specific cryptocurrencies that they're working on, I think there may be ways to overcome that and to remove some of those inherent vulnerabilities. But again, for me, it's all about taking the power, taking that financial power away from central banks and giving it to people like us.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: And that's that's a really helpful perspective because and I agree that, you know, if you look at how the cabal or whatever you wanna call these, you know, criminals, how they've really controlled our world, a lot of it has been through fiat currency, you know, through something that's really not that different than cryptocurrency, but the big difference is that they control it. They can print, you know, $30,000,000,000,000 if they want to and flood the market, And that's been a weapon that they've used to really enslave people, you know, not just the American people, I mean, that are forced to buy, you know, can have, you know, their US dollar reserves and everything that's happening globally. So this is very helpful for me. So understanding from your perspective that it's really even though, yes, it's not backed by anything. And I'm I'm kinda summarizing this because also for a lot of our our viewers, they're asking me questions, Seth, what do think about crypto?
• 54:03
  And so, basically, your perspective is that even though it's it really is not that different from a fiat currency, it's not backed by anything, it could go to zero overnight, hypothetically. What what gives you your perspective on, what gives you your confidence in it is that you're looking at it as a way for people around the world to create a system not controlled by the central bankers. And that that's a part of it. It's a way of waging war against the central bankers by, you know, a lot of ways, a global currency that is, by the people for the people.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Know, I mean, forces are gonna be market forces. And I think that through the actions of the free market, like that's how we will come to determine which cryptocurrencies are going to survive and which ones are going to fail. And there will be crashes along the way. There will also be incredible gains that people are able to make.
• 55:02
  But it's going to continue to slide the power of the official currencies of various countries, whatever the central banks are putting out. Because as more people convert their wealth and start doing business in cryptocurrencies and stop doing business in the official currency of the country, it takes a large part of their bargaining chip, their global bargaining chips and the power that they hold over people. And that's why I was saying I don't like the central bank digital currency because you put it pretty succinctly. The government can just, at a whim, shut down your wallet. They can make it so that you're unable to purchase, to buy food or to pay your bills.
• 55:49
  But as long as you have a currency out there that is not controlled by them, you can still do business. And the same is true for gold and silver. I mean, they don't really want you to have gold and silver. They would rather that you just had everything in fiat. But as long as you have yourself prepared with any number of items that are of value to you or to your community, then I think you you hold more power than you might realize.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: That's that's helpful. So, folks, we are in the next couple of minutes gonna transition over to Rise TV for the q and a. Before we go over there, Zach, where can people find your work? How can they support you? Where can they follow you?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: You can find all of my work at my website, redpill78news.com. And, that's the only website that I have. I I have a number of accounts on on on Rumble. You can find me on Rumble. It's Rumble.com/redpill70eight.
• 56:48
  Bit shoot bit shoot Com forward / red pill 70 eight. Red pill 70 8 on Gab TV, on Getr, on Truth Social, on Gab. And there's a couple of yes. Telegram, it's like official Red Pill seventy eight channel. Hold on.
• 57:05
  I'll have to actually look at that one. I had to change it just a little bit because there are so many fakers out there
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: On Telegram. So
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: And I'll share I'll share your information on my Telegram for all the people that are following me there as well.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Cool. So, yes, it's official Red Pill seventy eight channel. One other thing, if you do join the telegram and somebody named official Red Pill seventy eight channel messages you and wants to rope you into some type of crypto or gold and silver scheme, that's not me. Channels do not have the power to message their subscribers. You have an account that is specifically for messaging.
• 57:44
  And then using that account, you create channels where you broadcast information. So there's a huge problem with that on Telegram, people in all number of channels that are being scammed on stuff. I had somebody who actually emailed me and was like, I looked into that business, he told me, and the Better Business Bureau doesn't know who they are. And I gave you my social security number. And I was like, no.
• 58:07
  I was like, I've said this so many times on the channel. Don't do it. But primarily, the easiest way to find me is at my website. But I broadcast live and I put up my videos, my red pill news on Rumble. Definitely also make sure that you join pilled.net, P I L L E D Net.
• 58:29
  And you can watch me on the Foxhole. Those are sister sites, and it's going to become just the Foxhole at some time in the future. But that's an excellent live streaming platform that was created by several of my friends. They're Patriots, and there's a whole bunch of channels on there. And you can also find me on Roku.
• 58:50
  I also have a redpill78.TV where you can join on Roku and watch on your television at home.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, great. And it also a quick note to the people that are following me on Telegram. If I message you wanting you to buy some sort of cryptocurrency, obviously, you know, that's not my position. That should be a giant red flag. But keep an eye for that.
• 59:11
  Even I get messages from men in America trying to sell me things. So, like, I got one this morning. Right? My my wife got messaged yesterday from men in America trying to, you know, kinda rope her into something. So people just be vigilant, be cautious, and make sure you're also you're following me on primarily, I'm most active on Telegram and Truth Social in both both places as men in America.
• 59:35
  And somehow I still have my YouTube account up. So thank goodness I'm still there, and I can still reach an audience there. Though my the main place I'm really, you know, driving people is Rumble, and, of course, over on Rise TV. So folks, we're now gonna hop over to Rise TV for the really, really juicy and extra uncensored live chat, live q and a. I've already got some questions coming in.
• 59:58
  And we even have a special guest. So Zach, your mom is currently online over at Rise TV in the audience. So and actually, my mom might also be on there.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: She's gonna be a family.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad to hear that. Love you, mom.
• 1:00:15
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• 1:00:32
  Last message. Yes.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Thing. You can also support the show directly if you feel so inclined at Cash App. Also, buy me a coffee and then, of course, directly through my website and SubscribeStar. All of those things are on the website.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: That's it. Because mirror folks,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: as we mentioned, you know, folks like Jack and myself Zach and myself, you know, we are being persecuted by these these big companies, and so they make it really, really hard. Honestly, by now, Zach would be like a multimillionaire. You know, he'd probably have 5,000,000 people on YouTube. He'd be driving around in a Bentley. But instead, you know, he's just he's fighting for the truth and getting by.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: That's right. And some I, you know, I don't know that people think about this, but honestly, what Seth and I do is at great personal cost. If we wanted to sell out, if we wanted to just be rich, then there is a formula. And you can look at the Young Turks. You can look at people like David Pakman, those type of people.
• 1:01:29
  Obviously, we have very different beliefs. But it's possible. There are a lot of people out there who do podcasts and who do broadcasts, and the only thing they have in mind is how much money they can make. That's not why I'm here. That's not why I started this.
• 1:01:45
  And I put my neck on the line, okay, for real.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And even when I put the first video out there that ended up going viral from Trump, I was getting death threats. I was getting people that found my cell phone number and were calling my cell phone number, leaving like really messages. People were calling my business at the time. So, you know, this is like as you said, this is an information war.
• 1:02:09
  So we're out there on the front lines fighting together. So alright, folks. So please come join us over at Rise TV. We're gonna have a lot of fun over there. So Dom, you can go ahead and cut our public streams, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook.
• 1:02:21
  And also, if you're on Rumble watching run sorry. If you're on YouTube or Facebook, please at least go to Rumble in the future because Rumble has really done a good job over there. So
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: alright. Yeah. Big up folks to Rumble.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Yes. So folks, we are now gonna be on Rise TV only. Let me pull up by my Cut the stream. Yeah. Cut the stream.
• 1:02:39
  You know, pull the rip cord. So if you have any questions at all in the chat, just write question and, you know, give us your question and I we will go through them all. Now, Zach, we this normally lasts about a half an hour or so. Are you okay on time for this?
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  Speaker 2: I am. Can I can I run to the restroom real quick?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I'll be right back. Alright.
• 1:03:04
  So okay. So so Zach is out of stream currently, so he's running to the restroom. And so, folks, first off, thank you for being part of Rise TV. You are you are the reason why I do what I do, honestly. And I really thank you for that.
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  Again, if you have any questions, post them, let us know. Let me go ahead and get my questions up while Zach is running off. Okay, great. We have a lot of questions already. Wonderful.
• 1:03:32
  We're gonna have some fun with this. And remember, these these questions don't have to be about cryptocurrency. These questions can be about, you know, what kind of beard oil I use or what brand of vape Zach is vaping. I mean, it's it's it's we can be diving into anything here. Well, first I have my comment from mom1776 who says, Hi, Seth.
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  Hi, mom. It's nice to see you here. Also, we got Rob Counts, who's in the house live over on the chat. So make sure you say hello to Rob. And let's see.
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  I'm just kinda looking through the questions here. And looks like Zach is back. So alright. So, Zach, let's see. Is your audio working?
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  Speaker 2: It should be.
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  Speaker 1: Great. Alright. So Supu asked this is more of a of a wondering. She goes, I wonder how much money Elon Musk lost. Do you know the figures of what he lost?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: No. I'm not aware, but I think that whatever he might have lost would be a drop in the bucket. Certainly, Elon Musk has a lot of money in crypto, but I would imagine he probably looks at it in the same way that I do. It's a long term investment. There are many people out there who make really good money, like doing day trading on crypto in the same way that they do in stocks.
• 1:04:57
  I look at it as a retirement account. The stuff that you're buying for your retirement portfolio, quite often people purchase the stocks and then the stocks just sit there. You just keep it as a store of wealth as well. If you're looking to make a lot of money in crypto, then you've got to be watching the market and seeing where stuff is at and being ready to sell it at a moment's notice. Not a lot of people have the time to do that.
• 1:05:27
  So I I I don't believe that Elon Musk would have a significant amount of his wealth in in crypto. He has a lot compared to what we have, but it's not gonna make him or break him.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a good question by this guy, Rob Counts, who seems to be a troll on the, Rose TV.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that name. He
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  Speaker 1: says actually, your mom is asking, did you wash your hands?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, mom. Come on. You taught me. You taught me better.
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  Speaker 1: So Rob asks, crypto is viewed by the globalist the exact same way as the US dollar. They want to force all of us into a state of reliance on the globalist system and social credit system. How can crypto survive this?
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  Speaker 2: Because the crypto that is produced by engineers and programmers outside of a central bank digital currency, once it's created, it's not centralized. And there may be like a governing board, but it's not like that crypto is being controlled by a central bank. So Bitcoin, each of these cryptos have what's called a white paper. And it lays out the mission and it lays out exactly how it's supposed to work and the direction that it's going. So the only way that I personally am worried about cryptocurrency in terms of the new world order is a central bank digital currency.
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  And I just wouldn't participate in that.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Is there I mean, is there a potential that and I can see it's playing out that there's some sort of false flag event? Like, let's pretend that a building gets blown up, which we know are often, you know, conveniently done to hide evidence or whatever. But then say that that, you know, Biden comes out with the Dartmouth, you know, the DHS, and then they say that, you know what? That we we traced it back and the terrorists were funded through, you know, anonymous cryptocurrency. And because of this, we're actually gonna start cracking down on cryptocurrency, and you can only use it for this stuff, and yet to yet to then you get your cryptocurrency license.
• 1:07:44
  I mean, could they use some sort of event like that as a way to really kind of start attacking the system? Because I think that they're already starting that kind of discussion, aren't they?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I wouldn't put anything past them. But what I was saying early on in the show is that all wallet addresses are publicly available. So if a if a terrorist financing operation was identified and and they knew the the wallet address that money was being sent to and from, all they would have to do would be to follow all of the addresses that had ever done any business with that wallet, and it would lead directly to people or organizations. And truthfully, crypto is a lot less anonymous than people think it is. Just because there's not a name attached to it when you see a transaction on a ledger doesn't mean that you can't pretty easily determine who that person is.
• 1:08:37
  I have my wallet addresses shared publicly in the description of every single video. There are a number of high profile people like social media influencers, people like Jake Paul, who have had their integrity called into question very recently because they've been involved in modern day pump and dump schemes where they go to their millions of followers and they say, I'm going to buy Milf coin and it's going to go to the moon. You should buy it. This is not a joke. It actually happened.
• 1:09:07
  Milf coin. And they put their own wallet address out there because they want people to donate crypto to them or to send them donations and stuff. So we can tell you right away, this wallet address belongs to Jake Paul. So Jake Paul goes out there, tells people to buy Milf coin. He says he's buying and he's holding.
• 1:09:28
  All of his millions of followers go out and buy Milf coin. That pushes the price of Milf coin sky high. And then the next day, he goes and sells it and makes $20,000,000. Okay? The federal government could very easily look at that and then quickly charge him in an SEC crime.
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  And that's happened recently with a number of different people.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, think right right now, beyond I think it's Beyonce and someone else that's like a maybe it's one of, like, you know, Floyd Mayweather or one of the the big kind of celebrities.
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  Speaker 2: They're being think Floyd.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. They're being sued over this exact same thing that they're pushing these kind of, like, celebrity coins and, you know Yep. So Rob had a follow-up question, which which makes kind of takes us straight into the issue. He says, is it true or says that certain wallets are trackable, but I'm curious or say he's saying it is true certain wallets are trackable, he's curious to know what your thoughts are on why crypto is the number one currency used on the dark net according to his knowledge, like, also for human trafficking.
• 1:10:29
  So if it is that trackable, we I guess, you know, why is it so often used for exactly what you're talking about? Per you know, buying Hitman, you know, illicit drugs, humans, adrenochrome. Who knows?
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  Speaker 2: So crypto is undoubtedly used in the, you know, the the the process of criminal activity. But is it used more than laundered money for criminal activity? I don't know that to be the case. I think that anything that you can trade for value is something that can be used in the commission of a crime. And until cryptocurrency came into being, certainly cash was the only thing that was used.
• 1:11:12
  Think about all of the instances, like, I'm sorry. I'm drawing a blank on the bank that was taken down during the mid eighties. They were like the institution, the financial institution of choice for Colombian drug traffickers. They were also doing business with terrorists. Right now, there are criminals all over the world who are doing business out in the open and they have bank accounts and they commit crimes and they get paid for it.
• 1:11:44
  And they have that money inside financial institutions. Chase Bank, Bank of America, you name a financial institution and I guarantee you, there's dirty money that's going through there. And those people are allowed to get away with it because if they didn't do business with those criminals, think about how much money they would be missing out on. So certainly on the dark web, cryptocurrency is used, for illicit activities. But unless that wallet address is completely private and has never been exposed in any way, then there is that's still the way that they would ever be able to stay completely anonymous.
• 1:12:27
  But if you are buying something on the dark web and let's say that your IP address is somehow exposed, then that wallet address can be connected to your IP address, which can be directly connected to your home address, and they can identify who you are. So, yeah, I I think that quite I think I think that cash is truly the currency of choice for for criminals.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: And I guess, I mean, maybe in terms of online criminal activity, like, so if you're going to the dark web, perhaps. But, yeah, you're right. I'm I'm sure that the online transactions for, like, criminal activity are probably point 1% compared to just cash. Know? People people probably they're not probably Venmoing their buddy for, you know, weed, for instance.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: But no. But people are doing that too. Like, you can go on Instagram and have, like, cocaine and marijuana delivered to your house. And the people who have these accounts, they got their Venmo in their bio. Like people are like, it's across the board.
• 1:13:29
  Okay. If there's a way that criminals can get money and transfer value for drugs or services, they're going to do it. So I think that crypto has to me, the idea that crypto is somehow more susceptible to that. That's a narrative that's been spun in order to stop the wide scale adoption of it because, you know, I mean, it's anything. You know?
• 1:13:53
  I mean, I could trade a shovel for a a murder if I wanted. You know? I mean, it's like if somebody needs a shovel bad enough and I need somebody killed bad enough, you know, I find the right guy. There you go.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: You know? And, actually, you could use a shovel to bury the body afterwards. It's kind of
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: a win win. Right? Double doobie. Double doobie. You know?
• 1:14:11
  Think about how much gold went missing after World War two. Think about the $2,300,000,000,000 of money that was unaccounted for on 09/10/2001. Think about all of that gold in the basement of the World Trade Centers that went missing on September 11. I mean, truly, there are other forms of currency that are far more anonymous than cryptocurrency. If I've got $100,000 in gold and somebody needs to leave the face of the earth, then I think that I could probably find somebody who'd be willing to take it, and they could very easily wash it and convert it into, nontraceable funds.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: So here's a question from both Metal Avenger and Dubb. They say this is probably a question we would have expected. Are there certain types of cryptos that you recommend to invest in and certain wallets to use? With so many crypto choices, how can you tell which is the best value?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a really tough question. It depends on how you want to be invested in crypto. Are you looking at it as a long term investment? Are you looking to day trade and make money, on a daily basis?
• 1:15:26
  There are too many different types of cryptocurrencies out there for me to recommend, like anything specific other than Bitcoin and Ethereum. And the only reason I recommend anything related to Bitcoin and Ethereum is because those are the oldest and most widely accepted and, most widely used in the course of commerce. That's the best I can do for you. I have a sponsor who they day trade in crypto and they would be the ones to recommend what types of cryptocurrencies are good because the market is ever changing. It would be like me telling you to go invest in Amazon or something like that.
• 1:16:06
  And now all of a sudden, there's going to be an economic retail downturn. And so Amazon's gonna lose value. I'm not a financial adviser. So there are certainly people out there who devote their entire day to doing these things. And I really recommend that you talk to them.
• 1:16:22
  But I think that in general, Bitcoin and Ethereum are safe bets, especially if you're looking to hold it for long term because undoubtedly, it's gonna go back up again. Right now, because it's been such a huge dip, I think that it's only gonna go up. But please don't go buy Ethereum and then send me a message if it goes down.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Any particular wallet you can recommend?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Honestly, I think that CoinDesk is probably like the largest and safest and most widely adopted. Oh, no. Wait a second. CoinDesk is a crypto news site.
• 1:17:01
  It's Coinbase. I'm sorry. Coinbase. They're also if you've got Cash App, Cash App is allowing you to store crypto now. I think I saw that PayPal is allowing you to store crypto.
• 1:17:13
  I use PayPal. They kicked me off. But I think that the safest way to store your crypto is in your own hardware wallet that you possess, because that's the only way that you know where your crypto is, that something bad isn't going to happen. You mentioned Celsius. Okay.
• 1:17:33
  Celsius recently halted all withdrawals because of the crypto crash, because they were on the verge of going insolvent, losing liquidity. And they had to stop withdrawals so that everybody wouldn't just keep pulling everything out. It was like a run on the bank. Beyond that, it's recommending a financial institution. I think it's safest to have your money in a local credit union.
• 1:18:01
  But again, based upon the scenarios we've been discussing, if some horrific event, some apocalyptic event happens, I don't know that any of them are going to be safer than the others. But again, a hardware wallet that you possess yourself that you can keep in an EMP shield so that it doesn't you know, get destroyed. I think that's that's probably the safest thing you could do.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Actually, here's an interesting question. This is from Rebuilding the Truth. Zach, what is your opinion of the at q account on Truth Social?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I think that the at q account on Truth Social is a man, this is a deep one. Okay. So let's we're gonna have to go a little bit further back. Okay. I think at the heart of it, it is not the same voice that was on the boards.
• 1:18:57
  Okay? I think that it's meant to be this is gonna sound callous and cold, but a sort of marketing tool in order to give us some measure of hope, and understanding that there is stuff happening behind the scenes. The people who followed the boards, that's a massive part, a massive, number of people within the Trump base. And in order for those people to remain engaged, I think that this account was created to interact and allow for us to still have just something to give us a rallying cry. I think that the people behind it may be and probably are.
• 1:19:51
  I just don't have evidence that I can present. I think that there are individuals connected to the original accounts on the boards that are also connected to this account. If I had to guess, I think I would say that there are a number of people who are behind it. It's not just a single individual. And I think that it's at the heart of it all part of the same operation.
• 1:20:15
  But I've always thought Dan Scavino had been involved from the very beginning. Dan Scavino is a marketing genius. Dan Scavino knows social media and how to use it to maximum effect. I think that that was certainly done with the original account. I think that it's also being done with this.
• 1:20:33
  I think there's also a measure of trolling going on, not against us, but against the mainstream media. What a mind screw for people to go on there and see that this account joined before president Trump. I think that it's definitely something cool, but I don't think anybody should be looking at it and expecting it to be delivering the same type of posts or information that we were getting on the boards. But I I definitely think that people who were involved in the original are involved in this.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. I remember when it first started happening and people were freaking out. It was like, oh my gosh, this. And yeah, that that does make sense.
• 1:21:18
  So here actually, here's a question from Kate who says, we all know about NSA surveillance and spying, and yet we trust that crypto is totally safe even though the SHA two five six hash was created by the NSA. Isn't this naive, especially considering how hard they try to bring it down if it really was a threat? And that's an interesting point too. That's something that I've thought about, and I'll kind of add is a little bit of my my own perspective that as well is that, like, I feel like so we know that the military industrial complex, the military in general, the deep state, they've got technology that is decades and decades ahead of where we're at now. And so Mhmm.
• 1:21:57
  Even the entire crypto system, this kind of kind of pulls into that question. It's like, do we do we even know what the NSA is capable of? Like, do they have is there a layer of control that we may not even know about that exists within the crypto market? And how is it that we can trust it even though we know that the NSA is probably has already tapped into my cell phone. They're listening to me through my my little Mac mini.
• 1:22:19
  They're looking at me through my camera on my monitor. What what are your thoughts about that?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I feel the exact same way. I have no illusions or expectations of privacy in this modern age. And I think that undoubtedly the technology that the federal government possesses is light years beyond what we are aware of right now. And I just assume that anything I do or say that is in the presence of an electronic device and even outside of it. I mean, just think about the sophisticated listening devices that the government must possess, the ability to, you know, look through walls and see what we're doing.
• 1:22:57
  I assume that every single thing that I do or say has the ability to be tracked or Yes. Or think at this point, it's true. I've said it a couple of times before. I think that anything that we know about publicly is probably at least thirty years behind in terms of development from what the government actually has. So I have given it up a long time ago to try to have any illusions of privacy.
• 1:23:27
  And that's kinda sad, but that's that's how I feel.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: It is. Here's a good question from Drumdog who says, why can't a crypto be backed by gold? And I thought that there was a crypto that was backed by gold.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: It it can. It can. There are things called algorithmic stablecoins, which are supposed to have, like, a dollar for dollar value. And they're, I I believe that Tether was supposed to be backed by some type of physical wealth, whether it was just a fiat dollar or some type of precious metal. I have heard before that there was supposed to be a specific crypto that was backed by a certain amount of gold.
• 1:24:06
  It can be. It can be. But it's a lot easier for people to make a new algorithm and create a cryptocurrency that is simply based upon the the faith and trust of its users. There are a lot of there are a lot of shady cryptos out there, guys, in the same way that there are shady people all over the world. I would never suggest that anybody get involved in anything without doing a prodigious amount of research and investigation beforehand because I don't trust anybody.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: So here's a question from kicking cabals daily, which is one of my favorite usernames.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Who actually says, Seth, please tell us the most important thing you learned this week. So I'm gonna first pass that question on to you, then I'll give my thought as well. Zach so Zach, what is the most important thing that you've learned this week?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. That's a really good question. I I don't even know that I could answer that. Well, it's it's in the last week. How's how's about that?
• 1:25:20
  Okay. This is a personal thing. It it's not like a newsworthy item or anything like that. I I you know, something interesting that I learned is that Pope Francis might be retiring. And I just talked about this on my show, but I'm sure you're aware of Nostradamus, the prophecies of Nostradamus.
• 1:25:42
  Okay. His prophecy of the black pope. There is people have have speculated that the head of the Jesuits is the black pope or that that Francis himself was the black pope just based upon the content and and quality of of his spiritual being. But there is a pretty good chance that if Francis steps down, the next pope is actually going to be a black man. And it could literally end up being that we have a black pope.
• 1:26:14
  The black pope is supposed to be the herald of the apocalypse. We are also embroiled in an international skirmish right now between Russia and essentially the entirety of the new world order. So maybe Nostradamus' prediction is going to come true. All the better reason to make sure that you're prepared in the event of some catastrophic failure of the system. But I think the most important thing that I learned, this is for me personally, I had a car that was a lease, And I had to give it back to dealership.
• 1:26:49
  And because of how crazy pricing is on everything, on cars and everything else, Used car values are just insane. And as a result, in order to get a new car, the new cars have been marked up by 5 or $10,000. This could become very handy to you in the very near future if you have to get a new vehicle. And I learned when I went in to talk to the dealership about what I was going to do because I thought maybe I was just going to purchase the lease and refinance it. And the guy, the dealer told me that they would be willing to buy the lease from me, even though I didn't own the car.
• 1:27:37
  And so like they gave me $10,000 to give them that car back so that they could sell it to people because there are not enough cars out there.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: And and if you if you request a specific type of car from the, from the manufacturer, doesn't have to be fancy. All it has to have is a single option, something that they don't have in stock. They have to deliver that car to you and you only have to pay MSRP. So not only will you not have a 5 or $10,000 markup on a new car because you're not getting it from the lot, You if you have a car that you can trade back to them or sell to somebody else, you can probably make a really good profit on it. So, yeah, they can't
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: sell above the MSRP. Right. They have an agreement with
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: the That's the thing. That's the thing. They they they yeah, they can't sell the used cars over MSRP. So they're marking up new cars by like $10. Okay.
• 1:28:37
  Because the value of the used cars is so great. So this was not a car that I owned. I had only been leasing it and they gave me $10,000 I didn't have to buy the car. Like there were a whole bunch of dealerships that were calling me wanting the car. And if I would have bought it from the dealership, I would have paid the taxes and then I would have taken a loss.
• 1:28:56
  But I still would have made money if I would have sold it to another dealership. So this dealership, they just took it. They gave me $10 and I ordered a car that had like a sunroof. Okay. Yes.
• 1:29:10
  I told them to put a sunroof in it and and it was not worth $10,000 I'll tell you that right now. But I saved a whole bunch of money and I got a whole bunch of free money. So that was very important in terms of my ability to manage my my funds because I had to get a new car. There was nothing that I could do about it. It just didn't make any sense to buy a used car.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Good. Very actually, important lesson, I'd say right now. Yeah. So if I had to summarize, I'll make it quick. The most important thing I learned this past week I think I'm learning something new every day.
• 1:29:46
  I'm learning how to I I got a tractor recently. So I'm learning how to use my tractor, just a little Kubota with, like, a front end loader, and I I love it. I learned that I need to get some some rear weights for it because I'm picking up lots of big things, the the the back wheels kinda come off some of the ground sometimes. I'm always pushing it to its max. But the real thing I think I really learned, it's not like I learned some fact or some lesson, but it was sometimes for me learning something is when I really grasp something on a deep level.
• 1:30:16
  And a lot of it actually came out in the Friday Night Live episode that we did this past Friday, and I had Justin Duchamp and his co host, and then Simon Essler was on for part of it too. But I feel like what I took away from that was this this solid this the kind of formation of this really kind of idea, this concept of the importance of community, and especially in prepping. Because a lot of people that they they really wanna go use okay. So prepping is, I'm gonna buy, like, a thousand cans of beans and 10,000 rounds of ammo, etcetera. But for some reason, it really hit me on a much more deep level that the importance of community and also shifting my mindset towards a future where survival is not protecting your own assets from everyone who wants to take them.
• 1:31:07
  Survival is building a community of people close to you and sharing assets in exchange in a fair value, whether it's education, etc, and thriving together from that. And so I've really shifted my mind and thinking, and you know, because right now, my wife and I are building massive gardens all over our property. We're, you know, in fruit forests and kitchen gardens, and we're doing terrace gardens up the hills around our house. And, you know, we thought about it say, You know what, like we need to bring all of our neighbors in here and show them what they're doing and teach their kids how to garden and give them seeds like that's so I'm looking at prepping in a whole different way than I used to, which is more about like, okay, how do I collect as much as I need to survive and have enough ammo to defend it? Right?
• 1:31:50
  That was absolutely a big realization for me.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The first thing I did when I moved here was go around and introduce myself to as many neighbors as I could find. Yeah. I I I felt that way for a very long time. You know?
• 1:32:04
  I mean, it it's it's inevitable that this system is not gonna last, and it's been closer to collapse than at any time in our lives. So that's, you know, the most important thing in life, I think. You're right.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So, folks, we are it's past 03:30 now. Zach, I want to thank you so very much for coming on the show. Want to do this again, actually. This this was a a fantastic conversation.
• 1:32:31
  Any last thoughts, you know, or or words of advice or tips for the audience before we sign off?
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean, I besides preparing for something like this, I think another aspect, an important aspect of community is actually like being proactive in your community, not simply having people that you can rely on. But we're going to need to replace all of these corrupt bureaucrats that have run our country into the ground. And so you watching this show right now have to be prepared to potentially step up and take the place of somebody who's no longer gonna be there. So whether that's involved in local politics or the school board or county commission or simply just taking on a leadership role and making sure that people are aware that you have your head in the right place. I think that right now we're in a unique spot in American history.
• 1:33:30
  I think that in November, if they don't crash the whole thing before November, then we're going to see a record number of America first patriots that will be taking office in Washington DC. But we have to foster that lower level, the local level of leaders all around our country so that we have a built in chain of incredible people who have their head in the right place and who have the best interest of every American at heart. Because unless we foster that leadership within our own homes and within our families, there's no way that we're going to be able to implement it out in the real world when it's time. So I wanna thank you for having me, Seth, and this was awesome. And I now that we have each other's phone numbers, I gotta have you on the show too.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So, folks, thank you again for watching. And for all of you that are here watching, tune back in at 07:30 tonight because Ben and Rob, Edge of Wonder, are gonna be doing a fantastic live show all about crypto again, but they're gonna have their perspective. And it's actually gonna be, I think, a little bit more of a debate because Rob is much more in like the the Seth camp, and Ben is more in the Zach So I'd love to see those two, you know, pulling out the boxing gloves and going at it. So, again, everyone on Rise TV, thank you so much.
• 1:34:48
  A big shout out both to Zach's mom and my mom. Thank you for joining us. It's a it's a family event here over at Rise TV. And Always. I will be back on Thursday, and it looks like I'll be interviewing Scott Kesterson on Thursday.
• 1:35:02
  Oh. Which I
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: was actually gonna suggest to you that you had Scott on.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: I think
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be going on to doing an interview with him tomorrow night, and I think that he's coming back on on Thursday, which I'm very excited for. He's honestly, he's he's probably the most often played podcast in our home. Oh, yeah. He's he's a great guy. Know you I listen to your interviews with him whenever whenever you're on his show.
• 1:35:25
  Always enjoy those. So that's gonna be exciting. So, Zach, yeah, thanks again for following. And everyone, remember, go to redpillredpill78news.comDotcom. To follow what Zach is doing.
• 1:35:39
  So alright, everyone. Thank you so much. Take care. God bless. Have a wonderful rest of your day, and I will see you on Thursday.