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• Cody: Hey everyone, welcome back to another edition of AGT time. We're at our season twenty one wrap up and of course I'm here with AGT Commenter and Minnesota Ryan. How you guys doing? Minnesota Ryan: Let's go. AGTCommenter: It's great to be here. Like you said, wrap up. We're putting a bow a little less than a week after the finale on on season twenty-one. Episode four fifty, Cody, in AGT time history, Cody: Yes, said Minnesota Ryan: Wow. AGTCommenter: as as we sit here. we've had a lot of milestones. Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: Cause every year, like we do sixty episodes a year, so it doesn't take us that long to do the hundred. Like every two years we get to talk about a hundred. And each individual person keeps like cross crossing like thresholds. So I just don't know if we can get super into the f the f the the fifties and the seventy fives and the twenty fives 'cause we just have enough mil we have enough milestones. Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: I'll hit two hundred personally, this off season. So but Ryan, great to see you. go ahead. Cody: Four for four four sorry, four fifty we usually go with some sort of IT web error. AGTCommenter: Yes. Cody: This is the blocked by windows parental controls error. Four fifty. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah. So look out. Could get explicit on this on this week's episode. good to see you, Ryan. on for your your f I think fourth appearance of the season. excited Minnesota Ryan: The season, yes. It's been it's been a different season. That's all right. AGTCommenter: to finish off, polish off some analytics. We're gonna do a whole bunch of stuff today, Cody. We've got Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: side competition recap, we gotta figure out who won. Final analytics from all that stuff. Where do these acts? We got a brand new batch of ten acts that that are finalists that are on the leaderboard now. Talk about all that stuff and everything and and get ready for an off season coming up that I'm looking forward to too. So Cody, how about you tell people where to find us? And then you've got a few things you gotta take care of Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: too. Cody: Yes. So you can find us on our socials at AGT Time Pod. You can email us AGT Timepod at gmail.com. Check out our website, AGT timepod.com. Ever almost everything that we're talking about in this episode, it's gonna be on the website. Leaderboard stuff. All that's gonna be on the website. So go check that out. We should have that updated pretty soon. And you can find Commenter out there at AGT Commenter and Ryan out there at Minnesota Ryan. Commenter Ryan, I have AGTCommenter: Under underscore underscore ride. We'll s we'll kick off here's we'll just start arrows and omissions right now, Cody. There's there's one Minnesota Ryan: Underscore underscore. Very important. Cody: you're right. I my my apologies. It is the Minnesota underscore Ryan. I gotta make sure that's right. So I have an errors and omissions from the the recap, the season sorry, the finals recap episode from Thursday night. Taylor Swift came up in that episode because AGTCommenter: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Cody: a song that she sang was performed and I said I had never heard that song before. And I found out that yes, there are plays. I'd actually have listened to that song before, but it's on her reputation album. AGTCommenter: Yes. Cody: And I don't listen to the Reputation album. No, no. It's her kind of emo album. Is that yeah. AGTCommenter: I'm not a huge fan of the album. I agree. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Cody: there's there's plays on it because when I got the albums I would just play them to kind of just listen to and get familiar with AGTCommenter: Sure. Yeah. Cody: the songs. But I th it hasn't been played since February. So that's just an album I don't listen to. AGTCommenter: Yeah. What song was it again? Cody: It's look what you made me do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So AGTCommenter: That's what it was, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: Mm, mm. Cody: it's it's in it I you know, I I I may add it to the playlist. I don't know. It's kind of different than some of the other songs. But yeah, that's just one of those albums AGTCommenter: Okay. Cody: that I is not my my thing. So that's my error and omission there's plays on it only because I played the album to get familiar with the songs when I first got the album. So AGTCommenter: Honesty's important to us, Cody, here and integrity. We're journalists. We and when when we just lie just blatantly lie to everybody, we have to Cody: Yes. That's right. That's right. Th no, th there was no lie. It was just I was confused. Like I I was I I you know, I was I was Mel B for a moment, right? So yeah, yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Mm, mm, mm. Cody: the other thing I got, so Saturday was a big day for me. Big huge AGTCommenter: Big day. Cody: huge day for me. It's it's a day that I've act literally actually been waiting for for thirty years. AGTCommenter: Thirty. Cody: it was it was Texas at Tennessee. I've been waiting. I've lived in this area for 30 years. I've listened, I've heard all the Tennessee fans, all the jokes, AGTCommenter: Mm. Cody: all the whatnot. And so I've been waiting for the day that Texas would come and play in Knoxville. And that finally happened. And like all the things just aligned. They're number one. A Manning is quarterback of the Texas team playing in AGTCommenter: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Cody: Tennessee. The weather was beautiful. Donald Trump was there. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Cody: you know, just just All these things kind of just aligned and it was serendipitous. So AGTCommenter: Serendipitous. Yeah. Cody: I went I I I had to go to the game. I went to the game. I got tickets literally like three rows from the top of Nealand Stadium. AGTCommenter: Great view. Cody: Great. It was actually a really, really nice view. I was northwest end zone. I could see the entire field. Not a problem with where I was sitting. But I did have some observations AGTCommenter: Mm. Cody: from the game. Not necessarily just I'm not gonna talk. Texas, Tennessee. Just in general, AGTCommenter: Yeah, yeah. Cody: just like observations of being 'cause I don't get to go to games very often. This is this is probably my fourth time seeing Texas play in the last nine years. So and I went to C T C so five college football games in in nine years. I I just don't get to go very often. so just a few observations that I had. You got your football guys. I'll commenter, you played, you coached, Ryan, you're you're AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yep. Cody: a football guy. So Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: kinda wanna get your see what your thoughts are on these. why do people pay a lot of money to go to a football game and then get up in the middle of the game to go get concessions? Why do they do that? And AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cody: then they're gone for like an entire quarter. AGTCommenter: Yeah. It's it's the lines, right? You're trying to you you don't wanna go when at halftime 'cause then you you're gonna miss some anyways because it takes so long. I just don't know why you wouldn't go like first quarter. Let's go, let's get Cody: Right. Yeah. AGTCommenter: some stuff taken care of. We might miss a drive here. It's on the TV's out there, you can catch it. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: yeah, but go getting up in the middle of the third quarter and running to the concessions for twenty minutes makes no sense. Yeah, I agree. Cody: Yeah. The the lady next to me got up I think at at the end of the first quarter or maybe the beginning of the second quarter, she was gone 'til like halftime. So just AGTCommenter: Yeah, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, a lot of people Cody: it was it was Minnesota Ryan: go go to those games for just the environment. I know in Cody: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: the collegiate world too it's way more common. obviously I don't cheer for a team as good as your team when it comes to college. Mine are the Minnesota Golden Gulfers. Let's go. Cody: Ha ha ha. Minnesota Ryan: but like it for us, like most our stadium is gone by the fourth quarter half of games 'cause people just wanted to be there for the first and then left. so I AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: know that that some people aren't there for the game. I know we are football fans, we love football, we want to watch Cody: Yeah. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: the game, but there's a lot of people that don't, that'll be my guess. But yeah, it frustrates me too. Cody: Yeah, and maybe if I went if I had season tickets and I went every week, I might have a different mindset. But I don't go that I go once a year, maybe every other year, AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Cody: whatever it may be. So I'm like, I want to watch the game. I'm there to like watch Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: watch the game. second thought. Marching bands need to play more. They just do. Marching Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Cody: bands need to play more during there's too much No, it's in the game in the game. Within the game. Within the game. Like AGTCommenter: In in life or just in the game within the game? Okay. Minnesota Ryan: Ha ha ha. AGTCommenter: On the field, you're saying. Got it. Cody: No, in the st when they're in the stands. Yeah in the stands. Minnesota Ryan: No in the stands. Yeah. Cody: Yeah. So there's too much like PA music and PA stuff going on. The marching bands need to do more, right? Just just that. They just AGTCommenter: J sure. Yeah. Okay. I don't disagree. Cody: they just need to play more. And also the Tennessee band, this just side note, Tennessee band was piped through the sound system. It's like Yeah. Can't y'all are y'all y'all aren't loud enough to like play through the whole stadium? So anyway, marching AGTCommenter: Mm. Tacky. Yeah. Mm. Cody: bands, they need to play more during the game. More pep songs, more fight songs, whatever. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Like that's like that's fair, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: I don't hate that. Yeah. Cody: number three. There's a lot of dead time in person. There's a lot of dead time in the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I I saw Minnesota Ryan: Yes. I so much. AGTCommenter: Yeah. You don't realize how much that guy with the big orange gloves stands on the twenty yard line and says wait till TV's cut back. Minnesota Ryan: Yep. Yep. Cody: him. They had that they had the guy they had a guy with holding a timer and they had another guy big red shirt. Yep, I AGTCommenter: Yep. Yep. Yep. Cody: saw him. And there's just like you don't realize it when you're sitting at home watching it on TV. But when Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: you're there, it's like, man, there's a lot of dead time. It was he was incredible. You miss things like I'm probably not gonna say like a defensive player getting an unsportsman like conduct penalty and not knowing why. You know, that type stuff. AGTCommenter: Hm. Sure. You y the re yeah, the replay accessibility is not great. If you if you don't catch it you're yeah, yep. Cody: No, it's not great. Yeah, because the the home team doesn't show a lot of what the visiting team did. AGTCommenter: Sure. Cody: Yeah, especially they don't do a lot of replays up on the big screen. So you miss a lot of that stuff. and then f my last observation, it's great not having to listen to the commentary. Sorry, commenter. It's great not having to listen to the commentary, but then AGTCommenter: Sure, sure, sure. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: Ha ha ha Cody: but then you get to have fun with people around you, especially like in AGTCommenter: Right. Cody: close games, fun games. The people we were around were great people. There was a lot of fun kinda having fun with them, high fiving them, egging them on. They egged me on as well. But, you know, nothing got nothing got vicious. Nothing got AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Cody: you know, n nothing got belligerent, none of that stuff. It was a lot of fun AGTCommenter: Right. Cody: just kinda having a good environment with people that are enjoying the game as well. So th Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: those are my kind of observations of what I had while I was at the the game. AGTCommenter: Yeah, but nothing worse than bad commentating Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: on a football like on a sports game. 'Cause y yeah, Minnesota Ryan: True. AGTCommenter: you can't y good like there's some that I'm excited that they're on the call. I think, you know, Buck and Ankman do a great job. There's really great announcers, but you're right. was Cody: Mm-hmm. I I have found myself listening to radio broadcasts more than watching the T V broadcast. It feels like you get that 'cause the the radio broadcasts they're more AGTCommenter: It's a hometown thing. Yeah. Cody: well, it's a hometown thing. That's exactly it. So it feels like you're actually there more when you're listening to it on the radio. AGTCommenter: Sure. Cody: So AGTCommenter: Was this the battle f to for the rights of who's the real UT? Cody: I think the unofficial battle, Minnesota Ryan: Ha ha ha. Cody: yes. Yeah. So AGTCommenter: Okay. When was the last time these two teams played? Cody: They played in the Cotton Bowl, I think nineteen sixty nine. and I think Texas it's been a minute. It's been a minute. It's been a minute, yeah, yeah. and I think Texas AGTCommenter: It's it's been it's been it's been s almost sixty years. Okay. So right now you guys are the rightful Minnesota Ryan: Geez. AGTCommenter: holder of the you you're the real U T. Cody: Yeah, and I think we're now three and one versus Tennessee. Yeah, and and we AGTCommenter: Love that. So it's not even a question. Yeah. Cody: actually own now the state of Tennessee 'cause we played Van D two years ago, beat them, AGTCommenter: wow. Cody: played Tennessee this year, gotta play Memphis, so Chatt Chat Chattanooga, Middle Tennessee, yeah. So AGTCommenter: Yeah. Middle Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah. My other question I had, did anybody horns down Zoo? Did you get yeah, did you get some horns down? Yeah, did you throw a flag, fifteen yard penalty? No, okay. You should have brought flag. Yeah. Cody: yeah, all the time. I did. I did not. I didn't care. No, it's like I was like you have your I was like you have your fun. That's fine. Do your thing. It's fine. Yeah, I don't care. AGTCommenter: Well, I'm glad it was a great trip. Thirty years in the making. And it Cody: Yes, yes. AGTCommenter: you're right, it kinda's all lined Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: up. Great team you guys have. Great football game too, it's close. Cody: Yes. Yep. AGTCommenter: Blowouts are fun until they're not, they get real they Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: can get real bo Minnesota Ryan: So true. AGTCommenter: like If you're gonna the trip and pay, and then you're like, Well, I can just leave in the third quarter because it's over, that's no fun either. So, but all right. Well, I'm glad it was a great trip. Cody: We can talk A G T now. AGTCommenter: should we get to some AGT stuff? Yeah, yeah. we Minnesota Ryan: W what? What what pod did I come on? No, I came on for sports pod. AGTCommenter: got a bunch of stuff, like I said. I wanna start with Cody and I's side competition that Ryan lightly participated in on last the last one too, gave some yeah, with no Minnesota Ryan: No stakes. AGTCommenter: stakes. you'll recall I I had a two point lead going into the night, Cody. Cody and I Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: and Ryan we all made an opener and a closer prediction. And then we each made a prediction for fifth, fourth, third runner up and the w and the winner. we all got the winner right. Five points in each each of our column. That was easy. That was a free space and bingo. That I mean it was There was no questions about that as we knew with Nene winning. I I went me and Ryan got blanked on the other seven pick or six picks. just Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. I had the right five, not the right order. Cody: Ha ha ha. AGTCommenter: zero correct. I had Beefus opening the night. come here no, who opened? Royal Lasers. Royal Lasers. Ryan Cody: Come here. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: yeah, we're lasers. Yep. AGTCommenter: had come here opening as well, and then Cody, you also got the opener wrong. You had the canine crew. So none of us got the opener right. None of a Minnesota Ryan: I should have picked my other one. I thought about roll lasers. AGTCommenter: none of us got the closer right. And I still feel process wise we were right. Nene should have closed the show. We Cody: Yes. Yes, absolutely. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: had who closed again? It's on a different sheet. Unitry, thank you. Minnesota Ryan: unitry. Which is a strange choice. AGTCommenter: Strange Choice and just why why'd they overthink it? So Cody and I had Nene. Ryan just wanted to be different just for the fun of it, went with hundred fingers and was still wrong. Minnesota Ryan: It's true. Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: So opener closer. for six for the boys. so here we are sitting here. I'm still up by two because Cody hasn't scored yet and I haven't scored yet. And this is where Cody makes his his move. Veronica is gonna come in fifth, Cody was right on it. I had Gino fifth, and Ryan had Royal Lazers fifth. So Cody Cody gets that one right, and then Cody had fourth place, he had Royal Lasers, he was right on it. I had Lay Noel and Ryan had Gino and that was it. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: three three points is all Cody needed to make the comeback and he wins twenty two twenty one. Cody, you're a winner now. You won the fantasy league, you won the side competition. Minnesota Ryan: Double winner Year of Cody. Cody: Yes. I also I also predicted that Simon was done for the season as well. Yes. Look at me. AGTCommenter: You did. Y you got the you got the side one right too. Minnesota Ryan: You did. AGTCommenter: you had La Noel third, Cody. I had Acro Canine crew third, and Ryan had Veronica third. Those were all wrong. And then all three of us had hundred fingers runner up and that obviously didn't come to fruition either. So congrats, Cody. This is the season of Cody. Did you put the Cody: Thanks. Minnesota Ryan: It really is. It really is. AGTCommenter: trophy in in your handle yet? I I got three. Got three trophies now. Sure. Yeah. Cody: done that yet. No, I haven't done that yet. No. I I yeah, I was I I was kinda kinda busy, kinda busy the last couple of days, so Minnesota Ryan: you gotta do it. It's like the best part. Cody: let's do let's do that right now. Let's do that right now. So AGTCommenter: Love this. I enjoyed the side competition, Cody. It's always fun. We we I mean we had it We were circling the correct answer. We were right we had it cornered. Basically, I had Lane OL in the top five, and so did Cody. And that was the only Yeah. and the canine crew. Minnesota Ryan: Nothing? Yeah. AGTCommenter: So we had Seven seven names got got put into into the top the collective three top fives and five of those seven were correct. So we we left three of the the five correct ones out, so good job there. So can Cody: So am I the am I the only one with four trophies? Well, I get the side bet and I get the fantasy league. it doesn't count? okay, sorry. AGTCommenter: You shouldn't have four. No, the side bet doesn't count. The side the side Minnesota Ryan: No, no, you don't get the trophy for the side bet. Otherwise I'd add another one from last year for me AGTCommenter: bet doesn't count, Cody. Cody: Well I you said you you we talked about the side bet and then you asked have you put the trophy in? So AGTCommenter: Yeah, I just 'cause we were talking about the season of Cody, all these w all this winning you're doing. we don't need to talk f we don't need to talk Cody: Okay. Well t that's Minnesota Ryan: You get bragging rights. AGTCommenter: fantasy league at all. We've gotten that we got that took taken care of. So any parting th thoughts, Cody, on your multiple victories here this year? It's gotta feel good. Cody: It's lot of fun. It's I yeah, y I had a lot of fun. It was very enjoyable. You're you're a great teammate, commenter? Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah. We had a lot of fun. Great teammates. all right. Shout shout out. Minnesota Ryan: Shout out Steven, you're great. AGTCommenter: our top five was Nene was our winner, Gino was our runner up, Royal Lasers Minnesota Ryan: Go Gino? AGTCommenter: or excuse me, Hundred Fingers third, Royal Lasers fourth, and Veronica Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: fifth. Ryan, you you've done some mathematical stuff for us here. Let's Minnesota Ryan: Yes. AGTCommenter: just let's do our wrap up of this season here with Where did these numbers ultimately f fall? What did the finals look like? Did it mirror what the results ended up? Walk us through a few of your your things that you wanna talk us through. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, I'll try and keep it pretty quick here today. Now I spent like two hours gathering data, so I'll make it not two hours for you all, but I kind of made individual ranking lists for each of the social media platforms. We'll just go through the ranking lists and then I'll go my overall virality and just say the overall thoughts. Should be pretty quick here for ya. The stats were weird. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: the only thing I really discovered from the stats was that Nene was the only one that participated and everyone else was just on their own sideshow. but but like there isn't trends. I'll be honest, I'll go through these and you can give your thoughts on kind of each one as we run through, but like there really isn't a trend and a lot of our like top finishing acts had nothing viral wise. And so this was a weird year for me. Last year it was super easy to predict the top five. I I've been completely stunned, and I think this year is kind of proving that stats don't say the whole picture and that voters AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: are different than the people who watch online. But we'll walk through each of these here. YouTube here, I have kind of two different rankings. Cody's seen kind of my rankings like this before, so I'll walk through them. We have volume rankings and then we have ratio rankings. Volume rankings is how much people have consumed this individual act or or person. And then the ratio rankings is how many people are liking per the people that are watching. So they're kind of two different ranking systems. Nene is number one on every single list by a large margin. So I'll kinda I guess throw that spoiler out there. Everyone else will rotate constantly depending on the platform. For YouTube, volume rankings. Nene has the highest. I kinda wanna read Hundred Fingers first, who was second place. Hundred Fingers had a million views on YouTube, seven f 7.5 thousand likes. Nene had twelve million views and three hundred and twenty-three thousand likes. So that's your difference between one and two. and then kind of going down the list in order it was Nene, hundred fingers, Unitree was actually one of the most volume on the night, then Gino at four, this is maybe the highest you're gonna see Gino on any list here, then Lei at five, come here at six, Royal Laser seven, Olivia eight, Nine Veronica and then Acro at ten. So when it comes to YouTube, that's your order of who is actually like watching these acts and watching these things later. ratio tells a very different story. So remember, I just said that Acro was the least viewed. Well, Nene still won on ratio with a unbelievable YouTube ranking of 2.69%. So again, about 2.69 people will like the video when they see it of hers. Acro is number two at 1.16%, then it goes Lei, Royal Lasers. Veronica, come here, Unitree, Olivia, 100 fingers, and then the last on ratio was our second place finisher Gino. And our third place act was our second to last on ratio. I know I told you guys last year ratio is one of my most consistent stats AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: on measuring acts. Well clearly not this year, because our second and third place are the lowest ratio on YouTube, which has been our one of our most consistent platforms to see people succeed. AGTCommenter: Is this last year you're saying you you would say last year y it was it was a better predictor than this year? Yeah. Interesting. Minnesota Ryan: It it worked last year. Yeah, I think on our pod last year we talked and I said that the ratio and kind of how I did my math actually perfectly predicted the top five last AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: year. And so we had a lot more trends that made sense. I swear as I go through these predictions, I'll tell you this: like I think Nene messed with the stats. I think really nobody else cared about anybody else this year besides Nene. So people were just voting for whatever they felt on the night of the finale, and that these stats kind of mean nothing. but if you goal the ratio here, we should have had 100 fingers in Gino last place. Like that was per ratio, which last year would have predicted top five, at least top five I would have expected for them in ratio. No, they're bottom two, and it's not even really AGTCommenter: Right. Minnesota Ryan: close. so that's YouTube for you. Quickly jumping over to Instagram, we see again Nene Top. I'll read second place first for volume rankings. Lei, it actually performed pretty well. It's kind of shocking to me she didn't make the top five considering her actual numbers she achieved. But she had about 277,000 views, 10.1,000 likes on Instagram volume. I'll read Nene now, seven million views, six hundred and twenty-five thousand likes. So that's your difference between one and two right there. Then in order, so Nene, Lei, then come here, then Unitree, then Veronica, then Gino, then Hundred Fingers, then Royal Lasers, then the dogs, Acro, and then Olivia. So Instagram is not the place for the dogs. Instagram as I guess preferring, I guess, the more younger, more niche X, AGTCommenter: Right. Minnesota Ryan: and kinda lay, come here, Unitree, Veronica. but this was kind of the most I would say off of the the volume rankings I saw here. In t for ratio, Nanny's number one. This is the literal highest ratio I've ever seen recording stats. I I she performs so well on every platform, but she has an eight point nine three percent ratio. So nearly a tenth of every person like every ten people, one person liked her video on Instagram. which is I've Again, never seen a number that high in the stat times I've been doing this. Lei came in at a incredibly solid 3.65% second. Then it goes Royal Lasers, Veronica, come here, 100 fingers, Acro, Olivia, Unitry. And again, Gino, last AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: place on ratio. So again, I statistically he's the anomaly AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: of everything, because n so numbers have proven that why Nene won, but my numbers can't explain why Gino was second place. So it's this Exactly. AGTCommenter: Right. Yeah. He's our money ball k he's he's like money. He's our guy. He's the he's the overachieving king, our guy. Minnesota Ryan: Right? jumping in here to Facebook. this p Facebook actually had some of the highest volume numbers of anyone. So people actually consumed more content of the finale on Facebook Reels than any other platform that I look through. Unitry, second place on volume for Facebook at one million views, eleven point six thousand likes. Then we go to Nene, ten million views, seven hundred and thirty-one thousand likes. I mean, it's just these numbers are astronomical, between one and two. So Nene, then Unitree, then Lei, then Hundred Fingers. Gino getting always about top five volume. then Olivia, Veronica, Acro, Royal Lasers, and then come here. That's your volume rankings on Facebook. And for ratio, Nane had a 7.31% ratio on Facebook. That's incredible, especially when you consider the second place had a 1.6. So Ley came in at 1.6. I mean, it's AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: just the difference is massive. That so ratio rankings goes Nane, then Ley, then Royal Lasers, then Veronica, then Unitree, Acro, Olivia. Come here hundred fingers, and yet again, Gino is last place on ratio on Facebook as well. He's literally last place on ratio in every single platform. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: But yet he's our second place. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: so those were just running through each of the platforms. The real thing I wanted to kind of highlight here was our overall. So I did what I did for the last time I came up, came up for statistics. I just combined them all together, and I just want to create an overall ranking system to kind of go our numbers. For volume in general, the second place volume act is unitry. At 1.9 million total views across all three platforms and 21.6 thousand likes. Nene came in at 29 million views and 1.7 million likes. That's your difference between 1 and 2 in volume. 100 fingers, about 1.8 million, AGTCommenter: twenty eight million views. Minnesota Ryan: 16.6,000 likes. And then it goes Lei, Gino, so we're solidly fifth place on volume across the board. Then it goes Olivia, Veronica, Come Here, Royal Lasers, and Acro is the least viewed of the groups. And then you go into the ratio rankings. Nene number one at a 5.86% overall ratio. That is the highest overall ratio I've ever measured for an act ever. Leia's number two at 1.87%. And then it goes Royal Lasers, Veronica, come here, Acro, Unitry, Olivia, 100 Fingers, and Gino, last place on ratio overall. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: So literally, when I did my overall rankings, 100 fingers and Gino were my lowest overall ratio acts, and yet they were second and third. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Right. Yeah. So Minnesota Ryan: Yet it perfectly predicted obviously Nene was gonna succeed. I don't know what to do with this year's stats. AGTCommenter: my maybe my final question for you on this. If you had this information before results on Wednesday night, what would your top five have what would you have said it was going to be? Yeah. Nay nay obviously won, Minnesota Ryan: What would I picked? I think I mean Nene one, we'll just AGTCommenter: yeah, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: throw there. I would have said Lei probably sitting I mean, she's fourth and third on overall ratio. I would have she AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: had minimum top five, probably shot for top three. I would have said that Royal Lasers, I would have put in my top five. Veronica, I would have put in my top five. And I would have said hundred fingers misses the top five completely, which would have been shocking to say that at that time. And I probably would have said, let's see here. There isn't really a train. It's I only see those four. I would have probably said those four. So Nene, Lei, Royal Lasers, Veronica, and then pick whoever performs the best is probably what I would have said on the night, with obviously Hundred Fingers having the best starting point of the group, but that's probably what I would have AGTCommenter: Would you say Lay was the most surprising omission of the top five based off of these numbers? Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Absolutely. Like she it wasn't for a lot of these volumes, like it really wasn't close. Like she's one point eight seven percent overall ratio and she led two platforms, Facebook and Instagram, with very good solid numbers. Like when you lead the young crowd and the older crowd on each platform, typically you at least make the top five. AGTCommenter: Right. Minnesota Ryan: and so that was probably yes, definitely my most shocking of these stats. AGTCommenter: Sure. Okay. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: I I do have like an overall final kind of my look at these stats and then we'll kind of wrap up statistics for the year. AGTCommenter: Yep, go for it. Minnesota Ryan: I went back for the fun, because this is the first year I've done this type of statistics two seasons in a row, and obviously we had Jessica last year. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: So I went back and found my finale like week statistics from Jessica's performances and compared them to Nene. Because I wanted to see like how viral really is Nene compared to what we've seen on the history AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: of the show. so I added up all of Nene's stats. She had over the entire course of the season, she had 153.5 million total views on every single performance she had, and she had one less act than everybody because she got the live show Golden Buzzer. She had 8.7 million total likes and she had an overall ratio of 5.67% across this entire season, right? Jessica on her finale week had about 6 million total views. That was her her thing. Nene had 29 million at the exact same point in time as Jessica, right? Jessica had 360 total likes on her finale week. Nene has 1.7 million, right? Like she's blowing Jessica. out of the water in these numbers. And yes, Jessica's winning number, like last year we predicted it well, she had a six percent finale ratio. That's why she won, is she had such a high ratio compared to everyone else. But Nene was sitting in at also about a 5.86 around that six percent as well. But the difference was Nene's volume is like triple, quadruple AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: what Jessica's is, so arguably her ratio is better b just because of the amount of volume. So I will say this now looking back on this, Nene is the most viral act I've ever recorded, statistically. And I would say she contends for most spiral act in AGT history. I would stand by that from the stats that I've seen. AGTCommenter: Well, you're great at segues, 'cause you're leading me into the point I wanted to talk about, which is w Minnesota Ryan: Good. Cody: Ha ha ha. AGTCommenter: w when we're when we're looking at the history I th A G T is not as viral as it was in the past. And to me, Cody Lee Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: I did some research today and it's hard because some of this is seven, eight, nine, ten years old of trying to figure out w how many views and Chat GP Chat GPT and I did our best to put our heads together, figure some stuff out. The first number I just wanna talk about quickly. What was Nene's total for the season? You said one hundred and Minnesota Ryan: Hundred and fifty three point five million total views across all platforms. AGTCommenter: It was assumed Cody Lee was over the three hundreds in his season across all platforms. So we're talking a a multiplier of of Minnesota Ryan: Absolutely. I mean, I'm not including TikTok. I'm not including those other ones. Like I I don't do as much as they do. That's true. Good point. AGTCommenter: Well co there was no TikTok in twenty eighteen or twenty seven yeah, twenty nineteen. What I wanted to figure out was I think each season since Vanderwall, outside Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: of season eighteen, has had a really viral name. And I basically was like, all right, within the time period of their season, how well did their audition do on YouTube from views? That I felt Minnesota Ryan: Mm. Mm. AGTCommenter: like was the easiest thing for myself and and chat to figure out. Nene this morning was at twenty-one million views on her audition. Not a golden buzzer. We know that that matters. Eleven so I went back season eleven. Vanderwall, Darcy Lynn, Courtney Hadwin, Cody Lee, Nightbird in season sixteen. Brandon Leek was the most viral in fifteen and it was so low that I cut him out. Mayas in seventeen, goodall in nineteen, Jessica last year. So Nene had twenty-one. Vander Waal in sixteen was about forty-six million views Minnesota Ryan: Mm. Mm. AGTCommenter: on that audition. Darcy Lynn was about thirty-five. Hadwin was over fifty million views on her audition. Cody, Minnesota Ryan: That's just why. AGTCommenter: we've talked about it. That aud that audition, man. It's it's a behemoth of an audition. Cody Lee was about Cody's this this at about thirty million. I think it might be a tish low. The number that I always forget about. Nightbird was sixty-two million approximate YouTube views Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: on her her audition. I think she would be the most viral act of all time if if Minnesota Ryan: She would have been. She would have been. AGTCommenter: she was able to continue in the competition. Mayas was around seventeen. Richard Goodall was twenty four. And I'd like I don't know if you have it it had Sanchez around ten million on her audition. I don't that seems low. Minnesota Ryan: She she had a very good audition, but I d she wasn't instantly viral. She captured a lot later. So I would say like audition wise, I don't think she'll stack as much as her full season. AGTCommenter: And so I think the show's just isn't as viral as it used to be, and it just doesn't do as well as it used to. and so I I do think in the golden era of seasons eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen area, we were just doing way more volume online. I don't want this to be a knock on Nene. I don't think she's the most viral act we've ever seen. I will say this. I think the more important context for her is the margin. Let's let's do a fun Minnesota Ryan: Huge. AGTCommenter: little golf analogy quick before we move on. If a golfer won a tournament and he was ten under. No one would be like, ten under, nice. Good performance. Play good golf until you look at the rest of the leaderboard and the second place was ten over. And you'd be like, tough course right? Like suddenly Cody: You mean like when Tiger won the ninety seven Masters? Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah, but he also was like nineteen under in that Masters, which was a wild I'm saying like someone's eight Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: under and ten under, which is like a nice tur but not no one's like, my god, he's ten under until you're like, he's twenty strokes ahead. That is what to me what this season and maybe some of these past season with the super viral acts has been, we're seeing one makes it and everybody else doesn't do anything. Like you said, you said it's like no one else participated. If she was you know, the the the distance between her and and number two, I think is is probably greater than what it used to be, where I th I think just the the page alone was just getting more traction and we were seeing more clips getting going viral. But that that to me is how you would rather you would you would want to capture the kind of the phenomenon in Nene is she's just kind of the only one that anybody cared about. I don't know if that makes sense, Ryan. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. The only thing I will say, everything on that list you said, golden buzzer. And that's the one thing is what AGTCommenter: I agree. Minnesota Ryan: if her audition was a golden buzzer? Would she have capsulated like the she's the most AGTCommenter: It it Minnesota Ryan: viral non golden buzzer? I will stand by that. Like I AGTCommenter: Yeah, I I Darcy L or Angelica Hale was the only other one that I could think that might have and didn't even look, but that maybe would get there, but I agree. Yeah, is it worth double? Is that a forty million view audition if it's Golden Buzzer? Is it worth, you know, one point five? Is it a thirty million view? but yeah, so that for the people at home, I think a a lot of people are like, the most viral. I I don't think it's necessarily the case. She Vander Waal, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: I said contend by the way. I think she'd contend for the most viral. AGTCommenter: Vanderwall, Cody Lee, Cody, you'll remember like they were like culturally significant. Like Good Morning America was doing segments, like it Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. Cody: Right. Yeah. Right. AGTCommenter: was just it was just different. And the show was more culturally significant at the time too. And so I think that mattered also. But her margins that you're talking through, they're they're ridiculous. And that's to me the best analogy I could come up with is it may not be Minnesota Ryan: I like it. AGTCommenter: volume, pure raw numbers, the most impressive we've ever seen comparative to some of those but the next closest is like a J V high school golfer. Like it's Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: it's it's crazy. So good stuff on that, Ryan. Cody, any thoughts you want to add before we move on to the next stuff? Cody: Man, I don't I don't think so. You guys had covered it all. I'm not sure what more I could add to it. Minnesota Ryan: Let's go. Cody: That that great job, guys. AGTCommenter: Okay. alright. All-time leaderboard is updated, signed, sealed, delivered. So I should have done that and I'm gonna do it really quick. ten names have been added to the all-time leaderboard, obviously, from this season. Let me highlight them so it can see them as I scroll through a little bit more better. the lists now. I did a few things. I did a a handful of things, Cody. I got rid of the semifinal list off my leaderboard. We had a few Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: from rewatchables over the years. I was like, you know what? make the finals, then you can get yourself on the Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: on the all time leaderboard. So I've made that change. What's it for? What's the drum for? Cody: for you to for you to announce you're you're announcing the leaderboard. AGTCommenter: hundred and fifty-five is now the current length size of the leaderboard. I am going to expedite this and I am going to just quickly run through the non-top five. Beefus sits at one thirty-seven on my all-time leaderboard. Cody: wow. Minnesota Ryan: Well AGTCommenter: Shout up, Beefus. One of my favorite acts of all time. Cody: Man, no respect from Beef from Beefus and the Buttheads, golly. AGTCommenter: she's ahead of a winner. I have her ahead of Kevin Skinner by by Minnesota Ryan: Ha ha ha ha. Cody: Kevin Skinner, I was gonna say, yeah. AGTCommenter: nine spots. Unitry is one Cody: Okay. Okay. AGTCommenter: thirteen. Cody: Where does she w as dog acts go? Well, I guess you'll get there. AGTCommenter: I won't get there. behind the canine crew, so at least behind them. Behind Cody: Well yeah. AGTCommenter: Saren Hero. I think probably last on my list. Yeah. The finals was not great. The finals Minnesota Ryan: Makes sense. AGTCommenter: was a was a bit of a calamity. and canine crew at one one. let me see. And then Le Noel at 73. And then I'm looking for my last top five. Come here. 50th. So those are the five that didn't make the top five. Are any of those shocking, surprising comments, or what the heck are you doing here? Cody: not no, not from here. Not from my side. No. Minnesota Ryan: Think so. I'm I'm a AGTCommenter: Okay. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: little surprised come here is in your fifties, I would say. Like they're they seem more like a seventies act to me, but AGTCommenter: One spot ahead of Ryan Dean Miller, one spot behind Mandy Harvey. Cody: Wow. Okay. 'Cause good company. AGTCommenter: So I Minnesota Ryan: Okay. Okay. AGTCommenter: I liked them. I thought they were remarkably consistent. I thought their quarterfinals wasn't great. I thought Minnesota Ryan: They were consistent. AGTCommenter: the rest of it was pretty good. they they finished out at a 4.323. So that was their overall season. Our top five. So let me make sure. I don't how do I want to do this? Can either do it where I just say a name and you tell me where they think you are. Do you guys wanna do you guys wanna guess do you guys wanna guess Cody: Yeah, yeah. No, do that. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, we've done it before. AGTCommenter: who's fifth? The fifth highest rated? Let's do it that way too. Who do you think I have as the lowest of the top five finishers? Minnesota Ryan: Lowest. AGTCommenter: From a score. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, I feel like the easy answer is Gino, but I'll AGTCommenter: Okay. Cody? Minnesota Ryan: I'll go with Geno. I I feel like there's another one that's on my list, but I'm gonna go with Gino. Cody: I like Royal Lasers. AGTCommenter: Okay, it is Gino. do you wanna guess which spot? Hundred and fifty five names. Do you want me to read you the po the bottom five again really quickly? Beefus was one hundredty seven, Unitry one Cody: No Yeah. AGTCommenter: thirteen, canine crew one hundred one, Lanoel seventy three, and come here fifty. Minnesota Ryan: I feel like Gino's like a nineties act. Like a n AGTCommenter: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: I I don't I don't I mean he's good, but I don't think you would think he's like top tier magician. So I I'm gonna go like low nine ninety one. Have fun with it. AGTCommenter: Okay? Cody? Cody: I'm going higher, seventy one. AGTCommenter: Okay. Cody, that's incredible. Seventy two. Cody: Woo look at me. Man, I am using up all this. I'm using all this up. Man, I need to I need I need to slow down and start spreading this out. So it's like Minnesota Ryan: it's the year of Cody. It's the year of Cody. AGTCommenter: It's the year of Cody. he is well you're almost out of time. Yeah. The year's almost over though, I suppose, huh? Minnesota Ryan: Ha ha ha. Ha AGTCommenter: one spot d exactly one spot ahead of Lena Well. I have hi her seventy three and him seventy two. He is one spot behind Courtney Hadwin, speak of the devil. So Cody: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: Wow. AGTCommenter: seventy two. Crazy number, or does that sound pretty fair for you guys on Gino? Okay. Okay. Cody: I think it's absolutely fair. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: No, I think that's totally fair. I that's where I'd have So AGTCommenter: So, Gino was fifth of my top of the top five. Who do you think my fourth highest top five act is if you had to this is gonna keep getting easier because you're gonna eliminate the previous ones. So you guys'll definitely get the last Cody: Sure. Yeah. AGTCommenter: one. Cody: I I think it's Royal Lasers this time. Yeah. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: I think it's rural lasers. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Okay, it is Royal Lasers. They're they're they were finished fourth and they were fourth on my leaderboard. Gina was seventy second, so obviously you already know that's the that's the low water mark here to build off of. Either of you can go. Cody: Where is I team Illuminate? AGTCommenter: boy. Team Illuminate is a hundred and fourteen. Cody: Yeah, not of course not not that that low. l Right. No no no no no ag agreed, yes. but I'm trying to get like where would T I Illuminate, Light Balance, Light Balance all the AGTCommenter: Obviously at least seventy first. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yep. Sure. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, that helps. Give us some baseline. Cody: I'm at. I'm gonna go sixty three. AGTCommenter: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: I was gonna say sixty two, but I don't wanna be just one next to you. w I was gonna go sixty two, that was what I was gonna say. Cody: No, do it mate. That's fine. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Okay. Sixty-two's Jessica Sanchez. And Royal Lasers is fifty-six. So you guys were in the in the area. I have him I have them s right. Yeah, I know you do. That's why I wanted to make sure you knew once you said sixty-two. Minnesota Ryan: should remember that. okay. I mean I would definitely have Jessica above her lasers, but okay. Appreciate that. Cody: Okay. So we're c we're yeah, yeah. AGTCommenter: six spots behind Kamir. So I actually had Kamir above Royal Lasers butt. So fifty six. Two spots ahead of twenty twenty class of twenty twenty six Hall of Famer Piff the Magic Dragon. Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: so just a little piece there. One behind the great Danelia Tulushova, one ahead Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: of Chibi Unity from season eighteen. Alright, three left. If you guys quickly who you think's up next. Cody: ver a hundred fingers. Minnesota Ryan: kinda think it's hundred fingers as well. Yeah. AGTCommenter: It is it is hundred fingers. so the new low water mark is fifty six on Royal Lasers. What do you guys think? Cody: Fifty one. I don't think it's much higher. Minnesota Ryan: Forty nine, let's do it today. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: I have hundred fingers thirty-fifth. Cody: wow. Okay. yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Okay. We gotta we gotta go up higher, Cody. We gotta AGTCommenter: I did not hate their finals as much as everybody else made it seem like Minnesota Ryan: Okay. AGTCommenter: they just walked out there and messed everything up. I don't know. It didn't come across to me nearly as poorly as maybe it should have. Maybe upon a rewatch someday I'll lower it. But Cody: I I I think I don't think people ha I think th what they what people people wanted Minnesota Ryan: We wanted more. We wanted more. Cody: people wanted the dan dancing more than the the magic. I think is what people wanted. Yeah. So. AGTCommenter: Yep. Yeah. And th their season came out at a four point three nine average. So nothing crazy. Four point four one was their highest score in the quarterfinals. one spot behind murmuration, one spot ahead of Minnesota Ryan: Mm. AGTCommenter: Circa Morea. Ryan's guys. Ryan's favorite act of all time. two behind Chris Turner, Minnesota Ryan: I would have circa higher, but yes, I'm biased. AGTCommenter: our runner up from a year ago. all right. Two left. Do guys do Minnesota Ryan: I it AGTCommenter: you guys remember from the previous c we talked about this, I feel like. Who who's my number two? Yeah, Nene's my number Cody: Vr Veron Veronica. Minnesota Ryan: I know I I I think I know where I think Nene is. So I'm trying to go like AGTCommenter: Nene's my number two. I had Veronica scored higher than Minnesota Ryan: It has to be. AGTCommenter: Nene. so Hundred Fingers was thirty fifth. So it's at worst she's thirty fourth. Cody: Twenty eight. AGTCommenter: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: I'm tw I think twenty three. AGTCommenter: Cody you write on at twenty-eight. One spot, one spot. Cody: golly. Minnesota Ryan: Year of Cody. AGTCommenter: And I I I might update this because I don't love it. And I I actually have made some updates. I have her one spot behind Putri Ariani. and I don't totally care for that. I didn't love I I Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, I think he should be ahead of Pew Tree. Putri's great, but AGTCommenter: didn't like her finals, Neneys, and so that's part of it. One Minnesota Ryan: Really? Okay. AGTCommenter: one spot ahead of John Dornboss. I Minnesota Ryan: Okay. AGTCommenter: wouldn't be surprised if she's twenty seventh, after some reevaluation potentially, but I do think top thirty makes a ton sense for her. I I think she is a borderline top twenty-five act all time. I I don't think that the twenty-eight is not in a like a a st a a bad ranking. You know, we're talking about a hundred and fifty five names here of the greatest talent show of all time. So she should be proud and and her fans should not come from come for me and try to She's ahead of she's ahead of Terry Fader. I Cody: They're all gonna say she should be number one. Minnesota Ryan: There's a lot of AGTCommenter: have her above Terry Fader on my all time leaderboard. So Minnesota Ryan: Ooh, that's spicy. Okay. AGTCommenter: Is twenty eight fair out of line? Makes sense for you guys. Minnesota Ryan: Not a line. I think there's variation. People will have different preferences, but I don't think that's out I don't think it's gonna be mad. AGTCommenter: Okay. Would you have thought she was top twenty five, no doubt, before we started this? Minnesota Ryan: To have been top twenty five for me. But I I would I just wouldn't want her below thirty five. That'd probably be for me. Cody: can't decide. I really can't. I can't. AGTCommenter: Yeah. If you think about it. Cody: I'm not trying to like you know, I'm not trying to you know, sit on the fence. I just I can't decide. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean there's been twenty one seasons and so twenty eight out of in in a twenty one season deal is, you know, one of the best Cody: Yeah. W when w when we rewatch her in five years, and we AGTCommenter: That could go up. Cody: gotta do our scores, I may Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: give her fives. I don't know. I could. So AGTCommenter: You could. last one, Veronica finished ahead of Nene. Twenty eighth was Nene. So there's your watermark. What do you guys want to do? Minnesota Ryan: Nineteen. Cody: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna go with nineteen as well. That's what I had in my head. AGTCommenter: Yeah, it's close. It's right on twenty five. So she is only a couple it was it I I said it online, I said it on the pod. The difference was not crazy. Four four five three for Veronica, four four two three for Nene, twenty five, one behind Sal for Veronica, one ahead of Cody: Mm. AGTCommenter: Aaron Blyle, our voiceless comedian. some of those seasons where it was all three performances, those numbers just are a little bit inflated, on some of those s seasons when it was weird when it was weird setup, but Behind Cody Lee, behind some some other names that are a little bit ahead of the ahead of her. So Veronica twenty fifth, she was really good. Cody: She's good. She's good. Yeah. AGTCommenter: She was really great. I really enjoyed it. final parting thoughts on the all time leaderboard from you guys. Any anything, any foul? Cody: No, and I think what we guessed, I think probably kind of solidifies what you did as well. Yeah. No. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah, no no fouls over here. Different preferences, but no fouls. AGTCommenter: We have a we have a twenty first winner runner up third, fourth, and fifth place now. And so we gotta take a look at where these acts stack up all time. I think we should start with fifth place, correct? I lied. This is the eighteenth fifth place because we had a few years without fifth place. W twenty-one fourth top fours, though. Veronica was our fifth place finisher. You know where she was, she was twenty fifth on the on the whole on the all time leaderboard. out of the eighteen fifth place finishers, what's your guys' guess? Minnesota Ryan: Alright, 'cause I know I like Roman Downley Brothers, I feel like would be above her and stuff like that. Yeah. I'm gonna go it's pretty high. I'm gonna go fourth. Let's go. I got one. You're Brian. No. Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: It is fourth. Yep, you you s you said one of the names. So first on that list is Ramadani brothers. I have ninth all time. Voices Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: of service, Cody from season fourteen is second. And Cody: Yes. Yep. AGTCommenter: then Sal. I did give you one little answer to the test there earlier. Sal Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: was fifth place, was ahead of her. So she is fourth. And then it drops off. So Ramadani's ninth all time. Voices of service twentieth, Sal twenty fourth, and Veronica twenty fifth. And then it drops to seventieth for the fifth the fifth highest fifth placer down to Collins Key. Cody: Cow Minnesota Ryan: my goodness. AGTCommenter: So it's a it's kind of a shock. It's not a great category. Fifth place is not great. all time. Okay. Fourth place was Royal Lasers. We have twenty-one of those now, so can work off of that. and they were fifty-sixth on the all-time leaderboard. I'll give you that info as well. Cody: Sixth. AGTCommenter: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: Go farther back, I'm gonna go tenth. AGTCommenter: Okay, you guys split it. It's eighth. One behind Prince Poppycock from season five, Cody. One ahead Cody: Okay. Yeah. Yep. AGTCommenter: of Meta Metaphysic from season seventeen. Minnesota Ryan: Okay. AGTCommenter: I liked Metaphysics. I might I think I just Minnesota Ryan: They were cool. AGTCommenter: like I might have just liked Daniel Emmett and might that might Cody: Ha ha. AGTCommenter: have just been why, but but Minnesota Ryan: He's a cool dude. Cool dude. AGTCommenter: so there's eighth for them. Third place finisher was hundred fingers, thirty fifth on the all time leaderboard we talked about. Twenty one third place finishers. What do you guys think? Cody: Seven. Minnesota Ryan: Unless nine came into my head right away. You're a Cody. AGTCommenter: Cody's on at seventh. One behind murmuration from season eighteen. One ahead of Jordan Blue from a year ago. Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: so there you go. And then runner up was Gino, seventy second Minnesota Ryan: This is gonna be so hard. AGTCommenter: on my all time leaderboard. Twenty one runner ups, runners up, runners up. What do you got, Cody? Cody: go like t twelve. Minnesota Ryan: Still wanna go higher in that fifteen. Okay. Man, Cody's just feeling it. AGTCommenter: Yeah, thirteenth. Cody was was right on it. One behind silhouettes from season six. one behind silhouettes from season Cody: We've we've we've been doing this a minute, Ryan, so it's like Minnesota Ryan: I I you guys I'm trying, I'm trying to keep up here. No one you guys won. AGTCommenter: six, one ahead of Kaz Haley from season two. and then our winner, Nene Royal. Twenty one winners. She's twenty eighth on the all time leaderboard. What do we like? Cody: a eleven. No. Fourteenth. Fourteenth. I'm going fourteenth. Fourteenth, Minnesota Ryan: tenth. Going ten, sticking ten. AGTCommenter: You're going ten. Cody going fourteen. Cody: yeah. AGTCommenter: She is ninth. Cody: good. Wow. Okay. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: I got one. AGTCommenter: She is one ahead of Terry Fader and one behind Cody Lee. So Shin Lim, Darcy Lin, Grace Vanderwall, Paul Zerdon, Bianca Ryan, Matt Franco, Mayas, Cody Lee, Nene, Terry Fader. That's the top ten. Grimm, I'm the only person in the planet that likes Michael Grimm, but I love Michael Grimm. Cody: Ha ha. AGTCommenter: Is eleven. Jessica Sanchez, 12. and then it it's a bunch of names that Neely Boyd, Kenichi, Brandon Leek, Dustin Tavella, Adrian Hurricane, Landau, Eugene Murphy Jr. Latte Dogs, Richard Goodall, Kevin Skinner. so she's in company. She's in the she is in the section Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Solid. AGTCommenter: that makes the Hall of Fame. That that's basically where she is, right? Terry Fader's one behind her has made the Hall of Fame. Michael Grimm is one behind Terry Fader and he fell off the ballot last year. Like it feels like right now that's kind of the cutoff, and so she's in the right territory. I think the two of or the three of us would all agree that Maya's is probably going to be a Hall of Fame act once they're eligible in 2028. So she's she's positioned herself based off of what my numbers have said and what people do on voting night on on the ballot on the Hall of Fame, she's she is probably looking at staring down the barrel of a of a Hall of Fame induction at some point. We'll talk a little bit of that too. Any final thoughts on that? Cody: No. No. Pretty solid, man. AGTCommenter: So she was ninth. Minnesota Ryan: I don't think so. AGTCommenter: She was Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: ninth. Gino was thirteenth. Hundred Fingers was seventh. Royal Lasers was eighth and Veronica was fourth. takes us to our seasons rankings. So I I I added a few data points to my season's rankings and basically everything is based off of top the top fives of the seasons that and the top threes of the seasons. So kind of subsection. And I use both where they rank in relation to each other, right? So the list of the winners, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. But I then I also used where they rank in relation to each other from their scores. Because the difference between Shin Lim's score and the tenth best winner might be way bigger than just one to ten in terms of there. So I wanted to capture it all. Basically put all of that together, aggregated it, scores, ranks, top five, and spit out the twenty one seasons in order. Season eleven still by I I I can't tell what the scale is. They their average or their score was a one ninety six, and season four, which is last, their score was a one point nine eight. So so so that was kind of the sitch there. And everything else is in between that. That's that's kind of the so they're ten spot ten points ahead of number two. Season twelve is second, and season thirteen is third. Consistently been my top three. There's something about season thirteen that I think you could argue is better than twelve, but based off of my scores and my rankings and everything there. So that's the top three. From there, I want you guys to guess, season twenty one, you've heard the leaderboard, you've heard where they were on the place rankings, which is really the indicator of how good of a season you are based off of this number that I made up. What do we think? Twenty one seasons. Cody: I'm gonna go ninth. AGTCommenter: Ninth. Minnesota Ryan: Go eleventh. AGTCommenter: Sixth. Minnesota Ryan: wow. Cody: Wow, that is okay. Minnesota Ryan: Okay. AGTCommenter: It's high. It's a good top five, though. It it it is. Like you can't you I mean, we just went through it and you guys didn't really have any issues with where Veronica and Nene and some of those names were. Cody: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: That's the answer to the test, right? And their their worst top five finisher was 72nd. And that was basically the difference. There's some of these seasons, the Detroit Youth Choirs, and some of those that are like 130th on my leaderboard. It may not Their best act was twenty-five from season twenty-one, but their worst was seventy-two. So it's all very scrunched together. Whereas a season like season ten, that's eighth on this list, has Paul Zerdon fifth, but then it might have it's got Drew Lynch a hundred and forty something. So the gap is is different. Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: Do I think it's the sixth best season of all time? I don't know. If I if I watched them all, would I think it was sixth? Maybe. I don't think so. and we'll get into kind of our final thoughts on the season, but based off of what it turned out for its winner, its runner up, third, fourth, and fifth place, this is where it it lined up. Seventeen is one behind. and season seven is is one ahead. So Cody, six jumps out at you, doesn't it? When it when you you wouldn't think this would be six. Cody: No, but I mean the math the the math is the math and that's what it came out to be. But just you know if you're still doing an eyeball test, it just doesn't feel like it's the sixth best season. But you know, the the numbers don't lie. AGTCommenter: I agree. Yeah, I maybe I need to redo my metrics, but Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: but yeah. It is it is it is a it was a high floor, low ceiling season is really probably the the the crux of it. But all right. Any any other thoughts on on the season's rankings before we get into our last home stretch here? I had been tracking Cody throughout the season. how well our audition and episodes were performing. and so that that finally wrapped up. Our winner came from auditions five. the later auditions performed better this season. three of the Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: That doesn't make sense. basically the the the later auditions five, six, and seven just had a little bit better go of it, and certainly a better go of it than it has historically. So when you look at top four finishers, basically I just want to highlight a handful of numbers quickly. So Historically, 80% of all top four finishers come from the first four audition episodes of a season. A remarkable it's actually gone down. So it was 82 before this season. Now it's 80, so it went down slightly. Auditions one through four only account for 54% of all audition episodes. So it's a 26% overperformance there. So there's obviously a statistical marker that's very, very interesting. In the Simon era, which would be 11 through 21. It's 82%. So it's even sl it's a it's actually a tish higher. Same audition split. 54% are the first four auditions. So obviously, an overperformance. What I think is fascinating is some of the golden buzzer stuff. So, let me do this here. So when we look at the golden buzzer and how how these and I'm talking only auditions in Judge Cuts old golden buzzers from seasons 10 through 21. there has been 88 of them. in the twelve seasons. 31 out of 88 of all golden buzzers, so 35% of all audition and judge cut golden buzzers have made the top five. Cody: Wow. AGTCommenter: Over a Minnesota Ryan: Peace. AGTCommenter: third have just have made the top five, which is a remarkable finish. Cody: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: Cause what is Eighty eight divided by twelve. So on average there's only seven of a season. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: It's cra it's crazy. It it's Minnesota Ryan: Wow. AGTCommenter: cr it's crazy. It it's it's really something. sorry, hold on. Cody: It's a AGTCommenter: Nope, no, that was the right number. The other one, so you take those 31, sorry. You look at how many of the top five then what that splits. 52% of all top five finishers have been golden buzzers. So there's been more golden buzzer top five Minnesota Ryan: my goodness. AGTCommenter: finishers than none. Cody: Draft Golden Buzzers. AGTCommenter: Draft go it it Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, that's the new strategy. AGTCommenter: it's it's just guaranteed points, right? And and so thirty-one out of what would sixty. So thirty-one out of sixty top five finishers have been judge cuts or audition golden buzzers. You break it down by by placement. Eight out of twelve winners have been golden buzzers, so s it's two thirds exactly. Only a third of the runners up, four out of twelve, fifty eight percent of the third place finishers, seven. Seven fifth place finishers as well, and then five fourth place finishers. So that's the breakdown. That is That's what's driving this show. The Golden Buzzers are the are the acts that Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: advance and they win. Yes, they didn't win this year, but that's that's really the crux of it. And so when you talk, and Cody, I know a little bit of it is is spoiling our draft strategy, but that's Pew, you wanna know how he won? We didn't draft early auditions. And we drafted golden buzzers. And that was the strategy. And yeah, did did we the best Cody: Huh? AGTCommenter: we could do was drum up a fourth what was it? Fifth no, third. We had third place. We had hundred fingers. But that was all we needed. We we didn't need we didn't need the winner. We drafted five golden buzzers. We had fifteen draft picks. Twelve of them were from the first four auditions. One of the three that wasn't was Veronica, who was a golden buzzer, which overrides anyways. And then the other two were Jesse Joe and the 96ers and Cameron Marshall, and Cameron Marshall actually actually advanced and and scored for us. But 39 of our 51 points came from the first four auditions. And 30 out of 51 of our points came from Golden Buzzers. That we're probably mixing up teams next year, so I'm fine if more people Cody, we talked about it. This was the exact strategy we wanted to go with. Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: Early auditions and golden buzzers, and we'll probably win, and we won by 15 points. It it the the the historic math, the the we also factored in analytics, Cody. We we pulled views and and we gave, you know, we we took that into account. All of that said is why this Nene win, and by the victory margin that we assume she won by. I wouldn't be surprised if she won by more votes than anybody ever. It's that much more impressive. She wasn't a golden buzzer. She was from she was from the fifth audition. Sh she was a solo singer who was not a golden buzzer, which is like the is a death sentence because all of the golden buzzers are solo singers. And they those are the one like the what she overcame is is kind of amazing. And so I love those numbers because when you start to really look at it, this show basically is a golden buzzer show and every Cody: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: now and again a Nene shows up who doesn't need one to win, but sixty six perc you know, two thirds of the time in the Golden Buzzer era you you do need it and and that's the way it's gone. But Ryan, I'll you're you're the other numbers guy a little bit. I'm interested just kind of in your thoughts as I throw that stuff at ya. Minnesota Ryan: It's just wild. Like, you know, there's every year we'll have a randomly weird viral act and sometimes they'll do nothing. But it's like no matter what I'll do and all the stats I do, we always come back to the same metric, which is almost all these acts I talk about are getting boosted by this golden buzzer. And even though we talk about Nene being not a true golden buzzer on editions, she's still got one in the live shows. And for all we know, that boosted things further. I still I agree with you. The biggest data I kinda pull out of that is this show is still driven by golden buzzers. It it is. As much as we want to vote, as much as we want to like sheer things on social media, as much as we talk about Nene's whim being statistical and great for her, still golden buzzers are still attached to it. And it AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: you know, we can't remove that from her story, even though she is the anomaly. I I think AGT knows that. I think that's why they're increasing golden buzzers every year. I think that's why they're doing more AGTCommenter: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: and more and more is they know that that is really the thing that's driving people through. so to me, none of it we said is surprising, but it's also surprising. That's a weird thing to say. It's like you say it, I go, wow, then I go, but that makes complete sense from what I've seen over the course of the past few seasons. AGTCommenter: Cody, I'll go to you here. So to me the shocking number is the audition thing. Why why is this happening? Why why are it's every why is this the case? I don't I the Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: Yeah. No. I know. And and I had the same thought as you did kind of maybe earlier this season or maybe in our off season last year. kind of looking as we were I think we're doing our season thirteen rewatch, what it was the last rewatch we did. Cause AGTCommenter: Yeah. Cody: I I was starting to have that same that same I was starting to think the AGTCommenter: Yeah, yeah. Cody: same starting to think the same thing as well. It's like, wow, a lot of the people that are advancing and moving on to the finals. came from this speci so I started kind of digging it and then you you ran with it even more. It's incredible because it's it's incredible AGTCommenter: It's incredible. Cody: because the the the the production and I know a lot of people talk about that it's rigged and they're all whatever AGTCommenter: Yep, yep. Cody: it may be. But it you know, the all these acts that are in that are pre recorded in auditions, they don't there's no control once it's get gotten the live show. AGTCommenter: Right. Cody: So it's like they They don't know that these acts were in there. It just happens to work that way. But the numbers that it comes out to is absolutely incredible. Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Well, and this is my favorite part of it. It's it's not like Auditions One has run up the score for the first four. It's it's even and then it's a cliff. So Cody: Yeah. It's consistent. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: and I'll I'll walk you through it. So we've had eighty-four top four finishers in the and I did top four because there's too many seasons without a fifth, so I just thought this was easier because every season had four. Seventeen from auditions one, seventeen from auditions two, seventeen from auditions three, Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: And 16 from auditions four. And then it's the next highest is fifth and it's seven. It it it's it's not like auditions one has thirty and auditions two has twenty and three has nine and four has six and five has six no no no. It is a clump within one and then a cliff. It doesn't Cody: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: it's unbelievable. Cody: And and production doesn't know where they're gonna finish, so they don't know what audition to to televise. They just it just works out that way. It's incr it's incredible. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah. In in in the Simon era it's a little less cliffy. It's eleven for auditions one, eleven for auditions two, five for auditions three, and nine for auditions four. And then it drops to five for auditions five. So auditions three for some reason has had bad performance, but but even that, like just auditions one, two, and four in the Simon era is seventy percent of the of the top four finishers. It's amazing, Ryan. Minnesota Ryan: I just w Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: I wonder if there's just like this attachment thing where when we see our first acts, we pick our favorites, we make our like individual personal team in our head, and then we kind AGTCommenter: Yep. Minnesota Ryan: of everything else just feels like, okay, let's get to the live shows. Let's get to and we almost like don't give enough credit to those late acts. AGTCommenter: Right. Minnesota Ryan: like obviously that's on us, but I wonder almost because it's so consistent like that, is it actually on us as the viewer picking our favorite acts? Cody: Yeah. And and and I will say production probably and I they I they talked about it this season where they tried to do it more linear to make it look like those acts that actually did audition early on were in the early auditions. But they're gonna put good acts in the earlier auditions to get people to watch the show. And so then the later episodes are gonna be some of the okay, we're kinda getting to the end, here's what's kinda left over. So they are s they are front loading what they're con AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: what they're thinking are going to be good acts. And so then you get to the live shows and we're thinking, well, they must have been in there. Those must have been really good. And so we're gonna we're gonna vote for They turn out they actually are good for the most part. so when they're when they're televising it, they're just front loading the good stuff to get people to watch. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah, I will say this too. They're sending more of them to the live shows before we even have a chance to vote. Sixty-eight percent of the live show acts were from the first four auditions this year. And only fifty-seven percent of the episodes were. So not a crate not nothing like eighty-two. We actually as voters bucked the trend and once we started voting, we started voting for the later auditions more than normal. But that is part of it too. But they're giving you the answer to the test. They think these are the best acts of the season, they're putting them early, then they're putting them in the live shows. and then people are voting for them. It it's interesting. And yeah, we I mean, we just we avoided the late auditions. Obviously we would have drafted Nane one overall if we had the first pick. She was there's always gonna be things that don't track, but very interesting and a very fun statistical Minnesota Ryan: Very interesting. AGTCommenter: analysis that just kind of bucks trend that's w you it just the cliff the the the seventeen seventeen seventeen sixteen seven is Minnesota Ryan: That's wild. Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: Is blows me away and I I it drops my jaw every time I look at it. all right, last statistical thing I wanna do quickly is just I've done this kind of how finals the anatomy of a final conversation, how does it get made up? I wanna look at it I wanna look at this way. so let's see. What does that number mean? Okay, yeah. So twenty one seasons, we've had a hundred and seventy seven finalists, eighty Have been singing acts, 97 have been non-singing. That gap actually grew this year because of the the the eight non-singing acts. forty-eight percent of all winners now, thanks to Nene's victory, have been singing acts. So we're we're ten singers and eleven non-singers all time. when you look at the new era, forty-two percent, so it's actually a little bit of a drop, have been singers, but we have we we had we do have three in a row from there. Cody: When you're saying new, you mean Simon Simon era. AGTCommenter: the the yeah the the the basically the golden buzzer era basically. Cody: Okay. Okay. AGTCommenter: when we look at golden buzzers in terms of that. forty three no hold on. s sixty we already did that. We already did the golden buzzer because we did that in the other one. Categories. Solo singers still account for just short of a third of all finalists in the new era. So I just I just went through this this era. So It is still far and away the best place to find points is with solo singers from early auditions, and if they have a golden buzzer, even better. Like that that's that's kind of the three boxes you're trying to check. But very fun. A lot of numbers that are very interesting, in my opinion, and and kind of fun to to to see there. And yeah, the the last thing I want to do. A ther so in the twelve years of the golden buzzer, a third have been golden buzzer singers. So, four out of twelve have been golden buzzer of singers. It's it's very reliable. all right. Anything else on on any of that stuff before we wrap up, boys? Okay. Cody: Man, great numbers. Great job. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, wow. Nice work. AGTCommenter: Hall of Fame stuff will be in the future. I think Nene, I think, is gonna have a a fair shot. I I think she's probably the only one right now that I'd have any conviction on, so we don't need to do a ton of Hall of Fame convo Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: yet. final season twenty one thoughts. We'll put a bow on it. it was a fun season. We've had three winners in a row that have been singers. And it's weird because we we had five out of six to start, Cody. And then basically Cody: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, forty, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty. For fifteen years we only had up until so for twelve straight years we had two. So we went s five out of six, two out of twelve, and now we've gone three in a row. That if one thing happens, it doesn't matter. The next thing that happened has nothing to do. In your gut, Cody, are we just in a weird three year stretch or is singing back? Is this the show? What's your gut tell you? Cody: No. I I think things are cyclical in this. And so it wouldn't be surprised Fed setter here. It wouldn't surprise me if we do get another singer next year, but also wouldn't surprise me if voters are like, you know what? We're we're done. It it all depends by who shows up. Now, voters said this year that we didn't want singers. So we only we only voted one into the finals. The other was right. AGTCommenter: And we only had one in the top five. Yeah. Cody: And so AGTCommenter: Right. Cody: the voters are saying we don't want singers this year, but the judges were like, Well, we've got we she's so we gotta have her in the finals. She's gotta be there. Now, would she have gotten voted through on her own merit? Most likely. and so it's very likely we would have voted two anyway. But I think I think things are cyclical and it may be kind of on the downswing when it comes to singers. We'll just have to see who shows up for season twenty two. AGTCommenter: It's interesting, but Ryan, before you jump in, three singers, like we talked about, two out of the last three years o only two of the in season nineteen only two singers made the finals, and this year only two made, and yet a singer won each time. I'm gonna make I wanna you to build off of this, Ryan. Is it a little bit like an election? And let me let me expand. There's two parties, the I like singing party and the I don't like singing party, and then what wins your election is the independent voters. And right now singers are just having a really easy time hooking and it's basically whatever act goes viral online brings in the voters needed to win the show, and right now singers are what's getting traction online. Do you think that's what's happening? Minnesota Ryan: It's hard. Like I've gone back and forth this so many times because yes, we've had three straight singers. This is weird. It is just weird. Is this random AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: or not? I've chosen to not believe in the what happened before ha ha matters for the next season. And and the reason why is I'll go back to specifically we had Adrian Hurricane win out of nowhere. You'd think that would have had a huge backlash of from the dog axe, and then Ronnie and Rhythm almost beat Richard, even though he AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: was the favorite. So it's like I really don't believe voters actually care that much of what happened this season before as long as the person they're rooting for is worthy of that level of respect. So I think to me, I think it's more coincidental that we've just had Richard was maybe the one oddball of it. People I think people just really liked him personally. But like Jessica was almost a perfect fit for season twenty and what the whole idea of season twenty was. It didn't surprise me. And I think Nene has shocked people. I think people weren't ready to vote for Singers. And I agree with Cody. I think America was actually pushing back against Singers and I'll use Lei as my prime example. Right? Leigh was our only real traditional kids singer that typically does well on the show. And she statistically performed well online, but yet we didn't vote for her to be in the top five. I think Nene was unique. I and I don't consider her a singer singer. I really don't. Like people were fascinated by her as a star. I think America wants stars. And I think that there if there is another great singer next year that could be another star, I think we'll vote again. For that person. I don't think it changes it. But if there's not a star, I think America will go, No, we don't want another singer. That's kind of at least how I feel that it'll go. Cody: If na if Nene had been a just a straight up singer and not a guitar slasher, it's a it's a different ballgame. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Wouldn't have made it. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. But it wasn't a different ballgame to the last two seasons. But what but I'm saying is is like Cody: But we're not talking about last two seasons, we're about this season, yes. AGTCommenter: what it had been? Minnesota Ryan: I think it would have 'cause Lei is a better Cody: I think it would have been, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: singer than Nene. Nene is just the whole package and her stage presence is incredible. That's AGTCommenter: Okay, okay. Okay. Yep. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: why. Cody: I I'm I'm with Ryan. I don't think what happened the last two years. I think eighty five, ninety percent of people that watch don't remember the last coup last season or a couple season. AGTCommenter: Yeah. It feels to me I'll make one more analogy. How familiar are you guys with Yeti Cooler products? Cody: Okay. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Enough? AGTCommenter: Okay. Do you own any Yeti cooler products? Cody: No, no. AGTCommenter: Expensive, right? Ridiculous ridiculously expensive. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, expensive, yes. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Have you ever met anybody who has had them? Cody: yeah. AGTCommenter: Have you ever Minnesota Ryan: Yes. AGTCommenter: asked them where they got them? You know what ninety seven percent Cody: No. Don't care. AGTCommenter: of the answer you're gonna get is it was a gift. Wanted in a raffle, got it for Christmas. Cody: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: True. True. AGTCommenter: Cause no one in their right mind would go and buy themselves a cooler for eight hundred dollars. You know, it's not that much, but you wouldn't I think that's what's happening is everybody's like, Well, I would never I would never we're not gonna vote for singers, but someone keeps giving us this stupid cooler and it's Cody: Ha ha ha. AGTCommenter: a great cooler, so we're gonna use it. Like these Nene's and Jessica's just keep getting dropped in the season and the diehard fans don't want them on the season, but then they're here and they're like, it's a pretty good cooler. The ice doesn't melt for thirty six hours, it's great. Like, spend Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: six weeks and still my beer's still cold. Like, I think that might it's kind of the yeti cooler problem Minnesota Ryan: That makes sense. AGTCommenter: is like We would never go out and find the Nanes and the Jeska's on our own, but if you give to us, we kinda have no choice but to vote for 'cause they were and then the people that love them are coming over too. It feels like that might be what's happening. And it and we've just had a three year run where a singer popped off and that was just kind of the case. And if Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: season eighteen a singer didn't pop off, season seventeen a singer didn't pop off. season sixteen Nightbird would have and would've won the show by a mile. So Minnesota Ryan: Absolutely. Yeah. AGTCommenter: it's just basically feels like it that might be what it is. Is a singer's not gonna win and then if one pops up they will. And if they don't, it's not gonna be a singer and that basically is is the show. But this was a go ahead, Cody. Cody: It real quick, so I think during auditions, that's one reason I try to avoid spoilers and reading all the other stuff before the show actually airs, because I want to see the act. I wanna Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: I wanna judge and and determine whether I like the act when I see it, not based on the spoiler that's coming out and all the comments that are being written about and then going and looking them up to see, what's their history. No, I wanna I wanna watch the episode. And then determine for myself whether I like and when I saw her, I was like, Yeah, I like this. So AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well this was good. great year, great season. I had fun. I know Steven hated the season. He's not gonna be happy that it's sixth. That's gonna be bad news for him. yeah, I might have Cody: He's he's getting ready for his unfiltered man. He is AGTCommenter: to go on and and have an unfiltered conversation about it being Minnesota Ryan: gosh. AGTCommenter: six on my my season's rankings, but a great in season coverage for AGT time again, Cody. Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: Congrats to you and and all of us that as we wrap up the second consecutive year of thirty two in season podcasts. Cody: Yes, AGTCommenter: and there was two less auditions this year, but we had callbacks, but it basically is kind of how it ended up sorting out was was Cody: Well you and you and you and you and you personally helped us get to thirty two by doing the solo pod by yourself. Great job on great job on that. Yes. AGTCommenter: Did the solo pod, yeah. Thank Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Yep. AGTCommenter: you. Thank you. I appreciate hopefully everybody listened. Yeah, so just awesome coverage. I'm really proud of what what we've been able to kind of put together and I I think we give people good, pertinent information every week that hopefully helps them enjoy the show a little bit more. But thirty two is not nothing. and last year we did sixty seven total pods. between in season and off season. So Cody, that means we've got somewhere between probably around thirty to thirty five podcasts coming up here in the off season. Cody: I'll I'll tell you when I joined this thing a decade ago, I never thought I would be doing something like this. AGTCommenter: I know. It's yeah. It's crazy. Jay's been here since the fifty second episode, I think. Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: He's been here for four hundred episodes now. Now he's only been on like half of those, but the the pod has recorded and put out four hundred episodes since he showed up. Cody: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: so it's been a fun it's been a fun ride. so another great season. really appreciate everybody that's contributed and and hopefully people like this. and hopefully we were able to To give some good info. Looking ahead, Cody. The Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: ballot reveal. So we're taking a little break. Cody's gonna kick us Cody: You won't hear us again till yeah, you won't hear us again till October. Unless something unless something big happens. I mean big. AGTCommenter: Yeah, so Cody's kicking its Yeah. Right. This is Cody's chance to kick his feet up. and so we're just gonna take a little break. Right now, the ballot reveal is scheduled to come out first week of November. There's a chance it comes out a little earlier than that. We'll keep people posted. but that'll be the official start of the off season and then AGT Rewatchables season seven will kick off with Mandy Harvey. we're scheduled to record that on Halloween right now. So Gonna take about a month off here. Cody and I talked. If we get the itch we might come back maybe a week early, but three or four weeks here. we'll take a little break. We appreciate everybody that's listening. the other thing I had. Is this are we are we done with Simon? Is it over, do you think? Cody: Yeah, I I think Minnesota Ryan: KSI time. Cody: yeah. No. So okay, coup couple thing couple things. So no, he was not good. And I AGTCommenter: Hopefully, God I hope not. He was horrific. He was so bad I couldn't believe it. Keenan was better. And I didn't think that was possible. I would I would have Keenan was better. Cody: I've watched a couple of BGT episodes with KS on and I'm like, man, that's he's just not good. He is not AGTCommenter: Yeah. Cody: good. coup so coup couple couple Minnesota Ryan: I might be in a different boat there, but that's all right. Cody: things. I mean, he's just not a good judge. I mean he might be you might enjoy his like AGTCommenter: yeah. It's like he did no prep. Cody: Yeah, he Minnesota Ryan: I mean he probably had no prep. AGTCommenter: Go watch the performances. Yeah. Yeah. No, clearly. Cody: it's it's not har it's not hard. Yeah, AGT send send him the clips of just the performances, yes. How how Minnesota Ryan: True, true, true, true. But KSI doesn't do that. Cody: long is your plane ride from London to LA? I mean AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, it was so bad. Cody: so Simon, we can we can talk about that. So Simon is is he done? The other thing is the stories that have come out about it moving to either Nashville or or AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: or Georgia. And so what do we think the likelihood of that is? Obviously we'll get more information of that maybe in I don't know, Christmas time, January AGTCommenter: Yeah. Cody: ish. But what do we kind of think what do we think about that? AGTCommenter: I have yet to figure out what it will matter outside Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: of a different theater. Right? Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: Cody, I know you mentioned times. Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: I would not get your Minnesota Ryan: Hm. AGTCommenter: hopes up about them record if the voice is on from Cody: You think it's still be you it would still be a nine PM live li live show? AGTCommenter: if the voice is on from seven to nine, I do. I I I I don't think this has anything to do with West Coast recording. I I cause if the people can stay up and watch, then why can't they stay up and record the episode? You know what I'm saying? Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: So I I'm with ya. I would I really hope that it doesn't start at nine Eastern. Cody: 'Cause that's I mean, your audience members are also there at nine to eleven Eastern, so AGTCommenter: I just if the T V time is the T V time, that's just what they're gonna do and Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: so I I I like the optimism on them not doing any late starts anymore, but it basically has been where the show just goes a week too long. If they just ended a week early, the voice hasn't started yet. I I don't understand why we can't get that figured out, but hopefully hopefully that isn't the case. Cody: Well, it's they wanna they wanna lead in. They w they're trying to drag the they're tr they're hoping that the A G T audience is showing up for the voice. So AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah. but other than that, I yeah, I guess I haven't totally it's interesting news maybe is they just won't location for us historians that it's kinda interesting of where the show is taking place and we're not gonna be in Hollywood anymore and stuff, but otherwise from a how the show will be put together and made I can't imagine we're gonna notice. Cody: Yeah, just I know a lot of Hollywood TV shows are moving to the Atlanta area to be produced. Like Walking Dead is done in the Atl it is cheaper there, yep. So But Simon, AGTCommenter: Yeah. It's just cheaper. Yeah. I hope this isn't Cody: I think Simon's done too. So yeah. AGTCommenter: I hope he's not. And not because I'm dying for him to be a judge, because I I think he's good, but I don't I don't think he's he's not the Simon Cow that became the great judge of all time. He's just not doing it the same way anymore, which is fine. This isn't the finish he should have had. This Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: wasn't the correct way to go out. He just disappeared. Like he should have his going away finale, you know, and Cody: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: and maybe I'm just a sucker for pomp and circumstance. I don't know. But I to me when you invent the show and you do this was his ten eleventh year as a judge, it shouldn't be a back surgery and then never show back up. But like Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: he needs a send off in my opinion. So that's why I hope he's back at least for season twenty two. Cody: We basically got a Dear John letter from him in the finals. It's like Yeah. AGTCommenter: Right. You couldn't yeah, d it was very so my hopes aren't high that that'll do that and but Ryan, do you think it's curtains for for Simon on the show? Minnesota Ryan: Any other judge I might say yes, I don't think they can do that for some. Even if they have to wheel him in there to to do whatever AGTCommenter: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: sort of thing they need to do, I think they're gonna try. 'Cause he he's more than just a judge that's been on the show. Like he is a large piece of the show's success. Like I think he will get a send off. Now the question whether he's gonna be a judge or not, I think that is up in the air and the I will bring up KSI as an example. I think he had no prep. I think they called him last minute and pulled him on in there and that tells me that this isn't what they expected to happen. And anytime you have medical issues or stuff, things change and we don't know. But they I do think they will try and give him a send off at least at some point in time, if it is his last time. AGTCommenter: just I knowing him well enough, I just think he's too vain not to give g to get one, you know. He's you know, the athletes that do the retirement tour, like you can usually Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: pretty much project which ones are gonna ask to have a retirement tour and which ones aren't. They're all the ones that are like super vain and and just think they're the best. Like and he deserves it. He does. I Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: you know, next year would be his twelfth season, that's not nothing. So Yeah, hopefully hopefully just for that sake he he's back at least one more year. but if he's not, it'll be a fascinating shakeup of who Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: who fills in, who takes over. Hopefully it's not Keenan. Hopefully it's not KSI. I I I s I think they'll wanna keep I think they'll I think I'm assuming Minnesota Ryan: But the but the clips from KSI were gonna be gonna be so viral. AGTCommenter: they will wanna keep the gender balance, if I had to guess. I doubt like 'cause Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: Heidi's an easy one to bring back or whatever, but I don't think they would want to do that. so be fascinated to see what they do. But but anyway, so great job this year, boys. Ballot reveal coming up in about a month. Rewatchables will start. We'll announce the class twenty twenty seven Hall of Fame in January. Cody and I are doing season fifteen rewatch in the spring. I think it's I extended it to twelve episodes now, Cody, so we get to spread it out just a little bit. But that'll be great. Get to go back to to COVID. Who doesn't love revisiting the pandemic? Always Cody: Ha ha ha. Minnesota Ryan: Yes. AGTCommenter: Fun fun subject matter. so yeah, summer twenty twenty, nothing was going on. Really pretty boring time. But we're gonna Minnesota Ryan: Yes. Great time of my medical career. Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: go back and revisit and I think it's gonna be very, very fascinating. I forgot a lot about that season, Cody. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: I think I just memory holed it. I like, I don't this season sucked. This was dumb. I don't care. Let's get to season sixteen. So I'm looking forward to that. Those broken roots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What a time. It was Minnesota Ryan: That was that was broken roots, right? They were second place. Man, gosh, what a time. Cody: Yes. And and listeners go check out our Selena r interview that we did. yeah. Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yes. Maybe we should rerun that before right as the week that the the rewatch starts too, or maybe Minnesota Ryan: Mm. AGTCommenter: on her audition week or whatever, but but yeah, so it's it's gonna be a fun off season. Great job guys. Cody, any other parting thoughts? maybe both of you on your last requiem for season twenty one. Cody: No, I mean I enjoyed this season. I thought it was a good season. I had fun watching the the acts and you know, it drove us little crazy sometimes of the acts that didn't go through that we thought should and but that happens almost every season, which is you know, just the way the game's played. But I I I I actually did enjoy it. I th I enjoyed you guys being on this season. I had a lot of fun with it. Let's let's do it again for season twenty two. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah, for me, like I said, obviously Nene is the big piece that I'm gonna definitely remember from this season. But like there's some acts that I'll remember and compare to future acts. Like I was like we brought up Veronica already, she's a AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: unique aerialist. Like I think Hundred Fingers did a different type of magic. We'll s maybe see other variations of that in the future. And obviously my boy Gino out there is probably my favorite personal from the season. I'm probably gonna try and add him into my little graphic of of successful acts on my teams. But like it was a fun season. That's probably gonna remember it is a fun season. That's about Cody: I think we're going to see some trends change, maybe. So like Veronica with the pole, we may see that more Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Cody: come out. Acro canine crew, we are now doing acrobatics and dogs. We're probably gonna see more of that. just like we did with Murmuration Brent Street. And now we have we have come here. So, you Minnesota Ryan: Mm. Come here and yeah. Cody: know, some of these these dance trends have now started to surface. I think some of the things that we saw this season will start to appear in the next couple seasons as well. AGTCommenter: Yeah. I'll say this for my last point. I did I did like the season. I thought it flowed and moved along and it didn't drag on and callbacks was a disaster from a entertainment. From an entertainment Cody: Yes, yes. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: standpoint was a was a a wildly, wildly boring four hours of my life. That Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: said, having two less audition episodes made this season so much better. Cause I'll take the Cody: Yes, it made it more bearable. AGTCommenter: two hours where I can just turn my brain off and not worry about it. And yeah. Callback sucked, but in the past, instead of those two episodes, we had two audition episodes where we had to pay attention to who was in it, and then guess what? They still didn't take any of them to live shows, anyways. Because as Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: we found out, they only take the ones from the first four, anyways. So like trimming off two auditions, I thought Cody made a and from a podcasting, I think you would probably it Cody: Yes it did. AGTCommenter: just made it Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: made the season nine auditions, ten auditions we've had in the past. It just the audition episodes are So repetitive. So I I like that. I wish they did a better job with callbacks, but I appreciated it from breaking up the mundane. Cody: It was a nice experiment. Let's not do it again. AGTCommenter: Yep. Yeah. Let's just do something like it but different. Let's just Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: but let's keep let's keep trimming auditions back and and having something else happen. Okay. All Cody: Yes. Agreed. Hundred percent. Yep. AGTCommenter: right. Great job everybody. Cody, how about you sign us off? We'll get out of here. Cody: Yeah, so you can find us on our socials at AGT Time Pod. You can email us AGT timepod at gmail.com. Go check out our website because the leaderboard stuff's gonna be out there. AGT timepod dot com. You can find Commenter out there at AGT Commenter. And if you want more analytics from Ryan, send him a note at at Minnesota underscore Ryan. Underscore Ryan. Don't forget that. Guys, Minnesota Ryan: Yes, we got it this time. We got it this time. No errors today. Cody: guys, great job great job. Season twenty-one. Commenter and I'll we'll be back in November. Everyone, have a great night.