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Tecuento T3 P18 - Dras. Natalia Muriel – Lorena Elhall y más · Tecuento

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  I call a program to share. Drive Daniel billinsonic Friday Vitrice to fourteen hours
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  by radio train topic with the stories ok the the all homes rooster will come.
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  I write my way without thinking, without thinking where, very good afternoon,
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  how everyone is. Thank you for being with us others, thank you
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  for joining us here. We' re in Argentina' s hottest radio studio
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  for the world. Today he is accompanying me in the operation as always and
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  musicalization. Juan Greco remember this number eleven twenty- six forty- two,
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  two, one thousand forty- two, eleven twenty- six, forty-
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  two, twenty forty- two, and those who want to speak from the
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  outside would read the prefix of Argentine fifty- four. This number is,
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  for consultations, for proposals, for you to want. And today is a
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  special day. Today we are joined by two dear friends of Córdoba. As
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  girls go, I call her girl, because she allows me the age of
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  saying girl. We are here with Dr Natalia Moriel and Dr Lorena elhal founder
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  of the Colibry Once project, as I always talked about the Colibrí project with
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  Libry Eleven. Yeah, yeah, you can talk as much as you want
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  this one. Although we mix we go well the project actually, but right
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  is called project Colibri. Ponce put him on because there was no Instagram.
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  To put it on Instagram, then it was already put as the name.
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  We added eleven. But Colibrí project is born of our personal history, both
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  Nate and mine, and in doing something good in that that happened to us
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  both Nati, good hummingbird project is an accompaniment for patients who are going through
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  a bological pastive cancer. And she' s born because, well, Naty
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  had breast cancer and everything she did, she lived, everything she felt she
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  needed at the time. And me because when I was eleven, my little
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  sister, almost two years old, dies of a neuroblast. And well,
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  that' s why I studied medicine, because one of the dreams was to
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  be a researcher and that cancer is covered. Well, and he does the
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  project that he would release as well in memory of my sister and in memory
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  of another friend that looks like two years ago. And, well, we
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  were both friends a long time ago. With Nati we did the residency together
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  for medical re- rejection. Then we went to study that coaching recently in
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  wings and in the course of that year, naty comes one day and says
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  get us something good, Dale and we did this project because we feel that
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  it is what it is like to give something to the world and to the
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  people who are going through this disease. And well, that' s how
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  project is born. I actually collided and the name magically arises because the morning
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  I love writing I edit and I have a diary and that morning I was
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  in the gallery and looking up at the sky, I tell my friend,
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  Pame the truth I want. I used to do aesthetic medicine. I want
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  to dedicate myself to this thing we' re doing with Nati, I want
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  to leave it aesthetic. And, well, it was a big step and
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  at that moment that I was talking to my friend to heaven, I was
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  next door, next to me it seems to be a noise and a hummingbird
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  appears above the table where I was and there was no picture at all,
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  it looks like the hummingbird and that afternoon we met with Nati to work that
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  just recently we were giving shape to all this and I tell him naty is
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  not something that happened to me this morning. I tell him and it'
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  s me, if you don' t know what happened to me. She
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  was in the patient- patient office and how much thinking about what we named
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  the project. And when you open the compu, it looks like a picture
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  of a hummingbird. So, there' s a whole connotation to the name
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  of the hummingbird project and it has a whole hummingbird project mission and we did
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  it online so you can reach all of Argentina and everyone. Well, a
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  little bit of the story about how you' re born is fine. Now
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  we know your voice and the friend' s voice to Nati. Well,
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  this does have to do with this power, that is, when you give
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  him the cancer diagnosis, at least in my case it was like that,
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  very shocking, very very shocking. And in that desperation you start to dig
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  a lot of things. I mean, I was looking for, I was
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  looking for and I was always looking for something that could tell me that well,
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  that I didn' t have the disease or that there was a magical
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  healing. And the reality that in all that search that I did not find,
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  but I did find people who showed up, that is, people I
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  would say as magical, because they were presented in the right moments one,
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  when they give the diagnosis, goes through a lot of stages, a lot
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  from anger to non- acceptance to good. All of me went through non
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  - acceptance and a lot of anger, a lot of anger and good.
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  This hummingbird project is a little transmitting those stages, being able to accompany in
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  those stages, giving small resources of things that one can do in simple cassap,
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  to feel better, to be better. I, at first, spent
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  a lot of money on a lot of things, but then I realized that
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  what I needed was very simple things. Yes, and I consider myself to
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  be a very lucky person, because while the whole diagnosis of the disease,
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  I had a medical team that accompanied me always listened to me. We have
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  fought, but we have listened and reached conclusions together. She had a family
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  that was always yes, I mean, I was never alone. I had
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  friends and magical people who appeared and talked about magical people as people who communicated
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  with me, by friends of friends I didn' t know, who told
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  me and who directed me to wear cold helmets. I have two boys or
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  they were telling me all that happened to them with their diagnosis of how the
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  chemo went through and all that information was so important, so valuable to me,
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  because many times the doctors, I as a doctor, also do not
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  give that little information that gives you as much security or allows you to go
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  through a chemo in a much calmer way. Then it is this to be
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  able to transmit, to be able to transmit what has been lived, the
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  experience of the company, to be with other people who are happening to him
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  the same thing. So, well, the idea of hummingbird project is to
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  accompany and, above all, it was, to empower in the sense that
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  when these things happen to us, the body is telling us enough yes and
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  means enough a lot of things that we kept quiet that we couldn' t
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  put words or things that we did because we had to do the imposed ones.
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  So it' s being able to hear what the body is telling you
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  and be able to empower you. In other words, it is not only
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  to receive the healing of the professionals, of the aquiños doctors, but to
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  say good what happened to me to be like this and to be able to
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  take charge of the health and to be able to face those things and I
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  speak from the quality of life, from a diet, a physical activity,
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  from a good rest, from stress to the management of emotions. Yeah,
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  I mean, I had to learn how to handle my emotions. I had
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  to learn to breathe, I had to learn to do a lot of things
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  that were not in my daily life and I had to unlearn everything I had
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  learned. So good humming is that, that is, being able to transmit
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  that force that helps us to empower ourselves from our health. Well, as
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  a barbarous presentation, we' ve already taken from the base that, if
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  you' re doctors, you have knowledge of the medical health issue. Looking
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  into what you have published, I kept a sentence that I stole from you
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  for a time that seems very good to me. What you accept in them,
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  it transforms you. I thought it was a very interesting synthesis, because
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  you were just saying that you had to relearn things, accept things, and
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  that' s exactly where the doctors are. I' m not banging the
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  medical corporation. All with respect and quiet pride. Guys, we always fall
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  into your hands. But it happens that and this doesn' t happen to
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  doctors, they happen to many professions. I' d say all of them.
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  One is imbued with the profession and all the knowledge that transmits you and
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  that you can explore or study and there comes a time that you are in
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  that world and you transmit it until it happens. What has happened to you
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  in a different way is what personal experience, personal situation, makes us see
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  that world on the other side of the outside, on the side of the
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  patient, of the sufferer, of which you do not have so much information,
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  because already having a medical training, gives an information, an information then
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  there is the other. In that sense, this hummingbird project eleven frames it,
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  because a hummingbird project When you put in googly hummingbird projects and come out
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  movies, you see movies, episodes and I said no. We' re
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  not here, we' re not here, we' re not with two
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  actresses, we' re going doctors, and there I woke up to be
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  eleven. Only you in Cordoba. You' re in Córdoba City. Yes,
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  yes, they attend people, they have a physical place to attend people
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  in Córdoba City today only online. It' s only online, only online.
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  Well to connect with you there is an email or there is only one
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  put on Instagram hummingbird project eleven and you can already communicate directly with you.
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  They' re communicating yes, yes, no tie. This project is polibre
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  eleven and there is the telephone number To our three five, one, three
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  hundred, seven hundred, one, forty- six, forty- six.
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  It' s mine, okay. All right, that' s one way
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  in. The other is the three five, one, two hundred, thirteen,
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  eight, four, seven and five. I remember. We' re
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  going to keep repeating so that people who are interested, who must be enough,
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  can communicate. Not when you' re being raised, you' ve
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  always had a family member who' s had this situation happen to you.
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  But in your words, when you are told that you have cancer, you
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  were talking about stages. What are the stages that one goes through, especially
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  at least they are experienced. It' s anger, I mean, the
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  first stage was the I don' t know, yeah, the no.
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  Acceptance. It was like when they told me I had cancer, I said
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  why not and I lay down and I wanted to get up and say that
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  nothing had happened and it was getting worse and worse. Then I started digging
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  through a lot of doctors, I saw a lot of gynecologists, a lot
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  of mastologists, I mean, I hadn' t accepted. What was happening
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  to me later was anger. I was angry with everyone, with everyone,
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  that is, with my husband, with work, with what happened to me
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  even with my children, everything to see anger, everything was projection out and
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  then came as an acceptance. I remember knowing my psychologist by chance but he
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  was a person who helped me a lot and the first thing he told me
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  was the disease. This one at the service of health and when he told
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  me I hated her all my life, I mean, I hated her.
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  I couldn' t accept what she was saying to me and I' m
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  even saying she' s crazy about me. He' s telling me,
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  I mean, he was telling me with a calm and quietness that today,
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  what he told me at that time, I think so, and the reality
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  that to me, to cancer came to save, that is, he came
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  to make me, grow, transform, to make me, to make me,
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  to love me was a person who, to the outside was all divine,
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  that is, everything that a vice wanted to have at forty- one
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  years a growing profession, married two children, had everything, I couldn'
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  t complain about anything and suddenly I realized that I had nothing, that happened
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  to me and other things happened that in one minute life changed and in that
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  minute I had to start really rebuilding myself, and that reconstruction had to find
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  me. And I think one of the stages of all this is to be
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  able to find, is to be able to learn to love each other and
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  pull out that hatred that maybe I had for the outside and start taking responsibility
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  for what was happening to me internally and I think that' s where my
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  growth started and that I' m still in this stage of growth. But
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  I think it' s the non- acceptance, it' s the anger,
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  it' s the acceptance and after passing the disease, of going through
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  all that is surgery, which is very hard to pass the chemo that I
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  say the equimium taught me, that is to say the disease taught me a
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  lot of things, I mean taught me not to have control of anything,
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  I mean I realized that I thought I had control of everything and the reality
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  that I didn' t have control of anything. I only had control of
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  how I wanted to live that moment that was happening to me. One question.
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  Yeah, right side, the left side, the right side, parental
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  mandates, and you whipped that, uh, you looked into that, you
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  saw how it gets you to everything, everything, everything, everything. Yes,
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  there is going to be this what I would call the society of the
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  holy and not holy and unknown, but it is being fulfilled. Yes,
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  the organism sends you signals, you don' t understand them or you don
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  ' t listen to them because of the vortex of the moment and until he
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  says good if you don' t, whether you speak or don' t
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  know, I' m going to yell at you and yell at you that
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  way we have left you a silence to lore No when you do and that
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  I ask Lorena exactly when you do the approach of the patient or the person
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  who is going to consult him, because he can be a patient or he
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  can be a relative of a patient. How it addresses reality and how we
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  approach it when a family member comes, whether it is family members or not
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  yet working with family members. We' re going to set up a family
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  workshop, because family containment is very important, because things happen to the family,
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  as well as to the patient having all their stages. The relative'
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  s got them from somewhere else, too. So, that' s in
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  creation. We' re arming ourselves. It' s coming out soon,
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  but now we' re on the show. It' s only for people
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  who are going through the disease. That' s it now. It'
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  s a month- long workshop, a month- long workshop. It'
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  s divided into two parts. There are seven live zooms and then we have
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  an accompaniment for Whatsapp. Daily that in that accompaniment by Whatsapp. That'
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  s where we vandalize everything that' s theoretical information. We' re giving
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  them exercises to do all that. From the health coach. We' re
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  going to couple them so they can empower themselves, so they can make the
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  change. We have accompanied them, we give them motivational phrases, musical themes.
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  We showed them our side too. If we have to make a recipe,
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  we show you a recipe. If we are showing you the importance of
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  contact with nature well, we show you that we also do it and send
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  you pictures. That' s for Whatsapp and then live. There are seven
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  zoos in the course of the month and in that zoom we are and there
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  are other professionals who accompany us and are experiential. Some are going to be
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  recorded for people who just at that time cannot be there and others are not
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  recorded those who work emotions, because it is a very personal subject. Sometimes
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  things come up in the zoom. So it' s not good that that
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  ' s recorded, but all that material is held by the participants to see
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  it, to have it, and so do we. We don' t
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  do any treatment, no doctor, no nutrition, no group therapy. It
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  is all a accompaniment and we educate them and all that is in well-
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  being. Today, each patient wants to delve into them with the professionals or
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  follow them with the professionals that they are. It would be a therapeutic accompaniment.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is an accompaniment to that and take
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  their lives and they make all the necessary changes and what they are taught.
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  From this there are participants who added the nutrition part and changed the nutrition a
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  lot. Others were helped that they realized that when we were working on emotions,
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  they realized something and served them that. Another served the part of contact
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  with nature and sport. We' ve got it plotted modules. It'
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  s four modules. The first module is nutrition. The second module is all
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  that is physical activity, recreation, nature. The other module this what it
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  is to manage emotions. And the last module works the aesthetics. So everything
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  that the patient is going through with the subject of hair loss, when his
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  skin is dried, if they wear cold helmets and we also have an experiential
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  workshop of what beauty is to connect with the inner beefs, then it is
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  divided into four, four modules and it is all online. The workshop has
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  a cost. Yes, it has a cost, how much. Oh,
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  yes, it has a cost. Fifty- five thousand pesos a month,
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  all month. The participant can also, if he wants, enter next month,
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  because the part that is to live, the part that is of emotions.
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  It' s never been the same. It' s not repeated,
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  because it depends a lot on the group and what comes out in the group.
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  So that' s different. You love me and nutrition, although we
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  start with the basic part, with the basic care and minimal changes that have
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  to be made, if there are people who have already done it, the
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  issue is deepening in nutrition, that is, people, if they want to
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  be, to accompany themselves, to continue to have information and to be part
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  of a tribe can do it every month that we open them, because the
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  program opens one day, closes at the end of the month and stays to
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  a group. It' s the hummingbird program one two, and that'
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  s fine. It' s okay. What reception they had with the doctors
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  We are now going to visit him and many the truth that we receive well,
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  as they are so grateful that there is this accompaniment group. We are
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  also in a group of functional physicians, because we are forming functional medicine and
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  there, among those doctors also the opening is much wider, because being functional
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  medicine, they look to the common patient everything not only the part. This
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  is a medicame you have this symptom and I give you this medication. So,
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  well, we' ve been well received. You' ve received well.
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  The truth is fine. Remind me, friends, that who is interested
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  you can call the three, five, one, three, seven, myth,
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  one, forty- six, forty- six or three, five,
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  one, two, one, three, eight, four, seven and five,
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  but an email project Colibry two thousand twenty- three arroba gmail com.
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  Not if we' re out there the way the team is. They talked
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  about the team, how it is constituted. There' s a base team,
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  you two and people who are with you. Or it' s according
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  to necessity. We don' t have a set team. We' re
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  two more, two psychologists, two coach, another doctor' s doctor,
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  a nutritionist and a physical trainer. So, in each module we' re
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  working. We both always attend the Whatsapp every day, all queries come through
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  us. But with the team we' re in permanent communication and that'
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  s what they' re here to sustain. And that' s the nice
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  thing, because well, we all get feedback. And well and the emotional
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  part is very important and there we do many experiential works with psychologists and coach.
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  Psychologists have orientation from gestation and family constellations and apart, they are trained
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  in all that is the horistic approach to health and disease. And the interesting
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  thing is that they make the symptoms talk, the organs. It is amazing
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  to see the other side of what comes to express a symptom, an organ
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  and good and is very representative for people. While it does not delve into
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  the individual form, exercises are given for the group to show you something later,
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  if you already want to deepen, the members go into that depth of
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  them with the professionals they choose, not with you, but with us.
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  They can go and if they have an accompaniment with another therapist. You'
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  re also welcome. We don' t take his therapists, we don'
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  t question medical treatments, nothing. That is, we show him everything that
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  has served us on our learning path. Trusted professionals, also ours and to
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  whom we recommend to me. If I' m at a friend meeting and
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  someone tells me I need a nourishment and I need this, it' s
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  professionals I recommended before we put together the project. Not so good. They
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  ' re trustworthy, they' re good people, they' re very capable.
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  One of them has been my psychologist, it has been my coach and
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  I changed a lot thanks to their accompaniment and help. They have empathy with
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  the patient. Yes, yes, and they all gave us a yes because
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  they believed in our project, in our dream, because this was a dream.
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  It is not from this format that we know then all this way,
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  is to go, learning day by day with the return of the participants.
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  We' re open to everyone to improve, but we don' t have
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  a guide like maybe it happened to me in aesthetic medicine, which was going
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  to a course. They told you to do this, this, this,
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  if anything happened, we had a referent like the one to handle us with
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  consultation. This was a dream. We created it from our need and from
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  what added to us what is happening, and these professionals joined in giving a
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  yes to our dreams. Really there we are, in that we are grateful.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. In addition, the action you are doing
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  is important a little bit because of what you were saying not only the medical
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  question or the reaction or support of the family, but how each patient is
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  building the solution. Or how to overcome the inconvenience, because we know stories
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  of people that you are doing to help and complement with the groups that are
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  formed in the Lascheme. It is impressive how when a person follows a group
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  of chemo and integrates with people who are about to finish or those who are
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  in the middle, those who just started, how a community that often lasts
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  beyond the solution of the problem begins to arm itself. Yeah, so,
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  yeah, besides that, because it' s a support between the same patients
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  and family members. Your activity complements much more in that regard. Well,
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  we have our time. Give her forgiveness that I wanted to tell you this,
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  Dani, it is also, apart from accompanying them, the mission and
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  the message, because you patient, who are in this process, when you
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  go out and change your lifestyle, that can spread it to your environment,
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  your children, your relatives, your beings, your friends. And this is
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  so that the form of well- being is multiplied also, that is,
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  how we are going to do well- being so that once chronic diseases are
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  preventable, then it is going to be prevention. And if we say well,
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  hopefully, through prevention, in the future we will not have to go
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  through an oncological process, a dream far beyond. But that is also the
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  message, yes, the patient who overcomes these situations. And I say this
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  with knowledge of cause, not mine for now, but my lord. It
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  ' s an example for the family. That first fight you had. So
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  do the sons, the daughters for two things, one because it affects the
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  mother and the other because what is going to happen to me because there may
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  be a projection through the genes, through the situations, the mandates, the
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  mandates are very strong. Then the family reacts to the first reaction about all
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  the children, the young daughters who have not had that experience and says it
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  is affecting my mother, the essence of the family and then, that mother
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  or that patient begins to talk about what happens to her in the kimbio groups,
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  what happens to her doctor, happens to her psychologist and others, and
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  starts girls take care of themselves, take care of this, take care of
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  it and transforms into a trainer, into a trainer, because you also get
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  caught up in surprise. We' re talking here, we' re talking
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  a lot about mom' s cancer to women, but it' s amazing.
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  I was surprised by the number of men with impressive cancer. So,
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  well, we all go in there, we all have to take care of
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  each other differently. We left Nati We left here. That' s good,
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  there we are, girls. I' m very pleased to have known
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  them, to have detected them We' re talking here today with the radio
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  address. People like you, people who make you want because you realize when
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  the people you propose a space to, make you feel like it. And
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  if that win they put for this to come true. This interview is the
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  usual one you put on your job. The truth is, it' s
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  going to be really good. The only thing left for us, I mean,
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  keep us posted on what' s going on. If there is any
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  news or there is any need to convey something, we are at your disposal
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  simply a call a contact and I would like it not to be lost.
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  Yes, because it does a lot of people good and in addition to having
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  done good to you, to everything around you and so on, to hear
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  that there is a possibility that you are healthy up to now, that you
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  are healthy to hear that there is one possibility of something else, of a
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  complement to the traditional, because sometimes giving such news is not good. Or
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  you don' t know how to talk Sometimes how you can express yourself in
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  a news, a notification with that a happy thing. Yes, a week
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  ago we were talking to a colleague of human relations and we were talking about
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  being told that we were originally called midwifes and undertakers because we gave the news
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  of you getting a job, you come to work with us, that is,
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  when the doctor tells us you are healthy, you go out and celebrate
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  and there may be many things after there is the other, the news that
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  you have to tell him. In my case, as a professional you see,
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  you follow us here and there are ways to say it, because I
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  still see people who didn' t like that situation. But it' s
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  how you transmit it, how you tell things, and I think you can
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  teach a lot in that way. So I give them. Thank you.
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  We' ll keep you in mind here by passing your phone, your email
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  for those who consult us and thank you from the heart and you know we
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  ' re here something else. Thank you, well, something more of you
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  many great, good by d for the company, for all of you.
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  Thankful success now and let' s know how they' re going, and
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  we' re moving forward. We' ll all see when they have branches,
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  let me chat with the directors of each branch with the states. A
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  hug of the heart. Hey bye, guys, big kiss bye. We
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  continue with our hot like box, irine flsoichos me tru like as solide hou
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  bob woo o. Well, well, the truth is that it' s
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  very good, notes very very interesting to see the things that are accomplished by
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  experiences. We need to take advantage of our experiences and see this. It
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  ' s meeting a need what you' re doing on TV and Lorraine.
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  It is to satisfy a need that society has. Wherever you are, big
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  city, small city, town whatever and talking and hooking us up with this
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  meeting needs. Let' s hear a word from our yoga teacher who'
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  s already been with us and you' ve already heard us. Alejandra Faena
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  about yoga steps hello listeners I tell you. I am Alefaena, teacher of
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  jata Shoa and meditation, and here I will leave you a reflection on the
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  eight steps of the Yoga of Patangelis more than five thousand years ago, but
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  if I want to tell you a little more fluidly, without so much,
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  protocol and the eight steps are the following. They are called Llama, Niyama,
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  Asanas, Prana, Llamas, Pratiara, Darana, Diana and Samadi.
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  Now I' m going to tell you about Jama who calls. They are
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  our mental tendencies, they are our samskaras, which are our thoughts. All
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  that we have in mind, that we have to go polishing and improving it,
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  we have to go with a mind towards a slightly higher realization. That
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  ' s what the shoggis tell us. The shogis tell us. So,
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  inside Llama, we have non- violence. What do you say to Imsa?
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  We, human beings, have three ways of being violent with the word,
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  with the acts, and with the mind. With the word we already
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  know when we are hurtful to another person, with what we say, with
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  acts, when we generate physical aggression to another person and with the mind,
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  when we think evil of others. It' s almost impossible not to have
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  some kind of violence. This is what shows tell us that all human beings
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  have at al al s some kind of violence, but that it is very
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  important to observe this point to work it out. Mental violence is when we
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  are thinking of someone else, how bad it is, how ugly it did
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  this, how it did the other thing. Well, all this, all
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  these ruminant thoughts, tell us the shogis, are bad for ourselves too.
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  Then, well, I leave them as a reflection for you to observe and
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  see each one the points to improve and to work. The shogi tell us
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  that this is worked through meditation practices, breathing practices Parana llamas, which is
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  another of the yoga steps that I will be telling you in another audio.
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  I hope it' ll do you nothing else. That' s good.
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  Yes, it serves us, Alejandro, if it serves us and if we
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  join it with the first interview, here is included the topic of reflections.
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  Meditations help a lot next and closing today. This story is by Carlos Ruiz
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  Zafón and is called Vapor' s wife. I never confessed it to anyone,
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  but I got the floor of pure miracle that I had to kiss from
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  tango. I worked as a secretary for the farm manager of the first second
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  I met her one night in July, when the century burned with steam and
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  despair. I slept in the open on a bench in the square. When
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  I woke up the touch of a few lips. You need a place to
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  stay. Laura drove me to the portal. The building was one of those
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  vertical mausoleums that haunted the old city a labyrinth of gargoyles and patched over whose
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  atrium was read one thousand eight hundred sixty- six, I followed them up
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  the stairs almost groping at our passage the building that creaked like old ships.
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  Laura didn' t ask me about payroll or references. Better, because in
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  jail you don' t get one or the other. The attic was the
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  size of my cell, a stay suspended on the roof tundra. I'
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  ll take it. I told him to tell the truth, after three years
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  in prison, he had lost the sense of smell and the voices that breathed
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  through the walls. It wasn' t new. The time went up almost
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  every night. His cold skin and fog breath were the only thing he didn
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  ' t burn in that hellish summer. At dawn Laura lost herself down the
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  stairs in silence. During the day I used to sleep. The neighbors of
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  the ladder had a gentle kindness that confers misery. I counted six families,
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  all with children and old people, who smelled of Hollin and ground removed.
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  My favorite was Don Florian, who lived right below and painted dolls. On
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  request, I spent weeks without leaving the building. The spiders traced arabesques at
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  my door, Luisa, the third one, always brought me something to eat
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  not Florián, lent me old magazines and challenged me to domino games. The
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  crypts on the stairs invited me to play hide- and- seek. For
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  the first time in my life I felt welcome, almost dear. At midnight,
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  Laura had her nineteen years wrapped in white silk and let herself be as
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  if it were the last time she loved her until the year, filling me
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  in her body with all that she had stolen from me in life. Then
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  I dreamt in black and white, like dogs and fuckers. Even the spoils
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  of life like me are granted an assumption of happiness in this world. That
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  summer it was mine when the city council arrived at the end of August I
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  took them for police the downing engineer told me that he had nothing against the
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  squatters, but that, feeling it a lot, he was going to dynamite
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  the building. There must be a mistake, I said. Every chapter of
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  my life started with that phrase. He ran down the stairs to the estate
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  manager' s office to find Laura how much there was a hanger and a
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  half a span of dust he went up to Don Florian' s house.
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  Fifty eyeless dolls would rot in darkness. I went through the building looking for
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  a neighbor. Silence passageways were stacked under rubble. This estate has been closed
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  since a thousand nine hundred and thirty- nine. Young man reported to me
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  the bomb that killed the occupants damaged the structure without remedy. We had a
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  few words. I think I pushed him downstairs. This time the judge took
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  off at ease. The former companions had kept my bed. He was telling
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  me in total. You always come back hernanel from the library. He found
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  me the clipping with the news of the bombing on the body photos. S
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  are lined up in pine boxes, disfigured by shrapnel, but recognizable. A
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  blood shroud spreads over the cobblestones. Laura wears white, hands on her chest
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  open. It' s been two years now, but in prison you live
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  or die. Remembrances. Prison guards think they' re smart, but she
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  knows how to circumvent controls. At midnight his lips wake me up. It
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  brings back memories of Don Floriano and the others. You will always want me
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  to ask truth and I say yes ja remember what you deny you, submit
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  what you accept from transformed friends. We' re at the end of this
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  episode. I wish you a very good week, and I' ll call
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  you next Friday. Thirteen o' clock over here on Radio Train Topic.
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  See you.