Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 23 October
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- 0:11Speaker 1: He's reform it.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Well, good evening, I'm James macpherson, filling in for Andrew Bolt,
- 0:18Speaker 2: who will be back next week. Another green dream failure
- 0:21Speaker 2: from the government, with the Energy Regulator Boss admitting he
- 0:24Speaker 2: can't promise cheaper energy prices. A new poll shows the
- 0:28Speaker 2: majority of Australians reject the government's Misinformation Bill and are
- 0:32Speaker 2: worried it could be used for political purposes. Plus, we'll
- 0:36Speaker 2: get all the latest from the US. Former White House
- 0:39Speaker 2: Press Secretary Sean Spicer will join me shortly, but first.
- 0:43Speaker 2: With less than two weeks to go until the US
- 0:46Speaker 2: presidential election, Joe Biden has called for Donald Trump to
- 0:50Speaker 2: be put in jail. Honestly, you could not make this
- 0:54Speaker 2: stuff up. It's the Democrats who have continually warned that
- 0:57Speaker 2: Donald Trump is a threat to the rule of law.
- 1:00Speaker 2: And it's the Democrats who have continually warned that Donald
- 1:02Speaker 2: Trump is a threat to democracy. And yet here's Joe
- 1:06Speaker 2: Biden in a speech. Vladimir Putin would be proud of
- 1:09Speaker 2: calling for the Republican candidate to be imprisoned just fourteen
- 1:13Speaker 2: days before the election.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I said this five years ago, you'd locked me up.
- 1:19Speaker 1: We gotta like him up.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Now. Biden's team have pointed out that after calling for
- 1:28Speaker 2: Trump to be locked up, Biden did belatedly add politically,
- 1:32Speaker 2: lock him up. But what does it mean to lock
- 1:34Speaker 2: someone up politically? Like most of what Biden and Harris
- 1:38Speaker 2: and Walt say, it doesn't even make sense. But isn't
- 1:41Speaker 2: it telling that Biden's promoting jail for Trump rather than
- 1:46Speaker 2: promoting policies in a bid to help Harris win the election.
- 1:50Speaker 2: While Americans are dealing with a major crises at the border,
- 1:54Speaker 2: skyrocketing inflation, crumbling national security, the Democrats are obsessed with
- 1:59Speaker 2: putting Donald Trump in prison. Their willingness to jail a
- 2:03Speaker 2: political opponent is not just divisive, it's dangerous. It's an
- 2:07Speaker 2: assault on the will of the people and the kind
- 2:09Speaker 2: of stupid, reckless moves that could spark a civil war.
- 2:13Speaker 2: But accusing Trump of being a threat to democracy whilst
- 2:16Speaker 2: themselves calling for him to be jailed two weeks before
- 2:20Speaker 2: an election continues a pattern on the left where they
- 2:23Speaker 2: accuse their opponents of doing the very thing they're doing
- 2:26Speaker 2: while they're doing it now. This allows them to act
- 2:30Speaker 2: shocked at the flames whilst being the arsonist. And if
- 2:34Speaker 2: you're not sure what I mean by that he listened
- 2:36Speaker 2: to former President Barack Obama this week.
- 2:40Speaker 3: I don't understand how we got so toxic and just
- 2:44Speaker 3: so divide and so better, And I get why sometimes
- 2:47Speaker 3: people just don't want to pay attention to it. And
- 2:50Speaker 3: we all have friends like that, we have family members
- 2:52Speaker 3: wore just like ah, you know, it's all it's all
- 2:55Speaker 3: a circus out there.
- 2:56Speaker 4: I get that.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Things get so toxic and so bitter.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Gee.
- 3:03Speaker 2: I don't know, but maybe telling black men that the
- 3:05Speaker 2: only reason they wouldn't vote for a black candidate is
- 3:08Speaker 2: because they're sexist could have something to do with it.
- 3:12Speaker 5: And you're coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses.
- 3:15Speaker 5: I've got a problem with that, because part of it
- 3:21Speaker 5: makes me fair not speaking to men directly. Part of
- 3:25Speaker 5: it makes me think that, well, you just aren't feeling
- 3:29Speaker 5: the idea of having a woman as president, and you're
- 3:33Speaker 5: coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for them.
- 3:35Speaker 5: That's not exciting.
- 3:40Speaker 2: That was a week ago. Now, Obama, cris Oh, the division,
- 3:43Speaker 2: all the toxicity. If you don't want division, maybe you
- 3:47Speaker 2: don't promise your presidency will end the racial divide, only
- 3:50Speaker 2: to then perform a medal winning backflip once in office
- 3:53Speaker 2: and start dividing everyone by race. But I sympathize with
- 3:57Speaker 2: Biden's confusion. I don't understand how those racist, transphobic, misogynistic,
- 4:02Speaker 2: deplorable low iq backwood hillbilly Republicans are so bitter all
- 4:05Speaker 2: the time either. It's just weird. But if you want
- 4:08Speaker 2: the best example of projection from the Democrats, you can't
- 4:12Speaker 2: go past Kamala's running mate Tim Waltz, who had this
- 4:15Speaker 2: to say about Elon Musk overnight.
- 4:18Speaker 3: Elon's on that stage, jumping around, skipping like a dip
- 4:23Speaker 3: on these stones.
- 4:25Speaker 5: You know where.
- 4:28Speaker 2: The toxicity, the division, where's it all coming from? And
- 4:31Speaker 2: when Waltz accuses Musk of prancing around on stage, well,
- 4:36Speaker 2: let's have a look at Tim Waltz's campaign so far.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Fair bit of prancing around there. But like I said,
- 4:54Speaker 2: accusing others of doing the very thing they are doing
- 4:57Speaker 2: while they're doing it is about the only thing the
- 5:00Speaker 2: Left excel at. Now, before we get into the news
- 5:07Speaker 2: of the day, I want to show you this incredible
- 5:09Speaker 2: footage of a two thousand pound bomb striking a multi
- 5:13Speaker 2: story apartment block in Beirut. Israel said they dropped the
- 5:17Speaker 2: bomb because it was the apartment building was housing Hesbila assets.
- 5:23Speaker 2: What's incredible is that cameras caught the bomb mid air,
- 5:27Speaker 2: right before it struck the base of the building. Check
- 5:29Speaker 2: out this still image. The bomb is clearly visible just
- 5:32Speaker 2: as it's about to level the apartment block. Okay, so
- 5:36Speaker 2: now you've seen that, let me show you the video footage.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Take a look.
- 5:53Speaker 5: Now.
- 5:53Speaker 2: What I thought was really interesting about that footage is
- 5:56Speaker 2: that no one is yelling, no one's running around or away,
- 6:00Speaker 2: and at least last report, there were no casualties. When
- 6:03Speaker 2: the bomb strikes, there's a crowd standing off at a
- 6:06Speaker 2: safe distance with cameras out ready to record, like they
- 6:10Speaker 2: knew the apartment building was about to be struck. The
- 6:13Speaker 2: only conclusion is that Israel gave warning that the building
- 6:16Speaker 2: was going to be hit, as they've repeatedly claimed they
- 6:19Speaker 2: do where possible when taking action against terrorists embedded amongst civilians.
- 6:25Speaker 2: And notice that the crowd was so confident at the
- 6:27Speaker 2: accuracy of the Israeli targeting they were happy to stand
- 6:30Speaker 2: within one block, not with heads covered, but with phones
- 6:34Speaker 2: ready to record. And yet Israel's critics continue to accuse
- 6:37Speaker 2: them of indiscriminate bombing. Well, that looked indiscriminate to within
- 6:42Speaker 2: a few millimeters. For those who keep insisting that Israel
- 6:45Speaker 2: is conducting this war without regard for civilian life, this
- 6:49Speaker 2: would appear to back up Israel's insistence that its war
- 6:52Speaker 2: is against terrorists, not the Gazans or the Lebanese. If
- 6:57Speaker 2: only the terrorists were as committed to valuing human life
- 6:59Speaker 2: as the Israelis, the death toll in this terrible conflict
- 7:03Speaker 2: would be considerably less. But then, I guess that's the
- 7:06Speaker 2: big difference between terrorist groups in the Middle East's only
- 7:10Speaker 2: liberal democracy. Right. Well, if you're still holding out hope
- 7:17Speaker 2: that Anthony Albanezi will come good on his promised two
- 7:19Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars power bill reduction, I've got
- 7:22Speaker 2: bad news. You are completely delusional. And even if you
- 7:26Speaker 2: weren't delusional, the government most certainly is. The boss of
- 7:29Speaker 2: Australia's energy market operator has told a Senate Estimates hearing
- 7:33Speaker 2: earlier today that there was no guarantee the government's renewable
- 7:37Speaker 2: energy plans would lead to lower prices. Well, you don't say,
- 7:41Speaker 2: here's Australian Energy Market Operator Boss Daniel Westermann.
- 7:46Speaker 6: But you're saying you cannot guarantee that the current government
- 7:49Speaker 6: policy settings which you model will deliver lower power prices.
- 7:54Speaker 7: I can't guarantee that, no, And what I would say
- 7:57Speaker 7: is we try to be quite clear about the communication
- 8:03Speaker 7: of our message, which is that the integrated System Plan,
- 8:08Speaker 7: which considers these things generation, storage and major transmission upgrades,
- 8:13Speaker 7: is the lowest cost pathway. It doesn't refer to whether
- 8:17Speaker 7: it's cheaper or more expensive for that wholesale component.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Only last week, Energy Minister Chris Bowen had this to say,
- 8:26Speaker 2: renewable energy is the cheapest form of energy. So who's
- 8:32Speaker 2: telling the truth, Chris Bowen or Daniel Westerman. To be sure,
- 8:35Speaker 2: Daniel Westerman isn't telling us anything our power bills haven't
- 8:38Speaker 2: already said. Joining me is National's MP Keith Pitt and
- 8:42Speaker 2: Michael Costa forming New South Wales Labor Treasurer. Gentlemen, thanks
- 8:47Speaker 2: for joining me tonight. You'd both remember this promise repeated
- 8:50Speaker 2: ninety seven times prior to Anthony Albenzi winning office.
- 8:55Speaker 8: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
- 8:58Speaker 9: By twenty twenty five two hundred and seven tenty five
- 9:00Speaker 9: dollars A year.
- 9:01Speaker 4: Two and seventy five dollars a year will.
- 9:05Speaker 9: Get power prices down by two hundred and seventy five
- 9:07Speaker 9: dollars a year.
- 9:09Speaker 2: So Michael Costa helped me out with this. Was that misinformation,
- 9:13Speaker 2: disinformation or just a complete and utter con job? I
- 9:17Speaker 2: think the latter.
- 9:18Speaker 1: I think it was a complete con job.
- 9:20Speaker 9: Look from the Prime Minister's point of view, I don't
- 9:23Speaker 9: think he understands the industry anyhow, and he was just
- 9:26Speaker 9: repeating a slogan and somebody gave him. But certainly the
- 9:29Speaker 9: Energy Minister ort to know better or else he's a
- 9:32Speaker 9: complete ignoramas so they've got to conclude he's being deceptive.
- 9:37Speaker 9: And the fundamental problem here is that he keeps talking
- 9:39Speaker 9: about energy and what people use in their home is power.
- 9:43Speaker 9: You know, it's all very well to go around saying
- 9:44Speaker 9: that renewables is the cheapest form of energy. You've actually
- 9:48Speaker 9: got to get that energy into a home for it
- 9:51Speaker 9: to be used as power, and that's really the whole
- 9:53Speaker 9: system issue, and that's what they're being deceptive about. They
- 9:56Speaker 9: don't talk about the transmission costs, they don't talk about
- 9:59Speaker 9: the baseload requirements, that don't talk about the poles of wires.
- 10:03Speaker 9: All of these things are what adds to the final costs.
- 10:05Speaker 9: So to focus on you one minute of the day
- 10:08Speaker 9: or an hour of the day in terms of renewables
- 10:12Speaker 9: is just deception.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Keith Pitt is part of the problem here. They talk
- 10:17Speaker 2: about this being the lowest cost pathway. Now, of course
- 10:21Speaker 2: by pathway they mean the pathway to net zero. So
- 10:25Speaker 2: electricity is always going to be expensive. While ever we're
- 10:28Speaker 2: on that path, is it not? The issue is net zero?
- 10:32Speaker 2: We should scrap it?
- 10:35Speaker 10: Well, the lowest cost pathway to the cheapest and most
- 10:37Speaker 10: reliable electricity is coal.
- 10:40Speaker 2: It absolutely is.
- 10:41Speaker 10: And yet we've got industry across this country that are
- 10:44Speaker 10: offsetting their carbon emissions so they can maintain the systems
- 10:47Speaker 10: and industry that they have in place. And yet the
- 10:51Speaker 10: coal network gets completely denigrated by people like Chris Bowen
- 10:55Speaker 10: and others. And yet it is the most affordable and
- 10:57Speaker 10: most reliable mechanism to generate electricity in this country. Now,
- 11:01Speaker 10: if you want it to be zero missions, well the
- 11:03Speaker 10: next one up a list is nuclear.
- 11:05Speaker 2: It's that easy.
- 11:06Speaker 10: Labour is trying to say to the Australian people that
- 11:08Speaker 10: they can build a network that is unreliable, intermittent and
- 11:12Speaker 10: then have to build another network that's one hundred percent reliable.
- 11:14Speaker 10: Put the two together and somehow that's cheaper than just.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Building the most reliable one.
- 11:18Speaker 10: Well, I don't think the Australian people will be fooled.
- 11:20Speaker 10: Mister WORSTERMT has belled the cat.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the Australian public are fooled at all.
- 11:26Speaker 2: They get reminded every time they get their power bill.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Speaking of the government's green energy agenda, reports in The
- 11:32Speaker 2: Australian Today that Queensland is on track to miss its
- 11:36Speaker 2: legislated renewable and emissions reduction targets because two of their
- 11:41Speaker 2: pumped hydro projects which they're relying upon, are behind schedule.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Well why are they behind schedule, you ask, Well, they
- 11:49Speaker 2: yet to secure environmental approvals, ironically, and they're facing multi
- 11:54Speaker 2: billion dollar cost blowouts. Keith Andrew Bolt has been right
- 11:58Speaker 2: across this issue to mean the government's green dream is
- 12:01Speaker 2: now completely broken, is it not? And I might add,
- 12:05Speaker 2: isn't it ironic that the argument against nuclear is it
- 12:07Speaker 2: takes too long and it costs too much. And yet
- 12:11Speaker 2: here we are with these renewal projects behind schedule and
- 12:15Speaker 2: blowing out in costs. That they will never be delivered.
- 12:20Speaker 10: I look at what's been committed to in Queensland and
- 12:23Speaker 10: it's ludicrous. And you don't have a look at the
- 12:25Speaker 10: local daan that I've got here Paradise. Damn biggest infrastructure
- 12:28Speaker 10: fire in our country's history.
- 12:30Speaker 4: And yet it'll it's just not going to be repaired.
- 12:34Speaker 10: They want to apply all the current rules, replace that
- 12:37Speaker 10: damn wall with one which is about forty or fifty
- 12:40Speaker 10: meters in front of the existing one.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Have it been the same size, and.
- 12:43Speaker 10: Yet it's got to go through every single approval again,
- 12:46Speaker 10: that is something that should be fast tracked. There is
- 12:49Speaker 10: considerable safety risk with it, and yet we don't see
- 12:52Speaker 10: anyone wants to do that.
- 12:53Speaker 2: That they fast tracked to knock.
- 12:54Speaker 10: That wall down, we should fast track to put it back.
- 12:57Speaker 10: It's the same footprint and the idea that they'll build
- 13:00Speaker 10: pump hydra all over this country and get environmental and
- 13:03Speaker 10: heritage approvals, it's ludicrous.
- 13:05Speaker 11: It will never be done.
- 13:06Speaker 10: Nuclear small footprint and it works.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Michael Lay, I want to ask you about the latest
- 13:14Speaker 2: warning from the IMF that Australia runs the risk of
- 13:17Speaker 2: high inflation continuing on into twenty twenty five. In fact,
- 13:22Speaker 2: our inflation is on track to exceed all advanced economies
- 13:25Speaker 2: except Slovakia. So I guess that's a feather in the
- 13:28Speaker 2: government's cap. We're doing better than Slovakia. That's fantastic news.
- 13:32Speaker 2: High inflation means, of course interest rates won't be cut
- 13:35Speaker 2: anytime soon, something we are seeing happen in other countries.
- 13:39Speaker 2: How much blame do Anthony Albanesian Jim Chalmers bear for this?
- 13:44Speaker 2: Surely their excuse that, well, this is a worldwide global issue.
- 13:48Speaker 2: It doesn't cut the mustard.
- 13:49Speaker 1: Anymore, Absolutely not.
- 13:51Speaker 9: It doesn't cut the mustard at all, because this was
- 13:53Speaker 9: designed this way. Remember, Australia is an outlier. Every other
- 13:58Speaker 9: country went hard on inflation, and in fact their real
- 14:02Speaker 9: interest rates are still in many cases higher than Australia's.
- 14:05Speaker 9: We chose and the Treasurer was indolved in this to
- 14:09Speaker 9: have a pathway that was mindful of unemployment. And you
- 14:13Speaker 9: know that's a laudable thing to do, but it does
- 14:16Speaker 9: mean that we're going to get a death by a
- 14:18Speaker 9: thousand cuts. The IMF forecast is not really the important one.
- 14:22Speaker 9: The important ones the RBA's forecast. They're not forecasting returning
- 14:26Speaker 9: the ban till the end of twenty five. Those last
- 14:29Speaker 9: unemployment figures, you know, have changed everybody's outlook in terms
- 14:35Speaker 9: of when we're likely to get an interest rate cut.
- 14:37Speaker 9: And this is all by design, you know. The government
- 14:40Speaker 9: owns this.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't argue with that. They absolutely own it,
- 14:47Speaker 2: and they'll own it at the next ballot box, Keith.
- 14:51Speaker 2: I spoke yesterday with your fellow Senator Matt Canavan about
- 14:54Speaker 2: how disappointing it was to see King Charles way in
- 14:57Speaker 2: on the climate change debate. He should just stay away
- 15:00Speaker 2: from domestic policy issues. King Charles said we should be
- 15:03Speaker 2: relying on wind and soul of it failed to mention
- 15:06Speaker 2: some of our other key resources like gas, not to
- 15:09Speaker 2: mention nuclear. The King left Australia today to preside over
- 15:13Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting in Samoa, where climate change,
- 15:17Speaker 2: no doubt, will be top of the agenda. And we
- 15:20Speaker 2: all know how this is going to go right. Pacific
- 15:22Speaker 2: Island nations will demand Australia reduce fossil fuel use and
- 15:26Speaker 2: pay money for the damage we've done to the weather.
- 15:32Speaker 10: Well, I think that's a pretty fair summary. I mean,
- 15:34Speaker 10: King Charles is entitled to his view as I'm entitled
- 15:36Speaker 10: to mine. And employees. He's not designing Australia's networks for
- 15:39Speaker 10: electricity generation and distribution.
- 15:42Speaker 2: But there's some fundamentals here.
- 15:43Speaker 10: We have thirty percent of the world's geranium supplies, let's
- 15:46Speaker 10: use them. We produce over applose to one hundred billion
- 15:50Speaker 10: dollars worth of coal. Experts a here that props up
- 15:52Speaker 10: our economy and helps to build hospitals and roads and
- 15:54Speaker 10: schools and employed three hundred thousand people. And that's great
- 15:57Speaker 10: and we should keep doing that.
- 16:00Speaker 11: That.
- 16:00Speaker 10: The monarch will always have a view, and I'm a monarchist,
- 16:02Speaker 10: I'm a supporter, but the route is we've.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Got to act in Australia's interest.
- 16:06Speaker 10: Now, the Pacific will continue to do what they've always done.
- 16:08Speaker 10: That there will be support for them, clearly. But the
- 16:11Speaker 10: idea that we should have been an Australia's resources sector
- 16:13Speaker 10: and the more than one million Australians who work in it.
- 16:16Speaker 2: That is fraught with danger.
- 16:17Speaker 10: It'll be the wrong decision and I'll be interested to
- 16:19Speaker 10: see how federal labor wanders through this one.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Keith Pitt, Michael Costa, appreciate your time tonight. Well, for
- 16:28Speaker 2: the past couple of nights I've talked about how I
- 16:30Speaker 2: wish we could get back to the old Australia, you know,
- 16:33Speaker 2: a simpler time when people could afford to buy a
- 16:36Speaker 2: house and if not buy a house and at least
- 16:37Speaker 2: rent a place to live, and you know, maybe pay
- 16:40Speaker 2: their electricity bills. But that dream seems a long long
- 16:44Speaker 2: way away. The Business Council of Australia this week pushed
- 16:47Speaker 2: for the government to dump stamp duty as a way
- 16:50Speaker 2: to help more people get into the property market. Housing
- 16:53Speaker 2: Mister clar O'Neil surprisingly agreed, saying stamp duty was a
- 16:56Speaker 2: bad tax. Imagine that a labor politicians saying attacks was bad.
- 17:01Speaker 2: But that's about the extent of the government's housing policy.
- 17:05Speaker 2: We've got Anthi Albanesi and Jim Chalmers at war over
- 17:08Speaker 2: whether to make changes to negative gearing. Meanwhile, they continue
- 17:11Speaker 2: to let record numbers of immigrants into the country with
- 17:14Speaker 2: no plan as to how to house them. Joining me
- 17:18Speaker 2: is Shadow Housing Minister Michael Suker. Michael, thanks for your
- 17:21Speaker 2: time tonight. I want to ask you about the coalition's
- 17:24Speaker 2: five billion dollar housing infrastructure program that you've just announced.
- 17:28Speaker 2: But before we get to that, I want to ask you,
- 17:31Speaker 2: as a Lebanese Australian. The war in the Middle East
- 17:34Speaker 2: is really reaching a boiling point. The IDF has begun
- 17:37Speaker 2: targeting infrastructure related to the financial arm of Hezblah, with
- 17:42Speaker 2: a military spokesperson warning Lebanese residents to steer clear of
- 17:46Speaker 2: those areas ahead of the assault. This is a big escalation.
- 17:50Speaker 2: I know you've got family in Lebanon. What are you
- 17:53Speaker 2: hearing and the people that you know they're how are
- 17:55Speaker 2: they reacting to all of this?
- 17:58Speaker 12: Well, obviously, James, it's a hugely troubling time for everybody
- 18:02Speaker 12: in Lebanon. But the truth here is is that hes
- 18:05Speaker 12: Bala is a terrorist organization, is not fighting on behalf
- 18:09Speaker 12: of Lebanon. It's a terrorist organization that takes its orders
- 18:14Speaker 12: from Tehran. It's a proxy of the Iranian regime. And
- 18:19Speaker 12: I suspect most Lebanese are celebrating its downfall and hoping
- 18:24Speaker 12: that the IDF can take hes.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Bala out once and for all.
- 18:27Speaker 12: That hes Bala A as a terrorist organization is one
- 18:32Speaker 12: that no one is going to in Lebanon. Is going
- 18:34Speaker 12: to bemoan their downfall, but it of course causes huge
- 18:38Speaker 12: issues for Lebanese and sadly, has Bala's been bringing this
- 18:43Speaker 12: sort of trouble onto Lebanon for a very long time,
- 18:46Speaker 12: and so my view is that hopefully the IDF can
- 18:51Speaker 12: can deal with has Bala quickly.
- 18:53Speaker 1: They've obviously been doing a very effective job thus far.
- 18:56Speaker 12: Hopefully they can finish it off and Lebanon can get
- 19:00Speaker 12: back to being one of the most wonderful countries in
- 19:04Speaker 12: the Middle East without Iran having their finger in the
- 19:07Speaker 12: piso to speak.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Yeah, very true. Well, certainly our thoughts for family members
- 19:13Speaker 2: you've got there, We trust they are kept safe. To
- 19:16Speaker 2: the housing crisis, Anti Albanesi certainly doesn't seem to have
- 19:20Speaker 2: much of a plan, but you do. Over the weekend
- 19:23Speaker 2: you announced a five billion dollar infrastructure fund to unlock
- 19:27Speaker 2: up to half a million new homes. Tell us how
- 19:30Speaker 2: the coalition of proposing that would work?
- 19:33Speaker 1: Well, thanks James.
- 19:34Speaker 12: Yes, we announced the Housing Infrastructure program to unlock five
- 19:37Speaker 12: hundred thousand homes because over the last couple of years,
- 19:40Speaker 12: in speaking to hundreds of councils and developers, it's very
- 19:45Speaker 12: clear that one of the major things holding back housing
- 19:48Speaker 12: development in this country is a lack of funding of
- 19:51Speaker 12: the critical infrastructure that you need to get housing built.
- 19:55Speaker 12: And we're not talking about particularly exciting infrastructure. We're talking
- 19:59Speaker 12: about things as ask as water and sewage and telecommunications
- 20:02Speaker 12: and access roads, but things at the moment that there's
- 20:05Speaker 12: no money to fund.
- 20:06Speaker 1: And if you can't.
- 20:07Speaker 12: Get the sewage and water in and the talent, communications
- 20:11Speaker 12: and the roads, then you don't get any housing projects approved.
- 20:15Speaker 12: So we've identified hundreds of these projects around the country
- 20:18Speaker 12: where with a relatively modest Commonwealth investment you can unlock
- 20:22Speaker 12: new housing developments. And as I said, five hundred thousand
- 20:26Speaker 12: homes will be unlocked by our Housing Infrastructure program with
- 20:30Speaker 12: an investment of five billion dollars. These are things that
- 20:33Speaker 12: are not being done at the moment, and sadly, as
- 20:35Speaker 12: you say, James, we're building fewer homes than we've built
- 20:38Speaker 12: for a very long time. We've got housing approvals at
- 20:41Speaker 12: ten year layers, we've got first home buyers down, we've
- 20:44Speaker 12: got rentsap and meanwhile we've got Anthony Albanezi running a
- 20:49Speaker 12: massive migration program. So the problem's big, the problems getting worse,
- 20:53Speaker 12: and that's why we felt we needed to step up
- 20:56Speaker 12: with the Housing Infrastructure program.
- 20:58Speaker 1: You know, a really huge to unlock five hundred thousand homes.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Well, I mean you certainly write about the immigration issue.
- 21:07Speaker 2: Letting thousands of people into the country with no means
- 21:10Speaker 2: to house them was always going to end in tears.
- 21:14Speaker 2: Your announcement sounds great, but what do you do with
- 21:17Speaker 2: the red tape? How do you get local governments to
- 21:19Speaker 2: agree to this and get things moving faster.
- 21:24Speaker 12: Well, the beauty here is, James, we've identified shove already projects.
- 21:28Speaker 12: So the truth is there are tons of projects out
- 21:31Speaker 12: there that are sitting on a bureaucrat's desk or a
- 21:33Speaker 12: state government sesk, awaiting approval. The projects we're talking about
- 21:37Speaker 12: a typically projects that there are no other impediments in
- 21:41Speaker 12: the way. There are no sort of bureaucratic impediments. The
- 21:46Speaker 12: only impediment is the infrastructure, and we have that infrastructure funded,
- 21:52Speaker 12: you can actually get going. Of course, more systemic work
- 21:55Speaker 12: should be done by the states, predominantly to cut red
- 21:59Speaker 12: tar and get the bureaucrats.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Out of the way.
- 22:01Speaker 12: But why this fund, why this program is so powerful,
- 22:07Speaker 12: is we're not relying on any bureaucrats ticking off on it.
- 22:10Speaker 1: These are shove already projects.
- 22:11Speaker 12: And a huge caveat of this program, the housing infrastructure
- 22:15Speaker 12: program is use it or lose it. If the project
- 22:19Speaker 12: doesn't get started in twelve months, you lose the funding
- 22:21Speaker 12: and that money will go somewhere else.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Okay, well that's good motivation. Just before I let you go,
- 22:27Speaker 2: one other thing that just really annoys me is this
- 22:30Speaker 2: issue not of red tape, but of green tape. You've
- 22:33Speaker 2: got Victorian Premier just into Alan making a big deal
- 22:36Speaker 2: about getting rid of gas, the new homes, labor and
- 22:39Speaker 2: the greens to me, seem more concerned about reducing emissions
- 22:41Speaker 2: than increasing productivity. Builders are having to go out of
- 22:44Speaker 2: their way to be green and all that does is
- 22:47Speaker 2: increase costs. How do you combat that issue?
- 22:51Speaker 5: Well?
- 22:52Speaker 12: As part of our announcement on the weekend, in addition
- 22:54Speaker 12: to the Housing Infrastructure program, we announceday ten year freese
- 22:58Speaker 12: to the National Construction Code. The National Construction Code is
- 23:02Speaker 12: one of the means by which more and more green
- 23:06Speaker 12: red tape is being put on housing projects.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Estimates are that the.
- 23:11Speaker 12: Latest rate latest changes to the NCC increased housing by
- 23:16Speaker 12: about thirty thousand dollars a home, or up to sixty
- 23:19Speaker 12: thousand dollars in some cases.
- 23:21Speaker 1: So we've said freezing the NCC no more.
- 23:23Speaker 12: Changes for ten years to ensure that we don't keep
- 23:27Speaker 12: piling more of this green tape onto houses, because in
- 23:31Speaker 12: the end, it's not the developers who wear these costs.
- 23:34Speaker 12: These costs are ultimately borne by the people who buy
- 23:38Speaker 12: the homes at the end, and a thirty or sixty
- 23:41Speaker 12: thousand dollars increase in a home could be the difference
- 23:43Speaker 12: between a first time buyer being able to afford the
- 23:46Speaker 12: home or not being able.
- 23:47Speaker 2: To Michael Suke, thanks for your time tonight. Thanks so much, James,
- 23:53Speaker 2: Well after the break. Two weeks to go until the
- 23:56Speaker 2: US election, Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer will
- 24:00Speaker 2: join me in just a moment to the US now,
- 24:06Speaker 2: and with only two weeks to go until voting day,
- 24:08Speaker 2: the race is tight. Latest polls show Kamala Harris has
- 24:12Speaker 2: a marginal lead over Donald Trump. But this is politics
- 24:16Speaker 2: and a lot can change in two weeks. Joining me
- 24:18Speaker 2: is former White House spokesperson Sean Spicer. Sean, thanks for
- 24:23Speaker 2: joining me. Early voting has already begun in the US,
- 24:25Speaker 2: with reports seventeen million ballots already cast. From what analysiss
- 24:31Speaker 2: are saying, early voting tends to favor the Democrats, doesn't it,
- 24:34Speaker 2: Because Trump typically says early voting is a stupid idea.
- 24:38Speaker 2: So Republicans tend to wait until polling day, Is that right.
- 24:42Speaker 8: Well, James, Yes, traditionally that's been the case. Republicans tend
- 24:46Speaker 8: to want to vote on election day. But what's going
- 24:48Speaker 8: on that's so fascinating. The first day of early voting
- 24:51Speaker 8: in Georgia, for example, I saw the number of the
- 24:53Speaker 8: people that voted, and when, oh God.
- 24:55Speaker 4: Were screwed.
- 24:56Speaker 8: When you start to break down the data, though not
- 24:59Speaker 8: just in Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, in those key battleground states, James,
- 25:04Speaker 8: it's Republicans who are either out doing and closing the gap.
- 25:08Speaker 8: So what people have to understand is, yes, Democrats do better,
- 25:11Speaker 8: but they normally run up a massive, massive vote advantage
- 25:15Speaker 8: in early vote and then Republicans try to catch up
- 25:17Speaker 8: on election day. What we're seeing right now, James, throughout
- 25:21Speaker 8: the battleground states where the early voting has begun, Republicans
- 25:26Speaker 8: are doing better than they ever have in early votes.
- 25:28Speaker 4: And this is sending chills through Democrats.
- 25:32Speaker 2: I found it interesting, and this would send some chills
- 25:34Speaker 2: through Democrats as well. I imagine that the La Times has,
- 25:38Speaker 2: for the first time in fifteen years, refused to endorse
- 25:41Speaker 2: either presidential candidate. I would have thought that's a big blow,
- 25:45Speaker 2: particularly for Kamala Harris.
- 25:47Speaker 4: Yeah, start to put the list together, James.
- 25:49Speaker 8: Right, it's the Muslim American groups in Detroit.
- 25:53Speaker 4: There's two of them. They've refused to endorse.
- 25:55Speaker 8: The International Association of Firefighters, they refuse to endorse, the Teamsters,
- 26:00Speaker 8: they refuse to endorse.
- 26:01Speaker 4: But what do all these groups, including the LA Times
- 26:03Speaker 4: have in common.
- 26:04Speaker 8: These are normal Democrat constituencies that they count on to
- 26:08Speaker 8: get their base fired up, get people turned out, to
- 26:11Speaker 8: get people excited.
- 26:12Speaker 4: And they're saying no to Kamala Harris. No Republican thinks
- 26:16Speaker 4: that we're going to get the support of these organizations.
- 26:18Speaker 4: So for Kamala Harris not to.
- 26:20Speaker 8: Get it is a big, big deal. She is having
- 26:23Speaker 8: a major problem. Look, James, I'll be honest.
- 26:26Speaker 4: Coming out of that.
- 26:26Speaker 8: First debate, I was a little worried. Kamalas Harris was
- 26:30Speaker 8: having a sugar high. She had the wind at her back.
- 26:32Speaker 8: The media is all in for her. But what Donald
- 26:35Speaker 8: Trump has done in the last ten days to seven
- 26:38Speaker 8: days is really turn this thing around.
- 26:41Speaker 4: We are going into the election with the wind that
- 26:43Speaker 4: are back.
- 26:44Speaker 8: Now things have really changed as we head into these
- 26:47Speaker 8: final thirteen days, I'd much rather be us than them.
- 26:52Speaker 2: You know the Shawan they talk about the October surprise.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Maybe the October surprise is that Kamala Harris is a
- 26:57Speaker 2: much worse candidate than anybody actually thought. Another one of
- 27:02Speaker 2: Kamala's problems seems to be men, a demographic Trump has
- 27:06Speaker 2: really capitalized on. Is it fair to say there's a
- 27:09Speaker 2: lot of frustration among men in the US who feel
- 27:12Speaker 2: like the Democrats are at best dismissive and maybe even
- 27:15Speaker 2: problematic for them.
- 27:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:18Speaker 8: Well, look, when your vice presidential candidate thinks he's trying
- 27:23Speaker 8: to dress up as a man for Halloween by putting
- 27:25Speaker 8: on a flannel shirt and a camo hat, men get offended.
- 27:29Speaker 8: I mean, look, it's the most unauthentic ticket in modern
- 27:33Speaker 8: American history. These people are faking who they are. Tim
- 27:37Speaker 8: Waltz looks like he walked out of a Walmart when
- 27:39Speaker 8: he went to try to go do that stunt the
- 27:41Speaker 8: other day and had the price tag still hanging off
- 27:43Speaker 8: the clothing, like he couldn't figure out how to get
- 27:45Speaker 8: the gunloaded. He was trying to show that he was
- 27:47Speaker 8: a tough guy, he could go out there and go hunting.
- 27:49Speaker 4: It's all fake, and I think men see right through it.
- 27:52Speaker 8: There's a reason that the gap exists, and I would
- 27:56Speaker 8: put my finger on it being authenticity. They both lack it,
- 27:59Speaker 8: men particular see through it. We're focused on policy. We
- 28:02Speaker 8: want this country to be safer and more prosperous, something
- 28:05Speaker 8: that they're severely lacking in any policies.
- 28:08Speaker 2: For Joe, Biden seems to be missing on the campaign trail.
- 28:12Speaker 2: He seems to be missing as president. Actually, when he
- 28:15Speaker 2: announced he wouldn't run in this election, he gave Kamala
- 28:18Speaker 2: a glowing endorsement, but since then he's only been to
- 28:21Speaker 2: one or two official campaign events with Kamala. He's done
- 28:24Speaker 2: a couple by himself. I think he's doing one with
- 28:26Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders either today or tomorrow. But with two weeks
- 28:29Speaker 2: to go, Kamala and Joe are barely seen together. So
- 28:33Speaker 2: who's avoiding who?
- 28:36Speaker 4: It's a great question. I think she's avoiding him.
- 28:38Speaker 8: There's no question that the people in Biden world are
- 28:42Speaker 8: very upset about the level of disrespect that Kamala Harrison
- 28:45Speaker 8: her team has showed.
- 28:47Speaker 4: It's not just Joe Biden.
- 28:48Speaker 8: You rarely hear about Jill Biden, who would seemingly want
- 28:52Speaker 8: the first female the president's right hand person to be successful.
- 28:58Speaker 4: They're not putting in the effort.
- 29:00Speaker 8: I can't believe they're not using him more in Pennsylvania,
- 29:02Speaker 8: it's a battleground state. I had somebody on my podcast
- 29:05Speaker 8: today that said, you know, look, we used to view
- 29:07Speaker 8: Joe Biden as a third senator. He's barely been seen
- 29:10Speaker 8: since he got pushed out. Why isn't he being used
- 29:12Speaker 8: in Pennsylvania. I'm not in the business of giving Democrats
- 29:16Speaker 8: any hints, but for goodness sake, like I get not
- 29:19Speaker 8: bring him into every battleground state, but in Pennsylvania they
- 29:22Speaker 8: view him as a native son.
- 29:24Speaker 4: For goodness sake, use the guy.
- 29:26Speaker 8: But it's an embarrassment and so disrespectful what they have
- 29:29Speaker 8: done and how they have treated Biden. And my guess
- 29:32Speaker 8: is that when this election is over, Joe Biden's going
- 29:35Speaker 8: to say, you know what, you pushed me aside and
- 29:37Speaker 8: look what happened. But I can't believe the way that
- 29:42Speaker 8: the Harris campaign has treated that guy.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Absolutely, Now, Sean, I've got to say, I wasn't expecting
- 29:49Speaker 2: the contest to decide the leader of the free world
- 29:52Speaker 2: to come down to who could make the best McDonald's employee.
- 29:55Speaker 2: And yet that's where we are. Donald Trump decided to
- 29:59Speaker 2: work the fire machas in the swing state of Pennsylvania.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Take a look, and I could do this.
- 30:04Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind this show like this. I think I'm
- 30:08Speaker 1: gonna come back and do it again.
- 30:09Speaker 12: Thank you, thank you, mister president.
- 30:17Speaker 4: Many but many people like us, I mean.
- 30:22Speaker 2: MSNBC as you would imagine how to meltdown over Trump
- 30:26Speaker 2: working at McDonald's. Have a look at this.
- 30:29Speaker 4: There's no logic to it.
- 30:30Speaker 1: It's a stunt.
- 30:32Speaker 13: He has not put forth an economic agenda. He, as
- 30:36Speaker 13: you know is, appears to be not well and he's
- 30:40Speaker 13: engaged in some really bizarre types of activities during this campaign.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Now, this campaign line from the Harris camp, trump is
- 30:48Speaker 2: mentally unwell. Kamala Harris had another cheap shot targeting Trump's age.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Here's her latest attack.
- 30:56Speaker 14: A Trump advisor told producers that Trump was exhausted and
- 31:00Speaker 14: refusing interviews.
- 31:01Speaker 2: He would be the oldest president ever inaugurated. If he
- 31:05Speaker 2: wins in November.
- 31:06Speaker 4: People not agree to a second presidential debate.
- 31:09Speaker 7: The former president was swaying and asked to play songs
- 31:12Speaker 7: for about forty minutes.
- 31:14Speaker 9: Donald Trump's public appearances have deteriorated.
- 31:17Speaker 4: The stomach is speaking many.
- 31:19Speaker 7: As erasis, just like putting a million rambos to put
- 31:23Speaker 7: Al Sylvester still owners.
- 31:24Speaker 15: My friend, there is no way that this man who
- 31:26Speaker 15: can't make it through an entire speech, who keeps canceling things,
- 31:30Speaker 15: is going to be the person that does four more years.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Sure.
- 31:34Speaker 2: No, I just cannot believe that the Democrats, after propping
- 31:37Speaker 2: up Joe Biden for all those years and now taking
- 31:40Speaker 2: a shot at Donald Trump's mental acuity and age. I mean,
- 31:44Speaker 2: they've got a hide.
- 31:46Speaker 4: I'm with you, James.
- 31:47Speaker 8: I mean it's kind of rich the way that they
- 31:49Speaker 8: didn't have a problem with, you know, goo, with the
- 31:53Speaker 8: mental acuity of anybody or their stamina several months ago.
- 31:58Speaker 8: In fact, they denied it, and now they're taking pot
- 32:00Speaker 8: shots at Donald Trump.
- 32:01Speaker 4: Who look, I will say.
- 32:02Speaker 8: The funny thing is I always tell people that there
- 32:04Speaker 8: are narratives in politics.
- 32:06Speaker 4: Right, somebody is a really good fundraiser, they hard work
- 32:08Speaker 4: or whatever.
- 32:09Speaker 8: No one accuses Donald Trump of not being active enough.
- 32:12Speaker 8: In fact, I would argue a lot of people say
- 32:14Speaker 8: I wish you would tone it down, like I work
- 32:16Speaker 8: for the guy. You can't keep up with him, and
- 32:18Speaker 8: I'm a third of his age, right, I mean, this
- 32:20Speaker 8: is a guy who's up first thing in the morning,
- 32:22Speaker 8: well past midnight every night. Like the idea that anyone
- 32:26Speaker 8: thinks he has a stamina problem is laughable.
- 32:28Speaker 4: So they're trying to cut against a well, well laid
- 32:31Speaker 4: narrative and that's the problem.
- 32:33Speaker 8: And I find it rich coming from Harris, who was
- 32:35Speaker 8: the primary cover upper of what happened with Bidney.
- 32:38Speaker 2: They a very good point. Well, Seawan Spice, I always
- 32:40Speaker 2: enjoy catching up with you the next two weeks. I'm
- 32:42Speaker 2: going to be fascinating. Thanks for joining me.
- 32:44Speaker 4: Tonight, you bet, James, Thanks sir, Well, don't go.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Anywhere after the break. Channel nine in more turmoil and
- 32:52Speaker 2: the Media Union goes after Peter Dutton for being too
- 32:55Speaker 2: aggressive to ABC journalists. That's up in a moment, welcome back. Well,
- 33:04Speaker 2: there's more turmoil at Channel nine following its review into
- 33:07Speaker 2: the culture at the company. Not only has the company's
- 33:10Speaker 2: television News and Current Affairs boss Fiona Dea told staff
- 33:13Speaker 2: in an after hours email that she knows employees are hurting,
- 33:17Speaker 2: but she also is apparently furious at having to clean
- 33:20Speaker 2: up the mess left by her predecessor Darren Wick. Joining
- 33:23Speaker 2: me at the desk is the Australians media writer Sophie Ellsworth. Sophie,
- 33:27Speaker 2: thanks for joining me talk to me about this after
- 33:30Speaker 2: hours email from the news director Fiona Dea. What else
- 33:33Speaker 2: did it say?
- 33:35Speaker 15: So, James, For days I've been contacting Fiona Deer, the
- 33:38Speaker 15: news boss at nine, to ask her what is she
- 33:41Speaker 15: doing in the aftermath of the cultural review and has
- 33:45Speaker 15: she dressed staff? Now she works in the news business
- 33:48Speaker 15: and still to date I'm yet to hear boo from her,
- 33:51Speaker 15: but she basically said to staff, look, I understand that
- 33:54Speaker 15: you're hurting. You've all been very professional in this situation
- 33:59Speaker 15: and you know she's offering, you know, to listen to
- 34:01Speaker 15: anyone if they have grievances. But today she's yet to
- 34:05Speaker 15: address the entire News TV division and there's a lot
- 34:09Speaker 15: of people in there. James incredibly angry because Fiona Wick
- 34:14Speaker 15: took o. Fiona Deer took over from Darren Wick. They
- 34:17Speaker 15: were working very close together until he left in March.
- 34:22Speaker 2: So one of the concerns or complaints has been that
- 34:25Speaker 2: management have not followed up on things, They've not listened.
- 34:28Speaker 2: So does this go to that narrative that she's now
- 34:32Speaker 2: in charge of the news division and is not communicating herself.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Now you've got this late night.
- 34:36Speaker 15: Missive, absolutely, James. So she's sent out this message at
- 34:41Speaker 15: eight point thirty on Monday night, which is quite late
- 34:43Speaker 15: to be addressing your entire staff. But then she has
- 34:47Speaker 15: come out subsequently today in our Women in Media report
- 34:51Speaker 15: basically to say that she was angry that she had
- 34:54Speaker 15: to and I'm quoting clean up someone else's shit now
- 34:58Speaker 15: excuse the language there, but she's vented her anger at
- 35:02Speaker 15: the mess that she had to take over from Darren Wick,
- 35:06Speaker 15: and she said, look, I got this really important appointment.
- 35:09Speaker 15: I couldn't enjoy it because I was mopping up the mess.
- 35:12Speaker 15: Now there's more coming out in the Australian tonight. I
- 35:15Speaker 15: suggest people read that there's a lot of angry stuff
- 35:18Speaker 15: inside and outside nine that are going Hang on a minute,
- 35:21Speaker 15: Fi Owner, you were working there alongside Darren Wick for
- 35:25Speaker 15: a long time.
- 35:26Speaker 4: Did you know what was going on?
- 35:28Speaker 15: And there's a lot of complaints flying around about behavior
- 35:31Speaker 15: from managers in there. This is far from over well.
- 35:34Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you how long is it going
- 35:36Speaker 2: to be befour Channel nine are through this I mean
- 35:39Speaker 2: there was a survey that said, what fifty seven percent
- 35:41Speaker 2: of staff claimed they'd been bullied, harassed, discriminated against. This
- 35:45Speaker 2: is not the sort of thing that can be cleaned up,
- 35:47Speaker 2: you know, in a couple of days. But I mean,
- 35:49Speaker 2: it's been going on for months. Is there an end
- 35:52Speaker 2: to this? What are they going to do to finally
- 35:54Speaker 2: move beyond it?
- 35:55Speaker 15: Well, I believe that they have a lot of managers
- 35:58Speaker 15: in there that were there during wik regime, and there's
- 36:01Speaker 15: a lot of people of saying it's the same people.
- 36:04Speaker 15: It's the same people, and we're still carrying on business
- 36:07Speaker 15: as usual. So I expect before the year's end we
- 36:10Speaker 15: will see more managers in nine showing the door.
- 36:14Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to Peter Dutton, because the
- 36:18Speaker 2: Media Union has called Peter Dutton's behavior towards two ABC
- 36:22Speaker 2: reporters unnecessarily aggressive. First, we had this exchange.
- 36:28Speaker 4: Nation even though men, where are you from?
- 36:33Speaker 11: I'm sorry which organization ABC?
- 36:38Speaker 1: I had presumed up.
- 36:39Speaker 11: Until this point at least that the ABC supported the
- 36:42Speaker 11: government's laws, and the government has passed laws supported on
- 36:46Speaker 11: a bipartisan basis, but not by the ABC. It seems
- 36:49Speaker 11: in relation to the prescribing or the listing of a
- 36:51Speaker 11: terrorist organization.
- 36:53Speaker 2: And last week we had this exchange with another ABC reporter.
- 36:58Speaker 13: Last majority of the public in colleagues.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Support well, how do you know that they don't.
- 37:03Speaker 2: Well, I have spoken to a number of them.
- 37:05Speaker 1: I haven't seen you spoken to a single member.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Of the public. Shame.
- 37:08Speaker 11: Look, I understand the position of the ABC. The ABC
- 37:10Speaker 11: has an ideological position against that's an issue for you.
- 37:13Speaker 11: I don't really care. I'm not interested in the politics
- 37:17Speaker 11: at the ABC. You could all be advocates and play
- 37:20Speaker 11: your games.
- 37:23Speaker 2: Now. I don't know about you at home, but I
- 37:24Speaker 2: don't think Peter Dutton was aggressive. I think he was
- 37:26Speaker 2: very direct with two ABC reporters who clearly had agendas.
- 37:30Speaker 2: But Sophy, what's the ABC saying about this?
- 37:33Speaker 15: Well, the ABC is saying they stand by their reporters
- 37:37Speaker 15: and that they are journalists. They're asking questions on behalf
- 37:40Speaker 15: of the public. But I think the problem here is
- 37:43Speaker 15: we often see the ABC leaning to the left, James,
- 37:46Speaker 15: and I think a lot of people would agree with that,
- 37:49Speaker 15: and they don't attack politicians on the left side as
- 37:52Speaker 15: the same on the right side. Now, if you recall
- 37:55Speaker 15: last year, Attorney General Mark dreyfirst had to go at
- 37:58Speaker 15: our colleague Sky News Order Lvia Kasley, let's have a
- 38:01Speaker 15: look at that.
- 38:04Speaker 14: I an apology to those in the community that have
- 38:06Speaker 14: been subjected to misteem to my son these maditions.
- 38:10Speaker 16: I want to suggest to you that that question is
- 38:13Speaker 16: an absurd question. You are asking a cabinet minister, three
- 38:17Speaker 16: ministers of the Crown, to apologize for upholding the law
- 38:21Speaker 16: of Australia, for acting in accordance with the law of Australia,
- 38:26Speaker 16: for following the instructions of the High Court of Australia.
- 38:30Speaker 16: I will not be apologizing for upholding the law. I
- 38:35Speaker 16: will not be apologizing for pursuing the rule of law,
- 38:38Speaker 16: and I will not be apologizing for acting do not interrupt.
- 38:42Speaker 16: I will not be apologizing.
- 38:44Speaker 4: For acting Australia.
- 38:46Speaker 16: I will not be apologizing for acting in accordance with
- 38:51Speaker 16: a High Court decision. Your question is an absurd one.
- 38:57Speaker 2: So James, there you go.
- 38:58Speaker 15: There You've got Attorney General Mark Drefus pointing the finger
- 39:02Speaker 15: quite aggressively at Olivia Caysley. Now, I don't recall the
- 39:05Speaker 15: me Double A coming out pretty disgusted at this. And
- 39:09Speaker 15: this is where the Double A let themselves down because
- 39:12Speaker 15: they take a position that suits their politics. So if
- 39:15Speaker 15: we're going to treat all journalists the same, many would
- 39:18Speaker 15: argue the treatment there by a labor politician perhaps isn't good.
- 39:22Speaker 15: But what about the treatment on Peter Dutton's side, and
- 39:25Speaker 15: are they like for like you be the judge.
- 39:28Speaker 2: Well, I think we all just saw with our own
- 39:29Speaker 2: eyes it was pretty clear who was aggressive in that exchange.
- 39:32Speaker 2: Sophie Ellsworth, appreciate your time tonight. We'll stick around because
- 39:36Speaker 2: after the break we'll talk about why Australians are rejecting
- 39:38Speaker 2: the government's Misinformation Bill and the left sure do love
- 39:42Speaker 2: to self flagellate. More of that in just a moment. Well,
- 39:48Speaker 2: if you think Lydia Thorpe has any regrets over her
- 39:51Speaker 2: confrontation with King Charles earlier this week, think again. When
- 39:55Speaker 2: asked this afternoon about the King's genuine affection for Indigenous people,
- 39:58Speaker 2: which was evident during his visit, Thorpe had this to say.
- 40:04Speaker 17: Well, that's called smoothing the dying pillow. You know, we'll
- 40:08Speaker 17: just say some niceties niceties along the way while we
- 40:12Speaker 17: continue to commit genocide against first peoples in this country.
- 40:18Speaker 17: I'm sorry, Charlie, but You can't come here and think
- 40:22Speaker 17: that you can say a few nice words about our
- 40:25Speaker 17: people while you still have stolen goods. You are in
- 40:31Speaker 17: receipt of stolen goods, which makes you complicit in theft.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Charlie. And as for cause for her to resign, well,
- 40:43Speaker 2: have a listen.
- 40:45Speaker 4: If I get given up.
- 40:46Speaker 17: My job, I'm not resigning. I don't listen to the
- 40:48Speaker 17: noise of those who have chosen to assimilate into the
- 40:52Speaker 17: colonial system.
- 40:55Speaker 2: Well, for a woman who's chosen not to assimilate into
- 40:57Speaker 2: the colonial system, Leah Thorpe does seem to be doing
- 41:00Speaker 2: rather well. She's racking up thousands of dollars in taxpayer
- 41:03Speaker 2: funded interstate travel as well as benefiting from a membership
- 41:07Speaker 2: to the VIP Quantus chairman's lounge. Oh and that system
- 41:10Speaker 2: that she's not assimilated into also pays her a salary
- 41:13Speaker 2: of more than two hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year,
- 41:16Speaker 2: plus an extra twenty five thousand dollars because she chairs
- 41:19Speaker 2: a committee. So that's a quarter of a million taxpayer
- 41:22Speaker 2: dollars plus other privileges. Imagine if she had assimilated. Joining
- 41:27Speaker 2: me is Daniel Wilde, Deputy Executive Director, of the Institute
- 41:30Speaker 2: of Public Affairs and Skyne is contributor Evelyn Ray. Evelyn
- 41:34Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe isn't going to resign, but she loves the controversy.
- 41:38Speaker 2: This is what she does.
- 41:40Speaker 14: Oh absolutely, this is exactly what she does. And James,
- 41:44Speaker 14: it's because it's all that she can do, you know,
- 41:48Speaker 14: short of a good idea to make Australia a better
- 41:52Speaker 14: place for everybody, the only thing she can do to
- 41:55Speaker 14: maintain any form of relevance is to resort to these
- 41:59Speaker 14: charms stunts. I mean, look, it's a sham. She's not
- 42:03Speaker 14: a serious person, let alone politician. I think it was
- 42:07Speaker 14: not long ago that her father even came out and
- 42:09Speaker 14: admitted that she has English ancestry, and yet somehow, shocker,
- 42:14Speaker 14: she figured out a way to forgive and live with herself. So,
- 42:20Speaker 14: you know, I think it's about time she learned how
- 42:22Speaker 14: to do that with everybody else in this country.
- 42:27Speaker 2: Indeed, Daniel, what's the point of swearing allegiance to the
- 42:30Speaker 2: crown as Lydia Thorpe did if you then denounce the
- 42:34Speaker 2: crown to the King's face. If she won't resign, shouldn't
- 42:38Speaker 2: she be removed? Otherwise? The oath of allegiance is effectively
- 42:42Speaker 2: pointless and a bit of a joke, is it not.
- 42:46Speaker 6: Well exactly, James. I mean, there's seventy six senators across Australia,
- 42:50Speaker 6: twelve of whom are from Victoria, and Lydia Thorpe is
- 42:53Speaker 6: one of them. Yet she's the oppressed one. I'm not
- 42:55Speaker 6: too sure how that works. You know, as you say,
- 42:57Speaker 6: she's pulling in a quarter of a million dollar salary,
- 43:00Speaker 6: she's not doing too bad. But just like Evelyn said,
- 43:02Speaker 6: this is really her stock in trade, you know, provoking
- 43:06Speaker 6: and causing controversy to get a headline, and that's exactly
- 43:08Speaker 6: what she's gotten out of it. Let's not forget that
- 43:11Speaker 6: she's only in the Senate because she was elected as
- 43:13Speaker 6: a part of the Greens ticket. She then abandoned shit
- 43:16Speaker 6: because the Greens weren't to the left to her liking,
- 43:19Speaker 6: not far enough to the left, you know. So I
- 43:21Speaker 6: think this is going to drag on for many months
- 43:24Speaker 6: and we're going to see a lot more of this, unfortunately,
- 43:26Speaker 6: up until the next time she's up for election, James.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Daniel. Communications Minister Michelle Roland loves to tell us that
- 43:35Speaker 2: survey show eighty percent of Australians are concerned about so
- 43:39Speaker 2: called misinformation. What she doesn't mention is that doesn't necessarily
- 43:43Speaker 2: then mean they want the government to start censoring all
- 43:46Speaker 2: of us. In fact, a new poll from the IPA
- 43:49Speaker 2: show sixty five percent of Australians are concerned that the
- 43:53Speaker 2: government's proposed misinformation laws could be used for political purposes.
- 43:58Speaker 2: Now I guess that means Australians aren't stupid. But tell
- 44:01Speaker 2: us more about this poll, Daniel. What else does it reveal? Well, thanks, James.
- 44:06Speaker 6: Look what it reveals is that Australians don't support these
- 44:09Speaker 6: very bad laws, and they don't support them for three reasons.
- 44:12Speaker 2: The first is.
- 44:12Speaker 6: That they would be the biggest attack on freedom of
- 44:15Speaker 6: speech in Australia's peacetime history, because it would empower an
- 44:19Speaker 6: unelected bureaucracy to define the truth and then enforce that
- 44:22Speaker 6: truth on mainstream Australians. Secondly, it's an unfair two tiered
- 44:27Speaker 6: system because you've got professional news organizations, academia and others
- 44:32Speaker 6: in elite society that are actually exempt from the laws,
- 44:35Speaker 6: so it doesn't matter what they say.
- 44:36Speaker 2: There's no penalties.
- 44:38Speaker 6: But if a mainstream Australians someone listening to your program. Now,
- 44:41Speaker 6: were to say the exact same thing on their Facebook
- 44:44Speaker 6: or some other social media platform, they could be censored
- 44:47Speaker 6: under these laws. And third, it would be a sense
- 44:49Speaker 6: of first, ask questions later regime because the social media
- 44:53Speaker 6: giants will be hit with a fine of up to
- 44:55Speaker 6: five percent of their global revenue if they fail to
- 44:59Speaker 6: censor what's considered misinformation. But there's no cannavaling incentive to
- 45:04Speaker 6: encourage freedom of speech or debate on their platforms. So
- 45:08Speaker 6: this is a massive weaponization of these big tech companies
- 45:12Speaker 6: against mainstream Australians. And as you say, Australians aren't silly,
- 45:15Speaker 6: they know exactly what's going to happen, which is the
- 45:17Speaker 6: government is going to shut down debate and dissent in
- 45:20Speaker 6: this country.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Yeah, so eighty percent of Australians are concerned about misinformation,
- 45:27Speaker 2: but to almost seventy percent of them say, that doesn't
- 45:29Speaker 2: mean that we want the government interfering. Daniel, while we're
- 45:33Speaker 2: talking about IPA analysis, you've done some analysis on Australian
- 45:37Speaker 2: university students who are dropping out at record numbers. Just
- 45:41Speaker 2: sixty two percent of students are completing a degree within
- 45:45Speaker 2: six years, and of course taxpayers are footing these hex bills,
- 45:50Speaker 2: many of which will never be repaid. What's the issue, Well,
- 45:56Speaker 2: that's right, it's not just that.
- 45:57Speaker 6: It's that at the same time as you've got plummeting
- 46:00Speaker 6: of graduation for domestic students, you've got skyrocketing rates of
- 46:03Speaker 6: graduation for foreign students. And so it goes to the
- 46:06Speaker 6: point that universities are now just factories for backdoor visa
- 46:09Speaker 6: entry of those who would otherwise probably never attain a visa.
- 46:13Speaker 6: Now I've got nothing against the students themselves. Of course
- 46:16Speaker 6: you'd want to come to Australia. What a great country
- 46:18Speaker 6: and what a great opportunity, So good luck to them,
- 46:20Speaker 6: but you know, universities have lost their way. They've getting
- 46:24Speaker 6: all this money and the rivers of gold from the
- 46:26Speaker 6: international students, but that's not being shared.
- 46:29Speaker 2: With the community.
- 46:29Speaker 6: In fact, the community bear the costs in terms of
- 46:32Speaker 6: the rental situation, international students taking up the rental market
- 46:36Speaker 6: and other social pressures. So we're seeing a collapse of universities.
- 46:40Speaker 6: They're not providing good services for domestic students because they're
- 46:43Speaker 6: catering towards the international market, and that's why we need
- 46:46Speaker 6: a hardcap.
- 46:47Speaker 2: On international students.
- 46:48Speaker 6: That's well below the one that the government is currently proposing.
- 46:52Speaker 2: James, I do love it when the left self flagellate.
- 46:58Speaker 2: I want to talk about the arch Bishop of Canterbury,
- 47:01Speaker 2: Justin Welby, who has just discovered he's related to a
- 47:04Speaker 2: slave owner. It turns out his great great great grandfather
- 47:10Speaker 2: owned slaves in Jamaica, and a recent trip to the
- 47:13Speaker 2: area helped him to confront the legacies of enslavement in
- 47:15Speaker 2: the Caribbean. Now, Evelyn, the Archbishop of Canterbury, has approved
- 47:20Speaker 2: a plan to set aside one hundred million pounds of
- 47:22Speaker 2: parishioner's money to address the church's involvement in the slave trade.
- 47:27Speaker 2: Do you think he'll now be pulling out his own
- 47:29Speaker 2: wallet now that is great great great grandfather was a
- 47:33Speaker 2: slave owner.
- 47:35Speaker 14: I doubt that he will. But look, James, he really
- 47:38Speaker 14: should just resign in disgrace for all of this. You know,
- 47:42Speaker 14: it certainly wouldn't hurt the church either.
- 47:45Speaker 1: You know.
- 47:45Speaker 14: Worse than his ancestry is his theology. You know, if
- 47:50Speaker 14: the archbishop were a little bit more familiar with the Bible,
- 47:53Speaker 14: he'd be aware of the fact that God says the
- 47:55Speaker 14: son shall not suffer for the sins of the father.
- 48:00Speaker 14: You know, absent of real oppression. We now have folks
- 48:03Speaker 14: scouringancestry dot com for guilty bloodlines. I mean, can you
- 48:09Speaker 14: believe that? But of course, this whole shtick is just
- 48:12Speaker 14: another pretext, pretext for the confiscation of white man's property
- 48:17Speaker 14: being the taxpayer money. You know, Communism always comes as
- 48:22Speaker 14: an angel of light, and this is exactly that.
- 48:26Speaker 2: Very well said Evelyn and Daniel. Appreciate your time tonight.
- 48:30Speaker 2: Well that's all I've got time for this evening. I'll
- 48:32Speaker 2: be back tomorrow night, but don't go anywhere. Sherry Markson
- 48:35Speaker 2: is up right now.