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Heroic Rescue; Project Hail Mary; Heroism in an Age of Cynicism | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: be it. I don't think I'll be able to do
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  Speaker 1: shows the following week either, So anyway, we'll see where
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  Speaker 1: we go from there. All right. I did yesterday last night,
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  Speaker 1: I went to see the movie Project Hell Mary at
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  Speaker 1: the theaters, which is something that in recent years haven't
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  Speaker 1: done much of. Go actually see a movie at the theater.
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  Speaker 1: Usually just watch it at home. It was definitely definitely
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about the movie, but yeah, well if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to see the movie, go see it at the theaters.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely worth a night out at the theater to
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  Speaker 1: see it's it's definitely a fun, enjoyable movie. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: more about it in a minute. But importantly, over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: what we saw in in Iran was a It was
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  Speaker 1: a pretty amazing rescue operation, a real real heroic you know,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know all the details of it, but I
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  Speaker 1: think very here also gives us an indication of the
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  Speaker 1: kind of the commitment the United States has to saving
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  Speaker 1: individual human life its own soldiers, and the kind of
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  Speaker 1: message that sends I think everybody who fights in the
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  Speaker 1: American Armed forces, particularly as compared let's say to the
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  Speaker 1: Iranian armed forces, where the attitude is very, very different,
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  Speaker 1: where soldiers and are treated as canna fodder. Or think
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  Speaker 1: about it, think about Russia. Think about the way Russia
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  Speaker 1: treats it soldiers on the battlefield in Ukraine. They're just battle,
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  Speaker 1: They're just canafadder. The United States value the lives or
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  Speaker 1: at least in some cases, values the lives of individual
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  Speaker 1: soldiers and is willing to go the distance and invest
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  Speaker 1: a huge amount. We'll get into what a huge amount
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  Speaker 1: is in a minute in order to in order to
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  Speaker 1: save them. And this is a kind of a warrior
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  Speaker 1: code that Israel shares with the United States. Never leave
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  Speaker 1: anybody behind, Always get them out, put whatever's necessarily in
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  Speaker 1: order to get them out kind of attitude. Now, let's
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  Speaker 1: go vote what happening here, because I think it's it's
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  Speaker 1: illustrative of the kind of dominance in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Has any run right now, It's illustrative of the kind
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  Speaker 1: of kind of specialized forces that the United States has
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  Speaker 1: in the region, and of course indicative, very indicative of
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  Speaker 1: the unbelievable heroism of American soldiers and American troops. So
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  Speaker 1: I think it was fighting an F fifteen E was downed,
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  Speaker 1: was hit by a a defense missile, probably a shoulder
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  Speaker 1: fired either Russian or Chinese model. And in this rare occasion,
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  Speaker 1: and again when you take it to count the number
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  Speaker 1: of flights that both the US and Israel has been
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  Speaker 1: flying over, you run it is crazy how few of
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  Speaker 1: these have happened. But anyway, in this case the plane
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  Speaker 1: did go down. Both the pilot and the weapons the
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  Speaker 1: weapons officer who sits behind the pilot both ejected and
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  Speaker 1: parachute parachute opened, and they both landed on the ground,
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  Speaker 1: but very distant from each other. Not to remember, these
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  Speaker 1: planes are going unbelievable speeds. Just a fraction of seconds
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  Speaker 1: of differensive of ejection and wind and everything else, they
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  Speaker 1: could be dramatically separated. Now, again we don't know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the details. What we know is that very
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  Speaker 1: quickly after the plane crashed, the pilot was found and rescued.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's think about how this works. The United States
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  Speaker 1: just like Israel have special units that are trained, and
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  Speaker 1: they're trained and ready and at the go basically for
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  Speaker 1: these kind of instractions. This is what they do, This
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  Speaker 1: is what they specialize in. They have the logistics, they
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  Speaker 1: have the weapons systems, helicopters, planes, refueling, special ops, whatever
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  Speaker 1: they need at their disposal. When pilots drop behind Anima territory,
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  Speaker 1: the doctrine today is you stop everything else. That becomes
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  Speaker 1: your number one focus and that becomes your orientation. And
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  Speaker 1: what is truly amazing, I think in this case is
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  Speaker 1: how quickly troops deployed. Remember this is really really crucial,
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  Speaker 1: hard to comprehend really sitting here and you know, so
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  Speaker 1: far away. These two pilots, you know, ejected in deep
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  Speaker 1: in Iranian territory close to Isfahan. Indeed, the pilots were
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  Speaker 1: found you know fifty you know, probably an hour drive,
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  Speaker 1: less than an hour drive from Istafan, a city of
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  Speaker 1: two point two million people in Iran. Istafun is also
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  Speaker 1: where a major nuclear a site is, where supposedly the
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  Speaker 1: four hundred and something kilograms of uranium are buried. It's
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  Speaker 1: also very close to the site of a major ballistic
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  Speaker 1: missile storage facility. So we're talking about the heart of Iran,
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  Speaker 1: the heart of militarized Iran. And yet the United States
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  Speaker 1: could immediately deploy helicopters, atens and special ops to immediately
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  Speaker 1: go and find the pilot and get him out. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's amazing. I mean where are where are the
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  Speaker 1: United States? I mean the United States assets up pretty
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  Speaker 1: far from there, and yet they're close enough, and they're
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  Speaker 1: so quick, and they dominate their space to such an
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  Speaker 1: extent they're going get the guy and get out of
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  Speaker 1: the Pilots today also am and have the specialized equipment,
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  Speaker 1: as do these special teams, the search and rescue teams.
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  Speaker 1: There are specialized equipment that is focused on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: basically sending out a message, a signal of where you are,
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  Speaker 1: even if you know, even without deploying a radio, just
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  Speaker 1: a signal that immediately starts broadcasting as soon as you
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  Speaker 1: ejected out and the UH and and again there's such
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  Speaker 1: a rescue cruise have specialized equipment to pinpoint your location
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  Speaker 1: and to find you. So amazing that they got the
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  Speaker 1: pilot out so quickly and so effectively, and then it
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  Speaker 1: was bewildering a little bit why they couldn't get the
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  Speaker 1: second the second guy out, what was going on with
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  Speaker 1: the co pilot or the the the weapons guy, right,
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  Speaker 1: the weapons guy, And we still don't know exactly what happened, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I heard stories that he was unconscious for
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  Speaker 1: a while with a concussion, and uh, but why, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's supposedly the thing that the beacon is deployed even
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  Speaker 1: if he is unconscious, so they should have been, you know,
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  Speaker 1: known where he is. Approximately. Suppose he made first contact
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  Speaker 1: sometime on Friday, two days ago, and he started evading. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as this happened. As soon as this happened,
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  Speaker 1: the Uranians immediately deployed IRGC units. Not very far, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's the fun, it's just there. They put out a bounty, right,
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  Speaker 1: they told civilians to go hunt him down. They put
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  Speaker 1: out a bounty. They said they paid if they caught him,
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  Speaker 1: and people started search for him. It turns out that
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  Speaker 1: he evaded, that climbed up a hill mountain. Now I
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  Speaker 1: see various you know, some people say he climbed up
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  Speaker 1: a two thousand media mountain. Others says two thousand foot.
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  Speaker 1: Others have said twelve thousand foot. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: he climbed up mountain he was injured, clearly injured, and
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  Speaker 1: he evaded the tech, climbed up this mountain and hid
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  Speaker 1: in a crevice at the top of the mountain. If
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  Speaker 1: you've seen pictures of the area, this is a mountainous area,
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  Speaker 1: the desert. There's nothing there. You can't see a tree
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  Speaker 1: or a or a piece of blade of grass. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is the middle of the desert. There's
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  Speaker 1: nothing alive there, at least not up in the mountains.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It is completely desolate, right, completely desolate. Managed
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  Speaker 1: to get to this place, find himself a crevice in
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  Speaker 1: the mountain, a high there. In the meantime, I orgy,
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  Speaker 1: see besiege a Sevilian population looking from now. There is
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  Speaker 1: a parallel story rumors. Again, we won't know, probably until
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  Speaker 1: the Hollywood movie comes out. But then we won't know
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  Speaker 1: if the Hollywood movie is true or not. Maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: the pilot, maybe he'll write a book. Who knows. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: maybe one day we'll know what actually happened. But there
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  Speaker 1: are stories out there that he was actually found by
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  Speaker 1: friendly Iranians who hit him and helped him get away.
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  Speaker 1: And the videos online and stories online suggesting that as
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  Speaker 1: the ILGC is coming to find him. Iranians civilians went
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  Speaker 1: out into the streets with their cause and just by
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  Speaker 1: foot blocking the path, stopping the ILGC getting to where
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  Speaker 1: he was. Again, I have a feeling all those stories
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  Speaker 1: are made up, that they're not real. But you'll find that.
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  Speaker 1: You'll find that. You'll find that a few other things
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  Speaker 1: that were going on while he was hiding and while
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  Speaker 1: he was evading capture. I still don't know exactly why
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  Speaker 1: it took so long to find him, but a few
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  Speaker 1: more things that were going on. One Israel stopped bombing
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  Speaker 1: in the area. So Israel immediately stopped bombing in the area.
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  Speaker 1: Israel had targets aligned to take out in Istafan in
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  Speaker 1: the mountains in the vicinity. They stopped all ups in
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  Speaker 1: the area, and they shifted the airplanes to assisting the Americans.
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  Speaker 1: What started happening as American airplanes and Israeli airplanes were
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  Speaker 1: shooting at the IRGC and Bashi's caravans that were moving
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  Speaker 1: towards where the pilot was hiding, and they you know,
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  Speaker 1: so the so the if the airplanes were taking them out. Second,
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  Speaker 1: the CIA started engaging in COVID operations media primarily operations
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  Speaker 1: or different fake information to fake out their RGC. They
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  Speaker 1: suggested the pilot was in a different region, in a
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  Speaker 1: different area. UH. They tried to divert attention from where
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  Speaker 1: he really was and try to get them to go
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  Speaker 1: and search and focus on an area on a separate area.
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  Speaker 1: Supposedly that worked for a while, keeping them away from him. UH.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, the United States the covered that
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  Speaker 1: not far from where he was, there was an abandoned airfield,
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  Speaker 1: a dirt airfield, not a real airfield, something used for agriculture,
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  Speaker 1: so a dirt airfields, flat area. UH. And they they
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  Speaker 1: they basically deployed two Hercules. These are big, massive planes.
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  Speaker 1: Two Hercules landed in this airfield. Inside the Hercules were
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  Speaker 1: these smaller helicopters, right, and the smaller helicopters that he
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  Speaker 1: used for extraction together with Special Forces teams. Now again
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  Speaker 1: you read a variety of different reports, but the report,
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  Speaker 1: some of the reports are saying over one hundred different
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  Speaker 1: Special Forces individuals were participated in all of this. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And the actual extraction, you know, was done by Seal
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  Speaker 1: Team six, same team that killed Bin Laden kind of
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  Speaker 1: the elite of the of the of the seal teams.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know it could have been the Delta Force,
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  Speaker 1: but it clearly was one of the elite UH special
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  Speaker 1: forces teams. There's also a story coming out of Israel,
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  Speaker 1: which the Israeli government denies, but somebody leaked that two
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  Speaker 1: special forces unit Israeli special Forces units UH the Saled
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  Speaker 1: Macal which is the elite special forces unit, and shah
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  Speaker 1: Dag which is a special forces unit that specializes in
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  Speaker 1: UH in how would you put it, UH locating themselves
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  Speaker 1: deep into Feign, deep into into Animy territory. That they
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  Speaker 1: also participated in this mission. Most of what the special
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  Speaker 1: forces units were doing is they got into a firefight
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  Speaker 1: with the I c G uh GC trying to keep
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  Speaker 1: them away from where the pilot was. As the helicopters,
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  Speaker 1: these four small helicopters went up to extract him out
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  Speaker 1: of there. They ultimately succeeded in extracting him, took him
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  Speaker 1: back to the airfield, loaded up the planes, special force teams,
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  Speaker 1: pilot helicopters all loaded up into these two massive airplanes.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing about these C one thirties, I think
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  Speaker 1: they're called. What's unique about these C one thirties is
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  Speaker 1: they can land on a very short airfield. They could
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  Speaker 1: take off from a very short airfield. And this was
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  Speaker 1: a very short airfield, you know, designed for agriculture, not
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  Speaker 1: designed for you know, massive airplanes. The problem was that
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  Speaker 1: when they tried to take off, supposedly the airplanes got
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  Speaker 1: stuck in the mud over there or in the sand,
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  Speaker 1: and they were not able to take off. So now
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  Speaker 1: they're defending their positions while ILGC besieged, people are coming
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  Speaker 1: at them from all directions. They can't take off, and
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  Speaker 1: so they're defending this position. So what they did was
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  Speaker 1: defended until three smaller planes came landed, loaded everybody up,
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  Speaker 1: took off and took them back to safety. Now, think
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  Speaker 1: about the logistics, the coordination, Think about the troops on
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  Speaker 1: the ground deep inside Iran, you don't far away from
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  Speaker 1: any permanent American asset. Think about what that the courage,
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  Speaker 1: the heroism, the dedication, the unbelievable professionalism. Now, once they
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  Speaker 1: took off, American fighter jets came in and blew up
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  Speaker 1: the two C one thirties because the Sea one thirties
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  Speaker 1: contained with the helicopters inside. Because both they contained the helicopters,
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  Speaker 1: which incredibly valuable, but more importantly they contained these are
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  Speaker 1: C one thirties that had designed to transport special ops troops.
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  Speaker 1: They have classified communications technology. They have a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: technology that's classified. They blew them up, they destroyed them.
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  Speaker 1: You could see pictures online. They completely destroyed. They're gone.
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  Speaker 1: So there was a wreckage of the two SA one
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  Speaker 1: thirties in the Iranian desert lying there, which the Iranian
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  Speaker 1: television is showing to pretend that they did something, which
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  Speaker 1: of course they did not. Really interesting parallel here with
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  Speaker 1: once then that pallel with Operation Eagle Claw. Operation Ego
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  Speaker 1: Claw was an operation that the US attempted on April
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourth, nineteen eighty in Iran, not that far from
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  Speaker 1: where all of this went down. It was an operation
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  Speaker 1: intended to rescue fifty two American hostages who were being
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  Speaker 1: held into Hran after the American embassy had been taken
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  Speaker 1: over into Hran. The helicopters as they were moving towards Tehran,
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  Speaker 1: they were beset by sandstone. Helicopters had mechanical failures at
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  Speaker 1: a desert staging site called Desert One. The mission was aborted.
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  Speaker 1: It led to a helicopter aircraft collision. Eight US servicemen
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  Speaker 1: were killed. The wreckage of the you know helicopters and
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  Speaker 1: the aircraft were there. You know again it was a
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  Speaker 1: C one thirty, and you know this was this was
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  Speaker 1: a symbol, and the Iranians played on this, a symbol
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  Speaker 1: of American military failure, a symbol of the superiority of
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  Speaker 1: the Iranians over the Americans, a symbol of the ascent
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  Speaker 1: of the Iranian Islamic Republican, a descent of America to
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  Speaker 1: a loge extent. You could argue that this failure, this
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  Speaker 1: failed mission in April of nineteen eighty, was the reason
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter ultimately lost election that November. It just represented
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  Speaker 1: his whole administration. Administration was perceived to be just a failed,
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  Speaker 1: just failure and incompetence and just amateuristic as compared to
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  Speaker 1: what happened today. By the way, you us learned a
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  Speaker 1: lot from that, learned a lot about rescue operations, how
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  Speaker 1: to get people out. I'm sure they've equiped their helicopters
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  Speaker 1: and everything else visa vis sandstorms. You know, us learned
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  Speaker 1: a lot from that operation. And indeed, other than the
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  Speaker 1: planes getting stuck, this operation worked perfectly and amazingly, and
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they could land to see one thirties
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  Speaker 1: deep inside Iran and in a sense going detected and
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  Speaker 1: still get the troops out of there and operate deep
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  Speaker 1: inside Iran. And the way they did it's pretty amazing
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  Speaker 1: and suggests that maybe all this pessimism about an operation
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  Speaker 1: to get out the uranium or all the pessimism about
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  Speaker 1: taking an island is overblown. The United States, the United
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  Speaker 1: States military today, you know, is the best in the
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  Speaker 1: world and in is amazingly professional and has capabilities, technological
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  Speaker 1: and weapons system. Why is that no other country in
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  Speaker 1: the world has anything close to it? And this operation
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  Speaker 1: is one more example of that. One of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: I think that the Israelis are denying the participation of
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  Speaker 1: the two Israeli special Forces units in this operation is
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  Speaker 1: that acknowledging it would basically acknowledge that these units are
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  Speaker 1: indeed operating call it full time in Iran, like there's
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  Speaker 1: no way these special units came from Israel too far away.
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  Speaker 1: And the reality is and I think, you know, I'm speculating,
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  Speaker 1: but I think I'm on pretty solid grounded. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's very little doubt that Israeli Special Unit forces on
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  Speaker 1: the ground in Iran conducting operations in Iran behind the
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  Speaker 1: scenes whether it's reconnaissance, intelligence, whether it's sabotage. There are
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  Speaker 1: Israeli soldiers boots on the ground, call it an Iran,
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  Speaker 1: not just MOSAD, but special forces as well. And my
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  Speaker 1: guess is that is also true of the US. You
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  Speaker 1: probably get Delta Force operators in various locations, strategical locations,
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  Speaker 1: an Iran doing reconnaissance, target identification, and maybe some sabotage.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, again, these are incredibly brave, courageous soldiers
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  Speaker 1: fighting for what they believe is the freedom of their country,
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  Speaker 1: the safety of the people they love, fighting for their values.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is real heroism or these people exhibit
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  Speaker 1: and what you know and and and how they operate
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  Speaker 1: and and incredible professionalism. You know, these special units forces,
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  Speaker 1: both American and Israeli probably the best special forces units
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  Speaker 1: in the world, I think, by father, the best special
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  Speaker 1: special forces units in the world and the best special
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  Speaker 1: forces units ever. They've never been soldiers better equipped, more lethal,
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, better resourced uh than and and and
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  Speaker 1: more capable than special forces units today in the American
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  Speaker 1: Israeli military. It really truly is astounding what they can
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  Speaker 1: do and uh and and what they do do indeed,
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  Speaker 1: what they absolutely do do all right, So you know
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  Speaker 1: this is this is where we are a really a
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  Speaker 1: really heroic day for the American military. Good for them again,
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  Speaker 1: I think contrast the attitude of Ran towards its own citizens,
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  Speaker 1: shooting them in the streets. A contrast Russia's attitude towards
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  Speaker 1: its own soldiers. It's a meat grinder. Just send them
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  Speaker 1: out there and be slotted with American view. Will do
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  Speaker 1: whatever it takes to rescue our soldiers. Now, by the way,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and you'll see this a lot online, and this is
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: where you'll see the kind of the cynicism. We'll talk
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: about it a little bit. The operation probably cost if
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you take into account the two destroyed C one thirties,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, this operation costs maybe one hundred and thirty
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: million dollars, sorry, three hundred million dollars, three hundred million
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: dollars to save one guy. Three hundred million dollars to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: say one guy. So this is what the US militaviy does.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: This is what it's good at, and it sends a
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: signal to the world and primarily to other soldiers. We
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: value human life, we value American lives. We will fight
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to get you out. We will not abandon our troops.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And that's a powerful message and incredibly motivating message to
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the pilots who are flying and still flying missions over Yan.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It is a powerful message to other troops that might
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: be engaged in the days to come. You know, this
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: is this is good. This is good and again the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: exact opposite of what we saw in nineteen eighty. Let
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: me see, let me see if this is I covered everything?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Got that? Got that? Uh yeah, here's a here's an
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: interesting perspective right from This is written by an Iranian.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Right now, my guess is she's living outside of Iran,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: but this is by an Iranian woman. As an Iranian
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: watching this rescue mission unfold, I was praying for the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: American soldier would make it out alive, not just for him,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: but so the Islamic Republic could not use him as
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a boggaining chip or claim some twisted victory. At the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: same time, I felt a deep envy. I don't think
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that's the right word, but anyway, your government sent elite
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: special forces, million dollar aircraft and moved heaven and earth
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to bring one American home, no hesitation, no excuses. Anyone
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: on the regime uses human shields and recruited child soldiers
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to clear minefields during the Ronni Rock War. They treat
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: their own people like disposable tools. They are now recruiting
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: child soldiers as we speak. The stomach Republic has zero
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: God for human life. That's the brutal difference. One science
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: risks everything to save their own the other sacrifices they
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: own to stay in power. This this hit hard when
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you lived under both realities, and you know, absolutely true.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: During the Ronni Rock War, the Ranians sent children to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: clear minds. Basically, they blew up. That's how they cleared
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the minds. And you know, but this is the fundamental difference.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I'll end with this. This is the fundamental difference between
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a still a mostly mostly individualistic culture and a dominantly
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: dominantly uh you know, collectivistic culture and and collectivistic mist
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: mixed in with a bunch of mysticism, right, so a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: theocratic culture of of mysticism, the combination of mysticism and religion.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: That's the fundamental difference. All right, let's talk about Project
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Hail Mary. And I'm not going to say too much
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: about the movie because I don't want to give any spoilers.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I'll just tell you my reaction to it and uh,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in particularly in the context of of what I want
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to talk about, which is heroism in a in a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: cynical in a cynical world in which we live, in
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a cynical culture in which we live. So let me
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: just say it's a fun movie and we'll get to that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It's not a movie that takes heroism overly seriously, sadly.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: It's a movie that is part comedy. There's definitely a
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: comedic element. A lot of the time you're laughing. Uh.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And it's in the genre of you know, other kind
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: of saving civilizations, saving the world type movies whose name
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: are not coming to me now that Bruce Willis I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: think was very good at was the one where he
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: goes to the asteroids and blows it up with a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: nuclear bomb. But it's definitely it's definitely, you know Neil says,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: too childish. It definitely has that childish element, which is
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: more of a human element. But it's you know, all
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of that is in a sense well balanced. It's funny,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it's entertaining, it's you know, suspenseful at part power to Almaged.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of Omagen. It's suspenseful, at parts you
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: can't take it too seriously, you know, the science or
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the things that they actually do. If you think about
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: it too much, they don't make any sense. There's an
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: encounter within alien. The alien again is kind of funny
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and cute in kind of a weird way, but it's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a fun, entertaining movie to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: go to, but it has and it's important to note,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: it has a uh you know, it takes the idea.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: So the hero in the movie is clearly heroic, but
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: is the ultimate in reluctant hero, the ultimate in the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: hero who doesn't want to be a hero, who rejects
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the idea of being a hero. But more than that,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: from the beginning of the movie, the hero is a
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: man of low self esteem. You have to say, somebody
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: who doesn't believe himself doesn't be believe he has ability,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Cynical about the world, cynical about everything around him. He
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: is incredibly competent, and every time he's given an assignment
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: he achieves it, but he almost always downplays it, almost
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: always ridicules it and purpoos it. Now I think by
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the end he's not doing that, But because I mean,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: if this doesn't prove his worth. I don't know what does.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: But there's definitely throughout the movie this cynical undertone of yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I shouldn't be doing this. I'm not a
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: real hero. It's not really me, you know. And the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: humor fits in with that, right, humor is one way
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to kind of downgrade the the the heroic aspect of it,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the the you know man, as as as as containing
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: self esteem and achieving and able and prospering. Now he's
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: very able here, you know. He achieves great things. He's
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: by the end of it, unbelievably heroic, takes enormous risks,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: achieves great things, makes courageous decisions, choices, he makes choices.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: It's not he's you know. So even though he's thrust
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: into a situation which and I don't want to give
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: too much away, but thrust into situation that he is
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: not not of his choosing, if you will, not of
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: his choosing, he makes the most of it and becomes
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: a hero. But it's definitely in the you know what
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: do you call it tradition of movies that do not
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: want you to take the heroism of their character too seriously.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And indeed there is something that happens, you'll see it
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: when it happens. That really undermines so much of what
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: heroism actually means, and and and you know the choices
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: that it requires. So, you know, exciting, I think well made,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you know, well shot, certainly exciting. And fun. I think
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: fun is the main thing I say about the movie.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: It's fun. It's uh And again, I think one of
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the things that people will like about it in the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: culture in which we live is that it doesn't take
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: itself too seriously. It doesn't take too seriously, right, it
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't take itself seriously, which I think is consistent with
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the kind of cynical culture in which we live. I've
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: not read the book. My guess is the book does not.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: While I don't know how loyal this is to the book,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if the book also has these
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: elements of cynicism, the heavy use of humor in it. Right,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Henrick says, the book is pretty technical. Yeah, And I'm
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: not sure why you would even be technical, because the
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: whole thing is is pretty non technical, you know, the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: whole thing, including the fact that the spaceship that he
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: uses is flying close to the speed of light, which has
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: all kinds of impacts in terms of time and everything else,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure those are reflected in the movie.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: They ever really discussed a lot of things that you
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: would expect to be discussed, and ever really discussed in
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: terms of the technical site of what is going on.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: But the whole idea is he wakes up on a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: spaceship not knowing how he got there and not knowing
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: why he's there, not knowing what the mission is. Now,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: given that he knows his way around the spaceship pretty well,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: he figures out stuff pretty quickly. So a lot of
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: if you actually think about the plot, a lot of
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it is is unbelievable. But that's okay. It's a science
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: fiction movie. It's a bit of a fantasy movie. It's
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a little out there and again fun, it's enjoyable, and
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you know, I think you'll enjoy it. I think it's
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a good family movie. It's a good movie to take
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the kids. It's exciting. They'll be interested, they'll be focused.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: But what it isn't It isn't a strong portrayal of heroism.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: It isn't a trail of heroism as a choice. I mean,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: there are heroic choices being made and I think he
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: becomes a hero. He becomes a hero. He is a
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: hero by the end of it. But it's constantly undermine
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: by how we got there, and by the constant humor,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the constant bumbling. I mean, he goes from barely physically
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: being able to do anything to amazing physical feats and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: just a matter of our you know, of ours minutes
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: in the in the case of the movie. But anyway,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's not consistently heroic. And indeed, you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: think about the world in which we live. I mean,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: when people do something admirable, something brave, something disciplined, something noble,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: often the first reaction is not admiration or gratitude. It's no,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: it's usually suspicion. I mean, in the case of what's
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: going on in youan it cuts three hundred million dollars?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: What are they? What are they doing? What do they
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: think of doing? What people always think? What's the angle?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: What's the motive? What are they hiding? Is this a
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: pr thing? You know? What's the powerplay? We live in
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a culture where admiration is unfashionable, where hero worship is uncool,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: where skepticism about human ability and and and and human
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: achievement is the dominant, right, it's luck, it's a genes
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: who helped them. But this is really bad for culture.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Human beings need heroes. They need heroes. A healthy culture
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: needs heroes. Young people need heroes. Not gods, not saints,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: not mystical beings. Heroes, human beings who show us what
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: is possible. Human beings who make you look up and say, yeah,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: that's worth admiring, or even more, I want to be
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: like that, that's worth emulating. That is what a great
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: human life looks like. When a culture loses that ability,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: and I think America had it. You can go back
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: to watch the movies in the nineteen fifties and kind
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: of the culture in that period. When a culture loses
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that capacity to admire, it's a sign of growing rot
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and that's what we are. Let's talk a little bit
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: about heroism. It's important. It's important for us each in
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: our own lives, and it's important in our culture. We
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: need to find it where it exists and appreciate it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: This is why I try to highlight, in the case
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: of the military success, things that are incredibly successful, there
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: quite real heroism. Tried for you to imagine what that
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: looks like because it's it's important to think that they
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: are good things happening out there in the world, to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: know that they're good things happening and out there in
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the world by that had done by efficacious, competent, heroic individuals.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: So what's heroism. Heroism is not about self sacrifice. That's crucial.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: It's often portrayed that way. Heroism is not I suffer,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: therefore I am good, I am noble. It's not throwing
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: yourself away for whatever cause happens to be fashional. It's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: not obedience to the tribe. It's not submission to duty
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: detached from your own values. And it's not reckless risk
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: taking for the sake of looking cool or looking brave.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Heroism is the courageous discipline commitment to a value in
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the face of obstacles, the obstacles to achieving that value.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: It's about values and valuing. It's about valuing something important,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: something rationally important to your life, something worth pursuing, building, protecting, defending, creating.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Herosm means this matters to me, This is worth it
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: to me, and therefore I will act accordingly, even if
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: it's hard, even when it's dangerous, even when other people
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: don't understand, even when the easier path, the easier path
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: is compromise or surrender. Heroism is sticking to your goal
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: when that goal is important, when the value is worth it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: That's what heroism is. Human beings survive and flows not automatically,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: not by instinct, but by thought and choice. We have
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to think, we have to judge, we have to pursue values,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: we have to create, we have to build, we have
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: to defend what matters. We have to defend our values.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: They're not giving to us automatically. Here is a person
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: who does this at the highest level. Does it seriously, deliberately, courageously,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: even if not perfectly. But it takes us life serious,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it takes us values seriously, and therefore it's deliberate and
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: serious and careerous. And this is why humor often he's
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: used to undermine this view of heroism. Now, sometimes courage
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: heroism is physical, Sometimes it's mol sometimes it's intellectual, Sometimes
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: it's productive. Sometimes it's the courage to stand alone. Sometimes
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: it's a courage to keep going when everything around you
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: says stop quit, it's not worth it. But the essence
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: is always the same. It's loyalty to rational value in
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the face of obstacles. It's an application of integrity. But
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that's not the world in which we live. We live
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: in a world of cynicism. Why is it Well, cynicism
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: is easy, it's cheap. It masquerades off in a sophistication,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: but most of the time it's laziness with attitude. The
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: cynic says, don't be fooled. Everyone's corrupt. Every ideal is hypocrisy.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Every act of courageous performance, every leader is compromised, Every
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: institute is rotten. Every claim to greatness is just fraud.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: And even with something heroicbins in front of their faces,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: there must be a downside. There must be some negative
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I can focus on, which is where their mind goes.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: It costs three hundred million dollars. Sadly, when people hear this,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: they think, yeah, that's very smart, very worldly, very mature.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Remember heroism is for teenage boys. Mature people understand that
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: people are flawed. Heroism doesn't exist. The world is complicated,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But it's actually the opposite to be cynical as to
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: be lazy. It's easy. It requires nothing from you. It
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: requires no judgment, no discrimination, no higher key, no willingness
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: to identify who is actually good and why it just
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: flattens everything. And indeed, if you think about the dominant
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: philosophies around us, it's very galitarian. Nobody is exceptional, nobody
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: is really good, nobody is heroic. I'm not the people
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I know or not. Therefore nobody must be because we
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: must flatten everybody to the lowest common denominate. That is
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: why egalitarian is and demands from us. Everybody's bad, everybody's faking,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: nobody's noble, nothing is really real. That's just evasion. And
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: it's a psychological purpose, a convenient one because if they're
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: no heroes, then you don't have to rise. If greatness
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: is fake, then you don't have to pursue greatness. If
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: admiration is a naive, then you never had to have
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to confront uncomfortable fact maybe you could be better than
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you really are. Cynicism protects people from aspiring, It stops
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: people from acting and being ambitious. And that's the main
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: reason why it's so poisonous, you know. And it's consistent,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: so consistent with the ideologies we have advanced. It's consistent
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: with the ideas expressed by Christianity, original sin. We're all fallen.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: We're all just struggling with sin. We're all just trying
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: to keep ahead above water, given how imbue our life
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: is with sin. Don't be powered and don't look for
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: achievement out there. And you know postmodernism, and you know
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: is there's no reality, there's no mind, there is no
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: there is no truth. Everything is relative. A culture of
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: cynicism is a culture saying to people, don't look up,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: don't revere, don't admire, don't idealize, smirke, shrug, deconstruct, roll
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: your eyes, laugh, and call it wisdom. It's not wisdom.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: It's spiritual exhaustion. It's spiritual corruption, it's spiritual decay. A
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: culture of cynicism is a culture that tells you don't
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: not just don't look up, but don't aspire for yourself
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: any too much. Be realistic about your own abilities, don't strive,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: don't try, don't push, don't be a hero. Don't be
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: a hero. Now you see the contrast. Now you see
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: this in movies, and now we still have heroism in
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: some movies. You know, often these movies are in another world,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: in a fantasy world, in a science fiction world, in
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: order to distance it from a reality. Not to give
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: you a false perspective that you could be one of
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: those Often you know so oft and again movies are superheroes.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Here was a superheroes again to give you a sense. Well,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I wasn't born with that power. So I can't be
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: a superhero. I can't be heroic. I can't achieve he
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: can because he had that super thing in his DNA.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I don't have it. No good. Let's look at a few,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: you know movies that actually do project heroism. I think
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: you see heroism in a fantasy series like The Lord
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: of the Rings. Aragon is a powerful heroic figure because
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: when a moment comes, he accepts responsibility. He takes on
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: the mission. He rises to the occasion. He doesn't say
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't ask for this, leave me alone. He does
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: not wallow in self doubt or self pity. He stands
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: up and does it. He is noble in that sense. Well, Sam, right,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: He's not a king. He's not going to lead troops
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: into battle. He's not a warrior. He's still need not
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: a genius. But when Photo his friend who is on
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a mission on a quest, there is a value to Sam,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: both the friendship and the quest itself. When Photo cannot
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: go on, Sam carries him. I mean that's really heroism
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: right there, in one unforgettable image. Right. There's no irony,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: there's no detachment, there's no humor, there's no cynicism. He's
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: loyal to values, he's loyal to values, he's loyal to
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the person he loves, and he just refuses to quit,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: he said roic. Compare that to much of modern storytelling.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: So much of the movies around us involve, you know,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: antiheroes the morally exhausts, the detective who's fundamentally flawed, or
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: you know, in one case, what was that series a
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: serial killer turned catcher of serial killers? God, how sick
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: do you have to get? The damaged killer, the manipulator,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the guy had you know who has doun the cut
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: every serious statement with sarcasm, so nobody mistakes him for
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  Speaker 1: believing in anything. The dark hero that is suffering constantly
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  Speaker 1: is divorced. He has no life, he is unhappy, he
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  Speaker 1: has no friendship. He's just dedicated to catching the bad guys.
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  Speaker 1: But if that's what being heroic is, why would anybody
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  Speaker 1: want to be heroic? Antie Here's gonna often be interesting
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: character studies, complex, but they represent a real turn away
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  Speaker 1: from looking up, from admiration, from striving. And the problem
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: really becomes when antie he has become the culture default,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: when it's straightforward noble character becomes almost embarrassing to portray.
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  Speaker 1: When every act of sincerity has to be undercut, every
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: act of virtue dirtied up, every admirable person psychologized into dysfunction.
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  Speaker 1: What does that tell you? It tells you the culture
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  Speaker 1: is a shame the virtue. And this is altruism. Altruism
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  Speaker 1: makes you a shame of virtue because altruism teaches you
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  Speaker 1: virtue is impractical, virtue is unattainable, and then for pride
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  Speaker 1: is corrupt that you could even think of attaining these
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  Speaker 1: virtues because they're impossible. It tells you the culture has
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  Speaker 1: lost confidence in man. Now he had two other movies,
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  Speaker 1: one by the Way, by the same author of hel
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  Speaker 1: Mary of Project hel Mary. Two other movies, one Apollo thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: the other The Martian. These are amazing, wonderful movies because
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  Speaker 1: they present a form of heroism. A culture badly underestimates
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  Speaker 1: rational competence in the face of life threatening challenges. In
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  Speaker 1: Apollo thirteen, disaster strikes and what happens I mean unscreened.
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  Speaker 1: What happens men think, They focus, They dedicate themselves to
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  Speaker 1: solving problems. They stay oriented to reality. They don't collapse
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  Speaker 1: into emotionalism. They do not surrender to the chaos. They
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  Speaker 1: use their minds. That is heroism. That is what every
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  Speaker 1: one of us should aspire to. Same thing. In the
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  Speaker 1: Martian Mark Whitney is alone in extreme danger, facing death.
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  Speaker 1: What does he do? He figures it out, He works
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  Speaker 1: the problem, then he works the next problem, and then
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  Speaker 1: the next. And indeed, those are the deepest forms of heroism,
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  Speaker 1: the ones that we you don't see the least of
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  Speaker 1: out there in the culture. The refusal to surrender your consciousness,
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  Speaker 1: the refusal to surrender your reason, the refusal to give
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  Speaker 1: up your ability to think so problems. You know, so
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: many in our culture would say, oh, this is unfair
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  Speaker 1: that this has happened to me, and I'm helpless. Save me.
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  Speaker 1: But these characters in these movies, for them, reality is
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  Speaker 1: what it is now. They need to think and act
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  Speaker 1: and solve. That's heroism. Yeah. He Jennifer mentions the woman
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  Speaker 1: in Aliens Aliens with an ass at the back Ripley,
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  Speaker 1: particularly in the second movie, this is emphasized. She keeps
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  Speaker 1: stopping and saying, think, Think, How do I solve this?
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  Speaker 1: How are they getting this? How are they succeeding? What
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  Speaker 1: is happening? How do I constantly constantly think? Think? Think?
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  Speaker 1: And all the other characters around her, every one of
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: them represents a different form of unthinking. The best of
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: them figures out that Ripley is doing the thinking, and
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: he just follows her and does what she tells him.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: But one of the others is guided by emotion or thought.
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  Speaker 1: That's what makes Aliens such an incredible movie, because it's
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  Speaker 1: about the mind under pressure, real heroism. And then you
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: have movies about moral courage, movies like Shindler's List, movies
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  Speaker 1: where what matters is not physical proudness or technical brilliance,
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  Speaker 1: but the willingness to stand up against evil in an
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  Speaker 1: unglamorous way if you will and do so when evil
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  Speaker 1: is dominant in everywhere around you, pre dominates everything around you. Again,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: a kind of heroism that's rare and very precious when
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: you live in a culture dominated by evil, and yet
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: somehow you stick to your moral beliefs. In a sense,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: it's good to be good when goodness is applauded It's
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: much harder when it isolates you, when it's potentially costly,
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  Speaker 1: when it threatens you, when it could destroy you. That
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  Speaker 1: requires real moral courage. It's easy in social media to
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  Speaker 1: hide behind it an anonymous label and attack everybody and
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  Speaker 1: pretend that you're morally courageous. It's different to actually act
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  Speaker 1: in the world against evil, stand up against it, knowing
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  Speaker 1: the full consequences of what could happen if you were caught.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at art, you can see the same phenomena.
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  Speaker 1: Heroic art Painting sculpture shows man as worthy of admiration, exalted, purposeful, capable,
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  Speaker 1: not as a god, as it's a human being in
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  Speaker 1: this world capable of dealing with it. Think of Greek sculpture,
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  Speaker 1: Think of Michelangelo's David. Why does David still hit people
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  Speaker 1: so powerfully? Because it presents man as spiritually courageous, heroic, ready, alert, focused,
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  Speaker 1: confident before any action is taken. It captures not just
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  Speaker 1: an amazing, beautiful, anatomically accurate body, but much more important,
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  Speaker 1: much more significant, it captures a soul in command, a
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  Speaker 1: mind ready for action. That's what matters now again, Art
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  Speaker 1: matters because art tells us you know, it shows us
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  Speaker 1: what is possible. It shows us what kind of world
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  Speaker 1: is possible for us, or what kind of world we
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  Speaker 1: live in. It tells us what kind of beings we
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  Speaker 1: are and what is what kind of beings we can become.
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  Speaker 1: We respond to it emotionally and heroic. God David, for example,
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  Speaker 1: tells us man can be great. Man can be great
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  Speaker 1: physically and spiritually. Man can be great in thought and
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  Speaker 1: in action. The matter now you see around you, if
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: it's even art, says the opposite. It says fragmentation, disintegration, banality, absurdity, irony, ugliness.
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  Speaker 1: It says there's no sense and no idea, no higher chi,
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  Speaker 1: no goodness, just break down. That's cynicism in aesthetic form.
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  Speaker 1: And then people wonder why the culture feels demoralized and demoralizing.
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  Speaker 1: Of course it does. If your story's more greatness and
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  Speaker 1: your art rejects beauty and your intellectual sneered admiration, what
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  Speaker 1: exactly do you think people are going to feel energy, aspiration,
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  Speaker 1: moral confidence. No, they feel drained, detached, diminished. I mean,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: think about a culture whose best art is dedicated to
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  Speaker 1: the anti hero and the worst kind of anti hero.
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  Speaker 1: Tony soprano, Oh, what's his name in Breaking Bad, any
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  Speaker 1: of the characters in Breaking Bad, almost these are the
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  Speaker 1: or something called soul. Think about how degrading those human
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  Speaker 1: beings are to a real vision of man and what
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  Speaker 1: is possible. And they have good arts, they're well portrayed,
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  Speaker 1: well characterized, well written, well filmed. They are engaging shows,
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  Speaker 1: but they are ultimately sleeve bags, as elevated, elevated as
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  Speaker 1: the when you should focus on. And much of television
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  Speaker 1: is that way. Much of television is undermining, undercutting, and
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  Speaker 1: cynicism everyway. Everything is made fun of, everything is ridiculed.
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  Speaker 1: And of course this is also the case when we
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  Speaker 1: turn to the real world, not just movies and sculptures
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  Speaker 1: and TV shows. It exists all around us. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we have heroes, this the special ops soldiers and the
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  Speaker 1: pilots who did an amazing, unbelievable job of rescuing this
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  Speaker 1: pilot he himself, the dedication, the focus, the energy, the
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  Speaker 1: the action to save himself. But that is real heroism
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  Speaker 1: that you know, when you know there are acts of
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  Speaker 1: heroism around us, whether by firefighters or police, or or
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  Speaker 1: or or or a pilot that keeps in mind and
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  Speaker 1: lands lands a plane, you know, on the water and
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  Speaker 1: saves all the all his all his passengers, and does
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  Speaker 1: so coolly and calmly. That's heroism, that is amazing. But
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: then in Plays implies that some people are heroes in
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  Speaker 1: that sense, different in that sense, there's a hierarchy. Everybody's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: not the same. That's part of what makes people uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: To call someone a hero is to admit that some people,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: in some moments, are better than others. They're more courages,
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  Speaker 1: more disciplined, more admirable, better thinkers better. A hero and
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  Speaker 1: a coward are not morally equal and should not be
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  Speaker 1: judged equally. A person who rises under pressure and a
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  Speaker 1: person who collapses are not the same. Reality involves judgment,
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  Speaker 1: model judgment. It requires it. And then, of course there's
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: another form of heroism that our culture does not celebrate, sadly, tragically,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: horrifically productive heroism. The entrepreneur who works unbelievable hours and
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  Speaker 1: faces unbelievably odds to build a company. The scientist who
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  Speaker 1: solves a hard problem that he works on for years
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: while constantly being told it cannot be solved. Think of
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  Speaker 1: what was his name, Kirico? The woman scientists to ultimately
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to do Mrns. The engineer who creates
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  Speaker 1: something millions of people are going to benefit from, but
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  Speaker 1: is constantly derighted, and does so in spite of opposition
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  Speaker 1: by his investors, his you know, maybe even his employees,
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  Speaker 1: and certainly other engineers, the doctors at the pit if
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  Speaker 1: you watch that show, who master an unbelievably difficult craft
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  Speaker 1: and deploy it courageously. These people are heroes. Civilization depends
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  Speaker 1: on them, but our culture is so deeply suspicious of
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  Speaker 1: success that it often treats them as villains and is
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: morally tainted. Ultimately, this self interested and that can't be right. Successful. Well,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: they must have cheated rich, They must have been exploiters. Ambitious,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: they must be psychologically damaged. What did they father do
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  Speaker 1: to them when they were young to cause them to
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  Speaker 1: be ambitious? Exceptional? Well, nobody's really exceptional. That attitude putting
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: these great achievers down is immol evil, disgusting. The producer
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: is one of the great heroes of human life. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: these are the people that have built the world around us.
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  Speaker 1: They've created the world in which we live. We keep
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: tearing them down and they keep building in spite of it.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: That's heroic. So all around us. They are heroes. The
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: entrepreneur building that next great thing in Silicon Valley, the
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  Speaker 1: soldier fighting for his freedom and his liberty, the plenty
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: of those you can find in Ukraine fighting for their families,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: for their liberty, for their life. The dissidents and tyrannies
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: standing up to regimes. Think think of the women in
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Iran was it three years ago, who openly defied a
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  Speaker 1: brutal theocracy, who took off their job knowing they could
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  Speaker 1: be killed, who ridiculed the Mullahs, who demanded their liberty,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: their freedom. I mean, is there any greater example of
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  Speaker 1: heroism than those goals? I mean, it's not just symbolic.
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  Speaker 1: It's not hiding behind a social media meme. It's real bravery,
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  Speaker 1: it's real courage, it's real heroism. It's young people saying
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  Speaker 1: I will not live on my knees. I will live
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  Speaker 1: as a human being. I demand that these people should
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  Speaker 1: be admired, respected, looked up to. Heroism is personal. It
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  Speaker 1: is an individual human being making a choice. That is
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: what deserves attention, That is what deserves admiration. Heroism matters
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: because it shows us what is possible. It shows us
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  Speaker 1: the kind of life the kind of pursuit of values,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: the kind of passion around pursuit of values that is
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: possible in every aspect of our lives. A child sees
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: a hero and thinks, maybe I can be brave. A
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: young person sees a hero on things. Maybe integrity matters.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: An adult sees a hero on things. Maybe I should
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: demand more of myself, Maybe I can be better. Curos
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: are fuel for aspiration. That is their function, and that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: is why cynical culture attacks them. Cynicism cannot tolerate standards.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: It cannot tolerate moral aspiration. It cannot tolerate admiration. It
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: has to flatten everything because higher key, because judgment is unacceptable.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: If someone's genuinely great, then the rest of us have
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: to respond. Should respond. We should either admire, We need
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: to admire and rise. But there are many who resent
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: and tear down. The cynics choose resentment the hero worshippers.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: The hero worshippers call us upwards. Now, cynicism is not realism.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Cynicism is not about oh, let's be real, heroism Israel.
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  Speaker 1: It's not to pretend evil doesn't exist. Of course evil exists,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: thought exists, Corruption exists. How it is exists, trouble, terrible
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: people exist, bad institution exists. None of that is in question.
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  Speaker 1: The question is what do you conclude from that. The
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: siny concludes, because evil exists, because we're all fallen, greatness
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  Speaker 1: is fake, but that doesn't follow the realist. The real
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: realist says evil exists and greatness exists. And the heroic
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  Speaker 1: person says, I gotta choose which one is it going
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  Speaker 1: to be? Man is a being of volitional consciousness. We
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  Speaker 1: get to choose. We get to decide what kind of
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: human being we are. We can think or not, we
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: can sink or rise, we can create or destroy. That
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: means there could be no automatic guarantee of goodness, But
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: it also means greatness is real. To see only depravity
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: is not realism, it's selective blindness. The sync says there
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  Speaker 1: are hypocrites, there are no virtues. The realists there are hypocrites. Therefore,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: genuine virtues matter even more. And the hero says, I'll
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  Speaker 1: show you, I'll practice it. So for us, us, each
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  Speaker 1: one of us, in our day to day life. We're
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: not a battlefield, We are not in a movie, just
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: an ordinary life. What does it mean? It means refusing
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  Speaker 1: the easy sneer. It means telling the truth when lying
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: would be safer. It means standing up by your judgment
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: when conformity is easier. It means building something when the
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: world tells you creation is pointless. It means pursuing excellence
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: when mediocrity is socially rewarding over warded. It means creating
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: beauty in an ugly culture. It means refusing corruption, refusing envy,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: refusing the whole spiritual posture of the ultruist mystic cynics.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a star by you taking your value seriously. It's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: not melodynamic, melodramatic. It's real. It's reality, it's life. It
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: means you saying, I will judge, I will identify the good,
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  Speaker 1: I will allow myself to admire it, and I will
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  Speaker 1: try in my own life to live up to it.
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  Speaker 1: That is the real that's the real counter culture. We're
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: the real counter culture. We're the real radicals, We're the
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  Speaker 1: real Havan God. We're gonna admire the good. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: judge it to be good. We're gonna allow ourselves to
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  Speaker 1: admire it, and we are going to try to live
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  Speaker 1: up to it in our own lives. So can you survive.
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  Speaker 1: Can you be a hero in the world around us? Yes? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The culture doesn't make it easy, for sure, and the
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: intellectuals PuO pu it for sure, and the media, the
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: media ignores it, for sure. But it's about your life
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: and what heroism means in your life is to think, choose, build, defend, create, persevere,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: and you will have to be a hero to do
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: it in the culture in which we live, Recognize it
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: when surround it. You teach your kids to admire it,
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  Speaker 1: say no to cynical age, Embrace the good, Embrace what
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  Speaker 1: is noble, Embrace what is courageous. That's what it means
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: to be a human being. We need more of that.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: We need more heroes, more admiration, more seriousness about values,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: seriousness about values, and we need a lot less sneering,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: empty desks masquerading somehow as wisdom or sophistication. That's a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Go be a hero. Thanks everybody, All right, that is
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  Speaker 1: the show. Hopefully you got a little bit inspired there,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: and we're doing great on the super Chat. So thank
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: you guys, and let's yeah, let's take your questions. Oh wait,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Christopher says, that was like a formal speech. Yeah, it was,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't it? Okay, let's go to your questions. Thank you
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• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Let me also remind you, guys. I want to remind
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Christian if he's listening, turn that final section, that whole
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: section on heroism cynicism into a turn that into a
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: standalone video. I think it's worth it. Okay, let's see right.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Augustine. Augustine. It's quite a name, quite
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: a name. You know. We're writing this book at Christianity
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: versus the Western civilization, and Augustine's name comes up a lot.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Not this Augustine, the other one, the famous one. Hey, Ron,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I've listened to John Galt's speech many times. I love it.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I love it. What an indictment of the last two
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: thousand years. The way it spells it out on how
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't live your life well also spells that how
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: you should. The only hang up I have is abortion.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: If we are pro life, isn't it life? We're not
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: pro life. We're pro individual human life. We're not pro life.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Generally don't care about an ant's life. Generally, I don't
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: care about the fact that my skin has living cells
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: on it. I scrape them off, brush them aside. I
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: don't really care that much about them. And if I
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: get injured, you know, I don't moan the death of
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: my cells. We don't care about life. We co about
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: individual human life. And here's the thing about a fetus
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: was I got. They're not human life, yet they have
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: the potential to become human life in uh. You know,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: in the future, every cell in your body would have
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: that potential because they'll be able to switch it on
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: and turn it into a cell that can reproduce a
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: human life. They can turn it into a stem cell,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: they can turn it into an air they can literally
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: they can code. They'll be able to coat sells into
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: becoming embio, so becoming eggs and sperm, so that we
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: can create a fetus. As I got a potential. They
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: are alive. There's no question they are alive. But they're
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: not human. And as a consequence, if you think about
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: them a potential human life, and you think about an
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: actual existing individual human life. The woman, it's a no contest.
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  Speaker 1: She has rights, she's individuated. She's alive, she's thinking, she's
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: in control of her life, she's in control of her world.
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  Speaker 1: She gets to make her choices, she gets to make decisions.
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  Speaker 1: The fetus is not individuated. It is a parasite on her,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: on her. It does not breathe, it does not eat,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't act to sustain its own life. It sustains
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  Speaker 1: this life through her. So it is not an individual
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  Speaker 1: human life. And given that, it's not an individual human life,
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  Speaker 1: and it has no rights, that's all, and therefore the
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  Speaker 1: law shouldn't protect it. Now, when you see the ultrasound
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  Speaker 1: and you see this cute little thing and it looks
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: almost like a baby, and so on, you might say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I want that. I don't want to I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to kill that, And that's fine, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But the question is a question of politics. The question
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  Speaker 1: is a question of rights, question of rights, and rights
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  Speaker 1: to not begin until you're born, and rights to not
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  Speaker 1: begin until you're individuated, until you're separate, until you're in
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  Speaker 1: an individual human life. A fetus is not an individual
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  Speaker 1: human life. It just doesn't. You can pretend you can feel,
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  Speaker 1: but rationally it is not a bunch of you are leaving.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay. I can hear the truth. I know the
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  Speaker 1: truth is sometimes hard. It upsets. The truth upsets. We
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  Speaker 1: call them snowflakes. They like to call the leftist when
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: they leave snowflakes. But it's a slow flakes. And you
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  Speaker 1: have no right to force a woman to face the
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  Speaker 1: implications of having a baby. She is an autonous human
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  Speaker 1: being that gets to make decisions about our buddy. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I believe she should have been able to make decisions
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  Speaker 1: about her body but everything. She should be able to
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  Speaker 1: take drugs. She should be able to prostitute her so
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: she you know then, but she should also be able
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  Speaker 1: to have an abortion. She'ld be able to she should
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  Speaker 1: be able to donate a kidney. She should be able
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  Speaker 1: to commit suicide. She should be able to do what
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  Speaker 1: she wants with her buddy. It is her buddy. So
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  Speaker 1: that is at least my position on abortion, and I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: think that reflects the position of objectivism of RAND on abortion.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't find it tough. It's just is particularly
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: particularly when most abortions ninety three percent. I think the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: last figure I saw of abortions are before week twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think it's an issue. I can't even
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  Speaker 1: imagine why anybody has any concern. I kind of get
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  Speaker 1: it in the last trimester, Okay, I get your concern
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: about the last trimester. But the first twenty one weeks,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: the first twenty one weeks, it's a clump of cells
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  Speaker 1: starting to form into what will maybe become a human being.
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  Speaker 1: It's not an individual, it's not individual human life, all right.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Caleb Caleb In one of peacups America versus Americans talks,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: he argues that ideological wars can't be won by assassination
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: and suggested targeting civilian infrastructure like the fire bombing of Tokyo.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: I'd add Sherman burning Atlanta thoughts. Yeah, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: absolutely right. I agree completely with Lanard. You know, again,
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  Speaker 1: if you read my essays, I think if you read
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: I mean the source of all this. But if you
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: read John David Lewis's books on victory just look him
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  Speaker 1: up on Amazon. But also if you read the book
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Winning the Unwinnable War, which Elon Jono edited, and I
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: have three essays in it, you will see basically the
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: same argument, and you know, developed in essay form. If
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: you eat just War theory. I have an essay on
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: what was it Forward strategy for Freedom where it make
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: exactly the same case. You can't just bring people. Democracy
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't work. So yes, you have to fire them on Tokyo,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: you have to in some sense, you have to flatten Dresden.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: You have to burn Atlanta and Sherman and those other
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: generals who did that are heroes for doing it. Now
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: when it comes to Iran, this is the difference anyone.
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  Speaker 1: You have a population. Now, I don't have the intelligence reports.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how big the population is. A better
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  Speaker 1: significant number. Maybe it's a majority. I hope it's a
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  Speaker 1: majority who actually who actually want freedom, who actually want
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  Speaker 1: regime change, who actually want to overthrow this regime, want
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: ideological change, and are willing to risk their lives for it.
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  Speaker 1: We saw that in demonstrations in January. And therefore it
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: is possible that you could create the conditions for regime.
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  Speaker 2: Change without destroying civilian infrastructure suddenly, without massive targeting of
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  Speaker 2: civilians themselves.
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  Speaker 1: And that was and is the whole that could happen
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  Speaker 1: in Iran. Now, as I think the Trumpet deministation and
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: others are coming to the conclusion that it's not just
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: going to happen, you know, I don't know. I mean Trump,
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  Speaker 1: I think, is targeting civilian infrastructure now because he's aspiring
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: for your gym change. At least that's what he says,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: that he's not aspiring for it, but he's doing it
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: because he is. He wants them to open up the
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: straits of Homo's and you've used this as the best
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: way to do it. It might be, though, the case
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: that you're not going to get regime change in Iran
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: without destroying civilian infrastructure. I wish this war had been
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: better executed in the sense that you know, in the
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: first days of the war, America would have committed to
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: the opening of the Homost straits. They would have stayed open,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: the United States would have done everything in its power
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  Speaker 1: to keep them open. That would have been off the table,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: and then the entire focus should have been on regime
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: change and those actions that needed to achieve regime change.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's very possible to change the regime in
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Iran just from the air, and it might be possible
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: without bombing civilian infrastructure. And if it isn't, then bom
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: bomb the civilian infrastructure. Do whatever takes to get regime
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: change done. Now we talk about the past, There's never
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: been a war like this war. There's never been a
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: situation in which you have such dominance militarily and where
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: there are people on the ground who want regime change.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: It's just this scenario has never occurred before. So can
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: it be successful. We don't know for sure, but we
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: got to try. It could be, you know, whereas in
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Japan after washing Agasaki they surrendered, it could be that
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: the people in Iran will never surrender because of their religiosity.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: Bet you've got to try and force them to surrender.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: You know when Trump said early in the war he
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: wants unconditional surrender, that was good. That was the right attitude.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: That's what he should have sustained. No negotiations, surrender. All
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: it takes is one word, surrender. We don't need to negotiate.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: There's nothing to negotiate about. Augustine another one hundred dollars. Wow,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Augustine's one hundred and fifty bucks. Thank you, think you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. That's great. Augustine says, I thank you. Ron.
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  Speaker 1: You made me question back at twenty eighteen about the
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  Speaker 1: rights narrative. I found you on the Ben Shapiro Show,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: and I find myself listening to you more than him. Well,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That's great. I mean, Ben Shapiro is
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: incredibly articulate and motivating and has a massive audience, but
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: it is it's really inspiring that people are some people
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: are moving from him to me. Thank you, thank you,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: thank you Augustin for telling me that and letting me go,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: and of course to the one hundred dollars. I really
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: really appreciate the support. Hopefully the answer on the abortion
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: was satisfactory. He's also got another question. Let me just
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: do Augustinius. He says, you mentioned that sometimes your show
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: can get stuck in the negative news. I don't see
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: it that way. The truth is always good news. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's the biggest story
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: is ifocused on the truth, that is essentially good news.
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  Speaker 1: And then Augustinia says, yes, you're on lift up those
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: who are great, so he's supporting my call for heroism. Excellent.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, that's great. Wow, that's uh, basically two
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  Speaker 1: hundred bucks for the show. I really really appreciate it.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: You guys should step up and match Augustinia's all right,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Let's see Michael. Michael is BB being more aggressive militarily
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: because he knows another October seventh like attack occurs, he
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  Speaker 1: cannot maintain power. Well, no, because you can kick the
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  Speaker 1: can down the road and he can guarantee that there
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: won't be an October seventh like account. I think he's
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: doing it because he senses that there's being a strategic
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  Speaker 1: shift in Israeli people. I don't think this is a
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  Speaker 1: I don't think this is Nitanielle leading the people in
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  Speaker 1: a new strategic direction. I think this is Nateniel recognizing
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: that the Israeli people are demanding a new strategic direction,
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  Speaker 1: and therefore he is following. He is giving the people
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  Speaker 1: what they want. He's very good at that. So I
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: think what October seventh has done is it has woken
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  Speaker 1: up the Israeli people to the fact that kicking the
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  Speaker 1: can down the road comes back to bite you in
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: a big way. They've had enough of it, and they
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: want they want the problems solved, they want preemption. They
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: want is those enemies to know what happens if they attack.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's what's happening. So he shifted as
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  Speaker 1: I think the Israeli public are shifted. And note that
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: the opposition in Israel, the opposition parties in Israel, are
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: not opposing any of what he's doing doing right, because
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: this is what all Israelis want. They're not saying, oh,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: don't go so tough on Iran. They're not saying, oh,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: don't occupy Lebanon. They're basically supporting the government in this.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: That they're opposed to government and other things, as they should,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: but in this there's no real opposition in this. Well, yeah,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: there's some piece crazies who always, always, always will find
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: a way to diminish themselves, diminish their own and and
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: and and and and advocate for some utopian piece that
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: they imagine exists out there. But a vast overwhelming majority
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  Speaker 1: of Israelis ah do not oppose what NATANIAO is doing
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  Speaker 1: military on the military front. Jennifer, this is some neo
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  Speaker 1: put lyrics. And thank you Iran for being a real
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: hero of mine. And I appreciate that quote. So much
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: style without substance, so much stuff without style, it's hard
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: to recognize the real thing. It comes along once in
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: a while. Thank you, Jennifer. That's great lyrics. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Michael does self esteem and heroism lie in the ability
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: to avoid being drawn into emotional reactions. No, I don't
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: think so. I mean, sometimes you're going to be drawn
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: into emotional reactions. It's how you compose yourself, how you
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: deal with it, how you move forward. Sometimes you have
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: to take a break and really think about you know,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: emotions can't be overwhelming. So I think it's self esteem. Yes,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: I mean low self esteem will evoke a certain type
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: of emotional response, panic and lashing out at the people
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: bad news. But heroism often is about But you might
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: still be overwhelmed by negative emotions. It's how you deal
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: with that, how you handle it, and how you overcome
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: it and act in spite of it that makes you
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: a hero and ultimately is an indication of your self esteem.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: You don't let that emotion paralyze you. Michael, as someone
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: who passionately seeks to defend the truth, do you find
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: it difficult to be content letting someone else be wrong? Yeah?
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: I do find it difficult, although I often do it.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: It is difficult to just leave somebody alone, even if
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: they're wrong, But I do it all the time because
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: my time is too valuable to try to correct everybody's errors.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: I mean you can see it on the show on
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: the show here, where somebody will say some of the
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: chat and I get really upset. It's because it drives
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: me nuts that people can be so wrong about so
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: many things right, and I want to correct them. So
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: I deal with the chat when I probably should be
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: just ignoring it. Stephen Rpas says Alma Deutsch is also
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: a great hero for composing great romantic music, starting as
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: a young child and writing a beautiful piano concerto at twelve. Yes,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: and and I'm sure facing ridicule from the ATSI crowd,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: and and and uh and and uh, being challenged by them,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: and yet maintaining that romantic spirit into adulthood that takes
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: real courage. Will says Living Proof by Cura Peacock is
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: a kick ass portrayal of heroism within the abortion debate world.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: Worth the read. Yes, I mean Kira's. Kira's books are excellent.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed them. You should. You should check them out.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Cure peacof Living Proof is I can't remember which one
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: it is. I can't remember, but yeah, definitely worth reading.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: Molten Splendor. In preparation of discussing a subject, I often
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: refer to the iron Rand lexicon. Yes, oddly, an important word,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: especially in today's world, is missing. That word is liberty.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: Do you have any idea why that is? Yeah, I
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: mean it's captured under freedom and under rights and particularly
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: individual rights. Is the core concept that iron Rand thought
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: was the important one, the anchor one that anchored liberty.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: He is one of our rights. But at the core
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: of that is what is rights? What our rights? And
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: then of course there's only really one right, and that
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: is the right to life. Liberty is a is an
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: an application of the right to life. So I think
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: it's it's the fact that she puts so much importance
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: on rights and on you know, freedom and liberty are
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: somewhat synonymous, synonyms somewhat, and I think she I think
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: there's an entry in the lexicon on freedom. All right,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: thank you guys. Really really appreciate the support. We got
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: a few more questions. Oh, I didn't think the stick
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: of people. And you can still become a sticker person.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: You can do a stick up value for value trade. Carolina,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for the Mexican pesos. Really appreciate it.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: Let's see who else do we have here? Uh? Colina
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: as well said twice, so my just double counting. I'm
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: not sure anyway, I think I saw Wes with fifty bucks.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Wes really really appreciate it, and we got
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: Nature Nature Observer and Enrich also did stickers, and yes
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: there was Wes. All right cool. I think I got everybody,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: thank you, really appreciate the support, guys. And by the way,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: you can still do stickers. It it's simple. It's a
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: trade value for value. You listen, I produce, I get paid.
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  Speaker 1: It's easy. Oh god, on the on the on the thing,
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  Speaker 1: they're still debating abortion.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a nscenteops who also bought some.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Gifted some membership. So thank you? Is the idea of
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: discipline necessary? Isn't the concept of virtue of pride sufficient?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: I appreciate today's show for having a more positive tone. Well,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: it's always good to break down a pretty abstract concept
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: like pride or integrity into actual actions, actual sub virtues,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: if you will, that reflect what it means to have
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: those virtues. So it's it's it's for example, you sful.
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  Speaker 1: I think to think about integrity and then say, okay,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: part of integrity is to have courage, and I think
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: part of pride, and part of integrity is to have discipline.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: So I do think discipline is a cuttain perspective on pride,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: but it's a sudden perspective that emphasizes certain actions that
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: are worth emphasizing that that might be separate from other
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: actions that pride necessitates. They could be emphasized in a
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: different context. So I do think it's a good idea,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: it's a good concept. It's a good you know, subvert
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: sub virtue, not at the level of pride, but underneath it.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: And I think there are a lot of those. There
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: are a lot of those. So we have the primary virtues,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: the seven primary ones, and then we have a bunch
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: of things underneath that are applications of those virtues that
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: owe in us towards a certain way of acting. Remember
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: virtus actions, all right. Michael says, interesting that eugenics and
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: scientific racism began in America, but it never went that far,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: while in Germany took it all the way. Yes, it
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: is interesting. I think it fundamentally went against the individualistic
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: nature of this country. What is shocking is how far
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: it went in America. Now, it's not exactly that scientific
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: racism started in America. I mean, it really starts in
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: the eighteenth century in Europe and then comes to America.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: But it gets codified scientifically to a large extent in America,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: and gets very very visible in America, and a lot
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: of money is invested in it and lots of institutes
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: and journals. But it is it's going up against and look,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: it comes from the progressives. The progressives way into eugenics.
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  Speaker 1: This is why Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt. It's the
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: people who believed that part of the role of government
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: is to perfect society, to perfect mankind. And that's the progressive,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: that's the left, the status the collectivists who were primarily
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: engaged with it. Sadly, I've discovered a lot of American
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: businessmen who were engaged with the eugenics movement. That has
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: saddened me. I need to do more research about it
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: to figure out if that's all true. But it doesn't
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: look good. It doesn't look good. Roland. I highly recommend
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: the audiobook of Project Hail Mary. It's excellently presented and
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: gives you the full unabridged story. Definitely worth a listen
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: before seeing the movie. Oh too late for me, but
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: maybe some of you listen to Project Hell. Mary Roland said,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: listening to the book, I didn't get any sense of cynicism.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: It was entertaining but entirely serious about the need to
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: protect life. Yeah, this one definitely has a strong humane
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: element to it, and part of the humor comes from
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  Speaker 1: projecting the heroes cowardice. The heroes cowardice at a certain point.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it definitely has that undermining aspect to it. Frank,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Frank. Being a weak animal man survived from
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  Speaker 1: primal cunning isn't morality and religion and response the limits
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  Speaker 1: of man's cunning, isn't criticism the play of cunning at
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  Speaker 1: it's worse. Well, Being a weak animal man survives from
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  Speaker 1: primal cunning, which I consider reason using his mind isn't
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  Speaker 1: morality and religion of response the limits of man cunning.
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  Speaker 1: But what are the limits of man cunning? The limits
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  Speaker 1: of the use of man mind? There is no limits
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  Speaker 1: to them, and the need morality tells us use that cunning.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, use that reason to further your life.
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  Speaker 1: That is, don't rain in the cunning. If cunning is reason,
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  Speaker 1: don't rain in the reason. Apply it to every aspect
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  Speaker 1: of your life. Live by it. It's not only the
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  Speaker 1: way in which you survive physically, but it's the way
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  Speaker 1: in which you thrive and survive as a fully human.
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  Speaker 1: Religion is an attempt to subvert that in order to
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  Speaker 1: allow for authorities to control you. Now, Religion also is
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  Speaker 1: a way in which to try to explain the world cunning,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, reason has not been able to give answers,
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  Speaker 1: particularly in a pre scientific world. Harrison says, I think
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  Speaker 1: the most evil song I've heard before is stressed out
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  Speaker 1: by twenty one Pilots. It's one long, uninterrupted whine that
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  Speaker 1: being an adult is hard and responsibility is scary. That's
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  Speaker 1: the soul of our culture. Sadly that's true, Harrison. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait until we can make AI movies the way
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  Speaker 1: we can currently make AI music. Also, the song Built
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  Speaker 1: Not Granted is about Elon musk Cool. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: very close where we will be able to make AI
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  Speaker 1: movies the way you make AI songs. Jeff says, great
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  Speaker 1: segment of heroism you're on. Thank you, Jeff, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Carob Cobbin says, can hero worship go too far and
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  Speaker 1: be negative? Contrary to the pursuit of happiness. Well, only
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  Speaker 1: it becomes worship, real worship that is not admiration, but
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  Speaker 1: it becomes emotional and detached from reality. Only when it
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  Speaker 1: becomes such that you lose it becomes unrealistic in a sense,
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  Speaker 1: if you lose any context or any perspective on who
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  Speaker 1: on the person, the hero himself. But if it's viewing
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  Speaker 1: the heroic and admir admiring the heroic and worshiping in
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  Speaker 1: the positive sense the heroic, not the man necessarily, but
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  Speaker 1: the heroic in him, then no, I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: could go too far. It's inspiring. Rob says, you're on
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  Speaker 1: your hero Thank you, ob I really really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you. Have a great rest of you.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: I guess this is East Sunday, the day where Jesus
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  Speaker 1: Christ came back from the dead. And if you believe that,
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  Speaker 1: then you probably believe in Tucker Carlson's demons. And and
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  Speaker 1: there's a bridge I'd like to sell you. No, not really,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really want to sell you any bridge. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I figured it was a good, good counter to Jesus
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  Speaker 1: coming back from the dead to talk about real heroes,
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  Speaker 1: not superheroes like Jesus Christ what's his name? Jordan Peterson
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  Speaker 1: calls Jesus Christ the superhero for a superhero. I will
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  Speaker 1: see you on Friday. No show until Friday. I'm sorry, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I know it's tough. I don't know. You might have
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  Speaker 1: to watch some old shows of mine, maybe bring up
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  Speaker 1: some of my old talks. I don't know, but there's
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  Speaker 1: no shows for a week and now almost a week.
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  Speaker 1: Five days in five days, four days, no show, fifth day,
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  Speaker 1: WI show, see you Friday. Bye, everybody,