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Santa’s Shadow: Krampus Unleashed on Leavenworth · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten or Krampus-napped to hell.
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Yeah, there's there really is nothing quite like it.
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So they combine the two icons both showing up at your place on December 5th,
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Krampusnacht to either give you presents or you know the other stuff.
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Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's Shadow.
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Oh, yes.
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Very spooky.
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Ho ho ho, Caitlyn.
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Ho ho ho, Cassie.
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Ho ho ho, creepy people.
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I kinda like that.
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Hello.
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If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW, Haunts and Homicides,
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where we chat about true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy and ho ho ho-y,
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in the Pacific Northwest.
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That's amazing.
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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic for the week.
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So make sure you stick around if you're into that.
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Yes, and this week Cassie sounds sick, but she doesn't always.
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True.
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Well, today is, if you hadn't already guessed, a holiday themed episode.
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Woo, woo, from the window to the walls.
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Skeet, skeet.
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I loved that video, Caitlyn, just showed me the funniest fucking video ever.
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Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out how to share that.
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We're just linking.
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Yeah, we'll show notes too.
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I love it.
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Just in case.
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Yeah.
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If you don't follow us on the socials, what are you doing?
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Yeah.
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We're hilarious.
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I agree.
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I loved my stories about the dolls where I was like, it's one person's heaven and another person's hand.
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It's very true.
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I actually had a listener reach out and say they were house sitting somewhere and they were concerned about listening to that episode, you know.
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I would be too.
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All by themselves and I said, no, no, no, no, no, it's not that scary.
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It wasn't that scary.
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It wasn't that scary, but I guess, okay, so for the people who weren't editing it, there was a lot of weird sounds.
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There were some shenanigans.
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There were a lot of weird sounds and I know we were recording over the internet and they weren't using professional mics.
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But there were some creepy shit in there.
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I don't know what was happening, but mostly the editing took it out.
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There was one that I couldn't take out.
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It was like over her voice or under her voice.
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It sounded like robotic.
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It was really creepy.
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So I don't know if anyone caught that.
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Okay.
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So Cassie was the one, I think, most scared by that episode.
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And I love that for her.
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Yeah.
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In the end, I ended up being like, oh my god, I...
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Is this editing over with "I'm sick of hearing EVPs"?
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Oh my god.
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Well anyway, today is a less scary topic.
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Is this the holiday?
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You know, we got to keep it light around here.
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So...
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All right.
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Well, you know, also keeping it creepy.
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We're baubles deep into December.
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Feeling so festive with your little joke and then that song, it's just...
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It went perfectly together.
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It really did.
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It really did.
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Wow.
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So as much as I love Halloween, we all know that's not a secret.
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No.
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And I have some issues with the religious aspect of Christmas.
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You know, that's fair.
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So I've kind of switched over to kind of more saying I celebrate like yuletide or winter solstice and that kind of thing.
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But, you know, technically my whole family still celebrates Christmas and it does hold a little special place in my heart.
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I grew up with it.
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So, yeah.
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It's kind of a magical time, magical season.
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Very magical.
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Especially when I can continue to watch Nightmare before Christmas.
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Which I did last night.
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Love it.
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And Jack visiting Christmas Town is like my top favorite scenes in the movie.
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You know that.
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You've seen Nightmare before Christmas, right?
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I have.
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I have.
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It's been quite a few years.
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I've been thinking about it a lot this year that I should probably rewatch it.
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You should.
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Okay.
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So he visits Christmas Town and he's like, what's this?
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What's this?
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He's, you know, he's never seen all the glittery snow and he's all excited and that's how he filled during Christmas.
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Even though, you know, Halloween, I feel it more, I think.
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Definitely Christmas.
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Christmas is special.
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It's warm.
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Warm and fuzzy.
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Warm and fuzzy.
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Did you know that the Pacific Northwest has its very own Christmas town?
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Yes.
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Did you?
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I did.
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I didn't honestly before this.
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I didn't.
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I really did.
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It has nothing to do with Nightmare before Christmas.
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It's just, you know, they're both called Christmas Town.
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So adorable, but it's still extremely magical.
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And I think a quote from this locations website is in order.
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Of course.
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Leavenworth, Washington is a charming Bavarian village nestled in the picturesque Cascade Mountains known for its unique architectural style and festive atmosphere.
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The village transports visitors to a quaint European setting.
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The town exudes a lively ambiance throughout the year with seasonal decorations and events.
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Visitors can explore the village's charming shops and dine on Authentic German cuisine.
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Sample locally brewed beers.
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Very important.
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Excellent.
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And immerse themselves in the vibrant festivities and cultural experiences.
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It's an experience that will leave you saying, "Holy schnitzel!"
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Adorable.
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That's on their website.
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So freaking cute.
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Holy schnitzel.
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So have you been to Leavenworth?
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I have.
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Yeah.
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Is it beautiful?
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It's gorgeous.
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I've never been.
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I've been, I think it was in the fall time.
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So it wasn't like snowing, but it was on the chillier side, certainly in the evenings.
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And all of the buildings are so cute.
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It's so quaint, it does look like a little old, tiny European town.
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Oh my god, I have to go someday.
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Was it all lit up when you went?
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No, I don't think they had any of their, like, kind of seasonal stuff before Thanksgiving.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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2010, I was there.
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Oh my god, that was like a decade ago.
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Yeah.
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So they Christmas by the town and it stays lit up from Thanksgiving through February.
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So y'all still have time to go, like plenty of time.
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That's, yeah, it's quite the window.
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And they do all sorts of fun events, I'll link the website so you can go check it out.
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My mommy actually just went with her friends.
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Yeah, she said it was gorgeous.
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She sent me a couple of pictures.
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Oh good.
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And she said it was so much fun.
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And when she told me she was going, I'm going to be honest, I'd never heard of it.
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I just, I don't know, there's some things that are very popular that I've never heard about.
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Yeah.
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And this is why I'm doing the podcast.
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I can learn about them.
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That's fair.
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Also, I just realized I went in June.
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Oh.
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I did not go in the fall.
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Okay, was it cold though still?
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It was chilly in the evening.
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Yeah, for sure.
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But.
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So when she told me she was going, I looked it up and then I was actually really, really excited for her to go.
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But not for pictures of snowy mountains and lights because when I think Germany and Christmas,
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what comes to mind for me, I wanted her to be my personal Krampus paparazzi.
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Ooh.
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So the first thing I saw when I went on to the website was this little blurb on old crampy saying that the weekend closest to Krampusnacht knocked.
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Krampusnacht.
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Krampusnacht.
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December 5th.
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You might see Krampus costumes around town.
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It goes on to state that they're not having an official Krampusnacht. celebration.
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Okay.
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So quote, please plan accordingly if this is a concern.
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And I was like, huh.
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That's interesting.
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I wonder why people would be concerned about the big, lovable old Krampy-pus.
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You know?
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It certainly couldn't be his delightfully demonic appearance.
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Oh, no.
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Big and hairy with goat-like horns.
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Yeah.
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I mean, no notes.
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And a long tongue protruding out to glide across to sharp fangs.
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Okay. What about this tongue thing now that's weird.
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And of course, since he's named after the word krampen, which means claw.
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Oh.
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He has to have the perfect set of terrifying clawses.
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Ooh.
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Phalanges.
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So Krampus comes from Bavaria, Germany and Austria's Alpine region, which I assume is around the Alps.
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Yeah.
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That's exactly what it means.
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It sounds like.
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Yeah.
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I was like, I feel like that's pretty straightforward, but no, it is.
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I mean, I literally just picture.
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I don't know if this is actually accurate, but I just picture the sound of music.
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She's running through the hills because the hills are alive with music.
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Pretty sure that was based in Austria.
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And people skiing.
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Yeah.
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Definitely skiing.
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Yeah.
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And I've found since BC (before Christmas) and kicked off Yule or winter solstice as a symbol of evil.
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Working naughty children with sticks.
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Yeah.
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Eating them or just playing throwing them in a sack and dragging them to the underworld or hell, whichever you prefer.
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Great.
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I would prefer neither.
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Sounds like a fun time.
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Okay.
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I'm having second thoughts about that pillow in light of that.
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Oh.
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Be naughty, save Santa the trip.
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That's actually pretty interesting that you put that pillow out, totally relates.
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I had no idea.
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But they're kind of, they kind of go on the trip together.
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We'll talk about it.
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Yeah.
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We'll talk about it.
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Oh my God.
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So the whole dragging kids to hell thing is kind of interesting because Krampus is the son
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of Hel.
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Hey, H E L, is from Norse mythology, which I was kind of confused about how that was connected
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to Germany.
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So obviously I looked it up basically because of traveling.
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Yeah.
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The Illinois Library website says, quote, Germanic mythology is synonymous with Norse mythology.
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Anywho, Hel is the queen of the Norse realm of the dead known as Hellheim or just Hell?
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Oh.
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Sounds kind of familiar.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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And she is the daughter of Loki.
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Okay.
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We all know him, Trixi Little Trixter.
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Yeah.
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Krampus has quite the pedigree.
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Yeah.
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And literally every single thing in Judeo-Christian religions is just taken from pagan and other indigenous
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cultural and religious beliefs apparently.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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As if we weren't already aware.
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Yeah.
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But you know, you just got to drill it in.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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Okay.
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So insert Catholicism and Christianity into the mix.
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And now there is a Saint Nicholas, everyone's obsessed with.
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I guess being the patron saint of children comes with its benefits like your very own day.
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Okay.
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Nikolaustag.
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Oh my goodness.
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Not how you say it.
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Nikolaustag.
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Nikolaustag.
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Nikolaustagt.
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Nikolaustag.
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Do you need me to look it up?
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Nikolaustagt.
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It's just like the word, the letters are all weird because Nicholas is N-I-K-O-L-A-U-S and
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then T-A-G.
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Nikolaustag.
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Nikolaustag.
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Which happens to be December 6th, the day after Krampusnacht.
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Okay.
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So now all of a sudden there's a symbol of goodness to go with all the evil of Krampus.
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Super long story short.
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Catholics try to ban Krampus for being too devil-y.
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Okay.
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Like honestly who was first the devil or the Krampus?
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Right.
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That's fair.
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But eventually people decided that they liked the whole good versus evil thing and they
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wanted to keep the legend alive.
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Well, what they really wanted was for to me to take out the trash and, uh, yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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That's where I'm going with that.
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And hey, it keeps kids in line better than just getting a lump of coal, right?
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There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten, eaten or Krampus-napped to hell.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's, there really is nothing quite like it.
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So they combine the two icons, both showing up at your place on December 5th, Krampusnacht
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to either give you presents or, you know, the other stuff.
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Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's shadow.
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Oh, yeah.
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Spooky.
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Very spooky.
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Okay.
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So you remember Leavenworth in the Krampus Sighting Warning?
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Yeah.
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There's actually a reason for that.
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In 2020, a volunteer-based nonprofit quote, “Troupe of Thespians bringing the traditional
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Austrian Krampus folklore to America, known as Krampus Seattle."
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Ooh.
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They took to the snowy streets of Leavenworth for a Krampuslauf, which is basically a Krampus
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cosplay parade.
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Hello.
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They actually have very beautifully-made masks and costumes and stuff.
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It's really cool.
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That sounds amazing.
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I, goals is to see a Krampuslauf in person.
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Wow, wow, wow.
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I kind of joke that I was going to come show up as Krampus today because I looked so terrible.
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It's on theme.
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The people seemed to love it and the town's event organizers officially invited them back
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the next year and promoted the Kramp out of it.
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I love that.
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From the Krampus enthusiast perspective, the event went great, but three was not the
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charm in this case and they were not invited back for 2022.
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Oh, no, why?
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I'll tell you.
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Oh, no.
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A crosscut.com article says, "Community leaders were pressured by a small but vocal group who
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objected to the Krampus Seattle group last year, arguing that their presence didn't mesh
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with the events and the friendly reputation."
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What?
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Okay, but also culturally that's definitely in the correct vibe, right?
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And it's like it's one day.
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Come on.
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God.
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To which I say, a new breed of Karen was born and that is the Krampus Karen, Krampus Karen,
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the Krampus Karen's Unite.
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Yeah.
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So, ultimately, people are allowed to come dressed up, but not in any official events organized
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by 11 worth leaders.
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So that is why there is a warning to plan accordingly if you don't want to see the Krampus,
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don't fucking come on Krampusnacht.
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Seriously.
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But it's sad.
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They can't have their big old fun Krampuslauf.
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What was it?
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Krampuslauf party?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But, Seattle Krampus is not wallowing.
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They have plenty of other events to attend, including Santa Con, which I didn't really know
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was a thing, but that sounds fun.
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Yeah.
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Enjoying other Krampus groups for the huge Krampusnacht celebration in downtown Bremerton,
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Washington, where the event was received with open arms.
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Open...claws?
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Open claws.
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Yeah.
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They even have a list of fun, themey things to attend in the town, like a naughty versus
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nice wrestling match between Santa and Krampus.
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Stop it.
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That happened last night, actually.
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I am obsessed.
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Next year we have to go.
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We're going.
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That sounds really fun.
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I'm not a huge, like, wrestling fighting.
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I don't really like that kind of stuff, but if it's Santa versus Krampus, I probably
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will watch it.
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I mean, come on.
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Oh my God, I just had a flashback.
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Do you remember that, like, clay-mation wrestling show?
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Oh my God.
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It was like on MTV.
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I hold on.
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I will look it up.
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Celebrity Death Match.
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Yes.
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Oh my God.
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That show is so fun.
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That's what this reminds me of.
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Yeah.
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It's definitely...it's giving celebrity Death Match.
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Definitely.
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I wonder if they had a Krampus Santa episode of that.
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Ooh.
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They should have.
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We're going to investigate that.
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Oh.
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They did have a Jerry Seinfeld versus Tim Allen.
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Oh.
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And Tim Allen played Santa Claus.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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Jerry Seinfeld could be Krampus.
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I love that for him.
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So now I have a quote from Erin Hale in this.
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This is from the KrampusBremerton.com.
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Krampus now challenges the Christmas Capitalistic Pressure to somehow match Santa's mythological
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generosity.
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What if we simply celebrated the good gratitude and greatness in each other instead?
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What if Krampus is here to be celebrated as a reminder that we have the choice to be
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kind, patient, and compassionate?
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Oh.
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I like that.
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I know.
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I think that perfectly sums up kind of what Krampus is about because he is scary, but it is
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cool to kind of have that the opposite ends, like showing you what really bad is and showing
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you what really good is.
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Right.
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This is a reminder.
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But now some people say Krampus is getting just as popular and commercialized as Santa.
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With places like the Peculiarium hosting mocktails with Krampus, Saturday, December 23rd,
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stop it.
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Or Raven's Manor having a themed menu featuring the Krampus Martini.
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Ooh.
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Designed for the icy Germanic demon himself.
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Oh, yes.
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Krampus cookies.
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6.66 ounces of chocolate chip wither without walnut.
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Served with a cold glass of milk or almond milk.
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And if you need a little more of a hearty meal, order up the child stew in a bread bowl.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Literally have.
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There's something called child stew and I fucking died.
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It's just like, how do you order that?
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You know?
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I think I would just say, I'd like the stew, please.
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Childless stew.
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Also fun fact about me.
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I love bread bowls.
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I do too.
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So fucking.
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So incredible.
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Like sourdough bread bowl.
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Nothing better.
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I will eat the entire bread bowl.
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Yeah.
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Don't test me.
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Yeah.
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I would never.
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They also have a Grinch drink, which I had to bring up because I'm wearing my Grinch
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sweater today.
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Hello.
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And it's green.
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Got rain.
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I want to go get it.
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So this brings me to our last little bit here.
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We visited the Kampus.
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We'll set up through the veil.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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That feels like a lifetime ago.
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I know.
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We took a bunch of photos.
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Chris took our photos.
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Thank you, Chris.
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Thank you, Chris.
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And we had little Christmas cards made from them that we're sending to our Patreon.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Happy Patreon holidays.
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Yeah.
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You get a holiday card.
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We're calling it a holiday card because everyone celebrates Christmas.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that'll be fun.
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They're really cute.
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Yeah.
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They turned out super cute.
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Yeah.
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So if you're in town, go visit over there, visit Krampus, check out all of the amazing stuff
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that they have in the store.
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Like I can't even.
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Yeah.
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Actually, this is one of my purchases from...
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Oh yeah, it is.
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Yeah.
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And we also have a couple other purchases we made there.
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We got little mystery tarot cards.
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And the one I ended up opening it in the store because you can either leave it on their
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altar and like write, write a wish on it or something that you want and leave it on
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their altar.
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So that was my plan.
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And then I opened it and I got the double card, which eerily kind of looks like Krampus.
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It has a very long protruding tongue and horns.
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I cannot.
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I cannot.
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So I had to take it with me, of course.
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And it has like the back of the card kind of looks very Christmasy, kind of like literally
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just notice that today.
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So it was totally perfect. We brought it to put on our altar today to show off because
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it was just too...the Krampus connection was too much.
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It's just too good.
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And then Caitlyn has her mystery tarot.
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I think she wants to open it today too.
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Yeah.
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So we'll do that and we'll pull a card from my nightmare before Christmas deck for the
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tarot reading and that will be that.
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You guys were back!
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And don't worry, we did get more wine.
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Well, of course.
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Okay, before tarot, we're doing things.
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We're doing things.
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Okay.
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What are we opening, Caitlyn?
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We have so many fun things to open.
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We have not checked our PO box for a little while.
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So we have an atorabal Halloween postcard that we received.
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But it's so cute.
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I know.
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I'm going to read it.
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Please do.
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It's spooky season.
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Thank you both so much for your excellent podcast.
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Your banter, wit, and excellent storytelling is a highlight of my week.
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Stay spooky.
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From Danny.
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Oh, thank you, Danny.
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You wanna...
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I love this because I was just talking about how I love Christmas.
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But I love Halloween.
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And there's something Halloweeny.
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Oh, I love Halloweeny.
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Okay.
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And then I already opened this one because I knew who it was going to be from.
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Because I recognize the handwriting.
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So this came from True Crime, Cat Lawyer.
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Oh, Hi Elyse.
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Oh, Winston.
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Oh, Winston.
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We love her.
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Yeah.
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So flipping cute.
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And she sent us a little sticker peac.
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Of course she did.
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She's always so good with the stickers.
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I know.
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Look at this little Christmas Winston.
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It's adorable.
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Oh, I love it.
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I really want Winston on the pod.
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I know.
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I know.
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So many things.
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And we have this.
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What's that?
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This came from Caitlin.
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Caitlyn, who?
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Not me.
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Hi, Caitlin.
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Oh, this is so cute.
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Happy holiday.
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Got that Lumberjack plaid on there.
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Right?
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It's not Lumberjack plaid, but all plaid is Lumberjack to me.
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Okay.
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I'm going to read this to you.
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Caitlyn and Cassie.
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What's up?
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Thank you for everything you have done to help me this year.
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I look forward to helping you both in the future to gain more viewers.
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Also, I look forward to doing something together in person, which we are working on.
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Yeah.
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I'm so excited.
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I love meeting everybody.
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I know.
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Literally.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I love people.
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I know I would say people, but I love my people.
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Yeah.
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No, that's the difference.
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Anyways, hope you enjoy your gifts.
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Happy holidays, Caitlin.
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Yes.
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Oh my gosh.
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My eyes are tearing up.
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I'm not crying.
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She's not crying, though.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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Oh my god.
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What?
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Okay.
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There's candy cans.
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Yes.
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And there's two little wrapped things in here.
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Okay.
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One has tarot cards on it and one has a Ouija board.
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So I feel like the tarot cards might be for you.
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That feels on brand.
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Oh my god.
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Is this a sucker?
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Yes.
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This is the cutest fucking thing I've ever seen.
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We'll take closer pictures.
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Oh my god.
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Where did you get this?
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Oh my god.
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I am obsessed.
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Mine's blackberry pear.
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Ooh.
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Ooh.
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Oh yeah.
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I did see the Skittles right on top.
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So those are already gone.
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Oh my gosh.
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This is so cute.
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Stop it.
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A tarot card.
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Scented bath bomb.
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Oh my god.
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Yours is so cute.
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Look at this.
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Ooh.
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It's so excited for this.
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What is your scent?
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Um, a biscuit.
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I love a biscuit.
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What's yours?
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Rose.
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Do we need a trade?
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What do you want?
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I love Rose.
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Thank you, Kate.
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I was.
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We traded.
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Oh my gosh.
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I'm taking a bath like tonight.
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I don't have a tub, but I will find one.
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I have a tub.
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I actually do.
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Okay.
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I'm house sitting.
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So I do have access to a tub.
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Actually, this is perfect.
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This is so perfect.
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I'm so excited.
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I all have a tub, Kate.
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I'm so excited.
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I'm going to take a video.
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So excited.
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Yeah.
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I was just going to say.
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Oh my gosh.
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Okay.
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What else is in here?
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh.
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Self-care thing.
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Oh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh.
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Self-care thing.
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Oh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh.
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Self-care thing.
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and a boob mask! I love this! It has bows for your tea toss. This is amazing. I'm gonna smear
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this all over my boobs and butt and it's gonna be great. We're not gonna take pictures of that.
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Oh my god! This is amazing! I'm so excited. Thank you so much, Caitlin. You're literally the fricken
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sweetest. That was excitement. Should we do our little tarot? Okay. Are we gonna do my envelope
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tarot? Do your mystery first. You're just gonna break open a candy cane right now. I know.
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Ooh! What is it? That's the backside of the car. Hey girl! Cute skulls? Five of pentacles.
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Dropping that money. Oh no! Is it not good? Yeah, the five of pentacles is that's throwing away
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money. That's misleading. Oh! Look at the... Can you see that? Oh, that's right. I do remember that one.
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Wasn't that a Christmas episode too? That we got that. It was the train wreck one. I don't know if
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that was Christmas, maybe it was the train wreck snowy one. Yeah. That is okay. So it's a snowy
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car. That's interesting. Maybe it just relates to this episode, you know? Oh my god, it does.
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Okay. I found it already. Often this car depicts a couple or a family in an attitude of humility,
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poverty or hardship. Their desperation and suffering are evident. Sometimes a stained glass
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church window appears above them, which indicates emphasizing spiritual values over material ones.
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Oh, okay. Wow. It's not just a season about stuff. Yeah. That was a big part of this episode,
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because Krampus represents the commercialization of Christmas. I cannot believe that. You got a
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Krampus and I got a card that was like, "Hey, maybe don't make everything about stuff." Wow,
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that's really cool. I love that. There you go. Okay. Oh, I got the lovers. Stop it. We did. That's so fun.
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It was Christmasy, but yeah, it was technically in reverse when I looked at it, but I just felt like
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it was in, I flipped it and that's how it was. So it's in upright for me. Okay. In my brain.
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Lovers, Missilto. I know I feel so bad. I wanted to get some Missilto and I just
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I thought about it once and it went out of my brain and I forgot my Missilto headband, but I
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wore that Missilto headband to kiss Krampus in the pictures. It did. That's so cute.
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All I want for Christmas is Krampus or Krampus. Yeah. Okay. So, oh, this is interesting. Cassie, our key
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words are partnership union of opposites. Oh, partnership like Santa and Krampus union of opposites.
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Look at us. I know. We're so witchy. Choices, harmony, cooperation, choices, choice between good
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and evil. Yeah. Cooperation. Don't be naughty and get beaten by Krampus with sticks. Yeah.
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Yeah. The lovers card usually shows a man and woman, but they're the similarities and in some
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decks, they're naked in others, they're clothes. Some decks show the couple touching, even engaged in
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a passionate embrace, whereas others place them on opposite sides of the card, perhaps with a
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winged being overlooking them. Alla, garden of Eden. There's that. The winged beings are back.
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You'll even find decks that present three people on the card as if a third party who might be a
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young person or an older parental figure is influencing their relationship like a Krampus card.
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Oh, or like a child influencing, you know, which is going to be either way. Although many people
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interpret this card as representing romantic love, it's really about the union of opposites,
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your own dual nature. Wow. This is so cool. I love this. That doesn't rule out romance in your future
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if the lovers shows up in a reading. It just means union has many meanings other than male female
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coupling. Yeah, it does. And trusting. Okay, so let's do our upright interpretation. I also just
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got a flash of Krampus and Santa wrestling. I love that. This is a card of cooperation, of working
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together with others to accomplish a joint purpose. A joint purpose. You're not even the stoner.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're allegedly. We've got some ideas.
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When it appears upright, it signifies an attraction and partnership of some kind, not only the
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romantic variety. It can also suggest you're uniting disparate parts of yourself. The lovers
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represents a period of harmony in personal or professional matters. Sometimes it indicates
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you need to make a choice between two things you value, but you'll make the right decision.
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Or you'll get dragged to hell. I was like, I'm just going to wait for it. Or put into stew.
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In a reading about money, you can profit from combining your resources with someone else's.
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That's amazing. Sometimes the lovers symbolizes benefiting from a partner's money or marrying into
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wealth. I got this card recently for someone else that I was doing a reading for. And I was like,
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oh, yeah, you did. If you're seeking a financial backer, this card gives you a thumbs up.
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If the reading is about your job, this card represents a time of cooperation, contentment, and harmony.
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Joint projects are favored now. Two forces have united toward a common goal.
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The lovers can also signify meeting a partner through work or working through
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working with a romantic partner in business.
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Krampus Santa. Yeah. This is Claus. Watch out. This is Claus. This is Claus. What if Mrs. Claus is crampus?
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I don't know. Every picture I've seen of her is like a cute little old grandma in disguise. What if she
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comes out as crampus? I love this conspiracy theory that I just created. She cooked that up right
38:29
click. That was that's something. Mrs. Claus doesn't even have a first name. You know what I mean? We just
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call her Mrs. Claus. We need to look into that. Does she have a first name? Like, is there any mythology
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there where she is? There's got to be, right? Yeah. I mean in the claymation one where he meets her,
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she has a name, but I don't remember what it is. Okay. Well, anyway, put a pin in that
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in a reading about love, this card boats well for a romantic relationship. It shows mutual caring
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and attraction, a rewarding partnership that brings out the best in both people. Sometimes it means
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a decision in connection with a love relationship. Yeah. This whole thing is just like, I good versus
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evil, Krampus, Santa. Like, yeah, their whole relationship. That's so cool. I just realized there's
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a card on the ground. What? There's a card on the ground. Holy shh. Holy schnitzel. Holy schnitzel.
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It's the five of presents. So yeah, I'm very curious. I guess it just fell down when I was doing
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something or other. Five of pinnacles in my... Oh yeah. Oh, is presents pinnacles? What do we decide?
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I don't remember. That would be weird. I would not be surprised though. Yeah, candles would be ones.
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Presence would be pinnacles, needle swords, push and scuops. Wow! This is just on the floor. Five
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five presents. We don't even need to read it because we read it already. Wow. But I don't know when it
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looks like presents. That is so... Yeah, I cannot believe that. That is really cool. I wonder if you could
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see it in the video when it fell out. Oh, I don't know. I probably think they're gonna fall off the bottom
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or something. Yeah, that's so cool. What are the odds that we buy two little tarot readings
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out through the veil? And one of them looks like crampus. One of them is five of... I pentacles.
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And then this other five pinnacles drops out. Weird. Okay. People are gonna literally...
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They're gonna be thinking we're making this up. I just... They watched it. I mean, we didn't...
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I'm always afraid that people are gonna be like, "Woooo!" Well, and if you want to see, I pulled this
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card out in a video and I put it with the little reel and TikTok I made for the through the veil
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episode. Yeah, that's right. And I pulled it out. So that was me literally opening it right there.
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I feel like are we gonna have conspiracy theories about our terrestrial beings? I hope so. Can we
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start a Reddit thread on the conspiracy theory for us? Maybe. I really don't want that because
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they're so good. Like they're really right on. I... That's why I want it to be like so above board
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that people know they're real. Yeah. They do. Oh, this is so cool. I need a candy cane and a nap.
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Drink. We have to open gifts still. Oh, oh my god. Yeah. So let's end it for normal people. And then
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we're gonna continue opening gifts for our Patreon. Okay. Have a creep miss crampus not.
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With a bunch of ass. There was no ass in there. All the all the Krampus ass. All the ass.
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Kramp ass. Kramp ass. Kramp ass. How did I put no Kramp ass jokes in my... in my episode? I don't know.
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I'm sick. That's what happens. I'm surprised this reading turned out so good. How sick I am too.
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I know. Well, I shuffle the shit out of those cards. Well, you were... you held this together. Mine
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was from the past. So past healthy Cassie. Pulled the right card. Well, and this one. Oh, I mean,
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that was weeks ago. Yeah. Did I pick that for you or you picked it? No, I... I think you... Yeah, you...
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specifically brought me. Yeah. The bowl of the cards and we're like, pick yours. Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay, well, let's open these presents. Who is first?
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[Music]
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[Music]
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Germanic mythology is synonymous with North. North Musa. Musa, Judy. I mean, it's a shoe face. Oh my
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God. North mythology. It's that it's the... Yeah. You know, North mythology. North. You said
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well. I know. I was like, "Damn it." I know. Okay. Hel is the queen of the North. My God.