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Brittany Carney - Trying to write about Spirals · Bug Hive with Benny Feldman

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  What's up, dog?
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  >> Hi. Nothing much. How are you?
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  >> I'm good. Good. I realized I just drank
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  I drank a bunch of water and I've got it
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  all in my mustache.
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  >> Oh,
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  >> but starting off hot. Starting off
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  >> It's like going into milk mustache in
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  between.
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  >> It's like good for your follicles.
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  >> That's true. What's new with you?
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  >> Oh, um, what is new with me? Uh,
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  uh, I don't know. Summertime. Summer.
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  I've been on the road a little bit. Um,
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  I've been traveling. I feel like
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  something just happened, but I'm not
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  >> like in in your world.
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  >> In my like professional world. Anyway,
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  mostly I'm mostly I I moved in May to a
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  new apartment that I'm really enjoying.
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  And I'm
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  >> Hell yeah.
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  >> Really?
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  >> You and I used to be neighbors.
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  >> Yeah, we used to be neighbors. And then
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  >> we would see each other at a coffee shop
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  sometimes.
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  >> Yes. And I'm still in that realm.
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  >> Oh, so you moved around in that realm. I
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  used to live where we are currently. I
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  used to be
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  >> Yes. Um,
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  >> talk to me though.
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  >> Yeah. Yeah. I was I used to be I just
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  give her exact address and phone number
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  and social security. I used to live
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  around here and now I live closer to
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  where we used to live, but in a new
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  place. And I've been really enjoying
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  that all summer. Like that's been a big
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  part of my summer. and um
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  um going on the road.
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  >> Cool. Yeah. Hell yeah.
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  >> And are you doing an hour on tour and
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  [ __ ] like that?
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  >> Yeah. Yes.
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  >> Nice.
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  >> I'm about to do that in New Orleans. I
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  just did that in Kentucky.
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  >> Hell yeah. Although
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  >> and I'll dive in immediately now we're
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  talking uh vague abstractions. I love
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  your stuff.
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  >> Wow. Thank you, Benny. That means so
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  much.
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  >> Cool voice. cool unique perspective in
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  the space.
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  >> Wow. Thank you. That means a lot coming
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  from you.
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  >> I appreciate it. We had a lot of fun uh
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  at that Hoboken bookstore show. That was
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  fun.
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  >> Yeah, I think Oh, wait. That was really
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  fun. I I really like that kind of
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  cultural show. Like I love crunchy
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  boomers.
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  I mean, it wasn't all I feel like it was
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  pretty kind of mixed, but I mean a lot
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  of people like older than 50. I love
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  that, frankly. And it was
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  >> let's fill in the folks with the vibe.
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  >> And I think that I was like that was
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  such a zany somehow. We were being so
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  zany in the in the green room was like
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  the children's section of this
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  bookstore. I feel like we were being
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  really silly but I don't remember what.
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  >> Well, it's like a we got like plushies
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  for kids that are like book related and
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  we're putting them on our head and we're
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  taking pictures.
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  >> Oh, right.
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  We're like, we had alcohol, so yeah, we
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  had one.
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  >> That's the first show I've drank on um I
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  think. Okay.
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  >> Oh, really?
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  >> Either.
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  >> Oh, really?
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  >> Or I drank one other time in
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  Philadelphia and I drank so much I am
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  not sure if that happened.
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  >> Wait, you don't drink at all at shows?
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  >> Never. Yeah. Yeah. Except for that.
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  Except for the time with you at Hobo.
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  >> I'm trying to think. That's a good
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  That's good. I feel like I'm
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  >> The other one was Philly. I think I got
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  drunk after an open mic, but I don't
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  remember if it was Well, I had I had a
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  few beers and I can't remember if I did
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  them if I had them before or after going
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  on stage cuz I had a few beers.
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  >> I think it's a good like Yeah. Yeah.
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  Right. Um
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  >> Do you drink on
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  >> Yeah, I do. I frankly I like it, but I
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  feel like I it's I I should it should
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  not be a habit. Like I think I should
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  um do it less frequently. Like I like to
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  have
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  >> I love the feeling of having like half a
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  glass of wine or something. And I used
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  like um I used to
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  like I went through this whiskey era.
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  This was back in DC whiskey on on like
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  bringing it up on stage and like
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  >> I mean just kind of generally this was
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  like in my later 20s and I was like and
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  that was you know now 40 years ago. At
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  some point like when I was a few years
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  into open mics in DC I just sort of
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  decided as a woman that I was going to
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  get into whiskey. So and I kind it kind
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  of worked. I like there was this one bar
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  in DC that was sort of like fem coated
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  but served with specialized whiskey. So
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  then I would order a lot of whiskey
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  sodas with lemon and I really think that
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  I over like I like it's not like I
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  overdid it on one particular night. It's
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  just that eventually I got really sick
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  of the taste or I found found too
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  sugary. So now if I have one in general
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  I the taste of whiskey will often take
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  me very specifically back to starting
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  stand comedy and I think it's generally
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  a good habit that I'm not drinking
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  whiskey every day but um I like having
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  wine in a show but I feel like um then
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  then there is a nice feel I don't know
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  cuz I feel loose but then also sometimes
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  it'll make you tired or cloudy and maybe
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  that's like or one and then um recently
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  I've and into having a
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  Red Bull. Just a Red Bull.
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  >> Just a Red Bull. Not like a Red Bull
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  vodka. Like
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  >> I have had that before
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  >> really,
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  >> but if I don't feel like drinking or if
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  I'm like, you know, like going to
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  another spot right after, I'll just have
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  a Red Bull because I drink a lot of
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  coffee that I don't think coffee affects
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  me. But I like Red Bull cuz even if
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  psychosmatically
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  I get like a like a
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  >> Yeah. to see you on a Red Bull on stage.
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  I'd love to see you on a Red Bull
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  violent
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  energy performance.
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  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I understand that.
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  >> Um
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  >> like Well, you've got some stuff. I
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  mean, like, uh you're Okay. What I like
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  about you is you're exploring topics
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  that uh people aren't necessarily
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  exploring. And then I like it. Like
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  you're doing you're doing fractal
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  material. You're doing uh Rome,
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  >> like ancient Rome. It's cool. And like
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  like
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  >> I maybe a mutual shared thing. Um I'm
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  not doing that much like on the apps
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  type stuff. Uh
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  >> you mean like dating?
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  >> Yeah. Or orally?
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  >> Oh, you mean like comedically you're not
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  >> or like Yeah, I understand. Yes. No. No.
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  I was like I get it. I get it. I get it.
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  Yeah.
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  >> Yeah. Yeah. There's a there's a lot of
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  um right
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  >> a lot of comedy topics that people are
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  like all right well what is my take on
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  >> this thing in culture or is that guys
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  right
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  >> yeah yeah yeah and I like how you're not
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  doing that
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  >> and you're not doing it
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  >> right and uh hell yeah
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  >> yeah hell yeah
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  >> [ __ ] yeah
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  >> hell yeah
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  >> I think it's like
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  >> I don't know
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  >> I struggle maybe I don't know how do you
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  feel this but I struggle to like I'm
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  really bad about writing getting jokes
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  like
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  >> not bad about it I just mean what's the
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  right wording here I mean like I'm not
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  very skilled at it like I think that
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  I have a few jokes about I have one joke
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  about something that happened that's
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  like related to like a man but so I
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  guess in theory it's about dating but
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  it's like more like a specific thing
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  >> that well I've got dating adjacent stuff
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  >> right that's how I feel I struggle with
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  writing a joke that's like about dating
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  on the apps or something that's actually
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  that I care about or is in my voice and
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  it's okay I find that material about
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  that to be really funny if it's funny
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  and I enjoy it, you know, like from
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  others.
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  But yeah, I like I've never had I've
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  never been able to write relationship
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  material very well or just dating Joe
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  unless it's like something
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  >> maybe maybe you'll feel this way. Uh my
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  two thoughts are because so many people
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  are in that space. It's hard to find a
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  necessarily a new thing. Maybe maybe
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  that's
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  >> Yeah, that's interesting. Right. But
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  then the other side of it is um I
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  remember dating this person and they
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  were like, "Please never make jokes
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  about me on stage." And I'm like, "Okay,
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  well if you talk about dating on stage,
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  people are worried about dating you."
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  >> You know what I mean? Because then
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  they're like, "I'm going to be m people
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  don't want to be material."
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  You know what I mean?
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  >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
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  Right. Huh. Right. And I also find Yeah.
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  I've had people I've dated tell me that.
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  But I also kind of am like I'm not
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  trying to write a joke about you by the
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  way, but also sometimes it's
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  organically. Yeah. Like who do you think
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  you are?
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  >> Weird as hell.
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  >> But that organic I'm trying to What's an
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  example?
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  >> Um
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  >> like one What's an example? Uh I don't
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  know. I'm like blanking. Like one time
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  like I was this ended up being a
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  two-year relationship. at the beginning
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  of it, he um
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  like made my bed really nicely like
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  while I was gone and I like noted that
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  and so I I made a quick joke about that
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  but it wasn't really about him or
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  anything or like
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  >> Yeah, freaked me out.
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  >> I know. Exactly. It kind of freaked me
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  out.
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  >> Like I wouldn't want that. I'd be like
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  I'd be like,
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  >> but maybe I know especially there's
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  something about maybe it's like kind of
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  gendered but it's still kind of freaked
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  me out cuz this maybe it's a little bit
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  gendered right where it's like
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  >> okay thanks daddy like but also it's
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  like huh
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  like uh thank you
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  >> necessary I don't know
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  >> I mean cooking cooking for someone it's
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  like yeah you can then eat the food like
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  making their bed it is like brother we
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  don't need to that was not a necessary
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  gesture Exactly.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> So, or like right now I have a
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  >> joke about somebody
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  I won't talk more in depthly in depth
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  about the joke, but it's just that
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  somebody like I saw his [ __ ] like he
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  didn't flush it in his face. Does that
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  make sense?
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> So, like in theory that's about dating
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  cuz that was on a a date of sorts. But
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  the joke is like about that. I guess
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  that's kind of like or yeah and that
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  happened in September and then now I've
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  only now kind of figured out how to make
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  it into a bit. But then
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  >> also separately um
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  like
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  I don't know if I have a if I'm in a
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  relationship relationship and I have
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  material about it. I have to cough.
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  Excuse me. I have tuberculosis. I don't
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  I just um Okay. So, uh, um,
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  >> if you're in a long-term thing, it's
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  >> then, sorry,
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  >> you don't want to
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  >> I find it easier to write a joke about
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  it later, like after I've had a lot of
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  time to process.
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  >> No, that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, um,
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  >> because the emotions are fresh in that
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  moment. And also, it's like talking
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  about on stage, if you're in something
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  can [ __ ] up the vi you're not trying to
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  process.
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  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right.
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  >> Yeah. Yeah.
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  >> And I think the audiences can kind of
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  People can tell. I used to You ever go
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  to Mike's and like
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  >> if people there's like uh comedians who
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  are dating and then they do like
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  material about
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  >> Oh, yeah. You see them like do it
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  passive aggressively and you're like,
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  "Oh, you're going to break up."
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  >> Yeah. I think that really happens.
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  >> I've seen that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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  >> Benny, you said no gossiping.
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  >> I'm not say I'm not naming names and
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  this is years ago,
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  >> right?
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  >> Okay. So, uh, I guess in terms of like
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  topic choice. Oh, no worries. No, you're
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  good. As long as you cough elsewhere.
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  >> Yeah. Not not to your mouth. Okay.
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  Sorry. Excuse me. Um, what were you
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  saying? What did I say?
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  >> Um, just the idea of like
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  >> how do you pick in a topic to like talk
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  about like like you like like oh I want
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  to talk about uh do you have a Gollum
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  bit?
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  >> Yeah, I do.
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  >> What's the golem? I'd like it. I forget
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  what it is. We both have a Gollum bit. I
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  have like I have like one and a half or
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  two.
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  >> You've got a gallon bit and a little bit
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  of a smleg bit.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Excuse me folks. Um
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  >> folks,
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  >> um
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  uh Okay, sorry. I have an old golem.
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  >> Please with myself smile when I made
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  that joke. I feel like I went anyway.
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  Sorry. You have an old go. Um I have an
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  old one.
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  No, no. I think it's just that when it
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  was like starting like when I was a few
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  years and I was in DC, I had some
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  reference to Gollum regarding like my
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  body like the and Oh, I had a buzz cut.
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  So, I looked kind of crazy like I looked
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  like
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  >> Gollum.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> I mean, not but like uh you know cuz I
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  kind of was like sometimes I'll like if
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  I'm feeling physical on stage I'll be
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  like kind of bendy or something. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and that and I
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  have like
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  >> my eyes I don't even think I realized
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  this until I was years into comedy that
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  I like bulg my eyes sometimes and so I
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  like um just kind of so I had the some
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  some reference to go years ago but I
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  actually kind of forgot what the wording
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  was. It was just that like something
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  about my body language I related myself
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  to Gollum or like or like like I had a
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  lot of jokes about how I looked like
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  Obama cuz I really did. I was just like
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  I dressed more adjunist and I had a bus
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  cut. And then the more recent joke about
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  Gollum is that um I'm like just making
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  fun of the fact that there's black
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  people in the new Lord of the Rings
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  series just cuz it's like which
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  obviously I think is cool but like
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  whatever representation but I'm just
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  kind of making fun of it because it's
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  like
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  >> oh what? Yeah. Wait, what? Um, oh, at
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  long last, uh, the diaspora has spread
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  to the Shire and then and then, um,
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  >> that voice.
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  >> Oh,
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  >> thank you. Um,
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  >> I promise I sell it more on stage. Okay.
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  So, um, something something. It's like,
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  uh, what what the [ __ ] is a joke?
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  >> Black Gollum. And then you would do an
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  act out.
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  >> I do like really deaf jam style. No,
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  it's just about how um
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  >> something about
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  >> Sorry, not okay. I'm not going to do any
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  voice, but something in the space of how
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  Bernie Mack goes, I love [ __ ] they
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  sell by the pound, but it's or they
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  should sell by the pound. It's it's
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  Gollum talking about the ring in a dev
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  jam.
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  I love the ring.
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  >> I love that. Yeah.
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  >> Um the the line is about how they should
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  make Gollum a woman like I won't rest
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  until like if it's about progress and
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  representation, like I won't rest until
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  um they finally make Gollum a woman of
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  color. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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  >> And then I say I I'm seeking employment
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  and then I like do some of an act out.
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  >> Oh, hell yeah.
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  >> That's a that's like the recent
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  iteration of it, I guess.
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  >> Yes. Yes. That's how I that I'm was
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  riffing on the joke that I was
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  subconsciously of making.
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  >> And it's drawn a lot of not a lot of
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  drawn medium to light attention from
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  people who are really into the Lord of
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  the Rings universe or black or like
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  science fiction conversations in general
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  or fantasy conversations. And I have to
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  confess, I'm not really steeped like
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  that. I just kind of like had that
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  observation. But I don't mind that the
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  people coming to me like talking to me
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  about that, you know?
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Like I'd rather I'd rather that be my
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  audience.
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  >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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  >> And that's a fun that's a fun audience.
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  That's a fun
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  >> zone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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  >> I guess the larger question um being we
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  got like how how are you deciding what
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  to write about?
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  >> Oh, right. Sorry. I know that's sort of
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  stupidly close.
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  >> Wait, are we supposed to be engaging
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  this?
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  >> Yeah, whatever. Who the [ __ ]
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  >> can I now? Wait, were you going to
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  announce it?
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  >> Do it. No, no, no. I don't No, I don't
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  give a [ __ ] No, no, no. Um,
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  >> I want to do
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  >> any Yeah. What arts and crafts that
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  speaks to you?
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  >> This is good. This is good for ADHD. Um,
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  >> what speaks to you?
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  >> Okay. So, yeah. How do I think of like
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  premises or material? Is that such a
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  stupidly Well, it's not I'm not because
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  I'm not asking like how you write jokes
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  as much as or or like or any of that,
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  but I'm more uh my question is like um
• 15:41
  are you deliberate about like topic
• 15:42
  choice? Are you like I want to write a
• 15:44
  joke about ancient Rome
• 15:45
  >> sometimes. Sometimes yes sometimes
• 15:47
  though that doesn't work like right now.
• 15:49
  >> Yeah.
• 15:51
  >> What's an example of that? Like right
• 15:52
  now
• 15:53
  >> [ __ ] I'm trying to write a I know I know
• 15:56
  it's cuz I'm cursed. This is like a
• 15:58
  curse. So I like
• 16:01
  try. Okay. Because I just realized that
• 16:03
  I have a lot of material right now that
• 16:05
  have to do with like things that are
• 16:06
  spirals, like just generally like things
• 16:08
  in the world. So, I'm trying to like
• 16:10
  kind of anchor my hour around that. But
• 16:13
  I also now feel like I'm I'm like
• 16:15
  shoehorning ideas into this framework,
• 16:18
  which I don't know. I was feeling like
• 16:20
  like for example,
• 16:22
  I last time I just kind of did an hour
• 16:24
  of new stuff at Union Hall. I was doing
• 16:26
  some No, this was two months ago. I was
• 16:29
  trying to do um
• 16:32
  stuff about like duck dicks, like duck
• 16:35
  penises are spirals,
• 16:37
  >> which I didn't have a joke about that. I
• 16:39
  just had jokes about other things about
• 16:40
  that. You want to hear a joke about
• 16:41
  that?
• 16:41
  >> You do?
• 16:42
  >> I do.
• 16:42
  >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. What's the joke?
• 16:44
  >> Uh what's Okay, it's the opposite angle.
• 16:46
  Um but okay, duck [ __ ] is like famous
• 16:50
  famously a labyrinth. That's why uh
• 16:53
  that's why ducks like breadcrumbs so
• 16:54
  much. That's how they find their way
• 16:56
  out.
• 16:56
  >> That's great.
• 16:57
  >> They pull out. Oh my gosh. Wait, this is
• 16:59
  so interesting. Okay, so I'm going to
• 17:01
  steer clear because it's your territory.
• 17:02
  >> Well, no, no, no, no, no. I don't do
• 17:04
  that joke. Uh cuz it
• 17:07
  >> Why don't I do that joke? Maybe I'll try
• 17:08
  that joke.
• 17:09
  >> That's funny.
• 17:09
  >> Yeah, that's that is funny. Oh, you know
• 17:12
  what? People don't agree. People don't
• 17:13
  know that duck [ __ ] is a labyrinth.
• 17:15
  >> Oh, right.
• 17:16
  >> And that's not something that they're
• 17:17
  like ready to immediately cosign if they
• 17:19
  haven't heard it before,
• 17:20
  >> right? I see that.
• 17:22
  >> But the penis being a spiral, I think
• 17:23
  people would be on board with
• 17:24
  immediately. What's your What's your
• 17:25
  spiral joke? Is it fra is it a fractal
• 17:27
  penis?
• 17:28
  >> That'd be awesome.
• 17:29
  >> What did I say about it?
• 17:30
  >> Like it like it goes smaller and smaller
• 17:32
  and you infinitely tiny heads that are
• 17:34
  all coming.
• 17:34
  >> Wait, that's so
• 17:36
  >> funny. Actually,
• 17:38
  >> I don't mean to I don't mean to write in
• 17:39
  your
• 17:40
  >> No, but I I couldn't find like a joke
• 17:42
  about it. I just kind of was trying to
• 17:44
  talk about it in a structured way, but
• 17:45
  it didn't really like land or make
• 17:48
  sense. But then I called the hour duct
• 17:51
  dicks Other Spirals. H
• 17:54
  >> wait, maybe I can just keep calling it
• 17:56
  that and like just reference the fact
• 17:57
  that sometimes you can't force your hand
• 18:00
  at something. But anyway, um
• 18:01
  >> like a duck dick trying to force its way
• 18:03
  >> into a duck [ __ ]
• 18:05
  >> Could you have spirals be like the main
• 18:08
  focus and then also be like and here's
• 18:11
  in the wider
• 18:12
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of what
• 18:15
  I'm thinking in general. And so anyway,
• 18:17
  that was like something like I I'm doing
• 18:18
  a show in Boston in September that I'm
• 18:21
  calling Duck Dicks Other Spirals, but I
• 18:23
  don't have a joke about Duct Dicks. I
• 18:24
  just have a that's like I just thought
• 18:27
  it was like a fun it sounded fun.
• 18:30
  >> And then yeah, sometimes like cuz I
• 18:33
  really love writing jokes about history.
• 18:34
  Definitely. I'll have a topic that comes
• 18:36
  to mind, like a historical topic or
• 18:38
  person that I want to write a joke
• 18:40
  about, but it's not I'll sometimes I'll
• 18:43
  like sometimes it works, but sometimes
• 18:45
  I'll struggle with finding like an
• 18:47
  authentic joke out of it. So I find that
• 18:49
  also the inverse will happen where
• 18:51
  something kind of just um like I feel
• 18:54
  like my observational jokes are things
• 18:55
  that happen to me or and then
• 18:59
  >> with like well the history is more of
• 19:02
  like looking into is that um are you
• 19:04
  like okay I want to write a joke about
• 19:07
  this person because I've already watched
• 19:09
  some sort of documentary on XYZ
• 19:13
  because you watched it Gettysburg good
• 19:15
  dress or something or is it like you you
• 19:17
  like oh I want to know about Tilla the
• 19:19
  Hun let me look into Ailla the Hun and
• 19:21
  try to write Attilla the Hun jokes or
• 19:23
  something.
• 19:23
  >> I would say it started because you know
• 19:24
  I have I have a masters in history and I
• 19:26
  worked for like years in history museums
• 19:29
  like most of my 20s. So then and as I
• 19:31
  started comedy and as it moved forward a
• 19:33
  bit I still was. So I feel like when I
• 19:37
  started comedy I was just thinking
• 19:41
  >> about historical idea. Sorry.
• 19:42
  >> Turning on the hot glue gun by the way.
• 19:44
  >> Oh fun. [ __ ] it up. [ __ ] it up. Wait. I
• 19:46
  realized to swear on on
• 19:48
  >> Yeah, I just said public radio and
• 19:49
  whatnot. But yeah. Yeah. Oh [ __ ] You
• 19:52
  have a you have a masters in history.
• 19:53
  >> Yeah. So and like public history. So I
• 19:55
  was like focusing on museum stuff. So
• 19:57
  anyway, anyway, when I started comedy,
• 19:59
  which was like as I was finishing my
• 20:00
  program, I was like really thinking
• 20:02
  about
• 20:03
  >> I was thinking in historical terms like
• 20:05
  I was thinking about ideas and
• 20:07
  frameworks and people
• 20:10
  and anecdotes that are historical in
• 20:13
  nature. So that really shaped a lot of
• 20:15
  my early comedic thinking. So I think
• 20:17
  that still is the case like my root like
• 20:19
  the root of me trying to do standup
• 20:22
  comedy is like
• 20:23
  >> a text.
• 20:24
  >> Yeah. Or like Yeah. I mean sure but uh
• 20:27
  >> museum
• 20:28
  >> stuff like a like a primary source.
• 20:30
  >> Oh.
• 20:31
  >> Or or or like a secondary source like a
• 20:33
  textbook that analyzes the primary
• 20:35
  source. But we had to read so many
• 20:38
  primary sources. And I've specifically
• 20:41
  Yeah. I worked for like a long time at a
• 20:43
  civil war museum. So I just had a always
• 20:46
  talking and thinking about Lincoln and
• 20:47
  emancipation policy and stuff because of
• 20:49
  secondary sources and like material that
• 20:52
  we'd have to read to prepare to do
• 20:53
  presentations or tours. And then in grad
• 20:55
  school like we were reading a lot of
• 20:59
  like yeah like a letter by somebody in
• 21:01
  the 18th century and then another thing
• 21:03
  that analyzed that letter and then like
• 21:06
  learning the skills of being a
• 21:07
  historian. So somehow those things are
• 21:09
  really um like the
• 21:12
  um you know like the research tools or
• 21:14
  whatever or like the analysis tools
• 21:16
  >> and that that informs your process or
• 21:18
  that also informs like the structure of
• 21:20
  the ideas.
• 21:21
  >> I think both.
• 21:22
  >> Okay.
• 21:22
  >> To be honest, both.
• 21:24
  >> To be honest, if we can be can we be
• 21:26
  [ __ ] honest on here?
• 21:27
  >> Both.
• 21:29
  >> Um
• 21:30
  >> by the way, my plan is to glue this
• 21:32
  eyeball to the end of this string and
• 21:34
  make some sort of eyeball string. So, I
• 21:36
  really love eyeballs.
• 21:38
  >> Oh, you got a bunch of eyeballs.
• 21:39
  >> Yeah.
• 21:40
  >> Nice.
• 21:40
  >> I think they're really creepy and fun.
• 21:42
  >> Yeah, they're great.
• 21:42
  >> Um,
• 21:44
  so yeah. Okay. Like right now.
• 21:50
  Okay. So, I'm trying to Yeah. I'm like
• 21:51
  thinking about spirals. I'm thinking
• 21:53
  about fractals. I'm thinking about the
• 21:56
  Fibonacci sequence sequence. I just
• 21:58
  found this book on the street outside of
• 22:00
  Fort Green Park called UK. The UK. Hang
• 22:04
  on. I have it in my bag. One second. Hm.
• 22:08
  A a blink uh fractal speech.
• 22:12
  >> Uh four score and 4 days and 4 hours and
• 22:16
  4 minutes and
• 22:18
  >> is that like
• 22:20
  >> be interesting if that was like
• 22:22
  according to the Fibonacci equation.
• 22:25
  >> Yeah.
• 22:25
  >> Which yes.
• 22:27
  >> It's like two Well, it would be reverse,
• 22:29
  I guess, right? Or
• 22:30
  >> trying to figure out that.
• 22:30
  >> So, it's like
• 22:32
  1 + 2. Hang on. It's like 1 plus two is
• 22:35
  three.
• 22:36
  >> Yes.
• 22:37
  >> And then three
• 22:38
  >> famous.
• 22:40
  >> Never mind.
• 22:41
  >> 3+ 2 is five. 5 plus 3.
• 22:43
  >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:43
  >> Yeah.
• 22:44
  >> Uh so you have the book on
• 22:46
  >> window. Whoa.
• 22:47
  >> Cuz I have cuz I I think I have to go
• 22:51
  to my spot after. So I'm going to be on
• 22:52
  the train for a long time. Um Uclid's
• 22:54
  window the story of geometry from
• 22:56
  parallel lines to hyperspace. So, it's
• 22:58
  like about the history of broadly like
• 23:01
  Greek, like how Greek mathematical
• 23:04
  thinking shaped our relationship to
• 23:06
  abstract thinking and reason, but also
• 23:08
  honing on on this guy. My point is that
• 23:10
  now I'm like really thinking about like
• 23:12
  spirals and stuff cuz it's just talking
• 23:14
  about you know Greek
• 23:17
  mathematicians and how they're making
• 23:19
  sense of space like our lived our our
• 23:23
  lived space and shapes and thinking
• 23:25
  about geometry in terms of space. I mean
• 23:28
  ge uh geography geography like
• 23:30
  >> so anyway anyway so like I'm like oh
• 23:32
  [ __ ] yeah I can write jokes about this
• 23:33
  but it's sometimes it's not that easy
• 23:35
  for me I have to be like okay well what
• 23:37
  is this actually like is this just
• 23:38
  something I think is kind of cool and
• 23:40
  interesting but or or is there like
• 23:44
  space for um a joke there and I feel
• 23:47
  like I've over the years had to learn to
• 23:52
  I can smell that getting hot kind of
• 23:54
  interesting
• 23:54
  >> that's the cool part right that's how
• 23:56
  you know it's good to Oh
• 23:57
  >> yeah, you know, you know how the it's
• 23:59
  how you know the juice is
• 24:01
  >> ready.
• 24:01
  >> Juice is melt is juiced up.
• 24:03
  >> Juice. Watch out. It is hot.
• 24:05
  >> Um I'm into these glue dots.
• 24:08
  >> Yeah, they might have they might Oh. Oh,
• 24:10
  [ __ ] It's hot. [ __ ] Forgot it's hot.
• 24:13
  >> Oh, okay.
• 24:14
  >> Oh, it's like uh you're Yeah, it's like
• 24:17
  totally fine. Um
• 24:18
  >> Um Yeah, sorry. I want to continuing
• 24:21
  what you're saying with this idea of uh
• 24:25
  working in that space. Uh two thoughts
• 24:28
  there. The first being like sometimes
• 24:31
  I'll like study some sort of thing like
• 24:34
  I'll read the about a like or by study I
• 24:37
  mean like I'll watch a YouTube video
• 24:38
  about dinosaurs, right? But then like
• 24:41
  but then like I won't like
• 24:43
  >> I won't immediately get a joke from that
• 24:45
  but then later um I'll be like
• 24:48
  >> you know uh watching a video about like
• 24:51
  >> some sort of some promo video for
• 24:53
  somebody doing like a like a real estate
• 24:55
  promo for like a downtown Manhattan
• 24:57
  apartment and having watched the
• 24:59
  dinosaur video that I look at that and
• 25:01
  I'm like oh interesting I can see how
• 25:03
  like I'm going to connect this back to
• 25:04
  the dinosaur right that's so cool
• 25:06
  >> and so so I think maybe a little bit
• 25:08
  what you're doing as well is it's You're
• 25:10
  loading up the
• 25:12
  >> like the cannon. The glue gun. The glue
• 25:15
  cylinder.
• 25:16
  >> Yeah. Loading up.
• 25:16
  >> Also get an eyeball to attach it to
• 25:18
  >> and then something activates.
• 25:20
  >> Yes.
• 25:21
  >> Like you're So like you take in a
• 25:23
  documentary or you read something.
• 25:25
  >> Then you some other [ __ ]
• 25:27
  >> then. But then so like that creates this
• 25:28
  backlog of just like material
• 25:31
  observation. I mean of inspiration where
• 25:33
  it's like the cylinder,
• 25:35
  the glue cylinder and then like
• 25:37
  something in your day or something else
• 25:39
  you encounter.
• 25:40
  >> It's the eyeball
• 25:42
  >> is the eyeball and you're like oh wait I
• 25:44
  have a system for executing for
• 25:47
  execution I have like a way to utilize
• 25:49
  the glue cylinder
• 25:51
  >> and that's pulling the trigger
• 25:52
  >> like the thing you saw.
• 25:53
  >> Absolutely. Well, and and well, the
• 25:56
  second followup is um you know, if
• 25:59
  you're reading about Uklid's window and
• 26:01
  spirals and whatnot, and there's all
• 26:03
  this stuff that's like, okay, I assume
• 26:05
  you were thinking a lot about this where
• 26:07
  it's like, how do I get the crowd to
• 26:09
  know what the hell I'm talking about?
• 26:11
  >> Yeah.
• 26:11
  >> Like, how do I get them to know this
• 26:12
  immediately?
• 26:13
  >> It took a lot of failure on my end to
• 26:15
  figure that figure out how to
• 26:19
  kind of bridge that gap just because I
• 26:20
  was really thinking along such nerdy
• 26:22
  lines when I first started over mics.
• 26:24
  But I was also doing different kinds of
• 26:25
  mics. I was doing broier mics and I was
• 26:27
  doing like black rooms in DC. So it
• 26:30
  wasn't just like a kind of like wonky
• 26:32
  bespckled
• 26:34
  young millennial audience in DC only.
• 26:37
  Like so
• 26:39
  I had to figure it out somewhere.
• 26:41
  >> It's bespecled. I'm like let's go. It's
• 26:43
  Uklid material times.
• 26:44
  >> I know. I know. I love that. But it's
• 26:48
  not the only people that couldn't see
• 26:50
  comedy. I think that's important. So,
• 26:51
  and I and I'll always believe it's
• 26:53
  important to put yourself in different
• 26:55
  kind of comedy audiences
• 26:58
  to the extent that it's of interest or
• 26:59
  something. But like,
• 27:00
  >> do you plan on using the goo gun by the
• 27:01
  way? This maybe I'll turn.
• 27:02
  >> Not yet. You can you can turn that puppy
• 27:04
  off. You can give her some rest.
• 27:06
  >> Um, I'm going to draw some things with
• 27:09
  So then,
• 27:10
  uh, wait, an example just came to my
• 27:12
  mind. Um, oh, wait. When I first started
• 27:16
  like one of my first I had this like
• 27:18
  idea about
• 27:22
  person
• 27:25
  >> what's the word personification
• 27:27
  personifying personifying is the verb
• 27:30
  right
• 27:30
  >> yeah like taking an animal like he's
• 27:32
  wearing
• 27:32
  >> the planets like this was like early on
• 27:35
  and it was honestly based off like a
• 27:36
  really silly conversation I'd had like
• 27:38
  as a senior in in college and so then
• 27:41
  years later I thought about that as I
• 27:43
  was like writing jokes and that always
• 27:45
  had stuck in my mind as something kind
• 27:47
  of fun to try out which is just like
• 27:49
  what would they be saying like and I
• 27:51
  don't even remember but it was just like
• 27:53
  Mars is like hot or like like something
• 27:56
  about Mars being physically hot.
• 28:00
  >> Is that correct? No.
• 28:04
  Oh, I actually forgot like anyway, but
• 28:06
  the point was I was giving a personality
• 28:07
  to each of the planets and then Pluto
• 28:10
  had some like joke about Pluto being
• 28:11
  like, you know, but I I exist or
• 28:14
  whatever. And so then something like
• 28:15
  that. And you know, it was so like I
• 28:18
  didn't know how to do material like
• 28:19
  that. It was just an idea that I'd had
• 28:21
  that mostly was confusing and too weird.
• 28:25
  A guy I was getting at the time who was
• 28:26
  generally supportive of me was like, I
• 28:29
  mean, me doing obviously open mics was
• 28:31
  like
• 28:33
  I don't know about that. And then sure
• 28:34
  enough, one time a woman in the audience
• 28:36
  was like too high brow. And I don't
• 28:38
  think it's high brow. I just think I
• 28:40
  don't know. I didn't know how to do
• 28:42
  that. And I also think it was like not
• 28:44
  the right like it wasn't the right
• 28:46
  instinct. Like I if I had a joke about
• 28:48
  that now and I hadn't made it work, I
• 28:50
  would do it maybe at like a union hall
• 28:52
  but not at a certain other environment,
• 28:53
  you know, where this mic was. So that's
• 28:56
  just an example of something that I
• 28:57
  couldn't I don't know. Yeah.
• 28:59
  >> No, that makes sense. I um I tried to do
• 29:01
  one where I was personifying uh all the
• 29:05
  colors of the rainbow.
• 29:06
  >> Wait, that's so interesting.
• 29:08
  >> I uh
• 29:09
  >> kind of similarly coded
• 29:10
  >> sim similarly coded idea. Um and I was
• 29:14
  kind of like they're kind of like a
• 29:15
  Greek pantheon which is interesting with
• 29:17
  the planets cuz that's also like a space
• 29:19
  that that's like they're also um
• 29:22
  >> I know it's off but I'm going to try.
• 29:23
  >> Oh yeah. Yeah, it should still be kind
• 29:24
  of hot.
• 29:27
  I forget the whole I forget the whole
• 29:29
  premise. Uh what kind of like indigo?
• 29:32
  >> I don't know. I had different ones like
• 29:34
  because like they were hooking up. Uh
• 29:36
  but then like that like there was like
• 29:39
  in because it was like Greek mythology.
• 29:40
  There's like incest moments. It was like
• 29:42
  >> right
• 29:42
  >> like um
• 29:44
  blue and red like had a kid which was
• 29:48
  purple, but then purple and blue also
• 29:51
  had a kid which was indigo. Something
• 29:53
  like that.
• 29:54
  >> I love that. That's really creative.
• 29:56
  >> I appreciate that. Um,
• 29:58
  >> I don't know if it was funny enough,
• 30:00
  >> right? Not not right. I mean, like I
• 30:02
  just
• 30:02
  >> Right. Yeah.
• 30:04
  >> I mean, like I understand what you mean.
• 30:06
  I think I run I've run into that, but I
• 30:08
  think that sounds really creative and
• 30:10
  >> I appreciate I appreciate I
• 30:11
  >> like, you know, distinct like unique to
• 30:13
  your voice.
• 30:14
  >> Thank you. I I you know uh it's having
• 30:18
  um fun and going a more interesting
• 30:21
  creative direction and yeah uh you know
• 30:26
  like like
• 30:27
  >> I would much rather have a joke about uh
• 30:30
  like the beauty of a snowflake
• 30:33
  >> than about like being on the apps just
• 30:35
  cuz it like just aesthetically there's
• 30:37
  something so fun. Like I've been
• 30:39
  thinking about a lot about uh apple
• 30:40
  cider lately.
• 30:41
  >> Oh fun.
• 30:42
  >> It's like there something there for me.
• 30:44
  You know what I mean? I really enjoy the
• 30:45
  >> It's the You ever been thinking about
• 30:46
  apple cider?
• 30:47
  >> What What sparked that?
• 30:49
  >> I was thinking about apple cider.
• 30:51
  >> Did you have some or you were just
• 30:52
  thinking about it?
• 30:53
  >> I think I saw some at the store and I
• 30:54
  was like, "Yes, I need to think about
• 30:56
  this."
• 30:56
  >> Yeah, exactly. I I know. I kind of know
• 30:58
  what you mean. Like structurally, I know
• 30:59
  what you or uh systematically you're
• 31:01
  like, "Okay, I've been thinking about
• 31:03
  apple cider." And now you want I do want
• 31:04
  to write a bit about it or do you have a
• 31:05
  bit?
• 31:06
  >> Love to. I I've got a few that are not
• 31:09
  that well developed, but I but I
• 31:12
  >> That's really cool. I appreciate but I
• 31:14
  but it's been difficult. It's like your
• 31:16
  spirals where I'm looking at apple
• 31:18
  cider. I'm like, "All right, there's got
• 31:19
  to be something." Uh
• 31:21
  >> yeah, but there will be.
• 31:22
  >> There will be. I got to sit.
• 31:24
  >> You know what happens to me is I will be
• 31:26
  like, "Come on, I want to write a joke
• 31:29
  about George Washington. Come on,
• 31:31
  Britney." And then I just have nothing.
• 31:32
  And then
• 31:35
  like 6 months later,
• 31:37
  >> something Well, I guess it's like what
• 31:38
  we were talking about earlier. Yeah.
• 31:39
  >> Put on deck. Yeah.
• 31:40
  >> And you're like, "Oh." And sometimes it
• 31:42
  happens to me with like punchlines that
• 31:43
  make a otherwise fun premise but a not
• 31:47
  oh I know I know like like I have one
• 31:48
  right now that's like the whole fractal
• 31:50
  stuff is this like bit that's really
• 31:52
  long but it has to do with broccoli and
• 31:55
  it just took me forever to figure it out
• 31:56
  as anything that was like funny. I just
• 31:58
  thought it was funny. I thought it was
• 32:00
  interesting
• 32:02
  when I had the thought about broccoli. I
• 32:04
  I know the I know the bit the the
• 32:07
  >> your like your mom told you it was a
• 32:09
  fractal or something and then you
• 32:11
  >> well that was like the thing that made
• 32:12
  it work like I basically I had this like
• 32:14
  random I was like oh a fit is identical
• 32:18
  to a crown of broccoli and then I wanted
• 32:21
  to rank a joke about that but obviously
• 32:22
  no one knew or cared what I was talking
• 32:24
  about and it took like so long and I do
• 32:27
  feel comfortable shouting this name out
• 32:29
  because she's my friend and um it was a
• 32:32
  comedian Julia a shiplet at one point
• 32:34
  was like,
• 32:36
  >> "Britty, no, that's too weird. Like, I
• 32:38
  want to hear about your personal life."
• 32:41
  And this was last fall. And I really, in
• 32:43
  her defense, I really was failing at
• 32:45
  this premise that no one was invested
• 32:49
  in. But then a series of things happened
• 32:51
  to me related to that that made the joke
• 32:54
  ultimately work, including my mom like
• 32:57
  knowing what a fractal is. So after like
• 33:01
  I got kind of like like a guy to a guy
• 33:05
  came up to me to talk to me about
• 33:06
  fractals after my set like a random guy
• 33:10
  and then
• 33:12
  two months later my mom like responded
• 33:15
  to something. So long story short
• 33:16
  without going into detail is like
• 33:17
  without boring people about the bit is
• 33:19
  like a number of real life things
• 33:22
  happened
• 33:24
  that
• 33:26
  made my
• 33:27
  >> Yeah. And then that's kind of made it a
• 33:29
  bit meta, but I don't mind that I guess
• 33:32
  right now. So anyway,
• 33:34
  >> no, no, that's cool. No, it's an
• 33:36
  interesting
• 33:38
  it's it's like it's a story, but it's
• 33:40
  also like about how ideas are. I don't
• 33:44
  know,
• 33:44
  >> right?
• 33:45
  >> It's cool.
• 33:46
  >> It's a cool bit. Sorry, folks that you
• 33:48
  don't get to see it in this moment.
• 33:49
  Sorry. Go check it out if it's online.
• 33:53
  >> It's not yet, but stay tuned, friends.
• 33:55
  Stay [ __ ] tuned
• 33:57
  >> or just find my ass performing around
• 34:00
  New York City.
• 34:01
  >> When does Wait, when does this come out?
• 34:02
  >> I don't know.
• 34:03
  >> Cool.
• 34:05
  >> Probably like next week.
• 34:06
  >> Oh, yeah.
• 34:06
  >> Yeah. I've got a quick turnaround
• 34:08
  because I don't do this podcast enough.
• 34:09
  We were uh I just had Nico on.
• 34:12
  >> Oh, you Okay, cool. Carney. Double the
• 34:14
  Carney.
• 34:14
  >> Double the Carney. Um which
• 34:17
  >> could have been Double the Carney in
• 34:18
  person, but it doesn't didn't really
• 34:19
  work.
• 34:19
  >> Was it?
• 34:19
  >> Sorry. It could could have been double
• 34:23
  the carney in person, but it did not
• 34:25
  quite work.
• 34:25
  >> Yeah, I was trying to do the thing where
• 34:26
  I have four people on as I was doing.
• 34:28
  >> Would we all be at the table?
• 34:29
  >> It's so [ __ ] hard to
• 34:31
  >> I know. Comics are naughty.
• 34:33
  >> Yeah. Yeah. People are
• 34:35
  >> and busy, you know.
• 34:35
  >> Yeah. They're just like, "Oh, I've got a
• 34:37
  set." I'm like, "All right, well, you
• 34:39
  also have a podcast."
• 34:40
  >> It must be like like I've gotten in
• 34:42
  trouble with boyfriends who are not in
• 34:44
  comedy. Like
• 34:46
  I'm like, "Oh, huh. I'm going to I have
• 34:48
  a show." and they're like, "Britney,
• 34:50
  like I was really hoping that we would
• 34:52
  go to dinner or something like that kind
• 34:54
  of thing." And that's happened to me
• 34:56
  like in in like um yeah, and my past two
• 35:01
  serious relationships were not with a
• 35:02
  comedian. And
• 35:05
  anyway,
• 35:06
  >> like you get a you get an offer to do a
• 35:07
  show and you're like, I got to do that
• 35:09
  or whatever. or is that
• 35:10
  >> Yeah, I kind of like jump on opportunity
• 35:12
  to show, but not I also have like really
• 35:15
  um bad ADHD or strong ADHD. So, I I feel
• 35:17
  like I I'm forgetful about agreeing to
• 35:20
  something that's not immediately in my
• 35:21
  mind, right? So, I I've been like, "Oh,
• 35:22
  yeah, we can go." Or like, you know,
• 35:24
  it's like like a guy has been like um
• 35:28
  asking me about Thursday and it's like,
• 35:30
  "Yeah, we'll we can go do something
• 35:32
  Thursday evening." But then I get an
• 35:33
  offer to do a spot somewhere and so I'll
• 35:35
  just say yes cuz it's like on the
• 35:37
  forefront or it's like
• 35:38
  >> and so anyway, I' How What's my point of
• 35:42
  this? My point is like you in this
• 35:43
  instance trying to wrangle comedians to
• 35:45
  join you in doing crafts. Like you're
• 35:48
  >> like you I'm being like comedians are
• 35:50
  being me. What? Like you know what I
• 35:53
  mean? Like cuz comedians are are prone
• 35:55
  to being like,
• 35:56
  >> "Oh, huh. Well, oops. I have to go do
• 35:59
  this thing." And not really thinking
• 36:00
  about things I agreed to or
• 36:02
  >> You're also like doing well in comedy.
• 36:05
  like uh like it was I was trying to have
• 36:06
  like you Nico uh like Zach Zimmerman and
• 36:10
  Jay Jordan and I'm like well all of you
• 36:12
  are like doing well enough that it's
• 36:15
  like very very reasonable that everybody
• 36:18
  at some point each night is going to
• 36:20
  have something. You know what I mean?
• 36:21
  >> Well, I'm glad that it worked out this
• 36:22
  way.
• 36:23
  >> Yeah. It's also just I it fits easier in
• 36:27
  my room like uh having one you imagine
• 36:30
  having all like
• 36:31
  >> it would be kind of fun. It would be
• 36:32
  kind of like silly like a camp thing.
• 36:34
  Yeah, this be fun. But this is nice.
• 36:36
  Comfortable.
• 36:37
  >> This is fun. This is like intimate.
• 36:39
  >> I'll try to I'll try to keep doing it,
• 36:40
  but I I'm doing solo eps as well.
• 36:43
  >> Oh, with you just
• 36:45
  >> Yeah, I'll do
• 36:46
  >> Oh, you mean um you want to keep trying
• 36:48
  to do groups?
• 36:49
  >> Yeah, but maybe I'll maybe I'll try to
• 36:50
  do solo eps with people and then bring
• 36:52
  them back in a group and stuff like
• 36:53
  that. Do a little mix.
• 36:56
  >> Neat. Um
• 36:58
  I'm uh
• 36:59
  >> Gollum. What' you make? What have you
• 37:00
  made so far this show and tell
• 37:02
  >> craft checkin? Yeah,
• 37:05
  >> this is great. I really love getting to
• 37:07
  play with things.
• 37:09
  >> Okay, so I just made a sort of like
• 37:13
  card of little creature of eyeball
• 37:18
  systems. Creatures
• 37:19
  >> put the camera. Can I put it into the
• 37:21
  camera?
• 37:22
  >> Yeah.
• 37:24
  >> A system of creatures, you said?
• 37:26
  >> Yeah.
• 37:28
  It's like cellular.
• 37:30
  >> Take a look at this.
• 37:31
  >> It's like Oh, wow. It can be kind of
• 37:33
  whatever.
• 37:33
  >> That reminds me of uh Spore. Like the
• 37:35
  video. You ever play the video game
• 37:36
  Spore? Are you a gamer?
• 37:37
  >> No. No. But I feel like I
• 37:40
  have a lot of respect for the world of
• 37:43
  gaming. I just never really got into it.
• 37:45
  But
• 37:46
  >> I appreciate that.
• 37:48
  >> You know what I mean?
• 37:48
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like I feel that
• 37:50
  way about like um
• 37:51
  >> I respect your
• 37:52
  >> like D and D or something or Lord of the
• 37:54
  I'm like I don't really know but I feel
• 37:58
  like
• 38:01
  >> um warmly towards that
• 38:03
  >> just like a you know just like a bow.
• 38:05
  >> Yeah, like a vow. Like I recently I
• 38:07
  recently heard somebody in a podcast
• 38:09
  talking about
• 38:11
  like they like they're talking broadly
• 38:13
  about um
• 38:15
  Housewives, right? like Real Housewives
• 38:17
  franchise, which I I don't really I've
• 38:20
  never really seen it
• 38:21
  >> franchise. You can open up your own.
• 38:23
  Sorry.
• 38:24
  >> Real Housewives.
• 38:24
  >> I'm going to open up my own Real
• 38:25
  Housewives.
• 38:27
  >> You know, you know when you go to like a
• 38:28
  Taco Bell and it's like the fancy Taco
• 38:30
  Bell.
• 38:30
  >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 38:32
  >> Real Housewives and we're serving pizza.
• 38:35
  >> You're serving pizza at this.
• 38:37
  >> But anyway, somebody was like,
• 38:39
  >> "Oh, I don't partake, but I respect
• 38:42
  that." I think that's how I feel about
• 38:43
  like
• 38:44
  >> video games.
• 38:44
  >> Sorry. So sport. What happens in Spore?
• 38:46
  >> Well, Spore is like microbial. At the
• 38:49
  beginning, it's a microbial environment
• 38:51
  guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:52
  >> That sounds awesome.
• 38:53
  >> That's a cool game. They kind of nerfed
• 38:55
  it. Uh they showed a cool demo where it
• 38:57
  was more interesting, then they nerfed
• 38:58
  it. Uh Hell yeah.
• 39:01
  >> Love that. That's like a worm if it
• 39:03
  that's how a worm would wear a
• 39:04
  friendship bracelet.
• 39:06
  >> Yeah, that's how the only way a worm you
• 39:08
  ever dissected a worm.
• 39:10
  >> Um not for school.
• 39:13
  Wait, this is so fun to talk to you
• 39:14
  because Sorry, also I didn't read a
• 39:17
  story.
• 39:19
  >> Not for school.
• 39:21
  >> I'm like smooshed worms and stuff. I was
• 39:23
  like a kid
• 39:25
  >> to see what's inside. What's happening?
• 39:26
  >> Or like finding smooshed ones on the
• 39:28
  black top and being like, "All right,
• 39:30
  let's take a look at this." I don't
• 39:31
  really remember.
• 39:31
  >> I think you smushed a worm.
• 39:32
  >> I don't remember doing it. Um, sorry.
• 39:34
  >> You don't remember doing it in school? I
• 39:36
  do.
• 39:37
  >> No. No. Um, I never actually took any of
• 39:39
  the classes where you dissect stuff
• 39:41
  other than like
• 39:42
  >> um we did like owl pellets, but I never
• 39:44
  got to do the frog or anything. I like
• 39:46
  the frog. Dissecting a frog would have
• 39:47
  been up my alley. U
• 39:50
  >> Yeah, that is up your alley.
• 39:51
  >> Didn't take that class. Can I see this?
• 39:53
  I like the the uh the thing.
• 39:54
  >> The which thing?
• 39:55
  >> The main uh piece. Yes.
• 39:58
  >> Yeah.
• 40:00
  >> Let's take a look. You got a bunch of
• 40:02
  little little fellas. I like that they
• 40:04
  all got like this guy's got four eyes.
• 40:06
  Like there's like a
• 40:07
  >> It's like we're looking under a
• 40:08
  microscope at a bunch of little dudes.
• 40:10
  >> I know. I I kind of wish I had those as
• 40:12
  like little pets.
• 40:14
  >> This This is yours to keep, by the way.
• 40:16
  Of course.
• 40:16
  >> Thank you so much, Benny.
• 40:18
  >> Oh, I got to show you what I made.
• 40:20
  >> It's a sort of
• 40:21
  >> Wait, I love this
• 40:22
  >> eyeball clock.
• 40:24
  >> The numbers are 124 and seven.
• 40:27
  >> Wow, this is incredible.
• 40:28
  >> Tick tick
• 40:29
  >> 1124 and seven. And the the hand it it
• 40:33
  ah the hand only goes Let me bring it to
• 40:36
  the camera.
• 40:40
  >> This is amazing. It really like
• 40:42
  >> the hand only goes up and into the
• 40:43
  clock. What
• 40:44
  >> really deconstructs what a clock means
• 40:47
  to us. It's kind of dolly but more more
• 40:52
  um
• 40:54
  uh edge pushing.
• 40:56
  >> I appreciate that. I also just sort of
• 40:59
  uh wanted to shove this through a piece
• 41:01
  of paper and then I was like it kind of
• 41:03
  looks like the hand of clock.
• 41:04
  >> I like the mechanics of it.
• 41:05
  >> Thank you.
• 41:08
  I probably throw that [ __ ] out.
• 41:12
  >> I keep I keep the ones that I think
• 41:14
  aesthetically fit the space. Sometimes I
• 41:16
  kind of just make some [ __ ] for
• 41:17
  >> There's a lot of fun thingies in here.
• 41:20
  >> Appreciate a
• 41:20
  >> lot of frog elements. Yes, I've I've
• 41:22
  dissected a frog. I've dissected a worm,
• 41:23
  but
• 41:24
  >> Oh, yeah. You say you you dissected
• 41:28
  Yeah, I've dissected a
• 41:32
  a critter here or there.
• 41:34
  >> Yeah,
• 41:34
  >> but in like a grade school science
• 41:36
  context. So
• 41:38
  >> the worm was boring because it's just
• 41:40
  kind of like dirt
• 41:42
  >> whereas obviously other
• 41:44
  >> even like aian like a frog is like
• 41:47
  there's a lot happening. But then I
• 41:49
  remember that we this reminded me of
• 41:51
  dissecting a worm where you slice it
• 41:52
  open vertically but it's like
• 41:54
  >> just dirt.
• 41:55
  >> Just dirt.
• 41:56
  dirt and hearts.
• 41:57
  >> It's like,
• 41:58
  >> oh, right. Like probably a tiny tiny
• 41:59
  little heart and a huge
• 42:05
  >> um [ __ ]
• 42:09
  I uh I did this like nature camp when I
• 42:11
  was a kid. Uh and that's been very Yeah.
• 42:14
  I mean, that's been very formative to
• 42:17
  kind of like my interests and aesthetic
• 42:19
  and stuff. I'm curious if you've got
• 42:21
  >> like some [ __ ] like that growing up.
• 42:23
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Um Right.
• 42:24
  cuz I feel like I what I realized just
• 42:26
  now is that we both you have much more.
• 42:28
  You're more prolific about this, but I
• 42:29
  have some animal and natury material.
• 42:33
  >> I that's I just love that space. That's
• 42:34
  why I like
• 42:35
  >> it's so fun.
• 42:36
  >> But I like that you you've got you're
• 42:38
  very prolific in the
• 42:40
  >> spiral and history space.
• 42:44
  >> Yeah, that's
• 42:46
  that's where I cap that's where I, you
• 42:48
  know, tap out creative.
• 42:49
  >> That's like a George Washington Carver
• 42:51
  joke, by the way.
• 42:52
  >> Yeah. Can you tell me? Uh he uh this he
• 42:55
  in he he invented all those uses for
• 42:56
  peanut butter including like shampoo but
• 42:59
  like before he knew that would work.
• 43:00
  He's just like rubbing peanuts on his
• 43:04
  head.
• 43:05
  That's it. That's the whole idea. I
• 43:08
  thought that was funny.
• 43:08
  >> I think that image is so funny.
• 43:10
  >> It's like incredibly funny.
• 43:11
  >> I've actually tried to write sketches
• 43:12
  about George Washington Carver,
• 43:16
  >> but I I couldn't. Nothing that really
• 43:18
  landed. Um,
• 43:19
  >> but I guess my thought there is like
• 43:21
  sometimes I touch into history and
• 43:23
  sometimes the animals. What's your
• 43:25
  what's
• 43:26
  >> Oh, yeah. I don't know. It's just that I
• 43:28
  think my parents were really they were
• 43:30
  like into bringing my sister and I since
• 43:32
  we were little to different kinds of
• 43:34
  museums and different kinds of explorer
• 43:37
  explore oriented institutions and we
• 43:40
  were in Japan for most of our childhoods
• 43:42
  which is like
• 43:42
  >> not same but go on
• 43:44
  >> really but like there's like a lot of
• 43:45
  stuff
• 43:46
  >> for kids and it's very like like
• 43:49
  culturally I would say Japanese cities
• 43:52
  have a lot of like spaces for kids to
• 43:55
  get you know there are some soil under
• 43:59
  their fingernails and like explore
• 44:00
  insects and
• 44:02
  >> this is really fascinating. Oh, how long
• 44:03
  did you live in Japan? Like the like
• 44:05
  >> um So,
• 44:07
  >> so you should have more material about
• 44:08
  like the Tokugawa Shogunate or
• 44:10
  something.
• 44:10
  >> Yeah, I actually have Right. Actually, I
• 44:12
  have Sorry. I I I'm interested in the
• 44:15
  Tokugawa Shogunet and I'm really
• 44:17
  interested in this specific history
• 44:19
  that's like about the Portuguese and the
• 44:23
  ultimately the Dutch going to Japan and
• 44:25
  and you know sort of still conducting
• 44:28
  trade through this early 17th century.
• 44:29
  Like I I've like thought about that a
• 44:31
  lot historically. I've done research on
• 44:32
  it for papers. It's like something I'm
• 44:35
  really into. So yeah, there that's like
• 44:36
  something that I would love to create
• 44:38
  comedy around. Um I I moved uh so I was
• 44:42
  born there. I we moved for we lived for
• 44:45
  a few years in Singapore when I was
• 44:47
  fourth, fifth, sixth grade. Then we
• 44:48
  moved back and forth a bit like then
• 44:50
  ultimately we moved from Japan.
• 44:51
  >> Singapore to Japan like back and forth
• 44:53
  >> Japan. Yeah. So after Singapore back to
• 44:55
  Japan
• 44:58
  >> then the middle of ninth grade
• 45:01
  when I was in the middle of nth grade we
• 45:04
  moved to outside of Philly.
• 45:06
  >> Oh wait that's Fred,
• 45:07
  >> right? That's
• 45:08
  >> that's how we we've tal we talked about
• 45:09
  this but we're from similar
• 45:11
  >> we're from like
• 45:13
  >> around each other like so my dad's from
• 45:15
  Philadelphia and my parents met in
• 45:17
  Philadelphia but before my sister and I
• 45:18
  were born my mom was like who grew up in
• 45:21
  Japan was like I'm moving
• 45:24
  >> like
• 45:24
  >> are you Japanese are you
• 45:25
  >> I'm I'm a quarter. So, my mom's half but
• 45:28
  was um born and raised in Japan, but
• 45:31
  then my grandfather sent all of his
• 45:34
  daughters to university in the US, which
• 45:36
  was like in the 70s, obviously. So,
• 45:37
  >> I I assume you speak Japanese as well.
• 45:39
  >> Yeah, that's my first language.
• 45:40
  >> Cool. Neat. That's interesting stuff.
• 45:43
  >> So, I love language jokes, too. But for
• 45:45
  some reason, I'm struggling to come up
• 45:46
  with a lot of Japanese stuff. It's just
• 45:48
  like I mean I don't mean stuff in
• 45:49
  Japanese. I mean like stuff about
• 45:50
  Japanese language for maybe similar
• 45:53
  reasons where I like can't force myself
• 45:55
  to write something. I'm like, "Oh, oh,
• 45:57
  okay." Like, "I want to write a joke
• 45:58
  about this, but I'm having a hard time
• 46:01
  figuring out like anything like clarity
• 46:03
  or punch line." Okay. So, and it's kind
• 46:05
  of about how because
• 46:07
  as a kids like like how do I say this?
• 46:11
  My Japanese is like um
• 46:13
  [Music]
• 46:14
  like I don't know dirty talk in Japanese
• 46:17
  cuz I didn't use it. You know what I
• 46:18
  mean? Like I I wasn't an adult in Japan,
• 46:21
  right?
• 46:21
  >> Or like or like you. Yeah. Yeah. So, um,
• 46:24
  but so then when I learn like slang like
• 46:27
  that, it's kind of like later or when I
• 46:28
  was I spent my junior year of college
• 46:30
  back in Japan and that's where I got a
• 46:32
  lot of like slang because I uh cuz
• 46:34
  before that I was like in middle school
• 46:35
  and like a little bit of nth grade where
• 46:37
  I went to an English language school but
• 46:38
  obviously people were using Japanese
• 46:40
  slang around me but not quite like
• 46:41
  sexual yet you know. So then so then
• 46:44
  anyway so then I later learned like okay
• 46:46
  there was just something interesting to
• 46:47
  me about this. So,
• 46:50
  sorry. I didn't mean to fondle my self.
• 46:53
  I just So, it's like,
• 46:55
  >> huh?
• 46:56
  >> Yeah.
• 46:57
  >> Oh, no. I was touching my boob because
• 46:59
  it's about what I'm about to say. So,
• 47:00
  >> Oh, gotcha.
• 47:03
  >> My
• 47:05
  my lung is in a different Sorry. Sorry.
• 47:07
  My You say nipples.
• 47:10
  So, the slang for nipples in Japanese,
• 47:13
  you can say like mame, which means bean.
• 47:17
  And this is literally from my mom being
• 47:18
  like, "Your m" you She'll say this
• 47:20
  sentence in English, except she'll say
• 47:21
  the word mame, she'll be like, "Your
• 47:22
  mommies are showing." Like if I'm
• 47:24
  wearing a shirt or dress for she thinks
• 47:26
  that they're showing. It's very like mom
• 47:27
  thing, right? Your mommies are showing.
• 47:29
  And mame just means bean in Japanese.
• 47:32
  Like like edamame, you know, it's just
• 47:34
  >> right. It has a kind of refers to the
• 47:37
  kind of bean. So like So
• 47:41
  like bean in English is a slang for
• 47:43
  [ __ ]
• 47:44
  >> Oh,
• 47:44
  >> right. But then also like so slang for
• 47:48
  [ __ ] in Japanese is
• 47:49
  >> oh like it's a nude
• 47:54
  >> um slang for chestnut in Japanese like a
• 47:57
  chestnut in Japanese wait [ __ ] is other
• 48:00
  way around. Sorry. Slang for [ __ ] in
• 48:02
  Japanese is the word for chestnut which
• 48:05
  is ki.
• 48:06
  >> Wait are chestnuts different in Japan
• 48:09
  are chestnuts
• 48:10
  >> I know. I kind of don't understand it.
• 48:11
  I'm like what? Yeah. But maybe because
• 48:14
  it's like maybe they're just like
• 48:15
  smaller and like cuter cuz it's Japan.
• 48:17
  >> Like it could be
• 48:18
  >> like they literally might have a
• 48:19
  different type of like chestnut.
• 48:20
  >> Yeah. And maybe so. But like Yeah. Like
• 48:22
  a little roasted chest
• 48:23
  >> or bigger clicks. Sorry.
• 48:27
  >> That's possible. I don't really know.
• 48:30
  But um so so like
• 48:34
  so okay. So it's just like a weird web
• 48:36
  of like connections where like slang the
• 48:39
  slang in Japanese for clitoris is the
• 48:41
  word for chestnut.
• 48:43
  The slang for Clint in English is the
• 48:45
  word bean.
• 48:48
  >> The word for bean in Japanese is the
• 48:50
  slang for nipples. There's like a web
• 48:51
  here that I'm trying to sort out, but I
• 48:54
  don't
• 48:54
  >> I don't know how to connect them or how
• 48:56
  to make a joke about it. It's just like
• 48:57
  a
• 48:58
  >> thing I'm thinking about.
• 49:00
  >> And then a chest not on a chest
• 49:02
  something.
• 49:02
  >> Wait,
• 49:03
  >> something there.
• 49:04
  >> Wait, that's so funny cuz I think that
• 49:05
  the punch line would have to be really
• 49:06
  fun and like silly like a like that.
• 49:10
  >> Well, you go really like I'm inspired.
• 49:12
  No, you go really racist. That's what I
• 49:13
  was thinking about. I was going and then
• 49:15
  so I was like literally thinking about
• 49:16
  being like the way this so then the way
• 49:18
  but it's crazy cuz like the way you say
• 49:20
  chestnut in Japanese is is like pika
• 49:22
  pikachu or like something like just like
• 49:25
  something in a Japanese accent. And also
• 49:27
  I want to write a joke about how
• 49:30
  I I'm allowed to use a Japanese accent.
• 49:34
  I can
• 49:36
  >> because you like are from there and
• 49:38
  Yeah. And like it's interesting. You
• 49:40
  ever do that on stage and you You could
• 49:42
  you could do a little bit of a reveal
• 49:43
  where you do it first in a way that
• 49:46
  makes the crowd go, "Whoa, what the
• 49:47
  hell?" And then you go, "Hey, by the
• 49:49
  way."
• 49:49
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:51
  >> Just kidding.
• 49:52
  >> Got that ching chong in my blood. Okay.
• 49:55
  Um I'm allowed to say that. So I'm
• 49:57
  allowed to say that I to Mandarin for
• 49:59
  two years. So, uh,
• 50:01
  >> I'm allowed to say it cuz I technically
• 50:02
  have the past to say anything with
• 50:05
  >> As long as I as long as I say it a
• 50:07
  certain way with a level of plausible
• 50:09
  deniability,
• 50:10
  >> right? That's how that goes. Oh, I like
• 50:13
  your
• 50:13
  >> I don't use that power.
• 50:15
  >> No, that's why that's why you're good.
• 50:18
  That's what makes you like um Yeah, you
• 50:20
  don't use that power. You're aware of
• 50:22
  it, but I know what you're talking
• 50:23
  about. fun to go if there there's an
• 50:25
  alternate path where I could go evil
• 50:27
  Benny, which I think is funny, but
• 50:29
  >> that'd be really interesting. What would
• 50:31
  spark that
• 50:35
  >> if I was forced to under fascism? No, I
• 50:37
  don't think I would do that. I don't No,
• 50:39
  I'm not. I still wouldn't. I don't know.
• 50:42
  >> Right. It's like, hey, you're going to
• 50:43
  be on Kill Tony.
• 50:45
  >> Yeah.
• 50:45
  >> Or
• 50:47
  or
• 50:48
  >> if Mr. Beast offered me $10,000, I'll
• 50:50
  say whatever the [ __ ] I just learned
• 50:54
  Wait, did we talk about this?
• 50:56
  Because I I'm having a weird flashback
• 50:58
  because I was talking
• 50:59
  >> Mr. Beast a little bit maybe
• 51:00
  >> because I was at You know how talking
• 51:02
  about we were recently You know how
• 51:04
  together? Yeah, cuz you were on my show
• 51:05
  maybe.
• 51:06
  >> Yes,
• 51:07
  >> we were talking about this.
• 51:08
  >> I don't know.
• 51:08
  >> My relationship to Mr. Beast. My
• 51:10
  biblical relation. No, no,
• 51:11
  >> wait. That sounds Wait,
• 51:13
  >> why? Why does this
• 51:15
  say more stuff? It's just that I didn't
• 51:17
  know who he was until I did Stavos's
• 51:20
  podcast because at the end of it, Stavos
• 51:23
  was like, "Hey,
• 51:25
  I have free chocolate. Do you guys want
• 51:27
  some?"
• 51:27
  >> Oh, it's festivals.
• 51:29
  >> I So Mr. Beast like sent him chocolate.
• 51:31
  What's a festival?
• 51:32
  >> That's Mr. Beast chocolate.
• 51:33
  >> Chocolate. It must have been that. So he
• 51:35
  like sent stuff like chocolate bars,
• 51:37
  like a box of
• 51:39
  >> And so anyway, that's how I learned who
• 51:41
  Mr. Beast was cuz I was like, "What?
• 51:43
  Like who's Mr. Beast?"
• 51:45
  So,
• 51:46
  >> I don't think maybe we talked about
• 51:48
  that, but I've been I've been doing a
• 51:49
  bunch of uh like threads about Mr.
• 51:52
  >> I really like your thread your thread
• 51:54
  tone.
• 51:56
  >> You know, you know what I try to I I
• 51:58
  appreciate that. I know what you're
• 51:59
  talking about. Um and I wish I could say
• 52:02
  the same, but I think the way that I
• 52:03
  maintain my thread tone is I don't look
• 52:06
  at threads because the [ __ ] Yeah.
• 52:08
  Yeah. The [ __ ] vibe there is dog
• 52:10
  [ __ ] Wait, also [ __ ] Sorry. We I feel
• 52:13
  like there's a lot of
• 52:13
  >> I had a circle back on.
• 52:14
  >> There's like threads in our conversation
• 52:16
  that I've
• 52:18
  >> I've derailed us from.
• 52:19
  >> Oh, no. No. Well, it's the idea of um
• 52:21
  it's something about Japan, but I forget
• 52:23
  what it was.
• 52:23
  >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, [ __ ]
• 52:24
  >> I had a joke about
• 52:25
  >> Japan. Japan. Japan.
• 52:26
  >> Japan. Japan.
• 52:27
  >> Japanese history. Do you have a joke
• 52:28
  about the Tokugawa shogunit?
• 52:30
  >> No, not about the Tokugawa shogunit, but
• 52:33
  Oh, you know what it was? Um, you know,
• 52:35
  when people were getting cancelled for
• 52:37
  like old racist tweets and stuff like
• 52:40
  that.
• 52:40
  >> Oh, yeah. I've sort of um several years
• 52:43
  ago I seated this uh idea uh where I was
• 52:49
  I kind of put out this apology for my
• 52:52
  future racist tweets uh about how uh
• 52:57
  like Japanese people have like really
• 52:58
  nice like powerful good toilets and
• 53:01
  whatnot.
• 53:02
  >> Yeah,
• 53:02
  >> that means they must all have really
• 53:04
  messy holes in Japanese or whatever.
• 53:06
  >> So funny. And so I've got this old tweet
• 53:08
  from like 2019 loaded up that's me
• 53:10
  apologizing for saying that about
• 53:12
  Japanese people. Uh and so then at some
• 53:15
  point I want to pull the trigger where I
• 53:18
  kind of do a
• 53:20
  >> like a racist thing about Japanese
• 53:22
  people have mess having messy buttholes.
• 53:25
  >> I think that's interesting, Benny.
• 53:26
  >> But the thing is that I I don't know if
• 53:28
  I don't know if right now is the right
• 53:30
  climate andor time,
• 53:31
  >> right? It's like the climate the climate
• 53:33
  was Biden's America.
• 53:34
  >> Yeah. because there's like a weird
• 53:36
  pendulum, you know.
• 53:37
  >> No, no, true. That was Trump's
• 53:38
  >> Yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, sorry.
• 53:40
  >> No, no, sorry. I don't mean to speak
• 53:42
  over you.
• 53:42
  >> No, no, no, no. I I I interrupted back
• 53:46
  cuz I was like the the first one was
• 53:47
  seated back in like first era of Trump
• 53:50
  >> Trump, right?
• 53:51
  >> But I kind of know what you mean. Like
• 53:52
  the era right now is like, okay, I feel
• 53:54
  like something I I have a few things to
• 53:57
  comment on, including toilets, so I'm
• 53:58
  going to put a pin in that. But the the
• 54:01
  thing about like comedy culture whatever
• 54:04
  like is like in the first Trump era and
• 54:07
  I I was like doing comedy in DC. So I
• 54:10
  just remember how a little bit how like
• 54:12
  the Trump interns and stuff like those
• 54:15
  people changed the landscape of comedy
• 54:18
  audiences like during the summers during
• 54:19
  Trump's DC. I remember that. But I think
• 54:23
  culturally broadly,
• 54:25
  comedy got like obviously really woke
• 54:29
  and reactionary towards Trump. And then
• 54:31
  there was like a few things like out of
• 54:33
  that which was like a reaction to that
• 54:35
  or like rolling eyes at like
• 54:38
  quote unquote woke comedy or like
• 54:41
  progressively or like progressive like
• 54:43
  claptoriented comedy. And I understand
• 54:45
  why those reactions happened even though
• 54:47
  there were like like you know like
• 54:49
  anti-PC
• 54:50
  >> likeuh trends even though that's like
• 54:54
  lame and not thoughtful like I
• 54:56
  understand how those grew out of like
• 54:58
  the first reaction to Trump and so I
• 55:00
  feel like but then so then I think now
• 55:03
  however the tone is getting so bizarre
• 55:06
  and fraught that it's like
• 55:08
  >> actually if somebody does something
• 55:10
  that's playing with PC lines
• 55:13
  >> I wonder if it just gets It's more
• 55:15
  politicized. It's like [ __ ] Like the
• 55:16
  tone right now
• 55:18
  >> this month is like [ __ ] everything's
• 55:20
  [ __ ]
• 55:22
  >> It's serious, right? So, it's funny like
• 55:24
  I was going to say like to play around
• 55:25
  with and I can feel that even when I'm
• 55:27
  being kind of a heel in the extent that
• 55:30
  I can be like if I have a joke about
• 55:32
  like
• 55:34
  like I have a joke about it's like
• 55:35
  stupid joke about how the reason I
• 55:36
  shouldn't have a gun but then I can just
• 55:38
  like feel more tension around it now or
• 55:40
  like and or like
• 55:42
  I have a joke a line about
• 55:46
  Obama
• 55:47
  and nature documentaries and how it's
• 55:51
  like oh here comes Obama once again. and
• 55:52
  he like narrated one. So, it's like here
• 55:54
  comes Obama once again claiming a white
• 55:56
  man's job,
• 55:57
  >> okay,
• 55:58
  >> and step aside, David Adamro. But the
• 56:00
  point is that now I feel more tension
• 56:02
  around that line just because of the
• 56:03
  like
• 56:05
  what's going on.
• 56:07
  >> And I feel like in Biden's America,
• 56:10
  people could be more like playfully
• 56:12
  racist,
• 56:13
  >> right? culturally.
• 56:14
  >> Oh, at least at least with what you're
• 56:15
  doing, there's like a there's a certain
• 56:17
  clear irony where now it's like the
• 56:20
  irony is like a little bit like people
• 56:21
  are like,
• 56:21
  >> "All right, hold on. What are we talking
• 56:23
  about?" And some people like for real
• 56:25
  believe XYZ thing in like an earnest way
• 56:28
  and it's like it's like dangerous. Um
• 56:31
  yeah, I do think um I think that under
• 56:34
  also I think we're uh
• 56:35
  >> sorry,
• 56:36
  >> we're coming close to an hour, but I um
• 56:37
  I think that under the first Trump
• 56:39
  administration um there was major major
• 56:43
  push back that happened in like the
• 56:47
  second year and then also again in like
• 56:49
  the fourth year.
• 56:50
  >> Right. Right. Interesting.
• 56:51
  >> Like the Me Too movement and all that
• 56:53
  cultural backlash was the second year in
• 56:56
  and then like the George Floyd protest
• 56:58
  etc was like the fourth fourth year,
• 57:00
  right? 2020.
• 57:01
  >> And I think right now into this new
• 57:02
  Trump thing, um like I think he's really
• 57:07
  seeding
• 57:08
  uh seed seeding uh not ceed but s e d uh
• 57:14
  seeding
• 57:14
  >> s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see.
• 57:15
  >> Planting the seeds. Um, there's a lot of
• 57:19
  [ __ ] cultural
• 57:22
  uh dog [ __ ] and kindling that I think
• 57:25
  like I think that like there's going to
• 57:26
  be mass I think there's going to be a
• 57:29
  mass protest and movement. I think
• 57:30
  something um we but there's like a we
• 57:32
  need like a spark or something.
• 57:34
  >> Yeah, I think that there will be a spark
• 57:36
  some kind of catalyst and it's a little
• 57:38
  bit like I don't
• 57:40
  >> it's like what is it going to be? Yeah.
• 57:41
  And at what cost? Like
• 57:43
  >> and in some stuff it's like, well, why
• 57:45
  is that not the spark yet? Or but I
• 57:47
  think there's a lot of there's a lot of
• 57:48
  like straws that are being put on the
• 57:51
  camel and it's like, damn, that camel's
• 57:52
  still going. But uh
• 57:54
  >> I know wild.
• 57:54
  >> They don't have but like uh you see
• 57:57
  videos of people getting abducted from
• 57:59
  their homes or not from their homes or
• 58:02
  whatever.
• 58:03
  >> From wherever. Yeah. Yeah.
• 58:04
  >> That stuff I know, right? And I'm Oh,
• 58:08
  that's my other thing. You asked me how
• 58:09
  I've been or what's new earlier.
• 58:11
  >> I've been really obsessed with like the
• 58:13
  Epstein stuff.
• 58:14
  >> Oh, yeah.
• 58:17
  >> Yeah. Pretty good.
• 58:19
  >> Yeah. No, that that I'm excited about.
• 58:22
  >> I know. I'm excited about it.
• 58:24
  >> I do think that and maybe you'll agree
• 58:26
  with me here. I do think that like a lot
• 58:29
  of this stuff uh
• 58:32
  maybe part of why stuff hasn't really
• 58:34
  like fully blown up quite yet is because
• 58:37
  as a culture collectively we're kind of
• 58:39
  going let's see what happens with that
• 58:41
  real quick. Let's just wait a second and
• 58:43
  see.
• 58:44
  >> Somebody's got the files. Are they going
• 58:46
  to come out? Like like I think like it'd
• 58:48
  be a little bit silly right now to do a
• 58:50
  mass um
• 58:53
  like movement until we have all the
• 58:56
  information. You know what I mean?
• 58:57
  >> Right.
• 58:58
  >> Like I don't know.
• 58:58
  >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
• 58:59
  Right. Right. And
• 59:02
  unnecessarily frame
• 59:06
  or like inaccurately frame Trump or
• 59:07
  something cuz that's just worst for
• 59:09
  worse for the left.
• 59:10
  >> Yeah. But that's there's almost I mean
• 59:13
  >> there's almost no [ __ ] way that like
• 59:15
  he's there like He's whatever. Anyway,
• 59:18
  >> I know. Sorry. I didn't mean to go on
• 59:19
  this. Something that I've been my new
• 59:22
  little thing is that I'll listen to
• 59:25
  >> the news like all day in kind of a
• 59:27
  hyperfocus way. That's like maybe
• 59:30
  unhealthy, but that's what I've been
• 59:31
  doing.
• 59:32
  >> This This is now pod save America, but I
• 59:34
  guess uh
• 59:36
  >> which I just discovered kind of. I think
• 59:38
  the guy's hot. Okay, continue.
• 59:40
  Just uh kind of the thought being though
• 59:42
  like you know if it does come out
• 59:44
  officially or whatever I think that that
• 59:46
  also will rally a lot of independence
• 59:50
  and such
• 59:51
  >> to be to like I think that like I think
• 59:54
  like we're just kind of waiting for like
• 59:55
  a stronger case to be made for the broad
• 59:57
  you know what I mean.
• 59:58
  >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
• 59:59
  >> Yeah.
• 1:00:01
  >> Also we're at about about an hour. I'm
• 1:00:03
  kind of wrapping up on my political
• 1:00:05
  point. Would you like to add to that
• 1:00:06
  political space? I kind of just ranted
• 1:00:08
  at the end.
• 1:00:08
  >> Oh uh no. Well, um there's like a few
• 1:00:12
  things that I feel like we started to
• 1:00:13
  talk about.
• 1:00:14
  >> Yeah. You got a couple tie up all your
• 1:00:16
  loose ends.
• 1:00:17
  >> We got Japan.
• 1:00:18
  >> Japan.
• 1:00:19
  >> We got formative stuff going on.
• 1:00:22
  >> No, I guess we just like went to a lot
• 1:00:23
  of, you know, like we would go, it's not
• 1:00:26
  like we were a huge camping family or
• 1:00:27
  that my parents are particularly
• 1:00:28
  outdoorsy, but we would go camping. They
• 1:00:30
  like definitely
• 1:00:33
  rose like um
• 1:00:37
  you know I was like really into crystals
• 1:00:39
  as a kid so I would get a lot of Yeah.
• 1:00:41
  Like into like in a geological sense. Oh
• 1:00:43
  my god. Look at all these rocks.
• 1:00:45
  >> Yeah.
• 1:00:45
  >> This is beautiful.
• 1:00:47
  >> Yeah. I feel like you and I had similar
• 1:00:49
  family values.
• 1:00:50
  >> Yeah. I was going to ask what like do
• 1:00:51
  you have a similar Oh, sorry to touch
• 1:00:53
  your snake.
• 1:00:53
  >> No, no, no, no. Please.
• 1:00:55
  >> Yeah. Yeah. I think so. What do you
• 1:00:57
  have? Like how how were you?
• 1:00:58
  >> I always loved like um like we would
• 1:01:01
  always go to like the natural history
• 1:01:02
  museum and stuff. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 1:01:04
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  >> That's really cool.
• 1:01:06
  >> That's them.
• 1:01:09
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the squad. Uh I
• 1:01:12
  forget what that was.
• 1:01:13
  >> Oh my god. It might be my 18th birthday
• 1:01:17
  or something.
• 1:01:17
  >> Oh yeah. Do you know where this was?
• 1:01:19
  >> Yeah. That's out of Benihana. Yeah. We
• 1:01:21
  went to for my 18th birthday.
• 1:01:22
  >> How cute. Wait, I met somebody. Did I
• 1:01:24
  meet Remember when we were in Philly?
• 1:01:26
  >> You might have met my sister.
• 1:01:28
  >> I think I met your sister. Yes.
• 1:01:30
  >> She was at the show.
• 1:01:31
  >> Yeah. When did I Which show did we do it
• 1:01:33
  in Philly together?
• 1:01:33
  >> It was like around a holiday. It was
• 1:01:34
  around Thanksgiving, I want to say,
• 1:01:36
  because Cameron was with you. He was
• 1:01:38
  like staying with your family.
• 1:01:39
  >> Oh. Um, in South Philly in uh
• 1:01:43
  >> Well, we did a show.
• 1:01:44
  >> It was at a house. It's like a like a
• 1:01:45
  jazz house show.
• 1:01:47
  >> What? This is awesome. No, no, we did a
• 1:01:48
  show together at what's it called? This
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  is that bar that's by Ridden House.
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  Fergies.
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  And then we went, sorry I just like
• 1:01:56
  touched the microphone. Um, then we went
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  to uh uh
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  >> this Irish bar near the art museum in
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  Burtown.
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  >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You my younger sister.
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  Yeah. Hannah. Yeah. It was me, you,
• 1:02:09
  David Fineberg, Lauren Ellis, Cameron
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  Bradford,
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  >> and some of my old friend. I forgot you
• 1:02:13
  were uh
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  >> really random that I was like part of I
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  don't think I was with anybody that I
• 1:02:19
  mean I know you guys,
• 1:02:21
  >> but Oh, I No, I know. My sister
• 1:02:24
  lives lives near there. So, yeah, my
• 1:02:27
  sister lives near the art museum.
• 1:02:28
  >> Oh, so does so does my sister.
• 1:02:30
  >> Oh, I maybe that came up.
• 1:02:34
  >> Yeah, maybe.
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  >> Interesting. That's where I was born
• 1:02:37
  over that way.
• 1:02:38
  >> Oh, really? Oh, how cool.
• 1:02:39
  >> Then we moved out to the
• 1:02:41
  >> to the Burbles.
• 1:02:42
  >> Yeah. Yeah.
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  >> Um interesting.
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  >> Near uh do you mind doxing which suburb
• 1:02:49
  is that?
• 1:02:50
  >> Oh, sure. Um um
• 1:02:52
  >> I was in Blue Bell.
• 1:02:53
  >> Okay. Blue Bell. I know because that's
• 1:02:54
  where I took driving lessons. So my
• 1:02:56
  parents are like Bidmar area. Like I uh
• 1:02:59
  >> they they live near Villanova and
• 1:03:02
  Bidmar.
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  >> So
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  >> cool. I kind of know I kind
• 1:03:08
  Lancaster Avenue or Moore.
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  >> Totally. Totally. I have a I have a fake
• 1:03:13
  I feel like I had a crush on a girl that
• 1:03:15
  went to Binmar or something.
• 1:03:17
  >> Oh yeah.
• 1:03:17
  >> Right. The Was that a private school
• 1:03:19
  that one? the
• 1:03:20
  >> BMAR is the university.
• 1:03:21
  >> Oh,
• 1:03:22
  >> but there's a few but there's a few like
• 1:03:24
  there are private also girls schools
• 1:03:27
  around there including Agnes Irwin and
• 1:03:28
  there's another one that starts with a B
• 1:03:29
  that I'm forgetting. And then I went to
• 1:03:31
  Radner High School.
• 1:03:33
  >> Oh, sure. I I knew some people at a
• 1:03:35
  synagogue who went to
• 1:03:36
  >> Oh, really? Small world.
• 1:03:38
  >> Yeah. I think we might be different
• 1:03:40
  ages, though.
• 1:03:41
  >> Yeah, I'm a little older, I think.
• 1:03:42
  >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:03:42
  >> I'm I'm 54.
• 1:03:46
  >> I'm 31. I don't know. I don't
• 1:03:47
  >> No, I'm 37.
• 1:03:48
  >> Okay. Yeah.
• 1:03:49
  >> So, so that means that maybe
• 1:03:52
  >> So, like I don't know. So, maybe like we
• 1:03:55
  So, obviously we didn't overlap in terms
• 1:03:57
  of high school years, but like
• 1:03:59
  >> Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  >> somebody maybe like a coach. Not that I
• 1:04:03
  played any sports, but like like like a
• 1:04:04
  coach went to your school that also
• 1:04:07
  coached like something along the
• 1:04:10
  >> theater. I bet if we like went through
• 1:04:11
  our Instagram friends, you'd be like
• 1:04:14
  there would be like a single one that
• 1:04:16
  would be like, "Oh, that guy. Oh my god.
• 1:04:18
  My
• 1:04:18
  >> You know what I mean?
• 1:04:19
  >> 20 year
• 1:04:22
  high school reunion is next year.
• 1:04:24
  >> Oh wow. Cool.
• 1:04:25
  >> My friends and I
• 1:04:26
  >> Do you like going to those?
• 1:04:27
  >> Uh no, but I've No, I have two things to
• 1:04:30
  say about that. I've only been to one
• 1:04:32
  cuz one of the other like the other one
• 1:04:34
  the like what like the 10 year I was in
• 1:04:37
  I think I was like doing comedy or
• 1:04:40
  something or but anyway I couldn't go.
• 1:04:41
  But then um the five year I went to and
• 1:04:44
  I remember it was like so crazy because
• 1:04:47
  nobody I also I didn't drink in high
• 1:04:49
  school. My friends and I were pretty
• 1:04:50
  nerdy but we had each other. And so my
• 1:04:53
  takeaway from the 5-year high school
• 1:04:55
  reunion was like everybody got really
• 1:04:58
  drunk but we were like kind of just we
• 1:05:00
  were like just out of college. Everybody
• 1:05:02
  got really drunk and nobody knew how to
• 1:05:04
  drink around each other cuz the last
• 1:05:05
  time we all knew each other we were like
• 1:05:07
  children really. So, it was such a
• 1:05:10
  weird, it was just like an extended
• 1:05:11
  party feeling that was kind of different
• 1:05:13
  cuz it was all these people that I had
• 1:05:15
  sort of forgot existed, but some people
• 1:05:16
  I still had like hang-ups about
• 1:05:18
  privately, you know, and then now I feel
• 1:05:22
  so I feel so far away and I have no real
• 1:05:24
  interest in anybody, but I do have like
• 1:05:27
  the genuine desire to
• 1:05:30
  just go and be really hot and
• 1:05:31
  successful.
• 1:05:33
  And I'm not kidding about that. Like
• 1:05:35
  that's the only reason I'm going. So, or
• 1:05:38
  kind of laugh with my friends about
• 1:05:39
  what's going on. But how about how about
• 1:05:40
  you? Have you been to one?
• 1:05:41
  >> I've been to five and 10 year. Yeah.
• 1:05:44
  >> Were they fun?
• 1:05:45
  >> I uh actually did really enjoy them
• 1:05:46
  because I felt like
• 1:05:47
  >> people grow up. I feel Yes. People grow
• 1:05:49
  up and um I mean I understand especially
• 1:05:52
  at the 10 year where it's like oh
• 1:05:54
  everybody is chilled out like the I mean
• 1:05:57
  the five year there were certainly still
• 1:05:58
  a little bit of hang-ups but
• 1:05:59
  >> did it have like a party feeling? That's
• 1:06:00
  what
• 1:06:01
  >> the fivey year was more Yeah. The five
• 1:06:02
  people were younger.
• 1:06:03
  >> You did a bar crawl for the 5y year.
• 1:06:05
  >> Right. Exactly.
• 1:06:06
  >> Absolutely. A party.
• 1:06:07
  >> But yeah, even then, sorry I speak over
• 1:06:09
  you.
• 1:06:09
  >> No, for sure. No, it's it still had a it
• 1:06:10
  still had a party vibe for the We also
• 1:06:12
  did a bar. We like rented out a bar for
• 1:06:14
  the tenure and like
• 1:06:16
  >> Oh, that sounds nice. It sounds honestly
• 1:06:17
  pretty nice.
• 1:06:18
  >> Absolutely. A party. I drank a bit. I
• 1:06:20
  don't us I try not to drink that much,
• 1:06:22
  but uh
• 1:06:22
  >> yeah,
• 1:06:23
  >> you know, seeing some old some of those
• 1:06:24
  old folks, you know, it's fun.
• 1:06:26
  >> Nice like opportunity, too. And I'm kind
• 1:06:28
  of I'm like sort of like
• 1:06:31
  >> I don't know. I wasn't bullied or
• 1:06:33
  anything. I was just pretty quiet and I
• 1:06:34
  had moved from Japan so I feel like I
• 1:06:35
  wasn't myself or didn't know like I felt
• 1:06:37
  so
• 1:06:41
  not perceived in high school which is
• 1:06:44
  okay with me
• 1:06:45
  >> which is okay with me at the time.
• 1:06:46
  >> I still don't need to be perceived by
• 1:06:48
  them but I'm feel so
• 1:06:52
  thankfully like not like that was my
• 1:06:54
  peak of my life you know.
• 1:06:55
  >> Oh yeah. And uh so I'm kind of curious
• 1:06:58
  about going there with my friends and
• 1:07:01
  obviously at my age too like a lot of
• 1:07:03
  people have not just a baby but you know
• 1:07:05
  several
• 1:07:06
  >> Oh yeah I thought that was really
• 1:07:07
  interesting where it's like I I at the
• 1:07:10
  10 year people were like engaged in
• 1:07:11
  stuff and then by 15 is uh
• 1:07:15
  >> Oh yeah. Is it coming up? Yeah. And so
• 1:07:17
  it's like um I think that'll be
• 1:07:18
  interesting to be like oh [ __ ]
• 1:07:19
  >> they're like kids
• 1:07:20
  >> like this is my child and I'm like oh
• 1:07:22
  [ __ ]
• 1:07:23
  >> Yeah. They've you see like people bring
• 1:07:25
  multiple kids and stuff like to
• 1:07:27
  >> Well, not cuz I've only been to the
• 1:07:28
  five-year, but I know that we're going
• 1:07:31
  next year. So, I know I know that my
• 1:07:33
  like I just know through the grapevine
• 1:07:36
  or a friend of mine or two, like
• 1:07:38
  everybody in my close friend group
• 1:07:39
  except for one person has a baby, one
• 1:07:41
  person has two. No, like one person has
• 1:07:44
  four kids. So, um yeah, I bet like
• 1:07:47
  that's pretty common. And I'll Yeah, I
• 1:07:51
  have to like
• 1:07:53
  Anyway, no, I'm curious.
• 1:07:54
  >> Yeah, that's fascinating. Well, I I
• 1:07:56
  could talk on this forever.
• 1:07:58
  >> Yeah, I'm sorry. We
• 1:07:59
  >> know what I mean. I in high school I was
• 1:08:00
  like a very divisive character.
• 1:08:02
  >> You were divisive.
• 1:08:02
  >> Oh, yeah. Interesting.
• 1:08:03
  >> I was doing a lot of like [ __ ]
• 1:08:07
  >> I was trying to be
• 1:08:08
  >> divisive in like a loved way.
• 1:08:10
  >> No, see that's the the divisive comes in
• 1:08:13
  where some people loved it, some people
• 1:08:15
  really hated me. What about faculty?
• 1:08:18
  >> That's going to be divisive as well.
• 1:08:19
  It's going to depend on the teacher. I I
• 1:08:21
  was doing a lot of like um like kind of
• 1:08:25
  prank oriented.
• 1:08:26
  >> Oh, I see. I see. I see. I can see that.
• 1:08:27
  You know what I mean? And that like some
• 1:08:28
  people some people will really if you if
• 1:08:31
  you liked what I who I was pranking and
• 1:08:33
  why and how then you like you know what
• 1:08:35
  I mean,
• 1:08:35
  >> right? That's so interesting. I can kind
• 1:08:37
  of
• 1:08:38
  >> I bet people had crushes on you cuz like
• 1:08:40
  people were drawn to that kind of
• 1:08:41
  energy, you know?
• 1:08:43
  I not the [ __ ] that's not something I
• 1:08:46
  was able to read at the time. I mean I
• 1:08:47
  did I had a high school girlfriend at
• 1:08:49
  the end.
• 1:08:49
  >> Oh yeah.
• 1:08:49
  >> But that's not something I
• 1:08:51
  >> like I like that's like I don't know
• 1:08:53
  when I learned how to read that. Do you
• 1:08:55
  know when you learned how to read that?
• 1:08:57
  >> I don't know cuz it's kind of
• 1:08:58
  interesting, right? Because it's like
• 1:08:59
  maybe gendered but also
• 1:09:03
  I didn't I was just like so quiet in
• 1:09:06
  high school that I don't think so. I I
• 1:09:09
  feel like I read I learned to read it
• 1:09:10
  maybe
• 1:09:13
  in middle later middle school, but I
• 1:09:15
  don't think I like had that much going
• 1:09:17
  on, you know, in high in high school at
• 1:09:18
  least. And I had this whole thing happen
• 1:09:21
  because like you're familiar with the
• 1:09:22
  general just like the mainline area of
• 1:09:24
  this like for high what year was it?
• 1:09:28
  Junior year. It was like this time where
• 1:09:32
  it was like sophomore semiformmal and I
• 1:09:34
  had not been asked out and
• 1:09:39
  um my and I had a my I was crying to my
• 1:09:43
  mom and she
• 1:09:46
  had this conversation with me about
• 1:09:47
  beauty standards and it's like a pretty
• 1:09:49
  white area
• 1:09:50
  >> and um like I didn't even I wasn't even
• 1:09:54
  aware of that really. It was like
• 1:09:56
  obviously it's a pretty white high
• 1:09:57
  school, somewhat diverse, but it's like
• 1:10:01
  and I had friends of color in my friend
• 1:10:03
  group, but like everybody else had been
• 1:10:06
  asked out on a date. So I just but I was
• 1:10:08
  also like very quiet and didn't really
• 1:10:09
  talk to boys that much either. So like,
• 1:10:11
  so this whole thing happened and then my
• 1:10:14
  friends arranged this guy to be my date,
• 1:10:17
  somebody that we knew or like the boys
• 1:10:19
  that they were friends with were friends
• 1:10:21
  with. And um I ended up he ended up
• 1:10:23
  being my little like boyfriend senior
• 1:10:25
  year, but you know, we were like
• 1:10:27
  children. But um that was like my main
• 1:10:31
  relationship to that stuff like I would
• 1:10:34
  think as still in high school. I was
• 1:10:36
  just really quiet and really enjoyed
• 1:10:39
  theater.
• 1:10:41
  But I feel like
• 1:10:42
  >> Did you do theater?
• 1:10:44
  >> Yeah.
• 1:10:44
  >> Okay.
• 1:10:45
  >> Like
• 1:10:48
  I like to an extent that I think that
• 1:10:50
  really helped me so much. It helped me
• 1:10:53
  like like I won some award at the end. I
• 1:10:55
  won this like workshop like actors
• 1:10:57
  workshop award and my mom thinks that it
• 1:10:59
  saved my life. I wasn't by any means
• 1:11:01
  like depressed. I think I was just
• 1:11:03
  really quiet and I think it was hard for
• 1:11:05
  me to adjust from coming from a small
• 1:11:08
  kind of like Monasuri type school, but
• 1:11:10
  for high school and middle schoolers in
• 1:11:12
  Japan to
• 1:11:13
  >> um
• 1:11:14
  >> like a big public high school. It was
• 1:11:16
  like really tough. So I feel like I was
• 1:11:18
  so not divisive like I was just like a
• 1:11:21
  quiet person like a little
• 1:11:24
  >> like a mouse.
• 1:11:25
  >> Church mouse.
• 1:11:25
  >> Yeah, I was a church mouse.
• 1:11:26
  >> That's fascinating. And now and now
• 1:11:28
  we're both
• 1:11:29
  >> on stage.
• 1:11:30
  >> What the hell? What the hell?
• 1:11:32
  >> Random
• 1:11:33
  >> folks.
• 1:11:34
  >> Anyway.
• 1:11:34
  >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:36
  >> Yeah. I mean, um, we kind of kept going
• 1:11:38
  because we had we had more to we had
• 1:11:41
  more to say. We had more to to chew on.
• 1:11:44
  >> Yeah.
• 1:11:44
  >> Uh, listen, I could keep going if you're
• 1:11:46
  interested.
• 1:11:47
  >> I have to sort out my life right now,
• 1:11:49
  >> but I appreciate the opportunity. I
• 1:11:51
  would otherwise.
• 1:11:52
  >> I Yes. And you know what I'll do is I'll
• 1:11:54
  I'll once this podcast if this ever has
• 1:11:59
  enough clout that people want to do it
• 1:12:00
  of their own valition, I'll ask you to
• 1:12:03
  come back in a group setting and then be
• 1:12:05
  fun.
• 1:12:05
  >> Then everybody will be like, "Yes, let's
• 1:12:06
  schedule it."
• 1:12:07
  >> That sounds Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think
• 1:12:09
  this is such a fun premise for podcast.
• 1:12:10
  >> Cloud is a bludgeon. Do you have
• 1:12:12
  anything to um
• 1:12:13
  >> and a blessing?
• 1:12:15
  >> Not a blessing. It's a budgeon.
• 1:12:16
  >> No, I said and a blessing. I heard you
• 1:12:18
  correctly. Not to
• 1:12:21
  >> sorry a blessing. I think cloud should
• 1:12:23
  be edible.
• 1:12:25
  >> What?
• 1:12:26
  >> I think clout should be edible.
• 1:12:28
  >> Yeah, it sounds like something that is
• 1:12:29
  edible. By the way,
• 1:12:31
  >> oh I spread clout on my
• 1:12:34
  >> toast or
• 1:12:35
  >> like if you have more clout, you should
• 1:12:36
  always be satiated,
• 1:12:38
  >> right? And if you have less clout in the
• 1:12:42
  true sense of the word, you are perhaps
• 1:12:45
  more satiated spiritually but less
• 1:12:47
  satiated like
• 1:12:50
  fiscally or in Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like
• 1:12:53
  >> No, I think it should literally be like
• 1:12:56
  food. Anyh who, I uh What do you have to
• 1:12:59
  >> Yeah. What do I have to promote?
• 1:13:03
  >> I have two things to promote.
• 1:13:04
  >> I'm out of my mind. One is that please
• 1:13:09
  I'm sorry. Can you watch my specials on
• 1:13:11
  YouTube? It's free. It's a half hour.
• 1:13:13
  >> I know you had a special.
• 1:13:14
  >> Oh yeah, it's a little free half hour.
• 1:13:15
  It's called um That is It got recently
• 1:13:19
  re-released through Comedy Dynamics, so
• 1:13:21
  it's re
• 1:13:24
  um touched up and everything. It's on
• 1:13:25
  YouTube. It's called That is My Horse.
• 1:13:28
  Um it's 30 minutes for free on
• 1:13:30
  YouTube.com. I filmed it in Raleigh and
• 1:13:32
  Dun, North Carolina. And um secondly,
• 1:13:36
  um I'm going to be at Union Hall
• 1:13:38
  headlining on September
• 1:13:43
  22nd. It's a Monday, 7:30 p.m.
• 1:13:46
  >> I'll put the link to Britney's special
• 1:13:48
  in the thingy. I'll also watch it. I got
• 1:13:50
  to check that out.
• 1:13:51
  >> Oh, thanks. Yeah,
• 1:13:52
  >> go to the
• 1:13:53
  >> uh Yes, go to the show. Oh, wait. Also,
• 1:13:55
  I'm going to be I always forget to do
• 1:13:57
  this. I'm gonna be in uh Denver and
• 1:14:00
  Chicago and San Francisco in September.
• 1:14:04
  Come on out.
• 1:14:05
  >> Bye. I should I should always I should
• 1:14:07
  do that at the beginning or whatever.
• 1:14:08
  Anyway, peace.
• 1:14:10
  >> Bye. Keep it crispy. Okay. Okay. Thanks
• 1:14:13
  so much for having me.