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Introducing Continental Football League · Sports Exchange

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Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we have a couple of new faces on air that
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Speaker 1: we're looking to be a part of this program as
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Speaker 1: we continue to expand the Sports Exchange and I want
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Speaker 1: to bring in some new talent to go along with
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Speaker 1: the holdovers. First of all, I want to introduce Marky Bilson,
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Speaker 1: who I got to know over the National Sports Media Association,
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Speaker 1: and he's going to be joining us on Wednesday nights
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Speaker 1: at around nine o'clock for about an hour. That is
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Speaker 1: what we're looking at. Marky, give everybody a little bit
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Speaker 1: of an overview about yourself.
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Speaker 2: Oh well, let's see here. I am a former sports
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Speaker 2: writer for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette currently do a podcast
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Speaker 2: on East Tennessee State sports. I know that's a big
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Speaker 2: difference right there, but no, you have to understand that
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Speaker 2: I have, as a working member of the sports media,
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Speaker 2: been around the country a lot. So yes, my first
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Speaker 2: love was always Pittsburgh sports and writing with the Post
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Speaker 2: Gazette and doing some other things up there, covering the Steelers,
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Speaker 2: covering the pit Panthers, that sort of thing for a while.
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Speaker 2: But also my family matriculated to Johnson City, Tennessee. So
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Speaker 2: I wound up graduating from ETSU and was somewhat frustrated
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Speaker 2: in the Tri Cities with what I thought was an
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Speaker 2: apologetic treatment of the sports down there. Hosted a sports
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Speaker 2: talk show there for three years, and since then I've
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Speaker 2: been in Florida, where I do remotely my ETSU podcast from,
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Speaker 2: and i've been here it at a house down here. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: people like living in Florida the warm way, although I've
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Speaker 2: turned into a total whimp who thinks fifty nine degrees
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Speaker 2: is now cold. So that's a little bit of the
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Speaker 2: background of myself. Also some play by play of minor
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Speaker 2: league baseball, many different things along the way that I'm
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Speaker 2: sure that I'll say, you know, when I was doing this,
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll hear me make comments like that from
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Speaker 2: time to time.
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Speaker 3: Marty, what part of the state.
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Speaker 2: It's Marquee like Marquy like, not Martin, but Marcus is
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Speaker 2: the full name. But central Florida, that's fine. Central Florida,
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Speaker 2: a little bit between Orlando and Tampa, a little bit
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Speaker 2: south if you will, Polk County to be exact. Although
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Speaker 2: right now I'm over the line in Hillsboro where I'm
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Speaker 2: talking to you from today, but just barely.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, let's go on. Let's go on to Mike Kelly.
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Speaker 1: I've been in contact with Mike for I think late September, right, Mike,
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Speaker 1: and now we file it. I know you're busy trying
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Speaker 1: to get some loose ends tied up, and now we're
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Speaker 1: reab to get you on the show. And I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you're going to be in a contribute around here. Give
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Speaker 1: everybody a little background on there, and we are gonna
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Speaker 1: let the guys be able to ask you some questions
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Speaker 1: about the football League after I get done with some
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Speaker 1: of the agenda items. Go ahead, Mike the Floorisa, perfect.
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Speaker 4: Look, I appreciate that you've been as persistent as you
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Speaker 4: have to get me on here. It's really humbling. But
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Speaker 4: I spent my whole life in football. I coached at
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Speaker 4: at the collegiate level, started out in Ohio and then
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Speaker 4: moved down to San Francisco State, where my life really changed.
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Speaker 4: And if you if you look at football backgrounds, some
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Speaker 4: guys that have coached at San Francisco State or guys
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Speaker 4: like Andy Reid, Mike Holgram, Dirk Cutter, uh and so
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Speaker 4: I was able to be introduced to those guys and
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Speaker 4: from San Francisco State. I went on to become the
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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in the Canadian
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Speaker 4: Football League and I had a highly successful five year run.
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Speaker 4: In a single game, just one of the things that
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Speaker 4: they're going to tag me with all the time, is
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Speaker 4: it in a single game. And remember now this is
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Speaker 4: three down football and the clock is running at twenty
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Speaker 4: seconds in between. We threw for seven hundred and thirteen
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Speaker 4: yards in one game, beating the team that beat us
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Speaker 4: the year before in the Great Cup Championship. So from there,
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Speaker 4: I went on to Valdosta State University in Georgia. I
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Speaker 4: was down there for three years. Then I moved on
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Speaker 4: to the XFL, the original XFL in Orlando. I was
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Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator there under Galen Hall, which was just
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Speaker 4: a tremendous experience. And unfortunately Egos got involved with the
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Speaker 4: XFL and they shut us down after we had gone
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Speaker 4: eight and two, had the best record in the league,
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Speaker 4: and I got a call from Andy Reid and so
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Speaker 4: off to the Philadelphia Eagles I went. I was fortunate
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Speaker 4: enough to coach in the Pro Bowl with them. I
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Speaker 4: ended up going with the Washington Redskins and worked in
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Speaker 4: pro personnel for Steve Spurrier and Joe Gibbs. And then
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Speaker 4: to be transparent, you know, the the NFL is a
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Speaker 4: tough place to raise a family, so I, you know,
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Speaker 4: I wanted to show that I could do something else,
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Speaker 4: and I became an original professor of sport management at
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Speaker 4: Drexel University in downtown Philadelphia. And I did that for
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Speaker 4: three years. And while I was doing that, I would
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Speaker 4: go over to NFL Films and I broke down film
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Speaker 4: for Ron Jaworski, for Greg co sal got, you know,
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Speaker 4: helped run out with Monday Night Football. And so I
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Speaker 4: did work there and then the CFL called me back
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Speaker 4: and so off to the Edmonton Eskimos. I went as
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Speaker 4: a receiver coach, and the next year I became the
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Speaker 4: head coach and general manager of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.
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Speaker 4: So but but I've also been the head coach at
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Speaker 4: Widner University, the home of Billy White Shoes. Johnson took
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Speaker 4: a team. One team went twelve and one we went
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Speaker 4: to the Elite eight. And I've also represented NFL players,
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Speaker 4: getting them prepared to go to the combat. So I've
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Speaker 4: done a little bit of everything, and I'm excited about
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Speaker 4: this next chapter here and being the commissioner of the
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Speaker 4: Continental Football League.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, we're excited, Mike, to have you
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Speaker 1: as our football analysts as well on these shows on
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Speaker 1: Wednesday nights. I know that's what you told me. You
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Speaker 1: have free so whether it's fifteen minutes an hour, that
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Speaker 1: just determined based on what text messages we have of
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Speaker 1: what time you're available. So sure I have a football
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Speaker 1: expert like you are that could cover so many different things.
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Speaker 1: I feel very, very fortunate that my persistence its pay
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Speaker 1: out to get you on today, and now when I
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Speaker 1: find somebody like you, my goal is to find a
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Speaker 1: way to continue to work with them. It doesn't hurt.
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Speaker 1: You're in Florida, so Katie and I can hang out
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Speaker 1: with you and get something neat and then we could
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Speaker 1: talk football and make plans how we could grow your
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Speaker 1: league and continue to build on our platform as well.
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Speaker 1: All right, with all the introductions said, let's get to
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Speaker 1: a few topics. Anyways, Our toutof time hopefully is about
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock Eastern time, but our first topic of the
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Speaker 1: night goes to the fact that when Ohio beat New
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Speaker 1: mass by twenty eight points with Ohio's quarterback only throwing
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Speaker 1: twenty eight yards. His name was Navarrol. I don't have
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Speaker 1: the first name, Candy to look him up. Well, here
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Speaker 1: thoughts about a quarterback Mike throwing for only twenty eight
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Speaker 1: yards in the game. And let's say, so we know
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Speaker 1: Massachusetts wasn't very good and Ohio was pretty good. But
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Speaker 1: twenty eight yards? How is that possible? Mike?
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, if you're running the football, it doesn't matter,
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Speaker 4: you know. I can remember a game in the XFL.
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Speaker 4: We were playing Birmingham and we only and Jeff Brown
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Speaker 4: was our quarterback, the head coach of the University of Louisville,
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Speaker 4: and he was the first team All XFL. But in
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Speaker 4: that game, we only threw four passes the whole second half.
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Speaker 4: And I can remember gaaland Hall saying to me over
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Speaker 4: the headset. He goes, you think you're going to the
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Speaker 4: well once too often with this run game, And I said,
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Speaker 4: until that bucket comes up dry, I'm going to keep
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Speaker 4: dipping it down into that well every run play. We're
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Speaker 4: ripping off seven to nine yards, so why throw it?
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Speaker 4: And when we did throw it, the four times we did,
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Speaker 4: it was all off of play action, and every throw
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Speaker 4: was a completion for over twenty yards. So you know,
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Speaker 4: I don't have any problem people get too wrapped up
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Speaker 4: with it. All they threw for this many yards, and
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Speaker 4: you know, I said it myself when I was talking
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Speaker 4: about our seven thirteen, but I also held it was
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Speaker 4: part of the record with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in
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Speaker 4: the most rushing yards for a single player in a
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Speaker 4: game of two hundred and sixty. So you do what
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Speaker 4: you have to do to win. And certainly when Ohio
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Speaker 4: State is playing, was it Ohio State or Ohio this
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Speaker 4: was in Ohio. Look, if you're if you're winning the
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Speaker 4: game and you got it under control, and you don't
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Speaker 4: need to embarrass anybody, just keep doing what you're doing.
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Speaker 4: So twenty eight yards passing that really doesn't mean anything
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Speaker 4: to me. If they were running the ball well and
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Speaker 4: they won the game, because that's what the bottom line is,
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Speaker 4: win the game. If you have to throw it, throw it.
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Speaker 4: If you run it, run it. But you know, I
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Speaker 4: think too many people get tied up, especially in this
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Speaker 4: day and age, of having some kind of identity in
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Speaker 4: some cutesy little name of their offense, and they got
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Speaker 4: to make sure that they they uphold the marketing of it.
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Speaker 4: To me, it's about winning. I don't care how you
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Speaker 4: do it.
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Speaker 1: So good, I expected a very detailed explanation for a
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Speaker 1: guy that knows football with compact of his hand. Right, So,
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Speaker 1: all right, Marky, all your thoughts about this.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'd have to know more about the context of it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when you have twenty eight yards passing,
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Speaker 2: if it's on four yards or if it's on four passes,
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Speaker 2: excuse me, I mean that's seven yards of pass and
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Speaker 2: you know that's not a bad average right there. That's
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Speaker 2: about what you want to try to hit. But if
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Speaker 2: you're presenting it just as twenty eight yards, I mean,
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Speaker 2: the first thing I would think of is, yeah, the
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Speaker 2: guy did not have a very good day. I'm reminded,
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Speaker 2: and I've told you I football historian a bit. But
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day way back in nineteen seventy six, when OJ
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Speaker 2: Simpson rushed for two hundred and seventy five yards against
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Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions, the Bills quarterback really threw for twenty
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Speaker 2: nine yards that day. I think they only completed four
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Speaker 2: passes something like that, and the and the Bills got
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Speaker 2: routed by the Lions. I mean, as good as oj was,
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Speaker 2: and he was their only ticket, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 2: they just when it's a one dimensional thing like that.
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Speaker 2: I believe the final with a was something like twenty
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Speaker 2: seven to seven, forgive me and all that. But what
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Speaker 2: people remember is that the Bills had one weapon that day.
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Speaker 2: They used it for an NFL record of rushing yardage
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Speaker 2: of the time, and that's primarily because they only had
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Speaker 2: twenty nine yards pass and so Ohio had only twenty eight. Again,
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Speaker 2: you'd have to know the context, and he threw only
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Speaker 2: one pass. But yeah, it doesn't sound too good on
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Speaker 2: the outset.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kendy, did you get this kid's name? His name
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Speaker 1: was never right, Parker Navarro. He actually was three of
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Speaker 1: eight for twenty eight yards, eight.
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Speaker 2: For twenty eight yards, three and a half yards pass
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Speaker 2: per pass. Not the greatest, but yeah.
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Speaker 3: But he contributed heavily on the ground with fourteen rushes
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Speaker 3: for eighty one yards and two touchdowns. In that specific
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Speaker 3: game you have, and a different game that you're against
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Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan, he threw for three hundred and fifteen yards. So,
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Speaker 3: as Mike said, you got to do whatever you can
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Speaker 3: to win the game. So in that game it was.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what the weather was like.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes the weather plays a factor and how many times
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Speaker 3: you're passing or if you're running the game, running the ball.
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Speaker 3: So just gotta do what you can to win the.
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Speaker 1: Game, all right, Marvin, you've got the last word on this.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, really you're speaking to the evolution of the game really,
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Speaker 5: you know, because I think in today's world where it's
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Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes and Lamar Jackson and you got the dynamic
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Speaker 5: quarter backs back and you know, gone to the Sean
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Speaker 5: McVay sexy offense. I mean, it's all about you know,
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Speaker 5: those numbers, you know, And we've gotten away from the
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Speaker 5: idea that you can win the ball running and running
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Speaker 5: and running the win the game running the ball, just
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Speaker 5: like Seattle did, run the ball and play defense.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 5: It's the game is really that simple, you know. But again,
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Speaker 5: the game has evolved, and now nowadays it's weird to
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Speaker 5: hear a quarterback only had twenty eight yards passing. That
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Speaker 5: doesn't even sound realistic, you know, in this era of football.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's odd, man. But but again it
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Speaker 5: just goes to show you that you can still win
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Speaker 5: this game at a high level just running the ball.
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Speaker 1: All right, you know what I'm going to bring out
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Speaker 1: just to get much orientated with the show. Normally I
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Speaker 1: have more than one non sports topic, but tonight, because
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Speaker 1: I knew we want to talk about his league, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go to one non sports topic. Okay ready,
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Speaker 1: because the unpredictability factor that I have on the show
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Speaker 1: for those that have been out of it all the time,
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Speaker 1: Ye Candy wall say, you never know what he's done
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Speaker 1: for Vegas? Are sorry?
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Speaker 6: Spark topy of the like people, Sweden has the only
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Speaker 6: ski through McDonald's. My goodness, Sweden and McDonald Mike, what
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Speaker 6: do you think about that?
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Speaker 4: Well? Uh, after every college football game I ever played,
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Speaker 4: they gave us two Big max in order of fries
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Speaker 4: and a coke. So I haven't eaten McDonald's pretty much
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Speaker 4: since nineteen seventy nine. So if somebody wants to ski
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Speaker 4: right through uh a McDonald's, Hey, And that's that's what
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Speaker 4: they're used to, that's their their lifestyle in that area
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Speaker 4: that I think that's pretty freaking cool because if you
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Speaker 4: can go with getting ski through there and get a
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Speaker 4: hamburger and a coffee, wed sounds like a good day
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Speaker 4: to me say, you look.
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Speaker 1: At this guy. I like him. Don't worry? Are you
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Speaker 1: getting off easy? When when I brought Marvinott for the
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Speaker 1: first time he got a steady diet of Charlie Tark,
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Speaker 1: he said, oh my god, what do I get it?
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Speaker 1: Get to? But you get off easy?
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Speaker 6: Was skiing and and McDonald not a bad thing?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 4: Look, I've spent you know, over half my life going
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Speaker 4: back and forth into Canada. And I was up there
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Speaker 4: in January and we had we had nights that the
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Speaker 4: actual temperature was minus thirty five fahrenheit. But you know what,
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Speaker 4: those folks up there, they embrace it. They know how
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Speaker 4: to handle it. They've got good clothes, and I'm sure
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Speaker 4: Sweden is the same way. Just make sure you don't
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Speaker 4: get any secret sauce on your snow gear and you're
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Speaker 4: good to go.
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Speaker 1: I tell you, like I don't don't worry though, when
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Speaker 1: you come out teach their shows with these, I make
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Speaker 1: a little bit more tougher. But this one, I thought,
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Speaker 1: because we're just coming off the Winter Olympics, that I
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Speaker 1: thought I throw skiing and Sweden and McDonald's all one shot. Okay, Marky,
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Speaker 1: Now your first time with nonsports so I prepped you
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Speaker 1: earlier day.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, at first I thought you said a
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Speaker 2: see through McDonald's. No, I was thinking, I mean, what
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Speaker 2: was it all last? Not golden arches, but crystal That
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Speaker 2: was my first that would ski through. And then I
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Speaker 2: thought this was a rather brilliant aspect for Sweden because
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Speaker 2: I you know, if you look at the history of
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Speaker 2: fast food, Wendy's actually made it in nineteen sixty nine.
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Speaker 2: They were the first to really offer a drive through window,
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Speaker 2: a pickup window. How did they meet or the challenge
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Speaker 2: when McDonald's burger king Berger chef was how did they
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Speaker 2: get their niche among all those restaurants of the time
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Speaker 2: they offered transportation you could pick it up. I'm assuming
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Speaker 2: this McDonald's is by a ski slope and they're catering
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Speaker 2: to their customers, And that sounds like a pretty good
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Speaker 2: idea to me for a good business there in Sweden
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Speaker 2: to have a ski through window and all this. And
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Speaker 2: for that matter, I mean, whenever I go through Chick
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Speaker 2: fil A, it's always so clogged up. So to have
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Speaker 2: one lane not having the skiers, I think that, you know,
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Speaker 2: can increase in the traffic flow.
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Speaker 7: That's pretty good I'll tell you, Marky, I'm impressed too.
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Speaker 7: I got two guys I'm impressed with. All right, can't
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Speaker 7: you when you talked about this, These two guys are unbelievable.
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Speaker 7: As Jimmy Walker would say in good times, they're dynamite.
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Speaker 1: There you go, Mike, that's.
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Speaker 2: The historical references to the old day for years ago.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, there we go.
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Speaker 1: Let's see your dynamite. What the heck do you want
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Speaker 1: me to say? I think this is stuff. Oh don't worry,
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Speaker 1: we get it gets worse than this here with some
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Speaker 1: of the football stuff. I had to break y'all in
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Speaker 1: the easy high candy.
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Speaker 3: The world's only ski through McDonald's is known as Mixed Ski,
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Speaker 3: is located on the slopes of lynn Vallin in Sale Salem, Sweden.
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Speaker 3: It's been operating there since nineteen ninety six. The unique
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Speaker 3: location allows skiers and snowboarders to glide up to the
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Speaker 3: service window to order, pay, and receive their food without
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Speaker 3: removing their gear.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 3: It features a specialized window operating similar to a drive through,
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Speaker 3: with one hundred and forty indoor seats available indoor. The
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Speaker 3: interiors design like a rustic Swedish hunting lodge and it
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Speaker 3: is only open during the winter ski season. I think
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Speaker 3: it's a I think it's a cool idea because if
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Speaker 3: you get hungry or thirsty when you're skiing and stuff
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Speaker 3: like that, why not, you know, put something up there. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: since it's been operating since nineteen ninety six, it has
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Speaker 3: to be successful or they would have done away with
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Speaker 3: it a long time ago. Even though people want to
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Speaker 3: eat healthy these days.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Marvin, Yeah, so jumping on what Candy said
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Speaker 5: about eating healthy. To me, it's such a contradiction. You know,
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Speaker 5: I haven't been skiing, but I would think i'd be
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Speaker 5: out there enjoying the fresh air. Such a healthy thing
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Speaker 5: to do, you know, this is part of the healthy
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Speaker 5: lifestyle on exercising. McDonald's is poison, And it's just why
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Speaker 5: would you know the idea of being out there in
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Speaker 5: the fresh air in the Alps, Norway wherever you're at,
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Speaker 5: and you're enjoying that, but you're putting this poison in
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Speaker 5: your body. You should be drinking like a water or
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Speaker 5: something like that. You know, It's just it doesn't it
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Speaker 5: doesn't really make sense. I don't get it. But it's
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Speaker 5: working and it's making money. So that's the bottom line, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Okay, great stuff. I like hearing the different opinions, especially
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Speaker 1: on this. So Mike, when next time you come on here,
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Speaker 1: you'll understand when I go off the wall topics. This
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Speaker 1: is how much. This is a fun part of the
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Speaker 1: show where nobody will ever really get.
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Speaker 4: Used to some of the stuff. I was gonna be
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Speaker 4: talking about ski through McDonald's tonight. I'm ready, man, I
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Speaker 4: got tap shoes on them. I'm ready to go.
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Speaker 1: I gotta do this for Mike. As this time goes
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Speaker 1: on and you keep preparing on these shows, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: see that my that my one liners and topics are
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Speaker 1: like Canada, they go far and wide. So let's go
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Speaker 1: back to the NFL and this is just something that's
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Speaker 1: this a sad situation that Fred Taylor did not make
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame yet again so he could. His
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Speaker 1: numbers were eleven thousand, six hundred ninety five yards rushing touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: He had sixty six rush yards per game, seventy six
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Speaker 1: point four and four point six yards per attempt. Okay, Marvin,
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Speaker 1: why don't you start off with him when you're talking
19:24
Speaker 1: about Fred Taylor not making it to the Hall of Fame.
19:27
Speaker 5: Well, the first thing I think of is Roger Craig
19:30
Speaker 5: just got in, you know, and this guy had to
19:32
Speaker 5: wait how many years to get in. And we're talking about,
19:34
Speaker 5: you know, one of the most impactful running backs in
19:36
Speaker 5: the history of the game, you know, rushing and receiving
19:39
Speaker 5: for one thousand yards each and one season. This guy
19:42
Speaker 5: as a running back, you know, was part of the
19:44
Speaker 5: foundation behind Bill WASH's you know amazing West Coast offense
19:48
Speaker 5: led by Joe Montana. And you know, Fred Taylor was
19:51
Speaker 5: an amazing back. I mean this this guy ran hard.
19:53
Speaker 5: He played the game the way the game should be played.
19:56
Speaker 5: In spite of so many injuries, he still put up
19:58
Speaker 5: ridiculous numbers. And he he missed a lot of time.
20:00
Speaker 5: I mean he missed, He missed real games. So it's
20:03
Speaker 5: really remarkable to think that he's above ten thousand yards
20:06
Speaker 5: in rushing. And yeah, I mean he's a guy who
20:09
Speaker 5: I think is probably Hall of Fame worthy. But you know,
20:12
Speaker 5: there's such a backlog and the way that they categor
20:15
Speaker 5: guize the players now, you know, they make it much
20:17
Speaker 5: more difficult to get in. I don't know that Fred
20:21
Speaker 5: Tayler's gonna make the Hall of Fame. To be honest
20:22
Speaker 5: with you, it would I wouldn't be shocked if he did.
20:25
Speaker 5: It wouldn't bother me. But when you look at the
20:27
Speaker 5: guys who are still on the list, and you look
20:29
Speaker 5: at the guys who who've had you know, impact and
20:31
Speaker 5: haven't haven't gotten in yet, you know, I think this
20:35
Speaker 5: is something that I fower him, and the Hall of
20:37
Speaker 5: Fame was one of my dreams. I'd be concerned, you know.
20:40
Speaker 5: So it's it's it's tough, man. They got to figure
20:43
Speaker 5: out a new way. First of all, the voting itself.
20:45
Speaker 5: I have an issue, uh with the voters. I'm a
20:49
Speaker 5: guy who thinks that Belichick Craft should have you know,
20:51
Speaker 5: should have got in first year, you know, for first
20:54
Speaker 5: time up. So you know, I have an issue. What
20:58
Speaker 5: what what the what the voters are really looking at?
21:02
Speaker 5: You know, what's what are their metrics? What are you know,
21:04
Speaker 5: what they're reasoning? You know a lot of it's subjective,
21:06
Speaker 5: and people's feelings get involved, unfortunately, and it becomes an
21:09
Speaker 5: emotional situation, I think. But Fred's a guy who played hard,
21:13
Speaker 5: you know, and I could see him getting in there, uh,
21:16
Speaker 5: based upon what he's done. But again with the backlog
21:19
Speaker 5: and the way they do it now, he might not
21:21
Speaker 5: make it.
21:22
Speaker 1: I remember when I was covering a Super Bowl, Lloyd
21:25
Speaker 1: Little finally got after and after so much time, and
21:29
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, Yes, it's Earl says should be in the
21:32
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He's Fates of the Jacksonville Jaguars. He
21:36
Speaker 1: really is, so just keeping my fingers crossing he does
21:39
Speaker 1: get in. Mike, what are your thoughts about Fred Taylor?
21:41
Speaker 4: Well, you know, eleven thousand yards is astronomical, I mean,
21:45
Speaker 4: and that's a hard thing to do, and particularly in
21:47
Speaker 4: the National Football League, that you were able to sustain
21:50
Speaker 4: your health long enough to be able to produce like that.
21:54
Speaker 1: But hall of.
21:55
Speaker 4: Fames are a funny, funny thing. I think Marvin hit
21:59
Speaker 4: on some really good points there that the voting is
22:03
Speaker 4: so subjective. People get their emotions involved in it, and
22:08
Speaker 4: it's a tough thing. And you know, I found in
22:11
Speaker 4: my life that if you're just oh, I got to
22:14
Speaker 4: get into the Hall of Fame. And I've had players,
22:16
Speaker 4: you know, from the Canadian Football League say hey, can
22:18
Speaker 4: you help me get in the Hall of Fame, And really, honestly, no,
22:22
Speaker 4: because it's got to be an organic thing. It's got
22:24
Speaker 4: to naturally happen. You're not going to force yourself into
22:27
Speaker 4: a hall of fame, you know. I'll just I'll use
22:32
Speaker 4: an personal example here. I'm in the county Hall of
22:37
Speaker 4: Fame where I went to high school in Indiana. They
22:39
Speaker 4: didn't put me in it for twenty years. I'm in
22:41
Speaker 4: my university's Hall of Fame. They didn't put me in
22:44
Speaker 4: it for twenty two years. My daughter got put in
22:47
Speaker 4: her college's Hall of Fame, first ballot, unanimous choice, five
22:52
Speaker 4: years after she graduated. So you know, it's going to
22:55
Speaker 4: be a subjective thing. There's so many players now that
22:59
Speaker 4: are worthy. How do how do you really filter through that?
23:03
Speaker 4: And so I understand the conversation. I understand how people
23:10
Speaker 4: get disappointed that they're not into a Hall of fame yet.
23:14
Speaker 4: But also it's so subjective. You don't know how some
23:19
Speaker 4: of these people are thinking. And you got to just
23:23
Speaker 4: kind of flow with it, and you can't make yourself
23:24
Speaker 4: nuts with it, Okay, Markie.
23:29
Speaker 2: I would ask if I can be so bold as
23:32
Speaker 2: ask the board at one time and say the Baseball
23:35
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, five hundred home runs would be considered
23:40
Speaker 2: to be you know, automatic, you're in if you had
23:43
Speaker 2: five hundred home runs, and I'm wondering if ten thousand
23:47
Speaker 2: yards rushing isn't the same, that's ten one thousand yard
23:54
Speaker 2: season or you know, ten one thousand yard seasons? Should
23:57
Speaker 2: that be that sort of baronmeter of the Hall of Fame?
24:02
Speaker 2: It's a question I'm asking, or have we gotten to
24:05
Speaker 2: the point with seventeen game seasons that now ten thousand yards?
24:10
Speaker 2: Nice even number, but is it truly greatness? That's the question.
24:17
Speaker 2: If you think ten thousand yards is the number, I
24:22
Speaker 2: have no problem with Fred Taylor in the Hall of Fame.
24:24
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be in my first select. He wouldn't be
24:27
Speaker 2: that sort of how should we say this the first
24:32
Speaker 2: guy that I would have thought I would have Actually,
24:34
Speaker 2: if there's one guy that I think is sitting out
24:36
Speaker 2: there that deserves to be in that isn't I would
24:39
Speaker 2: say Jim Marshall, the old Purple People leaders with the
24:43
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings who played twenty years and you know, I
24:47
Speaker 2: mean he played twenty years for Super Bowls. The Purple
24:51
Speaker 2: People leaders were one of the great defensive lines of
24:54
Speaker 2: all time, and to me, even more than Alan Paige,
24:57
Speaker 2: Jim seemed, because of Marshall's longevity that he was the
25:02
Speaker 2: key figure to me of that defense, if you will,
25:06
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if defensive linemen have a trouble getting into
25:10
Speaker 2: the Hall sometimes or at least in sets. I mean,
25:13
Speaker 2: we think of great defensive lines, like the Purple People leaders,
25:16
Speaker 2: like the Fearsome Foursome. Well, the Steel Curtain only has
25:20
Speaker 2: one member in. Where's Elsie Greenwood? Only Joe green is
25:24
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame? If that's homes in, Dwight
25:26
Speaker 2: White or not? And Elsie Greenwood, who also was up,
25:29
Speaker 2: did not get in.
25:31
Speaker 4: One thing.
25:31
Speaker 2: I'd like to also just say, remember about Bill Belichick,
25:34
Speaker 2: and I just like to throw this out. I understand
25:37
Speaker 2: totally six Super Bowls you think he ought to be in.
25:40
Speaker 2: But at the same time, just going over to baseball,
25:42
Speaker 2: you would say, Okay, Barry Bond seven hundred and sixty
25:47
Speaker 2: two home runs doesn't key belong in? What about you know?
25:51
Speaker 2: But the idea he cheated with steroids? Does the six
25:56
Speaker 2: Super Bowls? But maybe done with signs, stealing with video camera?
26:00
Speaker 2: Does that prevent him at least from being the first
26:02
Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer? You know, I don't know if
26:06
Speaker 2: Bonds will ever get in. Belichick. I think sooner or
26:09
Speaker 2: later will but that might be the penalty for him
26:14
Speaker 2: for the way he won the Super Bowls.
26:18
Speaker 1: Fair enough, good points, all the way. On all right,
26:21
Speaker 1: mart Mike, I called on you already about this, didn't I?
26:24
Speaker 4: Yep?
26:25
Speaker 1: Okay, just because one.
26:29
Speaker 3: You called on him too, I'm the only one that
26:31
Speaker 3: hasn't gone yet.
26:32
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, go ahead, Katie.
26:34
Speaker 3: Marky to your point, they say, twelve thousand yards is
26:40
Speaker 3: the benchmark. Ten thousand and twelve thousand is considered the
26:45
Speaker 3: bubble range, with many deserving players wait years for consideration.
26:52
Speaker 3: The one thing, the one person I would bring to
26:57
Speaker 3: attention has less than that. Erald Davis. He only had
27:02
Speaker 3: seven six hundred and seven yards, but he made it
27:05
Speaker 3: based on his extreme dominance over a shorter period. So yes,
27:09
Speaker 3: Fred Taylor thirteen seasons from ninety eight to twenty ten.
27:15
Speaker 3: He is as a lot of us have talked about
27:19
Speaker 3: in the past, the breeding got brown for football players
27:24
Speaker 3: is Florida. He is who was born in Pahokee, Florida,
27:30
Speaker 3: and he played for the Florida Gators. He is actually
27:33
Speaker 3: in the University of Florida Athletic Hall of Fame. He
27:37
Speaker 3: is also in the Florida Georgia Hall of Fame.
27:41
Speaker 4: He was.
27:43
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight. He was a first round pick,
27:47
Speaker 3: ninth overall. But yes, I mean he has eleven thousand,
27:51
Speaker 3: six hundred ninety five yards. He has sixty six rushing
27:56
Speaker 3: touchdowns and eight receiving touch downs with two three and
28:02
Speaker 3: eighty four receiving yards as well to add to all
28:05
Speaker 3: of it, to his running back stats. And yes, I
28:09
Speaker 3: think it's going to be different now because now you're
28:11
Speaker 3: talking seventeen game seasons. How many games are some of
28:16
Speaker 3: the players playing. Are they staying healthy?
28:18
Speaker 1: Are you not?
28:20
Speaker 3: But I believe he does deserve to be in.
28:25
Speaker 1: Okay, what I'm gonna do is, I know we're looking
28:28
Speaker 1: at ten as the possible cut off time. We may
28:30
Speaker 1: go a little bit longer just to get Mike's opinion
28:32
Speaker 1: on specific topics. Well, Marvin will try to get you
28:35
Speaker 1: because I have a lot of good ones. Okay, I
28:37
Speaker 1: want to make sure we are all clever ground, and
28:40
Speaker 1: I have to introduce everybody to his football league. I
28:43
Speaker 1: feel it's something that was one of my goals going in.
28:45
Speaker 1: So Marvin, hanging there as long as you can.
28:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good till ten o'clock.
28:51
Speaker 2: I know are good till ten. But yeah, that's anyway.
28:54
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's go.
28:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's fine. We'll keep it rolling, all right.
28:58
Speaker 1: Tym Simpson got a six point five million offer to
29:02
Speaker 1: stay in college. Uh out from Miami, trying to see
29:08
Speaker 1: it in Old miss for four million? Oh well, was
29:12
Speaker 1: this the right move for him? To uh declare for
29:16
Speaker 1: the draft? I think he's actually headed to the draft, Marvin.
29:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, he is. You know, when you throw that much
29:24
Speaker 5: money at somebody, you have to think about it. I mean,
29:26
Speaker 5: that's a lot of money, and at the end of
29:28
Speaker 5: the day, you know, there's a lot you could do
29:30
Speaker 5: with that for the rest of your life.
29:32
Speaker 4: But you know, he's.
29:33
Speaker 5: Banking on being successful in the NFL. He's banking on,
29:36
Speaker 5: you know, getting that first contract extension and you know,
29:40
Speaker 5: getting the fifty sixty million dollars a year that these
29:42
Speaker 5: guys are making. It'll be more out of the CBA,
29:46
Speaker 5: you know, I think, uh, I think another year in
29:49
Speaker 5: college is always good for a quarterback. I do believe that, especially,
29:53
Speaker 5: you know, if you have good coaching and there are
29:55
Speaker 5: obvious areas of your game where you know you need
29:57
Speaker 5: to get better. You know, if I was tight Simpson
30:00
Speaker 5: at six and a half million dollars. I would have
30:03
Speaker 5: probably come back and gotten better at my craft and
30:06
Speaker 5: just made it so that I have a better chance
30:08
Speaker 5: to be successful in the NFL. You know, obviously, I
30:11
Speaker 5: think these first round picks are getting you know, if
30:13
Speaker 5: he's a top two or three pick, I mean he's
30:15
Speaker 5: looking at fifty million guaranteed or something like that. I
30:17
Speaker 5: get that as well, But I don't know if he's
30:19
Speaker 5: guaranteed to go into top three, top top three, top four,
30:22
Speaker 5: top five, I don't know. You never really know, all right.
30:25
Speaker 5: You look at Aaron Rodgers and other quarterbacks who just
30:27
Speaker 5: you know, you thought these guys were top ten picks
30:29
Speaker 5: and they slide, so, you know, and then again, you know,
30:32
Speaker 5: you could go to an organization that's just not ready
30:35
Speaker 5: to help develop a young quarterback. And we've seen that
30:37
Speaker 5: time and time again. So if I'm Tye Simpson, I
30:41
Speaker 5: absolutely in considering taking that money and figuring out how
30:45
Speaker 5: this university who's gonna pay me this plans on making
30:48
Speaker 5: me a better quarterback going into the next draft.
30:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it looks like his intentions are to end
30:52
Speaker 1: to the NFL.
30:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he's gone, he's going to I would have
30:57
Speaker 5: I mean really thought about that if I were him
30:58
Speaker 5: in particular, because it was it's not like, you know,
31:00
Speaker 5: it's not like this guy, you know, as a five
31:03
Speaker 5: year starter. I mean the you know, what we've seen
31:06
Speaker 5: or what's been said is, you know, you want guys
31:08
Speaker 5: that have a certain amount of snaps, certain amount of reps,
31:10
Speaker 5: especially at quarterback, you know, who've played a certain amount
31:13
Speaker 5: of seasons. You want them seasoned to a certain degree
31:15
Speaker 5: before they had make that major jump to the NFL.
31:18
Speaker 5: So you know, it's a lot to think about. Man,
31:20
Speaker 5: if the money of these guys are being offered, you know,
31:23
Speaker 5: if he's looking really at long term success, it's something
31:26
Speaker 5: to consider.
31:27
Speaker 1: Okay, great, So Markey, after we get down with this topic,
31:30
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the Continental Football League and
31:33
Speaker 1: then the other will be held out later.
31:38
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Marky, Well, it's a Simpson. I think it's
31:43
Speaker 2: if you're asking me about this, I think in this case,
31:45
Speaker 2: the Simpson it's where's he going to make the most
31:47
Speaker 2: dope And if he feels he's going to be a
31:49
Speaker 2: first round pick and that's gonna be uh well, then yes.
31:53
Speaker 2: Otherwise I think we're seeing a lot of this right now.
31:56
Speaker 2: The Joey Aglear situation in Tennessee where he said, don't
32:00
Speaker 2: count my junior college years. I was still going to
32:02
Speaker 2: have eligibility. He knows he'll make more money at the
32:06
Speaker 2: University of Tennessee through NILS than he will being a
32:11
Speaker 2: likely free agent pickup as a quarterback in the NFL
32:17
Speaker 2: and a tweener and maybe a UFL guy that sort
32:21
Speaker 2: of thing. No, we'll make more money at Tennessee. So
32:24
Speaker 2: that's the question that any player like Simpson asked, ESK
32:27
Speaker 2: you going to make more money in college or in
32:31
Speaker 2: the pros. Ultimately the college eligibility will end. But yeah,
32:37
Speaker 2: obviously he's gambling on his future. And in some ways
32:40
Speaker 2: that's very exciting. I mean, I like to see a
32:42
Speaker 2: player that confident.
32:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. And I just can't fresh off covering
32:47
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. And you know, the nicest part about
32:49
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl is this. It was nice to be
32:51
Speaker 1: able to see NFL instant nil. That's what I where
32:56
Speaker 1: I was at. So that's I'll live over to Mikey
33:00
Speaker 1: and then Kenny, have you already said what you want
33:02
Speaker 1: on this or make it first?
33:05
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mike, I'll be quick. I'm not a fan
33:08
Speaker 4: of the nil and the way it's being handled right now,
33:10
Speaker 4: I think it's ridiculous to give that kind of money
33:12
Speaker 4: to an eighteen, nineteen, twenty year old. I also believe
33:17
Speaker 4: that at a professional level that twenty seven is the
33:21
Speaker 4: sweet spot. We really start to see guys understand how
33:24
Speaker 4: to play the quarterback position, and you know, the NFL
33:28
Speaker 4: will give these kids advice is to where they imagine
33:33
Speaker 4: them to be projected. Now, it's not a science, it's
33:35
Speaker 4: not specific. But if I'm a kid coming out and
33:40
Speaker 4: I got a chance to make six million dollars playing
33:42
Speaker 4: college and continue to grow and develop, rather than going
33:45
Speaker 4: to one of these teams that are just graveyards for
33:49
Speaker 4: these young kids to go and they're not ready to
33:53
Speaker 4: handle the pressure, the type of play, and they're they're
33:58
Speaker 4: expected to be some type of say for a franchise,
34:02
Speaker 4: I'd rather play another year, get some more money, mature myself,
34:07
Speaker 4: get my degree, and then you know, if I get
34:10
Speaker 4: drafted later on in the draft now because there's some
34:14
Speaker 4: other hotshots that they want, I'm okay. I'd rather get
34:17
Speaker 4: drafted early, late in the first round, early in the
34:20
Speaker 4: second round, where I'm going with a team that's right
34:22
Speaker 4: there on the cusp, but they know a quarterback is
34:25
Speaker 4: going to make them better. Then going into a team
34:27
Speaker 4: and they don't have an offensive line, they don't have receivers,
34:30
Speaker 4: they don't have a running game, and you go in
34:32
Speaker 4: there and get yourself pummeled. I think there's a lot
34:35
Speaker 4: of aspects that need to be addressed as a quarterback
34:38
Speaker 4: when you're coming out and when you can come out.
34:41
Speaker 2: O Katie, Oh, go ahead, Katie.
34:45
Speaker 3: One of the things that I would say is if
34:47
Speaker 3: you look at the formula for the Green Bay Packers
34:50
Speaker 3: and what they have, the success that they've had, they've
34:53
Speaker 3: drafted quarterbacks. Let them sit and watch. Yep, but it's
34:57
Speaker 3: it's to a fairly good team as opposed to like
35:00
Speaker 3: I feel bad for like cam Ward, who came out
35:03
Speaker 3: number one, went to one of the worst teams in Tennessee.
35:08
Speaker 3: Coach got fired. Now he's got to learn a whole
35:11
Speaker 3: new system under a new coach. I think, if you
35:15
Speaker 3: have the eligibility and you still have years left, go play,
35:21
Speaker 3: go back to playing college. I mean last year, his
35:25
Speaker 3: completion his career completion percentage is only sixty three point nine.
35:32
Speaker 3: You know, the first year he was at Alabama, his
35:36
Speaker 3: completion percentage was at eighty. Work on your craft, work
35:40
Speaker 3: on being the best tube you can be. There's nothing
35:46
Speaker 3: bad about going back to college, and nothing to shake
35:49
Speaker 3: your head about getting over six million dollars. I mean,
35:52
Speaker 3: I'm not making that money and I went to college
35:54
Speaker 3: how many years ago? So give me a six million
35:57
Speaker 3: dollar check?
36:00
Speaker 1: Market Was there something you want in it?
36:02
Speaker 2: Well? It was Mike and said, you know, all that
36:04
Speaker 2: money going to someone who was eighteen, I'm just asking,
36:08
Speaker 2: you know, if you were Sabrina Carpenter or a child
36:11
Speaker 2: or you know, a teen actor and the next big
36:13
Speaker 2: thing at eighteen, I mean, does not do they not
36:16
Speaker 2: deserve the riches that they would befall them at a
36:19
Speaker 2: later age? I would say absolutely. I understand the you know,
36:24
Speaker 2: concern about maturity and handling one's finances, but if they're
36:28
Speaker 2: producing that revenue, I mean to team, you know, I
36:33
Speaker 2: see no reason why they can't earn that.
36:37
Speaker 5: And that's what That's what the Supreme Court said to Markie.
36:40
Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go.
36:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you want to start the list together of
36:46
Speaker 4: Disney kids they're around and they completely ruined their lives
36:50
Speaker 4: as adult?
36:50
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are, but.
36:55
Speaker 5: You know, and you have kids who did.
36:59
Speaker 4: Was usually designed to pay kids that were that that
37:03
Speaker 4: their jerseys were selling and all this now it's turned
37:06
Speaker 4: over for all. There's no cap on it. Uh. There
37:09
Speaker 4: you can do whatever you want. There's tampering. Uh, this
37:12
Speaker 4: is ridiculous. At least in the NFL, you have a contract.
37:16
Speaker 4: You know, you got to fulfill it. These kids are
37:18
Speaker 4: bouncing around, so now they end up they end up
37:21
Speaker 4: done with their eligibility. They've got no affiliation with any
37:25
Speaker 4: kind of university. There, there's no you know, alumni base
37:29
Speaker 4: that they're loyal to. They don't have their degree. Uh.
37:34
Speaker 4: And and if they don't make it in the NFL,
37:36
Speaker 4: what do you got? What do you got? You know?
37:38
Speaker 4: And I promise you I worked as an agent. As
37:41
Speaker 4: soon as that kid even says that they're going to
37:44
Speaker 4: get drafted, you'll be amazed how many cousins and uncles
37:47
Speaker 4: come out of the woodwork that they're supposed to get
37:50
Speaker 4: some of that money too.
37:51
Speaker 5: So, oh, Mike, a lot of what you're saying is true,
37:57
Speaker 5: but that doesn't mean they still shouldn't get money. There
37:59
Speaker 5: need to be yard rails, you need to be guidelined,
38:01
Speaker 5: You need to me it's very early in that process,
38:05
Speaker 5: and really the bigger issue with the transfer portal and
38:08
Speaker 5: not be not honoring contracts. But there's no reason they
38:11
Speaker 5: should not be getting paid when they're the ones generating
38:13
Speaker 5: the money, as Markey said. But again, we can go
38:15
Speaker 5: all day on this, and I know we got a
38:16
Speaker 5: ten o'clock.
38:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, what we do, and I want to get to
38:19
Speaker 1: the final thing I want to get to. But I
38:21
Speaker 1: appreciate all the input. And our final topic of the
38:25
Speaker 1: night is the Continental Football League, So Mike wants to
38:29
Speaker 1: explain to everybody what it's about. And since we haven't
38:31
Speaker 1: cut off, I'm going to take myself out of the
38:34
Speaker 1: equation in terms of asking questions because you and I
38:36
Speaker 1: have been talking for a while. I'm going to put
38:38
Speaker 1: the onus on Markie and Marvin and perhaps Candy to
38:43
Speaker 1: get him in. Keep in mind, top we have until
38:46
Speaker 1: ten o'clock. It means we've got about eleven minutes to
38:48
Speaker 1: wrap it up. So Mike give everybody a preef explanation
38:53
Speaker 1: and then I'll turn to Marvin first and a marketing second.
38:57
Speaker 4: Back in the sixties, there was the Continental Football League
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Speaker 4: and they were basically farm clubs taxi squads for NFL
39:05
Speaker 4: so as a kid in Connecticut, we used to go
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Speaker 4: see the Waterbury Orbits play and they were they were
39:12
Speaker 4: the farm team of the New York Jets, same uniforms,
39:15
Speaker 4: the whole thing. It was a It was a large
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Speaker 4: league and went all the way across the country. There
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Speaker 4: were three teams in Canada, Montreal, Toronto and Victoria. And
39:25
Speaker 4: we're looking to fill a niche that hasn't been addressed
39:29
Speaker 4: and it kind of ties in to what we're talking
39:32
Speaker 4: about with Nil and everything, the craziness that's going on there.
39:35
Speaker 4: Forty three percent of the kids that go into the
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Speaker 4: transfer portal end up with nothing. They've lost their scholarship,
39:41
Speaker 4: the team that they left has already replaced them, and
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Speaker 4: they got no place to go. Now, what are you
39:48
Speaker 4: going to do? So what we're what we're doing is
39:53
Speaker 4: we're reviving the Continental Football League. Think of this as
39:56
Speaker 4: double a minor league baseball, Okay. And we've got the
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Speaker 4: Ohio Valley Ironman, who which originally was a taxi squad
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Speaker 4: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're based basically out of Wheeling,
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Speaker 4: West Virginia. We have the Cincinnati Dukes. We announced the
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Speaker 4: Michigan Arrows, who were an original team, and today we
40:21
Speaker 4: announced the Indianapolis Capitals and they were the last The
40:25
Speaker 4: Indianapolis Capitals were the last champions of the Continental Football
40:31
Speaker 4: League in nineteen sixty nine. Now, the team that they
40:34
Speaker 4: beat in triple overtime was the San Antonio Toros. Well,
40:37
Speaker 4: we have the San Antonio Toros back. Now. We also
40:40
Speaker 4: have the Texas Syndicate, which is going to be based
40:42
Speaker 4: right outside of Austin. And we have the Tall City
40:46
Speaker 4: Black Gold in Midland, Texas. And if you're familiar with
40:50
Speaker 4: West Texas, it's flat, it's open, and all of a sudden,
40:52
Speaker 4: the city of Midland is just sticking up. That's what
40:55
Speaker 4: they So their nickname is the Tall City and then
40:57
Speaker 4: black Gold obviously for the oil. And we're in negotiations
41:01
Speaker 4: right now to put one more team into into Texas.
41:04
Speaker 4: But we've got about a dozen a little bit under
41:08
Speaker 4: a dozen cities that are ready to come in in
41:12
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven, but for whatever reason, stadium equipment commitments
41:16
Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. Now we're going to play
41:19
Speaker 4: in the summer. Okay, so it's going to be the
41:21
Speaker 4: end of May till the middle of July, and we're
41:24
Speaker 4: there's we're not doing what all these other leagues have
41:27
Speaker 4: tried to do and they get themselves to extend it.
41:30
Speaker 4: You got to keep in mind minor league baseball, so
41:34
Speaker 4: in each division, you play within your division. So it's
41:37
Speaker 4: going to be right now, we got it'll be three
41:39
Speaker 4: games at home, three games on the road. At the
41:42
Speaker 4: end of the season, Number one plays Number two for
41:44
Speaker 4: the divisional championship, and the only travel you got is
41:48
Speaker 4: when the two divisions play each other. Now that we're
41:50
Speaker 4: gonna these kids are going on marketing agreements. They don't
41:53
Speaker 4: have contracts. So now if they want to go back
41:56
Speaker 4: to the NCAA, they've had a marketing agreement which is
41:59
Speaker 4: basically the NIL, so they can go back to this
42:02
Speaker 4: so they can get they can get games under the belt,
42:05
Speaker 4: get more film, either go back to the NCAA, or
42:09
Speaker 4: get an opportunity to go to an NFL or a
42:12
Speaker 4: CFL camp. And we've got teams right now that are
42:15
Speaker 4: signing guys that just got released by the CFL in
42:18
Speaker 4: the NFL. And the other thing is we don't want
42:21
Speaker 4: this to be a mercenary league. We're gonna go to
42:24
Speaker 4: camp with fifty players. Twenty five of those players have
42:28
Speaker 4: to be between the ages of eighteen and twenty seven.
42:31
Speaker 4: Not gonna have a bunch of thirty year olds that
42:33
Speaker 4: are living delusional all right, we want to make sure
42:36
Speaker 4: that this is an opportunity league go to camp with fifty,
42:40
Speaker 4: you're gonna cut ten of them. They'll have an active
42:42
Speaker 4: roster of forty. We're gonna pay these kids four hundred.
42:47
Speaker 4: Positional players will get four hundred dollars a game. Quarterbacks
42:50
Speaker 4: will get seven to fifty. We're gonna get room and
42:53
Speaker 4: board and give them the opportunity to continue to play,
42:58
Speaker 4: get on film and have opportunity to go to play
43:01
Speaker 4: college football again, or get into an NFL DFL camp.
43:05
Speaker 4: We've got other things working where we can get these
43:08
Speaker 4: kids into a trentership after they're gun playing football and
43:13
Speaker 4: so that they can end up having a career that's
43:15
Speaker 4: already built uh when they get done playing. Well, that's
43:19
Speaker 4: the premise of the whole thing is double a minor
43:22
Speaker 4: league baseball tag of approach. Give these kids an opportunity
43:26
Speaker 4: to continue to play rather than getting in the portal
43:28
Speaker 4: and now they got nothing. This isn't a chance to
43:31
Speaker 4: go out there and continue to build their skill sets.
43:34
Speaker 4: But the big thing is, we really want to get
43:37
Speaker 4: into the community and so we're going to be part
43:41
Speaker 4: of the ownership. Is just like the Green Bay Packer model,
43:46
Speaker 4: is that we're actually selling Scott in the team so
43:50
Speaker 4: that the fans can actually own them. Uh you know,
43:54
Speaker 4: a fan engaged, make it a Saturday or Sunday night,
43:59
Speaker 4: a family can come be you know, really inexpensive. We're
44:03
Speaker 4: going to be in stadiums that are all We're not
44:08
Speaker 4: looking like Birmingham in the UFL where they had forty
44:11
Speaker 4: five forty five hundred people and in eight to eighty
44:14
Speaker 4: thousand city. Just makes that make so we want to
44:18
Speaker 4: we want to be in confined spot the community, oriented
44:22
Speaker 4: within the community and and really build something of sustainability.
44:28
Speaker 4: We've given people opportunities to own team and given it's
44:32
Speaker 4: an opportunity to continue to play. So that's where it's
44:34
Speaker 4: all coming from.
44:36
Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll open it up real quick. Mark a
44:38
Speaker 1: question or two.
44:39
Speaker 2: From like, well, I was a sports art up for
44:42
Speaker 2: the Wheeling Intelligencer. I'd remind that the Wheeling Ironmen are
44:46
Speaker 2: still fondly of the CFL. The original one you spoke
44:49
Speaker 2: of are still fondly remembered in Wheeling, West Virginia and such.
44:53
Speaker 4: Uh.
44:54
Speaker 2: The question I guess is that if you say, did
44:57
Speaker 2: I hear you right? Because the microphone went out? If
45:00
Speaker 2: you are going to be paying, say quarterbacks seven hundred
45:04
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars, wouldn't that take away if they're in
45:07
Speaker 2: the transfer portal, their eligibility for returning to college.
45:12
Speaker 4: For a marketing degree.
45:13
Speaker 2: It's I hear that right.
45:14
Speaker 4: That's what I'm marketing is a it's a it's a
45:17
Speaker 4: marketing agreement. It's not a contract. Okay, So it's the
45:22
Speaker 4: same thing as the NIL. They're not under a contract.
45:26
Speaker 4: They are a freelance player that through the marketing of
45:30
Speaker 4: the club, this is how they're getting paid.
45:35
Speaker 5: Okay, Marva, all right, I mean, not not so much
45:39
Speaker 5: a question. I mean, I guess a lot of questions.
45:41
Speaker 5: But I love the idea of just giving guys another opportunity,
45:45
Speaker 5: a continued opportunity to pursue their dream and their goal.
45:49
Speaker 5: You know, the NFL is a stands for not for long.
45:51
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I'm a guy who over
45:53
Speaker 5: three years has won accredited season and my twenty five
45:56
Speaker 5: hours out the NFL. So and I tried all you know,
45:59
Speaker 5: I try NFL Europe and Arena. So I'm a fan
46:02
Speaker 5: of the spring leagues from that perspective, I'm a fan
46:05
Speaker 5: of just the opportunity to continue the dream. You know,
46:08
Speaker 5: for a lot of guys. The NFL it's a traditional route.
46:12
Speaker 5: For a lot of guys, they got to take an
46:14
Speaker 5: alternate route, you know what I mean. And those guys
46:15
Speaker 5: make it. They make it every year. Every team has
46:17
Speaker 5: a guy or too like just like that. So, yeah, Mike,
46:20
Speaker 5: I like what you got going on.
46:21
Speaker 4: Man.
46:21
Speaker 5: I love to learn more about it and go from there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I was in the Canadian Football League.
46:26
Speaker 4: We knocked Doug Flutie out of the game. Who they
46:28
Speaker 4: put in Jeff Garcia. He's a pretty good player, right,
46:32
Speaker 4: And and so there are guys out there. There's a
46:35
Speaker 4: ton of players that all they need is a little
46:38
Speaker 4: bit more grooming and and and that opportunity to play. Now,
46:43
Speaker 4: the thing that's gonna make us unique is we're gonna
46:45
Speaker 4: have the continental ship. Because I worked in personnel in
46:49
Speaker 4: both the Canadian League and the National Football League, and
46:53
Speaker 4: in both leagues, there's a whole bunch of people that
46:55
Speaker 4: don't know how to evaluate guys from the other league.
46:58
Speaker 4: In the NFL, they get too caught up in the
47:00
Speaker 4: in the in the schematics of the CFL game, and
47:03
Speaker 4: they lose sight of the athleticism of the player in
47:07
Speaker 4: the NFL or in the CFL. A lot of those
47:10
Speaker 4: guys just believe because they're in the NFL, you're they're
47:12
Speaker 4: the best players. There's not. Okay, there's guys that that
47:16
Speaker 4: that are all pros in the NFL that would struggle
47:20
Speaker 4: to play in the CFL because it's a different type
47:22
Speaker 4: of game. Their skill sets do all right. And I'll
47:26
Speaker 4: give you an example, so UH losing his name, Marvin
47:31
Speaker 4: Lewis with the linebacker Ray Lewis, with with with UH
47:36
Speaker 4: with Baltimore, he wouldn't have been a middle linebacker in
47:39
Speaker 4: the Canadian Football League. He'd have been a short side
47:41
Speaker 4: of the field edge rusher. Okay, So you got to
47:45
Speaker 4: see how these guys' skill sets fit in with the
47:47
Speaker 4: type of game that they're playing. So we're gonna play
47:51
Speaker 4: NFL rules the first three quarters and the fourth quarter,
47:54
Speaker 4: we're going to have the Continental shift, and we're going
47:57
Speaker 4: to move to modified CFL rules. We're we're gonna go
48:00
Speaker 4: from four downs to three. We're gonna take the forty
48:04
Speaker 4: second clock and bring it down to twenty. They're no
48:07
Speaker 4: fair catch. You're gonna have the five yard rule. We're
48:10
Speaker 4: gonna have the rouge built in there that if you
48:13
Speaker 4: don't return the ball out of the end zone, it's
48:15
Speaker 4: a point for the team to kick it and speed
48:18
Speaker 4: the game up, show you a different way to play.
48:22
Speaker 4: My personal belief is I was I was in the
48:24
Speaker 4: CFL for eight years, I was in the NFL for five.
48:27
Speaker 4: I think the Canadian the game itself is a better game.
48:31
Speaker 4: And and so this gives the the the evaluators an
48:36
Speaker 4: opportunity to see these kids' skill sets playing under both
48:39
Speaker 4: sets or rules. And it's gonna speed up the game.
48:42
Speaker 4: It's gonna make it more exciting for the fans, and
48:45
Speaker 4: you know, really do something that's different.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Kennty, you got about a thirty second station break,
48:52
Speaker 1: Well I.
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Speaker 3: Want to I just want to quick ask one question, Mike, where,
48:56
Speaker 3: besides in person, where can we watch these games?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to be able to live stream them
49:03
Speaker 4: all across the country. We've got a company right now
49:06
Speaker 4: that we're just working out the particulars that the game
49:09
Speaker 4: will come live from the stadium, and then we're looking
49:12
Speaker 4: at different packages. Do you buy a season pass, do
49:15
Speaker 4: you buy single game passes? And you know, and we'll
49:18
Speaker 4: we'll have that announced here probably within the month of March.
49:23
Speaker 1: And when we do get those announcements, Mike, on your
49:25
Speaker 1: shorter segments, you can primarily focus on your updates going
49:30
Speaker 1: forward with the Continental Football League, and if you have
49:32
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49:34
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49:42
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51:03
Speaker 4: Thanks Scott, I appreciate it. Thank you for having me
51:04
Speaker 4: on here tonight, and it's a pleasure to be with
51:06
Speaker 4: all of you.
51:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you get to see all of us and
51:09
Speaker 1: maybe that one then some when you come back next week.
51:12
Speaker 1: So I'm working on building a strong show that we
51:15
Speaker 1: could get it out there, and Mike, I'm just so
51:17
Speaker 1: glad you trusted me enough with all my persistence to
51:20
Speaker 1: get you on Eurepe. Now it shouldn't be a harder
51:22
Speaker 1: sell to get you on the nextlle should.
51:25
Speaker 4: No, that's good. I love persistence. That's that's the key
51:28
Speaker 4: to life as far as I'm concerned.
51:30
Speaker 1: Well, that's all I learned to do is a kid
51:33
Speaker 1: be persistent, and I'm gonna keep I'll keep being persistent
51:37
Speaker 1: until the man outs theirs. So I'm no MotorCity, no
51:40
Speaker 1: mouth meeting. I can't talk anymore. But well that said, Candy,
51:44
Speaker 1: don't a lot that to happen. So Marvin, good job tonight.
51:48
Speaker 1: We put you on too, and I know you can't
51:51
Speaker 1: be in touch with me. While I want to take
51:52
Speaker 1: everybody for joining us on this edition of The Sports Exchange.
51:56
Speaker 1: I behalf of Marvin, Paul the Third, Candy, Markie Bilson,
52:00
Speaker 1: and Mike Kelly. My name is Scott Morgan, Rock the
52:02
Speaker 1: Motor City Band. We'll thank you for joining us. We
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Speaker 1: will see you the next time. Hope you enjoyed the episode. Mike,
52:07
Speaker 1: we'll be texting you the next day or so. We'll
52:09
Speaker 1: see we can work out and be well. I had
52:11
Speaker 1: a lot of great additions tonight and I'm proud of
52:14
Speaker 1: everyone of you man, Between you and Marky, it was
52:18
Speaker 1: great stuff. So all right, that does it. We'll have
52:22
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