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22 Panels Episode #249 - Disney Comics Around the World · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to 22 Panels. Tyler is not here, but Phil and I are. Phil is across the interwebs.
• 0:13
  Tad Eggleston: Wow, those.
• 0:13
  Phil: Pretty good.
• 0:15
  Phil: I'm tied up.
• 0:18
  Tad Eggleston: And yeah, we're, we're… It's been a week.
• 0:23
  Tad Eggleston: So, we're re-recording.
• 0:25
  Tad Eggleston: I guess not as late as we sometimes do, but it feels later, because it's, like, afternoon on Sunday, rather than early morning on Saturday.
• 0:34
  Phil: This will be…
• 0:35
  Tad Eggleston: I went back to school this week.
• 0:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I went back to school this week, and I had a decent week, but man, did it knock the crap out of me. So that's why you get to do all the news this week.
• 0:48
  Phil: Alright, yeah, I actually…
• 0:50
  Tad Eggleston: Episode 249. We're about to hit 250.
• 0:54
  Tad Eggleston: Consecutive weeks next week. Maybe we should plan a party. But maybe not, I don't know. We'll make it up.
• 1:02
  Phil: When it's, 520 consecutive weeks, we'll have our, our.
• 1:06
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 1:08
  Phil: 52 times 10 party.
• 1:10
  Tad Eggleston: Right, right.
• 1:12
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, before we get into some Disney comics around the world, hit me with comics news this week.
• 1:18
  Phil: Yeah, so, there's an update on the, Charity and Sylvia situation from a couple weeks ago, maybe a month ago, where,
• 1:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's been… it's been a little bit. Did you send me that, or did you just tell me about that?
• 1:33
  Phil: to at one point. So,
• 1:36
  Tad Eggleston: I just wanted to make certain that I sent it along to Dan, because Dan is…
• 1:41
  Tad Eggleston: Dan works for a college, so he's, like, on the edge… Dan was the first one that tipped me to all of that.
• 1:47
  Phil: Okay, interesting, interesting.
• 1:50
  Phil: But yeah, it's, it's definitely one of those things where the, the summary seems like a whole lot of people, oh, Tilly an apology, because, you know, the claims of the historian, Rachel Hope Cleaves, saying that, oh, this book was clearly adapted for mine, someone did
• 2:08
  Phil: sat down, the fine folks at the, Witchcraft for Cyborgs blog,
• 2:14
  Phil: sat down and did, read both books, and did a cross-textual analysis, and you know, actually followed and read the entirety of the online bibliography where Tilly cited
• 2:26
  Phil: you know, every single vignette she did where the book is, almost every page is a vignette, in the lives of Charity and Sylvia, and pointed out that actually, no, most of
• 2:37
  Phil: The stories do come from specific letters, and, doing, you know, a breakdown of citations that, at most, maybe a third of the book,
• 2:49
  Phil: is attributed to, you know, with information from Cleaves' book, but it's pointed out that, like, no, she did not start
• 2:55
  Phil: from adapting this history book. She read it first for context, and then spent a year in the archives, reading these letters and doing additional research. Really just pointing out that, you know, it was a thought that I had.
• 3:10
  Phil: From the situation, but don't remember saying on air that, yeah, the only way to really prove the claims one way or another is to sit down, read both books, and compare.
• 3:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 3:20
  Phil: And by the time people.
• 3:21
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and… I, I, I, I remember that, that, like.
• 3:28
  Tad Eggleston: I was definitely in the mood where I didn't have the energy for a hot take either way on it.
• 3:34
  Phil: Okay.
• 3:35
  Tad Eggleston: But I feel like, whether I said it on air to you, or whether it happened in one of my other conversations, one of the things that I remember from reading…
• 3:44
  Tad Eggleston: the academics quotes is like, okay, you've admitted that you didn't read it before it came out, but I'm not certain that you've read it yet. Have you read it?
• 3:55
  Tad Eggleston: Is this based on having read it, or…
• 3:58
  Phil: The other…
• 3:59
  Tad Eggleston: Based on you feeling like she didn't give you enough credit in an interview.
• 4:03
  Phil: Well, someone, someone… so, so…
• 4:06
  Phil: the article, the blog goes into this, but they point out where they even listened to the videos that Tilly made promoting the book for, you know, the HMS, historical
• 4:20
  Phil: I'm blessed.
• 4:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 4:20
  Phil: names there. But, and she said that
• 4:24
  Phil: Cleaves even misunderstood what Tilly was saying. She was misattributing quotes. You know, it was like she heard things that were not being said.
• 4:33
  Tad Eggleston: But again, but again, like, if you look at Cleve's statement, and I said this.
• 4:38
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I know I said this some places at the time.
• 4:42
  Tad Eggleston: She doesn't say she heard Tilly. She said that Tilly gave an interview where she said this, and my phone started blowing up with friends of mine saying, are you gonna stand for this?
• 4:54
  Phil: Right, right, right.
• 4:56
  Phil: It's…
• 4:57
  Tad Eggleston: You need some better friends, and or all of you should have taken a breath and gone.
• 5:04
  Tad Eggleston: Okay… is there something here? Now, I was saying that mostly because, like, the idea that there was money to be made off of…
• 5:15
  Tad Eggleston: Like, essentially what she was suggesting as a remedy, I'm sitting there going, yeah, if you'd laid that out before publication, there is exactly one thing that would have happened. There would have been no publication.
• 5:29
  Phil: Yeah, it, it, yeah, it's… it's the kind of thing where, even investigating the claims, it's… the… the blog does a really great breakdown summation, investigating all the different pieces. Durf Bechterf also had, an extensive thread on Blue Sky, both linking to that blog, and adding comments.
• 5:47
  Tad Eggleston: And, and…
• 5:49
  Phil: In relation.
• 5:49
  Tad Eggleston: What you sent me was a button down.
• 5:52
  Phil: Yes.
• 5:53
  Tad Eggleston: So, there's, there's a nice, a nice…
• 5:55
  Phil: for cyborgs.
• 5:56
  Tad Eggleston: At Button Ground, Witchcraft for Cyborgs, Charity and Sylvia, The Extraordinary Claims of Rachel Hope's Cleaves.
• 6:03
  Phil: Yep.
• 6:04
  Tad Eggleston: Does look like it's a detailed…
• 6:06
  Phil: It really was, so highly recommend reading that if you're interested, and I will, once again, look forward to reading Charity and Sylvia from Tilly Walden.
• 6:16
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I still need to read it. I have it. I just haven't…
• 6:20
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't managed to sit down with him yet, because, you know, Time…
• 6:25
  Phil: Damn.
• 6:27
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I, I, I want, I want time-stopping powers.
• 6:30
  Phil: Wouldn't that be nice?
• 6:33
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 6:33
  Tad Eggleston: Time-stopping powers.
• 6:35
  Phil: In other, bizarre…
• 6:38
  Tad Eggleston: I promise I won't be a sex criminal.
• 6:41
  Tad Eggleston: Not even… not even robbing banks with my time-cropping… top… time-stopping powers. Yeah. But I do want sex-criminal-like time… time-stopping powers.
• 6:52
  Phil: I mean, that's quite…
• 6:54
  Tad Eggleston: Always thought that was kind of brilliant. Oh, yeah. The fact that you could stop time for the rest of the world.
• 7:01
  Tad Eggleston: But not you? Oh my god, I would use that so much.
• 7:05
  Phil: be pretty convenient. Pretty convenient. That was a heck of a ping pong, right there.
• 7:11
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, I had to keep it with comics.
• 7:13
  Phil: There you go.
• 7:15
  Tad Eggleston: Well, tell me who the hell Adam Fortier is, and why.
• 7:17
  Phil: In this case.
• 7:18
  Tad Eggleston: That's great.
• 7:19
  Phil: Yeah, so he is, a guy who, you know, again, in an extensive and lengthy article, I'm only about halfway through this compelling tale over on, the Comics Journal, as reported by Heidi McDonald and Zach Rabaroff,
• 7:35
  Phil: Adam Fortier seems to be, someone who was, you know, a publisher or a co-publisher, vice president, higher-up admin person at various comic publishers over the past 20 years. Boom, amongst others. And,
• 7:51
  Phil: has been dealing with another company, Multiversal Industries, I'm pretty sure it's called, something like that. And in the attempt to recreate Golden Age
• 8:02
  Phil: series.
• 8:04
  Phil: through some proprietary scanning technology, which turns out to be kind of a crock, and just the tip of the iceberg of shady business dealings, where it sounds like this guy, you know, is definitely in court with these companies over these issues, but it sounds like he's been collecting a lot of money and not producing what he's supposed to in regards to what the money was.
• 8:26
  Tad Eggleston: Hey, it's good work if you can get it.
• 8:30
  Phil: If you can keep it going without the courts.
• 8:33
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and…
• 8:34
  Phil: That's where…
• 8:34
  Tad Eggleston: As none of the people screwed out of money have less money than you.
• 8:38
  Phil: Right? Something like that.
• 8:39
  Tad Eggleston: That's where I start getting really upset.
• 8:41
  Phil: Yeah, I mean, it's… It is… it is an interesting… interesting case. You know
• 8:50
  Phil: full of minor twists and turns. It's mostly business dealings at this point, but, it's been… it's been a thrilling read over, over on the Comics Journal. So, so I ask, I ask you, what kind of week has it been?
• 9:02
  Tad Eggleston: What kind of week has it been? Well, I'm gonna stick with the funniest part. And the funniest part is, were you aware that…
• 9:12
  Tad Eggleston: that, that, cards Against Humanity had… Purchased a section of the… the,
• 9:29
  Tad Eggleston: Texas border with Mexico to prevent the wall from being…
• 9:35
  Tad Eggleston: built there. I was not aware of that. This is, like, 10 years ago they did it.
• 9:41
  Tad Eggleston: And then… Elon Musk built his SpaceX city next to it.
• 9:55
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, Defaced their land, maybe left some equipment on it, that sort of thing, and they sued him.
• 10:04
  Tad Eggleston: They… they went to court against Elon Musk.
• 10:09
  Tad Eggleston: And forced an out-of-court settlement.
• 10:12
  Tad Eggleston: Which, which came… which came through earlier this year.
• 10:16
  Tad Eggleston: They had actually crowdsourced the buying of a parcel of Texas land. They had 150,000 people donate $15.
• 10:30
  Phil: Wow.
• 10:31
  Tad Eggleston: But it wound up being right where he bought… er, near where he built his Starbase to, like, fuck with them, because he was upset about it. They win in court.
• 10:44
  Tad Eggleston: But, so, this week, they opened a, a campaign
• 10:50
  Tad Eggleston: The official, Elon Musk is a sad little bitch with No Friends Monument Design Committee.
• 10:58
  Tad Eggleston: So for $10, you can become part of the design committee, and that $10 will go towards building the Elon Musk is a sad little bitch-with-no-friends monument to be placed on this parcel of land in Texas next to this space.
• 11:14
  Phil: Wow.
• 11:15
  Tad Eggleston: Base, base.
• 11:17
  Phil: Absolutely standard.
• 11:18
  Tad Eggleston: A couple of… a couple of things that… that I just have to… I reread, I read them on… on our soon-to-be-posted,
• 11:26
  Tad Eggleston: 22 Panels Presents Neurodivergent theater Goes Mad, but we're gonna put them up front here for people who don't want to deal with the…
• 11:34
  Tad Eggleston: complete neurodivergency of the neurodivergent theater goes mad.
• 11:40
  Tad Eggleston: I feel like those are gonna be acquired tastes, but they're… they're very therapeutic for Andrew and I, so, like, they're gonna be in your feed, and if you don't like them, just skip them.
• 11:53
  Tad Eggleston: But, you know, who knows? Two hours of a couple of,
• 11:57
  Tad Eggleston: quirky geeks talking about a random issue of Mad Magazine might be your jam. It was certainly our jam while recording.
• 12:04
  Tad Eggleston: And I did a little bit of singing.
• 12:06
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway… the two questions that I love, the, the…
• 12:12
  Tad Eggleston: bet most are, how did you settle on the slogan, Elon Musk is a sad little bitch with no friends?
• 12:20
  Tad Eggleston: And Cards Against Humanity responded, Sad little is the buildup. It cuts him down to size. Bitch is the climax, a powerful swear word attacking his character and punctuating his ego with one syllable. With no friends is the denomment.
• 12:38
  Tad Eggleston: mainly descriptive fact made all the more devastating for its truth.
• 12:44
  Phil: Well, there you go.
• 12:45
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, Crooked Medias, Matt Berg.
• 12:49
  Tad Eggleston: asked the follow-up, there must have been other slogans that didn't make the cut. Can you share a few? Cards Against Humanity said.
• 12:58
  Tad Eggleston: We considered the word dumb, but decided it was debatable and therefore weak. He is surely smart in some ways. We briefly considered asshole and man-child, but agreed they were too obvious.
• 13:11
  Tad Eggleston: Miserable lacked the punch of sad. Sociopath and narcissist felt too clinical. Motherfucker felt too broad. We take insults very seriously at Cards Against Humanity.
• 13:26
  Phil: That they do.
• 13:28
  Tad Eggleston: And then,
• 13:38
  Tad Eggleston: There was one other question that I was going to read here, because… oh, yes. This is actually before they got into the slogan. Matt asked them, how did it feel to face Elon Musk in court? Cards Against Humanity.
• 13:50
  Tad Eggleston: responded, it felt terrifying. We were going up against one of the richest and most powerful men in the world, and, at the time we filed the lawsuit, a crony of the most corrupt authoritarian regime in American history.
• 14:03
  Tad Eggleston: The outcome, honestly, surprised us, but it also restored a tiny bit of faith that our system is still mildly functioning.
• 14:14
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, you can, you can, go to Cars Against Humanity to… to kick $10 towards Elon Musk. He's a sad little bitch with no friends.
• 14:25
  Tad Eggleston: And I, frankly, encourage you to do so. I haven't yet, but I probably will.
• 14:33
  Phil: Should have gone down in our, crowdfunding section.
• 14:36
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean… Depending on how long it's going on, we might still be able to.
• 14:45
  Tad Eggleston: they did a great thing earlier this year called Cards Against Humanity Explains the Joke.
• 14:51
  Tad Eggleston: Where to get around tariffs.
• 14:55
  Tad Eggleston: They took all of the cards from the original set and explained the joke at the bottom, which made them informational materials exempt from tariffs.
• 15:07
  Phil: Interesting.
• 15:08
  Tad Eggleston: 30% of the profits going to the American Library Association.
• 15:12
  Phil: Okay.
• 15:17
  Tad Eggleston: That also had a great Q&A. My favorite being, what if DHS secretary and dog murderer Kristi Noem gets mad and decides that Cards Against Humanity explains the joke is not informational material?
• 15:31
  Tad Eggleston: And their response was, she can fuck right off, because we got a binding ruling from Trump's own government that confirms this product is informational and 100% accept from his stupid tariffs.
• 15:43
  Phil: Wow.
• 15:50
  Tad Eggleston: It's fascinating. And here it is!
• 15:51
  Phil: I didn't realize that they had,
• 15:53
  Tad Eggleston: N350472, the tariff classification of Cards Against Humanity, explains the joke from China.
• 16:06
  Tad Eggleston: Like I said, some weeks, you just gotta find the stuff that makes you laugh.
• 16:13
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway…
• 16:15
  Tad Eggleston: Let's, I think this is… no, I guess next week we'll do one more round of stuff from this catalog, but we're nearing the end of our journey through the August catalog.
• 16:28
  Phil: So, fan.
• 16:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, these have additional, or initial orders due on August 27th.
• 16:36
  Tad Eggleston: My first pick this week was Jonah Hex and the Shadow of Death, number 1 for Michael Walsh.
• 16:43
  Tad Eggleston: And I just had one of my earbuds fall out. Can you still hear me?
• 16:48
  Phil: I can still hear you, so…
• 16:50
  Tad Eggleston: If you can still hear me, then I won't worry about the earbud until I'm done reading this one, and you're reading.
• 16:56
  Tad Eggleston: It's from Michael Walsh at DC Comics. Welcome to the end of the Wild West. Welcome to the quiet life of a broken-down bounty hunter whose own story, one of bloodshed, pain, and guilt, ended long ago, or so he thought.
• 17:09
  Tad Eggleston: In a small town called Ashcot, something evil has arrived. Something more dangerous than a gunslinger, more sinister than an outlaw, and older than the town it seeks to infect. Something from a world beyond the only one its victims have ever known. Something darker, unfortunately, than that evil.
• 17:27
  Tad Eggleston: Jonah Hex has taken notice.
• 17:31
  Tad Eggleston: Not just for the otherworldly entities surrounding his home, or the child with mysterious abilities they seek to capture, but also of the chance to finally redeem himself. This is a final order cutoff of September 14th in stores on October 7th.
• 17:47
  Phil: Alright, next up is Minor Threats the Cleaner, number one, from Jerry Dugan, Mark Torres, Pat Oswald, and Jordan Bloom over at Dark Horse. Twilight City is a hard place to live, and an easier place to die, but some bodies never make the headlines. When the capes make a mess too big to bury, they call
• 18:06
  Phil: They call one number, the cleaner. By day, David O. Halloran is a struggling small business owner. By night, he's the spandex world's last call for cleanup.
• 18:16
  Phil: Disposing of the undisposable with precision, secrecy, and a price. But when his path crosses with the deadly and dazzling Diamond Dahlia, everything changes. She has a secret path with the legendary vigilante, the Insomniac, and it's about to erupt onto the blood-slick streets. It's kind of a final order cutoff of October 5th in stores November 11th.
• 18:40
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, Shaquille O'Neal presents Vengeance Unchained, The Legend of Black Caesar, number one.
• 18:48
  Tad Eggleston: From Stephanie Williams and Ray Anthony Haidt at Studio Sky Tiger at Archie Comics.
• 18:56
  Tad Eggleston: An African king of extraordinary physical presence must navigate the brutal transformation from royalty to slavery to piracy, searching for his kidnapped love while discovering that freedom.
• 19:10
  Tad Eggleston: in the Caribbean comes only to those willing to take it by force. In this powerful first issue, Black Caesar rules as king in West Africa. He is a giant of a man, nearly 7 feet tall, with a warrior's athlete's build.
• 19:24
  Tad Eggleston: His exceptional size, charisma, and strategic brilliance have made him legendary among West African kingdoms. They've also…
• 19:35
  Tad Eggleston: made him the target of those who want to enslave him. When Captain Maynard, a slave ship captain, launches an assault during a festival and captures Musa's betrothed Princess Adana in the process, Musa, which is, the original name of Black Caesar.
• 19:51
  Tad Eggleston: I cut that out, not realizing that they had changed over to Musa later on.
• 20:01
  Tad Eggleston: Musa must not just fight for his love, but for the freedom and safety of everyone in his kingdom. Final alert cutoff of September 14th in stores on October 7th.
• 20:13
  Phil: Star Trek 0. No. 1 from Charlie Jane Anders and Isaac Sanchez Gonzalez over at IDW. A starship graveyard on the moon. A captain haunted by failure. A mission that could only change the future of the Federation, or end it entirely.
• 20:29
  Phil: Rafi, Musiker takes command of the USS Endeavor, and is immediately handed a classified directive from Starfleet. Follow the guidance of a powerful, untested AI built from mysterious technology recovered in the Epsilon Corridor that can predict threats before they happen. But these missions aren't exploration, they're a gamble. As systems fail, pressure mounts, and missions spiral out of control.
• 20:52
  Phil: Rafi must decide who to trust, her crew or the machine guiding them.
• 20:56
  Phil: Because some discoveries are better left buried, and some warnings come too late. Finally, we're cut off of September 7th, and stores October 14th.
• 21:05
  Phil: Except some graphic novels, Tad.
• 21:08
  Tad Eggleston: Alrighty.
• 21:10
  Tad Eggleston: First up is Bonjour Trestesse.
• 21:14
  Tad Eggleston: From Frederick Rabbenna and Francoise Sagan at Ablaze Comics in 1954. Cecile is a Parisian
• 21:23
  Tad Eggleston: high school student, spends the summer of her 17th birthday in a villa with her father, Raymond, a widower, and Elsa, his mistress. Cecile and her father have a close relationship, carefree and full of pleasure. The atmosphere changes when Raymond announces the arrival of a friend, Anne.
• 21:42
  Tad Eggleston: Different from Elsa and Cecile, and is a strict and moralizing woman, she appreciates culture, good manners, and intelligence. As soon as she arrives, a subtle conflict begins between the three women.
• 21:53
  Tad Eggleston: Elsa tries to maintain her relationship with Raymond, who is also attracted to Anne. As for Cecile, she fears losing the complicity that binds her to her father, as well as their freedoms. How can she avert the threat?
• 22:06
  Tad Eggleston: In the burning heat of the summer, a cruel game is being prepared with tragic consequences. A remarkable adaptation of the classic bestseller by Francois Sagin that shocked a generation. This is a final order cutoff of September 21st, and in stores on October 28th.
• 22:25
  Tad Eggleston: And I get to go back-to-back here,
• 22:29
  Tad Eggleston: Hotel and Farm from Ben Caccor at Knop Doubleday. Late one night, in the echoic city basement cafeteria, a group of story addicts linger after dinner to share 140 tales that examine the mysteries and idiosyncrasies of hotel culture and agriculture.
• 22:49
  Tad Eggleston: The hotel stories explore the erotic quality of miniature shampoo containers, the pleasure of life between international time zones, the dangers of glossy magazines, and the hotel lobby as a breeding ground for petty crime.
• 23:02
  Tad Eggleston: The agriculture stories detail a little-known practice of twice-killing meat, the cultivation and sale of exotic produce, the whitewashing of trees, and the
• 23:11
  Tad Eggleston: Arrangement of fruit as an art form. Final order cutoff is September 7th in stores on October 6th.
• 23:21
  Phil: Nirvana is here from Mikhail Ross at Faint-Graphics.
• 23:25
  Phil: Two German siblings, 12-year-old Tam and 14-year-old Dennis Nguyen, encounter a young Vietnamese woman in trouble in a flea market parking lot. When Tam's spy, movie-obsessed schoolmate Alex discovers an abandoned backpack with a photo of a happy couple with Tam's address on the back, it will lead the two to discover a severed finger. Worried, Tam searches for the desperate woman aided by her reluctant brother and
• 23:49
  Phil: Eventually finds Hoabin, who escaped from her kidnapper, who's still tracking her down.
• 23:54
  Phil: Drawn to Hoabin, Tam vows to save her, even if she's…
• 23:59
  Phil: Even if she has to break her stern but loving mom's rules, dodge the bad guys in wild chases through Berlin streets, and combine the forces of Marina, the wind's tough chick neighbor, Judah, the elderly retired actress, a rollerblading girl gang, and many others do so. And Rosa's empathetic, loose but controlled lines, cartoonishly expressive kids interact against and
• 24:22
  Phil: within the realistically depicted urban environments, given the texture and grit by screentones. Nirvana Is Here is a contemporary crime thriller that has adventure, disappoint, coming-of-age, and love story elements set in Berlin's working-class Lichtenberg district against a backstrop of very current social issues. You'll have a final word cutoff of September 7th in stores October 21st.
• 24:46
  Phil: first.
• 24:47
  Phil: After that, there is Wandering, from Jonathan Job Nokano over at Oni, cartoonist and animator,
• 24:56
  Phil: that I just named, with a difficult-to-pronounce name, of Scavenger's Reign, a series I absolutely adore, weaves a visionary story following the wandering paths of two men, each shaped by their respective environments, one in the arid wastelands above, and one in the urban sprawl below the surface. Though they never meet, their lives mirror and resonate with each other, creating a haunting sense of synchronicity and misconnection.
• 25:20
  Phil: Set in a world where the surface has become a vast, arid desert dotted with strange geometric creatures and billabongs, Wandering imagines a society that has retreated underground. Beneath the scorching crust, life continues in sprawling subterranean complexes. Theaters, malls, food courts, and highway interchanges, forming a claustrophobic echo of the world above.
• 25:43
  Phil: Themes of alienation, routine, freedom, and the trappings of modern life turn this textless, nonlinear, and atmospheric graphic novel into an unsettling contemplation of the trappings we choose to surround ourselves with. It's gonna have a final order cut off of September 28th in stores October 20th.
• 26:03
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, a couple of collections, Blackjack Deluxe, Volume 1 from Aza Osamu.
• 26:09
  Tad Eggleston: Tezuka Kadansha, a rich medieval drama that mixes mystery, intrigue, suspense, and a dash of humor with a fascinating main character who keeps his caring nature a secret, preferring instead to be perceived as a heartless cad.
• 26:24
  Tad Eggleston: Blackjack, the mysterious surgeon whose mercenary ways hide a benevolent heart. Drawing on his own experience as a student of medicine, the god of manga's late-period masterwork remains his most popular adult series in Japan.
• 26:37
  Tad Eggleston: This volume presents, for the first time in English, a curated selection of chapters that have not been published in color since the original appearance in magazine form, along with a treasure trove of related archival material.
• 26:51
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff of September 7th in stores on November 3rd.
• 26:57
  Phil: Missilebone, the complete collection from T.C. Egglington and Simon Davis over Rebellion.
• 27:03
  Phil: Britain, 2019. The secluded rural village of Harrowvale holds a dark past. Years earlier, on a farm bordering the woods, a cult, led by the charismatic Jasper Hillman, sought to escape civilization and find purity in the old ways, namely worshipping an ancient deity called Thistlebone.
• 27:23
  Phil: The cult's pagan beliefs grew so deranged that they kidnapped a young girl, Avril Eason, with the intention of sacrificing her. But Avril escaped, and now, so many years later, she returns to Harrowvale to face the demons of her past. Haunting and visceral, the complete thistlebone collects volumes 1 through 3 of the claimed Full Core series, again by T.C. Ellington and Simon Davis. It's gonna have a final order to cut off of
• 27:46
  Phil: August 31st, in stores, October 7th.
• 27:52
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, final order cutoffs for Monday, August 24th. You've got a week to get to your comic shop and tell them you want these. American Flag Omnibus from Howard Chaikin at Image Comics, out on January 6th, 2027. Avengers number 1, from Chip Zdarsky and Marco Cecchetto at Marble, out on November 4th. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, number 1, from Kelly Thompson and Stephen Byrne, out from Dino
• 28:16
  Tad Eggleston: on September 16th.
• 28:18
  Tad Eggleston: I feel like that's, like, the third time it's been final letter cutoff.
• 28:22
  Phil: It feels like it, yeah.
• 28:24
  Tad Eggleston: It happens sometimes, this is the nature of our business, and why we keep track of these things.
• 28:30
  Tad Eggleston: Comic Club from Yi Yang, Takumi Graphics slash Fanagraphics, out on October 14th. Dig and Drift from Delphine Panique, translated by Devorah Fishler at New York Review, out on November 17th.
• 28:45
  Tad Eggleston: Exquisite Corps is the Fox Max Killer number one, from Che Grayson and Adam Gorham from Image Comics, out on September 16th.
• 28:54
  Tad Eggleston: Imaginary Fiends! From Tim Seeley and Stephen Molnar from Image Comics, out on September 30th, and if you live in the Chicago area, Tim Seeley will be at Modern Age Comics in the evening on September 30th to sign Imaginary Fiends and any of the
• 29:13
  Tad Eggleston: Many, many other books he has on the stage, or on the shelves today and in the past, so come out and join us.
• 29:21
  Tad Eggleston: I believe we've got them down for 6 to 8 p.m. Check out the… the,
• 29:27
  Tad Eggleston: 22 Panels Instagram page, and it is definitely advertised there.
• 29:35
  Tad Eggleston: Lycan number one, Mike Carey, Thomas Jane, David James Kelly, and Diego Yapur from Ablaze out on September 30th. Afeuso?
• 29:46
  Tad Eggleston: Number one, from Guilla March, out from Image, on September 16th.
• 29:52
  Tad Eggleston: Peep Show, the complete Peep Show from Joe Matt, out from Fanographics on September 30th, and You Are On Native Land, a charity comic for Indigenous rights from various artists.
• 30:04
  Tad Eggleston: out from Mad Cave on September 16th. Phil, you wanna tell us about some crowdfunding? And we actually have some this week.
• 30:11
  Phil: Yeah, I love apocalyptic zombie misfits from Doug Wagner and Daniel Hilliard over at Clover Press on Kickstarter through September 4th.
• 30:21
  Phil: Joe Unknown, number one, from Christopher Irving on Kickstarter through September 6th, Liam Sharp's Conan portfolio and Calendar on Kickstarter through September 10th, Fairytale Wars number 1, Ever Afterverse, a mature sapphic crossover from Cat Kalamia over at Lifeline Comics on Kickstarter through September 10th, and of course, the Tezuka God of Manga documentary from Jason Cohn is still launching soon on
• 30:45
  Phil: Kickstarter, as well as the Death of Comics Book Case, reign of the Comics Book Cases from Zach Quaintance. I will, you know, check to see if there's any updates on when that one is coming that I'll let you know for next week.
• 30:57
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I will certainly change it when it changes.
• 31:01
  Phil: Of course.
• 31:02
  Tad Eggleston: But I need to reach out to Zach as well, so…
• 31:05
  Tad Eggleston: Humble Bundles, we got some cool new ones, but let's start with the ones still running. You got a few more days if you're interested in the Clip Studio Creative Collection Paint, Draw, and Animate. $25 for 10 items, giving you
• 31:20
  Tad Eggleston: The… the industry standard tool for… for making comics.
• 31:26
  Tad Eggleston: DonorsChoose, which is public education charity, is the one that is being benefited, and it has been extended until August 19th. We'll talk a little bit more today about the Disney Masters Collections and Originals from Fanographics. $25 for 48 items to benefit First Book, also through August 19th.
• 31:45
  Tad Eggleston: Dark Horse 40th Anniversary Bundle, $20 for 40 items to benefit the Hero Initiative, has been extended to August 21st.
• 31:56
  Tad Eggleston: One-Shots and fast reads from Image, $25 for 59 items for the Book Industry Charitable Foundation.
• 32:04
  Tad Eggleston: through August 25th. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Return to New York City by IDW.
• 32:12
  Tad Eggleston: $25 for 48 items to benefit Make-A-Wish has been extended to August 27th, and now the new ones, we have the Godzilla Kaiju Rampage, $18 for 30 items.
• 32:27
  Tad Eggleston: To benefit Make-A-Wish through September 4th, First, Humanoids, Mega Bundle, Universes Unbound, Which is…
• 32:40
  Tad Eggleston: $20 for 40 items representing 132 volumes. This is the second volume of the humanoids that we were talking about before, so super-duper exciting.
• 32:56
  Tad Eggleston: And I see us reading some more humanoids soon.
• 33:00
  Tad Eggleston: This is… this is to support… reading is fundamental and goes through… September 2nd.
• 33:11
  Tad Eggleston: Finally, the EC Comics Artist Library from Fanographics, $25 for 40 items. Their artist library of EC Comics is just outstanding. And this is pretty much all of them, for the Freedom to Read Foundation through September 4th.
• 33:28
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah.
• 33:30
  Tad Eggleston: some… some cool stuff, and… and I… I…
• 33:34
  Tad Eggleston: as I look at it, I don't know if we're gonna wind up being…
• 33:40
  Tad Eggleston: the one-shot fast reads from Image next week, and I think it'll have to do with whether or not it gets extended in a lot of ways.
• 33:49
  Tad Eggleston: Or whether we'll jump straight into the next humanoids bundle.
• 33:52
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly because I think that giving a week to the EC Comics
• 33:57
  Tad Eggleston: would also be a good idea. So that'll… that'll be our, our offline chat with, with,
• 34:04
  Tad Eggleston: The three of us, to figure out… Seriously, Eddie.
• 34:08
  Phil: Echo.
• 34:10
  Phil: What's he doing?
• 34:11
  Tad Eggleston: I don't want to sit on your lap, I want to tear things down from the desk next to you.
• 34:20
  Tad Eggleston: He refuses to sit on my lap, he won't…
• 34:22
  Phil: Please.
• 34:23
  Tad Eggleston: way!
• 34:24
  Tad Eggleston: He only wants…
• 34:26
  Phil: Is it, is it also… for Eddie, it's lunchtime for my guys, and they are.
• 34:31
  Tad Eggleston: He really wants to knock things over.
• 34:33
  Phil: Thankfully, my… my fluffy old men are not quite so mischievous. They do not… they do not damage things that are… that are precious to us.
• 34:44
  Phil: they just annoy us to no end. I'll be… I'll get dive-bombed.
• 34:47
  Phil: By cats before, before they knock anything off counters.
• 34:53
  Tad Eggleston: I, I like, I like… now he's being a sweet little baby.
• 34:58
  Phil: Oh, that's what he wanted.
• 35:01
  Tad Eggleston: Well, no, because I tried that already. Yeah. And he jumped out.
• 35:05
  Phil: Dang.
• 35:08
  Phil: Listers, Tad was cradling Eddie like a little baby in his It's adorable.
• 35:12
  Tad Eggleston: That's how he is right now. So, so 3 amazing books this week, Starhenge Book 2, A Kiss for Atticus No. 2 from Liam Sharp.
• 35:21
  Tad Eggleston: It's gonna be hard for Starhench not to be in the top spot for any of its four issues, I'm just saying that right now. I've read all four of them, they're all amazing, as are…
• 35:31
  Tad Eggleston: all of Book 1, and the… the orr novella, I am… I am all in on Starhenge, for that matter. I… I got… I got new Converse lately, er, recently, and… and Kelly draws things on my Converse.
• 35:45
  Tad Eggleston: for me, and I decided that this time I was going simple, and rather than having lots of stuff, one side has the Pearl Jam Stickman tracing down a…
• 35:56
  Tad Eggleston: a fly ball, like, they put up signs during the first Wrigley
• 36:01
  Tad Eggleston: Wrigley Field has signs where it's a cubby bear chasing down a fly ball that say, be alert, fur.
• 36:10
  Tad Eggleston: Foul balls.
• 36:11
  Tad Eggleston: And so, for the first Pearl Jam concert at Wrigley, they did the Stickman, Can I reach Aya?
• 36:19
  Tad Eggleston: They did the stickman tracking down the fly ball.
• 36:22
  Tad Eggleston: So, so one, One of the recent converts that my wife
• 36:29
  Tad Eggleston: made for me, has the stickman cracking down a fly ball. But then the other shoe has the…
• 36:36
  Tad Eggleston: as the Starhenge.
• 36:38
  Phil: Worse very cool.
• 36:40
  Tad Eggleston: That that's how all-in I am. I have it on one of my shoes.
• 36:45
  Tad Eggleston: Liam, if you're listening, Also, people should definitely get Liam's Conan calendar, it's amazing.
• 36:53
  Tad Eggleston: Portfolio, too, if you're that kind of…
• 36:56
  Tad Eggleston: that kind of… that person, but I decided that… that I'd just do the calendar, because…
• 37:01
  Tad Eggleston: the portfolio, as cool as they are, I don't know that I'd, like, frame them all, so it'd just be, like, this…
• 37:08
  Tad Eggleston: portfolio of prints that I… Right. That's in the box somewhere.
• 37:13
  Phil: Oh, yeah, it's like when you buy stuff like that, yeah, you definitely want to show it off.
• 37:18
  Tad Eggleston: Right, so, so yeah.
• 37:22
  Tad Eggleston: YumiX number, or Yumi00X number 1 from Doug Wagner and Hoyt Silva, is starting to answer the question of, like, what happens when you fall in love with a 00 agent?
• 37:34
  Phil: That's also a robot?
• 37:37
  Tad Eggleston: No, I don't think there are any robots.
• 37:39
  Phil: Okay.
• 37:42
  Tad Eggleston: but yeah, it's hilarious, and violent, and action, and it's all things awesome Doug Wagner.
• 37:50
  Tad Eggleston: And then Beast of Borkan, number 2 from Daniel Urazari, and Julio Anta, our wonderful, Ba-buh.
• 38:02
  Tad Eggleston: Puerto Rican… Cryptid… recent Hurricane Fable book that…
• 38:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, second issue's as good as first.
• 38:13
  Tad Eggleston: Big, big honorable mention, though, to Godzilla's Monsterpiece Theater presents Roar of the Worlds from Kyle Baker. That was really good.
• 38:23
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah. Anyway, Phil, you want to take a walk?
• 38:27
  Phil: Yeah, I am excited that there's a new album coming out from Mastodon at the end of this month. You know, also, also know, Tyler would probably be excited for that, it's been a few years.
• 38:39
  Phil: Since their last one, so I'm excitedly looking forward to that. This week, I did manage to go to the comic shop, and seeing that it's not in your list of honorable mentions, I'm realizing that just because I picked something in a week.
• 38:49
  Phil: doesn't mean it came out that week, because I see in your skin number.
• 38:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it was… Yeah, it was…
• 38:55
  Phil: Yeah, it was surely in your top when it came out.
• 38:58
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 38:58
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, but I'm catching up on that one a little bit behind. And then, Die Loaded number 8 is, was fantastic. You know, I am absolutely loving that series, and I love…
• 39:12
  Phil: in the essay at the end, Karen talks about how, loosely the story is kind of expanding in interesting ways, that I'm also very excited to see. And then, I just also wanted to shout out, I finished up Citizen Sleeper 2 earlier this week, and, wished that there was more of it, but, you know, that just means I'll have to…
• 39:33
  Phil: replayed at some point, and you know, which is interesting for as story-heavy of a game as it is. Usually when a game.
• 39:39
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, gangster.
• 39:39
  Phil: heavy. I don't… yeah, yeah, I don't always,
• 39:43
  Phil: I don't always want to replay something if I remember the story super well, but this one is interesting enough to where I'm hoping that different choices will lead to different effects. I see, I see you have read… you have read some One Piece this week.
• 39:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I finished Volume 71.
• 39:59
  Phil: 21 volumes, holy cow.
• 40:01
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. I finished Volume 71. We've got some action going on as, like, the new age of pirates are kind of…
• 40:12
  Tad Eggleston: Making their new alliances, and… Trying to wipe people out, and…
• 40:18
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Fun, fun, fun stuff. I enjoyed it.
• 40:24
  Tad Eggleston: So, how about you?
• 40:25
  Phil: I…
• 40:26
  Tad Eggleston: Hey, manga.
• 40:26
  Phil: Yep.
• 40:27
  Tad Eggleston: In this one-piece race week, 111.
• 40:31
  Phil: Yeah.
• 40:31
  Phil: And I'm reading… I'm reading it, seeing if I can read everything but one piece in the amount of time it takes you to read one piece. Obviously a fool's… a fool's task.
• 40:40
  Tad Eggleston: You haven't even started Astro Boy.
• 40:42
  Phil: I know, I… that's… that's a joke, you know, but, like, just seeing how much… how much other stuff I can read. No, I finished up Volume 1 of, Smoking Behind the Supermarket with You, which was really, really, you know, very cute and funny, and, looking forward to more of that, except…
• 40:58
  Tad Eggleston: Is it just smoking behind the cigarette, or just smoking behind the supermarket?
• 41:04
  Phil: Well, that's what it's called, is smoking behind the supermarket.
• 41:06
  Tad Eggleston: No, but is that all they do? Is it, like…
• 41:09
  Phil: I mean, it's… that's…
• 41:10
  Tad Eggleston: This is, like, the two-shot of the… of the people smoking.
• 41:12
  Phil: Well, it's not… it's not just them sitting there, so they're usually, they're usually, like, you know, the situation of… of someone, like, walking to the place as he's coming off of work, and sometimes interactions inside the supermarket, but, you know, the art is… Gotcha.
• 41:27
  Tad Eggleston: No, just so, so it's, it's, it's, it's not…
• 41:30
  Phil: It's all slice of life, yeah.
• 41:31
  Tad Eggleston: It's not truth in advertising, though.
• 41:33
  Phil: It's not truth in advertising. I mean, there is…
• 41:36
  Tad Eggleston: It says smoking behind this…
• 41:38
  Tad Eggleston: Smoking behind the supermarket with you. It means that not only should there be smoking.
• 41:44
  Phil: There is.
• 41:45
  Tad Eggleston: Do people.
• 41:46
  Phil: Not sure.
• 41:47
  Tad Eggleston: behind the supermarket.
• 41:49
  Phil: They typically do when they smoke, yeah. That's what they do.
• 41:51
  Tad Eggleston: But you said that they were sometimes inside the supermarket.
• 41:54
  Phil: Yeah, that happens.
• 41:55
  Tad Eggleston: Like…
• 41:56
  Phil: This isn't, like, a cheers situation.
• 41:58
  Tad Eggleston: It didn't say su…
• 42:00
  Phil: Even if.
• 42:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yay!
• 42:01
  Tad Eggleston: sometimes smoking behind the supermarket with you. It says, smoking behind the supermarket with you.
• 42:08
  Phil: That's what happened. Tad, your criticisms are unfounded. If you read the series, I'm sure you'll find exactly what you're looking for, which is what I'm describing.
• 42:15
  Tad Eggleston: Is all of the action there? That's all I have to ask. Yeah. That was my question. And you said, no, not all of the action is there.
• 42:22
  Phil: Because, I mean, again, it's… it's not like it, you know, even Cheers had a couple episodes outside the bar, you know.
• 42:29
  Tad Eggleston: And they were weird, but… Cheers was called Cheers, it wasn't called People Talking in a Bar.
• 42:36
  Phil: But, like, but, like, the, the supermarket, everything happens in and around the supermarket.
• 42:41
  Tad Eggleston: called Smoking With My Pal.
• 42:47
  Tad Eggleston: And people just thought of it as the manga where people stood behind the supermarket and smoked.
• 42:53
  Phil: Huh.
• 42:53
  Tad Eggleston: then it would be… it would still be truth without an advertising.
• 42:56
  Phil: But, like, but, like, for the premise of the plot, you need the setup of what happens inside the supermarket, as well as what happens behind the supermarket, you know, so…
• 43:05
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, are they talking up, like, is it set up in such a way where, like, everything that happens inside the supermarket is, like, a flashback that's coming from their conversation? Because that could make it work. They could be allowed to do it if it was really conversation about that thing that happened in the supermarket.
• 43:23
  Phil: I mean, it's all… it's all within the situation, but no, it's not completely told as, like, a storytelling. It's not quite like that. I'm just saying, I don't think it's nearly as false of advertising as you're coming at it with.
• 43:37
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 43:38
  Phil: But it's pretty tightly supermarket-based.
• 43:44
  Phil: And, and heavily smoking.
• 43:47
  Tad Eggleston: That's fair.
• 43:51
  Phil: And with that… Disney comics, European Disney comics at that.
• 43:59
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, what'd you think of your zombie coffee?
• 44:02
  Phil: Yeah, it… well, so first of all.
• 44:04
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you, you chose, you chose probably the coolest title, so I want you… It did, yeah.
• 44:08
  Phil: It's, it's, you know, it, it was one where I was immediately struck by, the art for it, where, you know.
• 44:18
  Phil: when compared to last week's, Diamond Jubilee of… of ducks and whatnot,
• 44:27
  Phil: this was very much the, you know, crunchy underground cartoonist, but also still lush and lavish European sensibilities that I have not seen.
• 44:38
  Phil: associated with Disney very much before, and you know, my immediate, immediate reaction was, wow, I'd love to read
• 44:47
  Phil: one of these guys… one of this guy's original books, you know?
• 44:51
  Phil: His name is… Regis, lucille, I think? But yeah,
• 45:01
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and here's the question, I'm gonna look it up. Keep talking. Regis Lucille, you said?
• 45:07
  Phil: Huh.
• 45:08
  Tad Eggleston: I'll spell it?
• 45:08
  Phil: Oh, interesting.
• 45:09
  Tad Eggleston: really quick?
• 45:10
  Phil: L… O… Ehh… let me see.
• 45:15
  Phil: L-O-I-S-E-L.
• 45:19
  Tad Eggleston: L-O-I…
• 45:21
  Phil: SEO, yep. SEO? Yeah, because.
• 45:23
  Tad Eggleston: the noise cell.
• 45:25
  Phil: Luiso, yeah. I wasn't… it was… it was hard to read as… as a… as a signature, I had to break it down there. But…
• 45:33
  Phil: it's…
• 45:34
  Phil: So, I mean, it's… the… the setting is at least a little bit familiar, for… for older Disney cartoons, where it's like, you know.
• 45:43
  Phil: Kind of, just… just… These cartoon animals just kind of.
• 45:50
  Tad Eggleston: No, he… he…
• 45:51
  Phil: a ramshackle, too.
• 45:52
  Tad Eggleston: he, I think, is the writer.
• 45:55
  Phil: I mean, it's said written and illustrated, or… let me.
• 45:58
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 45:59
  Phil: Yeah. Story, art, and.
• 46:03
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, no, no, he… no, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's telling me a writer for his other book.
• 46:08
  Phil: Oh, my secret.
• 46:10
  Tad Eggleston: looking up what… he has a book that translates to The Quest for the Time Bird, which is a fantasy comic, and apparently.
• 46:19
  Phil: That's my history.
• 46:19
  Tad Eggleston: his most… his most… famous.
• 46:23
  Phil: I'd rate that.
• 46:23
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 46:25
  Phil: care.
• 46:25
  Tad Eggleston: I can't… I can't tell if it's been… Published in English, though.
• 46:30
  Phil: Right? But yeah, it… this one was, you know, So it felt… it felt…
• 46:37
  Phil: of the era for classic Disney cartoons, you know, kind of like, hey, they're all living in, like, kind of a rundown town together.
• 46:46
  Phil: But at the same time, it felt very…
• 46:51
  Phil: like, in contrast to what I think of when I think of…
• 46:54
  Phil: Disney comic. Or, like, not Disney comics, but, like, Disney as an entity and the characters, is that they feel very, like, shiny and plastic, and this was much more, rough-and-tumble,
• 47:08
  Phil: Kind of dirty, a little bit grimy, and, like…
• 47:13
  Phil: I guess I was just… I was just really struck by…
• 47:17
  Phil: I mean, first of all, this was probably the most personality I've seen Mickey Mouse have since Kingdom Hearts.
• 47:23
  Phil: You know?
• 47:24
  Tad Eggleston: Right?
• 47:24
  Phil: And I don't know, it's just one of those things where…
• 47:30
  Phil: if this was a story… I don't know, it's just…
• 47:35
  Phil: the Disney of it all feels like it's getting in the way of that. Like, portraying Mickey Mouse as this, like, run-down everyman who is defending his town from an evil corporation that's trying to buy up their land to make a golf course, you know, which is a very compelling story.
• 47:53
  Phil: But having Mickey as the, you know, the savior, it's like, that feels in complete contrast to Disney as I think of it as an entity now, you know?
• 48:05
  Tad Eggleston: And I, I think that… like, what this…
• 48:13
  Tad Eggleston: What this tells us is that,
• 48:16
  Tad Eggleston: Looks like Quest for the Time Bird may be available through Titan Comics right now?
• 48:21
  Phil: Oh, wow, alright.
• 48:23
  Tad Eggleston: But… but what that… what that…
• 48:28
  Tad Eggleston: Tells me, though, is that it…
• 48:31
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, just based on what you said there, is… is that…
• 48:38
  Tad Eggleston: trying to get my thoughts unraveled again. I had 3 different threads going into my head, and only one of them matters right now.
• 48:47
  Tad Eggleston: That feels like more of an American response. Yeah. Like, and probably why so much great Disney
• 48:57
  Tad Eggleston: Comics come from overseas, why they've continued overseas.
• 49:02
  Tad Eggleston: Because, like, How much experience do you actually have with Mickey Mouse?
• 49:10
  Tad Eggleston: Or are you just thinking…
• 49:12
  Tad Eggleston: Disney in a grand sense, and… and, like, the silent mouse that you can see at the park, or…
• 49:20
  Phil: I mean, I'm thinking of… I'm thinking of the cartoons from, the 50s, you know, the cartoons… like, I'm thinking of, you know, when I think of…
• 49:30
  Phil: Mickey, you know, or of those Disney cartoons, I kind of do think of them through history, and that's one of the things that's odd to me, is how, sure, he started out, you know, like, Steamboat Willie, and then into, you know, one of my favorite ones when I was a kid was they were, like, building this ship.
• 49:46
  Phil: And then set the ship out to sail, and then it falls apart.
• 49:50
  Phil: immediately out of the dock. And so this had that kind of energy and feel, both time, era, technology, and I appreciate that about it, but…
• 50:01
  Phil: when you compare that to, you know, like you said, the silent mouse who's a mascot, you know, Mickey as a mascot, and, like, a dude in his suit.
• 50:09
  Phil: that is running around Disneyland, that is a very different Mickey Mouse. You know, and I also think of, like, Fantasia, and again, Kingdom Hearts, like, it's…
• 50:19
  Tad Eggleston: But there's really only one… one Mickey…
• 50:25
  Phil: Well, I disagree with that. I think that there's…
• 50:28
  Tad Eggleston: Well, well, I mean.
• 50:28
  Phil: There's a multitude of Mickeys. Sure.
• 50:31
  Tad Eggleston: Asia, there's… yeah.
• 50:32
  Phil: There's only one man.
• 50:33
  Tad Eggleston: That's all I…
• 50:34
  Phil: Oh, okay.
• 50:36
  Tad Eggleston: There's only the one Mickey in… well, Which is…
• 50:39
  Phil: you know.
• 50:40
  Tad Eggleston: And I think… I think that that… That is part of… Part of what…
• 50:54
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wow. When a digital copy is 40 bucks, you know that it hasn't been in price… in print for a while.
• 51:01
  Phil: Yeah, holy cow.
• 51:02
  Tad Eggleston: Quest for the… Kindle copy of Quest for the Time Bird is $40, but it is available.
• 51:07
  Phil: That is steep.
• 51:09
  Tad Eggleston: Well, it is… it is 234 pages, so, like, when you put it that way, it's not as bad.
• 51:16
  Phil: For a physical book, that is a… that is a pretty good price.
• 51:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but…
• 51:21
  Phil: PDF?
• 51:23
  Tad Eggleston: I… I kind of reject the idea that
• 51:30
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and you can buy a hard copy, used or collectible, from $158.78.
• 51:37
  Phil: Wow.
• 51:39
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 51:39
  Phil: See, so… and that's when it's clearly… it's in the secondary market at this point, yikes.
• 51:44
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 51:45
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, but also, like, I mean, just quickly, I, I, I think that… that…
• 51:58
  Tad Eggleston: Digital copies, there's reason to have them be a little bit cheaper, because you're not paying for printing and whatnot. But as soon as you make them cheap, cheap, that becomes an excuse not to pay the artists.
• 52:10
  Phil: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. You know, I guess it's also tough for me because I think of PDFs of books as, like, a companion to it, you know, and the.
• 52:23
  Tad Eggleston: I understand.
• 52:23
  Phil: primary… the primary object that… that I want.
• 52:26
  Tad Eggleston: I understand, and that's ideal, but, like, when you get into whether or not you've got space on your shelves, and, like, shouldn't…
• 52:36
  Tad Eggleston: again, I think… I think there should be way more sales, I mean, and I… I do, I buy a lot.
• 52:41
  Phil: I'm mind you.
• 52:41
  Tad Eggleston: digital comics on sale rather than at full price. That's why we talk about Humble Bundles all the time.
• 52:50
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, to just always have it at regular… or to always have it be dirt cheap means that…
• 52:58
  Tad Eggleston: Way more copies have to be sold before…
• 53:02
  Tad Eggleston: The artist gets…
• 53:05
  Phil: Yeah, well, I mean, and part of that… part of that is probably still also based on the printing costs that are.
• 53:12
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 53:12
  Phil: associated with it, so… Right. It's tough. It is tough, and it's also tough for me
• 53:19
  Phil: you know, knowing that, anyway, yeah, no, it's a separate issue entirely, so… But yeah, it's just… it's just, you know…
• 53:28
  Phil: That's a… that's a…
• 53:29
  Tad Eggleston: loose.
• 53:29
  Phil: if time bird, alright.
• 53:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, so, so you, you, you looked at one of the more modern ones. I looked at Mickey Mouse.
• 53:41
  Tad Eggleston: I think the Ice Sword Saga was… was roughly contemporary, too.
• 53:46
  Tad Eggleston: Let me see if I can get a date.
• 53:49
  Phil: But yeah, I did look up… this one was translated in English around 2022, but originally, produced in 2016.
• 53:58
  Tad Eggleston: Right, so, so, so, so, so newish stuff.
• 54:02
  Phil: Yeah.
• 54:03
  Tad Eggleston: on, on every, every level.
• 54:09
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas the Sword of Ice from Massima de Vida…
• 54:17
  Tad Eggleston: Of course, it's not giving me the… the… Date anywhere…
• 54:30
  Tad Eggleston: That's when… That's when Phanographics put it out.
• 54:35
  Tad Eggleston: I wanna know what Fanographics put it out.
• 54:39
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah.
• 54:39
  Phil: I guess it's, you know, I kind of, like, go back and forth on whether it's, you know, cool and interesting to see, you know, these characters taken and portrayed in a way that we don't usually see, or if it's, like.
• 54:55
  Phil: like, one of the things I was thinking about… was… you remember Giggs?
• 55:00
  Phil: And, like, punk rock.
• 55:03
  Phil: And the point it makes with talking about the history of punk rock and having Sadie being an old punk person who ultimately, you know, was part of a tech company.
• 55:13
  Phil: is, like, how I think of punk rock in general today as a genre. When it started, it was, you know, a counterculture railing against normativity and consumerism, and now, it's, like.
• 55:27
  Phil: a different…
• 55:29
  Phil: flavor of product, you know? Like, it's… it's a style that you can apply over something to make it a punk version, or, like.
• 55:39
  Phil: pop punk kind of subsumed that and turned the general sound into something that's still acceptable by the mainstream. So it's like…
• 55:49
  Phil: you know, are these European Disney comics a subversion of our expectations, or are they merely,
• 55:59
  Phil: you know, an absorbing expansion of, oh, of course, there can be any and every flavor of Mickey Mouse, as long as you buy it and read it and, you know…
• 56:09
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and I get that, I guess… I guess where I go is, like…
• 56:22
  Tad Eggleston: the… kind of like Marvel and DC, like, it provides an outlet
• 56:31
  Tad Eggleston: For people to get paid as they hone their craft.
• 56:35
  Tad Eggleston: take their names. And… perhaps even more than Marvel and DC, like, it seems that Disney gives them
• 56:44
  Tad Eggleston: Like, as long as they are… All ages, or at least not…
• 56:52
  Phil: Yeah, it was…
• 56:53
  Tad Eggleston: for kids.
• 56:54
  Phil: Right, it was right, right up against that, pretty much. Not quite…
• 56:58
  Phil: Well, I… I guess when I say right away.
• 57:00
  Tad Eggleston: W-which, which, which is, which is not…
• 57:04
  Tad Eggleston: Not a bad thing, because, like, as… as… as a creator, being able to… like…
• 57:16
  Tad Eggleston: Matt Madden talks about constraints a lot, you know, I love talking to Matt Madden, because he talks about putting constraints on himself to force him
• 57:25
  Tad Eggleston: to… really,
• 57:32
  Tad Eggleston: to really think about how he tells a story. And the need to make something kid-friendly
• 57:38
  Tad Eggleston: And more so, even, the need to try to make something all ages, you know, where it's both kid-friendly, but also,
• 57:49
  Tad Eggleston: not… uninteresting to an adult is… is a… is a very real constraint. So…
• 58:00
  Tad Eggleston: To, to need to… to tell your stories, using… not just…
• 58:13
  Tad Eggleston: Existing characters, but… but, you know, having… having some specific story constraints, but not actually…
• 58:24
  Tad Eggleston: Not actually a ton of them?
• 58:26
  Tad Eggleston: If that makes sense, because, as you said, Mickey doesn't have a real character, so you can kind of mold him into…
• 58:35
  Tad Eggleston: Because with a lot of these, they're not strictly
• 58:44
  Tad Eggleston: locked in… okay, it looks like my Secret of the Ice Sword came out in 82, which is later than I would have expected.
• 58:54
  Tad Eggleston: Though not terribly so, because, as I was about to say, it actually has some ElfQuest feel to it, and kind of a,
• 59:02
  Tad Eggleston: a stripped-down Prince Valiant feel to it.
• 59:07
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, like, I read Ice Sword, I read some more of, like, one of the books that was available was A Century of Disney Comics, and I read some more of that, like, going through and seeing how they have evolved through time.
• 59:22
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, really, to me, one of the things that's amazing is that, like.
• 59:30
  Tad Eggleston: Disney Comics as a publisher still exists, particularly because Disney Comics as a publisher like…
• 59:42
  Tad Eggleston: is a global thing. Like, there's Disney comics printed in, you know, originals in Italy, originals, and has been since the 50s, right?
• 59:53
  Tad Eggleston: For… for that matter, like, one of the comments in the… in the…
• 59:57
  Tad Eggleston: in the 100 years at Disney was that, like, one of the things that also was different about the Barks ones is, like, he was essentially the only person that was getting
• 1:00:08
  Tad Eggleston: Regularly picked up in most nations.
• 1:00:11
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:00:13
  Tad Eggleston: You know? So, in some ways, it's like… it's almost like…
• 1:00:21
  Tad Eggleston: Heavy metal, or… or some other anthology
• 1:00:25
  Tad Eggleston: Magazine, because, like, most of the stories are shorter, and or…
• 1:00:31
  Tad Eggleston: Were released in shorter segments, right?
• 1:00:37
  Tad Eggleston: Where, like, the only rule is, okay, you have to center a couple of Disney characters, but they'll clearly let you create some of your own.
• 1:00:47
  Tad Eggleston: barks.
• 1:00:48
  Phil: Together's a weird…
• 1:00:49
  Tad Eggleston: What?
• 1:00:49
  Phil: Yeah, there's a weird horse, horse-faced guy in this one that was hanging out with Mickey.
• 1:00:54
  Tad Eggleston: Hey.
• 1:00:54
  Phil: I've never seen.
• 1:00:55
  Tad Eggleston: Right. So, like… And again, like, from what I understand anyway, like.
• 1:01:05
  Tad Eggleston: sales… I mean, sales of Disney comics in the United States during the beginning of the Comics Code were huge, because they were the only things that sold well.
• 1:01:15
  Tad Eggleston: other than, really, EC, Right before the Comics Code.
• 1:01:21
  Tad Eggleston: And since Comics Code killed all of EC except for Mad Magazine,
• 1:01:28
  Tad Eggleston: You know, that, that, that opened this wide open window for… For… for barks and… and…
• 1:01:36
  Tad Eggleston: similarly good. And I'm certain that there's been plenty of bad Disney comics through the years, just like…
• 1:01:42
  Tad Eggleston: Most anthologies have… have hit and… hit and miss.
• 1:01:46
  Tad Eggleston: I get the… I get the, like, corporatization side,
• 1:01:53
  Tad Eggleston: I guess, though, like, for me, if you're actually managing to put out a good product, like…
• 1:02:00
  Tad Eggleston: when I actually wind up reading Disney comics, I don't feel like I'm reading I don't feel like, like…
• 1:02:11
  Tad Eggleston: Think of some of the bad Disney theatrical movies, or worse still, the straight-to-video sequels.
• 1:02:20
  Tad Eggleston: Like, if…
• 1:02:21
  Phil: best one of those was, Aladdin and the,
• 1:02:27
  Phil: The Prince of Thieves? That was direct-to-video, that one was still good. Robin Williams was in that.
• 1:02:32
  Tad Eggleston: Okay. I'm not saying that there were no decent…
• 1:02:37
  Tad Eggleston: But you know what I mean.
• 1:02:38
  Phil: I do know what you mean. I've still never seen Tarzan 2.
• 1:02:42
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it would be so easy for their… and… and, like, because we're reading curated selections, I don't know.
• 1:02:50
  Phil: Oh.
• 1:02:50
  Tad Eggleston: much of Disney comics don't fit into this, but it would be so easy
• 1:02:55
  Tad Eggleston: With a brand of that level.
• 1:02:59
  Tad Eggleston: To only put out Low-level stuff.
• 1:03:03
  Tad Eggleston: It would be so easy to say, no, I don't want… like, one of the ones that I… like, if I'd had a little bit more time, that one of the volumes that we could have looked at was… had two stories in it. It had… it had Mickey in… in…
• 1:03:20
  Tad Eggleston: War and Peace, and Mickey and Les Miserables.
• 1:03:26
  Phil: Wow, yeah.
• 1:03:28
  Tad Eggleston: You know? So, like…
• 1:03:32
  Tad Eggleston: And from what I've heard, anyway, like, when Disney does classic literature in their comics, they don't tend to…
• 1:03:47
  Tad Eggleston: Sugarcoat it the way they sometimes do in the movies.
• 1:03:50
  Tad Eggleston: Okay. You know, we're not having Hunchback of Notre Dame's here.
• 1:03:54
  Phil: Right, right.
• 1:03:55
  Tad Eggleston: Is what I've heard.
• 1:03:56
  Tad Eggleston: Okay. Like, I need to actually sit down and read one.
• 1:03:59
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, anything that, like, might get a 5-year-old into classic literature, so that, like, 20 years later, when they run across Don Quixote, rather than going, oh my god, that looks huge and boring, they go, oh, wait a minute, is this what that comic that I loved when I was a kid?
• 1:04:19
  Tad Eggleston: It's based on…
• 1:04:21
  Phil: I think that's an optimistic look of it, when I think the more common reality is that people just get hooked on the Disneyification of classic literature, and just want more of the.
• 1:04:31
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but this is… this is also where I sit back and go, the people who got hooked on the disenification?
• 1:04:41
  Tad Eggleston: Probably didn't have another hook to the classic literature either.
• 1:04:45
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. I'm not talking about, like, large numbers. I'll take one.
• 1:04:49
  Phil: Okay, sure.
• 1:04:51
  Tad Eggleston: Y-y-you know what I mean?
• 1:04:53
  Phil: Yeah. And I guess, I guess from…
• 1:04:55
  Tad Eggleston: Because again, like… there… there isn't a huge upside to Disney to doing it, except that…
• 1:05:03
  Tad Eggleston: Overall, comics are a small portion of what they pay for.
• 1:05:08
  Tad Eggleston: And… Far enough back, they built a reputation for themselves in multiple countries for making good comics.
• 1:05:21
  Phil: Yep, yep.
• 1:05:22
  Tad Eggleston: That there's reason for them to continue doing so.
• 1:05:25
  Phil: Yeah, I guess it's… is that for me, I come back to, like.
• 1:05:29
  Phil: I would use this collection as a signpost to find more timebird…
• 1:05:35
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, we did.
• 1:05:37
  Tad Eggleston: and discovered that there's… there's a book called Bird. The Quest for the Time Bird, that, like, at some point, we'll have to check out from a library.
• 1:05:46
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:05:47
  Tad Eggleston: $30 on, or…
• 1:05:48
  Phil: You know?
• 1:05:49
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe Titan will do a humble bundle of their old.
• 1:05:51
  Phil: I… I'll have it, I'll see if I can…
• 1:05:56
  Phil: reach out to Interlibrary Alone once… once I've gotten.
• 1:05:59
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:05:59
  Phil: of a pun-pun, you know?
• 1:06:01
  Tad Eggleston: You know, yeah.
• 1:06:04
  Tad Eggleston: Like, like, that's fair too, but, like, Barks never did a lot of other work. He did almost all of his work in Disney because he enjoyed it, and he got to tell really good stories, and he got paid decent.
• 1:06:18
  Tad Eggleston: You know… Late in his life, he made a series of
• 1:06:24
  Tad Eggleston: Disney, like, right after it became… known.
• 1:06:29
  Tad Eggleston: who Carl Barks was, made a series of, like, actual painting…
• 1:06:34
  Tad Eggleston: Duck paintings to, to, like, essentially raise his retirement money, but, like…
• 1:06:41
  Tad Eggleston: He was able to do that.
• 1:06:42
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 1:06:47
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's hard to shill for one of the biggest corporations in the world, I get that. I don't love that either.
• 1:06:53
  Tad Eggleston: But… But I do love solid kids stuff.
• 1:06:59
  Tad Eggleston: And I do know how… Much for good or bad.
• 1:07:05
  Tad Eggleston: Even when you're trying not to have them be like that.
• 1:07:10
  Tad Eggleston: It is often easier to sell a kid on
• 1:07:14
  Tad Eggleston: Something new that involves something that they're already.
• 1:07:19
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:07:20
  Tad Eggleston: tied to…
• 1:07:22
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:07:24
  Tad Eggleston: Than it, like, than it is to, to, to, like, lots of kids would, like, it, it…
• 1:07:31
  Phil: That's a good… that's a good point. I think it's a good point that, you know.
• 1:07:34
  Tad Eggleston: And you read them like a great book.
• 1:07:36
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:07:37
  Tad Eggleston: and then want to read them another great book, but with nothing that ties it together, they would rather read that great book over again. And I'm all for rereading, but, like.
• 1:07:47
  Tad Eggleston: But again, when you can say, oh, you like Scrooge, let's do…
• 1:07:52
  Tad Eggleston: this story with Scrooge. Let's do this other type of story with Scrooge. You like Mickey Mouse. Here's Mickey Mouse in classic literature. You know, it gives you so much more flexibility in terms of introducing things to have…
• 1:08:07
  Tad Eggleston: and anchor.
• 1:08:09
  Phil: One of those, everybody starts somewhere, and the.
• 1:08:13
  Tad Eggleston: And, and…
• 1:08:13
  Phil: odds of someone reading something more interesting, thought-provoking, after these Disney books is higher than certainly my.
• 1:08:21
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:08:21
  Phil: books out there.
• 1:08:22
  Tad Eggleston: And whether that was,
• 1:08:28
  Tad Eggleston: whether that was, like, part of the Disney nefarious plan to begin with, or whether it's a happy accident.
• 1:08:36
  Tad Eggleston: doesn't really matter, it makes…
• 1:08:38
  Tad Eggleston: Disney, to a certain extent in general, and certainly Disney comics, like, valuable learning tools.
• 1:08:46
  Tad Eggleston: in both a social-emotional way, because, like, that's one of the things that I've definitely noticed.
• 1:08:52
  Tad Eggleston: is, at least the ones that I have experienced, have a greater emotional depth
• 1:09:00
  Tad Eggleston: than I expect in kids' comics.
• 1:09:02
  Tad Eggleston: They, they, they, they ask more…
• 1:09:07
  Tad Eggleston: hard questions than I expect in kids' comics.
• 1:09:11
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:09:12
  Tad Eggleston: You know, whether it's the capitalism questions, or…
• 1:09:17
  Tad Eggleston: Whatever. Y-you know what I mean?
• 1:09:19
  Phil: Oh, yeah. Those were definitely more present in this than most kids' media in America, that's for sure.
• 1:09:26
  Tad Eggleston: Right. So, like… I mean… if I… if I am…
• 1:09:36
  Tad Eggleston: picking between two things to get people into, I'm more likely to push Tintin than…
• 1:09:43
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  Tad Eggleston: Duck Box.
• 1:09:46
  Tad Eggleston: Even as much as I love duck books, just like I'm more likely to push duck books than I am anything else at Disney, because I really, really feel like the duck books completely transcend
• 1:09:59
  Tad Eggleston: Like, it's kind of a shame that Karl Barks doesn't have an equally big… collection of…
• 1:10:07
  Tad Eggleston: stories that… that… that were all just his. But he doesn't.
• 1:10:14
  Tad Eggleston: He doesn't. That's not a, like… It's, you know…
• 1:10:25
  Tad Eggleston: When you don't, you don't, right?
• 1:10:28
  Phil: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:10:31
  Tad Eggleston: So, so,
• 1:10:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but that's… that's been my take here, is… is I definitely need to expand my… my Disney comic reading beyond
• 1:10:45
  Tad Eggleston: duck books. It still will probably only make up Mmm.
• 1:10:53
  Tad Eggleston: 5-10% of my overall comic reading.
• 1:10:59
  Tad Eggleston: But I'm glad that we explored it. I'm glad that I picked up the Humble Bundle. I have that much more.
• 1:11:06
  Tad Eggleston: to… To explore with my… my grandkids.
• 1:11:12
  Tad Eggleston: And, and those are, those are, wonderful things from my perspective.
• 1:11:17
  Phil: That's for sure.
• 1:11:18
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:11:20
  Tad Eggleston: And again, just, I mean, easier to… to…
• 1:11:25
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I need to go read more of the Sonic comics, because I've heard great things about the Sonic comics. I know. My little… I mean, but I also have to wonder how much of that is actually following off of the Disney model. Hey, yes, we have…
• 1:11:39
  Tad Eggleston: We have this property, and that will sell X number of them, but if we really want to make it valuable, we need to not just have this property, we need to…
• 1:11:49
  Tad Eggleston: Do something with this property.
• 1:11:52
  Phil: Entirely possible.
• 1:11:56
  Tad Eggleston: And, you know…
• 1:11:58
  Tad Eggleston: For good or bad, comics being a medium where it's a little bit cheaper to do things than almost any other medium, just because the people who love making comics love making comics, and are often broke.
• 1:12:08
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:12:12
  Tad Eggleston: Dangle a living wage and some health insurance in front of them?
• 1:12:19
  Tad Eggleston: Any closing thoughts on Disney comics around the world?
• 1:12:23
  Phil: No, I think, I think, that's, that's, that's pretty much what I got.
• 1:12:27
  Tad Eggleston: Alrighty.
• 1:12:30
  Tad Eggleston: Books that I hope will be spectacular next week.
• 1:12:33
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I know that the opening book from Sean Murphy's new series, Last Driver, is fantastic. I highly suspect, and am looking forward to reading, Powers 25 number 12, which will wrap up this story arc.
• 1:12:49
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if they're gonna immediately go into a 13, whether they're gonna continue it as Powers 25, what exactly the plan is. It seems like they don't intend to…
• 1:13:01
  Tad Eggleston: Abandoned powers for as long
• 1:13:05
  Tad Eggleston: as they did between this and the last one ever again. They really enjoy doing them.
• 1:13:12
  Tad Eggleston: But I also know that they both have all sorts of stuff that they enjoy doing, so it'll be interesting to see. Madison Oming. Skate Ali, number 3, Kelly Sudakonic, Sam Humphreys, and Natasha Bustos. This has been such a fun, like, punk… punk skate comic.
• 1:13:27
  Tad Eggleston: In a slightly dystopian future, where skating is not allowed.
• 1:13:33
  Tad Eggleston: Along with a lot of other things.
• 1:13:35
  Tad Eggleston: And then, the conclusion of Lucky Devils from Charles Sewell and Ryan Brown, an image.
• 1:13:42
  Tad Eggleston: are the ones that I am most looking forward to.
• 1:13:47
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, I expected this.
• 1:13:50
  Tad Eggleston: Yep. Bill, your, your all-new giant-sized trade winner pick!
• 1:13:54
  Tad Eggleston: That's here.
• 1:13:55
  Phil: Assorted Crisis Events Volume 2 from Dennis Camp, Eric Sawadsky, Jory Belair, Hassan Natsmin El-How over at Image Comics. If you haven't been reading it in single issues for whatever reason, it is coming out collected for you.
• 1:14:12
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 1:14:13
  Phil: one. Yep.
• 1:14:14
  Tad Eggleston: Sounds good.
• 1:14:15
  Phil: Not to plug it when it's there.
• 1:14:17
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, for 22 panels, this has been…
• 1:14:21
  Tad Eggleston: Episode 249, and overall episode, I think we're gonna be… give me a second, I'm tracking this a little bit better now, so I'll…
• 1:14:33
  Phil: 937?
• 1:14:37
  Phil: 48?
• 1:14:38
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I don't… I don't think it's quite that high yet.
• 1:14:41
  Tad Eggleston: I know it feels like it should be.
• 1:14:44
  Phil: I mean, if you're gonna be on track for the…
• 1:14:46
  Tad Eggleston: I actually…
• 1:14:47
  Phil: Well, roundtable upset a thousand.
• 1:14:49
  Tad Eggleston: I actually wound up slowing down, remember?
• 1:14:52
  Phil: Yep, yep, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:14:53
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, half the reason the neurodiversity theater wound up coming into existence is I hadn't recorded another episode this week, and, like.
• 1:15:04
  Phil: You alright?
• 1:15:04
  Tad Eggleston: too.
• 1:15:05
  Phil: There you go.
• 1:15:06
  Phil: Get the wiggles out.
• 1:15:08
  Tad Eggleston: Right, so, so… Neurodiversity theater will be 9-13, this is 9-14.
• 1:15:14
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:15:14
  Tad Eggleston: on two panels. Nate67, and we will see you… After the next page.