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Hunting Down Then Flipping A Zombie Home James Dainard From A&E · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm well, I mean, come on, James, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: when you're traveling into these homes, I'll bet you you're
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  Speaker 1: just like my dad was, and you're finding stuff behind
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  Speaker 1: those walls and you sit there in complete awe.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my yeah. I love what I find inside the wall. Well,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I do, sometimes I do not. We have found
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  Speaker 3: some bad things inside the walls, but that's always what
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  Speaker 3: they like. The curiosity like, it's just like what is inside?
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  Speaker 3: We found good things and we found bad things. The
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  Speaker 3: best thing ever found was a brick of gold, though
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  Speaker 3: we literally found a brick of gold inside.
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  Speaker 1: The walls got Oh my god. My dad used to
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  Speaker 1: find porn all the time. I mean, this dirty old
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  Speaker 1: man from the fifties and sixties dude, And it was
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  Speaker 1: like what which was scary because porn back then was
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I just wait where.
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  Speaker 3: We found some nineteen fifties retro stuff and the man,
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  Speaker 3: that was some aggressive stuff back then. I didn't realize.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was a little bit more neutral, but
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  Speaker 3: it was a yeah, cases and cases.
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  Speaker 2: Of porn that I definitely found.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm so jealous of what you're doing because my
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  Speaker 1: dad didn't take it to the level where you are,
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  Speaker 1: where you're flipping these homes in there, and we just
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  Speaker 1: rock these buildings, man, because we knew that we could
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  Speaker 1: go in there and get stuff that we could sell
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  Speaker 1: at the nearby auction. I mean, and so I'm really
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  Speaker 1: jealous of million dollars zombie flip because and I'm so
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  Speaker 1: addicted to it because of that, because you give me options,
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  Speaker 1: and why am I not doing this like my dad.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, that's every house is a piece.
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  Speaker 3: It's a puzzle that you're just trying to solve, Like
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  Speaker 3: how do you how do you maximize it? How do
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  Speaker 3: you maximize the potential, whether it's selling the items off
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  Speaker 3: like you guys were doing and then doing the renovation.
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  Speaker 2: But it is, it's a it's a puzzle you.
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  Speaker 3: Have to solve because if you put in the wrong pieces,
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  Speaker 3: the game's over. Like it's it's a high risk, high
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  Speaker 3: reward business. But you know, I think sometimes you just
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  Speaker 3: got to take your first step. You just don't need
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  Speaker 3: to buy a zombie on the first one. That's the
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  Speaker 3: key by you know, taking small steps, because when you
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  Speaker 3: take the big step, it can you can be stuck
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  Speaker 3: in it for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: How do you deal with money pit itis then, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my god, when you're buying one of these
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  Speaker 1: zombie homes, you know that's gonna cost you some bucks.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, that is Uh, there's ever, never ending.
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  Speaker 2: Expenses you can spend on these houses.
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  Speaker 3: And so we we look at every house like it's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of science, Like we come in with
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  Speaker 3: a formal plan, not just hey, we're gonna make it
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  Speaker 3: look nice. We have allowances set and there's ways that
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  Speaker 3: you got to keep your team in checks the way
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  Speaker 3: you don't overspend. But you have to learn how to
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  Speaker 3: pivot too, because just like your dad, when you open
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  Speaker 3: up those walls and you find bad things, those are
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  Speaker 3: expenses that were not on your line item. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: you have to figure out how to make it up
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  Speaker 3: in different ways. And that comes down to shopping, discipline
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  Speaker 3: and pricing things out. I mean even today, you know
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  Speaker 3: we buy a lot of homes.
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  Speaker 2: We do a long time.
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  Speaker 3: We get multiple bids on everything and you have to
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  Speaker 3: to keep the cost down.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a collective things? And the reason why I
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  Speaker 1: bring that up is my front yard is a chunk
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  Speaker 1: of the old Mecklenburg County Courthouse from one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. I had to have that. I
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  Speaker 1: still when they were ripping that building down, I said,
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  Speaker 1: the hell that's going into the ground or someplace. I
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  Speaker 1: have to have it. Do you feel the same way?
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  Speaker 1: And did I take a spook with me?
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: No, there's a time and place to keep things. I
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  Speaker 3: will say I stopped. I used to take a lot
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  Speaker 3: more things with me, and then I started becoming the hoarder. Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 3: where all of a sudden I had like my garage
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  Speaker 3: was full of They're like, oh, I got a wood
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  Speaker 3: cutting machine.
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  Speaker 2: I gots old cool.
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  Speaker 3: I did find these really cool like a collector item,
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  Speaker 3: Playboy series of.
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  Speaker 2: Frame pictures.
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  Speaker 3: I still have them, actually, So I did get an
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  Speaker 3: age chair recently too, which I was stoked by. It
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  Speaker 3: was like in one of the grosses of the gross
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  Speaker 3: and I'm moving some things around and I found in
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  Speaker 3: the original like nineteen forty seven aimed chair. So I
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  Speaker 3: will keep the certain things, But most of the time
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  Speaker 3: I had to get the clutter out of my life,
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  Speaker 3: so I let everyone else take it. But every once
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  Speaker 3: in a while I will bring something home. I found
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  Speaker 3: a Santa recently, did you know what, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if I even talk about this on here with I
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  Speaker 3: didn't take that home because it's so funny.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I love what you're doing, and I just wish
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  Speaker 1: more viewers and even listeners would go and be at
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  Speaker 1: one of these homes because I'll tell you, one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that keeps that house or even home inside
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  Speaker 1: your soul, the smell of it from the second you
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  Speaker 1: walk in and you start ripping that monkey apart and
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  Speaker 1: refurbishing it. Oh my god, what a smell or smell elves.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, if you can't taste it, it's not a good
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  Speaker 3: one like that. You know, I cheer a lot of
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  Speaker 3: gum because I'm kind of a little add and I've
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  Speaker 3: learned you cannot chew gum in these houses because you'll
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  Speaker 3: chase it like it gets in your gum, and then
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you're chewing your gum.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's in your mouth like it's.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we always have a car full of hand sanitizer,
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  Speaker 3: baby wipes, and cleaners and mouthwash because after we leave,
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  Speaker 3: we just have to like go through all three because
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  Speaker 3: you can taste them. But the smell is real, especially
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  Speaker 3: when there's a cat. Oh caties, it's a gnarly one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it was always the basement. The basement was and
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  Speaker 1: it was so scary to go into the basement. And
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  Speaker 1: I always blamed it on Hollywood, But my god, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you're doing a zombie home, I mean it's got
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  Speaker 1: to be really freaky for you to go into dark
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  Speaker 1: areas that don't even have uplighting in them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you're that. I think I got used to it.
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  Speaker 3: So when I was in I got in this business
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  Speaker 3: by knocking on doors and I would be out late
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  Speaker 3: at night. You know, we're buying some weird houses. It
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  Speaker 3: was for an investment company, and it would always be
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  Speaker 3: like midnight and then they're like, okay, go check out
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  Speaker 3: the basement. And the worst part checking out of zombie
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  Speaker 3: house is when someone's walking behind you as you're going
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  Speaker 3: into the.
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  Speaker 2: Basement late at night.
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  Speaker 3: There's a couple of them where I thought I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to put the lotion in the basket.
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  Speaker 2: By the end of it, I was pretty scared.
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  Speaker 1: So now, when you go in to make the investment
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  Speaker 1: in a zombie home, do you ever feel like a
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  Speaker 1: neo young saying I'm going to keep the backside of
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  Speaker 1: this and I'm going to make it more modern on
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  Speaker 1: the upper side, Because I mean, I thought I felt
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  Speaker 1: that was pretty inspiring by him when he when he
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  Speaker 1: redid that barn out there in Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we I really, I mean, we have to
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  Speaker 3: redo most surfaces on these houses and we try to
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  Speaker 3: bring them back to their collectic era, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: in season one, we did one in Capitol Hill, which
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  Speaker 3: is a very old neighborhood in Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: We upgraded the site. You know, we we will.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're flippers, so we try to control our costs.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a time and place to upgrade those costs.
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  Speaker 3: And that was one of them where we put those
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  Speaker 3: fish scale sighting.
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  Speaker 2: Pieces on them, and.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's really expensive. It's about five times more than
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  Speaker 3: traditional sighting. But that's how we brought this one hundred
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  Speaker 3: year old home back to life in the way it
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to look in there. And so we modernize everything,
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  Speaker 3: but I really try to keep the architectural integrity of
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  Speaker 3: the house and we want to lean into it like
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  Speaker 3: with a mid century a crossman and keep that soul
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  Speaker 3: alive because that's what the buyers looking for. That's why
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  Speaker 3: they're shopping in that specific neighborhood. And so we don't
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  Speaker 3: like to reinvent the wheel, but when we do, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, changing windows around you. You can modernize things,
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  Speaker 3: but kind of still stay with that at COLLECTI hera well.
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  Speaker 1: I think part of the mystery and the mystique of
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  Speaker 1: what you do on million dollars zombie flips on A
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  Speaker 1: and E is the fact that you are in Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: It is a city that has no explanation. All of
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  Speaker 1: those ghosts and spooks coming in from the Puget Sound
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  Speaker 1: or over there at those Cascade Mountains, the whole rainforest.
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  Speaker 1: My god, dude, all of that is inside those walls,
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  Speaker 1: and you have the balls to go in there and
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  Speaker 1: make sure that you can clean it up and make
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  Speaker 1: it better.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, water is a real Water does more damage
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  Speaker 2: than fire, that does.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I will say there was some floors that
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  Speaker 3: gave out when we were season two. This is next level.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we one point. I remember just leaning on
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  Speaker 3: a wall and whole ceiling classed on me. It's uh
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  Speaker 3: and it once water gets in, it just finds its
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  Speaker 3: way and it just eats the house alive.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with James from Million
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  Speaker 1: Dollars Zombie Flip on A and E coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen the show yet? It's quite the experience.
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  Speaker 1: Million Dollars Zombie Flips from A and E. We are
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  Speaker 1: back with James. Are you like me though that you
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  Speaker 1: learn that casual walk in the way that it's almost
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  Speaker 1: like you put your foot forward and you feel with
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  Speaker 1: your toes without putting your heel down, because once you
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  Speaker 1: fall through a floor one time, I mean you're you're
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  Speaker 1: you are scarred for the rest of your life, or
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  Speaker 1: you step on a nail for some fricking reason because
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: I've had lots of nails, lots of cuts.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I jump on everything. No, I'm like a little kid.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I think they like enjoy filming with me,
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  Speaker 3: because like when you get there, You're like, ooh, what
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  Speaker 3: how far can I go out on this thing? Like
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  Speaker 3: I were, I jump up on the roofs, I go
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  Speaker 3: on the decks and yeah, you had that like very
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  Speaker 3: very soft walk and there's you know, I look, I
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  Speaker 3: got good balance.
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  Speaker 2: But I am getting older. I probably should check myself.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember one.
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  Speaker 3: Part of the season, and this we didn't film it
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  Speaker 3: is we were walking around getting ready and I'm walking
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  Speaker 3: through this house and all of a sudden, the sub
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  Speaker 3: floors were given out, and I'm like, oh no, this
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  Speaker 3: is bad because a tree had hit it. It's rotted.
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  Speaker 3: It's really bad. And I'm like, oh no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: no no, and I'm like yelling for my producer. And
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  Speaker 3: by the time he looked over my I was that
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  Speaker 3: I was knee deep, not knee deep excuse me, shoulder
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  Speaker 3: deep in this house and it was just my head
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, thank god, there was no basement
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  Speaker 3: underneath this section this house, or I would have been
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  Speaker 3: all the way down.
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  Speaker 2: It had totally rotted it out.
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  Speaker 1: It was like Quicksand well, you've also got to be
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  Speaker 1: somebody who likes bugs too, because when you get into
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  Speaker 1: one of those places and you see some I don't
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you don't even know what the hell it is,
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  Speaker 1: and but you're sitting there going, damn take a picture
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  Speaker 1: of it, man, because I'm never to see this thing
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  Speaker 1: ever again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. I hate bugs.
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  Speaker 3: I can handle rats, I can handle snakes. I can
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  Speaker 3: handle the random dude in the closet that you didn't
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  Speaker 3: know it was there. But spiders, man, it's got eight
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  Speaker 3: like eight eyes. I do not like it in that.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, we have seen some pretty crazy things.
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  Speaker 1: So do you walk in there with spiritual tools? Because
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  Speaker 1: if you were to walk into my studio right now,
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  Speaker 1: I am so protected by Native American spiritual tools that
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  Speaker 1: there's I mean, you only hope that they really do work.
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  Speaker 1: When you walk into a home a zombie flip, you
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  Speaker 1: are you protected by anything like that because you are
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  Speaker 1: from Native American country up there that Seattle area.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I don't know for I would say, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if we're protected from anything, but it's, uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not much of a a mask guy.
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  Speaker 3: I must be protected by something because the houses I've
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  Speaker 3: gone in, I go pretty raw in, Like I'll row
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  Speaker 3: like I got no gloves on, I got no I
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  Speaker 3: kind of like like I kind of like like like
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  Speaker 3: feeling the house like you know, it's like it's like
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  Speaker 3: our bonding moment before we buy it. And I must
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  Speaker 3: be protected by something because honestly, I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: I made it out of some of these homes.
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  Speaker 2: They're so gnarly.
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  Speaker 1: How do you deal with those moments when you walk
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  Speaker 1: in the house and and things that you want to
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  Speaker 1: do to it as you're flipping it? You sit there
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  Speaker 1: and you've got to think about that damn budget. That
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  Speaker 1: thing is always in my way. But yeah, but you
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  Speaker 1: know that if you did, if you made this move,
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  Speaker 1: it would sell in a heartbeat, it would flip.
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  Speaker 3: Well if if I if I can make a move
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  Speaker 3: and I know it will sell in the heartbeat, then
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  Speaker 3: we're going to figure out how to cut the costs
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  Speaker 3: in other sections. I mean, that's what we're trying to
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  Speaker 3: do is solve that problem that gets it livable. But
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  Speaker 3: what you have to remember when you're flipping is there's
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  Speaker 3: a domino effect to everything that you do. One thing
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  Speaker 3: and it can trip a domino. They will just explode
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  Speaker 3: the costs. And so you know, what we try to
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  Speaker 3: do is we try to stay inside the structural part
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  Speaker 3: of the walls, Like we'll fix the structure, but there's
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  Speaker 3: some little tricks you can do to where you know,
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  Speaker 3: we can maybe make the floor plan a little bit
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  Speaker 3: bit better, but.
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  Speaker 2: We're making it good enough.
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  Speaker 3: And by making it good enough, we get the project
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  Speaker 3: done in a half the amount of time.
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  Speaker 2: The costs go down by thirty percent.
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  Speaker 3: And also we don't have to sell this house for
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  Speaker 3: the highest of the high to where someone can buy
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  Speaker 3: something that's a little bit more affordable too. And so
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  Speaker 3: there is a magic equation for each house. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what I think. I think that's my gift in life
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  Speaker 3: is looking at these impossible puzzles on these houses and going.
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  Speaker 2: This will work. Yeah. Yeah, And we made enough mistakes
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  Speaker 2: where we've learned those lessons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to say a word here that maybe
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  Speaker 1: many of today's construction workers haven't heard because they don't
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  Speaker 1: have to deal with it. How are you putting up
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  Speaker 1: with laugh? Do you keep the laugh up on that wall?
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  Speaker 1: Or do you rip that crap down and get it
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  Speaker 1: out of there as quickly as possible so you can
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  Speaker 1: put some sheet rock in there.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it depends on the city and what we're
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  Speaker 3: trying to accomplish. Because so like if I take all
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  Speaker 3: the laugh of a house, which we do often, it
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  Speaker 3: automatically triggers me to take this twenty six code the
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  Speaker 3: insulation retro fitting framing. Your time to get a permit
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  Speaker 3: could go all of a sudden, seattles six months to
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  Speaker 3: get permits a sitting there, and so it's a strategic
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  Speaker 3: thing to keep the lab There's a couple of houses
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  Speaker 3: right now though, that we were keeping it because they
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  Speaker 3: have those cool coved ceilings and the original character, and
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  Speaker 3: so especially when we have stuff like that going on,
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  Speaker 3: we try to salvage it. But honestly, it doesn't really
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  Speaker 3: save any money. You spend more on your electrical you
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  Speaker 3: spend more on your plumbing, you spend more on your
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  Speaker 3: It costs just as much to replaster the house to
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  Speaker 3: make a match a new drywall. It's more a strategy,
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  Speaker 3: the character saying, but that that stuff is nasty. It
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  Speaker 3: like cutting through that stuff is not fun, So you
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  Speaker 3: got to get your testing dusk before you do it too,
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  Speaker 3: make sure. Well.
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  Speaker 1: I've always thought that the wood back then was different
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  Speaker 1: than it is today, because why the hell doesn't Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god? I mean it's it's like your skill saw
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  Speaker 1: is going to take a fricking beating. And but yet
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  Speaker 1: if I if I go and I buy freshwood today,
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  Speaker 1: it's like me and you're done, You're going, what the
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: hell here? What happened? Why did it take my dad
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: hours to get through this wood?
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the wood is kind of like, uh,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: what's in all these like soy burgers that you're like,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: what's really in this? Right?
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: You don't know what's actually it's.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Made at It's like, you know, like the impossible burger.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: You're like, I don't know what's in this, but it
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: tastes like meat. It's that's kind of how I described
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: the lumber. I think the best lumber that you can
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: buy the era. I love a nineteen fifties to nineteen
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: sixties house. I'll give you that. Yeah, that is when
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: it was like that thick warehouser wood they were in
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: they're built in. Each era has their own issues, right,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Like the twenties has kind of more rotted, would you know,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: it's a little bit thinner, a lot of plaster issues.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: The eighties had terrible. That's the eighties is kind of
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: when the sighting a windows and the grooves started going
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: a little bit cheaper. But so each era has its
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: own issues. But by far, nineteen fifties house in our
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: market are the best best songs in my opinion. That's
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: when the foundations need more solid to two.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Wow, So who gets the job of using the big
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: shovel to clean up that junk on the floor, Because
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: you can't do it if you're if you're if you're
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the foreman of this project, you got to give to
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: somebody that's going to hold the stop sign at a
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: construction site.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'll mess around in it, but I'm not
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: thinking it now.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, that's what I'm not throwing my back into
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: this one.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, But if I had to do anything,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be demo because I'm doing everything else wrong.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not a skilled carpenter. That's for sure, Like I
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: can't even color inside the lines. But you know it's
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: so Ryan from the show, you know that was his
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: original job was in two thousand and eight and we're
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: in a recession, got introduced it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: It was a buddy of mine. He goes, hey, my.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Friend Ryan's looking for a job. I mean, that was
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: his job, was to trash houses. And this poor kid,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: like he had the worst job ever. It was like,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: especially back then in two thousand and eight and nine,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: abandoned house. And that's what me and him have such
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: a special bond. I've seen him remove some of the
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: grossest stuff I've ever seen, and he run the cruise.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: It's a tough job.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: So what do you do in those moments? And this
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: is this is going to be totally from my wife
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: because this is how she thinks. When you're flipping a
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: zombie house, how do you not price yourself out in
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: that neighborhood because if the neighborhood is also run down,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there is there such a thing as
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: a price out for you in your business?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, you can, you can easily outbuild your neighborhood. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: you know you don't want to do that, and so
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: like there's some things that we make sure that we
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: don't do. You know, it's all about the first initial
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: evaluation of property. What do you think that property is
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: worth in putting that value at you? And what some
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: people make the mistake of is they camp into better
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: neighborhoods and go, well, I'm going to just say it's
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: worth a little bit less and make it just as
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: nice nice, whereas we do the polar opposite, I comp
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: into lesser neighborhoods.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Because you can always camp down and adjust up.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: You never wanted to adjust down because it's too hard
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: of a tangible to put on a house, and so
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I don't ever do that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: But it's you can make you know, I.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Call those houses patha you know, their market trendsetters or
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: path of progress. Right where there's a neighborhood, we're starting
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: kind of getting the jump start, getting that thing kind
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: of renovated into market. But you got to control your costs,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: and so how you go over budget is really based
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: on that plan. There's so many different ways, like how
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: you lay your home down, where you put your bathroot.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Those can make it very very expensive. But keep yourself
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: on an allowance. Right when we buy a house, we go. Hey,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: our floors are three bucks foot or less if our
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: tile needs to be four dollars or less. And that's
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: the hard rule of our office is you can't spend
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: more on it unless we can sell it for more
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: good and and so you know, you have to control
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: yourself self control, right if you can't fall in love
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: with your own house. And those guidelines are what keep
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: you in budget.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, you got to come back to this show
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: anytime in the future. Twenty minutes with you is just
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: barely scratching the door.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I love coming. You're in North Carolina, you know I
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: almost moved out that way.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Staye Oh there's a lot of zombie homes here. Man,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you come down here anytime you want to. We'll rip.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: What are these monkeys down?
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Will we can go surfing and garment?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I'm all in.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, guy, are you too