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The Favorites - Mailbag Episode Part II · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: are you doing brother? I'm ready to dig in, man,
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  Speaker 1: first one up. It's offseason. You're gonna start doing some work,
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  Speaker 1: started thinking about your power rankings. What are the most
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  Speaker 1: important elements in your power rankings? And this is a
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  Speaker 1: good pre see to the next question. I want to ask,
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  Speaker 1: what's the most important elements in my power rankings. That's
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  Speaker 1: hard because it's different between in season and out of season.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say before the season, it's really basic. I literally
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  Speaker 1: just look for team strength and weaknesses. And you know
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  Speaker 1: I talk all the time. I start with the old line,
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  Speaker 1: I start with the D line, start with the quarterback. Next,
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  Speaker 1: I go to head coach, which obviously you know I
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  Speaker 1: talk all the time. That's a big deal of people
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  Speaker 1: like the head coaching football. There's a reason there's so
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  Speaker 1: much turnover, and the ones at last tend to be really, really,
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  Speaker 1: really good at their jobs. I mean, as much shit
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  Speaker 1: as people want to give Tomlin in Pittsburgh because he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't really had that much playoffs success, the man every
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  Speaker 1: year gets that team above five hundred, Like that's got
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  Speaker 1: to count for something. So yeah, I would say that's
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  Speaker 1: a little tough, just because it does change during the season.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say definitely if you're looking just bare bones.
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  Speaker 1: I keep telling you guys a nauseum that old line
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  Speaker 1: D line thing is a big deal. And coming to
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  Speaker 1: the year, it saved my ass. Like I was all
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  Speaker 1: in on the Eagles and the Chiefs because I had
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  Speaker 1: them as my two highest graded old lines. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not always gonna be that simple, but I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you more often than that, it's gonna matter. And my
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  Speaker 1: biggest lesson I'll ever ever learn was when I first
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  Speaker 1: started out, my first year was that Patriots Giant super Bowl?
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  Speaker 1: So what was that twenty ten chat twenty twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 1: I forget that all it was twenty twenty nine that yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yeah or yeah, whatever it was. I just remember that
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  Speaker 1: was really an AHA moment of you know how much
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  Speaker 1: of a difference a game wrecking in front four can make.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I got lucky throughout the years with that.
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  Speaker 1: I won big on that Denver Verse Carolina super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: Sam exact thing. I just banked on a good defense.
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  Speaker 1: So um yeah, if you're if you're looking for important
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  Speaker 1: elements to grading the power rankings, I would say that
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  Speaker 1: don't just blindly just do it off the cornerbacks, because
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  Speaker 1: that's so Chalky, that's so Joe. Yeah, where it is
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  Speaker 1: because there's just so much that goes into it. I
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  Speaker 1: mean we talk all the time Mahomes is the unicorn,
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  Speaker 1: Like you don't really get that kind of thing where
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  Speaker 1: he was. We can easily say he was the main
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  Speaker 1: reason for that Chief super Bowl run. I mean their
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  Speaker 1: first game they won by a touchdown, the second game
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  Speaker 1: they won by field goal, and they won the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl by field goal. It's like, you got those kind
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  Speaker 1: of close games that's usually because the quarterbacks that good
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  Speaker 1: to keep you in it. I feel like that's why
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  Speaker 1: we all knew Joe Burrow was that guy. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that playoff from they had every game they kept winning
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  Speaker 1: by three points. That's kind you know, that's how you
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  Speaker 1: know you have a guy. It's like this guy, when
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  Speaker 1: it gets really tight, can make those moves. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: you can't really find that building a model. So if
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  Speaker 1: you're looking for things like that, those are things I
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  Speaker 1: look for in quarterbacks. I want quarterbacks that can win
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  Speaker 1: really tight games. That's that's a really big deal to me.
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  Speaker 1: A quarterback that doesn't get tight, he can play free
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  Speaker 1: and loose. So if you're looking for different elements head
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  Speaker 1: coach all offensive line, defensive line, and quarterback. Obviously those
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  Speaker 1: are those are my bread and butter. Those are the
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  Speaker 1: most important things to look at. That's a good answer
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  Speaker 1: because we've got a question later on about a very
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  Speaker 1: specific head coach and how he can impact gambling. What
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  Speaker 1: I would say about head coaches, just to lend some
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  Speaker 1: context to this is, over the years, professional betters would
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  Speaker 1: always say Bill Belichick was really the only head coach
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  Speaker 1: that had any kind of impact on the point spread
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  Speaker 1: in a positive way, right, Like you would give him
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  Speaker 1: an extra point because of the way he could gain
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  Speaker 1: plan and the way he thought about the rules. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that there's a coach today that you give
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  Speaker 1: that point to when you're power rating as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: you just want to think about, all right, this is
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  Speaker 1: a guy who has an advantage when you're handicapping. The
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  Speaker 1: flip side of that is, I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: wise guys who used to take a point away from
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers because of the way North Turner, the former
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  Speaker 1: coach there, used to coach the games. So I just
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  Speaker 1: think that's interesting contact next to Simon, Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 1: say there's certain coaches as a dog where I give
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  Speaker 1: them a point like if Shannahan's a dog, I give
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  Speaker 1: Shannahan a nice bump there. Like we've seen a time
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  Speaker 1: and time agame Shannon as an underdog has been profitable.
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  Speaker 1: Same with Doug Peterson. Doug Peterson as an underdog has
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  Speaker 1: been profitable. So there's certain coaches where I'm right there
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  Speaker 1: with Chad where it's like nothing's like Belichick. Belichick. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say he was free money as an underdog,
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  Speaker 1: but he was like there was a run there where
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  Speaker 1: you know, Brady was either out for injury or he
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  Speaker 1: was out for deflate gate, and I think he was
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  Speaker 1: an underdog and every one of those three games or
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  Speaker 1: four games, and I think he went three and one
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  Speaker 1: in those games Belichick with the backup. So it's just
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  Speaker 1: one of those where Chad's right, Like I know, plenty
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  Speaker 1: of pros they just you know, they won six and
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  Speaker 1: three betting on time in the Super Bowl, so they
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  Speaker 1: were happy with the results. They just blindly would take
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  Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady in those runs just because they had
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  Speaker 1: that much respect for him in his game planning, because
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  Speaker 1: we saw a time and time again, he's just when
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  Speaker 1: he was on top of his game. Belich there was
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  Speaker 1: no better defensive mine in football? What are the three
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  Speaker 1: most important things you look at when handicapping an NFL game.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take this one first because I'm curious to see
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  Speaker 1: if you are thinking about the same things. But I
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  Speaker 1: am looking for. Do I immediately see an edge in
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  Speaker 1: a short home favorite or a home underdog. I immediately
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  Speaker 1: look at where the market is and do I think
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be an advantage? And I also try
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  Speaker 1: to incorporate what happened the previous week, which goes into
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  Speaker 1: both of those things. But I try to let that
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  Speaker 1: be something that has a pretty powerful influence on how
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about handicapping a game. It's almost to me
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  Speaker 1: it's entirely perception in market when I first look at
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  Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, that's tough. I mean it's I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: because there's not like three things. Every everything is kind
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  Speaker 1: of unique and different. Every scenario is unique and different.
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  Speaker 1: So my most basic first three first three things you
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  Speaker 1: look at, um, I don't know. Man, Again, I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to grab my head around. There's just so many different things,
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  Speaker 1: like Chad just said, like there's some some games where
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  Speaker 1: I don't even need to run my model, like living
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  Speaker 1: the team will get blown out last week. Now they're
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  Speaker 1: coming home playing a team that beat the crap at
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  Speaker 1: US some team last week, and there are seven point
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  Speaker 1: favorite on the road. Chad knows the deal. Like I
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  Speaker 1: almost blindly always take that underdog, right, But that's I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the question, Like, that's that's how I looked
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  Speaker 1: at it. That's how I'm answering it, like you and I.
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  Speaker 1: You and I look at the board every single week,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, in the fall, we're gonna start doing
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  Speaker 1: episodes on Sunday nights as soon as the late games
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  Speaker 1: are over, and there might be some lines posted that
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  Speaker 1: we'll have some early opinions, right, but by Tuesday we're
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  Speaker 1: looking at the board. We've been looking at it for
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  Speaker 1: you know, say thirty six hours by the time we
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  Speaker 1: do the podcast, and we know it without having done
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  Speaker 1: any modeling. Yeah, which games we like, and it's that
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  Speaker 1: is entirely based on the market. Yeah, So I would say, like,
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  Speaker 1: that's obviously an important thing to look for, but I
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  Speaker 1: would say, for you know, just starting out for people,
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  Speaker 1: I would look at the public, what the public's doing. Like, again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't blindly do it, but if you find yourself
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  Speaker 1: in line with everyone else on a public side, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's an issue. You gotta start checking those things. Where
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  Speaker 1: I told people in the playoffs it's different. I don't
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  Speaker 1: mind betting with the public in the playoffs, but during
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  Speaker 1: the regular season there's certain times where I just won't
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  Speaker 1: touch a game even if I like that same side,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just either play the other side or I'll just
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  Speaker 1: stay stay out of it. So for just starting out,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, try to learn that. Try to learn
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  Speaker 1: that of you know, again, you don't blindly fade the public,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't want to be on the public side
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  Speaker 1: all the time. If you find yourself on the public
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  Speaker 1: side all the time, you gotta redo your model, like
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  Speaker 1: something's clearly wrong in your model, because I mean, try
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  Speaker 1: to talk all the time. A lot of time I
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  Speaker 1: find value is you know, a team will be as
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  Speaker 1: low as it's been all year, and that's peak value
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  Speaker 1: on certain teams. So for me, from the most important
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  Speaker 1: things you look at when handicapping, i'd tell people to
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  Speaker 1: start there, and then also, you know, go through trends.
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  Speaker 1: Like trends, once again, I don't blindly bet off it.
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  Speaker 1: I do think they're very important too. Betting like trends
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  Speaker 1: can kind of help you make a mindset of how
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  Speaker 1: you think the game's gonna play out, and I'll let
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  Speaker 1: you stay away from repeating the history again. People get
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  Speaker 1: in trouble because they keep repeating the same history over
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  Speaker 1: and over again. Trend's gonna help you stop that. Like
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  Speaker 1: if you if you kept liking fading the Eagles in
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  Speaker 1: the first half, and then you realize, well, the trend
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  Speaker 1: says they're five and oh in the first half, that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty easy. You just stop fading the Eagles in the
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  Speaker 1: first half. So that's one of those where I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about the biggest trend better, I need to look at trends.
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  Speaker 1: I need to make sure I'm checking the trends because
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I can save you from easting a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money thinking you know more where you know. Trends tend
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  Speaker 1: to be pretty right, like things are what they are.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they're trends. So again, not one size fits all,
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  Speaker 1: but I like to check trends before I make bets.
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  Speaker 1: Trends are trends for a reason. Cliches are true for
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  Speaker 1: a reason. There you go, when let me let me
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  Speaker 1: scroll down. You know, Matt Mitchell put these all together
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  Speaker 1: in a very thoughtful Google doc. But one of the
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  Speaker 1: questions that is lower in our dock is about Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 1: And we were just talking about coaches Belichick, Tomlin, norv Turner. Right, Shanahan,
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  Speaker 1: you and I both love Sean Payton. You're we talked
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  Speaker 1: about the Broncos and our Futures podcast right after the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Love them. Massive impact. I mean, it's the
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  Speaker 1: question is how big of an impact gambling wise does
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Sean Payne's return actually have? Huge? It's like going from again,
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  Speaker 1: I hate shit on people's cars, but it's like going
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  Speaker 1: from driving a Kia to a Lamborghini like that. That
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  Speaker 1: last head coach. We all saw it first the first
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  Speaker 1: game of their season. Yeah. I wasn't trying to be
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  Speaker 1: an asshole. I just said that was fire bull shit.
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  Speaker 1: This guy didn't know how to handle the moments, and
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  Speaker 1: we saw a playoff for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 1: The guy just was not meant to be head coach.
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  Speaker 1: He might be a great offensive coordinator, he just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have that part of his brain that can work to
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  Speaker 1: be a head coach, which is you're calling the plays,
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  Speaker 1: you're doing all this other bullshit, but in the back
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  Speaker 1: of your mind. You know you have three timeouts and
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  Speaker 1: there's three minutes left to go, and you have to
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  Speaker 1: make a plan and want to use those timeouts. That's
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  Speaker 1: all real stuff. Sean Payton to me, he's everything I
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  Speaker 1: love of a head coach. This guy is obsessed with
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  Speaker 1: football and he's so fucking smart. Like one of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite Teampaign stories ever was that bounty gate. Remember you
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  Speaker 1: got kicked out of the NFL for a year or two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he went to coach his sons high school team, which
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  Speaker 1: I think the previous year had two wins. They went undefeated,
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  Speaker 1: and they want to stay championship. So it's one of
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  Speaker 1: those things where it's like this guy is really smart
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  Speaker 1: at taking what he has and making a system around it.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what he'll do here where you know
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  Speaker 1: all that bs. We heard Russell Wilson had his own
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  Speaker 1: people in the building and his own nutritionist was in
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  Speaker 1: the building. He wanted the time Brady treatment. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I love Sean Payne. He's gonna come in there and
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be like, dude, I was the one that
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  Speaker 1: I brought you to hear to Denver, like I could
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  Speaker 1: care less. This new ownership aint the one that brought
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  Speaker 1: you here to Denver. They could care less about you too.
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  Speaker 1: If you wanted me to get the little bit of
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  Speaker 1: outs of talent out of you, you're gonna shape up
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  Speaker 1: and listen to it. To say, I think that's what
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  Speaker 1: Sean's gonna do right away, where he's gonna go and
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna kick a kick a bunch of guy's asses.
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  Speaker 1: That's a team with a shitload of talent. So that's
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  Speaker 1: why you know, coming into Denver, I'm their biggest weakness
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  Speaker 1: is still to me, their offensive line. I think Peyton,
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  Speaker 1: the mind he has, he'll be able to scheme around that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: So you know, if I was gonna actually put a
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: number on it, I would give them an extra win
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: and a half to two wins on Sean Payton. So
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: say I have the top five quarterbacks, I mean not
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks coaches this year. I'd still put Belichick one, put
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Andy at two. Maybe I put Shanahan. Even though Shannon
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: has no rings, I still think he's that good. I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: put him at three, McVeigh four, and I would, honestly,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: even with the years missed, I put Sean Payne at five.
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  Speaker 1: I just think he is that good of a head coach.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's a big deal. Like you
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: gotta get it all right, all these things you need
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to line up, You need to get the quarterback, and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you need to get the coach. And I think at
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: this point they have the coach for sure in Denver.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if they have the quarterback. That's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: an interesting discussion. I would also add, I can't argue
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: with your top five. You know, I love Shanahan. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: think he's brilliant. Yeah, but I would also put in
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: there John Harbaugh, I would put Dan Campbell, I would
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: put I would put day Ball in there. I would
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: put Tomlin in there. That's nine, and I put Rabel
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: in there. That's ten. Yeah, enough to put. I'd also
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: have to put in um Matt Eberflus. Why because the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: way he allowed the barriers to look competitive but was
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: still smart enough to lose ten eleven straight games to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: end the year and end up with the number one pick.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That is macki Avellian's true don't sleep on Listen everyone
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: says don't sleep on Eberflus. I completely forget what that
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• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you on pick love the Guy. Yeah, here's an interesting one.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: A lot of football questions, but I think this is
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: a really important one. It says a lot about the
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: person you are, how you approach life. We had a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: lot of that in the previous podcast. If you were
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: perpetually surrounded. Before I get to that, let me just
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: say I do think answering the question about whether or
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: not you believe in aliens says a lot about who
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, it's true, and I'm glad that we
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: were aligned on that question. So this is another test
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of our relationship and our compatibility. If you were perpetually
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: surrounded by one aroma that you and everyone around you
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: could smell, what would it be. It's tough because I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: know you eventually I hate it. Like my first thought
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: was bacon, but then it might ruin the smell of
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: bacon for me. But I have a really weird thing.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite smell. Ever, this is weird as shit is
• 19:37
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  Speaker 1: one on the stands when they're doing the warm up
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  Speaker 1: shots and stuff. No, I used to huffle, man, It's
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like pure rubber or whatever that smell was. I loved
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  Speaker 1: it as a kid. Now I'm older, I don't smell
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: hockey pucks anymore. But yeah, Simon, from eight to twelve, Oh,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that was my favorite thing about America. Catch a hockey
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: puck in the stands, just that bad boy, the whole,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the whole game. So I don't know. I'm trying to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: think of what weird ass smell I would like forever,
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  Speaker 1: and it might be that rubber. I just used to
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: love the smell of hockey pucks. You are a freak. Yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I know. It's the most random thing. That is the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: most random thing. Like you could say, you could say citrus,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you could say vanilla. Yeah, you could say fresh pine
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: like I did straight, Like when I did dip, I
• 20:31
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• 20:34
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• 20:35
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• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like the smell of the forest
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: on a camping trip when you first wake up. If
• 20:46
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• 20:48
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• 20:51
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  Speaker 1: I'm very My wife will tell you I'm very ol
• 21:05
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• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like can smell immediately if something is off and don't
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: like it. I just you know, it's like I hate
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: pour I hate potpourri. Yeah, hate hate potpourri. Can't can't
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• 21:25
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• 21:28
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• 21:31
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  Speaker 1: your life, and it couldn't be football, what do you choose,
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• 24:14
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• 24:16
  Speaker 1: if you build a model, you can find the huge
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• 24:34
  Speaker 1: baseball is the grind of grinds. But I just I
• 24:40
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• 24:42
  Speaker 1: used to be obsessed with fantasy baseball when I was
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• 24:59
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• 25:01
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• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that with baseball, like just literally go into a hole
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  Speaker 1: I'll go with baseball. I would bet first five in baseball.
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  Speaker 1: I would have bet full game in baseball. I would
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  Speaker 1: My answer would be an era and a sport. So
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  Speaker 1: if I could bet one sport forever, and it couldn't
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: be the NFL, I'm betting late nineties college basketball, and
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm probably betting like the extra games that Ritchie Batolary
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  Speaker 1: posted at the MGM. So when I was writing The Odds,
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  Speaker 1: my best selling book about guys who've been in sports
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  Speaker 1: for a living, when I spent six months in Vegas
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: tracking these guys, and Alan Boston was the professional better
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: who I profiled, and he was the best college basketball
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  Speaker 1: better in the world at the time. And I'd be
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  Speaker 1: with him on a Saturday, full day, on a Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: seven am to seven pm West Coast time, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's literally betten millions over the course of the day
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  Speaker 1: on college basketball. But the MGM and the books then
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  Speaker 1: they you know, you could find some really good opportunities
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  Speaker 1: because if you were focused on college basketball, especially October November,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the books just couldn't be sharp. Like, you know, ken
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  Speaker 1: palm was barely a thing. If it was a thing
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  Speaker 1: at that point, I don't think it was. And so
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the books were so focused on baseball, NBA, college football, NFL,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: there wasn't an opportunity to really make great lines for
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: college basketball. And then Richie box Hilary took it one
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: step further and was posting lines like Patriot League lines
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  Speaker 1: that nobody else was posting, and was taken big, big limits,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like he didn't give a fuck, and so you could
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: go in and just clean up on those games and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: he didn't care. He like this was old end of
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: old school Vegas where bookmakers were gamblers, right They weren't.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: They weren't sort of considered to be the arbitrage experts
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  Speaker 1: that they are now. They weren't trading floor analysts, right.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: They were bookmakers who were thrown up lines, letting wise
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: guys come in pound him into shape, taking big limits
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  Speaker 1: and letting the chips fall where they may. That's what
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I would bet, and that's the era I would be better.
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  Speaker 1: It in can't argue with it doesn't that sound nice. Yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like back then the Stardust, which is the
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  Speaker 1: book that I profiled, and the bookmakers were Bob Scucci
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  Speaker 1: and Joe Lupo, and you know, they'd have a line
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: out the door at eight am for from wise guys
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to bet the opening lines for college basketball. They weren't
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: betting them offshore yet, like it was just starting to
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  Speaker 1: become a thing, so they would just line up to
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  Speaker 1: get like the freshest lines. It's like line enough to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: get the best fish at the fish market at four
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. It was just fucking insane. I wonder
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: how you would have done back then, if you would
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: have liked it like before, I know you lived in Vegas,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: but like before you had the advantage of technology and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: all these kinds of things. They would say. I would
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: definitely say I would have gone broke easier. That would
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: be the damn truth. Where like a model is a
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  Speaker 1: nice crack, I can line my model up with a
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: bunch of other things. I can line it up with
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the old school guys who are, like I told you
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: all the times, there's guys who walk outside, you know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and they're mustard staining tank top and they'll look up
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: in the sky and I'll be like, you know what,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: today I'm betting the Knicks and the Knicks school win
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  Speaker 1: by like thirty and I'm like, how do these guys
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: do it with no model? But they do it. They
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: got good source and everything like that. So I would
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: say back then it would have been a different type
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: of work where all you're doing is talking to sources
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  Speaker 1: and you're talking to other pros. You're trying to line
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: up with all them, where nowadays you know you got models,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you have trends, all these other things, where pre Internet
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: there was none of that. I mean that labs. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: can't imagine my life without bet labs chat. So I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: would say I would probably wouldn't survive, but I would
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: be miserable. That would be a really tough life to live.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you mentioned no Internet. There's the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: old school stories about Lem Banker, who was like one
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: of the original old school professional betters. He would go
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to the airport early in the morning in Las Vegas
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and as the businessmen flying into Vegas on the first
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: flights out from the East Coast would throw away their newspapers,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: he would grab the sports section from the garbage and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: start reading it to see if there was any edge
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he could get on the games that night for lines
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  Speaker 1: that were just being posted, you know, ten am noon
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: in Vegas, Alan Boston. When I was doing the book,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: he used to you call the scorers tables for schools
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: on the East Coast and say he was Say it was,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you know, Saint Joe's Villanova playing at Boston College. He
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: would call the scores table at Boston College and say
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: he was the reporter for Villanova and asked the scores
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: table like who's gonna be playing, who's in the lot,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: who's practicing right now, who's in shooting drills? All those
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: kinds of things to get the latest in the lineups
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that nobody else was getting. Like you had to hustle.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You couldn't just go on Twitter and follow every beat writer. Yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you get an answer. Those are harder days, really harder days.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: One of our two more questions. One of our favorite
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: teams to bash this past year where the Los Angeles Chargers.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Somehow Staley kept his job, but Joe Lombardi, the offensive coordinator,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: got fired. The defensive coordinator, Ronaldo Hill just left to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: take a job working for the Miami Dolphins, and his
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: old boss vic Angio Brandon Stay remains. Do we think
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: these are improvements? Are we just rearranging deck chairs in
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the Titanic? Kellen Moore is the new offensive coordinator. I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: saw this and I thought, start at the top, it
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to the same coach. The rest of it's not going
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: to make a difference. Yeah, it feels that way. It
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: feels like it's also an owner kind of being cheap,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: like the owners should have let this guy go eat
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the money, hired a new guy, but he isn't. And no,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it sucks. If you're a Chargers fan. You have the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: dream snare, you have the all pro quarterback on a
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: rookie contract, and what did we just see? We saw
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, same exact draft class make it to a
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: super Bowl. We saw Hurts, same draft class make it
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. We've seen two us struggle. We've
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: seen Herbert struggle. I mean Herbert, he doesn't want a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: playoff game yet We're this is year four reading into
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: So I feel bad for Chargers fans, So I'm not
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: gonna try to be them up, but yeah, I'd be pissed.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: It's like it wasn't Herbert's fault. They let the Jaguars
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: come all the way back in that game. That was
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the head coach is fault and the head coach is
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the guy that runs the defense as well. So not good.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm trying to be positive because it's Herbert.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Like Herbert, he's so good. But I think we're all
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: at this point now where he's looking like a damn arena.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Like all the talent in the world, I just can't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: see him win of the Super Bowl as is. So
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that's the fear right now. If you're a Herbert a
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: fan or just a backer, it's like, kid, it was
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: all the town in the world. It might be like
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: betting on the Cowboys when a Super Bowl it's just
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a dumb bet. It's just a team that they might
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: have all the hype, they just won't get there. But
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. With this Chargers team, I feel like,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and maybe this is a bad move because I was
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: so in on the Chargers two years ago. Yeah, I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: was in on the chart to win the Super Bowl.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I was in on the Chargers last year to win
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the division, although I don't think I was in on
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: them as much as I was in on the Broncos. Yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the Chargers. I just Staley's one of those coaches to
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: me where he hasn't proven it enough for me to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: believe that he can do what he needs to do
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert, and like, if I'm the Chargers ownership
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to win, I'm like, fucking Sean Pitts available.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I got a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback here, Get
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: me Sean fucking Peyton and let me fix this. Yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, I didn't watch much of
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Mahomes's parade speech, but I can tell you ninety percent
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of it was directed towards people like Chad, which was, yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Mahomes lost Tyreek, They're gona rebuild a year. Denver's by
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the best team in that division. Mahomes was firing away
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: on all those people. So that's definitely one of those
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: where I'm with Chad where it's like I just don't
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: want to be burned back on this Chargers team again,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: where they're in a division with Mahomes. Last question before
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: we get out of here. I am very excited about
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Been reading a lot about it. The
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Bears have the number one pick. What are they gonna do?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: It's a couple months away. Still, we've covered it a
• 34:10
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• 34:15
  Speaker 1: When does NFL Draft betting season heat up for you?
• 34:18
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• 34:22
  Speaker 1: shitload of speculation and market movement on Will Levis to
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: be the number one overall player taken. And that's all.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: This time of year is where it's like, no, that kid.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Will you talk to anyone that watches college football? Apparently
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: that kid is not that good, Like nothing about him
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: screams good. But to me, that's irrelevant. You're looking for
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: a body type in a style and what would you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: rather have. People You want to have a great college
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: quarterback in Baker Mayfield or you want the kid from
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Wyoming and Josh Allen. So it's just like I say
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: it all the time. These kids people, especially if people
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: watch college football, I think they know shit. It's like, dude,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the NFL, this ain't no little boys league. There ain't
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: no little kids playing like college football. This is grown man.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Shit with growing man have to play a sport where
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be taking hits. So you know, I'm not
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: here to shoot on him, but Bryce Young off my board.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Like that kid, I might take a mid second, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: take a flyer on him, like a Jalen Hurts type.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: That kid don't have the body for this league at all.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I just cannot see him last in this league. Now
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: he might take a ship ton of weight gain or
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: do whatever he needs to before the combine. That kid,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: to me, will not will not last in this league.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't have the body type for it. And
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: it's like trying to have to put these guys into
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a box. But there's a reason that you know, Kyler
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Murray has been hurt a lot. Lamar Jackson, He's had
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: multiple years now he's been hurt again. These are guys
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: who are smaller, good athletes, race young, no good athlete,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Like I don't think this kid's going to run under
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: a four or five. He's just probably one of the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: smartest quarterbacks I've ever watched on tape, and he has
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a credible arm. So to me, I get why Bryshrong
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: still is a number one pick. I got no issue
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: of this kid will goes number one or the kid
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I love, Anthony Richardson goes number one. It's just like
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to project out like that's my job right now,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: like me and Chad talked about, I don't know if
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I talk on the show, I'm actually working for an
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: NFL team that share and doing stuff for the draft.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I've sent them a little little notes and stuff I've taken.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Right now, I'll really dive in in a month. This
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: is kind of as a pro better. This is kind
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: of like our little break here. So basically, I'll chill
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: right now. I mean, I'm gonna workaholics. So I've been
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: doing the draft anyway. I just love watching film. I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: started now. But I'll say most pros, you know, like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: say I got I don't know. I might have eight
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: people now working underneath me. I had three of them
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: working on the draft since December, so I means they're
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: they're watching tape, they're running notes, and then they're matching
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: up with teams. We're gonna be able to find value
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: betting on the draft come draft season. Me personally, my
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: biggest thing I studied the quarterbacks. Like to me, that's
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: the moneymaker. I mean, we just talked about Herbert. I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: gave about Herbert to win Rookie the Year in nineteen
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: to one, So like, did I really think Herbert was
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: gonna win Rookie of the Year this first year. No,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I just thought this guy has a crazy amount of talent,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: and then I got lucky with you know, Tyrod Taylor
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: got a needle to his lung, and then Herbert was
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: in the rest of the year. So you need a
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: little luck with these kind of things. And I'm kind
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: of on the same spot here of I don't really
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: like Bryce Young. I don't like his body type. I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: got major questions with c. J. Stroud, And again I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: watched this kid will I don't think he's good. I
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: really don't, but it's got the body. He's tall as shit,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: He's like, what six four or six five, with an
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: absolute incredible arm, and you know, there's just a little
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: things like that. So yeah, it's if people are doing
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: draft prep now like they want to do it as pros,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I would say, trying to make a big board and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the way you think the draft's gonna play out. But
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, no, the Bears could
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: trade that pick next week and then it's all gonna
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: be thrown to ship. Right, It's all gonna be chaos
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: if they do trade that pick. So this year, for
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: right now, I haven't made too many bets yet on
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the quarterback position. But one thing I did I gave
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: it on the Action app was I bet Anthony Richards
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to be the first quarterback. Take it at forty to one.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It's down to twenty to one in most books. So
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I think other people are in the same line of me,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: of this is a good QB class, but I don't
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: know who the best quarterback is yet. It's the same
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: thing of that year Baker got taken out one. I
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: did not see that comming. I really did think it
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: was gonna be Sam Darnold, and then a day or
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: two before the word came out that I was Baker
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: and it was a mass Panico get Baker at a
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: plus number. So I think we might be in the
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: same situation now, where for months it's been Bryce Young
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: as the number one pick. I think that's gonna flip
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks as we get more
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: combine tape and other stuff comes out. Listen, for every
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen body type prototype, there's a Mitch Trubisky. Yeah
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: that's fair, but Mitch Mitchy started for one year. That
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: was again that's a big red flag. Played one year
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