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Full Show Podcast: 05 September 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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  Speaker 1: earlier this show with One Root Love where you Live
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  Speaker 1: News Talks, it'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Wanting to you. Welcome to the end of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. Coming up in the next
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  Speaker 2: sixty minutes for the trucks on the road right now,
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  Speaker 2: apparently a lot of you are driving exhausted because of
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  Speaker 2: employer pressure. We'll have that story for you in five.
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  Speaker 2: Fortress Eden Park is under threat as the Springbox come
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  Speaker 2: to town. We're going to talk to the CEO next
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  Speaker 2: outner in ten minutes time. It may have escaped your attention,
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  Speaker 2: but we have a by election this weekend and my
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on that and the new deportation laws are they needed?
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  Speaker 2: Will they work that story? Just before six plus Vincent
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  Speaker 2: Macavenni from Europe and correspondence from right around New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: and you can have your say to on the text.
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  Speaker 2: The number is ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies.
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  Speaker 2: It's seven after five.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It's Friday, the fifth of September. About thirty countries joined
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  Speaker 2: virtually and in person for the Coalition of the Willing Meeting.
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  Speaker 3: I am thankful to all of them for their ideas
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  Speaker 3: for their readiness to help Ukraine on our way to peace.
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  Speaker 2: LED's Zelanski. Trump spoke over the phone to Wistern allies
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  Speaker 2: after the meeting.
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  Speaker 4: What they have apparently come up with so far is
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  Speaker 4: a commitment from twenty six of those countries to provide
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  Speaker 4: some sort of truth deployment as part of those security guarantees.
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  Speaker 4: Mister Macron insisted that the US was on board. He
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  Speaker 4: said there will be details of the US position in
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  Speaker 4: the days to come.
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  Speaker 2: To Europe we go. At least sixteen are dead and
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  Speaker 2: twenty others injured in a funicular crash in Lisbon. Portugal's
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  Speaker 2: Prime minister describes it as one of the biggest tragedies
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  Speaker 2: in the capital's recent history.
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  Speaker 5: The way that the streetcar works is that there are
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  Speaker 5: too so there's one that goes up and one that
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  Speaker 5: comes down at the same time the one that was
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  Speaker 5: coming down with the one which suddenly seemed to come
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  Speaker 5: off the cable and collapse. Mercifully, it did not crash
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  Speaker 5: and collide into the one which is down here, which
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  Speaker 5: already had people inside this and before the death toll
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  Speaker 5: could have been even higher had that happened.
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  Speaker 2: And many new Zealanders have been on that particular my
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  Speaker 2: son was on it two years ago. And finally to
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  Speaker 2: the United States, where Health Secretary RFK Junior is appearing
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  Speaker 2: before a fiery Senate committee. Kennedy says he believes the
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  Speaker 2: COVID pandemic was politicized in the States.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's over the country, mister Secretary.
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  Speaker 6: Scientists and doctors are saying otherwise. They're all wrong too,
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  Speaker 6: They're all lying. According to you, a scientist.
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  Speaker 2: Doctors are supporting me over the country. I will tell
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  Speaker 2: you what, Senator got.
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  Speaker 7: I will put my mail bag against your mail bag.
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  Speaker 1: Got day thirty the first word on the News of
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  Speaker 1: the Day early edition with Andrew Dickens and One Route
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  Speaker 1: Love where you Live news talks, they'd.
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  Speaker 2: Be RFK Junior's vocal fry is amazing. Anyway, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: skiing next week. My mum was a ski instructor in
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  Speaker 2: Austria back in the fifties. I was put on skis
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  Speaker 2: when I was three. It's in my DNA. I have
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  Speaker 2: to do it. Thirty years ago, mum bought a timeshare
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  Speaker 2: in Wuannica. She bought it late in September so if
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  Speaker 2: she couldn't ski, which happened often because there was no snow,
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  Speaker 2: she could go to the Alexandra Blossom Festival. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: me and my family go every year. And here is
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  Speaker 2: something I've noticed over the past decade. This snow arrives later.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a poor season this year, but the last
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  Speaker 2: week is seeing the snow come in right over the
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  Speaker 2: whole country, much to the operators of Mount Rupe, who's relief.
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  Speaker 2: To me, anecdotally, after a lifetime of living in this weather,
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  Speaker 2: it seems to me like winter arrives later and summer
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  Speaker 2: lasts longer. And you could say that's a sign of
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  Speaker 2: climate change. Now, I don't care whose fault it is.
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  Speaker 2: It just is this snow comes in later, and I
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  Speaker 2: guess with the longest summers as well. It's something we
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  Speaker 2: all have to get to grips with. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: care if you don't think it's happening, but sucks for you,
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  Speaker 2: your insurance company does. So we should all live our
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  Speaker 2: life accordingly. Realize that there is a penalty to be
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  Speaker 2: paid if you buy a place by the sea, or
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  Speaker 2: you purchase in a flood zone and in summer you
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  Speaker 2: need to close your north windows and draw the curtains
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  Speaker 2: and open the doors to the south because the climate,
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  Speaker 2: whether you like it or not, is changing.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, By the.
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  Speaker 2: Way, I booked this break last year for one reason
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  Speaker 2: and one reason only. So Ho Basin has opened at
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  Speaker 2: Cardrona and I can't wait to explore one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty hectares a brand new territory. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: fabulous now. Apparently our truck drivers and welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're on the road, and I know you're listic.
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  Speaker 2: This is a story all about you. Apparently our truck
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  Speaker 2: drivers are being pushed to their limits, and we'll have
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  Speaker 2: that story for you next. It is now eleven minutes
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  Speaker 2: after five.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the Headlines on early edition with Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Dickens and one roof Love where you live News talks
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  Speaker 1: that'd be.
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  Speaker 2: You want to say, you can text me ninety two
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  Speaker 2: ninety two, And thank you to the text who pointed
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  Speaker 2: out my first mistake of the morning. Apparently I just
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  Speaker 2: said me and my family, and the text to points
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  Speaker 2: out it is my family, and yes, I know, but
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. Thirteen minutes out to five,
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  Speaker 2: Exhausted truck drivers say they're being pushed to speed, skip
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  Speaker 2: brakes and bend the law just to keep the freight
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  Speaker 2: moving in this great country of ours. Unions warn the
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  Speaker 2: cutthroat industry of slashing safety and putting everybody on the
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  Speaker 2: road at risk. So Lance Gush is from the Workers
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  Speaker 2: First Union, he's an organizer, joins you this morning, Good
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  Speaker 2: morning to your Lance. Good morning Andrew, how are you good?
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  Speaker 2: How did you find out that the conditions are this bad?
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  Speaker 8: Our role is to advocate and support represent drivers and
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  Speaker 8: working in amongst them and getting a feel for the industry.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot of pressure put on them to deliver
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  Speaker 8: on time and full but certainly unacceptable time limits.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, why are these conditions so bad?
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  Speaker 8: The system set up to give all the power to
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  Speaker 8: the large companies that pain these freight companies to move
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  Speaker 8: their goods, and effectively they're in control. Freight companies are
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  Speaker 8: undercutting each other to get the contracts because we'll live
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  Speaker 8: in a small country and it's super competitive. We've had
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  Speaker 8: examples of companies that have had to hit drop just
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  Speaker 8: to maintain and keep the contracts. They've had to drop
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  Speaker 8: three vehicles out of a ninety vehicle fleet.
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  Speaker 9: Expect with the.
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  Speaker 8: Expectations to provide the same service and deliver the same
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  Speaker 8: amount of products.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if the margins are so tight for the freighters,
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  Speaker 2: they can't really afford to have more drivers, which will
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  Speaker 2: be the answer to the problem. So what is there
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  Speaker 2: an answer?
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  Speaker 8: Save Freights is a campaign that's global and what it.
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  Speaker 9: Does is it effectively sets.
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  Speaker 8: A bottom line or a floor that they are unable
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  Speaker 8: to go below. It's mandated by the government and produce
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  Speaker 8: quarterly and effectively. It says that this is the fixed
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  Speaker 8: strate of providing these seven and that way it gives
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  Speaker 8: a level playing field for the companies that are tendering
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  Speaker 8: for these agreements.
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  Speaker 2: So they have to change their conditions voluntarily.
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  Speaker 7: This system will.
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  Speaker 8: Mean that the government mandates it and regulates it, and
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  Speaker 8: that way, the larger businesses that are providing this or
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  Speaker 8: that are driving this are unable to be offered anything
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  Speaker 8: less than the floor.
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  Speaker 2: Are people still wanting to become truckies or is there
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  Speaker 2: a shortage?
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  Speaker 8: Look, we were experiencing a shortage. You know, I live
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  Speaker 8: in Aucklands. Everyone here knows that there's seems to be
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  Speaker 8: a lot more heavy vehicles on the road. So but
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  Speaker 8: I think the model is changing. From what we can see,
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  Speaker 8: it seems like businesses are moving away from having permanent
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  Speaker 8: employees and moving more towards either the owner driver models
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  Speaker 8: or the use of contractors to try and mitigate losses.
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  Speaker 8: Is really what they comes down to.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like you're on the road right now, are you.
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  Speaker 8: I'm literally on my way to catch up with seventy
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  Speaker 8: of my drivers I represent. We're heading into bargaining and
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  Speaker 8: just wanting to get a feel for, well, what a
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  Speaker 8: fair and reasonable pay increase would look like for them.
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  Speaker 2: This one all right?
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  Speaker 7: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, give them, give them my best and thank you
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  Speaker 2: so much for keeping all the goods on the roads
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  Speaker 2: and keeping the economy moving. And I thank you for
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  Speaker 2: your time. That is Lance Gush, the Workers First Union organizer.
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  Speaker 2: It is seventeen minutes after five. And this isn't a
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  Speaker 2: story about trucks. It's about tractors. John Deere, the US icon,
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  Speaker 2: the tractor maker, is having hard time. Sales are down
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  Speaker 2: and they're suffering because of the higher metal tariffs they reckon.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to cost the tractor market six hundred million bucks. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: American farmers are facing dwriddling overseas demand for their crops.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a double whammy really, and so the market
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  Speaker 2: for new tractors has withered. On the vine. Farmers are
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  Speaker 2: buying secondhand, but only if they have to. Oh, there's
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  Speaker 2: a big game this weekend dam Park Fortress Eden Park,
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  Speaker 2: where we haven't been defeated since nineteen ninety four to
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  Speaker 2: fifty games. The CEO must be nervous. Necks out numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Next on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition
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  Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roofe Love where you Live
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  Speaker 1: News Talk said been.
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  Speaker 2: Nineteen past five. The Texas ninety two ninety two Mel
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  Speaker 2: has written and says sounds more like the desk jockeys
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  Speaker 2: that do not do the actual driving are driving the
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  Speaker 2: rules and they would have no idea about driver safety.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for your feedback.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so are calling it the biggest match in rugby
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  Speaker 2: since the twenty three World Cup Final. I degree the
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  Speaker 2: All Backs will be taking on the spring box at
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  Speaker 2: Eden Park and it's happening this Saturday. The All Backs
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  Speaker 2: have been undefeated there for fifty straight test Fortress Eden Park.
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  Speaker 2: Last time they lost was back in nineteen ninety four.
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  Speaker 6: Is do you have the busiers quietest moment a series
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  Speaker 6: win over in New Zealand Price twenty three New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: That was the very first game of All Banks RUGBA
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  Speaker 2: ever went to and we lost from the try from
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  Speaker 2: the end of the world next sortons The CEO of
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  Speaker 2: Eden Parknick Gooday.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning Andrew, and thanks for your taling.
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  Speaker 2: Nervous a little bit the staff.
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  Speaker 7: Obviously, we've got a full time and casual workforce of
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  Speaker 7: over three thousand that are putting together this weekend's event
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  Speaker 7: and things important. We acknowledge that effort from the volunteers
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  Speaker 7: to the train drivers, they all contribute to the on
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  Speaker 7: field performance, but also ensuring that fortress continues.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, there's a team of five million behind
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  Speaker 2: this team mate. To be fair, but you still haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen whether you're nervous or not.
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  Speaker 7: I am it certainly is the CEO. I don't want
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  Speaker 7: the record to be broken and the All Blacks are
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  Speaker 7: great for business. Events like the test on the weekend
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  Speaker 7: highlight the benefits and major events to the city in
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  Speaker 7: the country and we want that record to continue. And
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  Speaker 7: unconfident will.
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  Speaker 2: The brand if they do lose? And have you have
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  Speaker 2: you got a campaign ready after the unthinkable?
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  Speaker 7: Well we do feedure the Fortress signed throughout and when
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  Speaker 7: teams come to play at Eden Park they play the
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  Speaker 7: All Blacks or the Black Ferns, but they also played
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  Speaker 7: in Park. And I'm sure there's something special about our
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  Speaker 7: venue as you know, and memories are created and lifelong
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  Speaker 7: stories are told, and.
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  Speaker 2: Is the attention. It's a setout that's huge. I mean
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  Speaker 2: the attention is enormous. There are parties and kingson happening
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  Speaker 2: as well, and this is all reinstating the fact that
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  Speaker 2: this is our national.
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  Speaker 7: Stadium, that's correct. I was with a business yesterday. They
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  Speaker 7: took a two hundred person booking for Saturday. Gates open
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  Speaker 7: for corporates at a four pm with public at five pm.
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  Speaker 7: We want people to arrive early. We want to be
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  Speaker 7: part of that atmosphere. There's a huge range of food
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  Speaker 7: and beverage offers at the venue and we want to
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  Speaker 7: ensure that the street to the Seed experience is what
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  Speaker 7: people expect.
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  Speaker 2: We had some news yesterday the Blues are going to
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  Speaker 2: call Eden Park home for twenty six twenty seven after
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  Speaker 2: flirting with Mount Smart. Now that would have been a
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  Speaker 2: worrying development for you because that's your anchor client.
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  Speaker 7: The Blues are critical to our business model and rugby.
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  Speaker 7: It has been an important phase for us. We are
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  Speaker 7: looking at how we can assist the Blues in their
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  Speaker 7: thirtieth year to change the experience for our fans and
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  Speaker 7: that was important conversation for us. But secure six games
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  Speaker 7: over the next two years was a great outcome for
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  Speaker 7: our national stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good on you and good luck and of course
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  Speaker 2: you've got some big events coming Metallica can't wait for
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  Speaker 2: that and of course the Edinburgh Military tat too. But
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  Speaker 2: here's a question for you. Could split in sell out
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  Speaker 2: Eden Park?
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  Speaker 7: I think they could. I think particularly with the shortage
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  Speaker 7: of content over the next music content over the next
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  Speaker 7: or six to twelve months, people are looking for that escapism.
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  Speaker 7: We also have hot Wheels, Monster trucks and International Rugby League.
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  Speaker 7: But that diversity and one off content that memories of
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  Speaker 7: something that we're focused on.
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  Speaker 2: Will split ends set out Eden Park. Could that happen?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 2: Are you not allowed to tell me? Are you?
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  Speaker 7: That's for the promoted to consider, And what I would
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  Speaker 7: suggest is since we've got our consequencent, we've had sellouts
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  Speaker 7: from each year and through to Coldplay, Coldplay through the
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  Speaker 7: Pink and pink through the Metallica.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah all great. Next, Saughtner, have a great weekend. I
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  Speaker 2: know you worked very hard over that weekend and your
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  Speaker 2: whole team. Thank you so much for making a good
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  Speaker 2: venue even greater on these big days as well. And
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  Speaker 2: speaking about splitte Ends, because of course that was the
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  Speaker 2: big news this week. Split Ends are back together a
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  Speaker 2: game playing electric avenue in christ Church. A bit of
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  Speaker 2: news out from Neil Finn because the Singapore Grand Prix
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  Speaker 2: coming up in October. October third and fifth and Crowded
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  Speaker 2: House will be playing at the Singapore Grand Prix along
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  Speaker 2: with Elton John, the Smashing Pumpkins and the Food Fighters,
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  Speaker 2: which shows you just how big mister Finn is. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's five twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Four the early edition Full the Show podcast on i
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  Speaker 2: Talks IVY, News Talks HEB. It is now five twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens. It's been a remarkable week in the
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  Speaker 2: Malori world, so I thought i'd give a few of
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  Speaker 2: my own opinions. And seeing as I am a sixty
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  Speaker 2: year old white guy, so I'm going to consider my
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  Speaker 2: comments inherently racist and no matter what I say, but
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  Speaker 2: I am allowed my opinion, just as you're allowed. Yours
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  Speaker 2: opinions are like bums. We all have one, so I
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  Speaker 2: fight it. So firstly, from to al Maori the coming
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  Speaker 2: out of the Maori Queen this week. One thing is
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  Speaker 2: for sure, Mary do this customary and ceremonial stuff. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the attendees are seeing history. A young queen is about
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  Speaker 2: to take leadership. It's pretty amazing. But I'm always amazed
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  Speaker 2: at this one years silence thing which happens after the
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  Speaker 2: death of your predecessor. Sure, okay, I get it to
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  Speaker 2: your paying respects. You're getting the lay of the land,
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  Speaker 2: you're forming your ideas for your brain. You're paying respect
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  Speaker 2: to two the guy who came before you. But come on,
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  Speaker 2: a year. Seems to me that the year's silence gives
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  Speaker 2: the kirk courtiers more power over the affair of the
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  Speaker 2: Maori state. And when the cats are away, the mice
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  Speaker 2: will play. But that's just my opinion. Now to the
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  Speaker 2: Tamakimikodo by election. I couldn't believe how many voters got
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  Speaker 2: the city council elections and the by election confused. One
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  Speaker 2: person on Telly wondered if Ornikipra was running for mayor
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  Speaker 2: and you wonder then why we get such strange governments
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  Speaker 2: and councils because people are not involved, they're not into it,
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  Speaker 2: and the candidates ran chaotic campaigns or any Kuiper had
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  Speaker 2: a shocker. She claimed her party, who have not been
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  Speaker 2: in government since twenty seventeen, had repealed laws. No, they
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  Speaker 2: did not, even when they were back as a support
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  Speaker 2: partner back in twenty seventeen. They were a support partner
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  Speaker 2: and not able to repeal laws, So what was that about.
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  Speaker 2: Then she had to grab her phone to check policy
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  Speaker 2: while Jack Tame looked on quizzically. Then she said her
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  Speaker 2: Labor opponent should be the Prime Minister of New Zealand,
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  Speaker 2: which I mean, how did Rawi and Debbie feel about that?
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  Speaker 2: She's backing the guy from the other side. I understand
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  Speaker 2: Orini's appeal. She's young, and she's smart. She was a
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  Speaker 2: respected journalist, and she's got the Maori party sartorial style,
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  Speaker 2: fine alternative statement clothes. You know that this party always
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  Speaker 2: looks like they've been styled by Zambezi. But it's not
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  Speaker 2: what you look like or what you're seeing, it's what
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  Speaker 2: you say. And she seems underdone and will get better
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  Speaker 2: with more time. It's too soon for her. Then there's
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  Speaker 2: Penny Henale, a product of Mali's hierarchical society where a
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  Speaker 2: lot of weight is given to your family, your fucka
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  Speaker 2: pappa and your journey. And he's always been mentioned as
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  Speaker 2: a future prime minister. It seems like it's owed and
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  Speaker 2: not to be earned. And you know, if he loses
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  Speaker 2: this one, it's over as a prime minister, Penne, because
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  Speaker 2: you can't be prime minister if you can't win your
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  Speaker 2: seat twice. And he also had a shock of going
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  Speaker 2: against the gang patch law and he had to be
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: corrected by Chippy. Also, I didn't need to see him
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: working out with David Littelly, the butterbean. You know, I
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: want to know what he thinks, not how he sweats.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: So you know, I don't think I could vote for
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: either of the candidates, but I can't. I'm not allowed to.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: You know about though. That seems to be how the
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: electric feels with indications of a terrible turnout this weekend,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and that really breaks my heart. That is a bad
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: thing to Mary and the tammacky Makoto by election. If
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: you respect the treaty, if you have been chosen to
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: be on a Maori roll, then you owe your people
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: to use that privilege of the vote, or could I
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: call it a right sickens? Five nine Kate Mandousikos David
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: kirk Is on with Mike Hosking after six more on
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: this to come, orso Vincent Macavenny from Europe and a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: whole heit more weird.
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: Next, whatever.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Views and views you trust to start your day, it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: earlierdiciate with Andrew Dickins and one roofe love where you
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: live news talks.
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: That'd be.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Mister game good oneing to it's Friday, you made it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I Drew Dickinson forblin Bridge. He's back on Monday. So
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: with the All Backs stucking all the oxygen right now,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: it's easy to forget that there is another big game
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: this weekend. In fact, there are two big games. Tonight
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: the All Whites play Australia and Camera and then on
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Tuesday the teams are in New Zealand to do it
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: all over again. And it's been a long while since
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: we played the Cousins from Across the Ditch and it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: much needed. Since Australia left the Oceania Confederation for Asia,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: we've been denied regular high level football against these guys
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: and it should be as big as any particular cup match.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: It's our best team. It includes Chris Wood who's with
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: the All Whites, which is probably why Nottingham Forest lost
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to west Ham this week. Newcomer Luke brook Smith is
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: enjoying being with the team. He's just seventeen years old
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and he says the atmosphere around the All Whites is
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: amazing and everyone's asking how you are and what you
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: need and he reckons whired. The team has been playing
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: so well in recent year and he's obviously starstruck to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: be playing with his heroes. It's going to be great
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and this is a good team. We're building a special
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: unit and we're off to the World Cup and you
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: have to say with Orcann FC and the Phoenix at
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the game of association football is some very good stead
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: again and by the way, the second match, there's a
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Shield challenge again this weekend as the Mighty Southern Stags
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: play Category in their first defense since winning the Shield
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: last weekend. They're hoping not to join the ranks of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: one week holders but to illustrate the power of the Shield.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Apparently there's been a run on Southend merch. You can't
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: buy a Southern Stags Jersey and Southend. Apparently there's one
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: kid size and one triple x L in a store
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: in Gore. I can tell you how big this is.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Andy Muir from the Muster has texted me broadcast out
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: of Hocknue and he says, if you're in South End,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the All Backs game becomes secondary to a shield defense tomorrow.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: It's the middle of a Rugby World Cup cycle, but
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: defending the Ranforthy Shield as a fan can be a
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: lifetime dream. Plus, who wants Canterbury to win this seal?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Get a and the twenty one to six Andrew Dickens
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: around the country. We go in two otago Callen Procter
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: us Stags fan this weekend?
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: Mate, Oh yeah, we all are here. That's right there,
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: our Highlanders neighbors. So go to the Stags big time.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm going to read this sentence out because it's bizarre.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: A Dunedin tavern has been banned from pouring paints for
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: two days after running giveaways involving a ham and a lawnmower.
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: Yep, that's correct, you can't do that, Andrew. So the
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: beer has switched off at the Kensington Sports Bar and Tavern.
• 20:37
  Speaker 10: I've been issued this liquor license suspension by the Alcohol
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: Regulatory and Licensing Authority following an application by police. Police
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: alleged that the tavern irresponsibly promoted the sale of alcohol
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: in these two separate social media posts offering prizes. One
• 20:54
  Speaker 10: promoted the chance to win a six hundred dollars lawnmower
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: and a premium ham with the purchase of elect alcoholic
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: products and that's not allowed. So in a post on
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: social media, the pub says alcohol sales will be suspended
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: all of today and all of tomorrow.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: A ham and a lawnmar anyway, how's your weather?
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: Shalls develop here heavy at times this afternoon, strong norwester
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: and eighteen the hype.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood joins usrom christ Church. Telli Claire, Good morning,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: warnings about meningitis.
• 21:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, people being told not to second yes, any
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: symptoms of meningococcal disease. This is after a teenager from
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: Shirley Boys High School here in christ Church was taken
• 21:34
  Speaker 11: to hospital on Tuesday after contracting the illness. What makes
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: us a little bit more complex is that he had
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: been at a rugby tournament in Duneden between August twenty
• 21:42
  Speaker 11: four and twenty eight, before going back to christ Church
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: to school. The Meningitis Foundation chair Gerard Rushton's warning parents
• 21:50
  Speaker 11: to check on children as there is a risk that
• 21:53
  Speaker 11: the disease has spread. He says meningitis can kill within
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: twenty four hours and the symptoms are very similar to flu,
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: which we have a lot of in the community right now,
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: so treatment to often comes too late.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: How do you wither?
• 22:05
  Speaker 11: Heaps of lightning about this morning, Andrew, but otherwise at
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: partly cloudy and a few spots of rain a bit later,
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: strong northwesterlies and a hive eighteen.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Well we're your gun boots. That's saved a guy the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: other day who was out farming. Now to Wellington we
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: go next toll. Good morning and you're here to read
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the final rights for the city to see bridge.
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: Well, that's exactly right. That's the end of the week.
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: How we started talking about. This is a giant timber
• 22:26
  Speaker 12: and concrete city to sea bridge that connects the harbor
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: and the city. Confirmed last night this Wellington Civic Trust,
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: which has been fighting planned demolition, is not going to
• 22:37
  Speaker 12: appeal a court decision allowing demolition to go ahead. And look,
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: the city council seems pretty ready to go on this one.
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: Pre work for demolition might even start today. They want
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: to get this done asap, and that's something a lot
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: of Merril candidates like Andrew Little for instance, have talked about.
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: Let's hold on a few months, see if there's a
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: better solution. We've got an election coming up in a
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: month's time. Why such a rush? Can we do this
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: thing for cheaper than the year one hundred million dollar
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: price that's been quoted. Regardless, it will be sad to
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: lose some character from the waterfront, but that now seems
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: the outcome. All right, how's your weather overcast and drizzly
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: with very strong gale northeries today fourteen the high and.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Walkland. Need a ready man, A good
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: morning to you. Good morning. So if you wanted to
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: find out what your zone is when you're looking at
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: your property, now it's a lot easier to find.
• 23:23
  Speaker 13: Yes, that's right. Aucklanders will be very happy about this
• 23:26
  Speaker 13: because those proposed zoning changes. The Auckland councils now linking
• 23:31
  Speaker 13: the maps from its homepage. This was being challenged to
• 23:34
  Speaker 13: do so by David Seymour on New Stork ZB. You know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 13: the Deputy PM told us that the maps they were
• 23:39
  Speaker 13: shamefully difficult to access. So the Council says, okay's striving
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: to be transparent. The draft maps will now be displayed
• 23:46
  Speaker 13: more prominently on the website and as you say, Andrew,
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: should be easy for you to have a look and see.
• 23:51
  Speaker 13: The Council's also saying, look the maps they're still being
• 23:53
  Speaker 13: updated to correct the errors or you know, just in
• 23:56
  Speaker 13: response to all the feedback from local boards in aweek,
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: So do you have it?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: It's a funder out when a skyscraper is coming to
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a property near you. So how's the weather today?
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: Mainly fine yay, apart from the odd shell from the afternoon.
• 24:08
  Speaker 13: But warm spring is here. Eighteen is a high I
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: thank you.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It is now seventeen to six. Brian writes, Andrew, make
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: up your mind. First you tell us that l Any
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Capita is a bit dumb and ran a poor campaign,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and then you contradicted that by telling us how respected
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a journalist she is and how smart she is. Now
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: what I said was she's underdone, she's too young, she's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: got stuff to learn. She could get good, but she
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: ain't good.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. Catman Do is going to close
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: twenty one stores in a bit to turn around their fortunes.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Because this is another retail story, isn't it. They're looking
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: to make a minimum twenty five million dollars in cost saving,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: so they've identified twenty one stores to close. They've got
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a network globally of three hundred stores, so it's you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: it's not the end of the road, but twenty one
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: stores are still big. What did they lose? The company struggled.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: They had an interim loss of more than twenty million
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: dollars a March full year loss of nearly fifty million
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: dollar last year. It's not been good. The chair of
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Catman Do is David Cook, and he's going to join
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Mike Hosking after six o'clock this morning to talk about
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: the fortunes of catmand And I'm pretty sure he'll also
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: want to talk about the all Blacks New York's here
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: being Vincent mcavenny when from Europe is with us in
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: a few moments time, and there is a digital id
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: scheme to combat illegal migration. And speaking of migration deportation,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it has been doubled here in New Zealand. We'll talk
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: on that issue just before six.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: International correspondence with ENSI Eye Insurance, Peace of mind for
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: New Zealand business.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: It's coming up thirteen minutes to six and off to
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Europe we go. Vincent mcavenni, good morning to you.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: So this funicular crash in Portugal in Lisbon. Many kiwis
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: know this because it's a huge tourist attraction. Even my
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: son has written on this. This was quite a shock.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, huge shock. Lisbon is now one of the number
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: one tourist cities in Europe. It's absolutely beautiful, but it
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: is very hilly and this funicular we understand that the
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: cable in the system underground snapped, leading to this ernicula
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to go out of control, smashing into a building at
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: around this time yesterday. Sixteen people sadly were killed, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: we've just started getting details of their nationalities. Five Portuguese nationals,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: two South Koreans, one Swiss, two Canadians, one German, one
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: American and one Ukrainian among the dead. A number of
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: others were injured as well, and it's left the city
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: in quite a shock because these funiculas aren't just popular
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: with tourists. They used day in, day out by Portuguese
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: people as well to get around.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, and it could have been worse. It could
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: have been worse if the balancing fanicular curve for the
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: other curve had actually got loose and chrished into it. It
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: could have been worsh Yeah, that's right, Okay, you have
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: a possible digital ID scheme to combat illegal migration coming in.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: This is really interesting. The last time Labor was in
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: government in at the end of their time in twenty ten,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: they had tried to roll out a digital national ID
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: card scheme. The UK is pretty much out of step
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: with the rest of Europe who all have ID card systems,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: but there's always been a really strong resistance to it
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: here on civil liberties ground. It's seen as being a
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: bit Germanic. But now Labor are back in France is saying, look,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: if you want to reduce your migration, the small boats
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: coming across the channel, you've got to have this kind
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: of national ID because it stops people being able to
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: get jobs on the black market and also to access services.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: They shouldn't be able to it or access to Terence
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: so Kirs Darman now trying to sort of float this
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: idea of a digital scheme, not compulsory, but one that
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: might help to stop this. But interestingly, those it seems
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: in our politics most against these small boats coming that
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: want to really crack down on all illegal migration and
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: some forms of legal migration, they also coming out against
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: it on civil liberty's grounds. So a bit of a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: tricky situation.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Absolutely to make of any out of Europe. And I
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: thank you for your time today. It's eleven to six.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: And the other big story is that Georgio Amani has
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: passed away, the fashion designer, the man who invented the
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: power suit. He was ninety one years of age. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: loved the clothes he made, and I love the way
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: he looked as well. He had this incredibly white hair
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and this incredible brown permit tan. He just looked incredible.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you for the clothes, Georgio. It is eleven to six.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Andrew dickens, Well, we're still on the migration and immigration
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: issues right now, right here in New Zealand, with Ericas
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Stamford sending a clear message to immigrants obey the law
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: or you're gone criminals with New Zealand residents. He could
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: now face deportation for up to twenty years after arriving.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Now that has doubled the current limit. So well this
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: work or not. We're joined by Simon Laurent, who is
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: an immigration lawyer. Simon, good morning to you.
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: Good morning.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Was this a needed change to our immigration law because
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of the critics have already said it seems
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: pretty vague.
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: Yes, well, that was the first pression that I had
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: when I read this. I think it's necessary to see
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: what's the wording of the bill itself, which hasn't even
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: been introduced yet, to see what the mechanism is really
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: going to be and how.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Many migrants actually decide to commit crimes after living here
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: for over ten years, because surely they might have been
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: criminals before they came here.
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: Well, that's a separate issue because other there are others
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: who have committed criminal offenses a long time ago, which
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: this bill seeks to sweep up. And the classic case
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: which I think has influenced this, as that of Carl Skrubik.
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: But in respect of those who might have committed offenses
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: a long time after they've arrived here and obtained residents,
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: as the Minister said yesterday, probably not very many. And
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: in fact, the other issue is that quite a lot
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: of those would probably have gone on to get citizenships,
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: so a change to the immigration rules is not going
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: to affect them.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, that thing, this is about residency. But there are
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: immigrants who come here. I'm one, I was born in
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the UK. We come here and we get citizenship. Now
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: will they be effective? If someone's been living here for
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: ten years, why would they not just go out and
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: get the citizenship and then we can't touch them anyway?
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: That's exactly it. And I mean there are people who
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: sat here as residents for twenty thirty forty years who
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: never gets citizenship. They don't need to never occurs to them.
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: They don't want to lose their birth citizenship. So there's
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: a few of those. How many of those commit serious
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: enough crimes? It's probably a very small number.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And do you think this is just politics because there's
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: so much talk about immigration. We just talked about it
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: with Vincent and mcaviniy, we've got the protests happening in
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the UK and Australia. Is this a political response to
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: a mood?
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: It's a response to a mood and an approach which
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: is sweeping through what we might call the liberal democracies
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: over the last couple of years in particular. And I
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: also thought of the way that Australia has been throwing
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: out the five o one deportees, and I sense that
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: this is all rather reactive.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I have to say, isn't the bad press for immigrants? Well,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it's unfortunate because they are so crucial for almost all
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the country's economies.
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: They're certainly crucial to New Zealand's economy, something that the
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: government must never forget.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, And on a separation, there's twenty thousand illegal overstayers
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: currently in this country. Do we need to do something
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: about that?
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: Well, there's been twenty thousand illegals overstays as long as
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: I've been in business in this field, which is about
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: thirty years, so this is no surprise at all. It
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: fluctuates back and forth. It was about fourteen thousand prior
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: to COVID. Yes, of course something should be done. Suggestion
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: has been made about having an amnesty year that I'd
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: probably support that. However, the last time we had one
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: in two thousand and two, I think it was it
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: didn't actually make a huge difference to the ultimate numbers.
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: There's always a sort of a tranch of people who
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: who will just outstay their visas.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: All right, Simon, I thank you so much for your time.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Simon Laurence here is an immigration lawyer, Chaier of the
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: New Zealand Association of Migration and Investment. This is news
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: talk there, b It is seven to.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Six the news you need this morning and the in
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: depth analysis early edition with Drew Dickets and One Room
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Love where you Live News Talks.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: That'd be Mike Coskin joins me. Now, so who's going
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to win the big game? The all Whites sore Australia.
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: I'd find it hard to believe that we could beat Australia. Really,
• 32:42
  Speaker 14: Oh well, wouldn't you?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Or can they have seed did so? Well, we've got
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Chris Wood.
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: Yeah, but we've always had Chris Wood and we've as
• 32:48
  Speaker 14: far as I can work out, we've never beaten Australia.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the other big game?
• 32:51
  Speaker 14: Technically, can I just career Andrew Wilderson, by the way,
• 32:54
  Speaker 14: who's saying that we the Warriors cannot be in the
• 32:57
  Speaker 14: top four, Now that's technically incorrect. If we be the
• 33:00
  Speaker 14: if we beat this is true, apparently, if we beat
• 33:03
  Speaker 14: the Seagulls, one hundred and fifty one nil were.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, and Andrew Webster holds a divining rod.
• 33:09
  Speaker 14: Doesn't matter.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, So the other big game is Stagg's Canterbury Ram
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: fairly shield.
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: The Canterbary and see that's unfortunate because not only will
• 33:17
  Speaker 14: Canterbury win it, but the next era will begin. Cody Taylor,
• 33:20
  Speaker 14: by the way, speaking of Cantabrian's, he's on the program
• 33:22
  Speaker 14: this morning.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got David Kirk. Got David Kirk he's a
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  Speaker 2: useful rugby player, Yeah, he.
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  Speaker 14: Was, and he's probably used to more success via the
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  Speaker 14: rugby field than he is currently with Catman Do because
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  Speaker 14: they have he's the chair of cat Man Do if
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  Speaker 14: you don't know, but Catman Do have got all sorts
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  Speaker 14: of that. They've got a number of different brands and
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  Speaker 14: Perl Katmandu have had trouble for years and years and
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  Speaker 14: years and they've got to turn around program they say
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  Speaker 14: is working that they feel good about. But twenty one stores,
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  Speaker 14: they've got a lot of stores. Theyve got three hundred stores,
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  Speaker 14: but I mean twenty one stores, a lot of stores
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  Speaker 14: to look at closing.
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  Speaker 2: And you've got Judith Collins Live Year a War correspondent
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  Speaker 2: from Poland.
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  Speaker 14: Very big, the big meeting overnight. No one seems to
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  Speaker 14: be asking this question yet, is that Mac said there's
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  Speaker 14: thirty five countries that have said will put boots on
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  Speaker 14: the ground. Are we one of them? I mean we
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  Speaker 14: were there, We're in the meeting. Are we one of them?
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  Speaker 2: What else would she be there with her handbag and
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  Speaker 2: she'll be and no flak here.
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  Speaker 14: After after seven.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike, have a great show. Thank you to
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  Speaker 2: producer Kenzie. Thank you for having me. Ryan's back next week.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great weekend.
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