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SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST_EPISODE _46 _ HOST DR CHENIZRA · DA CREW Podcast

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A person. All things ain't what they used to where in all the blue
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Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the Crew podcast. I am
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the Visionary Queen Angela and welcome to season two. I want to thank you
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for tuning in and for all of your support throughout season one. We're back
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them devas of the Airways, So thank you for joining us tonight. Share
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this with someone in your circle doctor since they are you're mute. Some still
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don't how machines are will power it too mhm. To get from on,
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there's spells and propagian and now them one how we sprouding me that she is
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and we boo bah, we let them know welcome. We were our fun
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but we found our mother. We even be united with our lost sisters and
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brothers. Africa Stretch has brought her hands to her party. Sons and daughter
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gattered across the water in this great disaster with him karim Apa that was authored
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by these thirty buttons, thinking how you won't say the world, but they
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tried to kill every last semblance of African spirit, hand skill. But destiny
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must unfold, prophecy must fulfilled, Emancipationism mounting. It's a real sleeping and
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to get to the top of it is actually our thread. That's why from
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camp Town to Cairo are being us too, Brazil nor mat where we were
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Tea. We are operat constant and we withtion of guards and we will heal
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those emotional scars. So I say a quaba welcome greeting. So tap to
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another live broadcast of building a new legacy with your hosts, Queen Mother,
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Doctor Chincerra. There are so many different elements of what is taking place in
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our global community, in our global communities and right within our center ring of
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ourselves with ourselves, through ourselves, around ourselves, looking at our body,
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mind, soul, spirit and consciousness. During these particular times this month,
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people think of showers and we see that Brains Walters flooding as a matter of
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fact, has really taking on a new personification, if you will, around
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the globe. So we want to extend prayers of safety, well wishes,
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healing and security for persons that are definitely experiencing challenges and having to engage in
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disaster recovery efforts behind some of the reins the flooding that is taking place from
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spaces in California, in the forty eight contiguous US, places like Dubai,
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in the United Arab Emirates, and other parts of the globe. And I
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think it's really important that we just ask for safety and protection in that regard.
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So tonight is really an opportunity for us to reason on a number of
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things. There is so much taking place in the wider society here in our
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midst as we are speaking. This is some of the times where there are
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closing efforts around the third session of the Permanent Forum for People of African descent,
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and people probably aren't as familiar knowing that the United Nations has a permanent
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form for people of African descent. But I think it's really critical for people
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to just be aware. You can easily go to OHHR dot org to just
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get an idea of some of the activities, the events, the research and
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more that's taking place around the region so that persons can really understand. Thank
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you very much for the support, Sister Queen Chenette Whiteside, Sister Queen Latonia,
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Michelle litter John. I'm just I'm really appreciative of the support in that
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regards as well as Basic Black after Dark. I really dig that term Basic
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Black after Dark. I want to send a shout out in that regard for
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just being able to be here some of the sisters that are part of this
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network with the crew podcast this second season, you know, made possible through
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the visionary Sister Queen Angela. I think it's really critical to know that there's
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like a lot of internal support and persons being present for other persons broadcasts,
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even if we can only listen to the replays, right the intention is to
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expand our listenership, expand and support one another because we're speaking of a variety
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of global, global personal issues as well as affairs, and it keeps all
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of us informed and it also provides a certain type of empowerment. What I
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put in the chat was the information around this third session of the Permanent Form
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on People of African Descent and what is It's taking place from sixteenth to the
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nineteenth technically ending tomorrow in the Palais des Nations at the United Nations Office in
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Geneva, in Switzerland, and this is the third one, and it's really
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important to just get an idea of knowing that this is something. There are
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a large number of delegates from around the globe that are sharing their skills,
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talents and expertise and specifically very concise statements regarding some of the affairs around this
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quote. Theme of the session, which is the second International Decade for People
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of African Descent, addressing systemic racism, reparatory justice and sustainable development. I'm
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going to say that last part again, addressing systemic racism, reparatory justice and
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sustainable development. So that's the theme of this session that's been convening from the
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sixteenth through the nineteenth of April in Geneva, Switzerland, United Nations Space.
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I think it's really important that persons are aware that this is taking place as
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we speak. And there are a number of different side events that are taking
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place outside of the actual halls of the UN, and many of them are
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around protecting women and girls of African descent after four hundred years of state violence,
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strategy sessions on reprations and reparatory justice, transformative frameworks to achieve and sustained
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employment equity, and then the implications for the UN's permanent form for people of
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African descent. So yes, from twenty fifteen, let's go back twenty eleven.
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The United Nations General Assembly designated twenty eleven as the International Year for People
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of Africa Descent, and then it grew into an International Decade for people of
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African descent with the theme of Recognition, Justice and Development for people of African
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Descent. And around this recognition, justice and development for people of African descent,
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the intention was from January first, twenty fifteen until December thirty first,
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twenty twenty four. You see what year we're in, and most persons did
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not even know that there was this first International Decade for people of African descent,
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spearheaded through the United Nations general assemily, hence the formation of a permanent
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Forum on People of African descent, and then the extension of this I shouldn't
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say the extension, but another decade so that we can actually frame actionable deliverables
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persons will hear that come out of not just my mouth, but ultimately actionable
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liverbals. We can speak on these things until we choose to stop speaking on
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these things. But this is an opportunity for us to establish strategic approaches for
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how we're actually engaged in unraveling racism, challenging the different structures for implementing inclusive
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policies that promote ethnic and racial diversity, and again, how do corporations fit
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into this. Another portion of some of the side events is some of the
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themes that are discussed HATI and resistance to the imperialist project as a reparative justice
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undertaking perfect timing for doing that, glass ceilings and glass clips. I love
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that they speak of ceilings and clips right, Advancing employment leadership and entrepreneurship for
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black women. And then, of course, how do you examine stereotypes in
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literature and media and their impact on young minds. That's a very powerful side
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event, and there are a number of other activities that are taking place around
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making recommendations for economic justice and reparations for education and systemic how do you address
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systemic racism, manifesting cultural recognition, and again just noticing that there is a
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lot of activity happening inside of the United Nations Headquarters in these respective pieces,
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and they are in multiple languages. I want to highlight that as well.
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There's a lot of conversations around global racism and how to diffuse it, deconstruct
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it, break it apart. Eradication is the EME. But I think it's
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really important to look at this particular side event a transformative framework to achieve and
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sustain employment equity. These are things, These are very relevant issues that impact
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the lives of many of us. So I think it's really critical to know
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that some of the things that have already happened and have already taken place have
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been around the realization of human rights. And there's a lot of conversations around
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the power of the arts, how to engage with sustainable development and economic justice?
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How to that was one of the thematic discussions around reparations, sustainable development
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and economic justice, and we had one of our very own ambassadors from Barbados,
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Ambassador David Commas Young as far to be part of that conversation along with
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others like Justin Hansford, doctor EPs Campbell, Barr, Michael mc McGrain,
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and Barbara G Reynolds. I think it's important for people to easily go to
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some of these sessions and that way you can see the scheduling, you'll be
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able to see some of the side events that took place some of the conversations.
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There's a lot of conversations around education, around overcoming systemic racism and so
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forth and so on. So I just wanted to give some context for how
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that looks. And then ask my illustrious sister, Queen Angela, if my
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guest is in the background, can you bring her in please? Thank you
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so very much, fantastic, what a smile. So I need you to
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unmute as well. Right, we need our glasses so we can see the
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things you're reading on the side. Okay, can you turn up your volume
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a little Okay, we're not hearing you. I can hear you very low
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a little better, but we need more volume. Okay, I have you
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as loud as I can on my side, So if you can see how
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you can get your sound to come up nnefo fi. That would be fantastic
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because I was hearing you really well on the phone. Okay, take your
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time, that's okay, don't worry about it. We're gonna make it work.
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So this is what we'll do. You're there, but let's speak on
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right. I'm gonna speak through here, and this should possibly get us through
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the board because I can hear you pretty well on the phone. Okay,
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So then turn turn your sound off here, you can just tell it mute.
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Yes, I'm doing both. Okay, beautiful. Ah, come on,
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is it still coming through the speaker there? Yeah, turn it off?
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Leave it there, No, turn it back off again? No,
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you didn't you turn now. You don't think of the habits of taking life
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or to me, I know. So that's a come. I will ask
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my engineer in the background, are we coming across? Clearly? Are we
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coming across? Somebody's moving? Okay, you can thank you so much.
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I appreciate that. So I always say that the visionary sister Queen Angela,
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the engineer in the background, is making this work for us. And since
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we were having this sound, you go ahead and speak and I will keep
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this sound up here for those that are tuned in and listening. I am
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very honored to be able to welcome my spirit sister beyond sacred colleague and a
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longstanding keeper of ancestral sacred traditions, and I always refer to her as my
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spirit sister, non fociing. It's always an honor and a privilege to have
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you join in any type of versation and discussion. How are you feeling,
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I'm feeling absolutely wonderful. I am just in such gratitude for the opportunity to
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meet with you in this kind of forum. We have been talking and talking
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and talking, but using other ways, other medalities, so it's almost like
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this is an extension, another step, another way of being in sacred space
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with each other and with the audience that you said, I'm very, very,
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very pleased to be part of this at this point right. Well,
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you know, to the ancestral energies of all the places where people are and
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are hearing us now, because they are first, always, always and given
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thanks for that, giving thanks for that. That's part of what was part
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of my opening to speak of the things that are happening globally, some of
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the things that definitely require and command that we send prayerful, positive, healing,
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unifying, liberating energies, because sometimes persons get into these circles or these
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convenience and it becomes overtly political to the point that it takes away from the
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balance that we have as spiritual beings having a human experience, and it's really
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critical, it's really critical for us to speak to that. So I would
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love for you to share just some of your perspective, because I think you
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were hearing part of what I was saying in terms of the reparations, the
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preparatory justice, the concern for women's safety women. I love that term glass
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ceilings, glass cliffs. That's I like that because that's it's not always that
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we're dealing with the ceiling portion. Sometimes there are some drop offs on the
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side. And I think, my sister, what came to my spirit as
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we spoke, as you spoke earlier, as I listened, was a question
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that I've heard asked and I happened to heard it us in this kind of
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language that I'm going to put it forward, but certainly the language I've heard
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it us in suggests that this is kind of the next step with that conversation,
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and it's a quiet conversation of why is this still relevant? All the
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deeds, all the suggestions you made earlier, all the issues and concerns that
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we're now trying to continue to focus on because some seeds have been planted.
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Why is there still relevance? Why is it still necessary to be looking at
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African descendance through some certain particular lenses. Why is it that this conversation is
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still ongoing? Will it ever close? Will balance ever be restored? How
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is it that in a world of artificial intelligence and the kind of intelligence that
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that comes from, that that is spread from, and the kind of thinking
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of the people where are supposed to be bright. We're supposed to be brilliant,
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we're supposed to be intelligent, we're supposed to be all of so many
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things. But look at what we're looking at. You know, that's a
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very freedom basic issues of respect, Basic issues basic because they are basic.
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It is based on human being to respect the other's nuclear science. Now you're
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right about that, You are absolutely correct. And not only are you correct,
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but I would go as far as to say the reason we're still having
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these questions, these discussions, these convenings is because it hasn't been healed yet,
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and we have met and we have not included the let me rephrase that
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on a wide global scale, we have limited the inclusivity. We talk about
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diversity, we talk about equity, we talk about inclusion, but we tend
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to speak of it from a very human physical body space. We don't tend
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to speak of it in this spiritual space or even open these convenings with a
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sacred intention. But we're traversing the universal space. We're going into space.
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We're trying to see life is out there somewhere. We're using artifolgial intelligence to
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do so much to fact and none of this is telling us that we're going
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to bring to those spaces and to these systems and to the information that we're
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seeking the same issues that we're grappling with. Now, where is there an
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artificial intelligence? And going out to Mars and the Moon and all these spaces,
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where's the conversation and healing? So we're going to go out to these
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spaces and with the same mindsets that we have now, we're going to destroy
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them. We're going to make them because those spaces are pretty whole. Right
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now, what are we taking there, and what are we going to build
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there with what we take there? We're going to there with these imbalances,
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with the mindsets that are not saying to us, you need to attend to
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the healing in a wholesome way so that we have more that are healed than
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are dysfunctional. So where are we going? Where we going? What are
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we doing? This is the functional people who are going to be using AI
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to do what create more dysfunction because we're not operating from a balanced space.
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I would like to suggest, we're not operating from a healed space, a
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well space. So what are we going to use these things to do other
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than to further strengthen the imbalances in which were now participating. How do we
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see that it is legitimate and perfectly in order for the UN to still be
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guarding and facilitating conversations that have to do with basic respect of another set of
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people. Yes, we're writing up heading out of Mars to build build the
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necessary vehicles with that right? M was that right? We had intelligent We're
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that's smart, but we're not smart enough to figure out how to heal some
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of the scars, how to dig up because we need to dig some of
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those wings back up, clean them out, and then see how we go
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from there, what dressings and needed. We talk about reparations, you know,
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preparations are very sore topic for me because reparations. You know, recently
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in Jamaica, there was a group of people from a church in England,
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some church that had come to make an apology. Didn't They try to find
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out how an apology it was done and it would be accepted by the standards
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and by the practices of my ancestors, the ancestors all this land, not
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just all the answers of this land. What does apology mean to them?
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How would it be done in their way? No, we're still doing before
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when you walk into a person's house and you take over and everything that goes
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your way, and Lisa, we're gonna apologize, but we're gonna do it
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all the way. And there's some things I'd like to say to them that
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I can't say on the air, Okay, And now that we know that
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the truth is what it is, who, I'm gonna highlight a couple of
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things that you said, and it's also highlighted by Sister Queen Trevita Harris.
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You know, one of our hosts here on the Crew podcast network, and
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it reads as that's the conversation we definitely need to have is one of healing.
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Kept to that, right, and I want to thank her for sharing
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that. And then right in back of that, she's also made this comment
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that I think people don't want to acknowledge their brokenness. Hence we keep repeating
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this cycle because we haven't done what you said to embrace what that hurt is,
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what needs to be healed, clean it out, complete eradication has to
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You have to recognize it. You can't just gloss over these things. You
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have to recognize it and then cleanse and then heal and then rejuvenate and build
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back again. Right. So, and I think while see everybody's on the
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same piece, thank you Basic Black after Dark that comment of some people are
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not ready and others can't recognize it, see that's see. So this is
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going into some very deep spaces and areas, And this is part of that
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whole legacy building restorative initiative that we're always working towards because many times persons are
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having significant difficulty just with recognition, much less justice, which is the precursor
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for development those themes. Those themes that are connected to this same you know,
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designation of a decade for people of African descent. And I see that
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in this first decade it was a round recognition justice and development. But in
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this second decade, as I was sharing earlier, it's very much so tied
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directly to like specifics around systemmatic racism, around repair for Tory justice, not
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just any kind of justice, but a reparatory one, right, And I
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think that that whole thing with reparations, And I guess because reparations of the
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twentieth century people just saw it as money you're gonna get to check. It
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was like another version of the forty acres and a mule that some persons keep
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thinking everyone that was exposed to and subjected to the enslavement practice in the forty
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eight contiguous US, that everybody got that forty acres and a mule. And
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that's not the case because in some areas it was never even ratified that they
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were going to do that. So some former colonizers did that as a courtesy,
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but not all. And I think that it's important that persons don't get
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twisted on what reparations looked like in the twentieth century and how reparations and reparatory
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justice and restitution, and the healing part that has to be the precursor of
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all of those things. We have to c our relations. Ultimately, we
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have to really heal our relations. Right. So you know, when we
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talk about money and we talk about reparation, there's a way, but there's
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an aspect of money that doesn't go with that. For example, all people
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were working or would be kind, little and nothing. I mean, I'd
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love to say nothing, but they did get a place to sleep, and
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they did get I suppose we call it benefits, right, I got it.
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We're got the benefits package that. Remember that we never had homes.
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We weren't able to make homes, but you were a different place to rest
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your head at nights. But we never have homes, or our ancestors didn't
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have homes, because homes are safe places. Homes are places where you know,
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nobody can break down your door and says you know back and safe.
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Homes are place where you can keep your children safe. It's not where somebody
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kept come in and take your children go sell them, I mean taking them,
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you know. So we never had homes, or ancestors didn't have homes,
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and I don't know if that registers with a lot of people. I
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remember the first time I said that in a particular gathering, everybody looked at
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me as if desid dropped from bluetooth. Mm hm. There was probably yeah,
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but you know, you probably came from closer than close because you were
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giving the truth that we did not at homes. Oh do you what kind
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of reparation? Yah? Do you make? So? Okay? Not or
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or benefits packaged and even include homes. But yes, we got some food,
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we got a little place to plant some things. Okay, so little,
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we got little, little little bit. But in terms of compensating for
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the labor, in terms of returns for labor, you see, I had
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the unfortunate experience of going to school, even ended up in a university,
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and they taught me that when you're calculating the cost of product action of any
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crop of anything, there is an item in there called label h and it
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has a cost. It's a cost, and the people who provide a label
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are the ones who are paid. This is happening in every economic system that
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we know today, in every country that we know, people are providing a
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label and in return, there is a package given and that package often includes
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some sort of financial ran some sort of authority, some sort of something.
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All ancestors were deprived of that for many, many years. So that's not
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reparation. That is your teas to people and money. You need to give
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it back to them at lease are token. You can't give it back,
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but at least a token. And see, no, you're stealing people's money.
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You have been working for nothing. I should have been working for something.
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I should have been able to buy a curtain to put cross the place
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given to limit head. Well that's why on a label. See, that's
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why that term means so many different things, and that's why people argue or
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debate or I think ultimately, at this point, people are comfortable with saying
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that reparations is an essential element inside of this global human rights movement. Like
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that's how it's become. Now it's a little different than before when people say
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that you were literally just repairing the damages done. You know, how do
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you care raping people and dismantling people's family and torturing people and stripping people of
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their family structure and you knowing killing people and their children emotion spiritual damage.
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What you're going to give it. That really is nothing you can do for
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that. So it's not for ourselves. You know, we get caught up
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with this idea of money. How much money can you give for my ancestors
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who send your job off cat be about money. It has to be about
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taking a first step, taking a first step to restoring balance. The greatest
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reparation you could do for me is to learn. Educate yourself. Educate yourself,
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go back in the history and see who and what people were, so
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who we are today will have meaning to you. That's what I want for
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my reparation. That's what my ancestors want to get. This is nobody has
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ancestors. My ancestor's sick. You don't have to give them money. Go
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and educate yourself because when you educate yourself, it is less likely that you
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would nonsense you've did before. And that's part of the reason why some of
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these conversations are still happening now, because there has not been the healing.
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And so go let me go back to another part, because I'd like to
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make sure that we stay in that same space of the healing and the importance
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of respecting our humanity, respecting our shared humanity, recognizing that when we talk
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about these things, we may start using big words because people are like,
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well, don't talk about capitalists and perialism, but you do have to talk
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about the system that facilitated this type of dehumanization, these institutions that we're now
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in a frame of decolonizing. People still are figuring out what colonization is because
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people think that there aren't any colonies anymore. But even in our space as
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throughout the Caribbean and following around the Equatorial Belt going into Pacific isles, you'll
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find out that there are a number of colonies still existing on the earth right.
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And so that means that we have to deal with a practical form of
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reconnection. How do we establish those those ways of sustaining not just creating a
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movement, but how do you sustain these movements with prosperity. And when we
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say economic prosperity, maybe I should be saying with a currency, a currency
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that's sacred, that's spiritual, that's tangible, that's physical, that you can
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materialize it. You see, how do we exchange and strengthen the different protocols
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of justice so that it's equitable not equal. I'm not expecting that my case
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is going to be seen exactly like someone else's case circumstance, but that there's
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equity in terms of my space. Is a human being in terms of my
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space? Is a spirit sister? In terms of my space? Is a
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contributor to our communities? You know, like, how do you speak of
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that? So when we talk about you know, because people have come up
36:15
with calculations very scientifically of what For example, the Virgin Islands was purchased for
36:23
twenty five million dollars in gold in nineteen sixteen. It was the most expensive
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real estate per acre that the United States government in its history since seventeen seventy
36:37
six ever paid for land. And in this case, it was land that
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was strategically located in a militaristic protected space here in the Caribban, but it
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included people. So our situation here in the Virgin Islands of the US,
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the former Dayanish West Indies and before that the French West Indies and the Brazilian
37:04
other flags, was at least a dozen flags that waved and claimed sovereignty on
37:08
these islands in militaryian. So when we speak of reparatory justice, we're talking
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about restoring that essentialness of our global human rights in this space and making that
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equitable shift that includes the resources, or I should say I wouldn't cause just
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a repayment, but an equitable distribution or redistribution of those resources. That's why
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Denmark to this day can it's the richest, the cleanness, the most developed
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nation in the world. But we're not remembering where they extrapolated. What is
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the other nice term where they extracted? Think of it like mining these resources
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from down to the very humans that they felt that they were so benevolent towards
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because they don't like to see themselves as slavers. They don't like to see
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themselves as colonizers. You know, I pick a picture because these as save
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as some colonizers, right, and I think the things I think, No,
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you go ahead, no, no, yeah. One of the things
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I think about and talk about sometimes is how how damaging that whole system of
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slavery and the enslavement of people was also to those who were perpetrating it.
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So they claimed they had souls, right, the ones who were colonizing,
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and they didn't have souls, but the ones who were amazing and enslaving high
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souls. What did all of that that we did doe to their souls.
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That is the five trillion dollar question, because what ends up happening is what
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we're seeing now. And I won't just say it's that through an act of
39:21
conscientiousness or that they is a shame maybe some of that, but we are
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seeing in the last few years an increase in the number of apologies, whether
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they're verbal, you We're seeing an increase in families that are the descendants of
39:43
colonizers and significant contributors to the enslavement industry, not to much a trade but
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warfare. As Sisters like Queen and Catching Taifa Choir has shared a lot of
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her work on reparatory justice and reparations, is that it wasn't just a trade,
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and it wasn't just an industry that required this type of trade. This
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was war and it was war out war against people of African descent and indigenous
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ancestral persons. In addition to it being blended up and twisted around with that
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endentured servitude, some of the behaviors of you know, I cannot remember the
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name of this film. I want to think it was called Nightingale, but
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it was Nightingale something else, and it was a story about the development of
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the penal colony in Australia and the type of warfare that existed between the indigenous
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original Africans in Australia, the British penal colonists, you know, the people
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that they threw out of prison and put on that island to just do whatever,
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and the Irish and the ongoing and it helped me to understand some of
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the intrinsic historical divide. You know, we tend to think that Europeans are
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always united and like, no, that's no, no, you know,
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there was a reason there was Anglish Jewkes and Saxons, right, that's not
41:30
their history. They did warfare and just ran into each other like battering rams
41:35
as humans. And I think what was powerful was to see the disregard for
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life between the British and the Irish, particularly the British directing that anger,
41:45
mismanagement and acts of terrorism and outright genocide against Irish people that they saw beneath
41:52
them, you know, in a lower class status, and then that they
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those same persons, those Europeans would then see these indigenous original what people like
42:04
to call Aboriginal, but I speak of them as the original indigenous Africans in
42:08
the island of Australia that were so knowledgeable. They knew where the animals were,
42:15
they knew where they could swim, the water they kept going. They
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knew what herbs and bush they could eat, and they helped it let these
42:22
people survive even though they were trying to annihilate them. So like all of
42:29
that comes into play when we speak of this reparatory justice, this justice that
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restores our humanity, this justice that heals these damage that's been so done to
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us that it's become InTru it's innate. Like some of the internalized hatred that
42:51
we see manifesting amongsts is coming from that. If they could do this that
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the other to us, and they don't say nothing when we take out each
43:01
other. Right, So it's time for us to really shift and bring this
43:07
work to the next level of healing. I want to send a special shout
43:10
out to Sister Queen Ajua, claud At Young Hines and my beloved sister Minister
43:17
and Reverend Petris. Good night, keep please continue, Nana, and if
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you won't have any questions or comments, please put them in the chat so
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we can share the conversation as well. I wanted to jump on all that
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you just said, because there's a way that sometimes I question our expectations around,
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let's say, preparation, our expectations around think of all you just said,
43:47
and tell me, if we had another fifty million years, is there
43:55
really anything and could it be that everything that our colonizers could do to really
44:10
to really make themselves, make their consciences clair to kind of in their own
44:22
mind even come to a sense that, yes, we have kind of and
44:24
I'm going to use this language a little bit loosely, we've kind of made
44:29
up for some of the ills we perpetrated. We've kind of made up for
44:34
some of the anomalies the dysfunction that we have cause that we have facilitated,
44:43
not just for another people, but for ourselves too. When in sixty million
44:46
years from now, will they what could they possibly do? So that's why
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I say reparation is our first step, is one of many many things to
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do, because we are also responsib for all healing, and we most realize
45:02
that. You know, I like this example. If somebody passes by you
45:07
and steps on your toe and keeps going fifty million years from said, can
45:12
imagine she stepped on me two and she's just gone. Somebody steps on your
45:16
to and they stop and they grab your tooth. Oh, I'm so sorry.
45:21
I'm so sorry. Oh my gosh, I didn't see your too.
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I'm so sorry. Does it hurt? Can I get you some eyes?
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You're gonna feel faster? And so for me, that's your preparation. Is
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that step? Is that opening step to a certain extent or one of the
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early steps. M No, that's it. And see this is now I'm
45:45
sorry, lift a thousand years from my life said, you know, she
45:47
stepped on my toe. But can you believe after she stepped on my toe,
45:51
she stopped, she grabbed, she rubbed it. She says, what
45:55
can I do? Can I bring you some ice? You realize that I'm
45:59
on my part the healing right, right, We'll see, I'm so sorry.
46:07
The queen says that there's no need for reparation. She's got to think
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she's gonna says, right, and that's it. That's the one. See
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that's this goes to the boy that you segue into this next comment is right.
46:24
You know, I'm always moved because we have one of our spirit sisters,
46:32
a colleague as well as very active you know, the chair of the
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Reparations Commission in the Bahamas, and I always, you know, I reach
46:45
out to doctor Niambi Hall Campbell for a variety of reasons, but specifically,
46:52
she did an article that was published the end of March of this year on
46:58
remixing our views on reparation, and I wanted to just share a particular portion
47:06
where she made this reference, and I quote the first remix is what I
47:10
have termed is reparations as personhood rooted in the purpose of reparations to remove the
47:17
debilitating effects of the crimes visited upon brown and black bodies through the genocide of
47:25
the native peoples of the Caribbean, the Transatlantic trade and enslaved Africans, and
47:32
the debilitating effects of the subsequent colonization. I want us to just simmer on
47:38
that for a second. And then she goes deep and starts to speak of
47:45
that whole energy that we have, of that sameness within ourselves, as that
47:51
enkonsung konsun right, that is grounded in that Buntu philosophy where we need to
47:57
be seen, you know, as humans. It's important that we embrace that
48:01
Umbuntu philosophy piece of being able to be seen, to be loved, to
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be appreciated, to be recognized, to be welcomed, to be healed,
48:10
right, And it goes back exactly and it goes into something else that she
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said here we want and I quote, we want to be seen by other
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people because our humanity is known through people. Reparations that is embedded with a
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Umbuntu philosophy is the process of repairing our personhood. It is the way in
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which we can collectively call semi here, the way in which we can be
48:43
seen right unquote. And I share that because she goes into a very powerful
48:47
framing of how reparatory justice and again what it is in twenty twenty four is
48:53
very different than what it was in nineteen seventy four or even earlier, right,
48:58
because persons would not bagating around the dollar and the economic the economic currency
49:06
in terms of the recompense. But the other part that she speaks of is
49:10
how we have to deal with our internal reparatory, just like we need to
49:15
repair the damages done on how we love ourselves, care for ourselves, heal
49:22
our families, love our sisters, embrace our brothers, embrace our youth,
49:28
embrace our elders. Regardless of some of the differences that we have right because
49:34
we are very quick. We can take on the world, act like we
49:37
move in like as so yes, you walk the Christ did one and say
49:43
that we mercy, mercy. Mercy just made me think of Reverend Father George
49:47
Franklin just became an ancestor, right. And it was powerful because that Bible
49:53
give thanks, ball give thanks, no needed that, you know. And
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it's powerful because again when we look at this reparatory justice piece and we look
50:02
at reparations, it's supposed to be that. And I quote her again as
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a tool to help us see the fullness of our humanity, first within ourselves
50:17
and then within each other. And I unquote, I really want to thank
50:22
sister, you know, our beloved sister doctor Niambi Paul Campbell, because she
50:29
also teaches at the University of Mohammas and she brings a lot of that psychosocial
50:35
element, scientific yess, but very grounded in our humanness, very grounded in
50:43
our reparatory realms of engagement. You know, you see how fast this time
50:47
goes, right, So I would love for you to share greeting Sister Joan.
50:55
A lot of people caming out listening tonight, thank you for this support.
51:00
You have comments or you like to weigh in, even if you put
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it in the chat. Now when we continue, because the broadcasts here,
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You know, we have people speaking about family matters, relationship matters, economic
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drivers, comprehensive development plans, and a variety of other things, speaking about
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spirituality in its heightened form. I think this is a wonderful network to be
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able to bring some of these things into their fruition and keep us on purpose,
52:20
really seriously, keep us on purpose. So before we get ready to
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close, none fo fia, because you know this could go on, we
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could do Yeah, I'm just going to get talk about personhood and how you
52:32
brought that to power. So bring it, but it's okay, But I
52:37
would love for you to comment, yeah, yes, I wanted to mention
52:39
that you know you brought that concept of personhood and that factor has also grown.
52:45
Did it in a can cosmology? I can world view of how personhood
52:51
speaks to how you give yourself a value and how you build quality around with
52:55
you as you learn and grow and what is during your life in a not
53:00
excellent And I think that that's the part that we're also working towards. How
53:05
do we begin to incorporate this so that in any of the convenience Granted there's
53:10
this major conveniing in the United Nations now, however, the United Nations is
53:16
only one entity that is not the entity for our liberation, unification and social
53:22
governance, especially as sovereign people of indigenous ancestral African limits. Right, it
53:30
also knows that the real work is going to happen when people leave from Geneva
53:36
on tomorrow. Well, now already there and tomorrow, right, because what's
53:40
going to start to take places at the end of these convenings. For example,
53:45
there are a number of them, there are a number of recommendations.
53:50
They always tend to have a culminating activity of their outcomes, you know,
53:55
and you know this lets us know how brilliant we are, as you said
54:00
earlier, because there's going to be the adoption of the preliminary conclusions and recommendations
54:06
from this third session, just like they had them from the first, just
54:09
like they had them from the second. Right, and the intention in this
54:13
particular one the chair of the Permanent Forum for People of African Descent, doctor
54:17
June Sumer out of Saint Lucia. You know, she will be culminating a
54:22
lot of this information and she's been very supported, very instrumental to ensuring that
54:28
the Caribbean representation, the Caribbean America's let me be very clear, So the
54:32
Caribbean Aisles, Central America, what people like to call Latin America, which
54:37
is South America, and all of the spaces that they're in connected with our
54:43
brothers and sisters out of the forty eight contiguous US as well as Canada.
54:46
Right, there's a large set of delegations that are in Geneva bringing these particular
54:54
points and restoring truth to power in a variety of ways. But particularly when
55:00
you see leaders like the Vice President of Columbia, her Excellency Nancia Marquez,
55:08
at these convenings on these preliminary conclusions and recommendations based on her track record of
55:15
what she does on the ground. What she does on the ground is just
55:22
instrumental in regard to some of the other persons that are going to be on
55:27
these convenings and offering content. And we have a large many brothers and sisters
55:31
that we all know that we know they do this work all the time,
55:37
and they're there offering that commentary, offering those solutions, offering those action actionable
55:43
deliverables, and most important, focusing on the healing element, the reconnection element,
55:51
and the importance of us pulling all of this ancestral original indigenous native energy
56:00
so that we can ascend so we don't have to do this type of a
56:04
convening for another century or millennium. Right, that's the whole idea. That's
56:10
the whole idea. So with that being said, I am so grateful to
56:15
have you join us. We'll have to do this again, pleasure, you
56:22
know, please please please please provide an email for persons that would like to
56:27
learn a little bit more about the sanco Fier community, a con cosmology and
56:31
so forth. Please in the chat to put it in the chat and then
56:37
we can read that out as well. Yes, if you put it in
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the chat, that will help us tremendously, you know, because it's important
56:44
for our sisters and brothers to know that there are ways. If you would
56:46
like to offer some support in that regard, we would be very, very
56:50
appreciative, because I think it's important for persons to know that that is what's
56:53
taking place, and I think that it's also an opportunity for persons to learn
56:59
about the various communities that do exist, and that way they can they can
57:06
be a part of that solution. A lot of times people just don't know
57:09
that this exists and so they don't engage. So I'm really grateful that we're
57:14
able to provide because I know that I have the one that sank Kofi A
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twenty one is that the one twenty one email got okay right, it's already
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been put up on the chat beautiful, beautiful right, and that way people
57:28
can get more information and it's been a joint of privileged spirit systemic in mind.
57:36
I'm grateful, grateful to all the listeners grateful for the opportunity to say
57:40
some things. You know, and we'll all need to be saying some things.
57:49
Yeah, that's that's all part of the healing. That's why we keep
57:51
saying We're going to keep doing what we do with some purpose and keep ourselves
57:55
guided until our next broadcast. Remember, culture heals, human land is our
58:00
foundation is spiritual harmony unifies us. So do your part to be engaged in
58:07
building in new legacy. You've been listening here that speaks with your host,
58:14
Queen Mother, doctor Ginzera, and our illustrious guests. Not a copiate,
58:19
So keep your purpose reading for an effect. I want to read have a
58:34
purpose, and all you do just make show that show purpose. Have a
58:40
purpose in this here life song, Your life aful, live a purpose every
58:49
day so we can live. I have a purpose, and all you do
58:57
just make show all lies like it's truth. Every time we walk on the
59:16
streets, we see all the children crying, every time we see our dad.
59:23
It seems like people are lying. Everywhere that we see on this earth
59:30
is school.