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BASIC BLAQUE AFTER DARK 12/1/24| SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST · DA CREW Podcast

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Speaker 1: Think, Think, Hey, everybody, welcome back to Basic Black after Dark.
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Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to introduce you tonight to Shane the Jenkins,
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Speaker 2: a first time self published author, Distinguished Author's Guild winner,
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Speaker 2: and the inspiring mind behind her premiere book, The Prettiest Woman.
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Speaker 2: Rooted in the timeless wisdom of one Peter three and three,
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Speaker 2: Shane's book reminds us of all that true beauty starts
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Speaker 2: from within. Shanna's journey to becoming an author begun unexpectedly
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Speaker 2: during the season of personal transformation that turned her darkest
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Speaker 2: moments into a triumphant light. Her book is more than
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Speaker 2: just a story. It's a movement, a movement for women
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Speaker 2: who are determined to rise, stronger, walking and purpose and
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Speaker 2: believe in that God given potential. Beyond her work as
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Speaker 2: an author, Shane is also interior designer, philanthropists, mother, and
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Speaker 2: self proclaimed love of all things Jesus. Tonight will dive
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Speaker 2: into her journey, her purpose, and the impact she hopes
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Speaker 2: The Prettiest Woman will have on women everywhere. Let's give
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Speaker 2: Shane a warm welcome to Basic Black after Dark. Hello, Shana,
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Speaker 2: she's probably having a little bit of technical difficulties. We're
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Speaker 2: in two different areas, so she's probably having some difficulties.
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Speaker 2: But like I mentioned, she is an award winner of
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Speaker 2: the DAG Awards, and that is a distinguished award, and
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Speaker 2: not many have that kind of success being a first
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Speaker 2: time author. And for her to have come from being
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Speaker 2: a first time author and walking in and snatching that award, yes,
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Speaker 2: I said snatching snatching that award, it was well deserved.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to dive into her story about the
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Speaker 2: Prettiest Woman and learn more about her journey throughout. So
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Speaker 2: she's having some difficulty, she's leading the message, No I
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Speaker 2: cannot hear you. She may have to go out and
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Speaker 2: then come back, and then you know how technology is.
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Speaker 2: You have to go out and you have to come
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Speaker 2: back in. That's why I like man made things. We
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Speaker 2: do it ourselves. So this way we don't have to
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Speaker 2: be doing anything any technology or anything else of old school.
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Speaker 2: I'm even where you can still deliver a message by
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Speaker 2: a horse, if I have to go back that far.
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Speaker 2: But we've moved beyond all of that. So we do
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Speaker 2: have the post office, but now we've moved on to
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Speaker 2: Internet and emails and a whole bunch of other things.
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Speaker 3: But to get to her story.
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Speaker 2: It's just simply amazing that this young lady was able
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Speaker 2: to write this book and to bring it to Fruition
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Speaker 2: and just to share it with everybody. So this is
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Speaker 2: something that I can't wait for her to share, to
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Speaker 2: share this journey, Shane. Are you able to get in
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Speaker 2: and to join us now?
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Speaker 4: H Okay, there we go. I'm sorry about that. I
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Speaker 4: can't hear me.
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Speaker 2: Still saying that she's offline. I know you, I hear you.
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Speaker 2: You might have to unmute your mike.
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Speaker 5: If unmuted.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's talking, but she's not all right. Well, I
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Speaker 3: can't hear her at all.
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Speaker 5: I can hear you.
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Speaker 4: All.
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Speaker 3: I see her her thing going, but I just don't
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Speaker 3: I don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't hear her at all. H you heard the
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Speaker 2: stay offline. So I'm gonna send her a message to
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Speaker 2: the chat and that can she hear me? K And
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Speaker 2: we may have to have this interview through chat because
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Speaker 2: I can still ask you questions and you can post
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Speaker 2: it in the chat and I'll respond to our listeners
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Speaker 2: and our audience in that way until we can get
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Speaker 2: this cleared up. But that would be okay with you, Shana.
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Speaker 2: But I can't hear her I can't hear her at all,
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Speaker 2: she said, and she can hear and see me. I
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Speaker 2: can't see her and I can't hear her. Oh, maybe
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Speaker 2: it's me. Maybe I need to go out and come
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Speaker 2: back in. So I'll go out. Forgive me everyone, I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna go out and I'm gonna come back in.
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Speaker 4: I can hear you can hear me.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: To becoming an author begun unexpectedly during the season of
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Speaker 2: personal transformation, Yes, that seemed to have turned your darkest
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Speaker 2: moments into triumphant light. You mentioned that becoming an author
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Speaker 2: wasn't part of your original plan. Can you share more
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Speaker 2: about what led you to this unexpected path?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely. First of all, thank you for having me on
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Speaker 4: the show.
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Speaker 6: I'm really excited to be here and just really get
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Speaker 6: a chance to tell my story. And so, yes, I
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Speaker 6: did mention becoming an author was something that I stumbled upon.
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Speaker 6: I probably didn't know, but God knows everything. The dark
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Speaker 6: season I was going through. I in hindsight, I'm looking back,
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Speaker 6: I'm like I probably had launched myself into entrepreneurship too soon,
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Speaker 6: and I was just I was working for a commission
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Speaker 6: based company at the time. And while I was at
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Speaker 6: that company, I was trying leveraged their clients to like
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Speaker 6: build my business and have my own client, and it
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Speaker 6: came to a point where God was like, Okay, which
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Speaker 6: way are you going to go? So I felt like,
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm trying to use this job to build
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Speaker 6: a business.
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Speaker 4: But God was telling me to go one way.
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Speaker 6: And so it got to a place where I felt
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Speaker 6: like I was just kind of losing it.
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Speaker 4: I was like in a season of confusion. I felt like.
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Speaker 6: Money was coming in my hands and going out the window,
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Speaker 6: and I just had to really I started losing. In
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Speaker 6: addition to taking a leave of absence from my job,
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Speaker 6: my life were getting cut off. My water was on
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Speaker 6: the way off, my car was being repossessed, and I
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Speaker 6: had no money for anything. And so I really just
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Speaker 6: had to sit down and, you know, talk to guy
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Speaker 6: and just be like, Okay, God, like, I know that
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Speaker 6: you've called me to.
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Speaker 4: Do certain things.
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Speaker 6: I know that you know my journey is an entrepreneurship,
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Speaker 6: but maybe it's something I'm not doing right because you
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Speaker 6: said the blessings of the Lord make it rich and.
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Speaker 4: Add no sorrow. So why am I broke?
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Speaker 6: Why am I sitting here you know, just really trying
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Speaker 6: to figure out life and put things back together. And
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Speaker 6: I just I it was like two forty two on
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Speaker 6: November second.
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Speaker 4: I don't think I know for shore. At two forty
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Speaker 4: two a m.
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Speaker 6: On November second, when I watched them pull my child
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Speaker 6: the driveway, I was literally sitting in my lib room
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Speaker 6: like okay, God, like, now what you know.
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Speaker 4: What do we do?
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Speaker 6: You know, I didn't really want to be in the
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Speaker 6: season where you know, I had the call parents or
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Speaker 6: family or friends to help me out.
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Speaker 4: I really wanted to get to a place.
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Speaker 6: Where I asked God to get me out of the
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Speaker 6: situation that I was in. And so as I was
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Speaker 6: sitting there and just kind of praying, I asked.
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Speaker 4: Him, you know, what are we going to do? Now?
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Speaker 4: What are you going to do? And he said, write
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Speaker 4: the book?
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Speaker 6: And it was something that has been in my heart
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Speaker 6: for a while, but I didn't I wasn't really sure
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Speaker 6: if that was my tab because I knew I wasn't
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Speaker 6: a writer. And I was asking him like, okay, so
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Speaker 6: what does that mean write the book? Where do I
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Speaker 6: get the material? And then he started reminding me of
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Speaker 6: like all the blogs that I had written, and you know,
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Speaker 6: just kind of putting them together to really tell the
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Speaker 6: story that when I put them together, like, oh, like,
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Speaker 6: I guess this really does tell the story of my life,
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Speaker 6: like the journal prompts that I was writing about And
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Speaker 6: next I know, I get an email about a self
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Speaker 6: publishing workshop, and next thing you know, I'm an author,
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Speaker 6: an award.
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Speaker 2: Win Yes, yes, yes, he is definitely a day award
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Speaker 2: winning author. But he's not gonna just put you through
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Speaker 2: it without pulling you through it. At the same time,
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Speaker 2: we have some people here La, Tanya, Shanat, and Farren
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us tonight. But right
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Speaker 2: and during one of the darkest seasons of your life
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Speaker 2: must have been. We here that it was challenging, and
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Speaker 2: we know that it inspired you to keep going during
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Speaker 2: that time. The Prettiest Woman is rooted in the message
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Speaker 2: that true beauty starts within. How does this thing play
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Speaker 2: out in your own story and in the book? Well, so,
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Speaker 2: very great question.
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Speaker 6: It makes me grateful that a lot of the circumstances
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Speaker 6: that I encounter, even though it hurt me to not retaliate,
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Speaker 6: not to get angry, to not get better, like it
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Speaker 6: really helped me just to be grateful about who God
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Speaker 6: fraided me to be you know, somebody who pride ourselves
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Speaker 6: on moving.
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Speaker 4: Forward in kindness, you know. And that's not to say
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Speaker 4: that I was.
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Speaker 6: Kind all the time or you know, like I never
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Speaker 6: had an attitude like I just went through the dark
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Speaker 6: seasons like all perky. But it really just helped me maintain,
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Speaker 6: you know, my character and who He created me to be.
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Speaker 6: I think that I found out that the beauty within
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Speaker 6: myself were those characteristics, you know, the fact that I
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Speaker 6: do really aspire to treat people, you know, how they
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Speaker 6: how I want to be treated, or you know, just
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Speaker 6: really represent him well. And so there were plenty of
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Speaker 6: times that I wanted to fight back naturally, but it
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Speaker 6: was scripture that gave me confidence that you know, you
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Speaker 6: don't really have to you know, Bence's mindset, the Lord
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Speaker 6: I will repay, I will fight your battle. So really
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Speaker 6: all you have to learn to be sealed, trust me,
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Speaker 6: and then move forward. And so really relying on that
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Speaker 6: kind of helped me decided, Okay, you know, I am okay,
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Speaker 6: you know, uh, there are things of people that are
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Speaker 6: dealing with themselves, and I can go forward and be happy.
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Speaker 6: And like of course I said, I got to meet
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Speaker 6: great people and doors were opening for me. And I
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Speaker 6: can only imagine had I been angry and my time
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Speaker 6: focusing on those trials or those circumstances, like I probably
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Speaker 6: wouldn't be where I am today. I would be still
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Speaker 6: somewhere trying to fight a battle that he told me
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Speaker 6: he already won.
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Speaker 2: So right, So, you described in your book The Prettiest
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Speaker 2: Woman as a collective story for all women who face
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Speaker 2: life's challenges. How do you hope readers will collect or
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Speaker 2: connect with this message? How your biggest challenge in self publishing?
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Speaker 6: So my first well, what I hope that people will
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Speaker 6: receive from my book.
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Speaker 4: Is to basically to persevere, you know, just just keep going.
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Speaker 6: Really understand that the things that you went through are
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Speaker 6: not happening to.
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Speaker 4: You, but they're happening for you.
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Speaker 6: And like I said, like, if you don't focus on
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Speaker 6: those circumstances, if you don't spend your time, you know,
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Speaker 6: sitting around wondering like what was me? Why is this
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Speaker 6: happening to me? Then you know, you too can become
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Speaker 6: you know, the prettiest woman. So I tell people all
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Speaker 6: the time, the prettiest woman is not somebody who is
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Speaker 6: beautiful on the outside the world that we live in today,
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Speaker 6: glorifies or beauty, you know, but who are you? You know,
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Speaker 6: who are you? Are you being the person that God
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Speaker 6: created to be? Are you operating in good character? And
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Speaker 6: like being a representative in a role model?
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Speaker 4: So that's really.
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Speaker 2: A first time author. As a first time author, what
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Speaker 2: was your biggest challenge during your self publishing?
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Speaker 6: So my biggest challenge during self publishing was believing that
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Speaker 6: I was not convincing myself that this was something that
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Speaker 6: I was supposed to be doing, that this was something
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Speaker 6: that God really wanted me to do and not just
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Speaker 6: another bright idea that I had come up with. There
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Speaker 6: were a lot of moments I was like, Shane, a girl,
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Speaker 6: you're not a writer, Like what are you doing?
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Speaker 4: You know, really just.
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Speaker 6: Trying to talk myself out of moving forward with the project.
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Speaker 6: But I had to realize that the blessing was going
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Speaker 6: to come from the obedience of me, right like even
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Speaker 6: I would rather have written the book and then realized
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Speaker 6: that wasn't what God told me to do than not
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Speaker 6: write the book, and then realize I was in disobedience,
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Speaker 6: you know, So just really trying to convince myself that God,
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Speaker 6: you have.
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Speaker 2: Some congratulations here from Chenette and from Fairing, congratulations towards
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Speaker 2: winning author. What advice would you what advice would you
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Speaker 2: give to first time authors? Now hearing what you're saying,
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Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to believe that your first time author,
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Speaker 2: But what advice would you give to someone who is
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Speaker 2: the first time author?
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Speaker 6: I would say, stop waiting on perfection and just do it.
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Speaker 6: You know, the blessing is in the obedience. The longer
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Speaker 6: you have something in your hands, the longer you sit
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Speaker 6: around PARTIICU it like you're never going to move forward
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Speaker 6: with the project. You're going to sit around and you know,
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Speaker 6: just really be trying to you know, change this ordot
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Speaker 6: this or what if this and what if I said this?
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Speaker 6: And it's the blessing is not in the fact that
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Speaker 6: you're writing the book. The blessing is being obedient to
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Speaker 6: what God told you to do. And so one scripture
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Speaker 6: that my pastor always says, he says, one man plans,
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Speaker 6: another one waters, but God gives the increase, but he
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Speaker 6: can't give you increase if you're holding on to it.
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Speaker 4: So just put it out there and figure out the
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Speaker 4: rest later.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 4: That's kind of that's how I operate, Like we'll figure
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Speaker 4: out let's.
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Speaker 2: Your inspiration and purpose. You mentioned your daughter's passion for
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Speaker 2: rating as an inspiration. How does her creativity influence your work?
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Speaker 6: Her creatives? Hear her creativity. It energized me. Now it
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Speaker 6: gives me a reason to be going, keep going. I
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Speaker 6: believe that we feed off of each other. So when
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Speaker 6: I see her and I'm noticing that she's picking up
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Speaker 6: on things but I'm doing, it makes me keep going.
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Speaker 6: You know, there are days that I just want to
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Speaker 6: come home and lay around and watch TV. But if
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Speaker 6: I do that, then she'll get complacent and her crap
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Speaker 6: and her gifts, and so her watching me keeps me going.
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Speaker 6: And then she doesn't even know, but like me, watching
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Speaker 6: her makes me keep going. So we really just feed
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Speaker 6: off each other's energy.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier that you intended a self published and
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Speaker 2: workshop that gave you the confidence to move forward. What
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Speaker 2: role has mentorship and community played in your journey?
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Speaker 6: Yes, definitely, so shout out to Natalie Murphy, romance author
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Speaker 6: four time on War Winning.
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Speaker 4: She is the one who helped me to move to.
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Speaker 6: Workshop by attended to helped me publish the book, and
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Speaker 6: the role that she played and a few other mentors
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Speaker 6: played is just really watching them because I know I
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Speaker 6: have people rooting for me. I don't want to let
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Speaker 6: them down. You know, I don't want to let myself down.
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Speaker 6: But I never want to look back and be like,
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Speaker 6: you know, hear somebody say, oh, you know what wasted talent?
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Speaker 4: Or you know, like we really believed in her.
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Speaker 6: She really had great feels that she never put out there,
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Speaker 6: so they just I think it's like a level of accountability.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 6: If I know that I have people rooting for me,
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Speaker 6: it motivates me to get up and keep going.
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Speaker 2: Chanette says, that's me right now. So Shannette, get out
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Speaker 2: there and write that book. Don't let nothing hold you back.
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Speaker 2: Just keep it moving. And even if you're not a
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Speaker 2: first time author, you're gonna feel that way every time
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Speaker 2: you write your book.
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Speaker 3: You're going to feel should I put this one out?
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Speaker 3: Is this what the people want?
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Speaker 2: You're gonna have so many questions about everything, and if
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Speaker 2: you keep questioning yourself, Shannette, you're never going to write
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Speaker 2: that book.
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Speaker 4: You're never going to.
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Speaker 3: Get it out of the drawer.
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Speaker 2: Because I'm quite sure that's probably where's said or either
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Speaker 2: on the shelf cause I still got mind stopped or
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Speaker 2: stop making the book ends, put it out there, tell
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Speaker 2: share this with people, because your story is going to
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Speaker 2: help somebody. I can tell you that your story is
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Speaker 2: going to help somebody. Many women feel they must be
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Speaker 2: perfect to create or share their work. See I'm telling you,
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Speaker 2: how does the prettiest women address that mindset?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So, for just to go back to the last
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Speaker 6: point that you made, So a lot of times we
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Speaker 6: don't do things or we think that we're supposed to
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Speaker 6: be doing stuff for us, The work that God or
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Speaker 6: just that guy has given up, they're not for us,
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Speaker 6: They're for other people. So you know, it might be
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Speaker 6: hard for us to overcome that imposter syndrome. But the
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Speaker 6: book is probably not for you in the first place.
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Speaker 6: It's going to build your confidence, but it is for
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Speaker 6: somebody else. So just kind of touching off of that.
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Speaker 6: But as far as you know, feel like you have
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Speaker 6: to be per to share your work, I would tell
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Speaker 6: them to first ask yourself what is perfection? And by
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Speaker 6: whose standard are you measured? I think that perfection is
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Speaker 6: an unrealistic goal. I think that it's us in our mindset,
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Speaker 6: you know, just trying to overthink, you know whatever, trying
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Speaker 6: to hold us back. But then also wondering like who's
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Speaker 6: gonna like it? But it's also it's like you know
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Speaker 6: who really cares? You know, not say who really cares? Too,
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Speaker 6: Like you want people to like your book, you want
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Speaker 6: people to appreciate your gifts, but at the end of
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Speaker 6: the day, it's it's more so about just really doing
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Speaker 6: what you're supposed to do. And so for the prettiest woman,
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Speaker 6: if focuses on bringing out what's on the inside to
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Speaker 6: the outside, and nobody knows what's incidy.
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Speaker 3: But that I'm sorry h thing.
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Speaker 2: And with it out there, they're telling you, they're giving
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Speaker 2: it right over the place. Just get it out that
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Speaker 2: that's the only way people can be blessed. And you
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Speaker 2: see Jane the didn't she got it out there. Hey
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Speaker 2: she knocked it out the park because she won an
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Speaker 2: award for it. So beyond the book, you wear many hats, author,
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Speaker 2: interior designer, philanthropist and mother, how many balances, all while
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Speaker 2: staying true to yourself.
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Speaker 4: Trying to figure it all out.
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Speaker 6: I'm in a place right now where I'm trying to
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Speaker 6: really understand what structure looks like. A lot of people
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Speaker 6: don't know this, So the cats off the bag, But
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Speaker 6: I recently resigned from my full time job, and I'm
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Speaker 6: really just trying to get into a place where I
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Speaker 6: keep it balanced. But what I understand that what helps
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Speaker 6: me keep me focused and whether it sounds cliche or phony,
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Speaker 6: like you know, my prayer and my worship life. So
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Speaker 6: some days, most days, I get up in the morning
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Speaker 6: between five ten and five forty and I really put
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Speaker 6: on worship music and I just ask guy, like, what
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Speaker 6: are we doing today? What are you supposed to be doing?
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Speaker 6: You know, I can have the twelve things that I
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Speaker 6: want to accomplish a guy like what's important to you?
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Speaker 6: Because I really want to make sure that I stay
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Speaker 6: in his will doing because I don't want to.
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Speaker 4: Fall off again.
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Speaker 6: You know, it really hurt me or almost broke me
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Speaker 6: when I was going through like the things that I
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Speaker 6: was going through. So to not go back, I just
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Speaker 6: really invite God into my day.
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Speaker 4: And that's that's the truth that.
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Speaker 2: So what projects are you working on now and and
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Speaker 2: how do they tie into your overall purpose?
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Speaker 6: So I'm currently working on a journal it's called Butterflies
22:18
Speaker 6: Are Meant to Fly And it's more so still focusing
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Speaker 6: on that interviewed that you know, bringing out what's inside
22:25
Speaker 6: of you to the outside. You know, a lot of
22:27
Speaker 6: times we don't move, we don't do things, but we're
22:29
Speaker 6: like in this box or in this jar, and it's like, no,
22:31
Speaker 6: you're not meant to be kept in the jar.
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Speaker 4: You're meant to fly.
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Speaker 6: I also have a collaboration project with one of my
22:37
Speaker 6: mentors and a few other women, and I really want
22:41
Speaker 6: to write another book, but I don't have the words
22:43
Speaker 6: for it yet, so still just kind of wait and
22:45
Speaker 6: see what that looks like.
22:46
Speaker 4: I know what I want to write about, but I
22:47
Speaker 4: need the words.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned on creative writing and creativity you mentioned starting
22:54
Speaker 2: with a blog writing for a mentorship program, what was it?
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Speaker 3: What was it like?
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Speaker 2: Position, and from short form blogs to write in the
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Speaker 2: entire book, because that is a big transition.
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Speaker 6: It was actually a lot easier because I'm wordy and
23:10
Speaker 6: I realized I really like to talk. So when I
23:11
Speaker 6: was writing my blogs, like, there were a lot of
23:13
Speaker 6: times I would have to scale back to detail of
23:15
Speaker 6: what I was talking about because like a page or two.
23:20
Speaker 6: So when I decided to publish a book, like, okay,
23:22
Speaker 6: now I really get to get into the details of
23:24
Speaker 6: the nitty gritty of what I wanted to say in
23:26
Speaker 6: the first play without having to feel it back.
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Speaker 2: Wow, So how do you approach storytelling to make it
23:32
Speaker 2: relatable and empowering for women.
23:34
Speaker 3: In similar seasons of life?
23:38
Speaker 6: So I don't know if it's relatable or not, but
23:40
Speaker 6: I was just having a conversation with the brand. I
23:42
Speaker 6: use a lot of Bible scriptures one because that's.
23:44
Speaker 4: What I know.
23:45
Speaker 6: Like I used to use like movies and things, but
23:47
Speaker 6: there are so many scriptures and women in the Word
23:49
Speaker 6: of God that really dealt with what we're dealing with,
23:53
Speaker 6: just on a difference. You know, it was BC or whenever,
23:56
Speaker 6: you know, old school time, and so I just really
23:59
Speaker 6: try to tell woman, you know, like, look, this is
24:02
Speaker 6: everybody is. This is not You're not the first person
24:04
Speaker 6: be going through this. You know, they went through it
24:05
Speaker 6: in the Bible, your parents went through it, grandparents whoever.
24:08
Speaker 6: So us this, you know, pay attention, get the lessons learned,
24:13
Speaker 6: you know, look and see you know what you can
24:14
Speaker 6: learn from the stories that I've been written before you
24:16
Speaker 6: and use that and tweak it and make it your own,
24:18
Speaker 6: because reality, we're all going through the same thing, just
24:21
Speaker 6: different faces to it.
24:22
Speaker 4: If that makes sense.
24:26
Speaker 2: So it does, it does so in that note where
24:28
Speaker 2: any specific chapters or stories in the Prettiest Women particularly
24:31
Speaker 2: difficult or emotional terrain.
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Speaker 6: Yes, Actually the middle of my book, chapter three, four,
24:37
Speaker 6: and five were the hardest. Chapter three, I kind of
24:41
Speaker 6: talked a little bit about the situation with my son
24:43
Speaker 6: and their dad.
24:45
Speaker 4: My kid's dad.
24:46
Speaker 6: It was a big custody battle where he wanted my
24:48
Speaker 6: son to go with him and live with him, and
24:50
Speaker 6: I didn't really want him to.
24:51
Speaker 4: As a mother, I just.
24:54
Speaker 6: I couldn't wrap my mind around the start of having
24:56
Speaker 6: to give up my son. So I basically I started
24:59
Speaker 6: realizing there's so many women who have lost their children,
25:02
Speaker 6: or you know, we look at Abraham have the Psycrifatice
25:05
Speaker 6: sacrifice his son. So I just kind of I was like, well,
25:08
Speaker 6: you know, they did it, I can do it again.
25:10
Speaker 4: That whole obedience thing. Chapter four was hard for me.
25:14
Speaker 6: It was I'm a big hopeless romantic at heart, and
25:17
Speaker 6: it was really about this guy that had rejected me,
25:20
Speaker 6: and I had to learn to not let that break me.
25:23
Speaker 4: But that's really like what birth the Prettiest Woman.
25:26
Speaker 6: And then chapter five was hard because it's kind of
25:28
Speaker 6: like the season that I'm still in, you know, it's
25:30
Speaker 6: called vehicles, and I'm talking about the different vehicles that
25:33
Speaker 6: God used to get us from point eight to point
25:35
Speaker 6: B the launches into our purpose.
25:37
Speaker 4: And so I'm still kind of figuring.
25:38
Speaker 6: It out, like I have a better idea from when
25:40
Speaker 6: I broke the book a year ago, but just so
25:42
Speaker 6: still trying to figure it out. So they're just like
25:44
Speaker 6: stories that I don't know if I haven't end to yet,
25:47
Speaker 6: But there were seasons that I would had enough information
25:50
Speaker 6: to talk about to share with somebody else.
25:53
Speaker 2: So so it sounds like that your faith influenced the
25:55
Speaker 2: message of the Prettiest Woman.
26:00
Speaker 3: What does walk in your purpose?
26:02
Speaker 2: And how do you see others doing the same through
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Speaker 2: your book's message?
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Speaker 6: So walking in My Purpose to me means the moment
26:09
Speaker 6: you realize you're doing exactly what God created you to do,
26:12
Speaker 6: it's like that light bulb that goes off, like, oh.
26:14
Speaker 4: Like I get it.
26:15
Speaker 6: I get why I went through that, I get why
26:17
Speaker 6: I'm going through this. I understand you know, like you
26:19
Speaker 6: know where I'm supposed to be going next. And so
26:22
Speaker 6: often I say the world is messed up because people
26:24
Speaker 6: don't really realize, like I said earlier, that we are
26:26
Speaker 6: not here for ourselves.
26:28
Speaker 4: You know, we are.
26:29
Speaker 6: Doing things, but we're really creating a blueprint for the
26:31
Speaker 6: people that come behind us. And so that's the message
26:36
Speaker 6: that I want people to understand. You know, the book
26:39
Speaker 6: The Prettiest Woman, I so my original cover have my
26:41
Speaker 6: face on a God clearly told me take my face
26:44
Speaker 6: off of it because it wasn't the first book helped me.
26:46
Speaker 6: It was like my tangible evidence that I was worthy
26:48
Speaker 6: or that I can create something. But he had me
26:51
Speaker 6: put a silhouette of a woman so more people can
26:53
Speaker 6: see themselves and resonate with the message that we all
26:55
Speaker 6: go through things, but you know it's for a purpose.
26:59
Speaker 6: It's for somebody else, so to be inspired to leave
27:02
Speaker 6: with grouf and if you have kids or you know,
27:04
Speaker 6: I love working with children.
27:05
Speaker 4: So we're not here for us.
27:09
Speaker 6: And that's really when you realize that moment and you're
27:11
Speaker 6: in whatever that things looks like for you.
27:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Patries, thanks for joining us. So Shana, you've
27:20
Speaker 2: rooted your book in one ped three and three. How
27:23
Speaker 2: was that scripture shape you understanding of beauty and self work?
27:27
Speaker 6: So I say, it's a lot of pretty ugly people
27:30
Speaker 6: out in the world. So you know, the world is
27:32
Speaker 6: full of glitz and glam. You know, everybody want to
27:35
Speaker 6: look pretty on the outside.
27:36
Speaker 4: We get our hair.
27:37
Speaker 6: Done, lashes, makeup, But what do you care about what
27:41
Speaker 6: looks like what you look.
27:42
Speaker 4: Like on the inside. So you know, you could be
27:44
Speaker 4: the prettiest person in the world or the most handsome
27:46
Speaker 4: man in the world.
27:47
Speaker 6: But if you rude, if you arrogant, if you mean
27:49
Speaker 6: to people like, nobody really cared. And so I really
27:52
Speaker 6: tried to make sure that I stay focused on not
27:55
Speaker 6: glitter or glaming myself up. But you know that I
27:58
Speaker 6: was kind of people even though I was breaking, you know,
28:01
Speaker 6: I was. My heart was breaking, my life felt like
28:03
Speaker 6: it was falling apart, but I knew God had better
28:06
Speaker 6: for me. So just really trying to represent people. And
28:09
Speaker 6: I had a friend tell me the other day, she said, girl,
28:10
Speaker 6: I had no idea.
28:12
Speaker 4: And it's not that I.
28:13
Speaker 6: Was trying to hide anything, but it's like, but you
28:14
Speaker 6: weren't supposed to. You know, you're gonna pity my life.
28:18
Speaker 6: So I walk around looking sad, You're not going to
28:20
Speaker 6: want to follow on my footsteps. And I'm trying to
28:22
Speaker 6: tell you that the thing that you're going through are
28:24
Speaker 6: for a purpose.
28:25
Speaker 4: So don't let it make you better and be rude
28:30
Speaker 4: and mean, like, let it make you better?
28:33
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Yeah, so you mentioned that writing became your
28:38
Speaker 2: light during the dark season. How did writing help you heal?
28:42
Speaker 2: And what advice would you get to other spaces semular
28:44
Speaker 2: challenges because that was like your writing journey was a
28:50
Speaker 2: healing journey as well.
28:53
Speaker 4: I agree.
28:54
Speaker 6: I feel like it is or it was. I feel
28:56
Speaker 6: like there are some places in parts of me that
28:57
Speaker 6: are still here, but writing helped me. It's to heal
29:00
Speaker 6: by giving me something to look forward through too. That
29:02
Speaker 6: was mine, you know, like I have my children, and
29:05
Speaker 6: I have my my you know, interior design business or
29:08
Speaker 6: you know, things like that, but writing actually gave me.
29:11
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm quoted up here, you know my book,
29:13
Speaker 6: like anytime that I'm struggling or can you see it
29:16
Speaker 6: anytime that I'm struggling or having a hard moment, like
29:19
Speaker 6: I can go back to a chapter and be like, okay, Shane,
29:21
Speaker 6: and we made it through, Like I could be my
29:23
Speaker 6: best cheerleader. You made it through and you have ten
29:26
Speaker 6: and it was a war winning and people liked it
29:28
Speaker 6: and you know, it opened doors. You're you're meeting more
29:30
Speaker 6: women and more mentors who are being touched by your
29:33
Speaker 6: story or who want to have you come and speak.
29:35
Speaker 4: To different events and things like that.
29:37
Speaker 6: So that was really big and it gave me something
29:40
Speaker 6: to look forward to.
29:43
Speaker 3: You.
29:43
Speaker 2: You have somebody in here saying that you're giving away
29:45
Speaker 2: so many different nuggets. And you had mentioned earlier excuse
29:49
Speaker 2: me about you getting up so early in the morning
29:52
Speaker 2: and praying, and they're saying that every day at five
29:55
Speaker 2: am East to time, they have prayer and intercession.
30:00
Speaker 3: So that's excuse me. I'm so sorry.
30:04
Speaker 2: That's coming from the Crew Network Aspiring Authors magazine, and
30:09
Speaker 2: that's our producer who is up at five am while
30:12
Speaker 2: I'm turning over for maybe the second or third time
30:15
Speaker 2: that there's intercession. So someone she's saying also that, okay,
30:23
Speaker 2: come on now. She said that part, and it's just
30:26
Speaker 2: like every part that you've been saying. She said, every
30:29
Speaker 2: chance she gets be the change that we desired to see.
30:39
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. Something got me. Barent is saying that
30:41
Speaker 2: she loves your transparency. It's definitely going to read so
30:45
Speaker 2: many and it has that I'm not just coughughing, it's
30:49
Speaker 2: just choking me up and everything else along with it.
30:52
Speaker 2: Every author pieces moments of doubt. Was there ever a
30:55
Speaker 2: time that you wanted to give up on the book?
30:57
Speaker 2: And if so, what pushed you to keep going?
31:01
Speaker 6: So, when we didn't figure out if my chapter three
31:05
Speaker 6: or my chapter five made since or not, you know,
31:07
Speaker 6: like I knew what I was talking about, but for
31:09
Speaker 6: those who didn't really know the detail I said, and
31:11
Speaker 6: wondered a lot, like did they would they understand the
31:13
Speaker 6: point that I was trying to convey. I didn't want
31:16
Speaker 6: it to be a messy book, so I didn't put
31:18
Speaker 6: the details or the ugly details in there. I wanted
31:20
Speaker 6: it to focus on, you know, the positive things. And
31:24
Speaker 6: I think sometimes with focusing on just the positive, it
31:27
Speaker 6: feels incomplete, because like we want people to know our
31:31
Speaker 6: feelings and our details in our story.
31:32
Speaker 4: Like I wasn't trying to bash.
31:33
Speaker 6: Anybody or say anybody, you know, I really just wanted
31:37
Speaker 6: to inspire people with it. But what pushed me to
31:39
Speaker 6: keep going was I was asking myself, but what if
31:42
Speaker 6: they do get it? What if they do understand exactly
31:45
Speaker 6: what you're talking about and they don't have those negative
31:48
Speaker 6: details to sew seeds of negativity in their heads?
31:51
Speaker 4: You know?
31:52
Speaker 6: So I'm like all right, Well, we're gonna do it,
31:53
Speaker 6: and we're gonna figure out, you know, if they're resonated.
31:56
Speaker 4: With people, if they liked it. We just gonna figure
31:59
Speaker 4: it out. We go.
32:01
Speaker 2: It feels like your book was also a learning journey.
32:04
Speaker 2: What was the most surprising thing you learned about yourself
32:07
Speaker 2: throughout the writing and self publishing journey.
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Speaker 6: I think just that I actually have something to say,
32:14
Speaker 6: or that people are really listening or curious. I know
32:17
Speaker 6: a lot of times people say like family and friends
32:19
Speaker 6: don't support you. Well, I have a lot of family
32:22
Speaker 6: and friends that did support me, and with their support
32:25
Speaker 6: and buying both copies of my book or you know,
32:27
Speaker 6: just sharing the messages, like it really was like dang,
32:30
Speaker 6: you know, people really do you know, mess with me
32:32
Speaker 6: or want to hear what I have to say. And
32:33
Speaker 6: so that was my you know, I think so I've
32:38
Speaker 6: had like a lot of experience from childhood up until
32:40
Speaker 6: now that you don't really realize it's a form of trauma,
32:42
Speaker 6: but like things that made me feel like the words
32:44
Speaker 6: that I had to say were insignificant, you know, and so.
32:47
Speaker 4: I would shy. I would always move to the back.
32:49
Speaker 6: Or you know, if you see me out at the
32:52
Speaker 6: award cere of my friends is like I might have
32:54
Speaker 6: won something elaborate like on the outside, but I'm going
32:56
Speaker 6: to always shot to the back because I don't really
32:58
Speaker 6: like what you've seen. But that's because I've been told
33:00
Speaker 6: a lot of my life that what I have to
33:02
Speaker 6: say is not important. And then I realized that that's
33:04
Speaker 6: a lot like people do care what I'm talking about,
33:07
Speaker 6: and so that's really what pushes me to keep going.
33:11
Speaker 6: You know, I'm like, I'm so excited to be in
33:12
Speaker 6: a place where i can tell my story and you know,
33:16
Speaker 6: I hope my prayer that it does and inspire somebody.
33:20
Speaker 2: Well, what I would say is The Prettiest Woman was
33:24
Speaker 2: written by the prettiest woman. Don't that you have nothing
33:28
Speaker 2: to say because you're making an impact as it is.
33:32
Speaker 2: You know, on legacy, you've mentioned leaving an important and
33:36
Speaker 2: an imprint on today's society for tomorrow. What do you
33:40
Speaker 2: hope your legacy will be as an author and as
33:42
Speaker 2: a woman of faith.
33:45
Speaker 6: I'm hoping that my legacy and I kept sitting like
33:47
Speaker 6: making sure this is what I really want to say.
33:49
Speaker 6: I really want my legacy to be that my life
33:52
Speaker 6: is tangible evidence that God is real. I want to bring,
33:58
Speaker 6: you know, and so I want to bring people back
34:00
Speaker 6: to the guy back in the day where you can
34:02
Speaker 6: be like, you know, the guy that part of the
34:04
Speaker 6: Red Sea or the guy that healed this person.
34:06
Speaker 4: You know.
34:06
Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of times we put God
34:08
Speaker 6: on a surface level or keep him in a box
34:10
Speaker 6: and think like, oh, because I wrote this down and
34:13
Speaker 6: I went out and I worked hard at this, I
34:15
Speaker 6: was able to manifest that business. And it's like, but
34:18
Speaker 6: sometimes a God don't even really want to do all
34:20
Speaker 6: of that work. There is work that has to be done.
34:23
Speaker 6: But like if you leave room for him to really
34:25
Speaker 6: you know, plant the seeds or just like sow seed
34:28
Speaker 6: into you of what to do next, like how to
34:30
Speaker 6: order yourself, Like that's when you really learn like who
34:32
Speaker 6: God really is, Like He's so much bigger than the
34:34
Speaker 6: box that we.
34:35
Speaker 4: Put him in. And that's what I want people to understand.
34:37
Speaker 4: You know.
34:40
Speaker 3: Well, I hope people were listening to that.
34:43
Speaker 2: Shana Chanette says that you have inspired her so much. See,
34:47
Speaker 2: you do have something to say because.
34:49
Speaker 4: People are list to what they're saying.
34:52
Speaker 2: H With that being said, how is the feedback from
34:55
Speaker 2: readers of the Prettiest Woman impacted you so far.
34:59
Speaker 6: You know, Black Diamond, I don't really ask I have
35:02
Speaker 6: not asked for reviews. I have not asked for anything.
35:07
Speaker 6: So I appreciate the feedback that everybody's given me today,
35:11
Speaker 6: but I don't you know, you don't want to know it.
35:12
Speaker 6: I don't want to get discouraged. I think there's a
35:15
Speaker 6: little bit of fear there, you know, like what if
35:16
Speaker 6: somebody tells me, you know, I don't like it, and
35:19
Speaker 6: I'm still trying to convince myself or believe myself.
35:21
Speaker 4: That it is real. So if y'all hear, I mean,
35:25
Speaker 4: give me some reviews would be nice. Don't don't. Don't
35:28
Speaker 4: put water on my pa.
35:28
Speaker 3: That's how you grown.
35:30
Speaker 2: That's how you grow because you're trying to figure out
35:33
Speaker 2: what about that person you did not reach because it
35:37
Speaker 2: was something that they may have missed.
35:40
Speaker 3: So don't be afraid to look at the feedback. You know.
35:43
Speaker 3: My daughter just stood here and she had.
35:45
Speaker 2: Mentioned something about the podcast, and she says, how does
35:49
Speaker 2: it go?
35:49
Speaker 3: I said, I never watched my own podcast. Once it's over,
35:52
Speaker 3: it's over. She said, you don't watch it.
35:54
Speaker 2: I said, no, it's not that I don't care about
35:56
Speaker 2: it about anyone, but it.
35:58
Speaker 3: Was already said and it was done.
35:59
Speaker 2: I can't take anything back, but I know that I can,
36:02
Speaker 2: I can learn from it. But I just keep pushing.
36:05
Speaker 2: But there's people that's looking to you, and they're going
36:08
Speaker 2: to continue to expect more from you. Even some naysayers.
36:12
Speaker 2: They may be they says at that time, because that's
36:15
Speaker 2: where they're at. And that's why I say, I always
36:17
Speaker 2: try to meet people where they're at, yea, And maybe
36:20
Speaker 2: they're not where you're at yet, but read those because
36:24
Speaker 2: maybe you are the one that can bring them for
36:26
Speaker 2: because that might be the job that God wants you
36:29
Speaker 2: to do, but you're not seeing it because you're not
36:31
Speaker 2: looking back at it.
36:33
Speaker 3: So look back at it.
36:34
Speaker 4: I would appreciate that.
36:36
Speaker 6: And Gena even said that Gena Gassing the visionary behind
36:40
Speaker 6: the Disting which office guild. She said a lot of
36:42
Speaker 6: times like if people.
36:43
Speaker 4: Don't win the award, they never asked her why.
36:46
Speaker 6: And when she said, I was like, you know that
36:49
Speaker 6: you should ask why, because like you feel, it's all
36:51
Speaker 6: about it as part of the growth, you know.
36:53
Speaker 4: So yes, I appreciate that.
36:55
Speaker 2: Just improvement people give out a Nugga's book, I alould
36:58
Speaker 2: tell my children that if is free. And when it
37:01
Speaker 2: comes knocking on my door, I'm putting it in the
37:03
Speaker 2: headlock and I'm not letting it go. That's right to
37:06
Speaker 2: say when it's gonna come back around against So yeah,
37:09
Speaker 2: if you see me this, you don't see nobody there
37:11
Speaker 2: because advice just knocked on my door and I'm gonna
37:14
Speaker 2: take it.
37:14
Speaker 3: Tell me take it. I'm gonna take it.
37:16
Speaker 2: So what message do you want your children to take?
37:18
Speaker 2: A story and the example that you set as their mother.
37:23
Speaker 6: It's something that I think we've all heard a lot
37:25
Speaker 6: of times. What doesn't kill you literally makes you stronger.
37:29
Speaker 6: Keep going. Eliminate the voices. Look as I'm just saying,
37:33
Speaker 6: like I don't want to hear the voice that's telling
37:34
Speaker 6: me my good, my book is good?
37:36
Speaker 4: Were bad? Eliminate the voices.
37:38
Speaker 6: Get God, Get connected to God and figure out what
37:41
Speaker 6: your purpose is, and.
37:42
Speaker 4: You know, just keep moving forward.
37:45
Speaker 6: I really want people to see like, no matter what,
37:47
Speaker 6: like my daughter didn't see a lot, but my son
37:49
Speaker 6: has seen in life. He's fourteen now and despite everything
37:52
Speaker 6: that he may have seen.
37:53
Speaker 4: Like I still persevered.
37:55
Speaker 6: I still kept going Like life is going to knock
37:56
Speaker 6: you down a hundred times, but keep going until you
37:59
Speaker 6: just literally can't go no more. And when you can't
38:01
Speaker 6: go no more, like that's the end of your rope.
38:02
Speaker 6: It's time for somebody else to.
38:03
Speaker 4: Pick up the torch.
38:06
Speaker 2: Now, this is a young lady that's said here and
38:09
Speaker 2: say that she don't have anything to say, she don't
38:12
Speaker 2: have much to say, she don't think anybody's listening, and
38:15
Speaker 2: that this is her first book, and she came out swinging.
38:19
Speaker 2: What's next for miss Shana.
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Speaker 6: So mentioned the journal that I'm hoping to get out
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Speaker 6: by the end of this year, the collaboration project with
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Speaker 6: the Mentor. I have a youth ministry that I'm waiting
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Speaker 6: to launch. So it's kind of like a branch from
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Speaker 6: the earlier ministry that I was working with the Mentor
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Speaker 6: with it was called She's All That. This one is
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Speaker 6: called the Prettiest Little Women Ministry, and it's really it's
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Speaker 6: been off of my book, but it's more so portant
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Speaker 6: to younger girls ages seven through eighteen, and you know,
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Speaker 6: just really trying to get them to start on the inside,
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Speaker 6: you know, TikTok and everything else, and how you in
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Speaker 6: the mirror trying to get glamorified. And it was like,
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Speaker 6: I just want people to be you know, nice and
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Speaker 6: kind and pure and genuine and authentic and compassionate.
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Speaker 4: You know, So that's really those are the next couple
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Speaker 4: of things I'm working on right now.
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Speaker 2: It sounds like a little mentoring program for.
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Speaker 3: These little women.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be the prettiest woman, because these these these
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Speaker 2: these young ladies, these little girls are a little mini means,
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Speaker 2: whether my daughter or not, they need that because they
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Speaker 2: don't feel that and sometimes they're not told that. So
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Speaker 2: I'm hoping and I know that your book is going
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Speaker 2: to inspire them. And the book is not just for
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Speaker 2: these children. Parents pick up this book. If anyone listening
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Speaker 2: who may feel stuck on certain about pursuing their dreams,
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Speaker 2: what would you like them to take away from your story?
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Speaker 6: So again it sounds, you know, so simple, but failing
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Speaker 6: is only failure if you don't learn or grow from it.
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Speaker 4: You know, the book is for you know.
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Speaker 6: I was grateful that Gina and the Thing which offer
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Speaker 6: they play the book into.
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Speaker 4: The young adult category because I really have.
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Speaker 6: A heart to catch girls or young women before they
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Speaker 6: get out into the.
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Speaker 4: World and attain it by it.
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Speaker 6: But like you said, for an older women too, you know,
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Speaker 6: those who still have the courage to still believe. Go
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Speaker 6: for it, you know, pursue whatever it is that guy.
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Speaker 6: Don't stop letting life hold you back, no excuses. Let
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Speaker 6: the bitterness go there is. It is never too late
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Speaker 6: to keep growing, to keep blossoming, So that would be
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Speaker 6: my only failure if you don't learn or grow from it.
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Speaker 2: You heard it here, You heard it from Miss Shana.
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Speaker 2: Thank you Shana for sharing incredible journey and inspiring us
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Speaker 2: to find beauty and purpose within ourselves. If you haven't already,
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Speaker 2: grabbed your copy of The Prettiest Woman on Amazon or
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Speaker 2: Bonds and Nobles, or get in contact with her, It's
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Speaker 2: a book you won't want to miss. Two I will listening.
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Speaker 2: Remember that the Prettiest Woman isn't defined by perfection, but
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Speaker 2: by her perseverance, strength, and or authenticity. Join us on Friday,
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Speaker 2: December sixth. We'll be here speaking with Peculiar Princess Stephanie Johnson,
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Speaker 2: Rice on Basic Black, after Doc, After Eight, after Dog
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Speaker 2: Until next time, Keep rising, thriving, and never stop walking
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Speaker 2: in your purpose. Good Night, everybody, and thank you