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Few goals to celebrate in Serie A Matchday 7 - Calcio Carousel - Ep. 283 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: We have so many goals to talk about this week
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  Speaker 1: in the City that we might right right out of
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  Speaker 1: time here on the couch of guys Johnny Nicholas. Follow
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  Speaker 1: the couch, guys, guys, how's going?
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  Speaker 2: Johnny is not too good, I don't think, but me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not too bad. The couple lista Cineva right, we're
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  Speaker 2: at the top right now. But Johnny had a rough weekend,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And all sports, I've had a rough weekend. Let's just
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  Speaker 3: uh sides of Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna yeah, Drake May is the answer, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, honestly I've seen enough. Welcome back Tom Brady
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  Speaker 3: two point.
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  Speaker 4: You might be able to.
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  Speaker 1: Put Drake May as a striker for Juventus and need
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  Speaker 1: to score more goals than the three headed donkeys that
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  Speaker 1: we have now. Yeah, but yeah, very interesting city. I
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  Speaker 1: match date? How many? How many draws were there?
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  Speaker 3: Full?
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  Speaker 2: Three?
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  Speaker 1: Five, five, five five draws two one nothing games? Back
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  Speaker 1: you got five draws and two in one two one game?
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah five zero's sorry, four zero zero draws, which
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  Speaker 1: is just insane, especially the start off the week coming
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  Speaker 1: back from the international break and then they and then
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  Speaker 1: let chase swallow pieces of Verona bo zero zero, Atalanta
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  Speaker 1: Lazio zero zero and and general Parmas there was zero
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  Speaker 1: with a beautiful save by the goaltender Nixuzuki from Parma right.
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  Speaker 4: At the end. Guys, a legend Suzuki.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Adri caught that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard, I heard.
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  Speaker 1: The hops.
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  Speaker 4: The hops are five and two. All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: these guys are talking.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, listen. The highest scoring game was the Melan
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  Speaker 1: Fiorentino game two to one. We might as well start
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  Speaker 1: with that because three goals in that one. Uh, Melan, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, flies right into first place in the city
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  Speaker 1: at table goals two goals from Layao coming back down
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  Speaker 1: one nothing after a goal from Ghost ends obviously scoring
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  Speaker 1: that eighty ninth minute penalty. But guys, it Melan is
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  Speaker 1: interesting because look, both me and Adriano predicted Melan to
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  Speaker 1: win the scudetto to be in the season. I know
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  Speaker 1: it's early, and for the first few weeks it did
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  Speaker 1: look a bit rough, but they've kind of just continued
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  Speaker 1: climbing up the standings, you know, so far after eight
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  Speaker 1: match days, and you know, in a way it's also
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  Speaker 1: inter Anapoli kind of following themselves obviously Napolis as they
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  Speaker 1: lost this weekend against Reno. But for Melan it's seems
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  Speaker 1: like they're getting groove under a lagree and now with
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  Speaker 1: Layo scoring again, it right now it's it's the hottest
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  Speaker 1: team and it reminds me of Napoly from last season
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  Speaker 1: where they don't have any their competition to worry about
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  Speaker 1: until they play in the Cope tally which they already
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  Speaker 1: have but no Champions League.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it helps when you're when you're playing once a week, right, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was the biggest key point that we made,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in the pre uh the preseason or the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of the season prediction show that we had. It
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  Speaker 2: seemed to be like, you know, I didn't want it
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  Speaker 2: kind of felt like it almost a carbon copy of
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  Speaker 2: like you said, Nick, the Knapoli season last last year
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  Speaker 2: and you know on the quante and but listen, it helps,
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  Speaker 2: right and when you have a when you have a manager,
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  Speaker 2: you know a la you know Antonio Conte, Max Allegri,
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  Speaker 2: where you know these guys can can get the most
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  Speaker 2: out of their team for one game a week and
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  Speaker 2: if you can't get up for one game a week.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, there's there's a problem within the squad.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Alleg has been able to kind of solidify that.
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  Speaker 2: From you on so far defensively they look a lot
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  Speaker 2: better offensively as well. I would say getting a guy
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  Speaker 2: like Rafael al back on the score sheet, especially home,
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  Speaker 2: you know, doing in front of your home, home, faithful
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  Speaker 2: home crowd.
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  Speaker 4: I think is huge.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the first goals he scored at home
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  Speaker 2: since I think it was like the end of the
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  Speaker 2: season last year. If I'm a mistaken, so, uh it's
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  Speaker 2: been it's been a while. Uh, it's it's it's much
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  Speaker 2: much needed. And listen, this was a weekend where all
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  Speaker 2: the direct competition around Milan were you know, the results
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  Speaker 2: were mixed, obviously, I think the bigger result was the
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  Speaker 2: inter one. If I'm not mistaken, they had they had
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  Speaker 2: picked up maximum points, so you know, the the Knopolies
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  Speaker 2: of the world, you know they fumble, uh you know
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  Speaker 2: Roma as well, so.
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  Speaker 4: You know it was there for the taking. And it
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  Speaker 4: would have seemed like, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Playing on one of the later later games of the
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  Speaker 2: weekend and kind of already seen the results by other
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  Speaker 2: other teams around you you would think, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 2: here we go, we're gonna we're gonna go and uh,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna go fumble this this result. But luckily for
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  Speaker 2: me fans, it wasn't to be. They managed to crawl
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  Speaker 2: their way back into the match. And you know, the
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  Speaker 2: the goal that was scored by ghost ends. You know,
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  Speaker 2: just I mean, people are gonna say a bit of
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  Speaker 2: defensive error. Suld have caught that kind of bangs off
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  Speaker 2: of Gabya. Ghosts is the only one in the area.
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  Speaker 2: He slots it in, So listen, I don't know, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's one of those things where it's it's abound to happen,
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  Speaker 2: those types of those types of goals, especially when you're
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  Speaker 2: when you're so close in the area there. So what
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  Speaker 2: I liked is the response because again in seasons past,
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  Speaker 2: especially last season, under the two managers that we had,
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  Speaker 2: I think we would have, it would have taken a
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  Speaker 2: lot to fight and get those three points when it
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  Speaker 2: mattered most to go up top of the table by
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  Speaker 2: a point against again your direct rivals. So I like
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  Speaker 2: the I like the response. I like that Leo is
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  Speaker 2: got involved the shots from outside the box. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we don't usually see goals like that, uh for me Land,
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  Speaker 2: but you know it kind of just rolling back the
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  Speaker 2: seasons for layout and in that moment particularly, and the
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  Speaker 2: penalty I know was was one that you know, people
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  Speaker 2: kind of had mixed the mixed opinions about soft not soft,
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't have been called should have been called putt easy?
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing, you know, kind of even putting
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  Speaker 2: yourself in the position to potentially get a.
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  Speaker 4: Penalty called on you. So listen, I was kind of
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  Speaker 4: a bit on the fence.
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  Speaker 2: I do think it, you know, anywhere else on the
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  Speaker 2: pitch it's probably a foul, you know, I know in
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  Speaker 2: the box is it's a bit of you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: riskier to kind of do an action like that where
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  Speaker 2: where he kind of try to you know, put his
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  Speaker 2: hand out into the face area, kind of trying to
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  Speaker 2: pull him back.
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  Speaker 4: I know it was soft, but at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day, you'll take that as a as a team.
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  Speaker 2: You know, these these these bounces don't always go your way,
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  Speaker 2: and when they do, you have to take them and capitalize.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we saw the poolstage miss on the
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  Speaker 2: on the peak k last time around. He wasn't there
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  Speaker 2: obviously due to injury. Who would step up? You saw
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  Speaker 2: for Finally take the ball, and we're like, okay, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe for Final is going to take it.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if he was the next man up.
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought a guy like Motte would have
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  Speaker 2: would have stepped up and taken it. But it seems
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  Speaker 2: like a kind of has his his PK shooters, you know,
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  Speaker 2: ready to go. And again for Finally had the ball
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  Speaker 2: in his hands and it was looking to be him,
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  Speaker 2: but he kind of I don't know if you try
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  Speaker 2: to try to hold onto the ball as long as
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  Speaker 2: possible to finally give it to Layo. So there's no
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  Speaker 2: like real distractions, but it was what it was. Leo
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  Speaker 2: steps up and you know, luckily the hair goes there
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  Speaker 2: goes the wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Way, because I think that it was.
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  Speaker 2: A good penalty, don't get me wrong, like he fooled
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  Speaker 2: the hair, but it could have been saved if you know,
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  Speaker 2: if the hair was you know, guessing the right way.
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  Speaker 4: I think there was a chance to save the save
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  Speaker 4: the shots.
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  Speaker 2: So uh, we get away with the one if you will,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, we take home to three points, go
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  Speaker 2: top of the table, and like you said, Nick, it's
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  Speaker 2: these building, these building block of results that you know,
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  Speaker 2: me one hopefully can continue to do because like we
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  Speaker 2: said in the uh you know, the the opening show
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  Speaker 2: of this of the season. Uh, these these matches that
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  Speaker 2: you again wake up for one game a week, you
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  Speaker 2: have to capitalize because this is your window of opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to get that second start to to you know, fight
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  Speaker 2: with uh inter to try to you know, uh continue
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  Speaker 2: on this this back and forth of.
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  Speaker 4: Schoodetti and obviously throwing up in the mix there.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I again as a whole, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I I enjoyed the match. I think it was a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a stressful one, and seeing all the other
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  Speaker 2: results that you know you mentioned Nick coming after the
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  Speaker 2: international break, is like, okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 4: This is this is gonna be a snooze fest of
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  Speaker 4: the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: It was I think we were saying it earlier, not
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  Speaker 2: uh nine goals before the Monday game, but it was
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  Speaker 2: I think eleven total goals scored this weekend. So it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the best advertisement for SETIA this weekend in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the goals goal department, but.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, uh Milan Mian was able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And when you got top players on your team rolling
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  Speaker 2: on all Cylinders despite the injuries, because there was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of injuries that uh, you know that Melon had
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  Speaker 2: to face, you know, losing a guy like Puisic Rabio.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously Stup was in there, you know, Rubin left his
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  Speaker 2: cheek and kum Ku like these guys were, We're all
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  Speaker 2: banged up. They weren't ready to go. Uh and Melon
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  Speaker 2: still managed to find the way with the team that
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  Speaker 2: they were able to field. So when your top players
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  Speaker 2: can step up, because Motherge has, since he's put on
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  Speaker 2: the Melan shirt, has been absolutely class. Like we already
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  Speaker 2: knew he was class, but it's just it's incredible to
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  Speaker 2: watch on a on a more weekly basis with like
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: kind of a magnifying glass on his game because we
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  Speaker 2: knew his game is a superior level just watching him
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  Speaker 2: in Europe and stuff and wherever he's been. But when
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: he's on your team and you're kind of watching week
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  Speaker 2: and week out, kind of like de Bruyn, and you
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  Speaker 2: kind of pick up on these things that man, you
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  Speaker 2: just sit back and say, Wow, it's just a joy
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  Speaker 2: to watch these types of players in our league, especially
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  Speaker 2: on our team. So you know, obviously Mothers stepped up.
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  Speaker 2: I think of the cheap filling in. Finally again some
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: minutes with Catuso in the stands.
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  Speaker 4: Was nice to see. Hopefully he gets a call up
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  Speaker 4: come November.
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  Speaker 2: But Bartasagi as well, stepping in left back, left wing
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  Speaker 2: back type of role. He's been an incredible, incredible, uh
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  Speaker 2: you know, filling guy, kind of sub when when called upon.
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  Speaker 4: And he's still so young. We're still nineteen years old.
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  Speaker 2: So another young Italian, Uh that can hopefully progress and
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  Speaker 2: like I said, layout when he steps up and uh,
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  Speaker 2: he kind of takes uh takes the team and puts
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: it on his back. Uh you know the the you
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  Speaker 2: know the destination is only up and you know that
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  Speaker 2: the results are endless.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm hoping that he can continue to do.
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  Speaker 2: That, hopefully roll back the years to to his MVP
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  Speaker 2: season and uh maybe me one will be on the
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  Speaker 2: way to another school that too.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's one game at a time, manage
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  Speaker 4: the expectations.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a trap game on on Friday against Pisa,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll see what happens there.
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  Speaker 1: First versus twentything in that game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's a true city trap game. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Friday night football, Friday Night Lights whatever you want to
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  Speaker 2: call it. It's it's it's one of those games on
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  Speaker 2: the calendar that you always kind of you kind of
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  Speaker 2: look past because you know it's it's it's one of
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  Speaker 2: those games where you know, all the momentum is in
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  Speaker 2: your favor and then they throw in a last pace,
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  Speaker 2: last place pisa on your plate and see how you
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  Speaker 2: handle it. But I'm hopeful that you know, some of
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  Speaker 2: the players that we kind of were banged up can
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  Speaker 2: kind of get back into the the fold that I
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: know it's gonna be a little bit of a while
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  Speaker 2: for Post and Wo, but the likes of RLC and
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  Speaker 2: and hun Ku and and potentially I think even as
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  Speaker 2: Stup can get back in the in the fold, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we'll see, we'll see what Frid holds well.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: Even Madrich said it best, you know, like in regards
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  Speaker 3: to Lel, like this was the type of player that
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  Speaker 3: he was, that he's been waiting for the talent of
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  Speaker 3: Leo to finally come out and you know, be the
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  Speaker 3: guy that he wants to target, you know, and be
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  Speaker 3: able to finish up whatever he sets up for him.
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  Speaker 3: So Modrich having high praise for Leo, just confirming that
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  Speaker 3: what a lot of us have said many many times
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  Speaker 3: throughout the years, is like, especially back in the days
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  Speaker 3: when we had the whole like right wing debate of
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  Speaker 3: kave Leal of like who would you rather have?
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  Speaker 4: And stuff?
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  Speaker 3: And I was always saying, Leo has probably got the
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  Speaker 3: like in terms of talent, can probably be the better
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  Speaker 3: talent player, even though Keat Skela is like phenomenally talented
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  Speaker 3: as the years gone by. But it would be stupid
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  Speaker 3: to say to have said that Leo didn't have that
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  Speaker 3: ginormous talent ginormous wow. Uh and Modriich confirming it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like and a player like Madrich. I don't think anybody
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  Speaker 3: would contest opinion about things right when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: to footy. So and hey, my Fantauro was really appreciative of.
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  Speaker 3: I still lost by one total like goal in the
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  Speaker 3: Fanta points. But uh, but that was because my my
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  Speaker 3: nobody decided nobody nobody did anything this weekend. Blovich couldn't
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  Speaker 3: score anything. Thanks Nick, I'm just messing around.
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  Speaker 1: But don't believe me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but just that my opponent had Nico Paz.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I that's why we lost.
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  Speaker 4: One other thing.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to add there talking about scoring goals. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we have we have a striker obviously in our hands,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Santiya Manez, who I think you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: I've I've heard all you know, other other content creators
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  Speaker 2: kind of speak about him.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if it'd be me one a week with podcast,
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  Speaker 4: you know that me on podcast or.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever one's out there. And you know, I love the hustle,
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  Speaker 2: I love the work rates. I think he just needs
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  Speaker 2: to be able to score, uh score, and just in
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  Speaker 2: general because he's he's not really scoring at our rate
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  Speaker 2: where we would want to see.
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  Speaker 4: Our our number nine do. So, you know, I like
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  Speaker 4: because he's he's drying, he's drawing the penalties, but he's
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  Speaker 4: not scoring.
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  Speaker 2: So if you can kind of do a bit of both,
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  Speaker 2: I would be greatly appreciated from you know, signed all
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  Speaker 2: Mealan fans. But it's it's these things that I'm hopeful for.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, you know, because we see it even across
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  Speaker 2: the league. You know, some of these some of these
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  Speaker 2: strikers that are just are just not you know, not
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  Speaker 2: getting the ball rolling in the goal department and it's
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: it's it's a weird one. You know, you scratch your
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  Speaker 2: head with a guy like Santimnez who was scoring elsewhere.
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  Speaker 4: He comes to Italy. It's a bit of a rough time.
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  Speaker 2: We saw a guy like Jonathan David score you know,
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  Speaker 2: in numbers right in France and you know, you come
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  Speaker 2: to Italy and it's a different, different story. So hopefully
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  Speaker 2: these types of you know, these steps, the strikers, you know,
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  Speaker 2: get on the score sheet and because we you know,
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  Speaker 2: for the respective teams they need it. You know, you
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: can defend all you want, but you need to score
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  Speaker 2: as well to hopefully win the game.
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  Speaker 3: So I like to offer a counterpoint to that, like
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  Speaker 3: I think it depends on the manager for being real,
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  Speaker 3: because for example, look at Lukaku. Mind you, some players
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  Speaker 3: can't adapt, some players can't, but Lukaku, right, even though
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  Speaker 3: when he came from the prem to city, he was
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  Speaker 3: still able to score you know, fifteen plus twenty plus goals.
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  Speaker 3: You know, look at the Kettlaire for example. It depends
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  Speaker 3: on the manager. Like the Cutlaire with Milan wasn't able
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: to do anything, but the kittalt Atalanta is a different story.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think is that the player is that
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  Speaker 4: you think that's the manager.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's hard to tell. But I think there's because
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: that's why the kittlare would probably be an instance of
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  Speaker 3: manager you know, will probably be or maybe like in
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: terms of fit Lukaku, I think it would also be
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  Speaker 3: manager too. I think as I'm discussing this, I feel
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: like it's I lean more and more towards managers managerial
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  Speaker 3: style styles. I feel like like, if the player is
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: playing under the right manager, despite being in a different league,
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  Speaker 3: it would still be able to find a way to
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  Speaker 3: thrive or work in in that league, Whereas like it's hard,
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  Speaker 3: like pure talent like obviously will always shine through no
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  Speaker 3: matter what. Like some players are just you know, enormously
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  Speaker 3: talented that no matter which manager they have, they can
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: still find a way to score. But in terms of
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: the above average player or like the the the great striker, right,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I think it really has to do with how the
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: manager uses that striker. I don't like, I like, I
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think sometimes the players are able
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: to just do it on their own they.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Need I think it's a balance of things, to be honest,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I think I think there's a lot of factors that
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: go into it. Because I Gotti Menez and listening I
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: want him to score. I wanted to get going. He
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I know he can provide that, you know, in that department.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: But you know, you're talking about different managers. Unfortunately he's
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: already went through three managers right in the span of
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the span of two years.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: But then in that piece would probably be the player.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: It's probably the player. I don't know, or the system
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: or what's around him. He can't there's I find there's
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: multiple factors. But like another now that we're on the topic,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and I kind of wanted to bring it up later
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: when we would speak about anopoly, but we're on the
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: topic now, a guy like Lorenzo Luca, right, Like, this
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: is a player that you know, I know is not
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, obviously not world class, but he's
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: not a terrible player either. He's kind of in that
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you know, decent player arrange and sometimes above average. You know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: he has the measurables for sure, and I think he
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: has some of the talent. But he comes to Napolis
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: and he's kind of shooting blanks, and you know, I
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: saw a lot of fans kind of ripping into him,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and it's like, well, again to your point, Johnny, is
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: it is it the player, Is it the system, is
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: it how he's being used?
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Is it who's around him? Like, in my opinion, for.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: These types of debates, there's a multitude of factors that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I kind of go into it. So and again, like
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I got Jonathan David that Nick has you know, spoke
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: a lot about, right, Like, what's what's the issue with him?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Like why isn't he scoring for all those reasons that
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: we named it's possible. Is it tudor is it him himself?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Is it because of the players around him that are
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: not providing? Like it's it's a tough, you know question
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: to answer him, And.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like context is needed though, Like for example,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: in the case of Lorenzo Luka, right, like he got
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of his goals in Sadia B for uh
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: playing in Sadia Ah. You know, he got some goals
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: and thirty he got like what.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: It was like twelve ten hit double digits last.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Year and like thirty something games, right, so you know
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: for players twenty five and he played in his whole life,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: right like you like obviously the Setia bagals are Sadia B.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: It's a different story, it's different quality and whatnot. But
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: in this case, I would like I don't think Luca.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's bad. I just don't think he's
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the player Conte thought he would be. Like, I don't
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: think Luca is adapting to what Kante wants from him
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: in that system, you know what I'm trying to say,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Like I don't feel like he's the like, like he's
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: not a card, like like nobody's a carbon copy of Lukaku,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: but like Lukaku is the profile of the striker that
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: fits Kante's system. Luca isn't like he thought he was.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: But it seems like as the games are going by,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: it's not turning out to be true. In the case
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: of David, I think it's way too early to make
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: a call that it's it's it's either player or manager,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: because you know, maybe it isn't you know, adapting period
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: for him. Maybe you know, like he's not used to
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: the style of tudor that like way he has to play,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: like sharing a spotlight with another striker in Lavich, you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: like it's, uh, there's for for David. It's still too
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: early to make a call on anything in terms of
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Luca that you could say that probably in this case,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: he's not the player that Conte thought he was and
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: or maybe it's just he's not the player that fit
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the to play that system and he's not able to
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: actually work in that system. So I think it's more
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: towards that. So that's I like, I'll defend Jonathan David
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: a little bit here. I think in his case it's
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: because he's splitting time with with with Dussan. It's a
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: new league, probably.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Just some place.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: It's too much of a small sample size. Whereas Luca
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: if you look back at previous appearance in study at
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: b appearances in sadi Ah, like you have a better
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: sample size of Luca in the league and stuff, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: you could tell that, like like even now in Champions League,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: you know, like he's he just wasn't like he's just
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: not performing. He's just not the guy that we can
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: call upon. I'm not saying it's I'm not saying he
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: has to score every game, but you know he's got
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: one goal in seven appearances for Nopoly, like as a striker,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: which good, you know, nice, good for you, but we
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: need more. Like it's not as if you're you're an
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: attacking mid or like a central mid where it's like
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: you can you can get away with maybe one goal
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: in seven games, because you know you're not getting that
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: many opportunities. But when you're a striker, you need to
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: you need to be that guy that need the pod
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: in a few more. I agree with you're twenty five.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't like, I'm not going to argue that it's
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: in a sense of like being a kid guy the guy.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: So yeah, he's still young. It's twenty five, but you're
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: not a kid either. I think he's also been lowed
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: out to other other European clubs. I just can't recall
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: right now off the top of my head. Let me
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: actually just look it up.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: It was on i AX or anything? Was it i AX?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Was it i AX?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: So I mean, like i AX is not a small club,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it's you've you've played
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: for topier clubs. You need to understand, like if you're
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: having an issue with the pressure playing Monopoly, especially you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: like trying to help a team win a second school
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: at don a row. If it happens, which I don't,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: it's looking more and more likely you need to have
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: that killer instinct but or the capacity of like adapting
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: to everything around you.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So yeah, to the point of Jonathan David. I mean,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the whole team is not scoring right now. It's not Yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it's easy to come in and say, look, obviously we're
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: gonna defend David right as Canadians, but right now all
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: three strikers, including Valvich.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: But you got to you gotta call sp spade though.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: No, they're all there, all of them are bad. But
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: at the same time, the whole team is just not
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: good right now. Look, guys, the last time event to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: scored a goal was on October first in those Champions League.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: That was against Villa Real. Last time they scored a
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: goal in the city was on September twenty seventh, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: that was that was Cabal in the one one dry
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: against Atalanta. They haven't won a game since beating Into
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: four to three. That's seventh straight now without winning a game. Look,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the striker situation, I think it comes down also creativity
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: in the whole team. These for me, between Volvage, David
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and even on Penda, they're two similar players. That why
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: why do we have three of them? Especially the fact
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that they went out and got Appenda after they got David,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: when they got a pen. Thought, okay, maybe they're gonna
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: They're gonna get rid of Vovich. That wasn't plan.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: So I have three them.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I know Penda is a bit different. He's could play
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: more as a winger type of David. David Vovich, they're
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: very similar. There are players they need service. How many
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: times have they say said this, David's not a player
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that's going to create on his own. He needs service
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and right now I hate to say it, but Yielda's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: we need more from Yodas too. He's he's a player
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that you know so far the season, it's fine stats.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's like one goal, three assists in the city,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: one goal, one assist in the Champions League. But the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: teams he scored against at least this season. Okay, he
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: got the one goal against Dorman, he got the one
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: goal against Inter, but other than that, sorry, those are
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: those are his only two goals in this season in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: all cops. We need more from him. Even today he
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: did not look good. There was a couple of dribbles
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: where he lost it easily on in the touch line.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Those are plays that he needs to do better. Saturday
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: or Sunday against Cuomo, he was outplayed by Nico Paz.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Look Nico Plaz his goal. At the moment he got
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the ball in open space, I said, it's over. And
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that's what the type of play we need from Kennanildez.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I know Yieldas is young. I know he has room
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to grow and he's obviously a good player, but I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: think for Juve's attack to do well, he needs to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: take the next jump kind of like how he was
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: playing at the at the beginning of the season. We
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: kind of haven't seen that from him recently. Like I said,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: he hasn't scored since that that Doorman game on September sixteenth,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and that was also that was also the last time
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: he got an assist, so it's been a month since
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: he lost last had a goal contribution. Mind you, in
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that time, Youve hasn't scored, so you know, it's kind
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of related to each other, right, I know he kind
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of I think he had a couple of goals for Turkey,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: but we need we need that yield this for for
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Juve as well.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: And even.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like obviously Sunday's game was was frustrating to say
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the least. You know, I Como, We know Como is
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: a good team right there. I think it's sixth place.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Now in the city, they might be might be higher. Yeah,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: sixth place, tied with Juve. Twelve ves out of it,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: out of the top six right now, Like I said,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: twelve points, three goal, three wins out of seven. They
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: lost their first game of the season on Sunday, followed
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: up by a loss today against Real Madrid. You know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: can't follow them too much for the Real Madrid game,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: but they were the better team in the first half.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They had legitimate chances and they screwed it up and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: every time they missed a chance, I told myself, this
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: is just another every mischance for Youve, is another chance
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: for in Real Madrid to get it back in the game.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. One mistake from Lloyd Kelly
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: lets belling him free and he scores capitalizes. Favich missed
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a chance on a breakaway openda. I don't know what
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: he was doing on that beautiful setup basically on a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: two on two with him and David, and he's kind
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: of just chilling there, like you know, if he wants
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: to tea and biscuits, whatever, he could go ask go
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: to England, ask for it, right, But that was for
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: me it's just that that clinical finishing that they're missing
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: right now. I don't know what can change, because it's
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: not I don't think it's a two door problem. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: don't think it's something you could change right now. You
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: need to go out and get different strikers, even wingers,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: more wingers. I find they don't have enough depth. They
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: are kind of relying on Nilda's and Quinse sal in
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: that regard. Obviously, cost doesn't play much. Ro Mario doesn't
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: play much.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Uh the Grova guy did he does he do anything?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: The guy again, he doesn't play much. Like they really
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: rely on to those two wingers and yields and use
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: sou So maybe they're just tired at this point and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: we're early in the season. Yeah, well, you know, I
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: know that Tudor has been experimenting with the two strikers
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: at least late in games and sat against Cuomo, sat
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: against against Real Madrid. But I think it's something I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: would like to see from the start, because if you're
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: going to implement a new system, let the players get
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: used to it from the start of the games. You
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: can't rely on it twenty minutes to go and you
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: need a goal. So it's it, I think right now
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: with you Bates, it's a whole system. You know, I'm
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: not going to blame one person, but it's frustrating. Like
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I haven't celebrated goal in all month except for October first,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: which is insane.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. The thing do you buy the nick? Do
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you buy the the uh?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: You know, the rumors of wetting goal of Tudor and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: you know he's not gonna eat up on it, Like
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: do you do you put anything into that or is
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that just very reactionary by by Juventini.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I could believe it. Yeah, maybe not this early. But
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: also it's not going to change anything. Let's be honest. Yeah,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: it's just going to be rinse, repeat and then you
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: know what, you know what it's gonna happen. It's gonna
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: be exactly like last season where new coach is gonna
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: come in, gonna have his moves the next summer. Players
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: that we got this summer are gonna go exactly like
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: what happened in the past year.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know they recently signed tu to Or
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to an extension I think through twenty twenty seven or something,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: or twenty twenty eight unless they're like bottom half of
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the table. I honestly wouldn't. I wouldn't do anything right now.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I think you just got to go for it. You
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: got it, just stick with it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Like realistically doesn't make sense either, No, like you financially,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't like a team like you got disrespent last
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: year trying to come out of dire straits in terms
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: of finances, you know, with moving up players, balancing the
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: books and whatnot. To let go of a coach, especially
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: when that you signed to an extension and have to
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: pay them and then pay a new coach, Like financially,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to probably go for one of your
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: academy coaches or somebody who's super cheap, and then that
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: that's basically you event is saying like, let's just hopefully
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: throw a dark blindly at the dark board and hopefully
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: hit a bullseye, which if you're uvent this, I think
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: financially you do not take that risk.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: No, exactly.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also think they were stupid to give
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: him extension because for me personally, he doesn't move the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: needle for me as as a rival, find he doesn't
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: move the needle as a coach. He for me, I
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: don't know, like I personally, I don't think he eats
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: upon it own like I don't think he makes it
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: to Christmas like it's It's one of these things if.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: You want to save I mean, I don't think the
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: season's over obviously not. It's very still, very early.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: But if you want to, if you want to, you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: hopefully kind of you know, move the needle a bit.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: And again I'm not sure who's available current day. I
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: know I saw the Palladino rumors. You see other rumors.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: They're still hoping for day Dane, which I don't think
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: he's coming.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know what you do.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, they were a bit foolish to give
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: him the extension, to put that investment into him, when
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: let's face it, I don't know if he's the long
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: term solution or plan for for for this team. So
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: because again for me, he doesn't move the needle.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: He's not.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: He's not a manager that's gonna that's gonna. I know
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: he played, I know he has the history with Juventus.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I know he I know he knows what it takes
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to win an event. I get all that, But for me,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: managerial wise, it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't wow me
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: as a fan, and I can just imagine being sorry
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: as a rival final I could just imagine if if
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: if I was a true fan.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: And honestly speaking, I like to personally believe that Juventus
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: made an error by letting go of Junetley, Like I
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: think I think Junetlee was the was the guy to
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: really you know, he had a long term vision. He
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: was he is a Juventino through and through. You know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: he was a guy that, like a lot of people
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: were very quick to like criticize when the guy had
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: to make tough decisions to try to eventually get uvent
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: this back to its financial superiority of a club. But
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: you know, with that mutual agreement to think it was
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: like this summer. I forget when it was this summer,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: but it was, you know, like that doesn't help. I
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: think like he was actually a good financial director and
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I know he's the one who gave Tudor the extension,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: but like so, but now you lose the guy who
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: had the project with Tudor, and now Tudor himself is
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: just you know, like I don't have my my my
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: liaison in terms of balance, like getting the players that
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I need knowing the finances of the club and whatnot,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: and you know, trying to find because Juntu Lee, like
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I was there monopoly and I know the Lorentis has
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: a great part in that too, But you can argue
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: that June was also a key factor in helping Napoli
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: become the competitive club that it is today. So I
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: think that, like that's also an underrated thing to look
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: at right now, like or like like like my god,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: under the radar, that's the word I was looking for,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: underrated under the radar factor in this whole discussion, because.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Forget Juneto, they fucked up by getting rid of Marotto.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Never mind, you know.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: If yeah, but that's a long time coming.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Right, but still you want to call a spain of speed.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: They fucked up there they went and go to a rival,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: direct rival. It's it's incredible.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe about the missed the signature LINEH is lazy
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: and I'm.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Kidding, yeah, I don't know.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: He probably signed on the wrong line, that's fair, but
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: he didn't see it. But still you kind of let
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: him walk.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: For me, the mistake was letting go over Legry in
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four straight on, like he he took them
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: through the thick and thin through a period where you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: know they had all those penalties, the points, financial trouble,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and sure he wasn't a legury of old. They weren't
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: gonna win the Scudetto under him. But they're not winning
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the Scudetto now. How much better are they now versus
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty four after winning the Colpettalia
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: zero Probably not in the minus from then, right, And
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: so uh yeah it nice. How many times have I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: said it's with you Vade? Every year it feels one
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: step forward. Yeah, we win the summer Scudetto. Straight up,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: we'll have all these fancy moves whatever, these guys you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: want to play with on FIFA, and then they go
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: out and you go out on the pitch and nothing
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: ever gets done. It's the same. It's Frinton repeat right.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you know this weekend game in thoughtso another test.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Lato has been struggling as well, obviously former former coach
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: with Sadie, So we'll see. I think this is a
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: this is a must win game, straight up. And I
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: know because they play Sunday and then I think on
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Wednesday actually, because there's a midweek games next week. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: think they play, Johnny corrected me last week the Black
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and White Derby pretty much too much winning games. Let's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: be honest, guys, Amy have finished a month strong after
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: scoring one goal all month. But you know, Johnny, I say,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you've wins the summer scudetto. You know, who wins? Who
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: wins the who wins the scudetto? Of excuses mister Anton Conte,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: What a funny guy, man, what a funny guy. What
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: did he What did he say after the Champions League loss?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Uh the PSV?
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Was it six one or six two?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: What did he say that they have too many new
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: players or something?
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's typical Conte. Excuse Look, I'll be real with you.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I did not see the game because I just for context,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: better context to the listeners. I got a post at
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: UH at one of the high schools in Montreal that
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I'm taking over for like until the end of the
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: year as a teacher. So next so I'm basically been
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: spending the whole week just you know, gathering resources for
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: my students and lesson planning and blah blah blah. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: also my day finishes at three o'clock now, so I
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: haven't been able to watch any of the games and
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: you thank god. Yeah, you're right. In the case of Conte,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: this is just Conte being Conte. It's one of his episodes.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: H A six to two loss doesn't have to do
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: with just the players. Uhategically you failed in this game
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: or uh, you know they they caught on because it's
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: not just in Champions League. If like they lost the
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: last we were talking about it right before we started
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: the recording of the show. They've lost three out of
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: their last four games, you know, yes, and the losses
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: where okay, Melan was a tough team, right, so you
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: know that's it's an acceptable loss. PSV is a very
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: respectable team. But that's a six to two loss despite
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: being down a single player. Like four goals came down
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: being down a player and it was at the fifty
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: fifth minute I think it happened, right, So that's just
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: more of an exposure. I feel like that's more of
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: an exposure of your system rather than like the players,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: like too many new players. Melan, you lose what was it?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: One zero they lost to Milan? What was it?
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I don't even remember now, tool I'm.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Looking it up.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Two one, two one. Yeah, you get a legacy basically
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: in the Melan game, you know, it's and now you
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: lose one zero, you know, and like and I was
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: like just a perfect description of the season where it's
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: like Line scores the tying goal, cellbrate celebrates, takes off
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: his shirt. It's all hyped and it's like, oh, by
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the way, offside, what.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Do you think you still get the old card for that?
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah it doesn't.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: It doesn't get retracted, right, that's hilarious. It's stupid you.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Get a card for uh foul for something goal that
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: didn't happen. But I guess regardless, you can't take off
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: your shirt.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even but that rule to that rule too, I'm sorry.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I remember reading why they put that in. I think
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: maybe it was diego for Line or CAVENI you're wine,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you're wine player. I think he took his shirt off
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and it took so long to like get back or something,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: or by the time you put it back it wasn't
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: even on properly it was. I remember reading the story
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: why they put in that rule. But yeah, it is
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: pretty reallylous. It's dumb.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, It's just I don't know, for me, doesn't
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: make sense, but put the quote back up, Nick, you
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: had it up on the screen there. What does it
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: say with so many this this Antonio Conte quoted, right,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: with so many matches played and so many players signed,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, bringing in nine new players was too much.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: We weren't balanced and all. If you were, what do
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: you mean you weren't balanced? You buy it? How many
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: fucking players you have the team? It's enough of the
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: excuses and all.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: It's it's for me again, like Jenny said, it's it's
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: another it's another one of Conte doing Conte right. It's
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: it's it's never enough, it's too much, it's nothing's aligned
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the way he wants it. When he when he loses,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: there's the excuses. When he wins, it's it's the praises
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: on him. Listen, I think Antonio Conte is a great manager.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I don't mind him as a as a cult as
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: a manager, but it's these types of these types of
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: quotes that will forever be pinged on a guy like him.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's it's comical sometimes, I gotta say.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: But if I was a fan like I would not,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to hear this all the time, Like
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: it's enough of the.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Excuses like you cannot lose six too, man down, man up,
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: no men against PSV, I'm sorry, respectful or not, you
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: have to be able to do better.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know if.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It's just the run of phone that not we is
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: on currently because they have been not like you said, Johny,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: not looking the not looking like themselves, you know, losing
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: three of the last four in all competitions, Like it's you.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Know, I know, you lose your your you.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Know your your right hand man in Lukaku early on
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: in the season, and when they work together, it's like
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: bread and butter, right, but or pasta and sugo, right,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: it's they're they're the they need they need each other
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to to win.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: But it's for me, it's you.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: You can't like you, you can't make these excuses. Like
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: if I was a fan, I wouldn't like to take
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: these excuses all the time. So again I think it's
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: it's just potentially a run of form. We know Conte
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: in Europe always seems to struggle, which I honestly don't
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: know why. But what's the real reason he always struggles
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: in Europe Because he's had some decent teams.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: He has a good team currently.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I think we saw on paper, is it on the
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: pitch that they can't get it going, Like I don't know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: it's for me, it's a bit crazy, but whatever the
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: case is. You can now lose six too against PSV
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: in the in the in the Champions League, there's you know,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Dennis Mann scored against you twice like Setia legend, right,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So it's you can't let it happen. And but hopefully
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: they turn the tie for for their sake because you
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: you want to see some good competition at anapoy, just
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: to make things interesting. But uh, it's you know, they
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: got they lost against Tory and know Johnny obviously, like
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you said against uh.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: And it had to be Simeon and that scored against them, right,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: it had to.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Be against all my scores against Aple. This guy is
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: just anti Johnny. It's incredible. It's incredible.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: But listen, I don't know, I don't know what has
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to happen, but it seems like the odent is still obviously.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it's blow.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Up the team butt in time for I know, I
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: know you see some fans online going crazy. I think
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: that's a bit of an over exaggeration.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: But if we want to call.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: A space of spade, like I a woulted to earlier,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: you cannot lose in this fashion. You cannot put out
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: a performance in this fashion and expect your fans and
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: and your and everybody who loves you know, nap to
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: accept that.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It's just it's just not possible if you want to
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: be serious, uh, in your quest of something this season,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: if it be Scudetto aspirations, if it be you know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Champions League progression, if it be Coptali or whatever it is,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: you know, you cannot put out these types of performances
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: and expect everything to be uh, you know, sunshine and rainbows.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: By the way, I just looked it up. The reason
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: why there's the yellow card rule for removing your shirt.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: In December two, Diego Fourlance Scorta goal removed his shirt, uh,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and then couldn't put it back on, so played without
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: a shirt with his shirt in the hand in his.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Hand, because I think I think I remember that. Actually
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: funny enough you say.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: That, because yeah, he couldn't get it on in time,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: so he's running around with a shirt in his hand.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And you'll, funny thing about this you'll you guys will
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: never guess who was in nets for some time den
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that day. Antim I'm not kidding. The guy's name is real.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, he said Nick Suzuki to start
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: off the show. Yeah, like, is this another freaking hockey reference?
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Apparently there was a finished goaltender both for soccer and
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: hockey named Antiamo. No clue if they were related. Apparently,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: if you're born with the name Antimmy, a good good
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: chance you're gonna want to be a gold goaltender. No clue. Sport, Yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah it was it. Roma lost to ter
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: one nothing. Yeah, one of the big matches this week,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: but they' still in the top four. I think, you
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: know overall they stowed to be happy with the start
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: of the season. But yeah, I don't know if you
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: had a chance to watch that Jenny which game?
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Uh no, Like I said, busy way, life has
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: just been kicking my ass. But yeah, yeah, basically from
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: watching highlights, from watching condensed games and whatnot and trying
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: to gather as much info before the show. Uh, this
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: one was just more like like there was just the
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: intersport on their chance. Roma didn't that's basically it they
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: had that one moment where they're able to capitalize on
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: like a hole in the defense and they were able
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: to score the opportunities came, but just lack of finishing
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: is what just really killed them and stuff I don't
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: And the thing is that Roma, even though they're on
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: a good form, you know, trying to because they are
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: trying to push for the top four, this was like
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: probably their first real test that they had to come
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: along because you know, the previous games were against Latsio,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: which was pretty nice, and Filandina which was pretty nice,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: and Verona, which is usually a tough team to beat.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: But if you want to be in the top four,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: you have to beat or do well against the other
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: teams in the top four. Logically speaking, like, I'm not
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: it's not rocket science. So inter is a game that
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: you had circle on your calendar and the first huge
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: test for Gasperini with this squad, and this one was
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: a failure. Now can we say that defensive laps is
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: what caused this loss? Maybe I wouldn't think that. It's
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: like it's not like in the Napoli situation right now
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: where you're like, okay, what the fuck's going on? Like,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: even though it is not time to push the panic
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: button at the Napoli situation, you still start. This is
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: where you start asking questions because, like I said, three
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: losses out of the last four games. However, in a
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Roma situation, situation first lost in about five games. Four games.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: However long ago, the Torino game was now not like
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: like you don't have like it's and it's against inter
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: it's against a strong opponent. So it's a team that
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: you know is gonna be competing for the school that
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: though you're not in any position to compete for the
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: school that though realistically speaking, so you know, it's it's
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: not I wouldn't like here, I'm like, okay, once you're
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: a loss, it sucks. Especially that was a very big game.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I think, uh, it's not one that has like, you know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: irked me in the side. Yet I think, uh, you know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: they tried their best. I don't really have like any
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: performances where I gotta be like, okay, well a lot
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: of players just played horribly. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Like I don't. I don't think there was any player
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: that can nitpick and be like yeah no, that's the
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: reason why we lost it was just you know, props
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: to Bonnie for finding that opening when he did. And
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: then you have Jan so Mad being like an amazing
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: goalie that he was, you know, making some good key
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: saves because the Roman player, like throughout the game, Roman
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: was applying pressure. They tried their best to score. They
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: are playing at home, so they had the crowd behind them.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: But it was just one of those games where it's
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: like you're just you can't buy a goal. It's not
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: gonna happen. You just can't buy a goal. I think
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: that's probably like the best way to describe it. I mean,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: just actually get their expected goals number, because I know
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: that probably like one point something almost two.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: How many how many goal how many goals against do
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: they have? Because I feel like their defense is like
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Lettings fiord to dry a bit sometimes. I don't know,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: against they only have three, they don't have any three Okay,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: never mind.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Then but offensively they only scored seven, So that's that's another.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Thing you have to look at. Okay, never mind.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's that's another thing you have to Yeah,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: expected goals for Roma or one point three five, It
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: was just so man making sure that that that one
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: goal does not happen. That's that's basically it.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: The goal the goal hopping early too right, and.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah to kind of win's defense mode.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: But they kind of you know, sat back a bit.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just but they could they literally caught
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: that one opportunity and almost sleeping they got it. Bonnie
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: got it through near sighted shot, you know, like like
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: almost danger like it was about danger close essentially of
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: a shot. So you know, unless unless Velar has like
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: the right amount of time to prep for it, you know.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: He got even but he got a limit. I think
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: he got an arm on it too.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: It was it was it was just too much power
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: at that close range to do anything about it. Like
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Bonnie struck it well and you put it in like
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: you hit true and it went in. So it is
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: what it is. It's one of those games where it's like, Okay, well,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: let's hope this isn't the game that when you're looking
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: at the end of the season and you find out
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: that you're a point or two away from making top four,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: that you know, like you look back to those games like,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: fuck this game. If we would have scored here, we
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be in this situation. Counting our pennies for top four.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: You know, it's uh, but props the inter. It's inter
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, right, it's uh, they're
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: they're they're they're they're scudetto contenders that the better team
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: is going to be the better team sometimes.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know what another team that can
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: buy a goal you just mentioned Jenny Atlanta loses in
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the last two years, lots of lots of and then
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: slen probably in the Champions League. They're like a perfectly
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: balanced team in the city. A uh, two wins, five draws.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure no other team has five draws in
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the city right now. No, no other team has five draws.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: So they're kind of reminded me of Udine from last
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: year where they had insane, insane amount of draws and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: then in the Champions League they're one, they're one.
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: Oh sorry, they're I lost it. I lost the I
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: lost the standings. I lost the standings too many times.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: Open one with two goals, two goals, five five against.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: So two wins, five draws in said, yeah, two goals.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Five against in the Champions League. But you know what
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: kudos to them is for Champions League because they're seventeenth,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: So at least, unlike youve A that's in twenty fifth,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: they're in a good spot right now. I know there's
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: a lot to be played, and there I thought that
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: they stop to play Chelsea. Chelsea's definitely their toughest opponent.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: They already played PSG. You know, Juve, you know, yes,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna criticize them for being twenty fifth right now
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: in the in the Champions League standings, but they've played
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: the hardest opponents that they've that they're gonna have played.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: They played Dortman, they played Villa Real, they played Madrid.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Now they have the next games against Sporting and then
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Boo Bodo Glimp and then pat Fos, Benfica and Monaco,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: so they do have an easier schedule. But yeah, you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I think if you're you A, you want to be
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: in that top twenty four Alongsid Napoli Ine Atalanta right now.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: So it's a lot of position watching for the Italian
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: teams in the Champions League after three games. I don't
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: know if you guys had anything to say about Atlanta.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they should be selling celebrating seventeenth
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: place in Champions League.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: If I'm honest there, but the Italian teams hasn't do better.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: No, but okay, sure it's fine, but you know I
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: think it's it's it's still not good enough. Like I'm sorry,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Like you know, we had hot when was it last year?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: How many teams do we have, you know advance and
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: we got like no results.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: After that, Like it's it's it's incredible.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I think the Italian teams have
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: to shry for more in my opinion, in Europe, Inter
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: and third interesting third like take I mean, I hate
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: paint me to say, but like as a rival fan,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: but you know, take a pay jet of Inter's book.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: They're smashing opponents.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: You know, four nil, you know against there against was
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: it the Union, Joe was there? Whatever, I promise David's
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: team you know.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Uh, they're they're, they're they're scoring, you know, they they're
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: they're talking about clientel of at the table.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I think both Meal teams have have been doing that
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: in the city and Inter is doing it also in
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: in Champions League, a team that in my opinions, kind
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: of started a bit slow to open the season, but
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: so soy they're getting these results and you know, are
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: maybe kind of going under the radar, nobody's looking at
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, all Kivoo's the manager, and I still
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: don't think Kivo moves the needle kind of like I
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: said with with with Tudor.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: But it's it's.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Something that you know, they're they're getting results when it
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: when it's needed, you know, posposal though and getting getting
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: a goal in.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Champions League is first. It's incredible. This guy is having a.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Hell of a debut showcase, you know in uh, in
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: the big leagues.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: It seems like, you know, he gets his debut free
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: in there. He you know, he scores his first.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Goal, He gets his debut freely, he scores his first goal, UH,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: debuting Champions League scores his first goal.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: Like he's having a hell of a ride. So and
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: so is the team. It seems like so.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: You know, the other Italian teams, you know kind of
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: you would have to take a page out of their book,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: you know, as painful as it is to say, uh,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: you know, inter Unfortunately they're still in there, right, They're
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: still dangerous and they have pieces.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, this this season, I know a lot
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: of people were saying, you know, the old guard, you know,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: these these players are they will they will shot, but
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: you know they're they're kind of getting their second win.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: It seems like this. The win in their sales are
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: still going.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: It seems to be. So we'll see how I won't
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: get lost.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: But currently, if I'm an not the launch stuff, I'm
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: a if I'm a juve, you know, I know they've
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: had some tough matches, like you said, but you're still juve, right,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: you still want to get results in the Champions League.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Usedtill want to be serious. So take a page out
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: of Inter's book, and I think it might do some good.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know it it really, I can't believe I'm
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: saying this being a Mealan fan, but it's sometimes you
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: have to take off your bias hat and call a
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: space a spade and and say what it really is.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: But you know, kudos to what Inter's doing, you know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: especially in Europe.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: And we just need to see progression past the uh
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: this this uh what they call this stage, the league
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: league phase, the league phase right now that the new
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: league phase. We need to see some some action after this.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: We need to see you know, finals and and and
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and winning. We haven't seen an Italian team raise that
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: damn trophy and in uh what fifteen years now, So
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's a long time coming.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: So going on sixteen, Going at sixteen, I mean we
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: did we did just see an Italian team in the final.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we haven't.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: They didn't score though.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: They didn't score, They didn't raise the trophy, they didn't
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: do nothing.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: It was what we've seen it Italian teams recently in
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: the final that also haven't scored.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you looking at? You've scored in their finals.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Don't you remember when Zuki overhead kick, wasn't it?
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: What about the other one? Did they scored?
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: They scored? I think it was Vidal. It was a
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: one one It was one one goal. Okay, well then
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: one game yeah, okay, I guess we haven't.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: We haven't raised the fucking trophy since me and Nick
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: did actual Charros fucking before Covid right with the Massado. Right,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: So it's it's about time we kind of get our
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: hands on it. Hopefully it's Milan, but hopefully, you know,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: just to see Italian team do it, it would it
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: would bring some more eyes on on our league this weekend.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Like I said, it wasn't the weekend to watch City
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: as a as A as a neutral Frank, because we
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: saw eleven fucking goals across all the games.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: But I guess that's what you get after the the international.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Break, a little bit of rust, a little bit of injury,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit of you know, tire leg cue the music.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's uh, it's one of these things. I
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: think your is real. Europa League happening as well.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: As Yeah, tomorrow Romo plays against a team with acronym
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: that I oh sorry, Bologna plays against f c SB,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: So you guys want to take a guess where that's from?
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Uh, Cypress, No, I don't know, Jenny, do you know
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: you this is Bologna.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: By the way, Jenny, do you know where f cs
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: F f CSB is from?
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: F CSB.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a postal code.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I know what was your guys, Agri, I said, Cypress,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I was a fucking random guess.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Romania.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: What the heck?
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: No?
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: He got it?
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you cheated Breese, would you grease?
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Formerly known as f C Stout Stelia
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: and Roma plays victory pleasant because it seems it seems
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: like every year they played Victoria Pleasant FA in these
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: in these leagues. I could be wrong, maybe they've only
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: played them like once or twice, but it feels like
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Roma Victoria Pleasant's annual occurrence.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I agree with you. Actually, I feel like we've seen
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: it way too much.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna look that up. But one last topic
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about. This weekend, Napole Inter both
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: tied at fifteen points in the city. Johnny, what do
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: you think I know? Me, I know, we just talked
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: about napotly and we talked about Inter, but this this
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: game specifically, what do you think Content is gonna have
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: to do to turn the tight around for Appoly against
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: his former his former team.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Uh, honestly, you know, go to the drawing board trying
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: to come up with something new. I feel like teams
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: are starting to like obviously, you know, Conte is very
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: set in his ways and you know it's broughtlem success,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: but people like like I said, at least full of
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: smart managers. Uh, and people are getting wise to your
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: your tricks, your your styles, and I think it's time
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: that you you know, try out something new. It's it's
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: it's it calls sprit, you know, because there's a lot
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: of players that are not getting production that you wanted.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Ned Is has what like three goals and like I
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: saw something crazy three goals and like a thousand something minutes.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Uh no alliance like only scores offside goals. Uh, Lorenzo
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Lucas struggling. You don't have you don't have Lukaku.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like Politano is just he's trying to
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: be in singing two point zero. But sometimes his cuts
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: and his shots aren't that great. But you know what,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I'll give cut him some slack. Politano does have surprises
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: every once in a while. Mctoalmen Ay has like besides
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: his game in Champions League, you know, hasn't been really
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: finding this form and said, heyeah that he had last.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Year went he went back to mctamony. He's no longer mcflatima.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Well he was in the Champions League he scored two.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he's yeah, he went down back to mctammony,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I think, and the non mcflatima in my.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Opinion, so like you need to come up with something, uh,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: something new. I think that's what Conton needs to do.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Come up with just try out something that people are
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: not gonna.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: Expect formation player selection.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: For me, you could say player selection too. I feel
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: like as if people are like all labodka, this labodka
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: that I'm like, I love labodka, but it's not just labodka.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: That's the like because you're missing him, right, it's not
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: just him that because uh, it doesn't make any fucking sense. Yeah, like,
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: well he's not that much of an important like he's
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: a good player, you know, strong midfielder, but is he
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: that one player that really makes them a win or
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: loss difference? No, I think probably something like in terms
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: of like formation player selection, you could say player selection too.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: But just at this point, it's like we're gonna go grab,
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: We're going to try out that you haven't tried out yet.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: I think it has to come down to uh formation.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's a huge match.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: And again it just to bounce off to your point,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Shinny it's or even I don't remember if it was
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Johnnier or actually I think it might have been Nick.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Whoever it was Rearli or that said, you know, you
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: know these are these are the type of results that
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: oh no.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Sorry it was Johnny. When you speaking about roma.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to, you know, exit this
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: game and kind of you know, kick yourself for not
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: getting something out of it because down the stretch, you know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: when the when, the when the points are going to
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: be tight. They are now because we know that's gonna
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: seem to be how the season is gonna end.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be a blowout winning
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: league this year.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Uh, in my personal opinion, we'll we'll, we'll see again
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: in in in due course, but when when it matters
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: the most, down the stretch, points are tight and you
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: kind of have to get these results.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Early to kind of maybe be comfortable later.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: You know, it's it starts with, you know, a matchup
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: like this on on I think it's on Saturday, right,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: so you know, it's it's a it's a huge test
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: for for Conte. I think it's a bigger test for
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: content than it is Kivu. Uh maybe if that sounds crazy,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, with the run of
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: from the Napoli's had, I think this is this is
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to say the.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Be all end all, but it's it's it's.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a must win you know in my
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: opinion for for for Napoly, I think even for Inter,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: but if you if you're looking at the Nappy point
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: of view, I think it weighs more for them than.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: It does than than it does in there because.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I think with Inter's play and how they've been able
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: to get results, I think they can kind of make
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: this up. But I feel if not, we kind of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: go on this downward spiral and things kind of go
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: a bit crazy, and you know, you have a guy
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: like Conte that's that's leading your team and things go awry.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if they're gonna
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: be able to pick up all the pieces and and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: uh and and you.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: Know, get back to where they need to be.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: So kind of similar to what you said, Nick, for
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: for you, I think this weekend is a must win
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: for nap We as well. But nevertheless it's it's a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: huge match either way if it ends, and if it
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: ends in a draw, hopefully one picks up their three
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: points to continue on their course.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: In first place. But we'll have to we'll have to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: wait and see.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, So another exciting weekend in City. We get
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: two match days within the next week, so I feel
• 1:00:58
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• 1:01:01
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• 1:01:05
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:13
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• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:20
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