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UK Column News Podcast 15th November 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoon. It's Friday, the fifteenth, November twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: Just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm
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Speaker 3: your host Mike Robinson joining me today. We have Debbie
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Speaker 3: Evans and Mark Anderson. Welcome to the program. Both. We're
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Speaker 3: going to get started today with Rachel Reeves and her
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Speaker 3: Mansion House speech in the City of London. Let's just
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Speaker 3: have a look very quickly at a couple of things
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Speaker 3: that she said. So first of all, she said that
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Speaker 3: we can't take the UK status as a global financial
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Speaker 3: center for granted, because it's a highly competitive world and
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Speaker 3: we need to earn the status and we need to
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Speaker 3: work to keep it. She said that while it's right
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Speaker 3: that successive governments made regulatory changes after the global financial crisis,
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Speaker 3: that those changes have really gone too far and they
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Speaker 3: had unintended consequences. And so the Libor government is going
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Speaker 3: to the Libor regime is going to address those problems
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Speaker 3: and remove a lot of the regulation that the City
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Speaker 3: of London has been under since two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 3: So she's saying the changes that she's setting out today
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Speaker 3: when she made this speech will drive growth and competitiveness
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Speaker 3: through investment and through reform. So how is she going
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Speaker 3: to reform this? A long term strategy? To harness the
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Speaker 3: strength of the financial service sector, making the UK global
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Speaker 3: leader in sustainable finance. And of course we all understand
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Speaker 3: what that means. This is related to climate change, the
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Speaker 3: net zero policy and so on. So sustainable finance is
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Speaker 3: the way that she wants the City of London to go.
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Speaker 3: But then she said, by reinvigorating our capital markets by
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Speaker 3: unlocking private investment through our pension funds. So she is wanting,
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Speaker 3: as everybody will know by now, to merge ninety eighty
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Speaker 3: six council pension funds together to make these so called megafunds,
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Speaker 3: and that that money will then be made available she assumes,
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Speaker 3: although she says that she's not going to mandd this
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Speaker 3: to be made available for infrastructure projects. Now, people may
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Speaker 3: have noticed by now that if you're looking closely at
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Speaker 3: the screen that I have spelt Rachel Reeves's name incorrectly
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Speaker 3: there it should be our ee v es. I've spelt
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Speaker 3: it r e a V yes, because of course what
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Speaker 3: she's doing is reaving. She is stealing effectively people's pensions
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Speaker 3: for infrastructure. But just so that we get a feeling
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Speaker 3: for how she was presenting at I'm going to apologize
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Speaker 3: in advance for doing this. Let's just listen to her
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Speaker 3: closing few words from her Mansion House speech.
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Speaker 4: We cannot rest on our arms. Where we have strengths,
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Speaker 4: we must build it. Where we have weaknesses, we must
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Speaker 4: addressed them. And in everything we do, we will work
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Speaker 4: together with you in partnership, because that is what our
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Speaker 4: country needs to prosper and to grow.
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, so that must have been an
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Speaker 3: inspiring speech. They politely clapped at the end. I hope
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Speaker 3: nobody felt too ill after listening to that. But the
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Speaker 3: question is, you know, what is a situation with infrastructure
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Speaker 3: and why is she wanting to effectively gather up all
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Speaker 3: this cash. I think in total is going to be
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Speaker 3: something I get hundred billion at the end. Well, perhaps
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Speaker 3: this gives a clue what's ailing UK listed infrastructure projects.
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Speaker 3: This is from Infrastructure Investor and they're making the point
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Speaker 3: that basically there's no money to be made in infrastructure,
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Speaker 3: therefore there's not much interest in it. The funds that
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Speaker 3: are that are there for investment in infrastructure projects aren't
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Speaker 3: getting the kind of investment that they need, and so
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Speaker 3: they are valued significantly less than the alleged value of
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Speaker 3: the the assets. The infrastructure assets that are being built,
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Speaker 3: so this is part of it. Of course. If we
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Speaker 3: look at this then from EY UK fass infrastructure spending
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Speaker 3: shortfall of at least eight hundred billion pounds by twenty forty,
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Speaker 3: says EY report. They're saying with inflation pushing project costs.
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Speaker 3: Hire EY report identifies one point six trillion pounds of
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Speaker 3: UK infrastructure and capital projects that are currently unfunded. Now,
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Speaker 3: there's nothing new or unique about this. This has been
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Speaker 3: going on for a very very long time. Every year
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Speaker 3: the government publishes its Infrastructure Pipeline, which is effectively an
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Speaker 3: Excel spreadsheet which shows all the major infrastructure projects that
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Speaker 3: are going on in the country and where the funding
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Speaker 3: for those is coming from. And while all of those
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Speaker 3: have amounts of government funding allocated to them, the remainder
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Speaker 3: is supposed to be provided by the private sector, and
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Speaker 3: most of these infrastructure projects remain unfunded because the private
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Speaker 3: sector generally isn't that interested. So the aim here is
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Speaker 3: to build these massive pension funds that are relatively large
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Speaker 3: compared to the pension the size of them as they
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Speaker 3: stand at the moment, with a view to them being
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Speaker 3: therefore managed by a smaller number of people who may
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Speaker 3: be more inclined to head in this direction. But if
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Speaker 3: anybody thinks for one second what Rachel Reeves is doing
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Speaker 3: here is in any way different if there's been any
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Speaker 3: change with the Labor regime's policy compared to the Tory Party.
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Speaker 3: Let's just look at this tweet from Jeremy Hunt, who
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Speaker 3: is the previous Chancellor of the Exchequer. Of course, much
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Speaker 3: to welcome in Chancellor's Mansion House speech today, broadly same
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Speaker 3: strategy and approaches I announced in the Mansion House reforms
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Speaker 3: last year and finally important for UK tech, tech, life
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Speaker 3: sciences and infrastructure sectors. So Debbie, I don't know what
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Speaker 3: your thoughts are on this, but really it's quite incredible
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Speaker 3: that again we have policy which just seems to trundle
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Speaker 3: on from the previous administration and the uniparty and action
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Speaker 3: as far as I can see there.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it completely is. And of course so we're mentioning
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Speaker 2: life sciences, then we're mentioning data and infrastructure again, and
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Speaker 2: I want to come onto that. Actually, michae are we
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Speaker 2: ready to go onto data and infrastructure? Because you've been
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Speaker 2: talking about it for a very long time and I
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Speaker 2: have to say that data is valuable and Rachel Reeves,
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Speaker 2: I love the way you spelt the name. By the way,
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Speaker 2: it does mean thief. Data is valuable and data is
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Speaker 2: the new currency. It's our new economy, if you like.
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Speaker 2: And data and life sciences go hand in hand, So
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Speaker 2: digitization the Office for Digital Identities and Attributes Mike's been
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Speaker 2: showing you for ages and in the UK currently we
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Speaker 2: have got sixty seven million sources of data. That's how
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Speaker 2: many of us there are in this country. And I'm
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Speaker 2: going to ask you whether you are going to sacrifice
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Speaker 2: control for convenience because if we go back to UK
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Speaker 2: Garva Plan for Digital Health and Social Care. This was
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Speaker 2: a forward by Saji Javid in June twenty twenty two
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Speaker 2: where he says I am determined to make this app
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Speaker 2: the front door to NHS services, referring to the NHS
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Speaker 2: app new functionality and more value for patients every single month.
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Speaker 2: My vision is one in which the app is an
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Speaker 2: assistant in your pocket. Well, I would argue that it's
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Speaker 2: a spy in your pocket, and it's a spy that's
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Speaker 2: going to be very helpful too, Rachel Reeves. And as
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Speaker 2: we see on the BBC, we know that patients are
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Speaker 2: going to get full access to their medical records and
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Speaker 2: their patient records. This is a digital revolution on a
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Speaker 2: single patient record of the NHS app and of course
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Speaker 2: bringing it right up to date where Streeting is announcing
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Speaker 2: that diabetics are going to get smart watches and also
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Speaker 2: actually smart rings, which I will feature on another news
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Speaker 2: the Aura ring. It just don't even start me on
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Speaker 2: the ring. But you're going to have apps to monitor you.
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Speaker 2: So the NHS app is far more important than you
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Speaker 2: can possibly imagine. Here's the website and if you don't
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Speaker 2: know about it, you do now this is how you
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Speaker 2: can get the NHS app if you want to. We've
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Speaker 2: talked about it loads of times before, tons of articles
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Speaker 2: on the column about it. This is just one the
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Speaker 2: news on the thirtieth of August twenty twenty four when
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Speaker 2: we were talking about the app. But as I said,
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Speaker 2: the app is way more important than you can ever believe,
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Speaker 2: and I just want to remind you of how important
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Speaker 2: it is to the NHS board a note they're almost
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Speaker 2: salivating at the thought of the rollout of the NHS app.
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Speaker 2: Have listen.
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Speaker 5: And hop was focused on people that need the NHS
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Speaker 5: to support their illness. We've got a full program coming
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Speaker 5: up over the next twelve months to move the vaccination
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Speaker 5: screening programs onto the app because we know that patients
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Speaker 5: who book their own appointments are more likely to turn
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Speaker 5: up for them. And the more patients we can get
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Speaker 5: screened vaccinated, the better we're putting the digital health.
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Speaker 6: Check onto the NHS APP. I have to say to
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Speaker 6: start with, it's not going to be amazing, but I
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Speaker 6: shouldn't say well, I should say and and we have
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Speaker 6: to start somewhere, which is allow the patient to order
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Speaker 6: their home testing kit and send it back because we
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Speaker 6: know over the next year, two years, five years, that
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Speaker 6: home testing kit will be available on their phone. It
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Speaker 6: will be available electronically.
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Speaker 5: And if you don't believe me, I looked yesterday at
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Speaker 5: the camera that sits by the bedside that takes all
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Speaker 5: of the vital signs of the patient in front of
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Speaker 5: them without touching the patient. And when you then think
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Speaker 5: about what that might do to the new hospital program
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Speaker 5: and how that tech can evolve. And we talked about
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Speaker 5: virtual wards earlier on how do we connect the virtual
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Speaker 5: ward technology into the NHS app so that citizens can
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Speaker 5: use that and monitor their health data. Most of us
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Speaker 5: have wearables on us.
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Speaker 6: The future of how we use.
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Speaker 5: Our NHS out and giving our citizens their digital account
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Speaker 5: to manage their own healthcare is stunning.
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Speaker 2: And for those that.
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Speaker 5: Don't believe, and there are some, we are saying, I
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Speaker 5: think very conservatively that we want to move a third
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Speaker 5: of all of our health interactions to being digital first
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Speaker 5: over the next five years.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there is a remark at the very beginning
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Speaker 3: of that that I hadn't noticed before where he says
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Speaker 3: that he wants to support their illness. He doesn't want
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Speaker 3: to support their health or support their cure and support
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Speaker 3: their wellness their illness.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, absolutely, this is all about being ill This
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Speaker 2: is not about well. I mean, let's face it, the
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Speaker 2: pharmaceutical companies don't make any money off well people, do they.
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Speaker 2: So this is all about illness, supporting illness, diagnosing bad illnesses.
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Speaker 2: We'll come on to look at that. But where is
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Speaker 2: your data going, Mike, Because as we know, we've spoken
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Speaker 2: many times about it, and so as Ben, we all
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Speaker 2: have Palenteer. So Peter Thiel a private company, CIA Connections
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Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty million pound contract. Originally you know
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Speaker 2: he only bid one pound for this contract. But looking
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Speaker 2: further on into Palenteer. Proud to serve the NHS, they say,
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Speaker 2: I bet they are using the foundry key tool. This
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Speaker 2: is the NHS's biggest ever exercise in operational data integration.
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Speaker 2: And of course we come back to the vaccine rollout.
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Speaker 2: But you know what apps are being added all the time,
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Speaker 2: and I have to say I haven't included it in
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Speaker 2: this news but ping and book is the latest one.
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Speaker 2: If you go to the search bar of your browser
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Speaker 2: and put ping and book NHS, you can ping and
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Speaker 2: book a breast scan or a cevical smear. Well, my
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Speaker 2: message to the NHS thank you is ping off. However,
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Speaker 2: I am going to show you another app that they're adding,
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Speaker 2: and this is going to be added to the NHS app.
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Speaker 2: This is the NHS West Yorkshire. They launched this the
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Speaker 2: support app for unpaid careers. Please note that unpaid care
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Speaker 2: as they're going to be in collaboration with fitbit Alexa.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be remote, it's going to hold medical records.
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Speaker 2: But let's look a little bit more at what is
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Speaker 2: care networks, because this is what they're called where they
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Speaker 2: say supporting a loved one has never been made easier,
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Speaker 2: But what does it actually mean? So when we look
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Speaker 2: at core functionality, what it actually says is that they're
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Speaker 2: going to use a secure collaboration, a shared calendar, real
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Speaker 2: time messaging and document sharing and management of your loved one.
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Speaker 2: And they've even coined the phrase very nicely, share to care,
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Speaker 2: which means integration. They're going to integrate this in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five, so it's not long. They're going to use
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Speaker 2: this for your loved ones at home and if you
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Speaker 2: can't care for them, if you're at work, if you're busy,
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Speaker 2: they're going to jump in seeing home devices such as
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Speaker 2: Google Home, Alexa AI personalization to look after your loved one.
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Speaker 2: So what does it look like on the actual app, Well,
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Speaker 2: when you go and look at the pictures that they
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Speaker 2: show there, you can see right in the middle it
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Speaker 2: says you can't get it more plainly than that trackers,
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Speaker 2: because that is what it's all about. And what is
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Speaker 2: the integration framework that they talk about, Well, they talk
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Speaker 2: about this integration. You've got this Yorkshire and Humber Care
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Speaker 2: record integrated with the NHS, also integrated again with Fitfits.
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Speaker 2: And what did concern me was a comment that they
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Speaker 2: had on their pre launch feedback which actually says I
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Speaker 2: love the way that it takes all of your information.
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Speaker 2: It makes it easy, but it also makes it easy
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Speaker 2: for employers because many pitmany carers have to have time
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Speaker 2: off work, have to look after their loved ones. So
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Speaker 2: there's employers benefits too, enhancing the workplace because now employers
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Speaker 2: who are carers, they don't ever need to get depressed anymore.
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Speaker 2: Isn't this fantastic? This little app is going to make
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Speaker 2: everyone feel much much better, and there's solutions, so you
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Speaker 2: know this is going to make a huge difference to
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Speaker 2: the workplace. Two point six million people apparently quit their
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Speaker 2: jobs to care for a loved one. Well, you won't
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Speaker 2: have to anymore now because you can have the app.
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Speaker 2: And there's more benefits. I mean, please do going and
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Speaker 2: look at this app, because really it's huge. But the
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Speaker 2: benefits are that you'll get reduced stress, improved health, and
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Speaker 2: your own company can have a branded app. How exciting
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Speaker 2: is that. Looking at the stats, we can see that
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Speaker 2: women are more often than not the unpaid cares. So
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Speaker 2: we've got five to ten million cares one hundred and
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Speaker 2: sixty two billion of unpaid care going on, with over
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Speaker 2: one point five million providing care for exceeding fifty hours. Now,
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Speaker 2: here's a very short excerpt from care works is little video.
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Speaker 2: Have a look and there you go. The music drives
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Speaker 2: you mad, doesn't it. But this is the app that's
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Speaker 2: kind of look after your loved one when you can't.
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Speaker 2: So please those of you that are watching. If you
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Speaker 2: have the NHS app, would you consider deleting it? If
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Speaker 2: you know somebody that has the NHS app, would you
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Speaker 2: consider suggesting to them that they delete this? Because this
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Speaker 2: is the digital front door. This is the front door
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Speaker 2: to a digital health, a digital hell. In my opinion,
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Speaker 2: we are giving you the information. This is informed choice.
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Speaker 2: This is what informed choice is all about. So here's
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Speaker 2: the choice you decide. We're going to start an army.
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Speaker 2: We're going to do something. Every little helps. Can you
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Speaker 2: help us scrap the app and send hashtag scrap the
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Speaker 2: app viral? Please do help because it really will make
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Speaker 2: a huge difference and it will kick the government right
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Speaker 2: in the guts.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Debbie, Thank you for that. Mark, Let's come
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Speaker 3: over to you. And of course this week Trump has
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Speaker 3: been announcing his appointment for his cabinet and his non
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Speaker 3: cabinet positions.
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Speaker 7: What's your view, Well, it's a mixed bag for sure.
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Speaker 7: The general statements to make up front is that so
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Speaker 7: far I'm seeing much less of a outright globalist pedigree
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Speaker 7: Mike in his choices, no obvious or detected Council and
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Speaker 7: Foreign Relations members for example, or any of the other
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Speaker 7: major think tanks from Washington and that greater area, which
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Speaker 7: is somewhat encouraging. We can start with this slide and
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Speaker 7: I'll give some more overview as we go along. For
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Speaker 7: a national security advisor, we're looking at an actual Florida Congressman,
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Speaker 7: Mike Waltz. W Altz spelled like the dance. He's a
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Speaker 7: colonel retired in the National Guard, a combat decorated Green Beret,
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Speaker 7: former White House and Pentagon policy advisor, small business owner, author,
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Speaker 7: and proud father, the first Green Beret to be elected
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Speaker 7: to Congress. Born in Florida, raised by a hardworking single mom, etc.
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Speaker 7: He has served his country his entire life. This is
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Speaker 7: from his own bio. He graduated from the Virginia Military
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Speaker 7: Institute with honors, served twenty seven years in the Army
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Speaker 7: and National Guard, retiring during his second term in Congress.
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Speaker 7: After being commissioned as an Army lieutenant, he graduated Ranger
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Speaker 7: School and was selected for the Elite Green Berets, etc.
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Speaker 4: Etc.
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Speaker 7: For his actions in combat. He's gotten four Bronze Stars,
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Speaker 7: including two for balor. So we've got somebody that's gotten
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Speaker 7: his hands dirty, you might say, someone who's been on
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Speaker 7: the ground who's going to be national security advisor. That's
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Speaker 7: a bit different than predecessors in recent times. His service
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Speaker 7: continued at the White House as well as at the Pentagon.
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Speaker 7: And this is a little bit interesting, however, as a
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Speaker 7: defense policy director for Secretaries of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and
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Speaker 7: Robert Gates. Now they were very globalist oriented. Of course,
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Speaker 7: Rumsfeld has been cited for corruption his entire life. This
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Speaker 7: doesn't necessarily indict Waltz, but it's worth mentioning. Waltz also
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Speaker 7: advised the Bush administration on policy he then carried out
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Speaker 7: in the military, kind of playing both sides of the
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Speaker 7: fence there. His experiences as a soldier and policy advisor
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Speaker 7: inspired him to write the book Warrior, Diplomatic Green Berets
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Speaker 7: Battles from Washington to Afghanistan, and those proceeds went to charity,
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Speaker 7: including benefiting a Green beretfon He also wrote a children's book,
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Speaker 7: Dawn of the Brave, a Christian book that teaches children
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Speaker 7: the importance of service, which is notable.
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Speaker 2: We'll move on and.
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Speaker 7: Start covering some of the others. Other Trump nominees who,
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Speaker 7: like Florida US Representative Mike Waltz, must leave Congress to
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Speaker 7: serve in these top executive posts. They include Representative Matt
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Speaker 7: Gates nominated for Attorney General. He's also from Florida. He's
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Speaker 7: undergoing an ethics probe right now. However, New York US
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Speaker 7: Representative Elise Stefanic she's going to have to leave Congress
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Speaker 7: to be Ambassador to the UN for Trump, of course,
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Speaker 7: jd Vance, US Senator out of Ohio, leaving that Senate
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Speaker 7: post to be Vice President, and another Florida congress member,
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Speaker 7: US Senator Marco Rubio, to be Secretary of State. And
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Speaker 7: he's being tapped for that partially Mike, because he's been
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Speaker 7: involved with intelligence intelligence committees and other key committees in Congress,
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Speaker 7: he might seem like a strange fit for Secretary of State,
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Speaker 7: but Trump insists otherwise. Now going on here, This is
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Speaker 7: from the House of Representatives press gallery, and it shows
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Speaker 7: the party breakdown. Two hundred and twenty Republicans and two
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Speaker 7: hundred and thirteen Democrats in the House, and it has
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Speaker 7: two vacancies for Representative Bill Pascrell out of New Jersey,
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Speaker 7: a Democrat that passed away in August, and Matt Gates,
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Speaker 7: a Republican who resigned his Congress post to be Attorney General.
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Speaker 7: But I'll note that one of the consequences of the
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Speaker 7: way that Trump is going about this, Mike, is that
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Speaker 7: those that you might call good people, good conservatives, many
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Speaker 7: of them constitutionalists, are being pulled out of Congress, pulled
21:43
Speaker 7: out of the Senate and House positions, and even out
21:46
Speaker 7: of governorships at the state level to serve in the
21:48
Speaker 7: Trump administration. So there is a trade off there, a
21:53
Speaker 7: dependable MAGA America. First, Conservative Republicans are no longer going
21:59
Speaker 7: to be in the legis lative bodies to a degree,
22:02
Speaker 7: and that might present some challenges if those seats are
22:05
Speaker 7: filled by Rhino Republicans, Republicans in name only who are
22:10
Speaker 7: more old school GOP and tend to be more globalist.
22:13
Speaker 7: So that's a dynamic we have to look at now
22:17
Speaker 7: looking at this slide to explain a little bit about
22:21
Speaker 7: how the system works. In Florida and Ohio, the governor
22:24
Speaker 7: appoints a replacement US Senator who will serve until the
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Speaker 7: next state wide election. Ohio Governor Mike de Wine and
22:31
Speaker 7: Florida Governor Ron De Santis each will appoint someone to
22:35
Speaker 7: fill their state's respective Senate seats until a special twenty
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Speaker 7: twenty six election can be held. The twenty twenty six
22:43
Speaker 7: elections winners will serve the remainder of jd Vance's in
22:46
Speaker 7: Marco Rubio's terms. That's how it works. Thus those winners
22:50
Speaker 7: would have to seek reelection in twenty twenty eight. You
22:53
Speaker 7: serve full six year terms if you serve a full
22:56
Speaker 7: term in the US Senate. Both the Wine and dissentant
23:00
Speaker 7: have long histories with Trump, though the Ohio governor, mister
23:04
Speaker 7: Dowine is one of the few prominent Republicans who declined
23:07
Speaker 7: to endorse Trump's twenty twenty four bid, and Dessanta's relationship
23:12
Speaker 7: with Trump also has been a bit cold after the
23:14
Speaker 7: two men faced off of the GOP presidential primaries earlier
23:18
Speaker 7: this year. However, these two Republican governors are expected to
23:21
Speaker 7: work in their party's best interests given Trump's decisive victory,
23:27
Speaker 7: So that's how it's shaping up in terms of those
23:31
Speaker 7: matters now. Who will replace jd Vance as Ohio Senator.
23:35
Speaker 7: This is according to the prolifelifenews dot com. So this
23:39
Speaker 7: is a socially conservative news outlet that's looking at social issues.
23:46
Speaker 7: I won't get into all of this. Some replacements for
23:49
Speaker 7: JD Vance in the US Senate since he's going to
23:51
Speaker 7: be vice president include Ohio State Senator Matt Dolan. He
23:56
Speaker 7: served in the state House for more than a decade
23:58
Speaker 7: and became a state senateitor. However, he upset conservatives by
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Speaker 7: sponsoring Ohio's version of the Equality Act, an extreme LGBT
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Speaker 7: bill that would strip away protections for free speech, religious liberty, privacy, girls, sports,
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Speaker 7: and conscience rights for anyone with moral objections to same
24:19
Speaker 7: sex marriage or transgenderism. See so there's risk involved that
24:24
Speaker 7: people like JD Vance leaving the Senate might be replaced
24:27
Speaker 7: by those that are particularly liberal Republicans. Others include Other
24:33
Speaker 7: replacements for Jdvans include Ohio Secretary of State Frank LeRose,
24:38
Speaker 7: Lieutenant Governor John Husted, Attorney General Dave Yost, and James Timpkin,
24:43
Speaker 7: who was Ohio's Republican party chair for about four years.
24:48
Speaker 7: And so these are some others to keep an eye
24:50
Speaker 7: on that top one, of course, is a concern given
24:53
Speaker 7: his very liberal views for Republican Now, one of the
24:57
Speaker 7: big announcements, Mike, and this just came out last night,
25:01
Speaker 7: mainly in terms of making it official. RFK Junior, Yes
25:06
Speaker 7: It's true, has been named to be the Department of
25:09
Speaker 7: Health and Human Services Secretary. This happens to be from
25:12
Speaker 7: NBC News. President elect Donald Trump on fourteen November picked
25:17
Speaker 7: RFK Junior, an anti vaccine activist NBC declares, who dropped
25:22
Speaker 7: out of the twenty twenty four presidential race and endorsed Trump,
25:25
Speaker 7: to lead the DHHS. Trump made the announcement on his
25:28
Speaker 7: social media platform Truth Social. I am thrilled to announce
25:33
Speaker 7: RFK Junior as the US Secretary of Health and Human Services.
25:37
Speaker 7: Trump wrote, for too long, Americans have been crushed by
25:41
Speaker 7: the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged
25:44
Speaker 7: in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to public health.
25:50
Speaker 7: In a post on X formerly Twinter, Kennedy himself said,
25:55
Speaker 7: we have a generational opportunity to bring together the greatest
25:58
Speaker 7: minds in science, men, an industry, and government to put
26:02
Speaker 7: an end to the chronic disease epidemic. NBC went on
26:07
Speaker 7: to say that during his presidential campaign, Kennedy developed a
26:11
Speaker 7: national profile for his criticism of the COVID vaccines and
26:14
Speaker 7: childhood immunizations. He's claimed that vaccines are tied to autism,
26:19
Speaker 7: despite evidence to the contrary. NBC insists the appointment of
26:23
Speaker 7: Kennedy's seventy the lead HHS ends the days of speculation
26:28
Speaker 7: about what health role, if any, that the former independent
26:32
Speaker 7: presidential candidate turned Trump advisor would play in the upcoming administration.
26:36
Speaker 7: And Kennedy has promised or excuse me, Kennedy has claimed
26:41
Speaker 7: Trump promised him control of these public health agencies and
26:46
Speaker 7: allegedly Kennedy will come down to take a closer look
26:51
Speaker 7: at the Centers for Disease Control and other agencies that
26:55
Speaker 7: have been so pro vaccine in the past. There's some
26:59
Speaker 7: other slides here. A lot of this can be looked
27:02
Speaker 7: at after the fact, or people can do freeze frames
27:07
Speaker 7: or look this up later. But I have some New
27:09
Speaker 7: York Times listings for the Senate confirmations or Senate confirmation
27:15
Speaker 7: is required for these dominees. That includes Attorney General Matt Gates,
27:19
Speaker 7: Secretary of State Mark Rubio not soon to be former
27:24
Speaker 7: South Dakota Governor, Homeland Security Christy nome CIA director John Ratcliffe,
27:31
Speaker 7: who formerly was Director of National Intelligence, and the Director
27:35
Speaker 7: of National Intelligence, Dominee is Telsea Gabbard. Some media outlets
27:40
Speaker 7: are calling her isolationist. We got Epa Lee Zelden, un
27:45
Speaker 7: Elise Stefanik also currently in the House, and of course
27:49
Speaker 7: Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Junior, And the
27:52
Speaker 7: next slide shows where there's no Senate confirmation required. One
27:58
Speaker 7: that's not listed here, though, Mike is Mike Huckabee, the
28:01
Speaker 7: former Arkansas governor who's going to be the US ambassador
28:05
Speaker 7: to Israel, and he's noted for being very pro settlement
28:09
Speaker 7: and very stridently pro Zionist and pro Israel. So it's
28:13
Speaker 7: a little difficult to see how we'll get a lot
28:15
Speaker 7: of impartiality out of mister Huckabee. And given the time left,
28:22
Speaker 7: we can do some of this. In Extra, I also
28:24
Speaker 7: have some slides on how the seventeenth Amendment works and
28:28
Speaker 7: how the States appoint replacements for senators that resign and
28:33
Speaker 7: things like that. So we'll take a harder look at that,
28:36
Speaker 7: Mike if we can in extra and explain a little
28:39
Speaker 7: bit more about how the system works. So back to you.
28:43
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mark, thank you very much for that. In
28:45
Speaker 3: the meantime, then a news article came out in The
28:49
Speaker 3: New York Times headlined Elon Musk met with Iran's ambassador.
28:55
Speaker 3: Sorryanian official say the tech belion are. A top advisor
28:58
Speaker 3: to President elect Donald J. Trump, was reported to have
29:01
Speaker 3: discussed ways to defuse tensions between Iran and the United States.
29:05
Speaker 3: Many people are asking what this is all about? Did
29:08
Speaker 3: it even happen?
29:09
Speaker 4: Now?
29:09
Speaker 3: The United States hasn't offered any kind of confirmation that
29:14
Speaker 3: this has happened. This came from two unnamed Iranian sources apparently,
29:19
Speaker 3: but it's being described as positive and good news by some.
29:23
Speaker 3: But the question is what is this about? And well,
29:26
Speaker 3: the suggestion that I have been told is that perhaps Mosque,
29:32
Speaker 3: if he did meet with the Iranian ambassador to the UN,
29:36
Speaker 3: was there to basically suggest that, perhaps, you know, sanctions
29:40
Speaker 3: could be lifted under certain circumstances. Perhaps you know there
29:45
Speaker 3: is an economic or a business opportunity there if sanctions
29:48
Speaker 3: were lifted. But the question is what would be the
29:52
Speaker 3: return on that? And it seems that the suggestion is
29:56
Speaker 3: that Iran would be perhaps taking a back seat as
30:00
Speaker 3: Israel completes the work that it needs to do as
30:04
Speaker 3: it precedes itself to need to do, and that certainly
30:09
Speaker 3: there are other hints that this is what might be
30:11
Speaker 3: going on, because, for example, just today Iran has come
30:14
Speaker 3: out in support of UN Resolution seventeen oh one, which
30:18
Speaker 3: is all about creating effectively a demilitarized zone along the
30:23
Speaker 3: southern edge of Lebanon. Sorry, and so this effectively would
30:31
Speaker 3: be perceived as being a withdrawal of support for Hesbela
30:33
Speaker 3: for example. So there's many many questions to be asked.
30:36
Speaker 3: I'm sure Vanessa will more on this next week, but
30:39
Speaker 3: many many questions to be asked if this meeting did
30:42
Speaker 3: happen as to what exactly was going on there. Now,
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31:40
Speaker 3: with Matt Ratt entitled The New Age of Sorcerers, UFO's
31:44
Speaker 3: MK Ultra and the cod War, and this is all
31:46
Speaker 3: about the third episode in his documentary series about the
31:50
Speaker 3: people mostly if not all globalists who have been pushing
31:55
Speaker 3: a very pro global governance agenda for many many decades
32:00
Speaker 3: seem to be the same people that are pushing extremely
32:02
Speaker 3: hard on the idea of aliens visiting from outside and
32:08
Speaker 3: so on. So watch that if you haven't seen it.
32:10
Speaker 3: And by coincidence, this week there is a second congressional
32:14
Speaker 3: inquiry into UFOs and we have published an article on
32:20
Speaker 3: that to follow up on that, to read that if
32:22
Speaker 3: you can as well, and mark briefly, we have published
32:26
Speaker 3: an article by you here is think tanks create news.
32:28
Speaker 3: Let's old school journalism is dying amid huge conflicts of interest.
32:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I look short compared to that Chatham
32:37
Speaker 7: House door. I am not froto out of Lord of
32:39
Speaker 7: the Rings. That's a huge door. Anyway, it's an interesting
32:43
Speaker 7: article in that. Yes, over time think tanks are operating
32:47
Speaker 7: more like news organizations and a little bit of vice versa.
32:50
Speaker 7: And I think what readers will find that most likely
32:53
Speaker 7: this is indicative of the news industry, the legacy news industry,
32:57
Speaker 7: trying to reinvent itself amid falling subscribers, amid falling viewers,
33:02
Speaker 7: sometimes precipitously. So yeah, give it a read. There's a
33:06
Speaker 7: lot of implications, and I think it's largely good news
33:10
Speaker 7: for the dissident media as well.
33:13
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mark and Debbie. Your latest blog is up.
33:16
Speaker 2: It is indeed a bit of a bumper one a
33:19
Speaker 2: little bit salty as well. Actually, NHS app of course,
33:22
Speaker 2: should we move away from the term care and also
33:25
Speaker 2: transgender look at trans species that's in my blog this week.
33:29
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for that, Debbie. Okay, let's move on
33:33
Speaker 3: then to Brexit without the exit, and we're going to
33:36
Speaker 3: start off here with the wonderful Governor of the Bank
33:39
Speaker 3: of England, Andrew Billy, who speaking yesterday as a public
33:44
Speaker 3: officially said I take no position on Brexit per se,
33:47
Speaker 3: but I do have to point out consequences. He said,
33:50
Speaker 3: the impact on trade seems to be more in goods
33:53
Speaker 3: than services, but it underlies why, underlines why we must
33:56
Speaker 3: be alert and welcome to and welcome opportunities to read
34:00
Speaker 3: old relations while respecting that very important decision of the
34:03
Speaker 3: British people. The question is, is anybody respecting that very
34:07
Speaker 3: important decision of the British people? And pretty certain Andrew
34:10
Speaker 3: Billy isn't. I'm pretty certain this lady isn't that either,
34:14
Speaker 3: because Rachel Reeves again at her Mansion House speech, said
34:17
Speaker 3: our biggest trading partner is the European Union. We will
34:20
Speaker 3: not be reversing Brexit or re entering the Single Marketer
34:23
Speaker 3: or Customs Union, but we must reset our relationship. Now.
34:26
Speaker 3: Of course, they have already begun doing that, and so okay,
34:31
Speaker 3: they're not going to re enter the Single Market or
34:33
Speaker 3: Customs Union. But the question is are they going to
34:35
Speaker 3: build infrastructure diplomatic infrastructure, which is effectively the same sort
34:41
Speaker 3: of thing. And I would suggest that they are. But
34:43
Speaker 3: really the point of this raising this issue again is
34:46
Speaker 3: to follow on from the report on Wednesday, where we're
34:49
Speaker 3: talking about defense and security and so as we made
34:53
Speaker 3: the point Russie back in July, we're talking about or asking,
34:57
Speaker 3: what can the new government's proposed UKU Security Pact achieve.
35:02
Speaker 3: And the key word key acronym there is EU because
35:05
Speaker 3: what we're talking about is defense infrastructure in the European
35:10
Speaker 3: Union being controlled at an EU Commission level. So it's
35:14
Speaker 3: perhaps unsurprising then that this was being tweeted out by
35:18
Speaker 3: David Lammy this morning. Sorry, actually on Wednesday. Apologies, A
35:24
Speaker 3: pleasure to meet my friend Joseph Barrell. Now Joseph Barrell,
35:26
Speaker 3: of course is the EUS or the European Commissions effectively
35:30
Speaker 3: foreign minister special representative as they like to call it,
35:34
Speaker 3: and David Lammie here saying together we're laying the foundations
35:37
Speaker 3: for enhanced British EU cooperation, including through a new security
35:42
Speaker 3: partnership to tackle share challenges. Both of us are focused
35:45
Speaker 3: on putting Ukraine in the strongest possible position this winter,
35:48
Speaker 3: and as we mentioned on Wednesday, of courses is largely
35:51
Speaker 3: being driven or released, the momentum is largely being driven
35:54
Speaker 3: by the Trump win, but that wasn't the only thing
35:58
Speaker 3: going on. Over the last couple of days. We have
36:01
Speaker 3: signed a new defense agreement with Romania, deepening our cooperation
36:05
Speaker 3: as NATO allies. Our nations stand united in support of
36:09
Speaker 3: Ukraine as it continues to resist Russian aggression. So we
36:13
Speaker 3: continue to build us our way back into the EU.
36:18
Speaker 3: And my question of the question in my lips is
36:20
Speaker 3: where is Nigel Farage? And of course he has been
36:24
Speaker 3: in the United States, but he said nothing about the
36:28
Speaker 3: meetings of a couple of months ago between Starmer and
36:31
Speaker 3: the EU leaders to effectively bring us back into some
36:35
Speaker 3: form of arrangement with the European Union again. But Nigel
36:40
Speaker 3: Farage is speaking in the House of Commons on Wednesday
36:42
Speaker 3: at Prime Minister's questions, let's just have a listen.
36:46
Speaker 8: Thank you, mister speaker. I'm sure the Prime Minister and
36:49
Speaker 8: the whole House would wish to congratulate Donald Trump on
36:53
Speaker 8: his landslide victory last week. I will hear the question Nie,
37:08
Speaker 8: thank you. But within a couple of days we'd learned
37:11
Speaker 8: of a third assassination attempt. Charges have been laid and
37:15
Speaker 8: behind it are Iran's revolutionary regards has the time not
37:20
Speaker 8: come Prime Minister to prescribe what is so obviously a
37:24
Speaker 8: terrorist organization and in doing so not just do the
37:29
Speaker 8: right thing, but maybe men some fences between this government
37:34
Speaker 8: and the incoming presidency of Donald Trump's, given that the
37:37
Speaker 8: whole of his cabinet have been so rude about him
37:40
Speaker 8: over the last few years.
37:43
Speaker 9: Well, I'm glad to see the aill remember making a
37:45
Speaker 9: rare appearance back.
37:46
Speaker 2: Here in Britain.
37:48
Speaker 9: It spent so much time in America recently. I was
37:51
Speaker 9: half expecting to see on the immigration statistics when we see,
37:57
Speaker 9: but he may have. In my first I did congratulate
38:03
Speaker 9: in coming president last and we will work with them.
38:07
Speaker 9: The point he makes about run is a very serious point.
38:10
Speaker 9: We will work across the house and with our allies
38:13
Speaker 9: on it. Obviously on question of prescription, we keep them
38:15
Speaker 9: under review.
38:16
Speaker 10: Thank you.
38:19
Speaker 3: So it seems to have forgotten about Europe all together,
38:22
Speaker 3: and I was pushing a pro jump Trump agenda and
38:26
Speaker 3: focusing on Iran here in this case, And the question
38:29
Speaker 3: is why I appreciate he probably wants to form some
38:34
Speaker 3: kind of back channel between Trump and the current regime
38:39
Speaker 3: in this country. But nonetheless Farage would never engage on
38:43
Speaker 3: this issue of European defense in any kind of really
38:46
Speaker 3: effective way, and he seems to have abandoned anybody that
38:51
Speaker 3: is pro Brexit in more recent times. So we'll talk
38:54
Speaker 3: about this much more an extra and in future reports.
38:58
Speaker 3: But my question then is what is driving him at
39:01
Speaker 3: the moment. But anyway, Debbie, let's move on back to
39:05
Speaker 3: you and testing in the NHS.
39:10
Speaker 2: But you know, but before that, I just have to
39:13
Speaker 2: say that Keir Starmer has spent sixty percent of his
39:16
Speaker 2: time out of the country since he took office as
39:20
Speaker 2: Prime Minister, just saying, But anyway, I'm fed up and
39:23
Speaker 2: I think a lot of our viewers and our audience
39:26
Speaker 2: are fed up to because I am being bombarded by texts, emails.
39:31
Speaker 2: I'm being infiltrated by the NHS. They seem to be
39:35
Speaker 2: infiltrating every single part of our lives and I would
39:38
Speaker 2: like to once again tell them if it's not through
39:40
Speaker 2: the app or a text or an email, to ping off.
39:43
Speaker 2: So let's look at bowel cancer screening for a start. So,
39:46
Speaker 2: according to the NHS, anyone over the age of fifty
39:49
Speaker 2: four or between the age of fifty four to seventy
39:52
Speaker 2: four automatically gets a bowl screening kit. Again, as you
39:57
Speaker 2: said Mike earlier, this is supporting illness. Some was wanting
40:00
Speaker 2: to do a bowel test for me to see if
40:02
Speaker 2: I'd got Biffido bacteria enough Biffodo bacteria in my body,
40:07
Speaker 2: that would be fantastic. But like you said before, we're
40:10
Speaker 2: screening for illness. This is again for illness. But it
40:14
Speaker 2: goes on to say that it's your choice, but actually
40:18
Speaker 2: it isn't because you're going to get this kit sent
40:20
Speaker 2: through to you anyway, and uninvited yet again for me,
40:26
Speaker 2: dropping through my letterbox this week was another letter and
40:30
Speaker 2: I just want you to take note of the red
40:32
Speaker 2: arrow where it says Southern Program Hub, Guildford, because that
40:35
Speaker 2: is quite important. But before I go into my bowel
40:39
Speaker 2: cancer screening program experience, and we will go into it,
40:43
Speaker 2: i'm still shaking. So let's look at the difference first
40:46
Speaker 2: between opt in and opt out. So what is the difference.
40:49
Speaker 2: Opting in means that the power rests with you. You
40:54
Speaker 2: choose to give the green light. So if you say yes,
40:58
Speaker 2: that's fine. If you if you want to opt in,
41:01
Speaker 2: great you do it. But if you don't, it's sorry,
41:04
Speaker 2: you're not having my data However, if you opt out,
41:08
Speaker 2: they say that silence speaks for itself. This is what's
41:11
Speaker 2: known as passive control. We've talked about it before, and
41:15
Speaker 2: I just want to highlight a couple of articles that
41:18
Speaker 2: we've looked at regarding nudge and sludge in a minute,
41:21
Speaker 2: But what is nudge and sludge because we've talked about it.
41:25
Speaker 2: Sludge is a friction that makes it harder for you
41:28
Speaker 2: to do something. So a sludge, for example, we'll come
41:32
Speaker 2: onto it in a minute, is actually you have to
41:35
Speaker 2: make sure that you physically opt out. If you're being nudged,
41:40
Speaker 2: it means that you're being nudged in a direction to
41:43
Speaker 2: take something up or to be persuaded to do something.
41:47
Speaker 2: So for example, the NHS organ donation, right, we've talked
41:51
Speaker 2: about that before, and that is a sludge, So you
41:54
Speaker 2: have to deliberately and knowingly go and sign a form
42:00
Speaker 2: to opt out. Otherwise you're considered opting in and you
42:05
Speaker 2: can register a decision not to donate as well. So
42:09
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know what is all of this
42:11
Speaker 2: about what it's driving me mad. I really do want
42:15
Speaker 2: to say to everybody, please ping off, because it's like
42:17
Speaker 2: the NHS are invading me, and I'm sure you probably
42:20
Speaker 2: feel the same. So is this harassment? So I went
42:24
Speaker 2: to look at the Protection for Harassment Act because I
42:27
Speaker 2: genuinely don't know, and this is where I'm asking the question,
42:30
Speaker 2: so a person, if it's harassment, It says that a
42:34
Speaker 2: person must not pursue a course of conduct which amounts
42:37
Speaker 2: to harassment of another and which he knows or ought
42:40
Speaker 2: to know amounts to harassment. So is it part is
42:44
Speaker 2: it partly harassment? I don't know? Or is this Malicious
42:48
Speaker 2: Communications Act where electronic information of any description which is
42:53
Speaker 2: indecent or grossly offensive and you could argue that this
42:57
Speaker 2: could be deemed as grossly offensive causes this stress or
43:00
Speaker 2: anxiety to the recipient or any other person. Or is
43:04
Speaker 2: it spam? And should we be looking at the anti
43:08
Speaker 2: spam law which prohibits the sending of unsolicited marketing emails
43:13
Speaker 2: to individuals? And I don't know the answer to that question.
43:17
Speaker 2: So I'm throwing it out for our audience or for
43:19
Speaker 2: any lawyers, or for any barristers. But I do want
43:22
Speaker 2: to highlight, as I said before, where we have mentioned
43:25
Speaker 2: this many times before. So just pop into the search
43:28
Speaker 2: bar nudges and sludges and spam. And I'm sure you're
43:33
Speaker 2: going to get a lot of articles including those two.
43:35
Speaker 2: And I've written about it on my blog. So let's
43:37
Speaker 2: get back to the bow test, because I'm only going
43:39
Speaker 2: to highlight the bowel test. It could be a breast
43:42
Speaker 2: it could be a breast scan, it could be anything.
43:44
Speaker 2: I'm just going for bow because that's what I got
43:48
Speaker 2: and I was told, or at least I thought that
43:51
Speaker 2: i'd opted out, and I got this letter and this
43:54
Speaker 2: glossy leaflet telling me that my kit was coming through
43:59
Speaker 2: the door. So let's look at multiple optauts and nudge theory.
44:05
Speaker 2: Let's look at this nudge theory. Have you got the
44:09
Speaker 2: next slide for nudge theory? I think so. I think
44:11
Speaker 2: we might have a conversation because I got so Yes,
44:15
Speaker 2: we do. I think we do have a conversation. I
44:17
Speaker 2: got so cross. I phoned the department the Southern Hub
44:21
Speaker 2: to ask if I had opted out. Have a listen.
44:26
Speaker 11: No, no, this is in line with data protection, Missus Evans.
44:29
Speaker 11: In order to remove you from the list, it does
44:31
Speaker 11: need to be in writing. So let me at least
44:33
Speaker 11: send the letter to you, okay free through the covering
44:36
Speaker 11: letter and then if you do wish to sign and return,
44:39
Speaker 11: then you're welcome to Can.
44:40
Speaker 10: I just check does this? Will this cover me for
44:43
Speaker 10: all requests for all tests? Because I want to be
44:48
Speaker 10: opted out for all of these tests, whether it be
44:51
Speaker 10: a sputum test or a stall test, or a blood
44:53
Speaker 10: test or a whatever test.
44:56
Speaker 11: No, this is just removing you from the National Bowel
44:58
Speaker 11: Cancer Screening Program to just from the fit kits that
45:01
Speaker 11: we send.
45:03
Speaker 10: So have I got to call everybody else that's also
45:06
Speaker 10: sending me testing kits?
45:08
Speaker 11: Well? Possibly, it really does depend on their protocol on
45:13
Speaker 11: removing someone from a recall list. I can't really comment
45:17
Speaker 11: on how to remove your name from sort of other places.
45:20
Speaker 10: I just thought the NHS was the NHS, and if
45:22
Speaker 10: you did it with one, then it covered you for
45:24
Speaker 10: the whole of the NHS. I didn't realize that it
45:26
Speaker 10: had been fragmented into so many different departments that you
45:31
Speaker 10: have to opt out of every single department. Sorry to
45:34
Speaker 10: have to ask you so many questions, but I'm confused.
45:38
Speaker 11: No, No, that's fine. Well, it's you know, some people,
45:40
Speaker 11: they might not want to take part in belle screening,
45:42
Speaker 11: but they might want to do breast screening and vice versa.
45:44
Speaker 11: So it's a personal choice really on what you want
45:48
Speaker 11: to do. But I can't really comment on how to
45:50
Speaker 11: remove your name from other screening programs.
45:52
Speaker 10: Okay, it would just be helpful, I think if there
45:54
Speaker 10: was a generic one where you could opt out from
45:56
Speaker 10: all of them and not have to call multiple numbers
45:59
Speaker 10: and try to track down multiple people to try knocked
46:03
Speaker 10: out of because it does seem like a waste of
46:04
Speaker 10: money when these kits are just being sent out and
46:07
Speaker 10: they're literally going straight in the bin, you know, it
46:09
Speaker 10: just seems like an an incredible waste.
46:11
Speaker 11: And I disagree with you, no, not at all.
46:16
Speaker 2: So as you can see, I was a little cheesed off,
46:18
Speaker 2: to say the least, because I thought genuinely i'd opted
46:22
Speaker 2: out and when I phoned that number. And I have
46:24
Speaker 2: to say too that I did inform the call center
46:28
Speaker 2: operator that I was recording the conversation and I would
46:32
Speaker 2: be publishing it, so I had made that clear, but
46:36
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that not only if I got to
46:38
Speaker 2: phone the Southern Hub number, and depending on where you
46:42
Speaker 2: are in the country, whichever hub you set, whichever hub
46:45
Speaker 2: you ring, and then I have to get a letter
46:48
Speaker 2: which was sent to me first class literally the next day,
46:52
Speaker 2: first class in the post with a response that I
46:57
Speaker 2: have to send in a free paid envelop Look, so
47:00
Speaker 2: that's two first class stamps that the NHS have used
47:05
Speaker 2: for me to send this back. This will be going
47:07
Speaker 2: back in the bin back, not in the bin, It'll
47:09
Speaker 2: be going in the post box as soon as extras over.
47:12
Speaker 2: But you have to do this for every single test
47:15
Speaker 2: that you're going to get. And my argument, and my
47:18
Speaker 2: question is at what costs? Because I reckon that call
47:22
Speaker 2: and these letters and the postage is probably cost around
47:26
Speaker 2: about ten pounds to opt out of every single of
47:30
Speaker 2: every single test. So this is a big deal and
47:33
Speaker 2: I'm fed up with being pinged. But I just want
47:35
Speaker 2: to highlight too nudge because the nudge theory is just
47:40
Speaker 2: as important because if you look at something like Future
47:43
Speaker 2: Health and a lot of people are calling us about
47:45
Speaker 2: future Health and they're saying we're getting these requests to
47:48
Speaker 2: fill in these questionnaires and also give blood tests. You
47:52
Speaker 2: can see that over two million people now are participating,
47:55
Speaker 2: and they say they go on to say that they're
47:57
Speaker 2: bringing everybody together. This is the whole thing about Future
48:01
Speaker 2: Health and if you do participate in it, if you
48:04
Speaker 2: do choose to participate. You will be given a ten
48:07
Speaker 2: pounds voucher to recognize your time and effort. And it's
48:12
Speaker 2: your decision. And this is what we're saying. We're trying
48:14
Speaker 2: to give you some information, an informed decision, informed choice.
48:20
Speaker 2: Do you want to carry on getting pinged? Do you
48:23
Speaker 2: want to get notifications from the NHS app? If you
48:27
Speaker 2: don't hashtag ping off, hashtag scrap the app? Please join us.
48:35
Speaker 3: Debbie, just very very briefly, because this is sort of important.
48:39
Speaker 3: I mean, many people would be asking at this point,
48:42
Speaker 3: why would they not want to take part in a
48:43
Speaker 3: screening program if this is about catching an illness early
48:48
Speaker 3: or catching identifying, not catching the illness, but identifying the
48:53
Speaker 3: illness early.
48:55
Speaker 2: So in my opinion, this is about surveillance. And I
48:58
Speaker 2: did not If I need the NHS, if I'm not
49:01
Speaker 2: very well, or if I'm worried, I will approach the NHS. Right,
49:05
Speaker 2: that's my choice. I don't need the NHS to send
49:09
Speaker 2: me tests to tell me that I might have cancer,
49:11
Speaker 2: or maybe they're going to send me a false positive.
49:14
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I feel fine. I'm looking in
49:17
Speaker 2: the white mirror and I'm talking and I'm laughing and
49:21
Speaker 2: I'm peeing and I'm pooing, and I'm eating, and I'm
49:23
Speaker 2: drinking and I'm breathing, and I look a good color.
49:26
Speaker 2: And I don't believe I need this test. And I
49:28
Speaker 2: think it's a data harvest, and I think it's a
49:31
Speaker 2: massive invasion into your health. I'm not ill, I'm well,
49:36
Speaker 2: I don't need to be tested. And I think it's
49:38
Speaker 2: all to do with tracking, tracing, surveying, genomic testing and DNA.
49:43
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion.
49:45
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Debbie, Thank you for that. Mark. Let's
49:49
Speaker 3: come back to you then, and what's going on in
49:51
Speaker 3: the United States climate related but biofuels in particular.
49:56
Speaker 7: Well, what you're looking at here as a news clip,
49:58
Speaker 7: I wrote it way back into thousand and six for
50:01
Speaker 7: AFP Good News on the Energy Front Biofuel Expo, which
50:05
Speaker 7: was San Antonio of showcase America's Alternative Fuels Future. And
50:10
Speaker 7: I was digging through my files and found this, and
50:12
Speaker 7: I got a little bit curious about how this fits
50:15
Speaker 7: into the current climate change regime that we seem to
50:19
Speaker 7: be living under, no matter who the president is. And
50:22
Speaker 7: moving on, just a little human interest note. I met
50:27
Speaker 7: the now late country star Raral Haggard. While I was there,
50:31
Speaker 7: he ran his RV with biofuels, and so did Willie Nelson.
50:36
Speaker 7: I attended a concert not long after that involving Willie Nelson,
50:40
Speaker 7: and he had Biowillie, which was the brand name of
50:44
Speaker 7: his own brand of biodiesel. And it was an interesting
50:48
Speaker 7: time at that time. It was all the rage. So
50:50
Speaker 7: I got to wondering, what's going on now? Well? This
50:53
Speaker 7: is a Climate Portal article. The link is provided there.
50:57
Speaker 7: This is from the Massachusetts Institute of TECHNOW January ninth,
51:02
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, so pretty recent, a little less than
51:05
Speaker 7: a year old. It says organic materials like corn, soybeans,
51:09
Speaker 7: or even wood can be turned into energy, either by
51:12
Speaker 7: refining them to produce liquid biofuels or by burning heat
51:16
Speaker 7: excuse me, or by burning them for heat, which can
51:19
Speaker 7: then be used to produce electricity. Is this a carbon
51:23
Speaker 7: neutral alternative to coal and gas power, it asks, one
51:27
Speaker 7: that doesn't add climate warming CO two to the atmosphere.
51:31
Speaker 7: Some scientists and policymakers think so, because plants recycle carbon.
51:36
Speaker 7: When burned, plants release carbon, but they also take up
51:40
Speaker 7: carbon from the air when they regrow, and the vegetation
51:45
Speaker 7: and the plants used for biodiesel are quick growing plant
51:48
Speaker 7: replant kind of plants. Moving on from there, this same
51:55
Speaker 7: MIT release says wood fired power plants also produce more
52:00
Speaker 7: CO two than coal plants per unit of electricity produced,
52:04
Speaker 7: so in the short term, CO two in the atmosphere
52:07
Speaker 7: can rise if bio energy replaces coal and other climate
52:11
Speaker 7: emissions are also tied to processing biofuels and bio energy
52:15
Speaker 7: emissions that don't come from the carbon in plants themselves.
52:18
Speaker 7: For all these reasons, how how biofuels are made and
52:22
Speaker 7: what crops they're made of is crucial to their ability
52:25
Speaker 7: to provide truly low carbon energy. Some studies have even
52:28
Speaker 7: concluded that in specific cases, biofuels may even lead to
52:32
Speaker 7: higher CO two emissions than the fossil fuels they replace.
52:37
Speaker 7: So it's a mixed bag here. It goes on to
52:39
Speaker 7: say to measure the emissions associated with bio energy, scientists
52:43
Speaker 7: must first calculate the emissions associated with their production, with
52:47
Speaker 7: their transport, and their processing. That includes emissions from the
52:51
Speaker 7: farm machine we used to harvest them and the gasoline
52:54
Speaker 7: burned to move them to a processing facility. In some cases,
52:57
Speaker 7: it can also include the fossil fuels used run the
53:00
Speaker 7: processing plant. But I would add mic that those same
53:04
Speaker 7: arguments can be made about electronic vehicles. Electric vehicles there's
53:08
Speaker 7: a lot of conventional energy used to make them that
53:12
Speaker 7: is so called threatening to the climate and has a
53:17
Speaker 7: lot of CO two emissions, So there's some kind of
53:20
Speaker 7: double thing going on there. This I won't get into details.
53:24
Speaker 7: This is an Indian study from twenty sixteen that also
53:28
Speaker 7: gives a nuanced view that biodiesel in some cases may
53:32
Speaker 7: be more me emit more CO two. However, if it's
53:38
Speaker 7: done right, it might actually have less so called global
53:42
Speaker 7: global greenhouse gas emissions. So there seems to be kind
53:51
Speaker 7: of a reconsideration of biodiesel and biofuels to a point here.
53:56
Speaker 7: But it's just interesting to see whether they'll actually make
54:01
Speaker 7: it back into the debate or not. Right now. At MIT,
54:04
Speaker 7: i'll just briefly note that they're having a program December
54:08
Speaker 7: fourth debriefing COP twenty nine Thursday, November fourteenth. Just recently,
54:13
Speaker 7: yesterday they had the EU Ambassador to the US talking
54:17
Speaker 7: about climate change, and then they also had the MIT
54:22
Speaker 7: Great Climate Policy Debate also yesterday. I didn't see anything
54:27
Speaker 7: there about biofuels yet, but we'll see if biofuels will
54:32
Speaker 7: become a part of our lexicon of fuels. One thing
54:37
Speaker 7: I would note in closing MIC is that biofuels are
54:40
Speaker 7: used to a limited degree at the gas pumps in
54:43
Speaker 7: the US for diesel fuel, and the ethanol is often
54:46
Speaker 7: added to gasoline in the US. And if it's so
54:50
Speaker 7: important to have less carbon emissions, if that's so important,
54:55
Speaker 7: it would be a lot less of a transition to
54:59
Speaker 7: the America economy and probably around the world if biofuels
55:03
Speaker 7: were used, because that would require a far less dramatic
55:07
Speaker 7: change in our fuel infrastructure compared to electric vehicles, a
55:11
Speaker 7: much easier transition if these things have to be done.
55:14
Speaker 7: So biofuels, perhaps, since they're used minimally, will make something
55:19
Speaker 7: of a comeback, and we'll see if that happens compared
55:22
Speaker 7: to electric vehicles, which would of course require a much
55:25
Speaker 7: more dramatic change in our infrastructure. So this is an
55:29
Speaker 7: evolving thing to keep an eye on, MIC. So we'll
55:31
Speaker 7: come back to you now.
55:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, you not concerned that if there was any
55:37
Speaker 3: kind of serious move towards biofuels, you're effectively having to
55:41
Speaker 3: grow the product for that which is replacing food production.
55:48
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know how much it would impact food production.
55:52
Speaker 7: That would depend on other land use policies, Rapid urbanization
55:57
Speaker 7: due to global cities that would eat up more farmland
56:00
Speaker 7: on the periphery of cities. There's a lot that we
56:03
Speaker 7: go into that. It is a concern. I just don't
56:07
Speaker 7: know what all the policies would be and exactly what
56:11
Speaker 7: impact that would have. That remains to be seen.
56:14
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Mark. Okay, let's move on then to
56:18
Speaker 3: the Don Sturgis Inquiry. So here it is. This is
56:22
Speaker 3: the independent inquiry into the Dawn's the circumstances of Don
56:26
Speaker 3: Sturge's death in Salisbury on the of July twenty eighteen.
56:30
Speaker 3: Of course, the allegation is that Don Sturgis passed away
56:33
Speaker 3: as a result of Navechok poisoning. Now we've mentioned this
56:36
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. There have been hearings going
56:38
Speaker 3: on which had been streamed onto YouTube with a ten
56:41
Speaker 3: minute delay and so on. But this week, this past week,
56:46
Speaker 3: we get into the Secret Squirrel hearings. So there's no
56:49
Speaker 3: streaming of this whatsoever, and very little mainstream media coverage
56:53
Speaker 3: or any media coverage there is. There has been some,
56:56
Speaker 3: as we'll see in a second, But if we look
56:58
Speaker 3: at who we've had speak this week or giving evidence
57:01
Speaker 3: this week, we've had dam Sally Davies, We've had Commander
57:05
Speaker 3: Dominic Murphy who was investigating the response to the scripbles.
57:10
Speaker 3: We have someone from Porton Down merely known as MK
57:15
Speaker 3: twenty six, and we have had a number of others
57:20
Speaker 3: and so on, as you can see on screen there
57:21
Speaker 3: at the moment. But anyway, the point here is Sally Davies, apparently,
57:26
Speaker 3: according to minstream press and the little coverage about what
57:29
Speaker 3: she said, has said that she experienced nightmares following the
57:32
Speaker 3: scripball poisoning originally because she was really worried about someone
57:38
Speaker 3: picking up discarded nerve agent after the scripballs were poisoned,
57:43
Speaker 3: she said, And so she was worried about this, and
57:47
Speaker 3: she was particularly worried because Russian agents had been involved.
57:51
Speaker 3: And she said that she was concerned about the disposal
57:53
Speaker 3: by foreign agents of any residual nerve agent and whether
57:57
Speaker 3: they had disposed of the residual nerve. So that's very
58:02
Speaker 3: surprising because we've shown the video a couple of times.
58:05
Speaker 3: We've seen the quotes multiple times of her explaining what
58:09
Speaker 3: to do in the event that you thought you had
58:11
Speaker 3: come into contact with novichalk, which was to take your
58:14
Speaker 3: clothes and put them in the washing machine, or to
58:17
Speaker 3: wipe down your stuff with baby wipes and so on.
58:20
Speaker 3: So she didn't seem to be expressing any concern at
58:23
Speaker 3: the time, but now it's all about nightmares. But then
58:27
Speaker 3: we had this individual MK twenty six who has apparently
58:31
Speaker 3: been was apparently working for DSTL at Porton Down for
58:36
Speaker 3: the twenty years, and he was saying that a sample
58:43
Speaker 3: the size of a third to the sixth of a
58:45
Speaker 3: grain of salt could have been fatal, a fatal human dose.
58:49
Speaker 3: And so he was asked if the bottle of novichocolate
58:53
Speaker 3: that killed Dawn Sturgis was the same one that was
58:58
Speaker 3: used in the scrip all point several months before, and
59:02
Speaker 3: he said, I think I've tried to express my uncertainty
59:06
Speaker 3: because it's unclear exactly what the circumstances were of finding
59:10
Speaker 3: that bottle and the assembly of that bottle, and so
59:13
Speaker 3: without that information, it's not possible to exclude that there
59:16
Speaker 3: were two bottles. But there seems to be a strange
59:20
Speaker 3: confusion here because when we look back at the media
59:24
Speaker 3: coverage at the time, Charlie Rowley, don Sturgess's boyfriend, was
59:28
Speaker 3: very very clear that the bottle was in a sealed box.
59:34
Speaker 3: The bottle that Don Sturgis came into contact with was
59:37
Speaker 3: in a sealed box, So how could that have been
59:39
Speaker 3: the bottle that was used. It's even a question that
59:42
Speaker 3: that was the bottle that was used to poison and
59:45
Speaker 3: inverted Commas the Scribbell's door. So this week has been
59:49
Speaker 3: very very interesting with the little bit of information that
59:52
Speaker 3: we've got out of the Don Sturgis inquiry so far
59:55
Speaker 3: as they hold these hearings in secret, but the holes
1:00:00
Speaker 3: and the story continue to be exposed. And well, again,
1:00:05
Speaker 3: if you aren't following this story or you'd like to
1:00:08
Speaker 3: see the background, to get onto the UK column website,
1:00:11
Speaker 3: search for the day of the scripp All and we
1:00:13
Speaker 3: will just leave you with this question. Where are the
1:00:16
Speaker 3: scripp also still needs to be asked because they aren't
1:00:19
Speaker 3: appearing at the inquiry into the death of Dawn Sturgis.
1:00:24
Speaker 3: There was apparently a statement read out, but who wrote that.
1:00:28
Speaker 3: We have no real idea, But anyway, we've got to
1:00:31
Speaker 3: leave that there for now. There'll be much more on
1:00:34
Speaker 3: this as more information comes out. But Debbie, let's just
1:00:37
Speaker 3: end with a couple of finalies.
1:00:41
Speaker 2: Oh yes, let's I just want to thank our wonderful viewers.
1:00:45
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's doing so much behind the scenes. If
1:00:47
Speaker 2: you don't think anything's happening, it really is behind the scenes.
1:00:50
Speaker 2: This is Hair mein one of our wonderful views. He's
1:00:53
Speaker 2: originally from the Netherlands, now lives in the UK. And
1:00:56
Speaker 2: she gets this little whiteboard, look, and she clips it
1:01:00
Speaker 2: the front of her shopping trolley and then she writes
1:01:02
Speaker 2: a message and she just changes it. You know, it
1:01:04
Speaker 2: could be you are being lied to. It could be
1:01:07
Speaker 2: watch UK column news at Friday or on Wednesday or
1:01:11
Speaker 2: Monday at one o'clock. Just such a great idea. Grab
1:01:14
Speaker 2: yourself as a whiteboard. Thank you, Hair mean, well done. Brilliant,
1:01:17
Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant. And you know what, if you're in charge
1:01:21
Speaker 2: of the country and you're in charge of that, you
1:01:24
Speaker 2: know that little button that everybody's talking about, what would
1:01:27
Speaker 2: you do let's have a look at Yes, Prime Minister,
1:01:33
Speaker 2: you don't.
1:01:33
Speaker 11: Need to worry.
1:01:35
Speaker 12: Why should the Russians annex the whole of Europe? They
1:01:38
Speaker 12: can't even control Afghanistan. Now if they try anything, it
1:01:42
Speaker 12: will be salami tactics, slice by slice, one small piece
1:01:49
Speaker 12: at a time. So will you press the button? If
1:01:52
Speaker 12: they invade West Berlin? It all depends on what scenario one.
1:02:00
Speaker 12: Riots in West Berlin, buildings in flames. East German fire
1:02:06
Speaker 12: brigade crosses the border to help with you press the button.
1:02:11
Speaker 12: The East German police come with them the button. Then
1:02:15
Speaker 12: some troops, more troops, just for riot control, they say,
1:02:20
Speaker 12: And then the East German troops are replaced by Russian troops.
1:02:23
Speaker 4: Button.
1:02:25
Speaker 12: Then the Russian troops don't go, They are invited to
1:02:29
Speaker 12: stay to support civilian administration. The civilian administration closes roads
1:02:34
Speaker 12: and temple Hoff Airport. Now you press the button. Scenario two,
1:02:39
Speaker 12: Russian army maneuvers take them accidentally on purpose across the
1:02:43
Speaker 12: West German frontier is at the last resort now right.
1:02:47
Speaker 12: Scenario three. Suppose the Russians have invaded and occupied West Germany, Belgium,
1:02:54
Speaker 12: Holland France. Suppose that tags and troops have reached the
1:02:57
Speaker 12: English channel. Suppose they are poised is that the last result?
1:03:02
Speaker 4: No?
1:03:02
Speaker 12: Why not? Well, we'd only fight a nuclear war to
1:03:05
Speaker 12: defend ourselves.
1:03:06
Speaker 9: How could we defend ourselves by committing supicide.
1:03:12
Speaker 2: I hope that's for everybody in a slightly lightened mood
1:03:15
Speaker 2: for the weekend.
1:03:17
Speaker 3: Thank you, Debbie, thank you. Let's we got to leave
1:03:20
Speaker 3: it there for today. I'm going to say thank you
1:03:22
Speaker 3: to Debbie and Mark for joining us today. We'll have
1:03:24
Speaker 3: much more to talk about on Extra in a couple
1:03:26
Speaker 3: of minutes if you're a UK called member. Otherwise, have
1:03:29
Speaker 3: a great weekend. We'll see it on Monday as usual.
1:03:32
Speaker 3: Bye bye.
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